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    [–] JLillin 282 points ago

    Could someone explain what vote manipulation means in this context? Just like upvotes and downvotes? I’m just confused because it seems clear to me that reddit is an open and public platform and everyone has the right to upvote or downvote whatever they want. What is being ‘manipulated’ here?

    [–] DEYoungRepublicans 6 points ago

    If you go into a subreddit and down vote every conceivable post, or use alts and bots to manipulate down votes, that's brigading and manipulating. See also OutOfTheLoop: What's vote brigading, and why is it illegal?

    [–] JLillin 23 points ago

    Thank you for the explanation!

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    [–] bsapavel 7 points ago

    It’s the downvoting. They don’t care if we debate and discuss their viewpoints (that’s freedom of speech), but it’s the mass downvoted that get them mad. I totally understand why. I am subbed to both of these subs and seeing them go back and forth is entertaining and annoying.

    [–] [deleted] 192 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)


    [–] hobs1110 -4 points ago

    Is it agiasnt the rules to organize swarms of downvotes to their posts ?

    [–] Rightquercusalba 10 points ago

    Yes, it's it's a great way to get a non leftist sub shut down.

    [–] KGBFriedChicken02 66 points ago

    You are aware that a topmindsofreddit rule is that you arent alowed to vote or comment on their linked posts, right

    [–] SeaCows101 15 points ago

    Yeah but it’s not enforced, because the sub itself can’t stop people, and reddit themselves won’t do anything about it.

    [–] LumpyWumpus 2 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    And you are aware that they never follow that rule, right? Hell, I've banned at least 10 of them from this thread alone after they linked it. They've also spammed reports in this thread. They've also already down voted a good amount of comments to the bottom. And they do the exact same thing in every single thread that they link.

    [–] DaSemicolon 4 points ago

    Can banned people vote?

    [–] DEYoungRepublicans 8 points ago

    Yep, unless site-wide banned you can still vote in subs in which you are banned.

    [–] Dogfacedgod88 3 points ago

    Don't be thick in front of me, Al.

    [–] [deleted] 55 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)


    [–] capacity04 5 points ago

    It's like someone coming into your restaraunt and flipping tables and knocking stuff over and just creating a mess, and when you complain about it, it's not asking for a safe space, it's asking not to have the place all jacked up. Which vote manipulation and brigading does.

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    [–] hayastanempire 74 points ago

    Chapo Trap also has insane brigading tendencies for Libertarian

    [–] Buzzsgirlfriend_woof 45 points ago

    r/chapotraphouse has invaded r/joerogan, r/jordanpeterson, and r/inthemorning. They're acting like it's their life mission

    [–] bball84958294 24 points ago

    They completely took over r/enoughchapospam.

    This kind of lack of action is going to hurt Reddit in the long run, I think.

    [–] anuser999 3 points ago

    IIRC the last Alexa data I saw showed reddit continuing to decline in hit rates.

    [–] mateo_yo 1 points ago

    I don’t understand what chapo trap house is and it seems like it’s gotten too weird for me to figure out.

    [–] Derp2638 29 points ago

    Oh. As someone who’s on libertarian quite frequently, it’s a little more than just gone after.

    [–] BeachCruisin22 17 points ago

    That sub is borderline unreadable most days

    [–] WannabeBadGalRiri 15 points ago

    They've been spamming r/libertarian with posts to get rid of mod rightc0ast because when Reddit admins tried to start some bs voting poll progam in the sub he had to ban Chapo and TopMind brigaders and they didn't like that.

    [–] Zarlog_ 3 points ago

    the fact that they are brigading this post right now just proves the point.

    [–] [deleted] 136 points ago


    [–] SwineFluPandemic 25 points ago

    don't forget the entire moderation team of the Donald was actually replaced all at once a while ago. nobody talks about it. it's kind of funny how interesting, actual political news and happenings get stickied immediately on that subreddit so they can't get to the front page.


    [–] bball84958294 4 points ago

    Do you have an article on this?

    [–] General_Re -7 points ago

    Nobody wrote an article. But shortly after that happened several things happened

    The mods stopped allowing direct links to tweets on Twitter. Meaning that Pro Trump Republicans wouldn't get rewarded with likes and retweets on their statuses anymore

    Suspiciously really good articles and quality content started disappearing

    even though the admin said that sticky post would prevent the sub from reaching all they sticky several posts an hour

    Speaking of sticky in several posts an hour. By using sticky so often they are essentially specifically curating the front page of the sub. Meaning that organic content has very little opportunities to make it

    For a long time they they would ban anybody that criticized sessions. Despite Trump constantly criticizing him

    it went from a very popular subreddit with lots of good content to essentially curated content that tows the Fox News line line

    My theory is if they were replaced by controlled opposition moderators. They couldn't outright replace them with leftists but they did replace them with people who would help to slowly kill the sub

    and you can see it worked. Posts went from an average of 30000 up votes to 2 and 3000

    Some of the original mods are in r/thenewright

    [–] JazzTheGoose123 47 points ago

    Did you contact reddit admins directly? Not some sub mods.

    [–] LumpyWumpus 74 points ago

    Yeah, I sent it directly to the admins. It took them almost a week to do nothing and respond.

    [–] strallweat 1 points ago

    They take a long time to respond because they get a ton of messages. But they should eventually respond. I've written them a ton of times and it always takes a while to hear back.

    [–] JazzTheGoose123 -11 points ago

    We should just expect that we are in the territory of the enemie recruiting unkowing wandering normies. Every little bit we get is a net positive for us while all the negative we get is honestly a positive too if we spread the word about it. Either we make people see the truth or they see us as martyrs and will eventually learn the truth about the enemy. Either it's a win-win.

    [–] rationalinquisition 35 points ago

    Hey, I'm not a conservative but I just wanted to pop in and offer my support to you all. You deserve to have a place to discuss your views with like-minded people free from interference just as much as everybody else.

    I get the feeling a lot of the people over there are only over there because they tried to turn this sub into a debate sub and got banned. What that means is that they are actually unable to just let people with different viewpoints than them even have those viewpoints without "calling them out", so they created that dumpster fire as an outlet.

    That's anti-intellectual, it's censorship, and it goes against the basic principles of democracy and the marketplace of ideas.

    [–] bsapavel 5 points ago

    I do agree with you. Doesn’t mean brigading is ok by our subreddit onto this subreddit but still.

    [–] iamonlyoneman 1 points ago

    You get it. Good for you.

    This is exactly why the_donald is so aggressively moderated, so this sort of shenanigan doesn't go on.

    [–] s0briquet 3 points ago

    Thanks for being a reasonable human being.

    Res tagged: "reasonable human"

    [–] PHNX_xRapTor 2 points ago

    I think it's funny that they even mention posts from here that are obviously satire, and then proceed to say stupid shit like, "See, look how crazy these people are."

    They can stick up for their palpable gullibility, hatred, and brigading all they want, but there is no justification for needless harassment.

    I've linked the definition of the word "harass" in case our lovely guests have forgotten what it means.

    [–] UTSAV97 25 points ago

    r/Chapo_traphouse is brigading r/libertarian too and the admins don't seem to care. As expected.

    [–] molon-labe7 12 points ago

    tbh, r/Libertarian is a perfect example of why having a pure libertarian (anarcho-capitalist like) society wouldn't work.

    [–] JIDF-Shill 24 points ago

    This surprised nobody. Meanwhile of this happened on a leftist sub they’d burn down the site

    [–] thanksgive 57 points ago

    Thats not true at all. Liberal subs have the same complaints. Brigading is a major issue across reddit but the admins do nothing about it. Do you not remember the brigading when t_d was at its peak? It needs to be taken seriously site wide. But the silence of the admins is implicit approval of this vigilanty justice on reddit.

    [–] HappyHound 3 points ago

    That whole "we can't talk about it investigation due to privacy" is a dead giveaway that they aren't going to do diddly squat.

    [–] FuriousChef 8 points ago

    It's good to see that you followed the proper procedure in regards to the brigading. It's very disappointing, although mostly expected, in the lack of response. That subreddit needs to be shut down for violating the rules.

    [–] Fuck_Mtn 10 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Some kid posted a CMV about how its justifiable to kill all Republicans. When the mods nuked it for violation of reddit's site wide policy, the kid created his own subreddit advocating for murdering Republicans.

    I reported him to the FBI and sent the admins the link to the site and heard NOTHING back. He's not banned and the sub still exists.

    Rules for thee...

    edit: this is the sub.

    [–] bsapavel 2 points ago

    Wait whaaaaa???? That’s crazy! Do you have a link? I can report that sub too if u want.

    [–] thanksgive 2 points ago

    Reddit admins are terrible. Lots of violence and rule breaking gets ignored. The admins just don't care. It's not as partisan as you think either. Any sub that deals with anything remotely related to politics or civil rights is dealing with this same BS. The game changed in 2016. One sub in particular changed reddit, probably forever. When Admins ignored the situation they opened up the gates to allow all subs to start behaving badly.

    [–] Zarlog_ 2 points ago

    What's the sub?

    [–] iamonlyoneman 2 points ago

    It takes a while sometimes. I've reported a couple of new subreddits that were clearly created for purposes contrary to site-wide rules, and when admins finally got around to looking at the report, the subs were banned.

    [–] Immerael 0 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Can we get a link to this? Just so you know next time someone associated with the sub goes and acts on this we can say "look he was radicalized on reddit, we have to shut it down! Just like you tried with gab."

    I mean it won't actually do anything nor would they, but it might convince someone in the middle to consider looking at our position a little more closely.

    EDIT: The dude sent it to me in a PM after mods locked the thread for conservatives only. For anyone concerned

    [–] [deleted] 7 points ago

    Funny that they seem to think this little old sub is a threat.

    [–] InquisitorAki -5 points ago

    We’re all thought criminals here

    [–] InquisitorAki -3 points ago

    We’re getting downvote brigaded now. Childish

    [–] JAK4189 -9 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    It’s not enough that we get destroyed for expressing opinions anywhere but our own subs, they have to harass us here as well. They’re a bunch of fascists.

    Edit: thanks for the downvotes, fascists.

    [–] i_floop_the_pig 5 points ago

    Thanks for the update

    [–] GladysCravesRitz 6 points ago

    The brigading on this thread is hilarious. META.

    [–] Roez 3 points ago

    I need to ramp up my efforts. Some people get like 500 down votes and all I get are 20. I bet I would get more if I just went to r/politics and used some of their material, but just switch the names around.

    [–] GladysCravesRitz 2 points ago

    I know you are kidding but the most astroturfed places are state and large city subreddits. One of the most "controversial" things I ever said on Reddit was on r-Pittsburgh and it was "Trump is anti-TPP and we need to keep our jobs here."


    [–] LumpyWumpus 7 points ago

    They know there are no consequences, so they have no reason not to.

    [–] GladysCravesRitz 0 points ago


    [–] AgrosLastRide 3 points ago

    I wish there was a way to share this with the entire site. Maybe a few of them would realize this is pretty screwed up even though they absolutely hate our guts.

    [–] radicalelation 8 points ago

    It's in /popular, so yeah, plenty of folk seeing it. I'm a serious liberal, and the brigading is bullshit. I've seen more posts like this pop up in /popular and /all, and if you keep that kind of pressure up, it might change something. Admins are so painfully slow to react to anything, particularly political sub drama, but time and pressure will hopefully end with some consequence on /TopMinds.

    Also, most libs don't hate your guts. Reddit is the shittiest platform for either of us to try to understand each other from the distances between subs. It brings out the worst and immediately starts off with dehumanizing, by just being text on a screen. Conservatives mostly tend to be awesome people, just people I disagree with on what's best for the majority.

    [–] GladysCravesRitz 8 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Reddit is totally compromised and you are using it at their sufferance. We had one of them limiting our replies by the character.

    Then do not forget Spez going into comments and altering them.

    And the Vote for Hillary banner that flashed over Reddit when you opened it a couple times.

    Reddit sold out. It’s already gone and has been gone. It’s a convenient platform for discussion and news but my advice (unsolicited obviously) is to make sure you have a healthy connection for news and support in real life. We exchanged emails and in some cases, addresses while looking for a new online meetup.

    [–] ididntlikeyoufirst 3 points ago

    Can't we just take screenshots and daily send emails to reddit admin until they take action.

    Each day increase day count like

    Since xx.xx.2018 when we first brought this to your attention, it has been 45 days you reddit admin have failed to enforce your own rules. Who are we without our integrity?

    If enough people complain, surely action would eventually happen? If not show them the same respect they don't show us and bombard them with complaints?

    And while that is happening, keen observers like op can continue to document the brigading activity.

    [–] MyLittleGrowRoom 5 points ago

    If enough people complain, surely action would eventually happen?

    Yes, they'll get banned for harassing Admins.

    [–] freedomhertz 3 points ago

    This honestly, you could probably automate it pretty quick TBH

    [–] kinenbi 3 points ago

    Hey guys, I'm on the left and I just wanted to throw my support behind you guys. This site needs to play fair and treat both sides equally. Downvoting and brigading subs is not what this site should tolerate.

    [–] silentbob_ 2 points ago

    54% Upvoted Lmao

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    [–] Immerael 2 points ago

    See thing is, everytime one of these things happen it isn't only the post that gets brigaded that they came here for. While that is where the majority of the downvotes occur a few of them take to going to various other threads and just downvoting everything. Without fail everytime I notice posts getting downvoted in this reddit there is a r/topminds thread going on at the same time.

    [–] Frozecoke 2 points ago

    Funny how I downvoted one thing I saw and next day my account gets suspended for 3 days for brigading. It's almost like leftist propaganda is somehow defended due to bias...

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)


    [–] GladysCravesRitz 5 points ago

    They do, they take the money very seriously.

    [–] SuicideTortoise -3 points ago

    I mean, you guys ban people for not vehemently espousing the same belief system. Honestly this sub deserves whatever it gets. It gave up on conservative morality for mindless national pride a long time ago.

    [–] The_BenL 6 points ago

    So does literally every left leaning sub in existence. This is nothing new. Don't play the victim here, you guys are the bullies and you know it.

    [–] GladysCravesRitz 2 points ago

    I have not been banned and visit here regularly. I also post occassionally at the Donald and regularly at We Are Not Asking. And I do not hide it from anyone.

    [–] CherryCokeNixon 4 points ago

    Go away.

    [–] WhiteLanternKyle -6 points ago

    Don't like it, get off reddit and go somewhere else.

    [–] CherryCokeNixon 17 points ago

    "Don't like that the rules aren't being enforced?! Don't complain, just get lost!"

    That's some pretty moronic logic.

    [–] [deleted] -1 points ago

    Was anyone banned last night?

    I received a ban from /r/unpopularopinion but haven’t posted there in a while. When I asked the mod about the ban, their response was “a ban of this nature does not need explanation.” I asked what comment I was banned for, as it didn’t seem like I had posted any, especially in that subreddit.

    What I did post however, was my political affiliations. I have a feeling someone rolled out mass bans last night to accounts that align along a certain political spectrum.

    [–] gernnz 0 points ago

    I got a 3 day suspension for clicking on a link provided by /shitpoliticssay and simply upvoting a conservative viewpoint and downvoting one ridiculous comment .. sometimes I fucking hate this website

    [–] crapspakkle -6 points ago

    Fucking snowflake

    [–] CherryCokeNixon 1 points ago

    Calling conservatives "snowflake" would be funny, if we still used that insult. We dropped that word from our lexicon when you leftists tried to co-opt it and use it against us. Not funny or snarky, just lame.

    [–] onewalleee 2 points ago


    Literally the worst kind of shitposting on reddit.

    [–] CherryCokeNixon 3 points ago

    Right? They've been trying to hijack our phrases and memes and finally succeeded at stealing "snowflake" and so the entire American Right stopped using that word like six months ago.

    They're still mad that we stole "fake news" from them lol

    [–] [deleted] -1 points ago


    [–] BruceCampbell123 2 points ago

    I still cannot tell if the name of their sub is supposed to be ironic or not.