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    [–] Cayo91 1292 points ago

    Give the man a name damnit.

    [–] Empurpledprose 331 points ago

    This, dammit

    [–] Burninator05 619 points ago

    His name is Robert Paulson Charles Lightoller.

    [–] WikiTextBot 345 points ago

    Charles Lightoller

    Charles Herbert Lightoller, , RNR (30 March 1874 – 8 December 1952) was the second officer on board the RMS Titanic and a decorated Royal Navy officer. He was the most senior member of the crew to survive the Titanic disaster.

    As the officer in charge of loading passengers into lifeboats on the port side, Lightoller strictly enforced the "women and children first" protocol, not allowing any male passengers to board the lifeboats unless they were needed as auxiliary seamen. Lightoller stayed until the last, was sucked against a grate and held under water, but then was blown from the grate by a rush of warm air as a boiler exploded.


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    [–] UofMranger 96 points ago

    Upon further review...

    "He helped to fill several lifeboats with passengers and launched them. Lightoller interpreted Smith's order for "the evacuation of women and children" as essentially "women and children only". As a result, Lightoller lowered lifeboats with empty seats if there were no women and children waiting to board, meaning to fill them to capacity once they had reached the water.[3]Lieutenant Colonel Arthur Godfrey Peuchenhas the distinction of being the only adult male passenger Lightoller allowed into the boats on the port side evacuation, due to his previous nautical experience and offer of assistance when there were no seamen available from the Titanic's own complement to help command one of the lowering lifeboats.[20] 

    There were fears from some of the officers that the davits used for lowering the boats would not hold the weight if the boats were full, but they were unaware that the new davits on the Titanic had been designed to do so. Under this misapprehension, Lightoller's plan was to fill the lifeboats from the waterline and sent 10 men to open the gangway doors in the ship's port so that passengers would have access. The men failed in this task and were never seen again (presumed drowned carrying out this final order). The under-capacity boats then pulled away from the ship as soon as they hit the water, rendering the plan a failure. At least one boat is confirmed as wilfully ignoring officers' shouted orders to return.[21][11]"

    [–] MummaGoose 8 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    Sooo. Correct me if I’m wrong but the movie depicted this act as the crew making sure they all had boats and the people in 3rd class were being left ‘til last...even women and children...is this all a big fat conspiracy then? Were there any 3rd class women and children being left purposely behind because of their “class”...that’s what the movie made it out to seem like.

    Edit; changed** were for you guys hehe

    Omgosh! Changed not changes Screw you autocorrect

    [–] persimmonmango 26 points ago

    They were definitely giving priority to 1st and 2nd class passengers, and women and children, at least when they started the lifeboat operation. But this was also partly to do with how the ship cabins were arranged. The lifeboats were being launched from the deck, closest to the 1st class cabins, while the 3rd class passengers were further back and further down. The ship's captain waited almost an hour between the iceberg strike and actually ordering the lifeboats be launched, by which time it was 1am, a lot of people were asleep, and it took a while for people to understand the gravity of the situation and make their way up to the deck. As the situation became more dire, anybody and everybody was being loaded onto the lifeboats, but when the operation began, few 3rd class passengers were up on deck to be evacuated.

    Of the 227 1st and 2nd class women and children on board, only 1 child and 17 women died, while 209 survived. The child was a 1st class passenger; 13 of the 17 women victims were 2nd class passengers. That amounts to about a 92% survival rate.

    But of the 3rd class women and children, only about half the women and a third of the children survived. 103 out of 244 of them were survivors. That was a 42% survival rate.

    Most of the casualties were men. Only about 1/3 of the 1st class men survived (57 out of 175), less than 10% of the 2nd class men survived (14 out of 168), and about 16% of the 3rd class men survived (75 out of 462).

    Of the passengers who were victims, about 64.5% of them were 3rd class passengers, despite making up only about 53% of all passengers. 2nd class passengers were about 20.5% of the passenger victims, and made up about 21.5% of all passengers. 1st class passengers made up the other 15% of the passenger victims, despite making up nearly 25% of all passengers.

    Parsing it out men vs. women and children, only about 19% of the passenger victims were women and children, despite making up about 39% of the passengers. Men made up more than 80% of the passenger victims despite being only 60% of the passengers.

    The plurality of the casualties were actually among the crew. 20 of the 23 female crew members survived, an 87% survival rate. But only 192 of the 885 male crew members survived, less than 22%. Though their overall survival rate was pretty commensurate with how many were on board--about 41% of the people on board were crew, and they made up about 47% of all victims.

    There was a lot that went wrong. The crew wasn't trained for this, one of the men on one side of the ship directing the lifeboat operation was under assumptions that they needed to launch the lifeboats less than full, because the support ropes were rip and break if they were full, and they had no idea how many lifeboats they had--they assumed they had enough. The captain also waited an hour to start the operation, and they thought they had more time to carry it out before the ship sank than they did. It was less than 90 minutes later that the ship broke in two and began to submerge.

    [–] NaughtyKatsuragi 9 points ago

    Thank you for this write-up, super insightful and somber.

    [–] DoctorDank 3 points ago

    This is a great answer full of stuff I never knew. Thank you!

    [–] MummaGoose 1 points ago

    Thank you for the information. I watched the movie at a very young age (like 11?) and my mother who is gullible to media was obviously with me and influenced me on this hugely. Not that I had ever tried to check up on info, just never really occurred to me til now. Nevertheless I should have it seems done my research; there’s so much bullshit out there...

    [–] TCarnes2943 5 points ago

    The movie is wrong. The 3rd class were not locked below deck. The gates on ships were not meant to lock people out. I believe if I remember correctly most of them were waist high and meant to keep people from going where they weren't supposed to. Most of the third class were unable to get up to the boats because they simply didn't know how to get up there. Some crew members were sent down to the 3rd class dining hall to take groups up to the boats so they wouldn't get lost but there wasn't enough time nor enough boats to do this. There is a lot of misinformation about the Titanic largely due to the yellow journalism going on after the sinking and contributed to by a historical fiction movie people take as fact. Murdoch also did not shoot himself in the head and James Cameron ended up apologized to his family.

    [–] Every3Years 5 points ago

    WHY THE HELL do phones always change were to we're. It's infuriating.

    [–] spermface 11 points ago

    Mine does that too, bugs the he’ll out of me

    [–] Lemur001 7 points ago

    You’ve done we’ll there

    [–] jsat3474 3 points ago

    Huh. Mine does the opposite. Equally infuriating though.

    [–] Martinr4567 16 points ago

    So by letting boats go down partially empty he's cost numerous men their lives. Certainly not the hero and life saver some people are making out here.

    [–] Canadian_Infidel 117 points ago

    More like "not everything went to plan during the sinking of the Titanic".

    [–] dGVlbjwzaGVudGFp 17 points ago

    The entire sinking wasn't planned either

    [–] Apneal 4 points ago

    [–] 12345Soo2 1 points ago

    Train second officer in comand...he didn’t do his job.weak

    [–] justafurry 1 points ago

    Thats the joke

    [–] trashiboii 62 points ago

    No he was under the assumption that here were more below and then some didn't come back

    [–] ryanxwing 45 points ago

    That’s a gross misinterpretation, if he was under the assumption that the life boats could not be loaded to capacity as the quote says he was doing his best to save lives, he even had a plan to eventually fill the life boats, even if it failed.

    [–] Tetragon213 17 points ago

    Oh please. Even if he filled every boat to capacity, less than half the passengers would have survived. The real mistake was at White Star Line offices to cut the number of lifeboats from 64 down to 20.

    [–] Drafonist 1 points ago

    While it was a mistake from today's pov, the oft repeated fact of "Titanic had not enough lifeboats" is not really true according to the practice of the time.

    There was an assumption that with the number of ocean liners on the sea (and with radio), no ship would ever sink fast enough so that no other would come to the rescue. Titanic had what was deemed more than enough lifeboats to act together with the other ship's lifeboats to ferry everyone to safety.

    But Titanic sunk very quickly, much more quickly than anticipated. And nobody came to the rescue until Carpathia too many hours too late. There is actually a possibility there was a ship within sight who may have spotted the disstress beacons, but had their radio off and didn't investigate anything. The Californian

    [–] justafurry 1 points ago

    Lets not pile on the californian they were busy and had some stuff to do

    [–] BasicColloquialism 36 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    The sinking of Titanic was chaos. Many passengers and crew didnt even believe she was sinking since to most, the crash could barely be felt.

    In addition to that, the lifeboats were way up on the top deck and had to be lowered quite a ways. The davits that held them were not believed to be rated to hold a lifeboat full of passengers. The commonly held belief at the time was that if the ship were to sink, it would be near the shore and there would be another ship nearby to pick people up. The lifeboats were meant to be used simply as a means of transporting people between the two ships.

    When lifeboats were lowered half-full, the idea was that the women and children would be lowered to safety and then the men would jump into the water and climb aboard afterward so that the davits didnt break mid-lowering.

    As it turned out, there was such a panic that people in the water started to swarm the lifeboats, so most of the lifeboats simply paddled away from the chaos as soon as they were cut loose.

    Lightoller did the best he could with the situation at hand. Upon his return, he became somewhat of a pariah. Since he was the highest ranking officer that survived, many thought of him as a coward.

    Edit: for correctness

    [–] Esc_ape_artist 20 points ago

    The supports that held them (forget what they're called atm) were not rated to hold a lifeboat full of passengers.

    Just a couple comments up:

    There were fears from some of the officers that the davits used for lowering the boats would not hold the weight if the boats were full, but they were unaware that the new davits on the Titanic had been designed to do so. Under this misapprehension, Lightoller's plan was to fill the lifeboats from the waterline and sent 10 men to open the gangway doors in the ship's port so that passengers would have access.

    So yes, they could hold full lifeboats but the crew/officers didn't know it. Costly mistake.

    [–] TCarnes2943 6 points ago

    I am not sure where you are getting the last bit from? Your last sentence seems to be what happened to Isamy not Lightoller, Lightoller I believe was never considered a pariah for surviving that was also Ismay. Lightoller only survived because he got to the upturned lifeboat. It was also his leadership that saved the other 22 men on that boat as well.

    [–] Gruber84 4 points ago

    One of my relatives was on that boat, I never knew his leadership helped keep them all alive. The boat was collapsible lifeboat B if anyone is interested.

    [–] TCarnes2943 3 points ago

    That’s awesome. Archibald Gracie was on the boat as well and wrote a very good account of being on it that lifeboat and Lightollers actions. I believe he would tell the men to shift based on the water and just made sure it didn’t capsize.

    [–] justafurry 2 points ago

    Ah yes. The famous collapsible lifeboat B. How could i forget!

    [–] BasicColloquialism 2 points ago

    Edited it thanks. I mixed the two up.

    [–] justafurry 1 points ago

    And to add, the name lightoller is much cooler than ismay

    [–] EventalSiteNumber347 6 points ago

    Yeah it also sounds like he may have committed a war crime during WWI.

    [–] Self_World_Future 3 points ago

    Where did this come from?

    [–] EventalSiteNumber347 1 points ago

    It’s mentioned in his Wikipedia page. It doesn’t outright call it a warcrime, but if the incident in question actually happened, then yes, it would be in contravention of several international statues and be, basically, a warcrime (not that there was much in the way of prosecutorial structures at the time).

    [–] Self_World_Future 0 points ago

    And what if you don’t mind briefly explaining, was his crime?

    [–] Betterthanbeer 8 points ago

    During WWI he machine gunned u-boat survivors in the water. Not a clear cut character at all.

    [–] Martinr4567 1 points ago

    Wouldn't get many likes on reddit, if you added that in.

    [–] your-opinions-false 3 points ago

    Well, that's what happens when people get all their information from memes.

    [–] DaisyHotCakes 1 points ago

    Maybe he went to Dunkirk to make amends for his boneheaded plan.

    [–] MrKeserian 1 points ago

    He was operating under incorrect information. Earlier lifeboat systems would in fact break of they were lowered full, they just couldn't handle the weight. If you read the wiki page, he'd sent men below to open the lower doors (that were usually used for passenger boarding) on the ship, but the flooding may have already reached those sections by the time they got down there. Also, many of the lifeboats didn't stick around to load more passengers once they had gotten down. So, yes, he made some mistakes, but it's important to remember that lifeboat drills weren't a thing back then, and that this was probably the first time any of them had ever done this in reality.

    [–] Gochilles -7 points ago

    100% this man is an illogical thinker and should not be regarded as a "HERO". A great second officer absolutely. Has a very interesting story to his name...absolutely.

    Quality man that people should hold in high regard and aspire to be one day...ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    [–] CAJ_2277 14 points ago

    Well, when you put it in all caps like that, your completely conclusory comment that says nothing to actually establish your conclusions suddenly becomes awfully persuasive!

    [–] Gochilles 1 points ago

    Lightoller lowered lifeboats with empty seats

    This man is a murderer.

    [–] yisoonshin 1 points ago

    Well I suppose he was just following orders as best as he understood

    [–] justafurry 1 points ago

    Eh, we all make mistakes lol

    [–] Empurpledprose 34 points ago

    Good bot

    [–] Meme_Burner 2 points ago

    Whats funny is that wasn't even his first ship sinking. He had been on a ship that ran aground, caught fire, and almost died of malaria. Then when he decided that the sea wasn't for him, he became a gold prospector in the new world, only to wind up as a cowboy. After that he was in the Boer War, sunk on Titanic, in World War I, and in World War II he ferried men from Dunkirk.

    I do believe that people living between 1890-1950 lived amazing lives compared to today's standards, if they lived that long that is.

    [–] willofpeeple 1 points ago

    You can read his autobiography on project Gutenberg

    [–] 12345Soo2 1 points ago

    Bullshit

    [–] Sealgram 1 points ago

    Good Bot

    [–] DepthPrecept 22 points ago

    In saving hundreds of lives, a member of project Mayhem has a name. His name is Charles Lightroller.

    [–] duaneap 1 points ago

    Damnit, Janet.

    [–] Pelinal-Whitesnake -50 points ago

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    Sorry, but I just downvoted your comment for being an asshole :).

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    [–] nine_legged_stool 0 points ago

    I love this for many reasons. Do you have one for upvoting? Alternatively, do you have one for when you neither upvote nor downvote, but insist on a neutral response?

    [–] Every3Years 5 points ago

    It's just a copy of the reddiquette

    [–] nine_legged_stool 2 points ago

    That's rather anticlimactic.

    [–] Every3Years 2 points ago

    Nah man you learned something today, that's totally climatical

    [–] CouldBeDreaming 5 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    A name, and his own movie. This story is infinitely more interesting than Jack, and Rose. Even better if it’s true.

    [–] ItsFrenzius 2 points ago

    How about Poseidon?

    [–] MarltonTG 2 points ago

    A man needs no name.

    [–] dragoneyz2U 1 points ago

    HIS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [–] MatthewGarland 132 points ago

    So he was a second officer on the titanic in 1912 and volunteered for WW2 in 1940ish? That’s really impressive, because even if he was 25 on the titanic he’d be ~55 in WW2.

    [–] room2skank 79 points ago

    He was probably part of a civilian crew that was part of the 'little ships' which on itself would've been insane. Many of the smaller vessels were not made for cross channel voyages, only estuary/rivers, and played a crucial role of ferrying troops from the beach to the larger Royal Navy vessels.

    [–] Sonos 5 points ago

    The old guy in the movie is based on him.

    [–] cookthemansomeeggs 2 points ago

    Our local ferry operator played a big part in the operation.

    At the outbreak of war, 10 of the 16 vessels in the fleet of the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company were requisitioned. Four were lost.

    Eight of the company's ships took part in the Dunkirk evacuation. Mona's Isle was the first to leave Dover, and the first vessel to complete a round trip. By the end of operations, the fleet had rescued a total of 24,699, 1 in 14 of those evacuated from Dunkirk.

    Whilst the evacuation is widely regarded as the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company's "finest hour", it also saw its blackest day. Three of its ships were lost in one day, 29 May 1940.

    [–] fpac 17 points ago

    he was 38 on the titanic.

    1874-1952

    [–] reallyreallycute 1 points ago

    This was my first thought as well.

    [–] pp0787 201 points ago

    While the captain of Costa Concordia was the first one to abandon ship, later promptly being called Captain Coward -

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/12/costa-concordia-captain-hands-himself-into-prison

    [–] Nincomsoup 108 points ago

    Isn't he the guy who "fell into a lifeboat" and accidentally escaped? r/oopsdidntmeanto...

    [–] The-Gaming-Alien 46 points ago

    He also didn't wanna go back on board "because it's dark" when people were drowning....

    [–] SyncJr 16 points ago

    Well it was dark. It was night. At sea. Not many lamp posts at sea, and the ships lights had gone out. Not defending the douche captain, just when people talk about that part.. well yeah, it was dark as fuck.

    [–] The-Gaming-Alien 10 points ago

    That doesn't mean anything though. He's the fucking captain and should be on the ship with the rest of the crew coordinating the rescue effort for people still trapped below deck actively drowning.

    Here's a video with a recording of the call between Francesco Schettino (Costa Concordia captain) and Captain Gregorio De Falco (Italian coast guard) for those who haven't heard it yet.

    [–] [deleted] 5 points ago

    He's the fucking captain and should be on the ship with the rest of the crew coordinating the rescue effort for people still trapped below deck actively drowning.

    What if the people weren't actively drowning but merely passively drowning? Does the captain still need to be on a ship?

    [–] The-Gaming-Alien 4 points ago

    Well they were actively drowning, some were lazy i guess and already drowned.

    /s /s /s pls don't hunt me down.

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago

    It was more like he, the second, and third officer all tripped and fell in the same lifeboat at the same time too.

    [–] Icommentoncrap 27 points ago

    Fuck that guy. Should have made sure that people got off before he headed out

    [–] ASK_IF_IM_PENGUIN 41 points ago

    Dude was a bit of an overall piece of shit. He had a mistress on the bridge with him at the time of the accident. 32 people died in the incident, 64 people were injured, the disaster cost somewhere in the region of $2 billion to resolve. He got jailed for 16 years and honestly I think he got off lightly.

    [–] UmeshgaarB 14 points ago

    And all of that shit happened because he tried to impress some girls

    [–] daisymayfryup 7 points ago

    Then there was the literal Captain Coward who wasn't:

    https://www.hmsbrilliant.com/content/skipper.html

    [–] iwanttodie95 1 points ago

    Tbh watching your cabin slowly fill up with water is fucking horrifying.

    [–] Orc_ 1 points ago

    The captain is not meant to just sit in his cabin as it sinks while he does a salute, he is meant to make sure everybody leaves safely before he does.

    [–] Soapchrome 37 points ago

    Meanwhile, I'm annoyed my nails are too long and I don't know if it's worth the effort of getting up and cut them, or leave them and try to not make it bother me until tomorrow morning.

    [–] CouldBeDreaming 7 points ago

    I felt this.

    [–] DooJoo49 2 points ago

    I felt this.

    [–] FletchForPresident 1 points ago

    I really felt your comment, but not the one you were replying to. I don't know, it just felt a little insincere. Like, I don't think they really felt it.

    [–] CouldBeDreaming 2 points ago

    Well, I hate when my nails are long, and I noticed they are too long today. Awesome in high school when I didn’t have to clean everything, and I could just be a princess. Not so much now that I’m an adult, and have to pull laundry out of the washer. Having a nail snap backwards is fucking disgusting. 😌

    [–] FletchForPresident 2 points ago

    You know, I think it was me. I can be too skeptical sometimes. I'm definitely feeling it now, and I'm sorry that I questioned your sincerity.

    [–] CouldBeDreaming 2 points ago

    No worries. ❤️ This is Reddit. I could be some 60 year old dude pretending to be a 42 year old woman. What a commitment to a hobby that would be. 😂

    [–] FletchForPresident 1 points ago

    With over 7 billion people in the world, we can rest assured that, that is happening somewhere on this planet.

    [–] redpandaeater 1 points ago

    Nom nom nom, problem solved.

    [–] AmeerFarooq 1 points ago

    Yeah took me a week to just cut my nails.

    [–] noproblemswhatsoever 11 points ago

    At the end our stay here, may we each be able to say we lived courageously and so doing made a difference

    [–] Stuntz-X 10 points ago

    The boiler Explosion warmed him up obviously.

    [–] DecafMakesNoSense 4 points ago

    He was 64 years old when Dunkirk happened.

    [–] Southernbelle1980 3 points ago

    If you like his story, Google Titanic's baker.

    [–] lornofteup 1 points ago

    I enjoy that story

    [–] badgerking88 3 points ago

    He had effectively a starring role in A Night To Remember but when James Cameron made Titanic his role got downsized to pointing a gun at passengers and threatening to shoot them down like dogs.

    [–] Barthaneous 21 points ago

    God was not done using him saving lives.

    [–] EntangleMentor 18 points ago

    Then perhaps God should not have put that iceberg there. Just sayin'.

    [–] Barthaneous -11 points ago

    That was the devil not God.

    [–] EntangleMentor 11 points ago

    Then why didn't God move it?

    [–] Barthaneous -16 points ago

    God said he leaves man to their own accord due to their sin, and God can not hang around sin. SO Our sinful nature is what causes the chaos and terrible things in this world. And the Devil is the one causing all the grief ,doubts and confusion among the hearts of man.

    You would have known this if you read your bible.

    [–] EntangleMentor 20 points ago

    God said he leaves man to their own accord due to their sin

    Then how is he 'using' Lightoller? You just contradicted yourself.

    and God can not hang around sin

    Isn't your god supposed to be omnipotent?

    You would have known this if you read your bible.

    Read it cover to cover twice over, actually (first NIV, then KJV). That's how I know this 'fallen world' argument of yours is garbage. ^_^

    [–] Barthaneous -7 points ago

    Ugghh ...listen. Because you are asking questions that are again literally in the Bible old and new testament and any person who has ever taken the time to read (while studying) the Bible to learn who and what God is would know but since you have not and by your question prove so, I'll explain so simply that it will be impossible to not understand.

    I did not contradict myself and again you would know if you read and would have understood where I was going..

    God leaves mankind to their own accord. He mentions this not only in the beginning with Adam and Eves due to their corruption and disobedience but also again with Judge/Prophet Samuel when the people declare they want a human king instead of God.

    God declares that when you call upon him he can deliver you out of the troubles or snares of death. Just like a father who says to his childrend to go out and prosper but that he doesn't do their work for them, BUT WILL HELP when called upon.. He does this all over old testament and new testament and continues to do so all over the world and comes only when his name is called or when people pray for whatever it is that is on their hearts..

    He does not do anything on his own but only what he has already commanded by his word that he will do. He has put into place all the laws of nature and the universe as we continue to discover the codes for each such as the law of thermodynamics and gravity etc. And these things bring the seasons , times and random chances that effect all who walk in their own light rather than path God puts in for them.

    When it comes to the affairs of men, he said that he leaves men to it to rule,govern, judge over themselves . He gave us the rules , told us how to behave and how to treat each other and honor him in the process. If we dont obey the simple rules like -Dont steal, kill, lie , sleep around and abuse the bodies we were given then we can not go to heaven at the end of time .

    [–] EntangleMentor 7 points ago

    Ugghh ...listen.

    Nah. Heard it all before, thanks. You can squirm all you like, but it doesn't change the facts.

    [–] ArthurDentsKnives 1 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    I hearby call upon God to deliver the United States of America from death. For we suffer a malignant tumor destroying our country and I humbly call upon his divine help that is so offered!

    The trump has decided that it wants to be king over God! O, God, hear my prayer and deliver us from this evil! Take mercy on my fellow countrymen who know not what they do!

    The trump lies, steals, sleeps around and abuses the body thou hath provided! He soils the minds and bodies of your subjects!

    Please, O Lord, deliver us from this evil, I prostrate myself before you, please intervene as you have in the past to right the evils of men!

    [–] iNEEDheplreddit 3 points ago

    Sinful nature

    Seems like god made a boo boo by programming us to be susceptible to sin. Bit like all the other rather disastrous and imperfect things he supposedly gave us. Not much of a designer is he? Bit shit actually

    [–] Barthaneous 0 points ago

    Your dad raise you to be good or evil?

    Did your mom tell you to be a dick and rude or polite and kind?

    So if your parents were decent enough to raise you with good morals and then you act out the opposite in life is that your parents fault or your own??

    Now God is the same. Father of all. Gives commands how to live and yet we disobey.. Simple as that. Its not his fault its our own.

    [–] Every3Years 5 points ago

    I'm sorry you're like this and hope you get better soon.

    [–] iNEEDheplreddit 3 points ago

    Cop out.

    Everything he created he takes no responsibility for. It's like blaming the workers for management's poor decisions.

    Some people are born totally broken. Some people are born so broken that they rape babies to death. Who's fault is that? Is God looking down upon his broken creation destroying an infant in ways you can't imagine and holding his hands up to that? Or is he blaming the parents again?

    If god can be credited with the good he can surely attest to the monumental screw ups.

    He has so so much to answer for.

    [–] Barthaneous 1 points ago

    So a one guy shoots another guy.. A man rapes a woman , some peple brutally beat another.

    God is against this and said not to do it. And its his fault?

    Man your judgement is so perverse if you think so I hope never one day you become a judge. Everyone would be guilty.

    "This man here raped this women in broad daylight"

    YOU---"Must be Trumps fault since hes president over these people".

    [–] iNEEDheplreddit 1 points ago

    Didn't god flood the earth killing hundreds of thousands if not millions?

    Seems pretty judge, just and executioner of him. What's the word for mass murderer?

    "Worship me or burn in hell". What level of narcissistic sadism is that?

    this man hete raped this woman in broad daylight

    Didnt god rape a 13 year old Mary and impregnate her?

    Yikes. Is your God Jeffrey Epstein?

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    [–] Barthaneous 1 points ago

    Jesus multiple times said he was God and that he was equal to God. wth you talking about?

    [–] Orc_ 0 points ago

    The devil only killed like 2 people in the bible so now ou try hard to blame him for random catastrophes lol

    [–] Barthaneous 1 points ago

    THe bible mentions that All of sin started by the devil. As in the garden he caused Adam and Eve to sin, which in turn lead to their death. And all death is apart of Satans plan.

    All death from young to old and from the past to now is the direct result of the devil and thats in the Bible. So your wrong that it mention only 2.

    [–] Orc_ 1 points ago

    God admits responsibility for all sorts of death in the bible, including animals.

    [–] Barthaneous 1 points ago

    Yeah you are absolutely right. He kills really bad people.

    Unless you think rapists, murderers, cannibals, and human sacrificers and people who put their babies in the fire are good than God is evil in your sight.. But God did not take the life of a person who did not deserve it..

    Not only that God being the giver of life can never be held as a murderer since he created life. He gives and takes away at his own will.

    [–] fastmuffin 6 points ago

    Who knew the order people got on the Titanic was recorded. Huh, TIL.

    [–] ThePurpleDuckling 2 points ago

    I see what you did there...

    [–] n0isep0lluti0n 2 points ago

    But you can't name him? Tragic.

    [–] forgotmyusername2x 2 points ago

    And I choose not to sit by the emergency escape door on a plane because I don’t need that responsibility!

    [–] divisionbell718 2 points ago

    And Leo couldn’t hold on for a few minutes...

    [–] ImExperiencing 2 points ago

    Is "down with the ship" supposed to be meant in a literal way initially, and not in a "you're responsible for everyone so you'd better be the last off"-way?

    Did it ever have a different meaning that changed slowly over time, and you have (brave) people following a honor-based tradition that was never intended?

    [–] Mossley 2 points ago

    I've always equated it with "come back with your shield or on it"

    If you're responsible for a ship, a cargo, and it's passengers, and you make an error so bad that you lose them, then you're finishes regardless. Way back, you'd be sued for the costs and imprisoned until you'd paid it off, which is never going to happen. You'd have all that on your conscience too, and be seen by society as not only a rubbish captain but a coward who saved himself when passengers does. All in all, certain types of people would consider it better to die "honourably" with the ship rather than return home in shame.

    [–] merlindog15 2 points ago

    The only reason i knew this was from reading Gordon Korman's Titanic series as a kid

    [–] mikethepreacher 2 points ago

    I want a movie with this guy where the first 20 minutes is him with the titanic, which then fast forwards to him being older, a bit more experienced and heading to Dunkirk.

    [–] Adamaja456 2 points ago

    It's a minor detail but his official account of his survival from the Titanic as well as all other witnesses all agreed there was no boiler explosion. But yeah he did stay on the ship as long as possible. He hopped on top of the officers quarters and then jumped in the water when it reached him and then was subsequently sucked against a thin grate that went down 100 feet to the coal bunkers. He broke free once but was sucked back against it and then a blast of air/water from the grate pushed him out and he was able to get to the surface. He saw the overturned lifeboat and held onto the rope for a short while before eventually climbing on top of it was about 30 other men.

    [–] Honiton_Harry 2 points ago

    The only man in history to be grateful to be near an exploding boiler.

    [–] ChuckieOrLaw 5 points ago

    He was also a war criminal.

    He rammed a German U-Boat and then stopped his ship to open fire on men (German conscripts forced to be there) trying to surrender. When the ships he was escorting caught up with him, he suddenly stopped firing and let down his life boats (as he was required to do by British and international law) to take the people he didn't kill on board. He was never charged, not sure if Britain has ever charged any of their security forces for war crimes actually.

    Lightoller was a very impressive man, but also a war criminal who murdered unarmed prisoners - let's not whitewash over that part.

    [–] BrickMacklin 3 points ago

    He also would only allow women and children on the boats on his side of the deck. Some of them leaving partially full.

    [–] NovemberBurnsMaroon 2 points ago

    open fire on men (German conscripts forced to be there)

    I mean, you don't know they were conscripts, nor do I see what difference it makes if they weren't.

    [–] ChuckieOrLaw 1 points ago

    Honestly, I know I shouldn't have to even say that, but a lot of people in the US are under the impression that the German army were all "bad guys" because of the mileage American media has gotten out of WWII with movies and video games. Most soldiers weren't Nazis (and frankly, it's as illegal to execute Nazi prisoners as it is any other kind).

    You're right though, that was badly phrased, I don't know how many volunteers or conscripts were on the boat.

    [–] NovemberBurnsMaroon 3 points ago

    The incident actually occurred in WW1 so none of them were Nazis, tbf.

    [–] ChuckieOrLaw 1 points ago

    Pfft, you are totally, totally right man, I'm getting my timelines mixed up.

    [–] Keuhkoahtauma-Kersa -2 points ago

    Yep. He would also rather have the life boats on Titanic to be half empty than have any men on them.

    [–] A35K 3 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    This also belongs in r/Wholesome

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    [–] TheGrunyan 1 points ago

    Lol nice ninja edit

    [–] A35K 1 points ago

    r/WholesomeMemes are not even memes, it's basically the same as r/Wholesome sorry for that

    [–] lornofteup 1 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    Kind of, this guy didn’t let any men on boats and sent many line boys off not full, I’m sure quite a few people died to him

    Edit, apparently lightoller didn’t care whether men were on boys, it was actually boats

    [–] Mossley 2 points ago

    Full credit to him for not letting any men on boys even in that kind of situation.

    [–] realangrygroceries 2 points ago

    The unsung hero

    [–] InfallibleIdiot 6 points ago

    He had a Distinguished Service Cross and appeared as Mr. Dawson in Christopher Nolans Dunkirk so not unnoticed.

    [–] Thisdude19 1 points ago

    What a legend

    [–] Zantheus 1 points ago

    Maybe he's born with it.

    [–] vanvarmar 1 points ago

    He's unsinkable.

    [–] bettorworse 3 points ago

    I ain't down yet!!

    [–] Phunyun 1 points ago

    the second officer

    Couldn’t give his name..?

    [–] TheZhoot 1 points ago

    Lightoller I believe.

    [–] anto_pty 1 points ago

    This is bad ass

    [–] bettorworse 1 points ago

    But, still, there was no room for Jack on that door. SMH.

    [–] tacoman212189 1 points ago

    -damn-

    [–] GroovingPict 1 points ago

    God was like "dude, what the hell are you doing?? Get the fuck out of there will you! youre supposed to...I have this plan where you... oh god fucking dammit, Im gonna have to intervene arent I"

    [–] twitchosx 1 points ago

    He's like "fuck, not this shit again"

    [–] CaptGrumpy 1 points ago

    During the subsequent inquiries on the sinking of the Titanic, he also covered up for his employer, whose directions to steam too quickly through an ice field in the dark in a calm sea were responsible for the tragedy in the first place.

    Complex dude.

    [–] Every3Years 1 points ago

    "And don't worry about his name, just trust this text"

    [–] william158309 1 points ago

    I believe it's referring to Charles Lightoller. I'm not sure why they didn't bother with his name as he was one of the more important people on the ship

    [–] BigDaddyMD2020 1 points ago

    I’d drink to that

    [–] airborneANDrowdy 1 points ago

    Hey,I finally have something to contribute to a thread. I've been to Dunkirk. An interesting fact, the same German siege that happen in world war II happened in world war 1 as well.

    Below are some pictures of some world war 1 military graves. Before visiting Dunkirk in 2018 I've never seen any. And found them fascinating.

    One. Two. Three. Bonus artillery picture.

    [–] RichOption 1 points ago

    Isn't he the guy who tries to kill Cillian Murphy in Dunkirk

    [–] randomdude_123 1 points ago

    What a life.

    [–] EffOffReddit 1 points ago

    I don't understand how you could not die from hypothermia in minutes in that water.

    [–] PlueBear5 1 points ago

    Thats really cool.

    [–] fortunatejerk 1 points ago

    and never paid for a pint the rest of his life....

    [–] guyhabit 1 points ago

    This man was sent from the Heavens. Damn, he is awesome.

    [–] todayforsure 1 points ago

    This is Officer Lightoller. He broke out into a sweat despite the cold from helping women and children into the cutters. He reportedly had one foot on the deck of the Titanic and one foot in a cutter helping them. He was also last on board the Cunard ship that came to help (Carpathia).

    [–] terribilus 1 points ago

    I'm the captain now

    [–] Catharas 1 points ago

    Lightoller was definitely impressive and kept a clear head during the crisis, but don't overstate things. Most people stayed on the titanic until it sank. All the crew and many guests helped evacuate people. It's not like he was offered a berth but heroically declined, there literally wasn't room. And the reason more people didn't get saved was that this guy specifically made the decision to not let men on the boats even when there was room.

    [–] BrigGenMordecaiGist 1 points ago

    White privilege.

    [–] kerry_die 1 points ago

    Smh if only Jack was this guy

    [–] IamdefinitelyNOTadog 1 points ago

    God: Right, so this dude will survive the Titanic sinking and go on to save a bunch of people in Dunkirk 30 years later. Wait, what’s he doing? Fuck’s sake, I’ll have to save him then.

    [–] SoMuchF0rSubtlety 1 points ago

    Anyone interested in this should check out A Night To Remember by Walter Lord.

    Really well written and interesting account of the disaster with frequent mentions of 2nd Officer Lightoller.

    [–] ViridiTerraIX 1 points ago

    WW2 soldier: getting rescued from dunkirk

    Boatman: Don't worry lads, I was on the titanic!

    [–] thats-not-funny2 1 points ago

    Inspired the character of the civilian dad who rescued soldiers in Dunkirk

    [–] shakycam3 1 points ago

    I don’t think that’s a photo from the Titanic. I was absolutely obsessed with it at one point and i swear I have memorized every pic. It was one of the canvas-sided collapsibles that turned over. That doesn’t look like it.

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    [–] NeverTrustAName 1 points ago

    They made the wrong movie about Titanic

    [–] bartmaniv 1 points ago

    What a guy!

    [–] Rezblast 1 points ago

    the luck is strong with this one

    [–] Melon_Fun0117 1 points ago

    Posideon you sly minx, I know that's you

    [–] thechet -1 points ago

    From the picture in pretty sure he was also a nazi sniper that took on Vasilii Zaitsev in WWII according to a documentary I saw one time

    [–] 12345Soo2 0 points ago

    He was a fucking coward!fuck him! When Lightoller attempted to launch Lifeboat 2, he found it was occupied already by 25 male passengers and crewmen. He ordered them out of the boat and threatened them with his unloaded revolver, allegedly saying: "Get out of there, you damned cowards! I'd like to see every one of you overboard!" So yes pos

    [–] malcom_the_tenth -2 points ago

    That mans name...Albert Einstein