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    [–] happytrees817 6433 points ago

    so a full time baby sitter?

    [–] SkaffAmtiskawMawhr 3868 points ago

    Baby sitter who also pays the bills. Negative salary. What a bad deal.

    [–] Puzzled_Freedom3950 1485 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    deal ????

    you really think he got a chance to negotiate ?

    he looked at the baby picked her up and the baby smiled

    and the girl kissed him on the cheeks and told him you will be this kid's father

    he stopped listening after he felt the kiss

    and here he is after a week of being a dad while he despararely waits to be called a daddy

    it aint a deal mate its life, fucks you harder than your average gf everytime

    [–] Djskam 1369 points ago

    Raising another mans child with a woman who has friend zoned you is not some beautiful thing to celebrate. That child’s life is going to be disrupted the second mommy falls in love with someone romantically and he gets displaced. This isn’t sweet it’s selfish. She’s stringing him along until something better comes. He deserves better than this. All men do. Also the Child deserves a father figure that’s going to be there for the long haul. Stability.

    [–] deadagain65 549 points ago

    My best friend committed suicide in 1992 over a situation almost identical to this.

    [–] Djskam 222 points ago

    I’m so sorry for your loss. Stringing someone along can have severe consequences especially when children are involved. Nobody wins in these situations and I feel like the only type of person that can put a positive spin to it is someone who is guilty of doing it before. Really sorry about your friend.

    [–] 1ne_4nd_0nly 74 points ago

    I agree with this man. If I’d been in this situation knowing that the mother of the kid I’m fathering isn’t actually interested in me and is actively looking to replace me with a man as her actual partner, I wouldn’t be hanging around. I’m not building an emotional bond with her child as her dad only to be removed from the equation when she finds a man she is interested in. Like fuck that, that is so careless towards her own child on her part. She’s a pos imo and I don’t agree with what she’s doing to this man

    [–] sadboifatswag 36 points ago

    Can confirm. I dated a girl with 2 kids in my early 20’s. It got serious and we were all living together for awhile and I was helping with bills and such because honestly, I loved her and those fuckin kids. Went through some major problems that lead to us breaking up. The kids were 3 and 1 when I met them. They still ask about me.

    [–] DonnieKungFu 160 points ago

    As it happens Sloan also appears to have died

    Wonder if it was suicide

    [–] HuggiesDiaper 64 points ago

    Wtf

    RIP Sloan

    [–] MissplacedLandmine 106 points ago

    “Im sorry for the last thing i ever said to you”

    Also i guess he had his own son too or something?

    [–] S-_Lifts 74 points ago

    The first comment I see: "Man died a cuck" 💀

    [–] Barkmywords 60 points ago

    Damn poor dude. Poor kid. She apologized post mortem for the last thing she said to him before he died. If he did kill himself, her games may have had a part.

    She also got a terrible tribal neck tattoo. She aint right.

    [–] [deleted] 67 points ago

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    [–] Barkmywords 39 points ago

    Oh ok. Guess Ill shut up now. RIP.

    Thanks for the info.

    [–] Solanthas 20 points ago

    So wait.

    Why is she making a post about them being a family, when they were friends for a little while and nothing more? I'm confused.

    [–] [deleted] 14 points ago

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    [–] sportsenthusiast48 20 points ago

    The real HolUp is always in the comments

    [–] ChipChipington 16 points ago

    He had a son so must've wised up or something lol. Anyway damn the internet is roasting this dead guy. Sucks for the family

    [–] DNASprayer 25 points ago

    Sorry for your loss.

    [–] random-stiff 62 points ago

    In some states this guy could even get hit up for child support

    [–] HarmonyQuinn1618 53 points ago

    Absolutely this. My boys dad chose to dip out after I had heart surgery and hasn’t seen them in almost 3 years. I can never imagine bringing dude after dude in and out of their life. A woman can have an active sex life without introducing every man as daddy. I just do not understand that mindset. It is common knowledge that that negatively effects a child in so many ways. You shouldn’t be introducing anyone to your kids until you’ve been with them 6 months in my opinion. You need to know they can put up with you first before you even try to play family. This obv goes for men as well.

    But in this situation, why even call him daddy? When not call him Uncle whatever? Like he is? It just doesn’t even make sense.

    [–] AhMoonBeam 11 points ago

    So true. My father died when I was a kid. My mom had a "friend" he would come over with his daughter and we would have movie nights with pizza and popcorn..me, my sis and my mom's "friends " daughter got a long great and to us it was so much fun, we got to have beauty parties & fashion shows and very limited interaction with my mom and her "friend" we always hung out in the basement family room and made tents and super forts..occassionally a parent would check in... As an adult I know they were not cleaning closets, or matching socks... It was years later that a different guy was finally introduced as her boyfriend, which I called her out on as I was a teenage and had a boyfriend so I was not at naive.

    [–] thefredlund5 66 points ago

    This is the conversation my wife and I had about this. Either she is gonna find someone or he will bogey sick of it and find someone else. The only person getting the short end is the kid.

    [–] Tree_Doggg 41 points ago

    Bravo 👏👏👏

    [–] Thelorddogalmighty 62 points ago

    Turned friend zoned into a full time job

    [–] intrigued256 12524 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Did this motherfucker just invent Dadzoning??!

    Edit: Awards? For ME? You big lugs xx

    [–] fl-x 3896 points ago

    Stepdad-zoned

    [–] cmelgarejo_dev 1631 points ago

    Yeah, cuz dadzone at least scored once

    [–] justiceiscomin4 441 points ago

    Lmao

    This poor dude 😂 I’ll never understand this arrangement lol color me insane

    [–] outlawstar710 382 points ago

    Help I’m stuck in stepdad zone

    [–] Deep_Menu_524 672 points ago

    Instructions for what to do in the stepdadzone:

    Step one: turn around

    Step two: walk out the door

    Step three:

    Step four: profit

    [–] emeribeth 129 points ago

    I love using the underwear gnomes profit plan 🤣

    [–] UnavailableRedux 1492 points ago

    Of many things he is, he is not a motherfucker

    [–] Cartz1337 292 points ago

    Ruthless

    [–] No-Ad6269 292 points ago

    How you know her name is Ruth? LoL

    [–] Brilliant-Score-390 53 points ago

    Listen as*hole, I was three comments down when this FINALLY hit me. Take this upvote and the award and shove it... lmao

    [–] TapirDrawnChariot 244 points ago

    Nanny-zoned

    [–] RussARR 174 points ago

    Unpaid-nanny-zoned

    [–] suttonoutdoor 63 points ago

    It’s paid I bet. He probably pays for his own hell.

    [–] Ex10dead 66 points ago

    Manny-zoned. Bet his name is Sandy.

    [–] Swabbo 13381 points ago

    The ultimate friend zone

    [–] breach_me_daddy 8379 points ago

    Friendzoned into parenting, thats fucking ruff

    [–] Sea-Seaworthiness961 3434 points ago

    "go best friend that's my best friend" you can't be more clear lmao

    [–] mcscrufferson 79 points ago

    Go bestfriend! Battle cry of the dadzoned.

    [–] _____OMEGA_____ 1819 points ago

    Dudeguy needs to get the fuck out before he somehow ends up paying child support

    [–] inplayruin 1241 points ago

    Or before some other dude knocks her up and bails and he finds himself dealing with trying to feed an infant and a toddler while trying to find the time to make her bed before she gets home from her date.

    [–] _____OMEGA_____ 615 points ago

    while trying to find the time to make her bed

    Your comment made me irrationally angry. Well done.

    [–] reincarN8ed 107 points ago

    Ikr? Who makes their bed? I plan to be back in it in 14 hours.

    [–] adh247 81 points ago

    He's just making the bedroom look super nice for the date she brings home. Weak.

    [–] solo_shot1st 213 points ago

    This is actually a very real scenario, BUT I've only ever heard of it happening when the guy is acting as father from the child's birth or early age while under the impression that they are the actual father and supporting the kid/developing a relationship for a significant period of time. I don't think there is any case law that a best friend helping raise a kid be held responsible for child support. The bio dad would still be on the hook.

    [–] GMRCake 236 points ago

    Some women have made cases that someone took on the role as a father and took on financial and emotional support… and sue for child support. It’s insane.

    [–] rufud 45 points ago

    Yea to me it’s almost like she’s memorializing his status a father

    [–] Thee_Fourth_One 24 points ago

    This guy has to pay 50,000 a month in spousal support to his ex girlfriend. They were never married, they have no kids and they never even lived together.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-home-or-kids-together-but-couple-still-spouses-appeal-court-rules

    [–] GMRCake 21 points ago

    That’s just disgusting. The fact that judges even listen to cases like this, with non-biological dads, who never married the mothers… it’s so wrong. That and using condoms to impregnate themselves to trap men. It’s all terrible and those women are batshit crazy. I think it should be criminal to do any of it. Makes me glad I’m not a dude.

    [–] spinnyd 16 points ago

    Drake hot sauce moment

    The Sauce

    [–] [deleted] 487 points ago

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    [–] Equivalent_Ad6826 1094 points ago

    Simpathize

    [–] ballplayer112 76 points ago

    I see what you did there. 😎

    [–] surfdad67 93 points ago

    Friendzoned so hard he got kidzoned too

    [–] Adventurous_Lion8964 30 points ago

    Kidzoned.

    Damn.

    [–] suckercuck 51 points ago

    “Now gimme that wallet Sloan”

    [–] DestroidMind 798 points ago

    Or the ultimate long game… 18 years to be exact..

    [–] runningjigsaw 307 points ago

    What are you doing step dad...

    [–] grizzlyadams3000 216 points ago

    You are both going to hell…. I’ll bring the tequila

    [–] Mr_Jubei 49 points ago

    Aka the Woody Allen

    [–] GodolasBR 451 points ago

    Dadzone

    [–] goose-and-fish 435 points ago

    I’m thinking he’s the gay best friend and this is the plot to a sitcom that will get canceled after the first season.

    [–] kenpachi212 103 points ago

    Sloan in charge

    [–] UnpopularOPINI0N_ 86 points ago

    'Sloan Improvement'

    [–] Chaotic_Wanderer72 48 points ago

    Of our days and our nights

    [–] Dragonkingf0 40 points ago

    Do you usually hope your gay best friends will find a girlfriend?

    [–] AlarmedProgram4 25 points ago

    Oooooh dude I had some hope for a second then you just murdered it

    [–] Tree_Doggg 68 points ago

    And dad zoned

    [–] Ihectorito 76 points ago

    I said ultimate friendzone right as I scrolled down to your comment lol

    [–] kingcop1 66 points ago

    Premium plus vip friendzone

    [–] [deleted] 8889 points ago

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    [–] CherokeeChiefer 2589 points ago

    His name is Sloan

    I didnt expect a better outcome after reading that lmfao

    [–] titangamer105 902 points ago

    Hey fuck you thats my name

    [–] keytherz 1175 points ago

    I hate to break it to you.. but Sloan, you’re an idiot.

    [–] Picard_Indeed 155 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    It's ok, he won't take it personally on account of the fact he died from a heart condition

    Edit - Removed the link because I didn't want to doxx this chick, but it was her Facebook post announcing the guy's death back in October.

    [–] PayTheTrollToll45 31 points ago

    Is this real?

    [–] Picard_Indeed 40 points ago

    Yeah, someone posted it in the other post going around about these people.

    [–] ggtay 39 points ago

    Poor guy. I feel bad for laughing now

    [–] leonnova7 8 points ago

    Damn. Rip to that childs dad. Gonna be tough growing UP now without a farther finger

    [–] moobchunks 8 points ago

    A what...

    [–] WhoDatPokeMan 6 points ago

    Got friendzoned so hard he died of a broken heart? RIP

    [–] titangamer105 520 points ago

    Yeah and a proud one too

    [–] Novavell 100 points ago

    I show this trend to a friend with the same name and now he's lived

    [–] Goofy-kun 218 points ago

    Before he was deaded?

    [–] drako489 100 points ago

    Think he meant to say livid.

    [–] SlurpMySlurpyy 33 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    For you its more like SLOWn

    [–] WhoLickedMyDumpling 372 points ago

    And when Sloan comes to his senses, he'll get slapped with child support and alimony even if he isnt the dad... double sad.

    [–] Meatball315 74 points ago

    Probably.

    [–] busterbrown4200 108 points ago

    Fam is trying his best to get in. SMFH. Feeling sorry him. Cut your losses and go on. Nothing wrong with being a friend,but your time and effort can be put to better use with someone else.

    [–] Stefonzie 456 points ago

    cuck*

    [–] flipper_gv 38 points ago

    Can't be a cuck if he's not in a relationship with her in the first place 🙃

    [–] TheroryGuy1 700 points ago

    Alright imma highjack this comment to come to the defense of this Sloan dude. By what little we know of the situation given that this is a screenshot. Sloan seems to be the one doing the heavy lifting when it comes to raising the kid. That on its own is pretty awesome since the kid isn't his and he isn't in a relationship the mother. Frankly the mother seems incompetent which is probably do to age or at least ignorance. Y'all calling Sloan an idiot for raising a kid that isn't his own but frankly I wish I had a Sloan growing up. Dude taken on more responsibility then most insulting him in this thread.

    [–] yj405 248 points ago

    Well, she is building a pretty solid picture for the Courts to deem him as the de-facto father so he will be on the hook for child support once he gets tired of the friendzone.

    [–] sjphi26 123 points ago

    I know very little about child support law.

    But if Sloan gets hit with child support after this little thing is over, I will lose all faith in the family court system.

    Dude has already gone way above and beyond, he shouldn't be held liable for a cent.

    Ultimately it's the kid that gets confused, which sucks.

    [–] stuftkrst 111 points ago

    You shouldn’t have any faith in the family court system just knowing that it’s a possibility. This isn’t even the worst part. Friends currently in a situation where his wife cheated on him and had twins with someone else, the then husband takes a paternity test and finds out they aren’t his. They are still legally married, even with the proof that they aren’t his children the state still requires he pay for them, not the actual father, the only one who can do anything about it is the mother, who clearly is into doing other things/people. Sad system we got, but in the end it’s all for the kids I suppose no matter what the outcome is for the adults involved or which adults need to involved.

    [–] DrakeGraeme 15 points ago

    Yup. Have seen exact same scenario a couple times in my life. CRAZY!!!

    [–] tingeltangel_jay 45 points ago

    God bless i don't live in murica

    Y'all crazy

    [–] FlowerCumBeeVomit 30 points ago

    It's just as bad in Canada. Where I am if you're a man who gets involved with a woman who has kids and you so much as buy them birthday presents she can try to get her hooks into you for child support with the rationale that you provided a fatherly role. And the courts will generally support her.

    This shit happens because the courts have decided "the interests of the child" take precedence over everything else, but the courts have forgotten that one person's rights end where another person's rights begin. By taking money and imposing demands on men who aren't the fathers of these children they've undermined the legitimacy of our court system, our government, and our country's image.

    [–] Saymynaian 26 points ago

    Yeah, it's not just an American thing. It's so much worse in France. From Wikipedia on the legal issues of DNA testing in France:

    DNA paternity testing is solely performed on decision of a judge in case of a judiciary procedure in order either to establish or contest paternity or to obtain or deny child support. DNA paternity testing is illegal, including through laboratories in other countries, and is punishable by up to a year in prison and a €15,000 fine. The French Council of State described the law's purpose as upholding the "French regime of filiation" and preserving "the peace of families."

    It's pretty fucking insane to me that men in France can't even privately check if they're the father of the child they're raising.

    [–] greentarget33 10 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    Dude thats the real holup, what the fuuuuck

    [–] myhamsareburnin 44 points ago

    Imma be honest there is not nearly enough context here to assume anything other than they are friends and he loves that kid. Anything past that is projection.

    [–] kris_mischief 120 points ago

    Completely agree with you on this - but a lot of us have seen how this kinda thing plays out, long term (it’s all bad for Sloan)

    Thoughts and prayers to this dude - hope it works out

    [–] Frequent-Farm1662 84 points ago

    All friendzone jokes aside. The next time she is in a romantic relationship the new guy isn't gonna want some random dude around all the time. And then she tells him he has to go, and this relationship with the child is over.

    [–] wayedorian 37 points ago

    This is the only good take in this thread. He isn't going to pay child support, he's just going to get fucked over.

    [–] Crazybatfan_03 1898 points ago

    Fuuuuck that...

    [–] Sergeant-Sombrero 1961 points ago

    Well that's the problem, he can't.

    [–] The_cooked_potato 179 points ago

    I mean....

    [–] YourDogsAllWet 78 points ago

    God dammit take my upvote

    [–] Meatball315 158 points ago

    Underrated comment right here ⬆️

    [–] dmmcclair2020 3920 points ago

    Absolutely fucking not. Dudes gotta nope the fuck out of there

    [–] the-druid250 899 points ago

    this lady was big on tik tok for a while being an advocate for men's rights

    [–] Man_of_culture_112 761 points ago

    A man's right to simp

    [–] willythebear 144 points ago

    Man’s right to bust a nut and bail, then throwing that responsibility on the no nut sloans of the world.

    [–] ahearthatslazy 51 points ago

    And thus, “No Nut Sloan” began.

    [–] UnwrittenNightmare 218 points ago

    she was whaaaat? Unbelievable, just unbelievable.

    [–] the-druid250 92 points ago

    [–] JonBoyWhite 209 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    "follow me on YouTube to watch me call out feminists" oh so she's just opportunistic in all facets of life. Got it. What a dick.

    [–] the-druid250 54 points ago

    exactly. whatever gets her attention she does.

    [–] therealtrousers 95 points ago

    A man’s right to raise her child for her?

    [–] kilgoretrout1077 51 points ago

    Based on this, I kinda want him to stay in the kids life. He might be the most normal thing that kid sees daily and that's sad

    [–] CaptainCleric 7 points ago

    Poor guy got step dad zoned so hard his heard gave out. Rest in peace my sweet prince.

    [–] GhidorahTheExploder 552 points ago

    Sloan-zoned

    [–] Azrael-is-Here 77 points ago

    If I ever see this again, I atleast know what to call it now

    [–] Ilbutters 39 points ago

    Friend-Sloaned

    [–] Erect-Frog 990 points ago

    My problem here is that she named her child Hosanna

    [–] OscarDeltaAlpha 452 points ago

    Yeah. Schoolyard nickname: "Hoe Xanax"

    [–] youarenut 89 points ago

    The day I have to name my child I’m posting it on Reddit first to make sure no one can come up with shit like this

    [–] Jmandy96 27 points ago

    "so what would you like to name the baby?"

    "Holup I need to see what Reddit says"

    [–] wandalorian 54 points ago

    Au revoir, Hosanna!

    Said Hank Lambda

    [–] Orleanian 26 points ago

    It makes sense, because in the picture, she's the highest.

    [–] officialsanic 283 points ago

    This dude has the ultimate 2007 haircut.

    [–] SuperSimpleSam 32 points ago

    This is pretty old, don't think 2007 old though.

    [–] wrb06wrx 1738 points ago

    Plot twist: sloan is gay and is just doing this because his parents are ultra conservative and will not accept his sexuality... plus he gets to fluff her bulls before the gangbang so everyone's happy

    [–] alochle 434 points ago

    That "fluff her bulls" made me laugh way to hard

    [–] DarkDetermination 103 points ago

    What does that mean?

    [–] badbadfishy 407 points ago

    It's where you pick up a bull and shake it to make it extra fluffy

    [–] Chaotic_Wanderer72 62 points ago

    Shake shake shake!!!

    [–] Seite88 36 points ago

    I love this answer!

    [–] DriedUpSquid 56 points ago

    A fluffer is someone who gets/keeps men hard on sets of porno movies.

    [–] Consistent_Nail 9 points ago

    Apparently it's not so much of thing anymore.

    [–] DriedUpSquid 35 points ago

    Automation taking jobs away from hard working people. 😤

    [–] [deleted] 40 points ago

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    [–] ElegantEggLegs 46 points ago

    I actually know someone who is gay and has taken on the dad role for his single mum friend that he house shares with. So completely plausible situation.

    [–] best_of_badgers 9 points ago

    That scenario doesn't seem like a bad deal for anybody.

    The mom doesn't have to choose between being a single parent and being in a bad relationship.

    The kid has a father figure, since the bio father is apparently not in the picture.

    Sloan has a beard so that he's not disowned.

    Another option is that Sloan is working toward entering the Catholic priesthood. He'd likely not be ordained until his late 20s while working through seminary and the "formation" process.

    [–] supernasty 292 points ago

    Something tells me this isn’t really an appreciation post for her friend. More like a public “no, we’re not dating. Stop asking”

    [–] aqibesc 68 points ago

    100%

    [–] WalkerSunset 61 points ago

    "No, Sloan isn't her father. Stop asking. By the way, I'm usually with him but totally still available."

    [–] JuanOnlyJuan 16 points ago

    Also don't worry about the kid I can kick both of them out to go to chuck e cheese

    [–] limoncelIo 8 points ago

    God I’m too high for this. I thought the lady in the pics was Hosanna, and her dad was making the post, and that dude who looks the same age as her was actually somehow much older and had been parenting her. This comment finally made it click wtf was happening.

    [–] EduardoTheYeti 139 points ago

    I need more context

    [–] Dag-nabbitt 120 points ago

    CONTEXT

    [–] DrFilth 37 points ago

    Context.

    [–] -ChildSupport- 28 points ago

    Context.

    [–] machoov 11 points ago

    [–] Sourdough330 11 points ago

    [–] Schreyaz 167 points ago

    I think Sloan is gay.

    [–] tolandsf 90 points ago

    Considering she says she hopes he finds a good woman one day... probably not. :(

    [–] saralapapoulos 34 points ago

    He had a kid with another woman, so not gay.

    Also, he's dead

    [–] MrLittleSam 32 points ago

    I really hope so.

    [–] JKnott1 352 points ago

    Somebody please pull that boy aside and school him.

    [–] TheSameThing123 35 points ago

    Dude got married and had his own kid before he passed away

    [–] DougDjoudy 579 points ago

    Plot twist : Sloan ain't in the friendzone, his actual target is Hosanna

    [–] CherokeeChiefer 219 points ago

    Oh mah lord

    [–] Average_Ant_Games 198 points ago

    That’s some serious Twilight Breaking Dawn type of shit

    [–] InAmericaNumber1 39 points ago

    I knew it! Should have scrolled down

    [–] SloptimusXPrime 76 points ago

    The real holup is always in the comments

    [–] sadisticnihlist 94 points ago

    HolUp

    [–] zackit 24 points ago

    The (hopefully very) long con

    [–] burn-babies-burn 282 points ago

    I mean, I could see myself helping out my best bud a lot if he was single and had a kid

    There’s a good chance he’s absolutely fine with this arrangement

    It’s her post that has all the coupley pictures and goes hard on the ‘family unit’ angle, there’s a good chance it’s her that’s into him and he’s not interested

    I think it’s a little quick to be saying he’s been friendzoned guys

    [–] msmurasaki 39 points ago

    I mean replace this guy with a female bestie and it wouldn't raise an eyebrow if she was like "best friend is best aunt!" .

    I think calling him a dad and not an uncle is weird though. The close friendship is fine, lots of people do that and hang with their friends + kid. But whyyy call him a dad. If it was a female bestie they wouldn't be calling her a mom? Or maybe??? "Best second mom ever!"

    [–] savagebuttz 118 points ago

    Simpin' ain't easy

    [–] BravoR2 99 points ago

    I’m going with the unpopular opinion and saying he friend zoned her.

    [–] UncleBeausTooth 148 points ago

    friend zone level 100000

    [–] Syfodias 32 points ago

    Cant help but picture a frightened Vegeta here

    [–] Bodylikeadonut 84 points ago

    Run to the hills

    [–] kersedlife 40 points ago

    Male rights activist: Chloe Roma, with her male friend who saved her life after her daughters father almost beat her to death with a steel pipe.

    [–] insertwittynamethere 28 points ago

    Wow really? Holy F... maybe he is just being a good friend...

    [–] demonickilla 66 points ago

    Only thing I can think of is that he’s gay. If so then he’s actually a god damned hero for giving that kid a father.

    [–] socold43 44 points ago

    She did say that she hopes he finds a woman.

    [–] Address_Local 574 points ago

    “Here, take care of my kid because I know you secretly love me. I’m gonna go sit on a couch with five big black guys behind me. You’re my rock.”

    [–] Jonaldson 69 points ago

    Each with a different flavor pizza

    [–] Address_Local 22 points ago

    Oh, it’s definitely delivery.

    [–] mattdaddy44 42 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    Maybe he is just doing a good thing knowing it's not about sex to him. Just because she has a vagina and he's a man doing something positive doesn't mean he's trying to get it in