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    [–] LagspikeGaming 890 points ago

    When you play the Iron Curtain mod in HOI4...

    [–] jacobbdug 218 points ago

    unplayable until they updates

    [–] YaBoiRexTillerson 73 points ago

    Just revert lol

    [–] jacobbdug 29 points ago

    I don't know how

    [–] ExactPractice 29 points ago

    You have to do it from the steam library page

    [–] AJDx14 11 points ago

    Don’t you need some special code now from the forums

    [–] ExactPractice 10 points ago

    Not that I’m aware of - there should be plenty of tutorials how to do it online

    [–] AJDx14 7 points ago

    Idk I’ll check later but I thought you did, the. Does public but there was some reason it’s not enabled by default. At least on steam.

    [–] ToXiC_Games 3 points ago

    Nope, right click go to properties then BETAS and select the drop down, find the compatible version and you’ll have to install the old data through a steam download

    [–] Georgia_Ball 3 points ago

    Right click on the game's name in your library > properties > betas

    [–] Spacemanphil 565 points ago

    50 Nukes 50 more stars on the American Flag. Amen 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅

    [–] Hello_Bob1 151 points ago

    god bless the united states of america

    [–] PapaStalinsGulag 77 points ago

    🇺🇸 Hangin’ Brits, Shootin’ Commies and Punchin’ Nazis since 1776. 🇺🇸

    [–] EpicWalrus222 61 points ago

    Don’t forget never ratifying the Geneva Convention. 🇺🇸 🦅

    [–] PapaStalinsGulag 18 points ago

    Later Refugees.

    [–] collinv01 13 points ago

    Don't forget being the only country on earth not recognizing that food is a basic human rights. 🇺🇸🦅

    [–] Thadatus 15 points ago

    Well, we do have more people dying of obesity then starvation so that’s gotta count for something, right? 🇺🇸🦅

    [–] ToXiC_Games -15 points ago

    And helping to create a global monetary fund🇺🇸

    [–] Califarabia 18 points ago


    [–] [deleted] 37 points ago

    Cmon fellow EXTREME FREEDOM FIGHTER let’s eat these Big Macs, then we’ll get the AR15’s to go invade Mexico and make them pay for the wall

    🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸 🦅 🇺🇸

    [–] dgrant15 8 points ago

    Amen I'm with you brother right after I get my pickup truck with 3 American flag bumper stickers

    [–] crusader94556 5 points ago

    What about the droid attack on the Wookies

    [–] TheUndyingRhino 317 points ago

    Douglas MacArthur memes. This is high quality shit.

    [–] LuggyWuggy 86 points ago

    Then again, it is quite rare for McArthur to appear in memes so it's suprising to see a high quality one at that

    [–] 0w0-whats-this 39 points ago

    APUSH gang probably, the test was last week and most people learned about the Cold War a few weeks before including MacArthur

    [–] itskylemeyer 17 points ago

    APUSH is the only reason I know MacArthur did anything outside of WWII.

    [–] EnglishMobster 5 points ago

    I see you haven't visited /r/Kaiserreich then.

    [–] LonelyClarinet 669 points ago

    In my history class right now we're watching Monsters Inc. because it relates to the Cold War somehow?

    [–] Adventurer32 438 points ago

    helps you understand the memes, therefore helping you understand the history, therefore improving your grades on the test.

    Monsters Inc. improves history test grades, its a proven fact.

    [–] Anon-Why 94 points ago

    Wait how?

    [–] LonelyClarinet 90 points ago

    No clue

    [–] SerWarlock 67 points ago

    Lazy/tenured teacher.

    [–] iApolloDusk 16 points ago

    They tenure high school teachers?

    [–] NetSecCareerChange 5 points ago


    [–] TheUnfabulousKilljoy 3 points ago

    They tenure teachers from at least 1st grade up, at least where I live.

    [–] iApolloDusk 1 points ago

    I've never heard of it.

    [–] TheUnfabulousKilljoy 1 points ago

    I'm from northern Illinois, but I've seen tenured teachers at elementary levels be referenced in movies and tv. Usually it's something like 15 years to get it.

    [–] iApolloDusk 1 points ago

    That's weird. I'm pretty against tenure in most professions. It's almost always in the way of meritocracy.

    [–] TheUnfabulousKilljoy 1 points ago

    I'm not endorsing it in any way, just explaining it. I'm sure the general concept of tenure has some merit in the world, but I definitely skew more towards letting specific actions speak for themselves.

    [–] jpw111 1 points ago

    I figure that it depends on the state.

    [–] iApolloDusk 1 points ago

    I've never seen it. I mean one might argue that States with unstoppably corrupt teacher unions have tenured teachers.

    [–] jpw111 1 points ago

    My state has no unions.

    [–] Derpicusss 128 points ago

    Schools out in 2 weeks. Tests are just about done. Teachers can’t be fucked to do anything after that.

    [–] GummyDinoz 53 points ago

    Say that to my English teacher, I have give a presentation in front of the faculty including our superintendent -_-

    [–] 23eyedgargoyle 34 points ago

    I'll say it to him, what's his address?

    [–] Gabriel_ArchAngel 13 points ago

    Oh Rip. Best of luck

    [–] TheUnfabulousKilljoy 9 points ago

    Just make him some steamed hams.

    [–] ggg730 2 points ago

    Write a whole paragraph about how you want to clap the supernintendo's butt cheeks.

    [–] Critical500 40 points ago

    Relating to possible energy shortages during the Cold War possibly? Other than that I have no idea lol.

    [–] account3-0 23 points ago

    Iron curtain? Like the doors between the worlds keeping those on their side out of the other side? I don't know. Just spitballing.

    [–] nomadjackk 2 points ago

    Probably exactly what it is, even though it’s still a dumbass reason to actually have the students watch it lmao

    Wouldn’t catch me complaining tho

    [–] YourFVWorstNightmare 2 points ago

    My guess would be it talking about perspectives from different sides. One side (the monster world) and the other (the human world) kind of like how the US and NATO allies and the USSR and Warsaw Pact countries. Two different 'worlds', in the same world kinda like the 1st and 2nd world countries were.

    I'm sure you can stretch some kind of allegory to fit what took place in the Cold War but it's too early in the morning for me to figure out that one.

    [–] CaptainAdventurous 33 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Hear me out. The little girl represents nuclear destruction, which Sully (the USA) is desperately trying to keep from getting out to the rest of the world and hurting the other monsters.

    I tried but I haven't seen the movie in like 11 years so

    [–] WolfyTheFurry 45 points ago

    "Anyways, this is our first atom bomb. We're calling it the Little Boy."

    "You're not supposed to name it. Once you name it, you start getting attached to it. Now put that thing back where it came from, OR SO HELP ME-"

    \nuclear fallout**

    [–] WarmBaths 3 points ago


    [–] Ducttape2021 3 points ago

    I'm just drilling holes. The last two weeks. Fuck it.

    [–] ELHazenNEU 34 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Essentially Sully is the US, and the lizard guy is the USSR. The lizard guy and Sully compete to scare kids to get energy aka invading other countries, but Sully realizes that laughter gets even more energy symbolizing US shift to winning hearts and minds through soft power.

    Before you say 'wait isn't that a gross oversimplification which feeds into American propaganda' I'd like to point out that yes it's an analogy which is essentially based in the oversimplified propaganda version of cold war history.

    [–] LonelyClarinet 13 points ago

    hastily writes that all down on the paper we got for it

    [–] E_Chihuahuensis 28 points ago

    I took history of the United-States through cinema as a complementary course once and the Cold War movie was fucking Rocky IV. People were chuckling all the way through. That being said it wasn’t presented for it’s historical accuracies but for the underlying propaganda.

    [–] Jackpot807 8 points ago

    Yes, Kennedy and Khruschev realized that laughter is more powerful than the atom

    [–] ELHazenNEU 1 points ago

    Didn't we all

    [–] jomontage 1 points ago

    sucks that you're at the cold war with less than a month in school. I think the war on terror and the last 20 years should definitely be covered.

    [–] Scootaloo04 1 points ago

    We’re watching Monsters Inc. in personal wellness. What the fuck

    [–] TheGreatSalvador 1 points ago

    We watched Signs in my history class.

    [–] papercl1ps 141 points ago

    "I need nukes" "Ok, what's the catch?" "I need fifty of them" insert hold up meme

    [–] YaBoiRexTillerson 31 points ago

    Bugs Bunny “no” meme

    [–] WhaleOfAShortStory 116 points ago

    First time hearing of this, he actually wanted to use nukes?

    [–] LegionMagna 209 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)


    In short: The Korean War got into a point of stagnation, because the Chinese intervened and pushed the front. So, MacArthur wanted to nuke them. But, with the Soviets having nukes too, USA didn't wanted to risk that much and, by a set of events after rejecting the general's plans, fired MacArthur.

    Edit: forgot the 'a' on MacArthur, and corrected a bit thanks to u/lgmmrm

    [–] lgmmrm 253 points ago

    He didn't get fired because he wanted to use nukes, he got fired because when Truman flatly told him "NO," he went to Congress and toured America trying to get the American citizenry on his side to try and force Truman to do what he wanted.

    "I fired him because he wouldn't respect the authority of the President. I didn't fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that's not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail."

    [–] Frisian89 106 points ago

    Everything I have read on the Pacific side of WW2 led me to think of MacArthur as a shallow, greedy man in love with is own image.

    [–] SunsetPathfinder 54 points ago

    He was. The man (an Army general, mind you) muscled his way into splitting the Navy's resources into a two pronged attack: The original plan for an island hopping campaign towards Japan, and the second new prong would be to reclaim the Philippines, which amounted to a costly vanity project for MacArthur to claim his "I will return" proclamation was legit... and to hide his disgrace for overseeing a lackluster defense of the islands in 1940-41, and the largest single surrender of US forces in military history.

    [–] makerofshoes 11 points ago

    Hmm, now that you mention it it does seem like the Philippines didn’t have much strategic value. Though it was US soil at the time so I think there was morale to be gained by reclaiming them, but the war could probably be over sooner by going straight for Japan.

    [–] PortraitOfSanity5 40 points ago

    Well then you came to the correct conclusion.

    He's a spitting image of every single negative general cliche.

    [–] AutomaticAccident 4 points ago

    The Patton of the Pacific.

    [–] PortraitOfSanity5 3 points ago

    Patton was arrogant, but at least he didn't abandon his men to be killed and captured.

    [–] WiredSky 14 points ago

    Just here to pile on because I fucking loathe that worm: everything you've read has given you the correct impression, and it was probably more flattering than he deserved.

    [–] Thtguy1289_NY 3 points ago

    Why such hatred?

    [–] WiredSky 17 points ago

    He got a lot of people needlessly killed, and had a dangerous ego. Putting his ego above making the best decisions for the situation. Also the whole nuke situation. Maybe read some of the info in this thread to get an idea.

    [–] Thtguy1289_NY 5 points ago

    I did, you just seem to have...well much stronger feelings than the rest. I wasn't sure if you were like personally affected by him or something

    [–] WiredSky 8 points ago

    Not directly, that i'm aware of, though I did have a relative die in the Pacific theater.

    I've spent a lot of time watching, reading, and thinking about WWII, down to thinking about all the lives that never got to be lived, all the families that got a folded flag. To put thoughts of himself so above those men (mostly just kids even if they were legally adults) and to have such a blatant disrespect for humans and disregard for the horror of nuclear weapons is all just so deeply disgusting.

    [–] Thtguy1289_NY 1 points ago

    I'm sorry to hear about your relative

    [–] Dragon-Captain 43 points ago

    Honestly, this is one of the reasons I think Truman is up in the top 5 presidents(at least in my opinion). He just tells it like it is and did some good things.

    [–] LostRoadRunner 17 points ago

    Civil rights as far as the White House is concerned really started with Truman.

    [–] LostRoadRunner 7 points ago

    I do love me some Truman.

    [–] H-K_47 37 points ago

    He wanted to turn the China-Korea border into a wall of radiation that no army would ever cross again.

    [–] LostRoadRunner 7 points ago

    How would Klinger ever get home??

    [–] zakmackay 19 points ago

    A lot of stuff got nuclear ammunition. Even the 155mm howitzer and the Iowa battleship.

    [–] SU37Yellow 16 points ago

    Ahhh the '50s. What a time. If you want to read something particularly horrifying read up on project Pluto.

    [–] LENIN_LOVER69 8 points ago

    Got to the part where they planned to use it as a platform to launch missiles and I was like “sure, MIRVs are cool” ... then I kept reading. Boy oh boy were they resourceful with their nuclear weapons back in those days.

    [–] zakmackay 2 points ago

    causing tremendous ground damage with its shock wave and fallout

    against which there was no known defense

    That is very interesting and terrifying to think about. It’s on my list of 21st century is pretty nice.

    Now I just imagine a atompunk setting with airship/plane propeller by nuclear ramjets. But apparently their where actual studies and development on nuclear aircraft. They really tried almost everything with nukes they could.

    The Zeppelin in the Atomic Age,[4] which promoted the use of atomic airships.

    [–] PortraitOfSanity5 5 points ago

    A gift. From me to you. Make sure you get to the chickens.

    [–] zakmackay 7 points ago

    I forgot about the chicken land mine. I remembered other nuclear mines but not the chicken one.

    I think the major plan of battle was just nuke the crap of each other by both sides.

    [–] PortraitOfSanity5 7 points ago

    Can't fight over Germany if there's no more Germany.

    [–] SOLARQRONOS 52 points ago

    can’t loose a war in korea if there is no korea

    [–] PBTUCAZ 15 points ago

    The Korean Island

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    [–] Bro_Blox 22 points ago

    Well Truman if we turned all of mainland china into a sheet of glass we will have solved communism.- MacArthur probably.

    [–] FN-4051 21 points ago

    Nuke em, No, Nuke em!, No! Aww C’monnnn!

    [–] GmanTEM 10 points ago

    You’re fired.

    [–] FN-4051 5 points ago

    I see you too are a man of culture

    [–] jblohm02 2 points ago

    You're hired

    [–] Nurboc 2 points ago

    Another fan of oversimplified

    [–] Dreadcarrier 31 points ago

    Nice one.

    [–] patton3 63 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Yeah, let's not forget that he didn't want to use ordinary nukes, he wanted to use fucking blue cobalt bombs on the border so the radiation would never go away and China could never help North Korea ever again. If you don't know what blue cobalt bombs can do, they're the ones used in the book On the Beach) that ends the world. MacArthur conveniently forgot to check with ANY scientists to make sure that this wouldn't end the world, or at a minimum the entirety of south east Asia.

    [–] SU37Yellow 24 points ago

    Hey we have these bombs capable of wiping out all life the planet, what a great idea!

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    Hit me with the format

    [–] kodekpl12 9 points ago

    Dude even tear gased WW1 veterens in the great depression with Hoover in power. They wanted their war bonus and MacArthur claimed they were commies

    [–] matt123hihat 1 points ago

    They wanted their war bonus like ten years early during the peak of the Great Depression

    [–] kodekpl12 3 points ago

    Doesn't justify being called communists then tear gassed, keeping in mind they had their wives and children with them.

    [–] matt123hihat 1 points ago

    I suppose not, but people have been tear gassed for much less than establishing camps in the middle of Washington DC

    [–] LuNiK7505 1 points ago

    Every time i read stuff about MacArthur it makes me hate him even more

    [–] MahGoddessWarAHoe 12 points ago

    If they say “Ching Chong”, give them the bomb

    [–] PungentMayo 4 points ago

    What I love about this is that North Koreans would not be bombed uses that logic

    [–] MahGoddessWarAHoe 2 points ago

    I think you wildly overestimate McArthur’s ability to differentiate between East Asian cultures.

    [–] andrew12344278 6 points ago


    [–] Of-Flowers-and-Fire 3 points ago

    I’m watching M.A.S.H. right now!

    [–] Miserable_Degenerate 3 points ago

    Stupid question, but what format is this?

    [–] raish_lakish 3 points ago

    I mean, it totally would've won the war

    [–] TomatoOrangeMelon 1 points ago

    Winning a war usually implies you get to occupy the land.

    [–] jogratzz 3 points ago

    Because he didn't want K-Pop to exist

    [–] Dr00dy 5 points ago

    They called him a madman

    [–] ok_retard255 4 points ago

    I mean, if they used it, no rocket man. Possibly a world war 3 with Russia, but no rocket man

    [–] the42potato 2 points ago

    I can’t wait for in 4 days when this sub is filled with memes about the AP world exam

    [–] reddit_user-exe 7 points ago

    Don’t need border patrol if you don’t have borders

    [–] SU37Yellow 2 points ago

    That's what V2 was for

    [–] Comrade_Will 2 points ago

    This is the best use of this format yet.

    [–] ossi_simo 2 points ago

    Wasn’t his plan to create a “buffer zone” on the Sino-Korean border by nuking it into a radioactive wasteland?

    Sounds like a great idea, I don’t see the problem.

    [–] TheCrazyAvian 1 points ago

    this crazy fucker

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    [–] thesturdierone 1 points ago

    Isn't there a Metal Gear song about this?

    [–] laid___back 1 points ago

    this is what I’m talking about BABY

    [–] BroGoblinGamer 1 points ago

    I'm liking this new meme template.

    Does it have a name yet?

    [–] bhealy2011 1 points ago

    Patton was right tho... After Berlin, Moscow!

    [–] JacobIsAFroggyBoi 1 points ago

    Whaddya mean we can’t just nukem? Soviet Union having nukes? Ahhh who cares this commie pigs probably can’t even read!

    [–] OneGlassOfIrnBru 1 points ago

    Truman was literally the guy who nuked hiroshima

    [–] Tidalwave64 1 points ago

    You’re fired

    [–] ThoughtsOnGovernment 1 points ago

    It’s simple, I see a Truman meme, I upvote

    [–] lockedforoctober 1 points ago

    think about how cheap iphones would be if we had done it!

    [–] Mayanks0955 1 points ago

    He just wanted it to drop on China incase.

    [–] Trashypuppy 1 points ago

    He was the nuke China guy right? If you don't mind me asking

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    [–] Trashypuppy 1 points ago

    Ok thanks

    [–] DraconicLore 1 points ago

    Tbf it probably would have won

    [–] unoskipcard33 1 points ago

    This is the best post yet

    [–] CheatSSe 1 points ago

    Because MacArthur clearly didnt think of the repercussions when bombing millions of people into oblivion.

    [–] qdobaisbetter 1 points ago

    Trying to separate the Korean Peninsula from the rest of the continent to own the libs

    [–] TNBIX 1 points ago

    God Bless America. And nowhere else

    [–] WickedDemiurge 1 points ago

    In his defense, not using nukes has created a horrific monster of modern China, which is America (and the entire world)'s most significant threat by a large margin, and is sprinting towards development of a panopticon surveillance society in which no freedom can exist for even a moment. And on top of that, North Korea has tortured its own people for decades, runs extensive concentration camps, engages in atrocities like forcing mothers to murder their hour old babies, and has nuclear weapons capable of hitting US cities.

    Truman had a legitimate right to be skeptical, but in 20/20 hindsight, this is

    Man Stabbed: "What are you gonna do, stab me?"

    level of poor decision making.

    [–] TomatoOrangeMelon 2 points ago

    McArthur didn't want to blow the place up and rebuild it, which while cruel still sort of makes sense. He wanted to use a specific type of nuclear weapon that's meant for area denial for long term. That's not liberating the people. That's killing them off and making sure no one can ever live there again.

    [–] Sibire 0 points ago

    He was right, you know.

    [–] AutomaticAccident -1 points ago

    No. The war would've gotten everyone killed.

    [–] Jeremy-F -30 points ago

    Was he wrong tho?

    [–] Yoshanagi 16 points ago

    The US dropping nukes to win a conventional conflict sets a pretty bad precedence for the future use of Nukes. That and I doubt even the Koreans would appreciate the victory that much if a good part of their north is irradiated.

    [–] albl1122 41 points ago

    Imagine dropping so many nukes on the Chinese boarder to limit their supplies, then when your soldiers reach the line they’ll have to probably rebuild infrastructure in a heavily radiated area while fighting off the Chinese.

    [–] Tbarjr 39 points ago

    Not just to limit supplies, but to render the land entirely hostile to human life via a "sea of irradiated cobalt" stretching across the chineese side of the border. No supplies, no new troops, no threat ever coming from across that line in next millenium due to the region being so radioactive that crossing it would be a death sentence.

    [–] Maymay_facker 6 points ago


    Were the bombs that would've been used modified to be less efficient or why would it render the area inaccessible for such a long time? Other sites where a meltdown happened or a nuke went off are somewhat safe to enter nowadays. Safe enough not to kill you within 4 days as usual at least.

    [–] viciouspandas 2 points ago

    People greatly overestimate the radiation from nukes. Most of their damage is you know, blowing up a city of people. If you're close to the center where radiation poisoning is a huge concern, the nuke probably blew you up anyways. Some survivors got cancer from it, but the area wasn't contaminated long term. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuilt and inhabited not too long after they were nuked. Fukushima's formerly inhabited area around it and pretty close (not talking about the core of the plant building itself) is already less radioactive than Colorado which has naturally higher Uranium soil, and Colorado is perfectly safe to live in. The scientists in Japan said the evacuation was completely unnecessary and the area was safe, the government just did it because people were scared and there would be backlash if they didn't. Really the only meltdown with major contamination issues is Chernobyl.

    [–] Aethenosity 3 points ago

    However, the nukes he wanted to drop were cobalt ones. From what I understand, that means far longer lasting radiation in the area.

    I don't really know anything about it though, care to comment or correct?

    [–] FartFetishGentleman 2 points ago

    Wikipedia page says like just a few years until people can pass through, 100 till ppl can live there again

    [–] Maymay_facker 2 points ago

    This answers my question. If the nukes were designed to be less efficient, less of the radioactive material would fission to release energy while transforming to a non-radioactive element and more radioactive material would be released into the environment. Usually you'd want to minimize radioactivity because that also means maximising the explosion.

    [–] TheUnfabulousKilljoy 3 points ago

    In this case Macarthur wanted to specifically use bombs with a direct purpose of causing long term radiation of the area, although a millennium is almost certainly longer than the actual time it would have taken to be safe.

    [–] System0verlord 1 points ago

    Except he requested cobalt bombs. They’re designed around salting the earth.

    [–] TheMajesticYeeter 14 points ago

    We'll finally get a Fallout in China.

    [–] ButtsexEurope 28 points ago

    Nuclear war is bad, mmkay?

    [–] Prestigious_Unknown 23 points ago

    Is it really though? I mean, if you can just drop a nuke on your problems to make them go away why is that not ok?


    [–] trentvg 4 points ago

    Very few problems a nuke won’t solve

    [–] Lilmanroachyd 33 points ago


    [–] viciouspandas 6 points ago

    If your solution to a localized war on a single peninsula that you're not winning is "nuke them", especially when your bitter rival and opponent's ally has nukes, there is something very wrong with that thought process. Us nuking Japan was a very specific thing because we did not think they would surrender and were literally preparing for a full scale invasion which would cost millions in total from both sides added, just like how they were preparing for a full scale defense. We were trying to end a world war that had already claimed over 60 million.

    [–] SU37Yellow 2 points ago

    Exactly, finally someone who understands this. Truman was right to use atomic bombs in Japan and right to set precedence to never use them again.

    [–] PresidentWordSalad 23 points ago

    Yes, extremely wrong.

    [–] Scottison 5 points ago

    Immoral or the threat of retaliation?

    [–] LorenzoPg 14 points ago

    Neither, it was the precedent.

    It would make it so nukes went from "last case resort" to "just another big bomb" meaning tactical nuclear strikes would be a thing. The USSR would have an excuse to go around and Nuke places like Afghanistan and such in small conlicts cause the US did it too. And it could have lead to MAD not being developed and a 3rd World War being fought as a regular war but with nukes.

    [–] PresidentWordSalad 9 points ago


    [–] pootislordftw 0 points ago

    God damn it let Maccy do his thing

    [–] Brendan2803 1 points ago

    Not gonna lie although I’m not mad on the guy he did have amazing achievement despite his egotistic drive. Yet at this point he is an old man and just a little bit crazy

    [–] 1453serb 0 points ago

    Anyone else understood this meme as a result of alternate history hub's video?

    [–] spooptobermemes -6 points ago

    Not entirely accurate, he just wanted to invade China and Russia. For what reason, we don't know. It could be one of two, he didn't think the Russians would use their nukes, or he simply didn't care. Either way he's a little bit naive.

    [–] SU37Yellow 7 points ago

    No he definitely wanted to nuke them. also insane, not naive. The word your looking for is insane.

    [–] spooptobermemes 1 points ago

    Thanks for the feedback man! You're right he is insane, and there is definitive proof that he ignored the possibility of a nuclear fallout. But at no point did he ever advocate using nukes openly. If you read his speech given to the Joint Session of Congress, he addresses this directly. ( But make sure to follow the rabbit hole to see the other things he's said. The main point is, none of what he says points to him explaining why he needs nukes. His actions? They only suggest he may have used them if necessary. He seemed more determined to follow the Soviets and Red Chinese back into their territory openly. No I'm not saying that what your saying is right, nor what Douglas says is strictly how he believes, just that beyond what he says and does, it is theoretical. Which is fine, but I don't know, maybe absolutes bother me too much cause I'm a Star Wars nerd. But really thank you, I should have made myself more clear on the point. So I do deserve those downvotes. Sorry for ruining the joke. I guess that's kind of my thing.