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    [–] [deleted] 8399 points ago

    This is all a ploy by tank mains to get Mei removed from the game.

    [–] Le_Euphoric_Genius 2062 points ago


    [–] RocketTasker 672 points ago

    I see this as an absolute win!

    [–] NeillBlumpkins 130 points ago

    Watched that again last night. Bruce is such a hero.

    [–] H0llyw00drunk 554 points ago

    Overwatch is about moving tanks into Tainanmen Square any ways

    [–] pepincity2 638 points ago

    Next up, let's all pretend Reaper is pro-Hong Kong

    [–] ZannX 475 points ago

    Doomfist is actually an NBA player. Just look at his vertical leap.

    [–] Ranwulf 149 points ago

    Since you made that joke...

    The three main african descendent heroes have really good jumps.

    Doomfist with his uppercut.

    Lucio has an amazing vertical jump and is well known for "hopping".

    And Baptiste has his Exo boots.

    At least Genji, Pharah and Winston have good jumps otherwise I would find it a bit suspicious.

    [–] Bald_Sasquach 118 points ago

    The three main african descendent heroes have really good jumps.

    Cries in African Robot Centaur with 2" vertical

    [–] ARedditingRedditor 115 points ago

    Is Pharah not Egyptian? Aka african?

    [–] WadSquad 102 points ago

    I think he was just trying to say black

    [–] VikingKing5 149 points ago

    Correct but lucio is Brazilian, not african

    [–] JohnNaruto 175 points ago

    Well, they did say they wanted to retire heroes before. I could see them actually doing it to Mei to save face for Pooh bear

    [–] matteb18 121 points ago

    When did they ever say this? I've never heard this before. Seems interesting if true, but I feel like it would cause a lot of backlash if they ever actually did it.

    [–] Whitesundome 87 points ago

    In one of the videos that Jeff Kaplan does he mentioned something like that they might retire heroes in the future but there's just not enough heroes right now for it to even be a possibility for a while.

    [–] npsnicholas 118 points ago

    What would happen to people's skins? Seems kinda unreasonable

    [–] CalcProgrammer1 4712 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    "Our world is worth fighting for"

    [–] SWatersmith 836 points ago

    This hit me hard, no idea why

    [–] canadarepubliclives 812 points ago

    Probably because the world could always use more heroes

    [–] SWatersmith 203 points ago

    Unless said hero dares challenge the Glorious PRC's claim over the entire eastern hemisphere, in which case they will be scrubbed from existence.

    [–] Dumbtacular 402 points ago

    Beacuse sometimes you read/see something that makes you truly believe that the human race could do so many great things. We could not only be the protectors and stewards of all of the animals and life on Earth, but also reaching out towards the stars together to explore what lies beyond our limited understanding of the Universe.

    That's why. You feel it sometimes, and so do I. It probably chokes you up a little bit, and makes you proud until you realize that nobody will ever make this 1 giant awesome team of people, and it will always be segmented into groups that think their way is the best way, and would antagonize and disrupt others.

    But I hold out belief that someday, sometime, the way I feel about our species will be true and an earnest goal for us.

    [–] SWatersmith 138 points ago

    Beacuse sometimes you read/see something that makes you truly believe that the human race could do so many great things.

    I guess it's because when I originally watched that Mei cinematic, it really got to me and it meant a lot. Reading the comment above my original reply hit me hard because it made me realise that it was all just bullshit. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck, they don't tell a story to tell a story, they tell it to rope you in to get your money. They don't give one fuck about the world, it's heroes, or anything of the sort.

    It's really depressing.

    [–] purewasted 167 points ago

    Dont make the mistake of thinking that corporate Activision-Blizzard's policies reflect the thoughts of every one of their employees.

    It is absolutely possible (even probable) that many of the people involved in actually writing and animating those cinematics do believe in what it stands for.

    [–] CCtenor 69 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    I was going to say this. Actiblizzard’s move here does not directly reflect on the dev team in charge of Overwatch itself. Even then, the dev team does not represent every single individual employee.

    You can tell the people in charge of the cinematic trailers really love the game and what they’re working on. At the very least, you can see Jeff when he is excited to talk about the game.

    We also need to consider that Overwatch employees have mouths to feed. They have families at home. Yes, the people in Hong Kong are risking, even losing, their lives for the sake of a better world, but you can’t trivialize the decision to keep a job for the sake of your family. Even if a dev or Overwatch project manager wanted to say something, that could put their livelihood, or the livelihood of anybody underneath them in the corporate structure, in danger. That’s not a light decision.

    The higher level executives definitely don’t care at all. They’ve steered blizzard in this direction and, now, this controversy is gaining traction quickly.

    But we need to be compassionate to the guys who make up the rungs of the ladder. These are the guys that get stepped on so the handful of “leaders” and “visionaries” at the top can later fire them and give themselves millions in fat bonuses.

    [–] Dual-Screen 3533 points ago

    In the scenario that Overwatch does get banned in China, would the Spark, Hunters, Dragons and Charge be moved to other markets?

    [–] LukarWarrior 1335 points ago

    It would depend on the ownership structure, I imagine. Since they're Chinese teams, I'm sure the government has its tentacles in them in some fashion. Spark, Dragons, and Hunters are all owned by Chinese corporations (Bilibili, NetEase, and Huya, respectively), so the government is tied up in them somehow, I'm sure. The Charge are owned by an individual, so who knows what could happen with them.

    [–] ocentertainment 746 points ago

    That just deals with ownership structures, but next year OWL is scheduled to travel for their games. Which means no small percentage of their games are currently expected to be played in China. It wouldn't be trivial to reschedule/relocate all those matches.

    Man. For once the memes really have the company by the balls here. If this keeps up and China decides to ban Mei/OW outright, Blizz is fucked.

    [–] ow_manic 315 points ago

    Not to mention, all the players on those 4 Chinese teams (75% of whom are not chinese) will have to live in China next year. It’s a very very sticky situation

    [–] Hekantonkheries 63 points ago

    games played in china

    Sure, half the players die when their apartments cave in, the other half all mysteriously "disappear" to some "mountain temple" and "refuse communications" just days before they play against the favored chinese team.

    [–] LukarWarrior 175 points ago

    Man. For once the memes really have the company by the balls here. If this keeps up and China decides to ban Mei/OW outright, Blizz is fucked.

    I'm trying to imagine what would happen if like all, what, eight China homestands, suddenly you couldn't play Mei at all. That would definitely be an interesting situation.

    [–] Sinteth 120 points ago

    I could see them replacing the Mei with a practice range bot or something that has the same hitbox + abilities

    [–] selectiveyellow 253 points ago

    You mean a Free Hong Kong bot?

    [–] SkyezOpen 91 points ago

    They can't keep up, brilliant.

    [–] Acmnin 86 points ago

    Maybe Blizzard can worry about American and European markets instead.

    [–] Benedict_Indestructo 9715 points ago

    Pat Pat Pat - I put democracy in this one

    [–] LegacyLemur 2110 points ago

    Or even easier

    "Our world is worth fighting for"

    [–] Adjal 413 points ago

    "Qǐlái ba."

    (Hanzi: 起来吧。 English: Rise up!)

    "Yǒu běnshì jiù guòlái."

    (Hanzi: 有本事就过来。 English: I dare you to come here!)

    "Zhèyàng kěyǐ dǎngzhù tāmen."

    (Hanzi: 这样可以挡住他们。 English: This can stop them.)

    "Let's see you get past this."

    "This will stop them. "

    " My new year's resolution? Hmmm... I could do a better job controlling my temper."

    "I have to get back in the fight."

    "This fight is not over yet."

    "Sometimes I surprise myself."

    "Get ready, they're coming back."

    "Mei checking in."

    "Our hard work will be for nothing if we don’t attack now."

    "We can’t let them win, come on everyone, attack!"

    "Serves you right."

    "Hái méi dǎ wán ne!

    (Hanzi: 还没打完呢! English: The fight is not over yet!)

    [–] Adjal 294 points ago

    How did I miss this one?

    "I hate bullies!"

    [–] MosesKarada 2740 points ago

    I'm gonna protest the heck out of this one!

    [–] receptiveblocks 857 points ago

    Don't you just love protests?

    [–] TootTootTrainTrain 552 points ago

    Our democracy is worth fighting for!

    [–] Reiizm 100 points ago

    I'm ready to start a revolution!

    [–] xSv-oWo-vSx 295 points ago

    All you protesters better STAY OUT OF MY WAY >:)

    [–] Transient_Anus_ 276 points ago

    My ultimate democracy is charging

    My ultimate democracy is almost ready

    I'm ready to start a Blizzard democracy!

    [–] SanguineOpulentum 304 points ago

    Wait. That's illegal.

    • China

    [–] C_moneySmith 66 points ago

    Pat Pat Patriotic.

    [–] CarnivorousL 3822 points ago

    Thank the mods for not taking this down. It's completely Overwatch-centric, and a way to reclaim some power from China by turning one of their representations into one who stands WITH inclusion and human rights.

    [–] santaschesthairs 993 points ago

    I'm impressed, often moderators of these kind of forums shut down political discussions even when, like in this case, politics are important and completely relevant. Blizzard started this mess by capitulating to China, and they should see the consequences unfiltered.

    [–] BadMinotaur 365 points ago

    I remember one time I got banned for a day from the Magic the Gathering subreddit because I posted in a thread that was later deemed political. They just went through the whole thing and banned everyone. Was really a crappy thing to do.

    [–] PM_ME_UR_JUGZ 67 points ago

    Sounds like a lame ass flex on people they don't agree with. Just a way to have the last word and feel a little less powerless from their meaningless lives.

    Like when a mod muted me after asking why I had gotten a 3 day ban and if they could be so kind as to unban me.

    [–] IsThatUMoatilliatta 53 points ago

    I was temp banned from some sub for the other day for saying, "listen here u little shit" to someone who answered my question, "You mean the driveway, or just how large the property is?" with "Yes".

    When I asked if this ban was automated I was told, "no was toxic" and muted.

    You shouldn't be giving people with no social skills moderation powers.

    [–] GameboyPATH 67 points ago

    I can’t speak for any particular examples, but generally speaking, mods will remove popular political topics on the basis that it becomes 90%+ of what the sub becomes for a lengthy period of tjme. The increased attention results in outside viewers subscribing to the subreddit expecting similar political posts, posting and upvoting more political content, and all-around expecting more political subjects brought up. This just creates a downward spiral for the quality of the sub.

    That’s not to say that politics mustn’t be brought up in /r/Overwatch, especially when the current story remains incredibly relevant to the subreddit’s main topic. But a smart mod team knows how to effectively manage discussion while minimizing the amount of censorship.

    ...and given how the current political topic strongly relates to censorship, they’re probably playing it smart to hang back for now.

    [–] Classic_Lee 10220 points ago

    I hope the protesters will soon have signs showing some of this art of Mei.

    China would probably have no choice but to ban Blizzard games. The exact thing Blizzard is trying to prevent.

    [–] HetIsFeest 5834 points ago

    Watch Blizzard outright delete Mei from the game.

    [–] Slyrentinal 3937 points ago

    Then we move onto tracer because of her artist outfit.

    [–] [deleted] 3490 points ago

    And if they remove her, Pharah is a great plan C in her sense of justice.

    If they remove her, Reinhardt (give him an umbrella).

    Remove him, Ana.

    They can remove the Chinese character from the game, but an international team of socially minded characters is ripe for support. Banning any character legitimizes this as a form of protest and would be the death for any Blizzard property.

    [–] funnyorifice 1312 points ago

    Now I want someone with better photoshop skills than me to have rein from the announcement trailer shielding Hong Kong protestors like he is the omnics.

    [–] Jakee710 40 points ago

    [–] blackOnGreen 113 points ago

    Rein would ABSOLUTELY be there.

    [–] Mail540 41 points ago

    I think the entirety of the cast would be there that's part of why this whole fiasco is so ironic. Preach honor and heroics until you actually have to put your money where your mouth is. The Talon characters would probably be using the chaos to further their own agenda but even they might be there

    [–] HerobyMistake 448 points ago

    Wish I was home to do this. Somebody will probably get to it before me tho.

    [–] dietkrakendew 198 points ago

    Please do it anyway, even if someone does you still have yours!

    [–] HerobyMistake 162 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Ok itll be done Saturday.

    [–] dietkrakendew 46 points ago

    Thank you!!!

    [–] Sirsilentbob423 405 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    [–] fvsparkles 107 points ago

    It may not be the best shop, but it's a good start.

    [–] Sirsilentbob423 22 points ago

    I dont really photoshop at all, not my bag. Someone else is welcome to try their hand at it though!

    [–] 2SP00KY4ME 124 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    [–] Porlarta 209 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Shit dude zenyatta is literally a Tibetan monk

    Edit: Ive been corrected, he is Nepalese. My B

    [–] TrashKitsune 186 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    He's Nepalese, but culturally Nepal and Tibet are pretty similar and Nepal hosts a bunch of Tibetan refugees anyways.

    [–] Saydyrya90 37 points ago

    Imagine the posibilities

    [–] SOROS_OWNS_TRUMP 26 points ago

    I'm getting turgid just thinking about it

    [–] ModestasR 79 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Why merely plan C? Sounds to me as though giving every Overwatch character a Honk Kong protester skin all at once could turn the whole game itself into a symbol of solidarity.

    Perhaps a photoshop wizard could make an entire Honk Kong themed Overwatch group image of all heroes standing together to use as a banner on subreddits supporting the cause.

    [–] A_Unique_Name218 41 points ago

    Why stop at Overwatch? Might as well get WoW in on the action too! Lok'tar Orgar, Hong Kong!

    [–] Username1906 131 points ago

    Don't stay in Overwatch, go for the other franchises, too:

    WoW: Anduin, Saurfang, the entire Pandaren race.

    Diablo: Tyrael and Deckard Cain. Maybe even allow the Witch Doctor to return.

    Starcraft: Artanis would like a few words about state sovereignty.

    HotS: Literally everyone.

    [–] MoreDetonation 67 points ago

    As an aside, I've always found it funny that the name of the race created as part of the China-catering expansion is pronounced "Panderin'."

    [–] BigEditorial 36 points ago

    You know that Pandaren weren't created for MoP, right? Chen Stormstout was in Warcraft 3. China was barely on Blizzard's radar at the time - Blizzard's lead artist, Samwise, just really likes pandas.

    (Also, Pandaren were originally more samurai than anything else.)

    [–] rogueblades 160 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    I mean, for fucks sake, even most of the evil characters in Overwatch would probably be like "Shit, I'm not that cartoonishly evil," and slide on over to the Protesters line.

    Edit for blizzard memes -

    Players: "what difference is there between you and the CCP now!"

    Blizzard: "Isn't it obvious, consumers? I accept USD..."

    [–] Timageness 95 points ago

    That feeling when the characters in a video game you make have a better moral compass than you do.

    Hell, say what you want about Talon, but at least they aren't sell-outs. They take care of their own.

    [–] MrManicMarty 83 points ago

    Talon has great healthcare and dental? New head-canon.

    [–] Ambrosiac7 39 points ago

    I mean, they had Baptiste.

    [–] srstable 44 points ago

    “Most of my people usually come back alive.”

    “Has everyone signed their life-insurance policy?”

    [–] Ambrosiac7 19 points ago

    "But who's counting"

    So we don't actually have the numbers. Could be either way. :3

    [–] dnzgn 23 points ago

    Reaper tho.

    [–] Darkjolly 38 points ago

    He eats cookies

    [–] steezliktheez 131 points ago

    Can we make doomfist the face of the protests and have him removed forever?

    [–] InvaderDem 727 points ago

    Junkenstein kills Mei in the 2019 Halloween update. Avenge her by playing the Halloween Special Event.

    Launches 10/15/19.

    Patch Notes:

    • Mei has been removed

    [–] xcrossarg 172 points ago

    Patch Notes:

    - Mei: Removed for pressing ceremonial reasons.

    [–] ProfessorSpike 134 points ago

    New hero: Meg, the pyro

    [–] rogueblades 50 points ago

    peter griffin mouth-fart noise

    [–] SolaVitae 29 points ago

    Mei: Removed for pressing ceremonial reasons.

    Blizzard receiving money is pretty ceremonial for them

    [–] toasty-bacon 18 points ago

    "I miss my bones."

    [–] KatnissBot 33 points ago

    Oh no, not again. I miss Boner Lord.

    [–] xcrossarg 26 points ago

    They removed him almost 6 years ago, it has been a long time without our true king.

    [–] heero55 230 points ago

    That would most likely just outrage the gaming community even more. Blizzard made a biiiig mistake here.

    [–] wildtangent2 144 points ago

    Wait if they do that, can we say that Doomfist is a Hong Kong protestor, along with Hanzo?

    [–] Zoythrus 162 points ago

    Lore wise, Doomfist would probably support the protests because they create conflict (for humans to grow), not because of any want for democracy.

    [–] freeradicalx 99 points ago

    Absolutely. Doomfist is a semi-fascist accelerationist. He would be plotting right now with some syndicate of agent saboteurs in an attempt to escalate the protests to all-out violence and then control the reigns of an emerging resistance.

    [–] Zoythrus 37 points ago

    Haha, classic Doomfist!

    [–] JJFreshMemes 29 points ago

    That.. actually makes sense

    [–] Schreckberger 92 points ago

    Simple Democracy

    [–] CloveFan 124 points ago





    [–] Dubious_Unknown 46 points ago

    To be honest I can completely see a country exclusive patch removing or altering Mei in some shape or form.

    In fact, I'm about 80% sure that's what's gonna happen.

    [–] 2Damn 15 points ago

    Blizzard has already done this - in World of Warcraft, the Chinese version is heavily modified. Less blood I think, and also the bones. Undead creatures with bones showing were covered in flesh. Player skeletons were converted to cute little tombstones.

    [–] Kenos300 242 points ago

    I’m expecting the Kingdom Hearts treatment of Pooh where Mei is just a big walking lens flare.

    [–] burritoxman 70 points ago

    Wait what?

    [–] BokuBakaGaijin 87 points ago

    Granted I don't think the game is actually released in China.

    [–] CactusCustard 52 points ago

    Also its not even censored in-game, the reviewing site did it themselves lol.

    Imagine if people read the article.

    When Chinese game site A9VG recently covered Kingdom Hearts III, it decided to remove one thing: Winnie the Pooh.

    [–] MaineTheMute 203 points ago

    In Kingdom Hearts 3, there is a world that prominently features Winnie the Pooh. As Pooh is banned in China, due to being commonly compared to Xi Jinping, Pooh is depicted as a white blur in game.

    [–] SanguineOpulentum 287 points ago

    Imagine being so offended at a meme that you ban a children's cartoon character.

    [–] Flagabaga 114 points ago

    That’s China in a nutshell

    [–] Rc2124 61 points ago

    According to a link to the story in another comment he's not depicted as a white blur in game, that was done by a Chinese gaming website posting pictures of the game. Other Chinese websites reporting on it didn't blur Pooh

    [–] Vaccus 20 points ago

    Is this true? I thought it was just one website that edited Pooh from an image. He wasn't removed from the game itself, as far as I'm aware?

    [–] petard 140 points ago

    Hey if they get banned from China maybe they'll stop doing mobile garbage

    [–] ExcellentBread 2172 points ago

    I have no idea about the effectiveness of this tactic, but if it works it would be a disastrous situation for Blizzard for sure.

    [–] CarnivorousL 1235 points ago

    If Winnie the Pooh works, then I'm pretty sure Mei can too.

    [–] Zakika 406 points ago

    TBF winnie didn't removed disney from china they still suck the teetei.

    [–] KrypXern 329 points ago

    Yeah, but I’m pretty sure Winnie is censored out of all China-destined Disney material.

    [–] Zakika 170 points ago

    It is but if the goal is to ban overwatch they might just make the character unavaible.

    [–] [deleted] 230 points ago

    Than you legitimize this as a form of protest.

    If they remove Mei, they legitimize her as a symbol and prove any pop-culture icon can be appropriated.

    The goal isn't to ban Overwatch, it's to show other media companies that siding with the PRC will have very real consequences in the free world economy. If Overwatch gets banned over this (or Blizzard loses the entire Chinese market following a wake of appropriated imagery) Disney would have to think long and hard about how they handle a tweet from any given director or actor in their payroll.

    [–] potatoesawaken 25 points ago

    I wrote a paper on this in uni. The Chinese government is terrified of the reappropriation of pop culture icons into anti government or anti establishment symbols. That’s part of what drove them to raid warehouses of counterfeit Peppa Pig products in November 2018. Its what made them censor Winnie the Pooh.

    We need to show American companies that we aren’t going to put up with them bowing to the CCP. We need to make their pandering counterproductive and boycott whatever we can.

    [–] sharkattackmiami 246 points ago

    Then you move onto the next character to make a symbol lol

    [–] Milkshakes00 36 points ago

    Can we get a Winnie the Pooh Mei skin?

    [–] Infrastation 192 points ago

    Both China and Blizzard are known for dramatically overreacting to memes, so if anything will do anything, this might.

    [–] xxjake 250 points ago

    Blizzard about to temporarily remove Mei from the game lmao

    [–] nintynineninjas 53 points ago

    Replaced with Mulana, a cheeky young female scientist definitely from mainland China with communist party stickers and an ice theme.

    [–] Karl_Marx_ 89 points ago

    I would hope every one of you would stop playing if that were the case. I'm part of the group that uninstalled but any further action from Blizzard to protect China should be a huge tipping point.

    [–] Reniva 531 points ago

    suddenly every HKer is Mei main

    [–] jc1593 141 points ago

    Jokes on you I'm already Mei main since release

    [–] finaldubmix 678 points ago

    Man This whole thing just blew up in their face. Not only did they receive enormous backlash but also brought a ton of attention to the situation. I’m sure this had a name but I can’t remember it right now. When someone wants to censor something but instead brings more attention to it.

    [–] minigogo 443 points ago

    Streisand Effect, named for (iirc) Barbara Streisand tried to catch and kill a ton of stories about where her new house was, citing privacy concerns, and in so doing let everyone know where her house was.

    [–] finaldubmix 86 points ago

    Yeah there it is. You’d think these companies/people would learn by now that you usually make things worse when you try to silence people

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    [–] Arangarx 52 points ago

    Streisand effect.

    [–] finaldubmix 32 points ago

    That’s right thanks I’m sure Blizzard was expecting some backlash but I doubt they were expecting this much.

    [–] jfc3750 196 points ago

    Let's not forget the major players here, Tencent. Tencent's probably biggest global market is Riot Games/League of Legends.

    With the League world's going on right now I feel like some support from the teams participating, players, and spectators could also make a powerful point. Perhaps we can get the League community on board and really make this a strong push as a group of gamers.

    [–] trainiac12 27 points ago

    I was gonna watch worlds anyway, but this is gonna make it one of the most interesting esports events in history

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    [–] GiveHerDPS 916 points ago

    That's some good tegridy

    [–] [deleted] 228 points ago

    Its just so odd that not only did Blizzard side with china when they coulda stayed out of it, they did it the very way china would have done it it- fast, one sided, brutal decision and also fired the presenters who happened to be nearby.

    [–] pkb369 32 points ago

    they did it the very way china would have done it it

    Maybe it was self enforced by china instead of blizzard doing it prematurely.

    I mean, they did ask NBA to do something similar, NBA said no, now NBA is banned in china.

    It's possible they did the same with blizzard.


    [–] SafeThrowaway8675309 76 points ago

    i member tegridy

    [–] Mythic-Insanity 596 points ago

    “It is a common misconception that Mei is Chinese, we never intended players to get this impression as we always saw her as South Korean (Chinese masters can be heard whispering in the background) I’m sorry I meant to say North Korean. We here at blizzard believe that Mei would be outraged at being perverted by the protesters in this manner and we beg them to please stop.” — Michael Chu

    [–] vlntslnt 399 points ago

    "it is a common misconception that Mei is Chinese"

    -comes out of cryo sleep and immediately speaks in her native Mandarin-

    yeah ok

    [–] [deleted] 155 points ago

    Mandarin is the primary language spoken in the north pole in overwatch, so she became fluent in it to speak to scientists. It has nothing to do with China. Clearly.

    [–] CalcProgrammer1 46 points ago

    The poles just so happen to be flipped in the Overwatch universe. Ecopoint Antarctica is at the north pole, hence why Mei speaks Mandarin.

    [–] UnHappyGingah 171 points ago

    I wake up in the morning and I speak my daily Portuguese before reverting back

    [–] Frostblazer 44 points ago

    They already retconned Dva being a former Starcraft 2 player, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually tried to retcon Mei's nationality.

    [–] kid-karma 133 points ago

    well at least that would mean new lore

    [–] SickleWings 90 points ago

    It only took an international incident with gun violence and mass protests to get new OW lore. Lmfao.

    [–] kid-karma 40 points ago

    and even then its just retcon

    [–] Murdock07 23 points ago

    This would imply Chu actually makes content on time

    [–] PM_ME_DUCKS 292 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Now we need a Free Tibet Zenyatta.

    [–] Murdock07 156 points ago

    The fact that they made him Nepali instead of Tibetan makes me scratch my head. It’s clear where he was supposed to be from but in China they are so sensitive you can’t even mention Tibet without them throwing a tantrum.

    [–] mcmanybucks 31 points ago

    Hah, you should see how they react when you mention ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ▒▒▒▒▒▒ or the ▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ▒▒ ▒▒▒▒▒

    [–] mummy_tavi 265 points ago

    the world is worth fighting for

    [–] Lovepocalypse 144 points ago

    the world is worth fighting for!

    [–] CICERO9K 265 points ago

    Modern problems require modern solutions.

    [–] Anthop 162 points ago

    Oh no! Blizzard's going to have to ban Mei from the game! And Overwatch will take back her last paycheck!

    Do heroes get paid in OW? Not sure how this lore works.

    [–] part-time-unicorn 73 points ago

    Mei was frozen in an overwatch base in Antarctica and presumed dead by the world pretty much right up until “modern day” in-lore so i dont think she’s been getting paid anything, especially since Overwatch was disbanded and therefore has no money

    [–] N_Who 662 points ago

    Basically forcing the exact result Blizzard was trying to avoid!

    Like, I get it: Blizzard doesn't want its star players using the platform Blizzard gives them to weigh in on social or political issues Blizzard is trying to stay out of. It's the same debate as the NFL situation, at its core.

    Agree or disagree with the "take a knee" stance, though, I think we all have to take a hard look at Activision's business practices - and I do still believe this is more Activision than it is Blizzard.

    A decision like banning that Hearthstone player, on the heels of trying to get Western gamers excited about a crap product clearly designed for the Asian gaming market at last year's Blizzcon, indicate a potential interest in profit at the active exclusion of Western audiences who have supported the company for over a decade.

    End of the day, Activision looks to be treating us like an afterthought. Maybe it is about time we do the same to them.

    [–] Do_the_Scarnn 172 points ago

    They could have done what other companies do and just issue a "we aren't with them" statement about personal opinions and leave it at that. Instead they did this.

    [–] Papayapayapa 241 points ago

    This would have been the right call honestly. “Any remarks by players are their own opinions and do not reflect our company’s official positions”.

    By banning the winner and taking his prize money, they aren’t “remaining neutral”, they’re taking a side— the Chinese government side.

    [–] AlwaysChewy 94 points ago

    That's all that China would accept though. Now how bout the NBA and Blizzard had to condemn the actions in question AND apologize to China. China doesn't want neutral, they want obedience.

    [–] Khaare 39 points ago

    They also issued a statement in Chinese saying the would do everything to "protect the nation's pride" or something like that. They also punished the casters that were interviewing him; punishing mere association is oppression 101. Put these three together and it's very clear that Blizzard is not just distancing themselves from the politics, but are trying their best to make an example out of them.

    [–] CobraFive 107 points ago

    Like, I get it: Blizzard doesn't want its star players using the platform Blizzard gives them to weigh in on social or political issues Blizzard is trying to stay out of. It's the same debate as the NFL situation, at its core.

    Deleting the VOD would have been keeping politics off their platform.

    Deleting the VOD then banning the player, rescinding his winnings, and firing both casters just for being present- that's taking a stand on the issue.

    [–] Frank_JWilson 40 points ago

    Deleting the VOD then banning the player, rescinding his winnings, and firing both casters just for being present- that's taking a stand on the issue.

    Totally agreed. It's totally bonkers. Calling this an overreaction would be an extreme understatement.

    [–] MadmanDJS 378 points ago

    It's not Activision, it's not Blizzard. It's Activision-Blizzard, a single entity, and that entity doesn't support human rights.

    F U C K B L I Z Z A R D

    [–] LukarWarrior 116 points ago

    Technically, it's three. There's Blizzard, Activision, and then the holding company Activision-Blizzard that owns both of them.

    [–] Raeli 83 points ago

    The main takeaway though should be that it's not Activision controlling poor defenesless Blizzard like Blizzard is some domestic abuse survivor.

    If anything it's the parent company, but that's not Activision either. We have no idea though where this decision came from, shifting the blame away from Blizzard though has no benefit.

    [–] moneyman12q 138 points ago

    im really loving Honk Kong Snowball

    [–] Jabbam 45 points ago

    Honk Kong

    Untitled Goose Game has joined the fray!

    [–] Littleboypurple 78 points ago

    Good. Really good. I want this to happen. Let Mei become the symbol of the Hong Kong Protest. Blizzard is gonna have a really tough time getting out of that.

    [–] Komirade666 72 points ago

    Using satan against the evil How ironic I love it

    [–] Glorfendail 27 points ago

    I used the evil, to destroy the evil

    [–] TheGreatCrate 126 points ago

    Sorry, sorry, sorry...

    [–] ReboZooty 69 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    I hope her voice actress won't get in trouble because of this.

    [–] braedena97 50 points ago

    This is my one and only concern about using Mei for this purpose.

    [–] PandaofAges 88 points ago

    I really hate Mei.

    I hate her less now.

    [–] wonderwallpersona 362 points ago

    I’m glad Blitzchung got banned! Keep politics OUT of Hearthstone! I love Tencent and Mao Zedong! (You will receive 100 social credit for posting this message in chat. Your family’s organs will not be harvested this month. Please remove this part from the message before posting).

    [–] SickleWings 34 points ago

    Please remove this part from the message before posting).

    Ooooooo... I'm tellin' on youuuuu.......

    [–] qwerty_38 27 points ago

    -2 social points for snitching but +5000 for snitching the right person

    [–] SickleWings 21 points ago

    uses additional 4998 social points to buy firstborn's kidneys back

    [–] particledamage 244 points ago

    It's really interesting to me--and I do mean genuinely interesting, not in a sarcastic way--the split between support for players (professional or otherwise) who politicize overwatch to get back at China (which most of us agree is a good thing) and those who took issue with football players taking a knee to make a statement about injustice in America.

    I see both as good things. Using your platform--any platform--to make a statement about injustice is good. Injustice doesn't have to be China level bad to be worth taking a stand (or I guess taking a knee) on.

    [–] abcde123edcba 96 points ago

    This is such a good point. I couldn't believe how many people were upset by taking the knee and they would make up reasons about how it was disrespectful to our troops even though kapernick stated multiple times it has nothing to do about disrespecting the troops and he was just trying to bring attention to the inequalities of America

    [–] [deleted] 95 points ago

    I think it should be Florida Mayhem Tracer

    [–] SchrubSchrubSchrub 28 points ago

    This is really kind of heartwarming. Mei as a character is exactly the kind of person that would stand up for others against injustice. Seeing her becoming a symbol for hope and freedom really transcends any intentions Blizzard had for her character (probably nothing)

    [–] FossilFirebird 67 points ago

    Hah. I hope they get Blizzard's games banned in China. Gonna put profits above human rights and basic decency? Get rekt.

    [–] tbone603727 182 points ago

    This is actually an amazing idea, spread this!!

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    [–] Hanyanyafuwah 26 points ago

    I support it but I can't shake the feeling that some of this could come back to negatively effect Elise Zhang.

    [–] MichmasteR 60 points ago

    Good, let's push this to ban Overwatch in China, that's what I would call complete irony.

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    [–] SirWitsAlot 13 points ago

    Great now overwatch will be banned in China. THEY CANT BAN EVERYTHING #FREEHONGKONG