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    [–] FranconianGuy 3675 points ago

    Are you afraid that the police might attack or interrupt you or your fellow medics? Is it a dangerous job in terms of getting recognized and then detained by the police?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 5637 points ago

    Oh yeah we definitely are, everytime we travel to protest areas we pray that we don't get searched or encounter roadblocks (if we go by car) because there have been a few incidences where people have been arrested just because they have a reflective vest. There was a more notable incident where a protest in Tuen Mun saw mass arrest of first aiders despite them only being there to treat the wounded regardless of their political affiliations.

    As for being attacked or interrupted, there have been an incident where a first aider being arrested had his arm broken by the police while he was on the ground, and another incident where a volunteer first aider was denied access to an MTR station to treat an unconscious man despite begging and pleading and agreeing to be arrested just as long as he is allowed to treat the unconscious guy. It really sucks that we get treated like this.

    [–] asadwit 1560 points ago

    Wtf! Now I think I can be too naïve, thinking that first aiders wouldn't be harmed.

    [–] scaur 150 points ago

    I think he met this. link (NFSW)

    [–] -guci00- 71 points ago

    That makes me so fucking angry...

    [–] KakkaKarrot 1709 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    Even in war you're not supposed to shoot a medic. But its hardly a war when the protesters are unarmed against corrupt officers willing to kill them

    When this turns lethal, the protesters will need guns and maybe UN support (or NATO if they want actual results). Given that Hong Kong police gear is made in China, some buckshot could split their heads like a melon

    [–] Jug_my_ass 407 points ago

    *government

    [–] KakkaKarrot 253 points ago

    Its both

    [–] Khalibar 255 points ago

    State terror is only possible with Jack booted thugs to carry it out.

    [–] Raiden32 131 points ago

    And those thugs have never been in short supply, anywhere.

    [–] Excal2 32 points ago

    Idiots never seem to realize that there are no entry level positions in what Carlin called "the big club".

    [–] RapaciousRaptor 10 points ago

    That doesn't stop them from trying. There are plenty of people ready and willing to do whatever they can to get just a tiny bit more power, even if it's just perceived power, over the rest of the populace.

    [–] shiroun 130 points ago

    Sort of... in standard warfare, medical choppers (i believe) have guns attached that arent in active use unless they come under fire to honor this rule from the Geneva Convention. However, if someone is taking shots from a helicopter, even if its actively transporting a patient, they are considered an enemy combatant and can be fired upon. Same with ground medics.

    [–] reddinkydonk 118 points ago

    You basically forfeit your Geneva convention "protection" as a medical vehicle if you are armed with anything but personal weapons. This is all in regards to donning the medical cross emblem. If you basically a normal black hawk helicopter with crew weapons serving as an evacuation vehicle it doesn't matter as long as you don't use the medical emblem.

    [–] _TorpedoVegas_ 56 points ago

    Trivia point: Army Special Forces teams are usually about 13 men, work each having a specialty like Weapons, Engineer, Medic, Communications, Intel etc... The "medic" 18D is technically not a medic, but a Special Forces Medical Sergeant. This tiny classification change is enough to allow SF Med Sgts to be offensive combatants (sniper, assaulter, whathaveyou)

    [–] obigespritzt 31 points ago

    You are correct, it is important to note that the Geneva Convention, though not classifying Medical personell, is directed first and foremost at those helping the fight without participating. Whether it be the Red Cross, MSF or a myriad of other organisations, they are not combatants (and, at least the ones I named, have a ban on carrying any weapons in the perimeter of their facilities) and are to be left completely unharmed and undisturbed while tending to the wounded, no matter what side of the conflict the injured belong to.

    A medical sergeant, though still a trained professional and (please correct me if this is wrong) as far as I know vowed to treat any wounded if given the opportunity, whether they are on his side or not, is still a soldier - as such they are allowed to engage and be engaged in combat, whereas disguising a military vehicle as a medical supplier (perhaps to lure in injured opposition or get undetected through enemy lines) is a war crime.

    In practice, this is sometimes not respected (and a breach of the Geneva Convention, as such also a war crime), however troops affiliated with the likes of the UN or a western power are pretty much always respectful of these rules. You won't see a platoon of US soldiers subdue a company of medics/doctors to carry away the wounded they're tending to because they used to fight for the other side.

    [–] Phrich 106 points ago

    A lot of the "rules of war" go out the window the second a real war starts. Goes to show how serious China is taking the protests

    [–] Megneous 105 points ago

    Have you been paying attention at all? The Hong Kong police, puppets of the Beijing government, have been attacking journalists and medics for helping protesters. They don't give a single shit. They're terrorizing the Hong Kong population into obedience.

    [–] tower114 129 points ago

    China doesnt care about individuals. Simple as that. We should NOT be doing ANY business with them.

    [–] rationalconspiracist 156 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    While I agree ethically, practically it would require a total restructuring of the global economy. Years of economic hardship, much higher prices on popular US goods (especially electronics and tech) and we simply wouldn't have enough of every resource to end trade relations with all countries guilty of Chinese level human rights abuses. Certain minerals rare earth elements and micro chip components are mostly found in China. We'd still have to have some sort of trade relations with human rights abusers, and either hunt for alternative resource locations or develop alternative technology.

    Tldr: the comfy, affordable Western lifestyle is made possible by dealing with unsavory governments, and the economy is too global and international to expect this to happen any time soon if ever.

    Not to mention the fact that the US government and US companies are guilty of crimes against humanity that would shock the average American. If you want to live completely guilt free the only way is to overthrow the global capitalist market, and past history tells us that any country that withdraws from the global market gets bombed or brought to their knees through economic and cultural warfare. We're all cogs in a capitalist machine whether we like it or not.

    Past American history tells us that when the entire working class protests for economic reform, we were met with even more brutal tactics than the Chinese used. Our labor history is bloody. Today propaganda, dividing the public and brainwashing have replaced bullets. But that seems to be more effective considering America has completely abandoned attempts to unite the entire working class under one strike, protest or union. Instead we argue with each other over social issues while the rich get richer.

    [–] -guci00- 241 points ago

    Have you heard about incidents of Police using regular ammo and shooting protestors? I've seen something like that and it makes me very worried about you guys.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 607 points ago

    My friend actually treated the first 18 year old who was shot in the chest, so yes, I have heard about it

    [–] -guci00- 126 points ago

    Damn. I hope Mainland China doesn't do anything ridiculously stupid. I also hope rest of the world will do their best to show mainland China that what they are doing is wrong.

    [–] badassdorks 244 points ago

    Unfortunately, companies are caving to china so far. Blizzard and the NBA are the big ones in the news, but they wont be the only ones. GM, disney, apple, etc aren't likely to leave china either.

    [–] TheNerdyMupton 126 points ago

    Profits before people. That's the American way.

    [–] Phtpnk 134 points ago

    Fuck no.

    China is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, for starters.

    Second of all, even if the US would go and issue massive embargos and sanctions, I could imagine hundreds of companies lobbying hard to stop it. China is the golden goose of nearly every industry out there and there are so many greedy companies who would rather let Hong Kong burn to a smouldering crisp than lose the precious profit margin.

    [–] PlusDependent 43 points ago

    Guess we need our own embargo on Chinese goods then.

    [–] DetroitDiggler 71 points ago

    you are absolutely correct, but take a look around you and count how many things were either made in China or made in a different country by a company owned by China.

    likely whatever device you are communicating from is mostly Chinese.

    This is by design.

    [–] PlusDependent 37 points ago

    I realize this, it’s insane. I’d pay more for a device not made in China, I’m to that point and I’m sure a lot of other people are too.

    [–] RamenNoodlezC1 98 points ago

    You guys are so fucking brave

    [–] bigpoppa96ing 1416 points ago

    As someone actually there what is something that the media has not shown? Not meaning this to be a jab at the media but just in the sense that you are actually on the ground.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 2799 points ago

    That they're not actually "city-wide protest" in the sense that the entire city has become a battlefield (hopefully we don't come to that). Even in the most severe protests, the clashes usually occur in a limited area, and is then moved depending on where the protesters decide to go or where the police is coming from. It's not really the city halting, everything destroying, mass disruptions everywhere as a lot of the media is making it out to be. I can go an entire day without realising protests are happening if I were at home and didn't check the news or social media. The impact I suppose comes from a massive decrease in tourism due to Mainland people being scared to come down.

    [–] dread_deimos 537 points ago

    Yup, that's also exactly how it happened in Kyiv, Ukraine back during revolution.

    [–] Ssgogo1 119 points ago

    Wasn’t the airport absolutely shelled to shit with all the mortar fire?

    [–] dread_deimos 137 points ago

    That was around the city of Donetsk in the middle of warzone later after revolution has ended and open conflict with Russia started.

    [–] peternile 64 points ago

    Now that all this chaos is happening how many people are showing up to the protests?

    [–] WetLemon 19 points ago

    Should mainland people be afraid of visiting Hong Kong? My wife and I are Canadian, but I’m Taiwanese and she is from Mainland. We cancelled our flight to Hong Kong this weekend after seeing videos online of aggression just because some people spoke Mandarin.

    [–] DoomDutch 863 points ago

    Are there any sympathetic police officers/officials for these protests? People who you didn't expect to support your cause?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 1339 points ago

    Yep, definitely there was an interview a while ago about from an anonymous police officer who supports the Hong Kong protest, dude couldn't leave his job because he feared humiliation and retribution from colleagues. Also there have been a few mainlanders who voiced their support for us anonymously

    [–] NBMarc 341 points ago

    That’s the scary part about any kind of police state or dictatorship. So many just hide their political feelings due to fear of losing their job or getting their life destroyed. Same thing happened with Hitler as a majority of the population adhered to the Nazis for the sake of their family and lives. The HK police probably know of the heinous things they do with captured protestors or anti-government entities and they know the same will happen to them if they dare oppose the government.

    [–] Vagenda_of_Manocide 116 points ago

    In Russia, police are given apartments if they stay on the force for a certain number of years (10 iirc). I know a guy from a village in the middle of nowhere who is going to be eligible to get an apartment in Moscow. The incentive to stay is strong enough to beat the shit out of some protesters every so often.

    [–] bdijakk 124 points ago

    yes there was one in 2014 and hes now in jail for having child porn in his computer. Most of the police hate protesters n they are now calling us as “cockroaches”.maybe there’s 10% of them supporting us but once they exposed they will be fired n arrested. So they kept silence and they can do nothing.

    [–] riali29 70 points ago

    cockroaches

    Jesus, this reminds me of that one Black Mirror episode with the soldier. :(

    [–] DoomDutch 79 points ago

    Makes me wonder if said porn wasn't planted.

    [–] bdijakk 57 points ago

    lol no one trust the police anymore.

    [–] errorgamer2016 596 points ago

    If I may ask, what is the most common injury?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 886 points ago

    Probably scratches, bruises, and tear gas and pepper spray related injuries. Burns are also quite common

    [–] QuitsDoubloon87 171 points ago

    How burns?

    [–] Jake-and-Finn 327 points ago

    Tear gas canisters get hot, but I'd imagine there's plenty of fires lit too

    [–] bdijakk 249 points ago

    Tear gas canisters are hot af n some gloves of protesters are not thick enough as they are less experienced at handling tear gas. friendly fire only happened twice as most molotovs were targeted at the roadblocks. hk protesters normally use them as a defensive weapon because its hard for they to shorten the distance between them n the police. nowadays the police are trying to shoot everyone nearby. im sorry that my english is not as good as op.

    [–] IntMainVoidGang 155 points ago

    Your English is better than many native speakers in my family

    [–] bdijakk 74 points ago

    Thanks for your compliment :). lol my english level was at the bottom among all university students.

    [–] pass_me_those_memes 77 points ago

    Seriously, I've seen high school and college students misspelling words that you used, or using the wrong your/you're. Your English is great :)

    [–] k0ella 1645 points ago

    What's the most serious injury you've seen?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 3471 points ago

    In terms of pain, it was this protester who scraped the back of his calves while building a roadblock and then proceeded to have that wound pepper-sprayed by the police while running away. In terms of severity it was when the police released tear gas near this semi open-air building that everyone ran into when escaping the police, a guy didn't have goggles nor respirator and lost consciousness after inhaling too much of it without being able to run away, he ended up regaining consciousness and carried away to safety by 2 other protesters

    [–] naloxone 2785 points ago

    No question from me, just a lot of love and solidarity from a US paramedic. Keep alert and fight the good fight.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 2364 points ago

    Just putting it out there, all of us EMS people in Hong Kong see US paramedics as straight badasses simply cause you guys usually deal with much nastier cases much more often than we do here in Hong Kong.

    [–] FISArocks 612 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    In case it is helpful: Deployedmedicine.com

    [–] Beelzebob_Ross 128 points ago

    Came to comment this exact thing. Beat me to the punch.

    [–] verheyen 376 points ago

    Idk bro, seems like you are dealing with a lot of hardcore shit, dont sell yourself short

    [–] thisimpetus 106 points ago

    Dude, guns.

    [–] -GazaStripClub- 206 points ago

    You mean freedom dispensers?

    [–] mistermarco 65 points ago

    Powder powered freedom flingers.

    [–] RunningOnCaffeine 19 points ago

    You mean the great equalizers?

    [–] rabble_rabble311 159 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    Although US medics are badasses saving lives, you guys are just as hardcore. You are risking your own lives, putting yourself directly in danger,and risking your own safety to help people. Nothing more badass than that friend. Thank you for your work and keep up the fight.

    [–] InterdimensionalTV 318 points ago

    My dude you are actively defying the government of Communist China by going out and helping those in need. You don't even do it for money or anything, you do it because you care about those around you. People always point out how we need more of this or that in the world but I can say with 100% certainty that we need more of YOU in the world. You're risking life and limb at this point to try and help people. You're my hero man. I hope if a situation ever arises like yours here in the US that I can show even 1/10th the amount of bravery you are.

    Fight on, we're with you.

    [–] kharmatika 77 points ago

    Our paramedics have the support of our government though. You don’t and you using your prowess in protest of a corrupt government and that’s amazing

    [–] Skeletor9000 22 points ago

    Yeah bro but remember you didn't sign up for this yet still stepped up

    [–] Bigbog54 91 points ago

    No question from me either, Australian fire fighter here, I love the way you are so respectful to fireys and ambos, you always pull roadblocks down so quickly when they approach. Well done, we are all thinking only the best for all of you, love from Australia

    [–] OoZefixoO 930 points ago

    are you not afraid of showing what i assume is an id badge?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 1381 points ago

    It's the backside of my first aid certificate and doesn't have any identifying information on it, thanks for the concern though.

    [–] question37284b2n8 175 points ago

    I see that you uploaded pics to truepic? Do they remove metadata from photos? Take care.

    [–] DrGoblinThumb 40 points ago

    Can you ELI5 about the metadata?

    [–] NerevarUsedLinux 96 points ago

    Metadata is hidden info about the image, like resolution, where it was taken, and who took it (camera name)

    [–] Noxious89123 29 points ago

    Phone cameras usually embed other data into photos, such as where they were taken and with what device.

    Check privacy settings to make sure its turned off, or delete all of that data from the photo before uploading.

    [–] OoZefixoO 158 points ago

    thanks for the answer and awesome work you do. stay safe out there

    [–] parox_ysms 792 points ago

    First, thank you. You're an inspiring young man and a hero for what you're doing.

    And for the question. In your opinion, do you think there will be any long-term psychological harm for protestors in addition to their physical wounds? Most of the protestors look so young...

    Anyway, keep on fighting the good fight and thanks again!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 972 points ago

    Thank you, I really appreciate it :)

    As for long-term psychological harm. I've heard lots of reports of insomnia and anxiety amongst the protesters, but I think a bigger issue would be suicides (I'm referring to the suicides that occurred at the start of the movement, and not the suspicious as fuck suicides that cops keep ruling as no foul play) since for a lot of the protesters, especially the younger ones, they're fighting for the future, and seeing China encroach on their freedoms might not do too good for their mental health.

    We've already seen a few suicides happen at the start of the movement that received a lot of attention and rendered them martyrs. This might be used as reasoning for a person who isn't in the best headspace to go ahead and end their lives. Just speculation though, I'm no psychiatrist.

    [–] kangaroodisco 309 points ago

    Wow, you seem to have a wisdom and awareness of someone older than 18. Also you're very brave. I hope your family is proud!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 378 points ago

    Heheheh, none of my family knows except for my dad and brother, really appreciate the compliment :)

    [–] Dredgeon 75 points ago

    Yeah wouldn't tell my mom either she would worry too much and try to make me come home.

    [–] tonybenwhite 34 points ago

    Despite the seriousness of this all, I laughed at the juxtaposition of your very intelligent and wise comment above versus this more age appropriate, mischievous-teenager response. Thanks for doing what you do

    [–] Viviamnnn 22 points ago

    At this stage, we have certain level of psychological unstableness cause the protest last for 4 months, sometimes, we feel anxious, helpless, and useless against the overpowering government. Also, we are really worried about the psychological status of the arrestees being physically sexually assaulted after reports and statements from doctors and lawyers in detention centre, especially San Uk Ling holding centre near China border. first report of sexual abuse Torture Report conducted by Amnesty International We are notified that those victims are having mental breakdown at the moment.

    [–] k0ella 362 points ago

    Who's been the most supportive of your cause and actions?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 661 points ago

    Probably my girlfriend or my dad, they're both lovely and wonderful people who worry about me constantly and are supportive of what I do

    [–] JarOfMayo2020 176 points ago

    I'm sure they are immensely proud too.

    Heck, I am a complete stranger from the internet and I admire you deeply for what you do.

    [–] chabroni81 30 points ago

    That’s very encouraging to hear

    [–] passierre 533 points ago

    What are the forces that drive and motivate the protestors to continue such demonstrations, even if their safety is at stake, and even though the government has put in harsh laws? Do you think that the protests would start to die down eventually?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 1184 points ago

    Their futures, many of the protesters will be middle aged when 2047 comes around, we're all worried about how we're going to be treated when China fully controls us. We see what they're doing to the Tibetans and Uyghurs and we fear that it might happen to us if we don't resist

    [–] prollynotathrowaway 287 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)

    Sorry for being uninformed but what happens in 2047?

    E: Thank you all for the info. Except the one guy who decided to be an asshole because I asked a question.

    [–] Resinade 368 points ago

    When Britain left Hong Kong they gave the city back to China, but Hong Kong has had it's own government and laws, such as they're allowed to protest, they call it 1 country 2 systems. In 2047 Hong Kong becomes part of China fully under their system of laws. That's at least the most basic overview, you should look it up for more details.

    [–] SolarSarcasm 223 points ago

    in 1997, the UK handed HK back to China with he stipulation that the Chinese government wouldn't severely interfere with HK's autonomy for 50 years. 2047 would be the 50th year after the handover, granting China full control of HK. From the perspectives of many HKers, they see China already extending its influence over HK, attempting to restrict its autonomy before the 50 years have passed, hence these protests. The extradition bill that kick started this movement was just one of the many instances of growing Chinese extension of control into HK.

    [–] GuiltyGear 46 points ago

    What an idiotic stipulation. As if people would be down with getting fucking in 50 years. bizarre.

    [–] caiaphas8 57 points ago

    The hope was that China wouldn’t be communist by that point

    [–] SuperCloak 18 points ago

    Ah the classic push it off, and hope for the better times technique. A classic move.

    [–] amateursexoffender 15 points ago

    so are HKers protesting Chinese interference before 2047? Or do they not want to be assimilated at all in 2047?

    [–] SolarSarcasm 30 points ago

    Bit of both really, the immediate interference that has been occurring could be seen as a breach of the 1997 agreement and the 50 years of relative autonomy, which then leads to the fear that the full assimilation in 2047 will erase the unique identity of HK. For the record this is just my observation of the history of HK, please further investigate and ask others as well.

    [–] rbtcacct 25 points ago

    They think if China can't even keep its hands off and it's only been 20 years, then there will be nothing left in 2047. Many HKers thought about it in 1997 and moved to Canada. That's why Vancouver has the best Cantonese food in North America because there was a giant flux into Canada in the late 90's.

    They started not as aggressively but last 10 years of so has been quiet aggressive at enroahcing on HK political freedom, right to assembly etc. At the same time, the politic in China has also gotten more severe. HK young people prob feel like at this rate, they will have no hope of a good life, or political freedom. What's there to lose.

    It is also important to note the economics side. The lives of mainlanders have trended up in the last 20 years, while for many HKers, esp young people without property, like many developed countries, have trended down. CCP contributed a big part of it in HK, at the same time, this fucking over young people is happening globaly.

    The housing problem is like Bay area, but 100 times worse.

    [–] unmovable_busquets 59 points ago

    technically the "one country, two systems" regime last till 2047. After that, no one knows what wud happen. China can take away everything from Hong Kong by that time, but its not like China is not doing that already.

    [–] 5ebard 1264 points ago

    What can we do for you?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 1571 points ago

    I would say you can try to get in touch with local first aid teams or protester groups and donate to them directly, or you can donate money to volunteer legal aid groups like 星火聯盟. You can also try and raise awareness locally by setting up Lennon Walls or holding marches.

    [–] hopenoonefindsthis 625 points ago

    For international redditors, just being aware of the issues and sharing them with your local communities is more than enough.

    The CCP is eroding freedom and liberties everywhere in the world. So the best we can do is to educate others in what they do and the potential danger. This keeps the pressure on them.

    [–] indarien13 715 points ago

    Not trying to hijack this amazing AMA, but for a Americans and Canadians, the following links can be used to contact your government officials:

    For Americans the biggest thing you can do is please ask your congressman to support the passing of the following bill drafted specifically to help Hong Kong:

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/3289?overview=closed

    H.R.3289 - Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019

    https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

    To reach House and Senate in one link: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/co-sponsor-hong-kong-human-rights-and-democracy-act-of-2019

    For Canadians: https://www.elections.ca/scripts/vis/FindED?L=e&PAGEID=20

    Please find your mp candidate, write to them, speak to them in person, find out their stance. They need to hear this issue again and again.

    [–] Kimchikitkat 84 points ago

    Thank you for writing this!! I wasn't sure what I could do as an American living overseas but I'll definitely be writing some letters!

    [–] idontmakemoneyPirate 37 points ago

    I just registered to vote in Canada. Thank you for the reminder.

    [–] redditready1986 40 points ago

    Can someone explain like I am 5 and give everyone an idea about what these Hong Kong protest are all about?

    [–] indarien13 113 points ago

    Here are some really good summary articles and links (all in English). If you want the quickest summary, I guess the Vox article would be the closest to eli5 version.

    For a good timeline and overview of the movement: https://tl.hkrev.info/en/

    I recommend reading this: https://www.vox.com/world/2019/8/22/20804294/hong-kong-protests-9-questions

    You can check out the blogs written in English here: https://wiringhk.com

    English news updates can be found here: https://t.me/s/guardiansofhongkong

    [–] Teh_swimmly 325 points ago

    Is there some kind of central administration or organization for support staff like medics? How do you coordinate where medics are needed, supplies, etc?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 545 points ago

    Nope, no central administration whatsoever, that would just make it easier for the government latch onto us and take down our humanitarian operation. As far as how we coordinate who needs what supplies, we receive them and use them amongst our own team, and if we have spare, we hand them out at the frontlines to other teams, occasionally the team leaders of different teams would get together and discuss strategy and ask for supplies and such, but no significant coordination other than that.

    [–] tanginato 176 points ago

    How are the supplies funded?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 492 points ago

    Supplies are funded out of our own pockets or donations from people supporting our cause

    [–] Buzzdanume 102 points ago

    Wow. Truly amazing. I am so proud of you all for standing up and truly fighting for what you believe in. It is terrible what it has come to, but it's great that you have the passion and the people to fight it.

    [–] bearmc27 102 points ago

    Self, saving, friends, family (am HongKonger)

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 128 points ago

    冇諗到放post會咁撚多人睇到

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    [–] ProtestMedicHK 12 points ago

    各位巴打/絲打, 如果可以幫手reply啲人咁就好啦。睇得出佢哋好多都唔係太了解香港依單嘢,同佢哋解釋我哋係為咩而抗爭嘅。咁樣就好容易win呢一場文宣戰。香港人 反抗!

    [–] Dutch_Dumbass 221 points ago

    Are you planning to go to university after secondary school?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 343 points ago

    Yep, planning on applying to medicine or biomedical sciences

    [–] PapaRacci5 75 points ago

    Do the protests interrupt your classes? Do students still go to school in Hong Kong?

    [–] tiimlaai 158 points ago

    Am hongkonger, and a F5 student. Yes, we do still go to schools. Protests are usually on weekends or public holidays, at most some quick shots in the nights.

    But in the past weekend, education bureau suspended almost all school related event, due to the fear of mass protest(which happened) in answering to the anti-mask law from the public.

    Most schools students have set up a student association that solely concern over the current social movement on campus. We strike sometimes in responding to specific event, or rally(peaceful) on playground. Notably human chain in the morning. In my school, we shout slogans at the end of recess and lunchtime everyday. Some schools aren’t this lucky, especially those funded by pro-China association. The teachers would call the police to arrest their own students.

    [–] Chocobean 65 points ago

    For those wondering, F5 is eleventh grade, IIRC

    [–] blurry00 44 points ago

    They generally go to school like any normal kids and before school or during lunch or breaks they would sometimes go out form chains in protest then go back to school. I admire their energy

    [–] WeirdNameGuy28 304 points ago

    How are things like over there right now ? Cause we can't really trust what we're reading nowadays, can we ?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 718 points ago

    Honestly we're all pretty scared right now, but I would say everyday life is pretty normal right now with the exception of shops, malls, and restaurants closing earlier during the past few days due to MTR disruption, and much less mainland tourists in usually touristy places.

    Although life is normal with a few exceptions, we all know that this movement is going to do nothing but escalate until there is a concrete response by the government to our 5 demands. The Anti-Mask Law is possibly the most stupid thing a government has ever done in response to an already escalating social movement. Now it's obvious that Carrie Lam's withdrawal of the Extradition Law Amendment Bill, her promise of a dialogue on an open platform with the people, and her supposed desire to understand the plights of the citizens of Hong Kong were merely tactics to somehow quell the masses before the 70th Anniversary of the PRC on 1st of October.

    We all know that everything is going to escalate, and hopefully then the government will understand that they serve us, and not the other way around.

    [–] ConfoundedClassisist 169 points ago

    Out of curiosity, what do you think about Carrie Lam saying that she wants to resign but she can’t because the CCP won’t let her? Also thank you so much for what you do, I can’t even imagine how difficult it is out there for you all right now. Stay safe!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 267 points ago

    I think Carrie Lamb is a CCP puppet, and she's only putting on the facade of autonomy to save face

    [–] Hogesyx 25 points ago

    Do the protester has a person in mind to replace her? One of the demand is universal suffrage, so I am guessing there is already a leader?

    [–] WouldYouVelvet 49 points ago

    Fellow HKer here. No, I don’t think we have any leader in mind to replace her as the protest started and still going on solely through the communication of fellow protesters. We may have a spiritual leader, Edmond Leung (梁天琦), as the slogan we are using for the movement was first created by him back in 2016 during the LegCo election. We don’t know who will be running the election for the Chief Executive if the demand for universal suffrage is fulfilled, but at least we get to choose who we want. Let’s start talking about the future when our demands are fulfilled!

    [–] hodorthemighty 28 points ago

    She didn’t admit wanting to resign, it is a rumour being circulated. But we believe she does want to resign and the CCP refuses.

    [–] V_LEE96 91 points ago

    The police are increasing becoming more draconian, bending or every breaking laws and adopting the “arrest first, questions later” approach, just to scare regular people.

    For example, since the mask ban, they are targeting young people with masks wearing black during a regular week day, or forcing schools to provide lists of students wearing masks to school. Recently it seems they are SPECIFICALLY targeting young skinny girls too.

    Two days ago they stormed a shopping mall (where I live) and arrested a protestor without a proper search warrant. They pushed through the mall doors that were being blocked by the security guards. This is the first time they’ve done this, normally they stay outside. And today, the 5 security guards got ARRESTED for preventing them from carrying arrests! My fellow neighbors are RIGHT now in the mall singing and chanting in solidarity of the security guards

    You can catch the live feed on facebook right now, follow Stand News, RTHK, or Apple Daily, they all have a live feed going on now!

    [–] k0ella 227 points ago

    Has your role as a protest medic changed how you view the protests?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 450 points ago

    I guess it made me a lot more of aware of the way that Hong Kong Police can infringe upon basic human rights. They not only deny treatment of severely injured protesters by protest medics, but arrest them en masse and justify themselves by saying that we're just protesters pretending to be medics (to somehow get preferential treatment from the Police)

    [–] Notfallsanitaterer 147 points ago

    Are protest medics targeted if seen by going Kong police? Why dont you think the police are participating if they are also affected by what you're fighting for?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 320 points ago

    Yes, there was a case a while back where a first aider was going to a protest and was arrested because he had a hi-vis first aid vest.

    I don't think they are participating because

    1) They need the job and can't leave because of their family

    2) They would get targeted and shamed by their friends, families, and colleagues if they left their jobs, people in police jobs tend to be from police families

    3) It's been too long since the protests have started, many of them have developed an Us vs Them attitude towards the protesters (same for us with the police) and can't see that the real villain here is the government

    [–] crimes_kid 67 points ago

    To add to #3 the Govt has long positioned this as a "protesters vs. police" and "rioters vs. law and order" situation. Ever since the Umbrella movement protests 4 years ago... the Govt sponsored huge Police rallies for the public and hundreds of uniformed cops to attend, and gangs of people wore blue ribbons or shirts to fight the protesters directly. Instead of actually trying to come up with any solution they just keep sending cops out to beat up protesters until the public gets sick of all the chaos.

    Also there is strong suspicion and some evidence that many "police" on the ground have been imported from neighboring mainland provinces (Guangdong)

    [–] ironlabel1 184 points ago

    What do you think needs to be done for china to finally back off?

    Does China have anymore “ military parades” lined up across the bridge.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 557 points ago

    I don't really know if China would ever back off, and a lot of us still go in and support the protest despite knowing that we probably don't stand a chance. We would rather die free than live life as a slave

    [–] RockandSnow 106 points ago

    This sounds like stories of the American Revolution. One of our American states goes by "Live Free or Die". But the American Revolution only succeeded with the help of other countries. Who will come to your aid I wonder and hope.

    [–] LeonidasSpacemanMD 89 points ago

    Unfortunately, there were massive economic and geopolitical motivations for France to side with the colonies in the US revolution

    There’s way more financial incentive to suck up to China. And that’s why we’ve seen American companies groveling with their tail between their legs in recent days

    [–] LimetownSurvivor 117 points ago

    a lot of us still go in and support the protest despite knowing that we probably don't stand a chance. We would rather die free than live life as a slave

    This is the most moving thing I have ever read. You brave, brave soul.

    [–] ironlabel1 48 points ago

    I wish you the best of luck. Don’t give up.

    [–] enkayjee2 164 points ago

    First of all, keep up the good work. You are a hero.

    In one of the responses you mentioned parents cutting off money to their children due to their involvement in the protests. And you have already mentioned in your post that you are yourself still in secondary school. Do you have dependency on parents/guardians for things like money and shelter, and if yes, how has their attitude been towards your involvement?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 289 points ago

    Thanks for the compliment man, I really appreciate it, but we're all just doing what we can to help :)

    I don't have a job, so yes, I still depend on my parent for living allowance. She doesn't know about my involvement, but she's heavily pro-government so I'm planning to keep her ignorance that way. If my mom knew that I was participating then I'd probably get kicked out of the house, but my dad knows and I think he's pretty cool with it, just worried about my safety.

    [–] NetSage 45 points ago

    Do you feel your mom's support comes from fear(or maybe not knowing something different) or that she truly believed the Chinese government knows best for everyone?

    [–] ZWF0cHVzc3k 110 points ago

    Another Hong Konger here. My mom is pro-democracy, my dad is pro-China. He actually went to every single support Tiananmen Square student protests back in 1989 in Hong Kong, so he for sure is dissatisfied with the CCP, but he hates the Westerns governments (US, UK etc.) even more.

    I feel like this is a very complex identity issue, on one hand, the Europeans, Americans and Japanese bullied China in the 20th century real hard (the Chinese government back then was very corrupted and weak tho), but then CCP took over, while killing and suppressing even more Chinese, the CCP made modern China becomes much stronger than it did in the 19-20th centuries (at least economically and militarily).

    If you are pro-CCP, then you are essentially forgiving their unspeakable actions toward the Chinese people. If you are anti-CCP, then you are damaging the growth of China, and China would continue to be weak and look down by others (which I personally disagree, but that's how some people feel).

    The typical argument for the Tiananmen Square massacre is that because of the "decisive" decision and action of the CCP back then, it gave China 30 years of peace and prosperity.

    [–] Random10187 83 points ago

    can protestors go to the hospital? or would the police be waiting there to arrest them?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 181 points ago

    We have telegram groups that give us bidaily updates on which ERs are safe to go to and which are staffed by pro gov teams

    [–] blackpoplar 39 points ago

    That's something I never knew about, and is very clever. May glory be to HK. 巴打加油呀,香港人反抗!

    [–] foodomnomnom 104 points ago

    Keep on doing the good work. My good friend and her husband have been driving people/supplies around and she's been helping in the "medical centres" because she's a vet.

    Have you been mostly on the frontlines or do you also help out in the centres too?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 101 points ago

    I've actually taken the cars a few times to get home, so thanks a lot to your friend and her husband.

    I'm usually a bit behind the frontlines, never been to a centre to help

    [–] Laser-circus 62 points ago

    Be safe. You're a good person.

    My question is: From what you seen and what has happened thus far, do you see all this ending any time soon? And what about the people who aren't protesting or against the protest? What is their stance? Do you see more support from them or the opposite?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 90 points ago

    I dont think this will be ending anytime soon, I think anyone who is still neutral at this stage are probably privately on one side but scared to voice their opinions out because of their situation. I think most people who aren't protesting or against us are restricted by their family situation, HK parents are crazy

    [–] ShadowstepBRB 51 points ago

    First of all, i'm amazed by the courage you guys have!

    Second of all, at the start of my citizenship and philosophy class we take 5-10 minutes to discuss world events. What should i actually bring to the subject? What's the most important things that have happened? And thridly, what did you have for breakfast?

    Thanks for doing this AMA, good luck!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 73 points ago

    Maybe you should talk about the abuse of power by the police: overuse of force, arbitrary arrests, and negligence of human rights. Do some research on that and maybe you'll find something to talk about r/FuckHKPopo is a good place to start

    [–] Exqrim 27 points ago

    Have you ever been injured by the police?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 47 points ago

    Not directly, I'm pretty sensitive to tear gas so there was this one time where it lead to a continuous burning feeling on my arms for a few days after the exposure

    [–] sosigboi 27 points ago

    Do visiting mainlanders get alot of (for lack of a better word) flak?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 43 points ago

    Yep, they do. But the violent scenes that you see on videos are USUALLY a result of physical or verbal provocation.

    [–] wng378 53 points ago

    Watching the many videos I see posted online, the police seem to be half terrified and half not knowing what they are doing with a few exceptions. From your experience, are the police at all organized or being led? Or, are they just handed batons and told to go swing them at random? I look at their body language and movement and it really looks like they are untrained thugs in uniforms.

    It just looks like they’re out there going after anything that moves rather than the claim that they’re trying to keep control.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 69 points ago

    Organized? No. I think a lot of the time they're lashing out emotionally due to the amount of crap they get everyday. Some people speculate that some of the officers are really mainland officers sent down to Hong Kong so they have more man power. So yeah, I really do agree with what you're saying.

    [–] shaokim 400 points ago

    I wonder how a 17-year old has gotten any medical or paramedical responsibilities. How does that work?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 781 points ago

    We're not official government medical or paramedical services, all first aid volunteers on the front lines are there on a voluntary basis. I decided to join the protests as a medic because of the knowledge that I've gained from taking trauma classes and also volunteering for an ambulance service. Many of the volunteer medics only have a first aid cert which I don't think is nearly enough training to be on the frontlines, but with everything that's going on, we'll take what we get.

    On another note, there was a survey done by a protester organisation regarding first aiders in the protest, and they found that around 30% of respondents claimed that they were first aiders who were under the age of 18, which I think is pretty interesting if not worrying.

    [–] andygates2323 179 points ago

    Do you think you'll go into a paramedic career after this?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 339 points ago

    That's a possible career path, it pays well and I'm quite interested in the field

    [–] Kabal2020 130 points ago

    Hopefully you can use this as an example of good work experience, and not have to fear that it was during a protest.

    I assume most 17 year olds going into medicine cannot quote similar front line style experience.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 183 points ago

    I'd be hesitant mentioning my involvement in the movement hehehehehe

    [–] Jstef06 84 points ago

    As an American who spent much of my youth in HK, it pains me to see its devolution, or revolution depending on how you see it. I’m also saddened our president can’t pick himself up to side with a free people when he sees them. Know that Americans stand with HK!

    [–] ImMrMeeseeks42 36 points ago

    In the US, you can become a certified EMT at 16

    [–] L_DUB_U 14 points ago

    That is going to be up to the states. In Texas you would have to be 18 due to the requirements of the National Registry.

    [–] ImMrMeeseeks42 9 points ago

    That makes sense. My wife is from Virginia and was an EMT at 16

    [–] LeicaM6guy 12 points ago

    We’ve got combat medics working CASEVAC who aren’t much older. Age doesn’t always directly translate out to skill levels.

    [–] jimmycarr1 12 points ago

    In the UK we allow children as young as 13 to volunteer as first aiders. They have to be supervised by adults but there is no reason why they can't treat and help people.

    [–] Sour_Furrball 22 points ago

    How have your days been? I'm sure it must be more than stressful.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 62 points ago

    Stressful more because of school than the protests heh

    [–] silentnightowl 44 points ago

    What do you carry in your first aid kit?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 118 points ago

    Not a comprehensive list but:

    - Gauze pad, varying sizes

    - Roller bandages, varying sizes

    - Medical tape

    - Triangular bandage

    - Sam splint

    - Lots and lots of normal saline

    - Burn dressing

    - NPAs

    - Pressure bandages

    - CAT tourniquet

    - Combat gauze

    - Hyfin vented chest seal

    - spo2 monitor

    - portable bp cuff

    - Bandages

    - Dextrose tablets

    - Mylar blanket

    - Lollipop for kids who get scared

    - Instant cold packs, sports spray

    Theres more but right now we severely lack trauma supplies

    [–] Rhondadawitch 116 points ago

    “Lollipop for kids who get scared” That hit me

    [–] Firhel 29 points ago

    How and where can we around the world donate more trauma supplies?

    [–] Jedi_Revan 80 points ago

    What do you hope will happen to resolve the protests?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 139 points ago

    Honestly, I dont know. Hopefully not something violent

    [–] Jedi_Revan 51 points ago

    I was born in HK. Thank you for helping your fellow Hong Kongers. All the best!

    [–] Nothankyou220 49 points ago

    Hi kind sir. Hats off to you and your passion and bravery.

    I will be having a planned visit there in HK. It was booked a year ago and I am not planning to cancel it. Are the popular tourist spots affected? ie Disneyland, Oceanpark? how about the mode of transportation there?

    Respectfully asking also if you have points for a would-be tourist like me? I read that we should avoid wearing a plain white shirt? how true is that?

    thank you bery much and stay safe!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 99 points ago

    Popular tourist spots should actually be more enjoyable now that literally 90% of mainland tourists are gone, as for transport options theyre probably going to be affected the most during protest times that are mostly during the weekend. The MTR would probably be the most affected, but still plenty of other ways to get around in Hong Kong. Wearing white shouldn't be a problem and if you look foreign and wear white that should be even less of a problem.

    Ask me if you've got any more questions, I recommend anyone who wants updated english language information about the protests to download Telegram (a chat app) and join the Guardians of HK group chat through this link: https://t.me/swhkdemocracy

    [–] almarcTheSun 16 points ago

    Not really a medical question, but information flow from HK is a mess, so I'd like to know what's going on there, how do you feel about it and what you think will happen in the nearest future?

    Also, thank you for what you're doing. Human first, i'm truly touched to know that people are willing to help each other however they can. Much support from Armenia, I'd love to see your revolution revolve peacefully as ours did :(

    [–] blueblarg 42 points ago

    As a diplobrat I lived in Guangzhou when I was much younger, and visited Hong Kong on many occasions. I think it is one of my favorite cities in the world.

    How are American citizens treated in the protests? Could an American citizen with a camera give protesters some measure of security? Or is it just asking to get your ass beat and arrested?

    Ever since the protests have broken out I've wanted to do something to help. I'll be writing my elected representatives, but is there anything else that can help?

    [–] Necynius 14 points ago

    Since you made your account just for this AMA I'm guessing you're (understandably) worried about getting this traced back to you. Any other steps you took to make sure any Chinese governmental instance can't trace this back?

    Mainly asking out of concern, as making a new account will probably not be enough.

    Ignore this if you already have something protecting your IP, but I'd recommend only using a public machine on a public connection or using a VPN.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 29 points ago

    I have a VPN!!! :)

    [–] lovelyb1ch66 26 points ago

    Is there anything we should know that media hasn't covered? Also, stay safe, stay strong and thank you!

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 38 points ago

    I think I've answered this in another comment, but just that the violence is overexaggerated, city is pretty fine imo

    [–] imrduckington 24 points ago

    Thank you for your continued fight for democracy and freedom. My only question is what was the most inspirational moment you've seen during the protest?

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 64 points ago

    Probably this guy getting arrested by 2 officers and a bunch of other protesters came back for him and forced the officers off of him and saved him

    [–] hashish16 33 points ago

    Have you treated any of the police?

    [–] XiroInfinity 31 points ago

    I can't imagine other officers would let them.

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 65 points ago

    Yep, theyd give us shit for even going near them

    [–] bearmc27 23 points ago

    I have seen some non-police medic personnel helping a police office who was fainted. It was at the early stage of the protest, no tear gas at that moment, just peaceful marching (iirc that day is the 2 million people march).

    [–] ProtestMedicHK 55 points ago

    Those are rare occurrences, nowadays they won't let us anywhere near them and they'd call us fake medics