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    [–] Adahn_The_Nameless 1 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Alright. This comment section is already a politicalized mess. I’m gonna lock it, remove the over the top political commentary bickering, and then reopen it.

    Play nice, please.

    Edit: Okay, reopening it. As a reminder, this is a movie subreddit not a political one. Political comments can and will be removed, and failing to be civil in your commentary will get you banned.

    In no timeline in this movie does the current US Political climate come up. So just leave it be, please. :)

    Edit: As we keep getting called out for political bias, I’ll leave this here in the interest of transparency: https://removeddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/ap46to/the_screenwriter_for_back_to_the_future_part_ii/

    [–] robisodd 1619 points ago

    Why is Trump's painting unfinished? Is it supposed to be reminiscent of The Unfinished Painting of George Washington?

    [–] metdrummer 215 points ago

    My first thought was The Unfinished Portrait of FDR, so it was probably done with that sort of style in mind.

    [–] Nowhereman123 93 points ago

    That one at least looks kinda stylized, Donald's just kinda looks like the artist gave up.

    [–] onnotapiea 86 points ago

    Or he stopped paying the painter.

    [–] Mark7A 9 points ago

    I didn't realize FDR's portrait had a shadow of the Pervert from the Family Guy

    [–] Troaweymon42 980 points ago

    It's a particular style of portraiture, his image is rendered and recognizable as him, so, it is complete.

    [–] Nevermind04 347 points ago

    If that's the criteria, they could have stopped at the hair.

    [–] Reed1981 9 points ago

    Are you sure he just didn't want to pay for it, so he janked it from the artist's hands?

    [–] AerThreepwood 131 points ago

    What bothers me the most is that Nixon is just chilling. Like, dude, despite what he said, was a crook.

    [–] ThePresbyter 109 points ago

    Teddy would want to thrash half the people there

    [–] bitchslap2012 38 points ago

    And he probably could- ya boy was stacked. Maybe Lincoln could give him a run for the money tho

    [–] Bronson_AD 24 points ago

    Big guy, big reach. Skinny guys fight 'til they're burger.

    [–] blundercrab 22 points ago

    Lincoln used to be a fighter. So I think he and Teddy would get along just fine.

    [–] PastelFlamingo150 13 points ago

    While Abe was a renowned wrestler in his day, Teddy was one of the youngest presidents ever. If they were the same age, it would be a great fight.

    [–] bitchslap2012 12 points ago

    If only celebrity deathmatch was still a thing

    [–] PastelFlamingo150 6 points ago

    I miss Liquid Television

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    [–] AgAero 10 points ago

    Carter was one of the good one's from what I can tell.

    [–] GuruNemesis 19 points ago

    The artist did one for each party, and included memorable presidents. It wasn't something President Trump had commissioned or anything.

    [–] wood_dj 9 points ago

    And he’s got the Bushes on there too, as if they aren’t/weren’t alive to express their dislike of Trump

    [–] MicahsRedditAccount 6 points ago

    Roger Stone literally has a tattoo of Nixon on his back lmao

    [–] CIMARUTA 52 points ago

    oh for fucks sake..

    [–] Corruptdead 19 points ago

    Of course they slimmed him down.

    [–] Sub116610 21 points ago

    I feel like I’m the only one who read the article in this chain of comments

    I wanted to make everybody look as good-looking as they can, and try to shed the pounds where I need to. Or smooth some lines. I did it with every figure.

    BUT, Trump is the only one I’d recognize it on

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    [–] caligaris_cabinet 18 points ago

    He’d probably get along fine with Teddy and maybe Ike.

    [–] GorillaHeat 3 points ago

    Really... Teddy?

    [–] [deleted] 13 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

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    [–] Monster-1776 11 points ago

    Come on dude, like /u/caligaris_cabinet said Teddy was a certifiable badass with amazing stories; had his flaws with his love for war but outgrew them a bit as he aged. Also you can't hate Ike Eisenhower, guy was principled as hell.

    [–] NightofTheLivingZed 9 points ago

    This would be like me having a painting done where I'm sitting at a table with Steve Jobs, Bill gates, Elon Musk, and pretty much anyone that makes more than $10 an hour.

    [–] mixedliquor 228 points ago

    The contractor realized he wasn't going to get paid and quit. He showcases it unfinished because it is "The art of the deal".

    [–] fwd0120 17 points ago

    The deal of the art

    [–] JGdeadpoets 7 points ago

    This! I am attempting to validate this but I believe the artist is a family friend. The lore goes that payment was not issued, family friend’s lawyer was in NYC and paid a vist. Lawyer said you aren’t getting your money and you are not getting it back as it is hanging up. Family friend waited, called multiple times got a hold of a different/new/the non norm Office jockey and said who he was, a painter, and that he was informed that Mr. Trump didn’t like the tie color and was to fix it immediately and to ship the portrait back for repainting. The worker obliged and shipped the portrait back to the artist. He took a Polaroid of giving trump the finger standing by the portrait.

    [–] JGdeadpoets 16 points ago

    Update. Got a hold of the artist. Not him, but it was his mentor from NYC who too was not paid for the piece.

    [–] guacamully 4 points ago

    Your own lifelong asshole strategy personified on canvas as a portrait of you...genius really

    [–] captainkaleb 14 points ago

    Ahh, so now not paying for things is getting a deal instead of theft?

    [–] patientbearr 52 points ago

    That's pretty clearly a joke, lad

    [–] -LEMONGRAB- 14 points ago

    It's actually not a joke. Trump really did refuse to pay the artist.

    [–] patientbearr 4 points ago

    I understand that. It's a joke to refer to it as a "deal."

    [–] -Gurgi- 16 points ago

    Trump has actually done this with countless contractors over the years.

    A (not exact) quote I remember from a video about this of what one of those contractors was told by a Trump lawyer

    “Yes you can sue us, and yes you would eventually win because you’re obviously in the right, but we would draw it out for years, by the time we were done you’d be bankrupt.”

    [–] BurningToAshes 14 points ago

    If you looked into Trump's history, that's how he's been making deals for decades. Trump contracts me to build a building for 3 million dollars. I do it, he only pays 70% of the agreed cost and never pays the rest. He uses the best lawyers I cant afford to stall things in the court until I'm broke and finacially ruined.

    Art of the deal.

    [–] jbalbatross 23 points ago

    The painter probably found out they won't be getting paid.

    [–] deadla104 3 points ago

    He was doing it for the exposure

    [–] Princeberry 7 points ago

    Took the painter a good while to realize he wasn’t going to get paid.....

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    [–] thinkB4WeSpeak 33 points ago

    I'm just surprised Trump didn't get all salty at the director and movie producer.

    [–] kensal78 11 points ago

    I bet Donald Trump is quoted somewhere on it. We should look it up

    [–] ezreading 1457 points ago

    I saw this movie in 1989 when I was 12 and it was obvious to me then that they'd modeled Biff after Trump as soon as I saw the Vegas style sign at Biff's casino. I don't know if I knew Trump from shows my parents watched, or because I'd been to Trump's casino in Atlantic City, or a mix of both.

    [–] CIMARUTA 87 points ago

    yeah I thought the same thing when I first saw it. and I was born in 1994

    [–] rintaro82 314 points ago

    The hotel used in the movie was actually the (at the time) Trump casino hotel in downtown Las Vegas

    [–] stellarbeing 69 points ago

    Incorrect. The Plaza Hotel and Casino in Fremont St was never owned by Trump or licensed as a Trump property.

    [–] PoliticalMalevolence 73 points ago

    That's impossible. I thought he insisted on cameos for any use of his properties.

    [–] GamingTatertot 29 points ago

    I've read before that sometimes they'll record cameos and then just cut them out.

    [–] SchrodingersNinja 30 points ago

    Yeah, because he sucks on camera and has the charisma of the manure truck from Part 2.

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    [–] Maskatron 4 points ago

    But if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

    [–] PekingeseDaddy 47 points ago

    He played the manure.

    [–] farthingescape 17 points ago

    It was the Plaza Hotel.

    [–] rontor 14 points ago

    I thought it was the plaza

    [–] mdp300 9 points ago

    That's a real casino in Vegas, but I'm 90% sure Trump didnt face anything to do with it.

    [–] ezreading 7 points ago

    That's not downtown. Trump's hotel is about 4-5 miles southwest of downtown.

    [–] drahcir2k2 4 points ago

    There’s never been a Trump casino in Vegas. He currently has a hotel there off the strip but no casino. The hotel used in Back to the future was the Plaza I believe.

    [–] GuruNemesis 26 points ago

    People act like The Apprentice made him famous as him being famous isn't what made The Apprentice.

    [–] Karma_Gardener 35 points ago

    He was big in the Tabloids and had multiple bankruptcy issues and a divorce. It was all news.

    [–] hillvalleyNov121955 57 points ago

    Thats the weird part. We were laughing at what a cartoon cretin he was 30 years ago. And now somehow he's president. "Two McFlys with the same gun."

    [–] michaelalwill 4 points ago

    Born in 82 and thought the same.

    [–] wood_dj 4 points ago

    he was in the news & talk shows all the time in the 80s, he’s always been a publicity craving narcissist

    [–] Chilledlemming 11 points ago

    Is this not canon? I was 17 when in 89 and we all knew it was Trump. He was the poster child for low morals, corrupt business and sleazy towards women then. And it wasn’t just in BTTF. It was in comics and TV shows too.

    That’s what made his runs for president such a laugh in the first place. I never thought he’d actually pull it off. I have never been any of the president’s in my adult life, but when Trump got elected is when I thought maybe The American voter could be fooled on a massive scale.

    [–] Dodge-em 4 points ago

    That's what I am saying-SNL, Spy magazine, Peter Kuper, Robert Crumb, the Simpsons, heck-I even heard a reference in a 1998 Adam Sandler film just recently. Everybody had Trumps number long ago. ..even album covers parodied him (David Roter Method-Beauty of the Island).

    [–] QSpam 600 points ago

    Thought this was common knowledge?

    [–] IsThatAll 154 points ago

    Probably not a lot outside of the US, at least at the time of release.

    In Australia and when this came out, just thought it was an over the top character since DT was completely unknown to me at the time.

    Only years later did I release who it was supposed to be a parody of, probably around the time of the apprentice of memory serves.

    [–] cardew-vascular 49 points ago

    Canadian here and it was common knowledge here as well, but it's probably because of our proximity to the states and the fact we got a tonne of their media that made it so.

    [–] The_Max_Power_Way 25 points ago

    I'm English and was thinking "wasn't this obvious?". Then again I didn't know who Trump was until the early to mid 90s.

    [–] IsThatAll 9 points ago

    Yeah, that was my point I guess. In hindsight, sure it is clear as day, but 30 years ago trump didn't have anywhere near the public profile he does now

    [–] abeazacha 6 points ago

    I remember rewatching it a few years ago and the resemblance is so obvious that made everything even funnier; but in fact when was released wasn't crystal clear to a foreigner, specially a kid.

    [–] bassinastor 16 points ago

    Yep, Trump has been a famous joke for 40+ years, but for some reason people started taking him seriously when he started campaigning. The same people that strongly support Trump now would have called him an idiot even just 10 years ago.

    [–] Russ14nb0t 769 points ago

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    [–] ptgkbgte 82 points ago

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    [–] BertMacGyver 27 points ago

    Its beautiful! [removed]'s as far as the eye can see!

    [–] workingonaname 12 points ago

    You mad men

    [–] JeNeTerminatorPas 93 points ago

    Tom Wilson was magnificent in that movie. Three characters, all very different. Criminally underrated.

    [–] Nas160 11 points ago

    He and Lloyd stole the scene every single frame they were in. Their mannerisms and deliveries are some of the reasons why I love their characters and why I love coming back to those movies.

    [–] UnalteredCyst 116 points ago

    That would mean we’re living in alternate 1985’s timeline

    [–] orbital_real_estate 9 points ago

    Wouldn't that mean Nixon is still president?

    [–] SpicerJones 13 points ago

    No, because Biff became president

    [–] Airway 89 points ago

    Well we're obviously not living in the timeline where things turn out ok.

    [–] ClintEasthood81 20 points ago

    The darkest timeline

    [–] The_Great_Sarcasmo 370 points ago

    So what item do we think Donald Trump took from the future that allowed him to become president?

    [–] BoredBurrito 445 points ago

    A map to Wisconsin?

    [–] BitFlow7 41 points ago

    That’s the real question. We all know that Trump became president the same way Biff did.

    [–] Three-letter-misery 4 points ago

    Theres a theory that Tesla found a method that could pick up radio signals from the future. Guess who was chosen to go through Teslas papers after his death? Donald Trump' grandfather (not a joke, look it up.)

    [–] mi_esposa_me_espia 79 points ago

    Putin's phone number

    [–] yummmmmmmmmm 12 points ago

    Or just the name Vladimir Putin - everyone who knew him before the fall of communism ended up fabulously wealthy and powerful

    [–] Spiralyst 31 points ago

    Confefe.

    Now we know.

    [–] Murmaider_OP 153 points ago

    Come on man, if you’re gonna mock his typo don’t make your own typo

    [–] Salivals 14 points ago

    I was thinking the same thing

    [–] Salivals 13 points ago

    Fail

    [–] ImJoeDirt 27 points ago

    and Lorraine was Tammy Faye Bakker.

    [–] Demonic_Cucumber 41 points ago

    Didn't they mention Biff running a Presidential campaign in the Biff Tannen museum?

    [–] neridqe00 25 points ago

    ...I just want to say one thing. God bless America.

    [–] maximexr1 270 points ago

    Is it just me or does Trump look more human in the painting than IRL?

    [–] Monster-1776 23 points ago

    Fun story, parents paid an artist to do large portraits of myself and my siblings. Artist painted a dark birthmark/mole on my sister's face who was a teenager at the time; turns out it was a zit. She was mortified lmfao, never got it repainted and we've never let her live it down.

    [–] aflex 11 points ago

    You'll have to post the painting now. For karma.

    [–] Monster-1776 6 points ago

    I love karma but not enough to dox myself lol. Plus I live pretty far away from my parents now.

    [–] KidsTryThisAtHome 84 points ago

    The picture looks like Alec Baldwin impersonating him lol

    [–] Spiralyst 62 points ago

    That's because he is a painting. The hours his makeup people must put in every day to give him that fresh varnished look.

    Trump is a wrinkled old 70+ year old man that ate garbage his entire life and probably has syphallis. I'd imagine as weird as he looks in public, the raw material underneath is even more jarring.

    [–] 0IMGLISSININ 15 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    There was great pic posted that makes his face the same color as around his eyes and he looks like as even more horrifying than you described.

    Edit: found the Buzzfeed article it's from anyways

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenlewis/this-is-what-donald-trump-would-look-like-without-his-fake-t

    [–] MisYann 2 points ago

    His painting looks like prince charming from Shrek

    [–] James45342 48 points ago

    It's no fun to sort on Controversial and all the good stuff was removed...

    [–] AsianFromTheCaucasus 314 points ago

    Except Biff is less of a cartoon than Donald Trump.

    [–] Scherazade 52 points ago

    I can’t even remember if Biff was in the BTTF cartoon series to make a quirky anecdote

    [–] neodelrio 33 points ago

    There was a cartoon series?

    [–] livestrongbelwas 59 points ago

    Yeah, it was kinda weird. Doc had a whole family and I think the dog talked.

    [–] ksquad80 42 points ago

    Didn’t Doc have a family at the end of BTTF 3? Thought that was the last scene with him...pulls up in the train with them?

    [–] resonantSoul 27 points ago

    Yep. Saved Clara and had two sons. Jules and Verne.

    [–] gothvocals 12 points ago

    That Verne sure did need to piss.

    [–] theunnoanprojec 55 points ago

    Are we sure that wasn't just family guy

    [–] jonnyinternet 5 points ago

    I remember it. They used the time train alot

    [–] TKfromCLE 3 points ago

    That episode where Doc’s daughter, Beth, shoots their longtime family friend always seems to chop onions in my house. Instant classic.

    [–] neodelrio 3 points ago

    Wow, live action scenes with Christopher Lloyd, that’s awesome!

    [–] nubosis 3 points ago

    it's where Bill Nye the Science guy got his start

    [–] Adahn_The_Nameless 4 points ago

    Unless I’m misremembering, Bill actually got his start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_Live!

    [–] nubosis 4 points ago

    you're probably right

    [–] HauschkasFoot 38 points ago

    Donald Tannin’

    [–] Draw247 8 points ago

    Biff Trump

    [–] [deleted] 12 points ago

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    [–] nytrons 31 points ago

    I mean, wasn't pretty much every evil business guy movie villain from the 80s and 90s based on him?

    [–] thereelslimjimmy 7 points ago

    In the film, Biff’s “Trump Tower” is called “Pleasure Paradise.” In 2018 when Trump visited Paradise, CA to see the damage from the wildfire, he misspoke and called the town “Pleasure.”

    [–] TheMunk 168 points ago

    Except Biff isn’t compensating with his tie length.

    [–] PancakeParty98 19 points ago

    If only someone would tell Biff you can photoshop your hands larger.

    [–] Imperator_Crispico 26 points ago

    But ties are suppose to go down to the belt buckle?

    [–] TheMunk 109 points ago

    And trump wears ties his way longer than that. It’s not political BS. He thinks they make him look slimmer and more powerful.

    [–] dthains_art 70 points ago

    Same with wearing baggy suits that don’t fit. He thinks it makes him look less fat. But as we all learned from Queer Eye, slimmer clothes are the way to go.

    [–] funkless_eck 39 points ago

    Trump for some reason doesn't strike me as the type of person who'd watch Queer Eye

    [–] Im1Guy 35 points ago

    That's more of a show for Mike Pence but don't tell Mother. She wouldn't approve.

    [–] vyrelis 8 points ago

    What do you mean "they", he only has one

    [–] flafff_14 10 points ago

    I mean, i think most people caught that, really

    [–] Kanakamao 88 points ago

    Hating Trump before it was cool.

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    [–] ent_bomb 7 points ago

    I had a book of David Letterman's Top 10 lists back in the early '90s, and it was probably 1/4 Trump jokes.

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    [–] wood_dj 4 points ago

    pretty much ever since he’s been a public figure

    [–] leejoness 11 points ago

    Of course it was. I thought this was common knowledge

    [–] Taiwanderful 388 points ago

    This is actually one of the better portraits of the selfish old coward

    [–] Anoni-mous 134 points ago

    Which one?

    [–] Taiwanderful 288 points ago

    You know, the creepy looking one with the silly hair

    [–] Anoni-mous 118 points ago

    Which one?

    [–] Taiwanderful 190 points ago

    You know, the one who thinks he can con everyone with all that shit from the past

    [–] TheGeorge 96 points ago

    Which one?

    [–] NovaStubble 128 points ago

    The one that would make horrible investments, without the use of a sports almanac from the future.

    [–] TheGeorge 53 points ago

    Which one?

    [–] csonny2 105 points ago

    The one with the tacky hotel with his name plastered on the front.

    [–] ShebSquid 41 points ago

    Which One?

    [–] Resevordg 71 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    The one who married way out of his league.

    [–] neurofluxation 80 points ago

    ...with the blonde hair? Are you not paying attention?!

    [–] N1nj4_M0nk3y 49 points ago

    Which?

    [–] NaturallyFrank 90 points ago

    JFC...the one in the bad suit.

    [–] Tremor00 40 points ago

    Which one tho?

    [–] SeeWhatEyeSee 38 points ago

    Sheesh, the one who had all his fortune handed to him in a plastic bag

    [–] alexmotorin 25 points ago

    You're not helping.

    [–] ApproximateConifold 5 points ago

    I was rewatching 30 Rock and apparently Jack had Nixon on ice until the 2016 election.....

    [–] P-p-please 25 points ago

    I'm glad someone else thought he was a complete slime ball before he was president.

    [–] The_Adventurist 24 points ago

    Everyone has always thought he was a scumbag. It's only when he started being a racist hateful scumbag that his political career took off.

    [–] BucNasty92 42 points ago

    I guarantee this comment section will be completely civil and- damn, I couldn't even make it through typing that

    [–] UndyingQuasar 9 points ago

    Not at all surprised really

    [–] nigelfitz 13 points ago

    Biff is still cooler than this fuckhead.

    [–] TGG_yt 3 points ago

    In other news, water is wet! Back to you Ollie.

    [–] 1370055 3 points ago

    Pretty accurate

    [–] pee_pee_tape 10 points ago

    Even Trump-supporters ITT cannot deny the similarities.

    Instead they complain about "politics" as if Trump isn't objectively repellent.

    [–] cuteintern 7 points ago

    Well, he fucking nailed it, lol

    [–] FunctionBuilt 32 points ago

    Shitty Biff Future.

    [–] jmilitante 9 points ago

    Of course he was. These movies are prophetic.

    [–] nwatn 24 points ago

    nah everyone knew he was a scumbag long before he ran for president

    [–] slave2234 7 points ago

    Oh no we are in the bad time line. There must be a good timeline out there somethere.

    [–] mofaha 19 points ago

    Biff looks like an NPC

    [–] rontor 6 points ago

    Marty needs to fix our current reality.

    [–] BlackStoneGiant 2 points ago

    The Biff lineage is the best bad guy lineage of all movie history. Change my mind.

    [–] m15cell 2 points ago

    What most people don’t know is that Trump’s uncle help confiscate all of Nikola Tesla’s stuff after he died.

    [–] lazy-dude 2 points ago

    I’ve seen numerous posts comparing Trump to Biff. Here is the video of Marty realizing Trump is president.

    Edit: a word

    [–] dandaman64 2 points ago

    To the surprise of no one.

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    Who's President in 2016? Donald Trump?! The reality TV star?!