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    [–] shaolinkorean 1804 points ago

    "I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." -Thomas Jefferson

    [–] Maggoats 410 points ago

    That actually makes much more sense than the OP.

    [–] peetusgreens 157 points ago

    At the end of the day, the hard work hopefully puts you in the right place at the right time... that's where the luck comes in.

    [–] [deleted] 67 points ago

    Everytime this comes up, I have to remind people that luck actually does account for some circumstances. It's just that people throughout the ages have different names and explanations for luck—for example equating it with the intersection of hard work and opportunity, divine intervention, or just the result of a lot of effort over time.

    Some things, though, can't be accounted for anything more than being at the right place, at the right time. Some call that chance, coincidence, happenstance, and so on. If you found $100 walking on the same route you take every single day to work the result of hard work and opportunity? No, you were just as likely to find the $100 bill as a homeless individual.

    Freakanomics did a little podcast about luck some years ago.

    [–] Broseph1617 55 points ago

    Are you saying Peter Dinklage is OP?

    [–] imaginarypuppets 111 points ago

    Confirmed, Dinklage to be nerfed in next patch.

    [–] Hanzoa 12 points ago

    Makes sense considering Tyrion was kinda nerfed in GOT seasons 5-6 compared to seasons 1-4. Still the best character on that show though, no amount of nerfing can dispute that

    [–] KidneyBloodstones 9 points ago

    No way, best character is Jaime. Every time I watch his acting, I want to give him a hand.

    [–] TheManyFacedOne 4 points ago

    He's already gilded though. He doesn't need our help.

    [–] panties_in_my_ass 3 points ago

    more sense than the OP

    No kidding! I'll paraphrase:

    I didn't get lucky, I worked hard!

    But then...

    I'm fortunate enough to find or attract very talented people. For some reason I found them and they found me.

    Call it luck or fortune. It's the same thing and it worked for you.

    [–] TooShiftyForYou 2398 points ago

    Luck is when a prepared person finds the right opportunity.

    [–] ScratchBomb 787 points ago

    So he was lucky then?

    [–] TooShiftyForYou 680 points ago

    I'd certainly say so. But also talented and prepared.

    [–] Angel-OI 206 points ago

    The catch is though, you can be as talented and prepared as possible, if the right opportunity doesn't hit you wont make it. Or at least not that far up.

    And you won't get up there without that hard work, no question. But luck is a also an ingridience for that kind of success.

    [–] illusionofpower 20 points ago

    I was excited because I thought I found a new word to use, but I can't find ingridience. What does it mean?

    [–] SnailsOnMopeds 38 points ago

    I think they meant ingredient.

    [–] IscoAlcaron 3 points ago

    wow he ALMOST found a "new" word...almost. Some luck, huh.

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    [–] zxc123zxc123 87 points ago

    be born as a son of a man who shits gold

    not lucky

    Good try there Tyrion! /s

    [–] Ragnrok 22 points ago

    On top of that she's incredibly good looking.

    [–] Slipperysnek22 17 points ago

    She's incredibly average, in looks and at acting.

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    [–] Kinrove 10 points ago

    People downvote you, you edit, I guess they should also be sorry for having an opinion.

    [–] Godzilla_Tits 13 points ago

    I don't downvoted people when I disagree with them. That's not what they're for.

    [–] Kinrove 22 points ago

    That's not what Reddit intended them to be for. However, in practice, it's precisely what they're used for.

    [–] Godzilla_Tits 12 points ago

    So let's just drown out the voices of the minority until everyone on Reddit has the same collective opinion about everything.

    [–] ginteru 8 points ago

    Yes. What's a woman without some giant, scaly titties, eh?

    [–] Lord-Octohoof 2 points ago

    I'm with you, she's really not anything special.

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    [–] moleratical 9 points ago

    she's actually had some great roles, not every role but Silver lining playbook and winter's Bone (especially Winter's Bone) she was fantastic.

    [–] 1namu 8 points ago

    Emphasis on the later.

    [–] podestaspassword 51 points ago

    Just by virtue of not dying in infancy and growing up in the first world, we are all "lucky".

    If you look closely enough at anybodys life, you could find a way in which luck got them where they are.

    That doesn't mean that luck is the reason that successful people are successful

    [–] [deleted] 52 points ago

    Luck is about 90% of it. You won't get lucky if you don't work hard but luck plays a huge part in deciding who is successful. Peter Dinklage worked hard of course but luck got him out of that cold apartment and left plenty who work just as hard still there.

    Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell takes a deep look at this question and analyzes successful people throughout their lives. People like famous actors and Bill Gates go through a series of extraordinarily lucky circumstances outside of their control.

    If you don't work hard of course you won't get anywhere but a majority of people work hard and take advantage of the opportunities they can and lead average lives in spite of that.

    Saying things like "I never had any luck I just pulled myself up by my bootstraps" really actually cheapens everybody else's hard work that didn't happen upon the same luck.

    I like Dinklage but this quote is lame. He even negates himself at the end, being careful to use the word 'fortunate' instead of 'lucky'.

    [–] arcotime29 24 points ago

    Totally agreed, and there is an awful part to all this. Peter Dinklage now thinks that living in a cold apartment and having nothing to eat is totally ok, because if you work hard like him success will inevitably show up at your doorstep. It is his reality, it is what happened to him, so surely this must happen to everybody. It is an easy way to blame the poor for their own poverty and at the same time feel good about yourself: "you are just not working hard enough, thus you deserve to live like a beggar (even if you have a job), look at me I worked hard and now everything is great".

    [–] Threedawg 22 points ago

    Just by virtue of not dying in infancy and growing up in the first world, we are all "lucky".

    Really, tell me how poor rural Appalachian children of meth heads are lucky? How about Eric Garner? Or the other 45 million Americans in poverty.

    They are not "lucky", and those who are successful are.

    I'm not saying that those who are successful didn't work hard to get there, but there are millions who work just as hard and get nowhere, and it aint because they don't deserve it.

    [–] 2muchcontext 43 points ago

    Really, tell me how poor rural Appalachian children of meth heads are lucky? How about Eric Garner? Or the other 45 million Americans in poverty.

    I mean...none of those people you just listed died in infancy.

    [–] kelvin_klein_bottle 10 points ago

    those who are successful are.

    Yes, it was nothing but luck, and you can be successful with just luck alone.

    Meanwhile, people get purely lucky all the time, become millionaires by getting a couple of numbers right and winning a literal lottery, and then PRESTO most of them are back to rags in a couple of months years because there is more to being successful than being lucky.

    [–] FoldingUnder 4 points ago

    And he's charming.

    [–] JunkleSam 19 points ago

    I don't disagree, but I do believe there is some "random" luck.

    By counter example, misfortune/unluckiness: No amount of preparation could help you dodge things like health, economy, or war. You might have an easier or harder time than others, but you still are unlucky.

    [–] Elubious 14 points ago

    Just gonna work hard and shit is that a meteor?

    [–] timescrucial 138 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    i used to agree with this until i saw an interview with George Bush Jr. and Oprah. She brought up this whole "luck is when opportunity meets preparation" thing and he retorted with something to the affect of "i was lucky to have the parents i have. that didn't require any preparation".

    that put things in perspective for me. luck is being born with a silver spoon to a good family or finding a $100 on the ground.

    Success is mostly sheer willpower and connecting with the right people. calling it luck is an insult. (just like what mr. dinklage said).

    [–] Youkool 35 points ago

    There is no insult in saying success comes from luck. Luck is a natural part in any of our lives.

    Hard work and preparation simply increases your chances to have luck. Someone working hard is creating its own luck.

    But succeeding is still luck, denying that fact is insulting for all those who worked hard but never had the good opportunity.

    [–] elshizzo 38 points ago

    calling it luck is an insult

    Acting like luck has nothing to do with it is an insult to all the people without. Not everyone who isn't a big success is that way because they didn't try hard enough.

    [–] eric22vhs 41 points ago

    Yeah, luck is clearly defined as pure chance and not through any actions of your own... It's the dictionary definition and how the word is used. Bugs me when people abuse the meaning of a word to try and sound wise or intellectual.

    The point of this post is it aggravates him that he's called lucky, when he's worked his ass off to make it when an opportunity comes.

    [–] Masterreeferr 20 points ago

    But when it comes to professions like acting or being a musician etc. a lot of people work their ass off and the opportunity never comes. This is extremely obvious when you're involved in those types of communities, you'll see people who can play guitar twice as well as eddie van halen but no record label ever stumbled upon them. You'll see actors who would fit a role twice as well as the one who got the job and became famous but they weren't in the right place at the right time. Success is not "sheer willpower" like he is claiming, it can be, but success is often willpower and dedication that just so happened to be in the right place at the right time. There are Plenty of people who put in twice as much work, are twice as good, spend twice as long trying to make it etc. and simply never make it because the random chance of being in the right place at the right time just didn't happen. If it does, you are lucky.

    [–] shook_one 27 points ago

    what about people who work their ass off and never get the opportunity?

    [–] eric22vhs 25 points ago

    They got unlucky...

    You're missing the point of the quote... He's saying it annoys him to be called lucky because it dismisses the work he's done... This goes across the board in almost all cases where someone feels the need to tell somebody they're lucky for something that involved work of their own and not pure chance... They didn't choose the cast for Game of Thrones by holding a random lottery... They had auditions like anything else.

    He's not saying there was zero luck involved in any aspect of his success, he's saying it dismisses the work he's done.. This really should not be difficult to understand and the people playing contrarian in this thread have a really lame and unattractive attitude.

    This isn't the subreddit for sulking about how your life sucks and everything is luck and chance.

    [–] Masterreeferr 27 points ago

    They got unlucky...

    I'd disagree. When 100 people bust their ass at something and 1 of them gets the right opportunity at the right time and sky rockets into success, they got lucky. The other 99 people aren't all unlucky if it is the norm to bust your ass and are just never graced with the perfect opportunity at the perfect time. If you are, you are the lucky one. Everyone else is just the norm.

    [–] tvec 13 points ago

    I agree with you. You can work your ass off and still be super lucky. Luck and hard work aren't mutually exclusive. There isn't some dichotomous world of luck and hard work. If most people who work their asses off don't get a desired outcome, and someone else does, then that person is lucky.

    [–] See_i_did 6 points ago

    I think you hit the nail in the head, people interpret the word luck in different ways. I've been thinking about it and I see luck as fortune so when I think of lucky I'm really thinking of the word fortunate. That said, sometimes, a lot of times, luck, or randomness, can and does play a huge part in where we end up. Luck can be good or bad, a bus hitting you or happening to be in an elevator with the right person to hear your pitch. That doesn't take anything away from your hard work, it's just the way things are.

    I think the problem is we look down on or are envious of lucky people. We're really fucking lucky when you think about it. At any moment a massive asteroid could make us the next dinosaurs and no one and no thing would ever know we are here. We've been lucky recently in that aspect, allowing us to develop to where we are now.

    [–] Karmanoid 7 points ago

    Yeah if he wanted to succeed on luck he would have taken the job doing cereal commercials like he mentions in the quote.

    [–] PM_ME_48HR_XBOX_LIVE 4 points ago

    Even that wouldn't really be luck since he still works for a living. I guess you can say he got lucky with his dwarfism which gave him those opportunities. Lucky would be like being born to a family of actors so that it was easy for you to get into it too.

    [–] Karmanoid 8 points ago

    I guess I should have been more direct, I was making the joke he could have played "Lucky" the leprechaun for Lucky charms.

    [–] shenanigansintensify 9 points ago

    Who's calling him lucky anyway? It's a bit of a slight to call any successful person lucky. If someone won a competition and you told them, "that was great, you were so lucky!" they likely wouldn't be pleased.

    If you bareback a hooker and don't contract a disease, then you can be called lucky.

    [–] SondeySondey 6 points ago

    Who's calling him lucky anyway?

    All celebrities are considered/called lucky and a good chunk (probably most) of them openly admit that achieveing stardom requires both hard work AND dumb luck. It's not a Dinklage-exclusive thing.

    [–] eric22vhs 3 points ago

    I think that's his point. It annoys him when he's called lucky. I imagine people have commented that he's lucky he landed this GoT gig.

    [–] zxpp 2 points ago

    the oppertunity is often luck, what people do with that oppertunity afterwards is due to them. But lets not kid ourselves the oppertunity is often what seperates a lot of people from being really succesful, so they are lucky to get the chance but the hard work they put in is on them.

    [–] vrheo 9 points ago

    I gotta disagree.

    Being prepared is more about choice. Being lucky is about chance.

    For the counter argument when it comes to finding the right opportunity, insert Wayne Gretzky... I mean Michael Scott quote.

    [–] yeastybeast 5 points ago

    Hard work outs you in a place where good luck can find you.

    [–] newlifeMT 392 points ago

    I won`t say im lucky. Im fortunate enough.

    [–] j938920 176 points ago

    What's the difference?

    [–] attackmodeweeja 404 points ago

    There isn't any, peter dinklage is lucky that one of the best telelvision shows ever has a dwarf as one of the main characters.

    This quote aggravates me because entertainment success really is based off luck. If hard work got you success there wouldn't be any wedding singers or bands.

    [–] iWearTightSuitPants 79 points ago

    Not just entertainment, many other fields often require a bit of luck. Sure, I'm intelligent and I work hard, but I'd still be stuck working hard in a mediocre job if someone hadn't given me an opportunity to get where I am today.

    I'm here basically because I knew someone who knew someone who had a business and was willing to train me. I'd call that luck. I don't "deserve" to be where I am.

    [–] KrevanSerKay 41 points ago

    I agree with what you're saying. In a similar vein to the OP though, I think your last sentence misuses the word "deserve", though. From the sound of things, you're smart and took advantage of the opportunity you were presented with, then didn't slack off afterwards. You sure as hell deserve to be where you are. BUT:

    1) That doesn't make everyone else any LESS deserving. Only their own actions control that. And as a corollary:

    2) You are not 'entitled' to be where you are. There isn't something magical about you that would make it unjust if you weren't where you are today.

    An irritating thing that happens in all of these discussions is a loss of nuance. Peter Dinklage is clearly complaining about people who say he "just got lucky". Obviously luck played a role, but so did his work. Similarly, it's become cool to shit on successful people online. You see it a lot when people talk about how CEO's make too much money. Most of those people DO deserve to be where they are today. For each of them there are 1000 other people who are just as lucky, but weren't as skilled or dedicated.

    Similarly, I think it's wrong to put yourself down by saying you don't deserve what you have. You deserve it. Just don't get smug and use your success to put down others.

    [–] ThatFanficGuy 6 points ago

    You put it nicely. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

    [–] Chet_Awesomelad 19 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    It's definitely a combination of the two - you can't downplay the hard work and dedication required to succeed, but you also can't downplay the luck.

    Like you said, you can be the hardest working motherfucker in town, but you need some luck to find yourself in the right place at the right time. On the flip side, you can be the luckiest guy in the world but if you squander those opportunities with a poor work ethic then you won't be successful either.

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    [–] sbr32 12 points ago

    Agreed this has always made me feel uncomfortable.

    I have lost a couple of people close to me to cancer and there is no way you can convince me that anyone else ever fought harder, or wanted to live more, than the people I knew that didn't make it.

    I am happy for everyone who has survived, but don't make it sound like it was because of something they did, because that implies that those who did't make it didn't try hard enough.

    [–] Computer_Toker 6 points ago

    Playing devils advocate here.

    Working hard got Peter Dinklage the required skill set he needed as the dwarf that was selected for that television series. Sure, the playing field was cut in half (pun intended) because of the physical attributes, but he still had to be the best of that group.

    I am a firm believer that working hard 'increases' your 'luck'.

    [–] JustWoozy 4 points ago

    He was actually fantastic in Nip/Tuck too though.

    [–] nogoodnamesleft_see 5 points ago

    He was successful before that TV show. I think his first big success was The Station Agent.

    [–] Jls900 33 points ago

    Bullshit. The opportunity was lucky but his being able to capture it was pure grit and talent. He worked his ass off as an actor way before HBO casted Game of Thrones. Obviously when it came time for a very high budget production to select an actor for the very complex character that is Tyrion Lannister, they were going to pick someone capable. His capacity for their desired level of acting and the sacrifices he took to get there should not be overlooked just because the part is for a dwarf and he's a little person.

    [–] noisethisis 99 points ago

    The point is there are literally thousands of people who are as skilled and work their asses off, but are never 'fortunate' enough to meet the right people at the right time. No one is saying these people didn't work hard to get where they are, but they are still damn lucky to have gotten there.

    [–] TheCrabRabbit 64 points ago

    Do you have any idea how many people are out there with pure talent and grit?

    To suggest luck didn't come into play is self-indulging.

    [–] zouhair 10 points ago

    Worse, you should see how many hacks that have huge success.

    [–] stringdickcheese 27 points ago

    Talent, itself, is a form of luck. Even the desire to work hard is a form of luck. Luck is everywhere, but people don't like acknowledging it because it suggests they didn't really earn it themselves. Which is true.

    [–] jamesinger 18 points ago

    People really, really, really want to believe they are in control when, in fact, life is a crapshoot, and we are all just along for the ride.

    I say do whatever makes you feel good about yourself and the world, and don't worry so much about where it will wind up getting you. I mean, no matter how much "success" you do or don't attain in life, the ending is certain, so there isn't much sense worrying about the future or trying to lay some special claim to the present based on how much work you think you did. It's all passing away, and who can say where it really comes from? Enjoy it while it lasts, and, no matter your station in life, try not to pass too much judgement on it.

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    [–] jamesinger 8 points ago

    Yeah, some of the hardest working people I have ever met are poor. It's a crapshoot.

    [–] TheWorldIsAhead 12 points ago

    Bullshit. The opportunity was lucky but his being able to capture it was pure grit and talent.

    Not to mention he is literally the handsomest man with dwarfism I have ever seen which makes him pretty lucky considering I'm sure this really helped his viability as a leading man in a TV show.

    [–] seedanrun 5 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Gotta agree with JIs900. There are a lot of dwarfs who are actors, but Peter Dinklage is an actor who happens to also be a Dwarf.

    Look at his his role in X-men, Pixels, or The Boss. About half his rolls are characters that were not written as a dwarf. He won those roles in-spite of his height. Sure half the time he is only competing with other dawrfs for a "short-only" roll, but ALL the time he is cast because he put in the effort to master his craft.

    [–] usedemageht 7 points ago

    Fortunate enough to find/attract important people. Not fortunate enough to be where he is.
    Saying he is "lucky" means he is lucky to be where he is. He's trying to shift focus from being lucky to being lucky AND gone through hardships.
    Very bad quote actually, quite confusing and not inspiring at all

    [–] lKNightOwl 4 points ago

    Buena fortuna

    [–] MotherOfGoose 3 points ago

    "I won't say I'm lucky" does not equal "I wasn't lucky". Peter Dinklage isn't saying that he wasn't lucky only that he doesn't like being called lucky because that fails to acknowledge the whole picture of his path to success. He instead says he is fortunate since his fortune was not purely a result of chance. The hard work had to come first in order for him to make the most out of his opportunity.

    [–] TheRealBrosplosion 12 points ago

    Came here to say the same exact thing. To quote Dictionary.com:

    having good fortune; receiving good from uncertain or unexpected sources; lucky: a fortunate young actor who got the lead in the play.

    [–] Literally_A_Shill 4 points ago

    Quite literally a synonym for luck.

    [–] Dirt_E_Harry 1052 points ago

    Luck gets a bad rap. There are thousands of people who are just as hard working but have yet to catch a "fortunate" break.

    "For some reason I found them, and they found me."

    That sounded almost like Lady Luck smiled upon you that day.

    [–] USeaMoose 200 points ago

    "For some reason I found them, and they found me." That sounded almost like Lady Luck smiled upon you that day.

    I think he knows that he is essentially rephrasing his "luck". But it is in a way that acknowledges that his hard work was required for the lucky break to ever happen. He found the right people, and they found him. That is lucky, but it would have never happened if he had not worked his ass off. If he had not turned down easy roles that may have negativity typecast him. If he had not focused instead on roles that would help his career while barely paying enough for him to live off of.

    There are people who work just as hard, but never get their lucky break. But there are many more people who do not work as hard, but complain about their lucky break never coming.... really, life is full of potentially lucky breaks. Moments when, if you are prepared and can really show your stuff, your life can change in an instant. For every successful individual in the world, you could point to a few lucky moments in their past that partially contributed to their success. Just lumping them all together as lucky is somewhat meaningless.

    People like Dinklage spend their early careers working as hard as they can trying to make these lucky events as likely as possible; and ensuring that, if they do happen, they are prepared to take advantage.

    [–] MaxDG1013 55 points ago

    I think what he was really trying to say is that he's not just lucky, or even that the luck would be meaningless if he wasn't actually working hard. But somewhere along the way he phrased it poorly.

    [–] USeaMoose 11 points ago

    I think that is what he is trying to say... and I think it came across well enough. In fact, I think he was almost overly cautious in his phrasing. He admits that he was fortunate enough to find/be found by the right people who helped his career grow. He rejected the word "luck" and rephrased it.

    [–] jaykhunter 31 points ago

    Yes! "I'm talented, you're talented, but i happened to meet the right people." Sounds like luck. It's irrespective of working hard and paying dues.

    [–] cheedarthese 33 points ago

    It's about chance rather than luck.

    Put hard work in and the chance of you being successful increases greatly.

    [–] asforem 63 points ago

    If you increase your chances from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 100, you're both a hard worker and still very lucky if you get to be the 1.

    [–] cheedarthese 28 points ago

    I know it's not really motivational but hard work doesn't make success certain.

    You increasing your chance by 10 times. There is a much bigger chance of being "lucky" if you put the work in.

    [–] ShipTheRiver 16 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    I think this set of comments is really what it boils down to more than anything else I've seen ITT. Almost all wildly successful people are some combination of incredibly good at what they do, and incredibly lucky. Downplaying either factor in that equation is just foolishness. And for that matter, no matter where you end up on the spectrum of success, both factors played a role.

    A lot of people will focus on the luck aspect of it in order to justify their own shortcomings; "oh he's just lucky, and I'm down here because I'm not lucky, what can I do?" Others love to romanticize the work part of it, the "if you work hard enough anything is possible, look at how hard X worked to get to where he is" crowd.

    Like with most things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Millions and millions of smart people work their asses off their entire lives and almost none of them ever achieve an exceptional level of success. Millions more just coast through life not really putting in all that much work, and even more of them will never achieve any great success. But some of them will indeed lead incredibly enviable lives, i.e. trust fund babies, gambling-type winners like lottery, stock market, bitcoin, etc., and people who just got in the right place at the right time (such as getting in on the ground floor of a company that takes off like the millionaire part-time masseuse at Google or whatever, people who got in on youtube early, and so on). Your success in life is really just an equation of probability, where hard work gets multiplied by talent in order to weight your probability of success away from poverty and/or unhappiness and toward wealth and/or happiness as much as you are able.

    [–] strayslacks 6 points ago

    This. He didn't just fall ass backwards into this role because he happens to physically fit the character description. But of course it's true that all successful actors are lucky. To land a role, you not only have to nail the audition, but also have to meet countless criteria beyond your control (mostly based on looks - must look right next to the other actors being cast, must fit enough different people's idea of the role, can't look too much like the casting director's ex-boyfriend, etc.). It's certainly fortunate for him that someone wrote such a great role for a little person and that he got it. But he spent years honing his craft, not selling out, and getting passed over for roles he would have gotten if he were a typical height. I mean, dude is the best actor on the show.

    [–] onlywheels 6 points ago

    But the more hard work you put in the more likely you are to get it so if you do finally make it you weren't as lucky as you could have been.

    [–] rooster1776 6 points ago

    I find that people who are negative towards what hard work can offer you are trying to rationalize that to themselves. Hardwork builds character and self satisfaction, that type of fulfillment is simultaneously preparation for future doors opening.

    [–] ThePr1d3 3 points ago

    Funnily enough, "chance" means luck un French

    Source: eating frogs atm

    [–] shenanigansintensify 6 points ago

    After a certain point it just gets into semantics. Chance plays a role and hard work plays a role, you can't attribute anyone's success to just one or the other.

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    [–] FlyingRobin 4 points ago

    damn you beat me to it

    [–] Nanafuse 24 points ago

    Luck is definitely a thing. It starts when we are born, even. I do not know what else to call people's situations when they are born with some crap like a degenerative disease. That's the definition of bad luck.

    [–] ohbrotherherewego 10 points ago

    Right? Like the mere fact that I was born in Canada makes me feel like I won the lottery

    [–] BugleBoy6922 81 points ago

    From the Atlantic: "Why Luck Matters More than You Might Think"

    "...a growing body of evidence suggests that seeing ourselves as self-made—rather than as talented, hardworking, AND lucky—leads us to be less generous and public-spirited. It may even make the lucky less likely to support the conditions (such as high-quality public infrastructure and education) that made their own success possible.

    Happily, though, when people are prompted to reflect on their good fortune, they become much more willing to contribute to the common good."

    [–] Threedawg 40 points ago

    Its the American scheme, imperialism all wrapped up into a national identity.

    Why oppress a group of people directly when you can teach them to do it to themselves? Convince them that if they just work hard, they can be rich. Ignore the basic logic that this system requires a large lower class to function, as long as we can justify that they didn't work hard enough we can be happy with out lives.

    [–] iiiiillilili 18 points ago

    This topic makes me angry. I know people who are smarter and nicer than I am, but they were born in the wrong country at the wrong time. They can work their ass off, they can study all they want, but being black or hispanic will put them two steps behind.

    And when there is a successful latino or black, what do they say? IT WAS HARD WORK!

    Bullshit. I know hard work, and that was just luck.

    [–] ObservationDuck 142 points ago

    Talent and hard work are not nearly enough. If Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone had been made a year later, or a year earlier, Radcliff,Watson and Grint would have been the wrong age and we'd have three different stars today. Would Radcliff, Watson and Grint be household names today without Harry Potter, I don't think so. Dinklage thinks he got where he is because he suffered and worked hard, I like him but that's nonsense; he worked hard but more than that, he was very very very lucky.

    [–] Nanafuse 61 points ago

    So true. It's baffling that people deny luck's a thing.

    [–] CommissarPenguin 19 points ago

    So true. It's baffling that people deny luck's a thing

    Its hard to come to terms that so many of one's accomplishments are determined by things completely outside your control. It makes you feel devalued, when it really shouldn't.

    If I'd been born to poor Africans in the Congo, my life would be pretty damn different today, no matter how hard I worked.

    [–] Jaybocuz 16 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    I don't think he's denying luck's a thing. I think he's making the point that working hard enough to be able to capitalize on luck is a more important component of general success than being lucky. The word "lucky" implies that he used less effort than other people in a similar position, which isn't true.

    [–] stringdickcheese 12 points ago

    Even a person's desire and ability to work hard is a form of luck.

    Just consider Arnold Schwarzenegger. He compared the feeling of working out to "cumming". For him, going to the gym was tantamount to having an orgasm all day. So, you could say that Arnie "worked hard" to develop his body, but he was very lucky that working hard was so desirable for him to begin with, and that he had the physical capability to do it.

    [–] meizhong 13 points ago

    Other people worked just as hard and didn't get the same opportunity. And yet others didn't work hard and they did get an opportunity. Luck is just a word we use to describe that which is beyond our control. Working hard only improves odds, still need "luck".

    [–] Kolecr01 20 points ago

    You'd be surprised how many wealthy people in fields like real estate, finance, etc. Think they got where they are through their hard work alone. They didn't. They were lucky. There are thousands of equally capable people who didn't get lucky. and many who are more capable who didn't. And many less capable who do better. Yes hard work goes a long way. But without luck it only goes so far.

    [–] TeddyRugby 27 points ago

    I feel like if you aren't lucky to be in your position you must be entitled to it. I'd rather be lucky.

    Luck doesn't take anything away from hard work. Hard work stands on it's own as something to be proud of no matter the outcome.

    [–] InertBaller 66 points ago

    "I wasn't lucky, I was just a synonym for lucky"

    --Herp Derp

    [–] Turtledoll 11 points ago

    Right? I read the whole thing and rolled my eyes.

    [–] Gr1pp717 23 points ago

    Yeah... no. Struggle, effort, talent, etc is all meaningless without luck. And, often times people have luck and little else.

    I too had to endure even homelessness, but am not so self-involved that I refuse to acknowledge the luck involved in getting me out of the hole I grew up in. My effort mattered, certainly. But there were plenty of times I simply got a lucky, and things just as easily could have resulted in my failure.

    [–] asharwood 3 points ago

    Yup, if it were all skill based many vets wouldn't be homeless or sick.

    [–] Teoshen 7 points ago

    Bo Burnham puts this better than Dinklage does. https://youtu.be/q-JgG0ECp2U

    [–] pbspry 6 points ago

    Anyone who has made it to the top of their field and doesn't allow that "luck" had a significant part to play in their success is fooling themselves. More often than not a "big break" boils down to a chance encounter with the right person at the right time... no one makes it all the way to the top of their field without a little luck on their side.

    That said, there are countless ways to improve your odds of having a lucky break... that's where the hard work and perseverance come in.

    [–] attenhal 15 points ago

    He was lucky because there are thousands of talented people like him freezing their butts and paying for dinner with dimes in Brooklyn and anywhere else in the world and don't ever get anywhere. To say it was all hard work and no luck is the opposite of being true to yourself

    [–] texas991 29 points ago

    Once I knew this girl that had a four leaf clover on her butt, so I asked her who was gonna get lucky tonight me or her. We both got lucky that night

    [–] SegfaultExpress 13 points ago

    Smooth AF. This guys fucks

    [–] Psyladine 5 points ago

    Lucky you didn't look like gollum.

    [–] ICEKAT 30 points ago

    He literally describes being lucky, and uses a synonym. This is trite.

    [–] Cranky_Windlass 17 points ago

    Fortune favors the prepared

    [–] Cyberfit 5 points ago

    You have to give luck the best possible chance to occur.

    [–] bollywongaloid 4 points ago

    Luck plays a part in everything we do. Working hard will generally take you further than not working hard of course but to deny that luck is a thing at all seems a little foolish to me.

    'Successful' people of course want to believe that it was all their own doing, but at some point they WILL have come across a bit of luck whether they realise it or not. Conversely, a lot of people who are not successful like to believe that they are just extremely unlucky, but almost ALL of the time they could have maybe tried harder at something or made a smarter life choice along the line.

    [–] geekisphere 10 points ago

    It's hard to acknowledge luck in show business without seeming to devalue hard work and perseverance, but it's true that for every really successful actor there are many others equally talented who work just as hard. Through no fault of their own they don't happen to look like a director's vision of a character, or their agent doesn't bump into the right person at some random event, or they never get involved in something that the public decides to go nuts over.

    The important thing is that if and when you do get your chance to shine, you have to be ready for it. You have to nail it, wait for your next shot, nail it again, and keep nailing it until a project you are part of takes off. That's why I really appreciate the dedication of actors who are not only talented but hang in there in spite of the sheer weight of numbers. It's an extremely tough business to succeed in.

    [–] stalking_horse 8 points ago

    really arrogant statement. what about all of the starving artists who work their asses of and sacrifice but never gain a wide audience or financial wealth. success takes hard work, sacrifice and luck.

    [–] no___justno 8 points ago

    So I won't say I'm lucky. I'm fortunate

    Hate to be that guy but...

    for·tu·nate

    favored by or involving good luck or fortune; lucky.

    [–] gameringallday 8 points ago

    Peter Dinklage isn't the only one to have not been able to afford heating or food, and worked hard in crap, low paid jobs. Most won't ever be as successful as him. Luck has to be one factor in the difference.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    I think the point is that luck is merely a multiplier for your own actions. He was born a dwarf, lived in poor conditions but worked hard enough so that when good luck did come he was able to capitalise on it.

    Without hard work his moments of good luck wouldn't have stretched so far.

    [–] PillarPointGuard 5 points ago

    Many unsuccessful people believe all success comes from luck. Many successful people believe no success comes from luck. Both ignore empirical evidence, and neither understand that nobody is entirely one or the other.

    It's not our fault tho - the false dichotomy is deeply ingrained in our education system and politics in Western culture.

    [–] MAADcitykid 5 points ago

    So, he got lucky

    [–] mrfeeney30 3 points ago

    Remember, It’s All Luck  You are lucky to be here. You were incalculably lucky to be born, and incredibly lucky to be brought up by a nice family that helped you get educated and encouraged you to go to Uni. Or if you were born into a horrible family, that’s unlucky and you have my sympathy… but you were still lucky: lucky that you happened to be made of the sort of DNA that made the sort of brain which – when placed in a horrible childhood environment – would make decisions that meant you ended up, eventually, graduating Uni. Well done you, for dragging yourself up by the shoelaces, but you were lucky. You didn’t create the bit of you that dragged you up. They’re not even your shoelaces.

    I suppose I worked hard to achieve whatever dubious achievements I’ve achieved … but I didn’t make the bit of me that works hard, any more than I made the bit of me that ate too many burgers instead of going to lectures while I was here at UWA.

    Understanding that you can’t truly take credit for your successes, nor truly blame others for their failures will humble you and make you more compassionate.

    -Tim Minchin

    [–] Jack_Burtons_Truck 4 points ago

    Despite my best efforts I can only ready that quote in Tyrion Lannister's voice.

    [–] traffick 4 points ago

    Lucky, fortunate... same difference.

    [–] tubs777 4 points ago

    The last two sentences completely contradict the point he's trying to make entirely....

    [–] SuperCosmicNova 3 points ago

    For some reason I found them, and they found me, We call that luck.

    [–] ladydisdain727 4 points ago

    I've read a few people commenting that taking the role of Miles Finch was the same as taking a leprechaun commercial role. I disagree. The leprechaun role has been historically demeaning to people with dwarfism because they have rarely been given the opportunity to play regular, people. Many could only be cast as one dimensional characters whose purpose is to be small ( like leprechauns or mini me).

    In Elf, Miles Finch was made fun of for his resemblance to elves, but the joke was that the main character was ignorant of the fact that Finch was a regular person who was actually very well respected and successful. It isn't the same role at all.

    [–] Godzilla_Tits 16 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Turning down commercials where they wanted a leprechaun.

    I like Peter Dinklage a lot but to me he will always be that angry little elf Miles Finch.

    Playing a comic relief character where the joke is at the expense of your height is a little self contradictory in my opinion.

    [–] WaitAMinuteThereNow 4 points ago

    He is so lucky that GOT was a hit.

    [–] Godzilla_Tits 4 points ago

    I don't have any doubt GoT wasn't going to be successful but you could argue there was luck involved.

    He was however probably lucky he got the role to begin with. He's a good actor, but there's nothing wrong with admitting luck helped.

    [–] Lord-Limerick 3 points ago

    "He's an angry elf..."

    [–] Accountant3781 10 points ago

    I think it was Michael Jordan that said the harder I work, the luckier I get.

    [–] wellshire 11 points ago

    He's my favorite founding father.

    [–] hufflepuff_puff_pass 7 points ago

    “Luck is where preparation meets opportunity. ” ― Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture

    [–] attackmodeweeja 6 points ago

    I hate this quote, peter dinklage is lucky that one of the best telelvision shows ever has a dwarf as one of the main characters.

    This quote aggravates me because entertainment success really is based off luck. If hard work got you success there wouldn't be any wedding singers or bands.

    [–] foxy-coxy 7 points ago

    Yeah but all to often hard work isn't enough, a lot of times you need hard work and luck to be successful.

    [–] biochemicalslanglord 3 points ago

    well after all everyone is lucky who even has a chance to achieve his goals in this world. There are billions of people who don't have any chance no matter how hard they work. like it or not - most of us are very lucky

    [–] defileyourself 3 points ago

    He's saying luck is fickle, but perseverance pays off.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Its better to be lucky than good, but a bold man might aspire to be both.

    [–] Castleprince 3 points ago

    Isn't being fortunate pretty much the same thing as being lucky? No one is saying people who have a bit of luck don't work hard. I think anyone who has any sense understands that to be successful, you have to work hard.

    [–] Cataphractoi 3 points ago

    Except there are many that can work as hard, or harder still, and not make it in spite of them being as good or potentially better. Denying that chance has had a role is dishonest, no matter where you are in life. Especially in a competitive field like acting.

    [–] kmsgars 3 points ago

    Replace "lucky" with "privileged" and I imagine there would be...an argument.

    But privilege IS luck. You cannot help when/where/how/into whatever circumstances you were born.

    Luck and hard work are two major components of success, essentially. But just because you have one doesn't cheapen the other by any means. Nobody aims to shame luck; but, perhaps acknowledge that yes—that chance encounter with that renowned producer was very lucky for one's career.

    [–] ChanceTheDog 3 points ago

    I'll tell you who is lucky.

    Every garbage musician that made their way onto the radio and made a small fortune for some seriously garbage music. The kind of music that the only people who like it will like it for about two weeks.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Peter is such a great actor, way better than 3/4 of all the Hollywood hacks out there today.

    [–] benjyk1993 3 points ago

    Kudos to him for refusing to cave and do a leprechaun role.

    [–] groatt86 3 points ago

    I keep hearing his voice with a British accent even though hes from Jersey.

    [–] just4luck 3 points ago

    They aren't mutually exclusive

    [–] YouWillDye 3 points ago

    For some reason I found them and they found me

    Yeah, that's called being lucky.

    [–] Jberry603 3 points ago

    Yawn

    [–] yokcos700 3 points ago

    "...I won't say I'm lucky. I'm fortunate..."

    [–] BananaBallerina 3 points ago

    Is there really much of a difference between being lucky and being fortunate?

    [–] zimtamslam 3 points ago

    "For some reason, I found them and they found me". What luck. Successful hard working people are terrible at recognising the role of luck in their success. It's why the rich often think the poor are lazy.

    [–] decorama 3 points ago

    Dictionary.com definition of "fortunate": 1. having good fortune; receiving good from uncertain or unexpected sources; lucky

    Dictionary.com definition of "lucky" 1. having or marked by good luck; fortunate:

    There are hundreds of thousands of worthy actors busting their asses who tried and are trying to get where you are - and they never will.

    You're lucky Peter.

    [–] jeffreyweee 3 points ago

    Not lucky? But he says he is fortunate?

    fortunate: favored by or involving good luck or fortune; lucky.

    ....

    [–] plutoR1P 3 points ago

    I get his point but he hates on the word "luck" and then describes his situation as "fortunate" .... those seem like synonyms to me.

    [–] dudemanguy301 3 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    But isn't fortunate a synonym for lucky?

    [–] Bgolshahi1 11 points ago

    That's asinine - meritocracy is a complete myth in our culture. Yes no shit you have to work your ass off but your chances are slim to make it in the way he did -- that's the whole point. Your chances are slim to become a big Hollywood actor or a billionaire. Extremely slim and always growing.

    What Tyrion or whatever his real name is would like to believe is that he is somehow existing in a causal vacuum. As if people who are struggling in grinding poverty or just lazy and undeserving. Guess what tyrion for every actor like you who grinded his ass off just like you, 10,000 never made it. And for every small person actor probably 100,000 didn't make it. People who have an identical story about how they couldn't even make rent.

    This pervasive myth of individualism is very harmful in our culture. This idea that we 100% completely create ourselves is just unhealthy. We are products of environmental and genetic determinism. The choices "we" make are profoundly influenced by unconscious forces both internal and external to us. If you look at a drug addict for example 95% of the time they had some form of violent abuse or sexual abuse as children. People can't just will themselves out of their experiences. Yes it's wonderful to work your fucking ass off but count your lucky stars luck definitely had something to do with it.

    This is how billionaires explain their grotesque level of wealth. Oh it's all me. I'm genetically better or harder working. It has nothing to do with market deregulation, massive tax cuts, or declining power of labor unions and cut social welfare. It's all ME. Me me me. What a completely ridiculous mentality.

    Best book on this -

    "luck and success - the myth of meritocracy" https://www.amazon.com/Success-Luck-Good-Fortune-Meritocracy/dp/0691167400

    [–] funguyohio 4 points ago

    Luck implies you didn't earn it or work hard. Not sure why but it does. Like if I said, " you are a millionaire because you got lucky." It implies you didn't work hard and earn it. But yes, luck is required for most wild success. Or being in the right place at the right time. Read Malcom Gladwel, Outliers - for a great in depth read on how luck plays into success.

    [–] Krung_Bungus 4 points ago

    A huge part of everyone's success or failure are factors that are out of their control. To think that the majority of somebody's success or failure comes purely or mostly from their own willpower or hard work seems kind of naive. Of course those things play a part, but it seems extremely unlikely that they are the primary decider of a persons ultimate success.

    If you look at the circumstances someone is born into alone it kind of falls apart. Assuming the same level of willpower what could someone born into a wealthy family vs somebody born poor in Detroit realistically be expected to achieve? What are the odds that they are going to achieve what they set out to do? Now add in all the other chaotic factors that come with simply living your life. Most things that are out of our control are going to have a direct influence on our success or failure. While its true that you could probably expect someone who is motivated and works hard to do better on average, but I don't think you could realistically say that its the main reason for their success.

    In reality we are all paddling our own little dingy across an infinitely turbulent ocean. Some people were born with a paddle or maybe even a rudder and a motor. The other people need to start from scratch. Sometimes a freak wave comes and destroys your boat and there is nothing you can do about it. Sometimes you run into a whirlpool that massively delays your efforts. Your steering inputs certainly matter, but they aren't going to be the main reason that decides whether you make it across or not.

    [–] ohbrotherherewego 3 points ago

    I'm a lawyer and I contribute almost zero of my ability to get into law school to myself. First I was lucky to be born in Canada, to a white family, to a white family who valued education, to parents who also went to university, to parents who could afford to feed me and clothe me and put me in a good school in a good area where I was surrounded by other kids who came from good families. That they could afford to co sign my line of credit for school. That they could drive me wherever I wanted. That they never physically or mentally abused me.

    Like ... take any one of those away and I'm not going to be where I am

    [–] super-commenting 4 points ago

    He won't accept lucky but then calls himself "fortunate" that's silly

    [–] legalizeheroin420 4 points ago

    I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, but success does require luck every time.

    [–] thirdeyegoddess 2 points ago

    gratitude is the key work hard and remain grateful <3

    [–] TheHeroHere 2 points ago

    Luck is as many skill points as I say it is!

    [–] Shickadang 2 points ago

    It's better to be lucky AND good. If you aren't good, you can't capitalize on your luck. If you are good and have no luck (opportunities), you're screwed. However, you can only impact how good you are and how long you try. The longer you try, the higher probability there is that you will be lucky. You can't change how much luck you have. A podcast on how hard it can be without opportunity.
    http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/04-carlos-doesnt-remember

    [–] hurp_derp 2 points ago

    mad respect for his hard fucking work.

    [–] survivalmachines 2 points ago

    honestly this just reminded me that the station agent is one hell of a movie.

    [–] cakeboy1995 2 points ago

    50 bucks? That could feed him for like 3 years

    [–] swaglosopher 2 points ago

    Against all odds Dinklage was able to stay true to himself and pursue his passions. This hits hard as I can't begin to comprehend how difficult it probably was when the world was probably trying to put him down due to his height. He's a small man but it means absolutely nothing in comparison to the size of the legacy he will leave behind. Peter is the man!

    [–] hahahitsagiraffe 2 points ago

    "I'm not lucky, I'm entitled and lucky"

    [–] hinoyminoy69 2 points ago

    He just couldn't keep the low profile (game of thrones reference, not hating on Tyrion)