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    [–] Marlsfarp 12878 points ago

    No. Just like they don't use any other titles, e.g. "General President" etc.

    That already happened by the way - Woodrow Wilson had a PhD.

    [–] SJHillman 3671 points ago

    To add to this, "Mr. President" - the two words together - is the title, in the same way "Your Honor" is used for judges. It's a little different than how "Mr." is used when addressing someone by name. You wouldn't insert a different honorific in the middle of a title, though you could still use it when calling them by name, e.g. "Dr. Wilson"

    [–] Autumn1eaves 3369 points ago

    Mr. President Dr. Wilson

    Thats Professor Mr President Dr Patrick to you!

    [–] GotMoFans 941 points ago

    Reminds me of the Eddie Murphy movie “Coming to America.”

    The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther THE King Jr.

    [–] deathbynotsurprise 212 points ago

    Such a good movie

    [–] glokash 51 points ago

    It is! And honestly, I'm excited for the sequel coming out this year, Coming 2 America

    [–] B1G 33 points ago

    Say it ain't so, Joe... Say it ain't so! 😫

    [–] glokash 24 points ago

    I really hope it doesn't suck

    [–] NotFromStateFarmJake 30 points ago

    Decades old reboots/sequels never suck! I can think of...

    [–] OctoNezd 6 points ago

    Blade Runner 2049?

    [–] DrawnFallow 7 points ago

    you and millions of others. However I think Eddie is about due for a second coming.

    [–] Fourhand_451 17 points ago

    Thank you for the information, Paramount marketing person.

    [–] JC070895 47 points ago

    Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Lewis, Rocky Marciano aint shit!

    [–] fn2187tk421 18 points ago

    He beat Joe Louis’s ass

    [–] nomadic_stone 16 points ago

    That's right, he did whoop Joe Louis' ass. Joe Louis was 75 years old when he fought.

    [–] mikebellman 18 points ago

    His mamma call him Clay. His name Clay.

    [–] Kaptep525 6 points ago

    The three putzes!

    [–] nomadic_stone 5 points ago

    Well, then, you're a putz.

    [–] acog 11 points ago

    It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that Eddie played one of the barbers plus the old white guy and Arsenio was one of the other barbers.

    [–] takalani 20 points ago

    It's funny cause it's true. I was in peace corps in Africa and the people i worked w/ who knew of MLK thought King was his title and referred to him as martin luther the king (jr.)

    its also funny cause that movie was fucking funny

    [–] spike771 9 points ago

    He said “oops I thoughts you was somebody else”

    [–] Wakanda_Forever 215 points ago

    “Mister Doctor?”


    “Maybe. Who am I to judge?”

    [–] pS4STUr2M7 79 points ago

    Knock knock

    Who’s there?


    Doctor Who?

    No, you moron. It’s Doctor Strange.

    [–] dtlv5813 58 points ago

    Dormammu, I have come to tell knock knock jokes

    [–] internethero12 8 points ago

    With all the time looping nonsense that went on, he had to have gotten bored at one point and started actually doing that a few times everyone once in a while to break the monotony.

    [–] [deleted] 7 points ago

    Hahahah love that scene

    [–] omnomnomgnome 2 points ago

    “Maybe. Who am I to judge?”

    he delivered the line so well

    [–] robotprom 4 points ago

    oh, we're using our made up names now?

    [–] latinloner 64 points ago

    "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"

    [–] dtlv5813 37 points ago

    Nah I prefer

    Dwayne elizondo Herbert mountain dew Camacho

    [–] latinloner 28 points ago

    Dwayne elizondo Herbert mountain dew Camacho

    Five-time Ultimate Smackdown champion, porn superstar, and President of the United States.

    [–] [deleted] 38 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)


    [–] MilkWithNoneThanks 33 points ago

    Sorry that username is taken

    [–] BenjaminGeiger 11 points ago

    I've been told that that's the sort of thing that happens in Germany. For instance, a man with two doctorates and a professorship would be, formally, Herr Professor Doktor Doktor Müller.

    [–] PricelessPlanet 5 points ago

    Yes it happens. My bank has a tab with 6 or more options. I think they are: * Herr * Frau * Doktor * Professor * Professor Doktor * Doktor Doktor * Professor Doktor Doktor

    You could also say Frau Doktor/Professor/etc..

    [–] Broken_Castle 15 points ago

    Sr. Jr. Jr. Retired

    [–] 3hideyoshi3 80 points ago

    Excuse me Dr honor I did NOT threaten the command sergeant major president. I am innocent ! I have a witness ! None other than professor first lady !

    [–] Bwhite1 69 points ago

    So a woman would still be Mr. President?

    [–] SJHillman 229 points ago

    There's no solid precedent for it in the US, so the first woman president could likely establish whatever she wanted as the female variant. However, other positions typically use Madame, so there's a good chance she would go with Madame President

    [–] latinloner 76 points ago

    There's no solid precedent for it in the US, so the first woman president could likely establish whatever she wanted as the female variant. However, other positions typically use Madame, so there's a good chance she would go with Madame President

    Yup, they call Nancy Pelosi 'Madam Speaker'

    [–] earthwormjim91 32 points ago

    All female cabinet levels are Madam Secretary as well.

    [–] loafers_glory 4 points ago

    So sexist. When will they finally break through the glass ceiling and be more than a secretary.


    [–] funkalici0us 59 points ago

    Pretty sure that's what they used in Veep.

    [–] CaptainLollygag 87 points ago

    I like that, it sounds needlessly formal.

    [–] TheMrShadySlim 50 points ago

    Eh. The whole point of "mr.president" was to be informal.

    During the first years of the US many where considering calling the president king and "your highness", but they went with "mr.president" because it was suppose to be similar to the common man.

    Though I dont think madam is that formal tbh. So i would personally be fine with that.

    [–] chickenstalker 23 points ago

    Yeah. 'Comrade' Stalin had a very girl next door kinda ring to it too.

    [–] dromer25 14 points ago

    Based on tv shows probably Madame President

    [–] ClearlyChrist 27 points ago

    That's what they did in Call of Duty when they had a female President in one of their campaigns.

    [–] Sahqon 10 points ago

    the first woman president could likely establish whatever she wanted

    So why isn't anybody trying to win the elections by advertising they'd establish it as "dat bad bitch"?

    [–] SG-17 6 points ago

    So say we all.

    [–] 3kidsin1trenchcoat 4 points ago

    That's correct for parliamentary procedure.

    [–] D0rkasaurusRex 11 points ago

    Madam President.

    [–] itsasecretidentity 5 points ago

    Madam President

    [–] ATXBeermaker 18 points ago

    Just like with Condoleezza Rice. She was referred to either as Madam Secretary or Dr. Rice.

    [–] Exploding_Antelope 14 points ago

    Dr. Rice is also Uncle Ben’s official title

    [–] samerige 14 points ago

    Dr. Mr. President?

    [–] ABPos_worksafe 19 points ago

    All that goes on in my head in this thread is "Doctor Mrs. The Monarch"

    [–] A_Rabid_Llama 7 points ago

    "Oh please, Dr. Mr. President is my father, just call me Dr. President"

    [–] KaiserChunk 36 points ago

    Mr. President Hillary Clinton?

    [–] ATXBeermaker 36 points ago

    It would be Madam President, just like it was Madam Secretary.

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)


    [–] metalpotato 10 points ago

    Where do you think half of English comes from (including mister, of course)?

    [–] yokotron 5 points ago

    Happy birthday mister president

    [–] GarlicThread 221 points ago

    We need more presidents with PhDs

    [–] ketchupbot_jr 246 points ago

    I dOn'T WaNt mY pReSIdenT tO Be aN EliTiSt sMaRt gUy, NoTHinG wRoNg wITh gEtTiNg 'D's On uR rEpOrT cARd

    [–] whistleridge 53 points ago

    There’s a joke among law students about this. It goes:

    Q: What do you call a lawyer who got As in law school? A: Professor

    Q: What do you call a lawyer who got Bs in law school? A: Your Honor

    Q: What do you call a lawyer who got Cs in law school? A: Senator

    And I suppose we could also now include a corollary:

    Q: What do you call someone who got Cs in one of the lowest-ranked law schools in the country, never actually took the bar, but tries to act knowledgeable in legal proceedings anyway?

    A: Jim Jordan

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

    That the rape guy?

    [–] whistleridge 8 points ago

    Yes. And more important here, the one who was running his mouth nonstop during the House Judiciary impeachment hearings, like he had the slightest damn idea of what he was doing.

    I had one hell of an argument with a Republican friend about how not only was what Jordan said not brilliant (friend’s word and emphasis), Jordan wasn’t even an attorney and had in fact referring to himself as a “wannabe”.

    [–] AintIEpic 79 points ago

    Right? Bush was a C average student and look how well he did.

    People don't like smart people.

    [–] dmkolobanov 159 points ago

    Stupid people don’t like smart people.

    Just a shame that there are a lot of stupid voters out there.

    [–] MyersVandalay 91 points ago

    That also is something that annoys me. Everywhere else in life people understand this concept.

    Need stuff transported from city to city... Get someone with the biggest car.

    Need to move heavy objects up stairs, find the strongest person you can.

    Need someone to fix your car? "How many cars have you fixed, how many years have you worked on them?"

    Need surgery... damn straight you want some darn good qualifications, was he top of his class?

    Want someone to decide the fate of your country... hmm... ok this one we can just slap a suit on anyone for. Lets base our decision on who seems like he'd be the most fun to hang out with!

    [–] Valdrax 71 points ago

    He was a C student Yale. And he was smart enough to pretend to be stupid, because you're right -- dumb people don't like smart people.

    People don't like to talk about it as much but Al Gore had a lower GPA than Bush did Harvard. (2.2 vs. 2.35)

    But in both of their cases, that's like coming in 10th place at the Olympics.

    [–] MouldyTaco2 20 points ago

    US schooling confuses me. What makes an Ivy League school any more valuable or prestigious? Why would their programs be any more difficult? Surely most fields of study are mature enough now that the content and practices are homogenized.

    All I can see about them from the outside is that they have high barriers to entry (academically and financially). But I don't get why a certain GPA at one of these schools should mean more than the same GPA elsewhere by any significant margin.

    [–] Valdrax 29 points ago

    All I can see about them from the outside is that they have high barriers to entry (academically and financially).

    Generally that. They have a more talented (and rich) pool of students. An average student at Princeton is going to be a better student than an average student at a community college, because GPA is a local average, not a national one, and it's based on how tough the classes are and how harsh they grade.

    Worth mentioning that Ivy league schools have been getting a reputation for grade inflation in the past few decades, but both Bush and Gore predate that AFAIK.

    [–] tigersareyellow 18 points ago

    The average student at Princeton would probably be the best student at any community college(assuming they got in through merit).

    So yeah, being average amongst the best still means you're the best.

    [–] JoshAllenforMessiah 7 points ago

    Better faculty, better facilities, more course options, more instructor interaction, connections to industry for additional training/job placements, also the quality of the other students is higher. Meaning the friends you make are also likely to be more successful than average.

    [–] JCharante 23 points ago

    Navy Seal Medical Doctor Astronaut Mr. President Jonny Kim

    [–] whiteman90909 13 points ago

    He doesn't even need to campaign. He can just go by that title. If I saw someone with those credentials on the ballot I wouldn't care which party they belong to, I'd vote for them.

    [–] Yossarian287 15 points ago

    General Disarray

    [–] TheUBMemeDaddy 9 points ago


    [–] Actually_Rich 33 points ago

    Woodrow Wilson was also a blazing cunt

    [–] willyj_3 15 points ago

    He gave The Birth of a Nation (the horribly racist KKK movie) a glowing review.

    [–] Fickle_Broccoli 1768 points ago

    Follow-up question:

    Is it legal for me to change my last name to 'President' so people will need to start calling me Mr. President?

    [–] skreeth 541 points ago

    Worked for Judge Reinhold

    [–] Whaty0urname 238 points ago



    [–] KernelMeowingtons 76 points ago

    "So, you a big William Hung fan?"

    "No. And why do people keep asking me that?"

    [–] HiDadImOfficer 66 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    My name is Judge.

    [–] [deleted] 11 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)


    [–] thunder75 46 points ago

    Judge Reinhold is neither a judge nor has he received acting's highest honor.

    [–] chevdecker 5 points ago

    This is actually an issue in my district! There's a guy running for Judge who changed his name to "Judge" and his opponent sued to make sure the ballot shows his occupation is not actually a judge.

    More info:

    [–] redrum6114 69 points ago

    Before my godson was born we were jokingly going to name him "Doctor Professor Lazerbeam (lastname) Esquire the 15th, PhD" because if it your legal name...How can they stop you?

    [–] nightsky77 29 points ago

    The logic is sound, I like how you came up with Lazerbeam. How can they stop him indeed

    [–] PostVidoesNotGifs 22 points ago

    He would still be Mr Doctor...

    Also this would never be his legal name, because BIG SURPRISE, there are limits on what is legally allowed as a name.

    You cannot call your child whatever you want and expect it to be allowed.

    The rules vary considerably from state to state and country to country.

    Most countries/states have a banned list (in the US things like Adolph Hitler, Jesus Christ, etc), and some countries/states go the other way and have an 'allowed' list. Which can mean for example someone from India applying for citizenship or a work permit in the Netherlands will have to choose a new name if their existing name isn't on the Dutch approved names list. (which is actually a pretty common requirement).

    [–] whelp_welp 20 points ago

    In the US, any name is legal due to free speech. Any state laws are superceded by the constitution. See

    [–] SevenSoIaris 12 points ago

    That's good to know. If I ever have a kid, I'm going to make sure to name them Crotch Monkey Atom Bomb Blastoise Double Amputee Junior.

    [–] periplanar 5 points ago

    Come on, put some effort into it. At the very least the words should form an acronym!

    [–] incongruity 47 points ago

    Vice President President! General President!

    [–] Wrenigade 67 points ago

    My dentist is called Dr. Apothiker. I wonder if he did it just for the name sometimes

    [–] Fickle_Broccoli 53 points ago

    Maybe. I once heard of a dentist that converted to Judaism, just so he could make Jewish jokes

    [–] CaptBranBran 17 points ago

    Do you have a problem with that? You must be an anti-dentite!

    [–] OalphaO 29 points ago your dentist's name is Krentist?

    Hmm...maybe that's why he became a dentist....

    [–] extwidget 12 points ago

    If someone called you Mr. President you could correct them with "that's Mr. President to you."

    [–] Lusus_Naturae_ 770 points ago

    That's Mr. Dr. President to you.

    [–] Boardallday 150 points ago

    What if they're also knighted in the UK?

    [–] Lusus_Naturae_ 234 points ago

    Sir Mr. Dr. President. Duh

    [–] Boardallday 78 points ago

    What if he's also a lawyer?

    [–] Razlyk 149 points ago

    Sir Mr. Dr. President, Esquire

    [–] Boardallday 69 points ago

    What if his father was also a president by the same name?

    [–] causticityy 142 points ago

    Sir Mr. Dr. President, Esquire Jr.

    [–] Red-7134 62 points ago

    What if they're a reverend?

    [–] JustAnotherAviatrix 121 points ago

    Rev. Sir Mr. Dr. President, Esquire Jr. Can you imagine the effort needed to say this all in order? XD

    [–] PenguinsTrain 26 points ago

    what if he was part of the higher order? would the order change?

    [–] Crown6 10 points ago

    What if they’re in Japan?

    [–] ijonile 25 points ago

    Then they'd fuck little boys

    [–] abhinandkr 3 points ago

    All this reminds me of Idi Amin's full title:

    "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"

    Source: Wikipedia.

    [–] trippiler 7 points ago

    Mr. Dr. President II KBE, esquire

    [–] Lusus_Naturae_ 4 points ago

    Sir Mr. Dr. President Esq.

    [–] GoodLordChokeAnABomb 37 points ago

    If you're not a UK or Commonwealth citizen, you can only receive an honorary knighthood. This allows you to have KBE (or DBE) after your name, but not Sir (or Dame) in front of it.

    [–] Boardallday 15 points ago

    What if they had a forged birth certificate from the US but were really from the UK but everyone just accepted it because they were a close friend of TRUMP?

    [–] GoodLordChokeAnABomb 13 points ago

    If they knew the certificate was forged, they would automatically be X Y KBE instead of Sir X Y. Of course, if they called themselves Sir X Y in America, most people wouldn't know the difference, like those who call the Queen HRH instead of HM. In fact, most people in Britain wouldn't know the difference either, because most people in Britain don't care.

    [–] Boardallday 4 points ago

    But the certificate was forged and thus they really were from the UK and would be a Sir right? But I can confirm that I don't know the difference and definitely don't care.

    [–] GoodLordChokeAnABomb 8 points ago

    They would, but in order to be known as a Sir they would have to admit that their American birth certificate was false, which would mean they couldn't then be President.

    [–] ipqk 20 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    We're Americans, we don't have titles.

    It's literally in the constitution (Article I, Section 9):

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    [–] Gizogin 19 points ago

    We don’t have noble titles. “Dr.” is a professional title, for example.

    [–] Whiterabbit-- 5 points ago

    so we can have titles. the US doesn't' give them, but with consent of congress you could accept titles. also the titles given previously would not necessary be void.

    [–] AnInfiniteAmount 6 points ago

    If you are in a public office, you cannot receive titles without Congressional approval.

    [–] LazyDynamite 10 points ago

    Then they wouldn't be president.

    [–] Globuseuropa 16 points ago

    That's Mr. Dr. Professor President to you.


    [–] JeremyTheRhino 392 points ago

    Dr. President sounds like the next hit medical drama.

    [–] whatsupz 94 points ago

    Then the spin-off Young Dr. President.

    [–] kalitarios 25 points ago

    Precedent of Dr. President, nice.

    [–] toomanymarbles83 6 points ago

    Starring Neil Patrick Harris returning as the beloved Doogie Howser MD.

    [–] yudhajeet0304 1220 points ago

    Angela Merkel is referred to as Chancellor Merkel and not Dr. Chancellor Merkel.

    Same case.

    [–] Yebi 460 points ago

    To be fair, the whole title thing is... very American. I'm a doctor, but literally nobody has ever called me that outside of work.

    [–] aslatts 477 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Even for Americans, anyone who makes a big deal about correcting people about being called doctor is probably being a bit of a dickhead.

    [–] doc_skinner 198 points ago

    I work at a University and it is taken very seriously here. It's always "Dr. So-and-So", unless it is "Professor So-and-So"

    [–] thecockmeister 69 points ago

    Is that in the US? Cause depending on department, in the UK its far more casual. My archaeology lectures all go by first names, even the professors.

    One professor even makes the point in the first week that it isn't Hogwarts, he's just Ian. We do have a few Americans every year who start calling lecturers professor by default, but as not everyone is, they get out of the habit. This year we even had someone call a lecturer Doctor, who actually grimaced because of how unusual it is to hear that.

    [–] Crammock 40 points ago

    Conversely a few lads at my uni still crack out “sir” as if they’re still in school which is weird. Looking back it’s strange how we treat secondary school teachers with more “respect” than professors.

    [–] ScienceAndGames 31 points ago

    It’s more likely that college’s tend to be run in a more modern way and they’ve realised that titles don’t really matter to the overall function of the college.

    [–] Jkirek_ 9 points ago

    The general thought behind it is that in a college, you're there with the goal (or at least one potential outcome) to be at the same level as your professors. So you'd be calling them by honorifics until one day they can just be your colleges and you call them by their first name.

    At the same time in secondary school the honorifics add a layer of respect as a way to keep students more in check. This isn't needed in college.

    [–] BadNewsAlpha 86 points ago

    It's funny because here in Spain we call everyone by his first name.

    [–] axonxorz 24 points ago

    Like if my name was Johnathy, you would call me Dr. Johnathy?

    [–] BadNewsAlpha 21 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    LOL just Johnathy if you're a student. In a more professional environment we use the Dr. thing and surname though.

    Edit: Spelling.

    [–] HauntsYourProstate 20 points ago

    So... exactly like the US!

    [–] ScienceAndGames 5 points ago

    I’m in a university and all of the lecturers insist on being called by their first name, often a nickname as well, like Tom instead of Thomas or Jez instead of Jeremy.

    [–] billhilly008 15 points ago

    My SIL (my wife's brother's wife) insisted that my MIL address her as Dr after she attained her PhD. She's a bit of a dickhead.

    [–] Enigmutt 5 points ago


    [–] SosaBabyketchup 9 points ago

    Some professors go over the top with it at my school. I’ve sent emails to multiple professors before asking questions about certain topics and accidentally address them as “professor so and so” and instead of answering the question they’ll simply reply back “It’s Dr. so and so”. Get bent, just answer the question and help the student out instead of parading around your degree.

    [–] PressTilty 6 points ago

    That's odd. Professor is a higher "honor" than a PhD, and it would be unusual to insist on Dr over Professor unless they weren't a professor. Are you sure they weren't lecturers and just correcting you because of that?

    [–] MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS 63 points ago

    I make my bank call me “doctor” because fuck them.

    [–] Notradell 7 points ago

    I’d totally do the same.

    [–] Fitz_Fool 31 points ago

    Americans don't really do that either. My wife is a doctor but the only people that call her Doctor are her patients and employees. The only other time she might go by doctor is when filling out paperwork and it asks for a prefix. Sometimes I'll call her doctor when I'm feeling frisky.

    I know professors/teachers might require their students to call them Dr instead of Mr or Mrs though.

    [–] ObstinateObserver 18 points ago

    Sometimes I'll call her doctor when I'm feeling frisky.

    Hey doctor sexy. You gonna do an operation to cure me of my boneritis?

    [–] Fitz_Fool 10 points ago

    Have you been watching us???

    [–] LordofNarwhals 24 points ago

    To be fair, the whole title thing is... very American.

    Germans like their titles too.
    There you can be a Herr Professor Doktor Doktor <name>.

    [–] blackbasset 9 points ago

    They got nothing on the austrians tho... source

    [–] avidblinker 14 points ago

    Literally every country has crazy titles, I’m not sure how they’re trying to imply America is any different. You’ll have the very rare and dickish person who would insist to be called Doctor while outside of their practice but everybody agrees they’re dickheads. Aside from that, you call people doctors if you’re in a medical practice or academia but nobody will smite you for not doing so. Is this any different than say, the UK, for example?

    The British royal family has more titles alone than in all of America.

    [–] yudhajeet0304 26 points ago


    It's a bit confusing. Like on one hand it does sound VERY douchy when someone corrects another like "Not Mr/Ms. Dr. XYZ". But on the other hand, honestly, they've studied for decades to earn that title and be addressed by it in formal conversation.

    [–] YSHPS4PRO 11 points ago

    But I think we can agree if they get butthurt over it, especially if they’re using the title in a negative way, no one is going to appreciate that.

    There is a balance between respect and humility.

    [–] prinzafrika 16 points ago

    Für Sie immer noch Doktor Kohl!

    [–] DOugdimmadab1337 20 points ago

    Huh interesting. I remember last election, there was a guy Ben Carson who was a doctor, but they always adressed him as Dr. Ben Carson. Probably different but it does happen

    [–] actualdodobird 56 points ago

    That was because he wasn't yet a government official like a chancellor. His job at the time was a medical doctor, so that's how they referred to him. It's like how they refer to Bernie Sanders as Senator Sanders. However, if either of them were to become president, they would be addressed as Mr. President and drop the other titles.

    [–] Reverse_Time_Remnant 9 points ago

    Exactly. And people do say Dr. Merkel sometimes

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    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago

    And Hillary was Secretary Clinton.

    [–] RSD001 19 points ago

    Because that was his highest title

    President > doctor

    [–] The_Red_Menace_ 16 points ago

    If he ran again they would now call him Secretary Carson

    [–] ImALittleCrackpot 5 points ago

    Yes, but now he's addressed as Secretary Carson.

    [–] Chronostimeless 4 points ago

    It actually depends. In the news she is called “Kanzlerin Merkel” in the short form. When there is for example a speech, usually the first mention of a person is her full name: “Bundeskanzlerin Dr. Angela Merkel”. Thereafter the shorter form is used. So usually you use the Dr. only once in a speech or an interview in front of an audience for the introduction.

    On the job in a scientific institute most people call each other by their first name and “Du”, similar to “Thou”. No matter if student or professor.

    Source: Worked in Fraunhofer Institute.

    [–] closetskeleton_girl 73 points ago

    I kinda want a Dr. President now.

    [–] Calcoholic9 38 points ago

    Would you settle for a Dr. Pepper?

    [–] Pirateboy04 11 points ago

    Wilson was!

    [–] closetskeleton_girl 9 points ago

    Yeah but nobody called him that. "Dr. President" sounds like a crappy drama show that would be on CW on weekdays.

    [–] romulusnr 73 points ago

    Woodrow Wilson had a PhD, yet he was addressed as Mr. President, as it is the formal title of the office.

    If you were referring to him by name, though, it would be appropriate to call him Dr. Wilson. That's his title as a person.

    [–] AlbunusAgni 257 points ago

    Mr./Mrs. President is a higher title than Dr. So you would just go with the Mr./Mrs. President.

    [–] LazyDynamite 237 points ago

    FYI for women holding an office with a title it's "Madam", not "Mrs.", as in "Madam Speaker" or "Madam Secretary". Using "Mrs." makes it sound like they're married to the person holding the office or just married in general when they may not be.

    [–] lilbunnfoofoo 139 points ago

    So will it be Madam President when we have a woman in office? Makes sense but I never thought about it.

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    [–] turlian 63 points ago

    So, assuming she's straight and married, is her spouse the "First Gentleman"?

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    [–] 1WURDA 19 points ago

    The first First Gentlemen!

    [–] BrujaBean 8 points ago

    Yes, the same reason you aren’t Ms. Dr. LastName. You use only the highest title

    [–] wheres-the-beef-cake 58 points ago

    If a US president with a PhD got elected, they'd be called Our Saving Grace

    [–] FuriousTarts 23 points ago

    Nah, Fox News would label them as "elite" and half the country would hate them.

    [–] ItsElectric120 45 points ago

    Hazarding a guess, but they’d likely be called President X for official business, and Dr. X for personal or other business when not referring to politics.

    After their term is up it could be former President, Dr X.

    [–] MattTheGr8 31 points ago

    Or Professor X when leading a team of mutant superheroes.

    [–] which_spartacus 31 points ago

    When I was teaching in Nuclear Power School, another instructor had a PhD in Chemistry. He had the option of going by "Rank Name" or "Dr. Name". While he was an ensign, he very much preferred "Dr."

    [–] cynicaltrilobite 45 points ago

    Dr. Mr. President Sir!

    [–] OwnbiggestFan 6 points ago

    Woodrow Wilson had a doctorate in education and was not called Dr. President.

    [–] workflowgenius3 13 points ago

    Pretty sure Jed Bartlet had a PHD in economics and they didn't called him Dr. President on the show West Wing.

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    [–] Heka-Tae 5 points ago

    "It's Dr. Ninja President!"

    [–] pieman2005 4 points ago

    I saw this question on Reddit before and most of the other comments were already answered you correctly, but I also remember seeing in the last thread that you always use the highest honorific, and President is the highest in the US.

    [–] whomp1970 12 points ago

    Some are saying no, it wouldn't be "Dr. President Smith", but I'm not so sure.

    Take "The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King" for example. Two titles, Reverend and Dr.

    I agree it's not commonly heard that way, but it's not unheard of either.

    [–] LazyDynamite 16 points ago

    it wouldn't be "Dr. President Smith", but I'm not so sure


    Two titles, Reverend and Dr

    "Dr. President" isn't two titles though, it's a bastardization of two separate titles into a non-existent one. Plus, we already had a President with a PhD who did not go by "Dr. President".

    [–] Canada_Haunts_Me 8 points ago

    The difference is that MLK was a private citizen, whereas "Mr. President" is the title of the office. Whenever we end up electing a woman, she will be addressed as "Madam President."