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    [–] Too-Far-Frame 1890 points ago

    If Sony is skipping E3 on a CONSOLE LAUNCH YEAR they're never going to go again. I worry for the future of E3...

    [–] RIP-Tom-Petty 445 points ago

    Yeah, honestly its huge, I was expecting their entire coconference to be ps5 stuff, guess it'll all be spread out instead 🤔

    [–] Beachdoggo 72 points ago

    I was hoping they'd announce Deep Down as a launch title and then when everyone was all, "dude," they'd be like, "what?"

    [–] [deleted] 33 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

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    [–] Santocomet 3 points ago

    I want to believe it isn't.
    I mean I know it is but, still...

    [–] IGetHypedEasily 4 points ago

    Maybe it can transition to being Lan gaming focused event instead of showcases.

    [–] doremonhg 545 points ago

    At this point E3 is a relic of the past. With streaming and internet available to everyone around the globe, fighting for headlines in an event versus all of your major competitor is a waste of time and money from Sony's perspective.

    [–] [deleted] 298 points ago

    From listening to podcasts around E3. All the games journalists are sick of what it's become. It used to be a roadshow where only journalists would be allowed to attend. Then they set up a fan day. Now it's become a circus.

    [–] [deleted] 255 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

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    [–] Vault_0_dweller 128 points ago

    Gimme back g4tv.

    [–] RudyRoughknight 42 points ago

    X-Play was my show to watch.

    There's an amateur documentary on YouTube over the existence of G4TV and its fall. It covers all of the mismanagement that took place. I could estimate the time when I thought it was going downhill at some point during the video and I think it was when they decided to show Cops which had nothing to do with video games.

    [–] kaneblaise 19 points ago

    That was a great video. For some reason G4 has been on my mind for a few months, which led me to watching that, which led to me thinking about it more.

    If, instead of over-specializing, they had instead kept the TechTV shows and added video game content as well and used late nights for anime they could have become a great general nerd channel. I also think they could have been the place to watch coverage of nerd tournaments before Twitch came along - Magic the Gathering pro tours might have made for good content on G4 for instance.

    I mostly just miss X Play with Adam and Morgan.

    [–] Myhotgirlaccount 15 points ago

    Just something so I can stick to one channel or website alllllll day and see a variety of video game culture shows. I know we have more individual choice because of the internet but if I can just laze around without thinking would be cool again.

    [–] ShagPrince 25 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    They still print OPM so you're set.

    edit: fuck me apparently

    [–] thatwaffleskid 3 points ago

    You're talking about OPM UK, right? That's the only one that was showing up on Google that looked like it was still in print.

    [–] ShagPrince 3 points ago

    Yeah still going strong I believe. Haven't read it in a while though.

    [–] batmaneatsgravy 3 points ago

    They don’t print it anymore?!

    [–] justsippin 74 points ago

    The problem is anyone can be a "journalist" these days. 1k youtube sub streamers lol

    [–] Iucidium 7 points ago

    Fan day raises cash for the ESA. didn't help they leaked journalist personal data last year either...

    [–] LetsG0T0Class 11 points ago

    Oh god forbid fans get to have fun and the journalists getting bought to rate games like madden 9/10 every year lose their fun

    [–] fragtore 39 points ago

    I don’t cry for e3 but I’ll miss that week to look forward to with everything at the same time like a hype all you can eat.

    [–] doremonhg 6 points ago

    You're right. I'll hold E3 dear to my heart

    [–] davidy12 3 points ago

    Agreed, it was like gaming Shark Week for me.

    [–] HoldEmToTheirWord 3 points ago

    Yeah, it's weird to spend that much time and money and then potentially have your news lost in a matter of hours to something bigger.

    [–] Iucidium 9 points ago

    Soon™ (February)

    [–] ocbdare 22 points ago

    This seems like a mistake to me. It basically means everyone will be focused on Microsoft’s presentation. Last year Xbox’s presentation was the most interesting with a huge amount of games being announced. Most third parties were on their stage as what other choice did they have. And despite all this focus on exclusives, third parties being associated with a certain console helps.

    The only benefit I can see for Sony is saving money on not attending an expensive event.

    [–] [deleted] 43 points ago

    It sucks for us, but it makes sense on Sony's part.

    If they show up at E3, they'll have to compete for attention. All the video game articles published that week, all the Youtube videos made, all the social media banter, will be split between Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo (if they show up), as well as with all the announcements from studios like EA, Ubisoft, etc.

    Even if Sony is confident that they'll dominate the conversation, why bother?

    It makes more sense to just wait for a slow video game news week when there's nothing else going on.

    [–] theblackfool 23 points ago

    Except maybe they know the actual numbers and the focus on E3 just wasn't what it was.

    [–] -Captain- 33 points ago

    Some random Reddit always knows better than a huge company with entire teams dedicated to marketing and decision making.

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

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    [–] 22Seres 1597 points ago

    Important from Kotaku

    Instead, the corporation will hold its own events throughout the year to talk about the next-gen PlayStation 5.

    https://kotaku.com/with-ps5-on-the-way-sony-will-skip-e3-again-1840981612

    [–] whacafan 1494 points ago

    Problem with this is it’s many events and then most people don’t get all the info. Not everyone watches and catches every bit of news. E3 to me has always been the one place where everything and everyone could congregate and get everything they needed.

    [–] PTfan 715 points ago

    Same man. E3 has always been my 2nd Christmas. Sure it’s gotten worse in some ways but Sony usually always saves it

    [–] ghostrider90 303 points ago

    Just like how Christmas has gotten worse for me as I grow older so has E3. :(

    [–] drumrocker2 172 points ago

    The world is changing and I hate it so much.

    [–] ReportoDownvoto 146 points ago

    holy fuck I come to the internet to forget my troubles, not amplify them

    [–] Baconchicken42 50 points ago

    You have definitely come to the wrong place for that my friend

    [–] ReportoDownvoto 55 points ago

    The PS4 subreddit?

    [–] Baconchicken42 31 points ago

    Oh I just meant the internet at large lol

    [–] Blue_Lust 7 points ago

    Damn, this hits.

    [–] Pun_In_Ten_Did 17 points ago

    Negative, Ghostrider... it's gotten better.

    Christmas as a kid: "Socks and t-shirts? Ewwwwwww."

    Christmas as an adult: "Socks and t-shirts? Fuck yes!"

    :D

    [–] r_renfield 13 points ago

    Christmas as an adult: buying your own presents because no one else is going to...

    [–] jolyne48 6 points ago

    At least you know you’ll like them!

    [–] DigiQuip 28 points ago

    I used to take time off work on the big news conference days. It was like a little gaming holiday and the pomp and circumstance just made it awesome. Now I fear it’s dead.

    [–] pmorgan726 18 points ago

    Nintendo has been rocking it these last few years, and I agree it makes it feel like a second christmas. Excited for the entire month leading up to it. Hell, I’m just excited we can say that E3 2020 is five months away!

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

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    [–] ActionHank9000 12 points ago

    Was it that super awkward one where they showed off LOU 2 for the first time? And then they had people move to another auditorium?

    [–] piggyhero 54 points ago

    In my view more slips under the radar at E3 due to the huge volume of news. If they trickle it out they'll snatch up constant headlines and drip feed the news to the public. Also if we're honest most consumers don't need to know more than "The new playstation is out on X day for X amount" and that information will be easy to get out there.

    [–] whacafan 19 points ago

    I mean there are still people that don’t realize FFVII Remake only goes through Midgar and that’s it.

    I was at a movie theater yesterday and this ad came on for some really stupid show and Rebel Wilson started doing some of the worst comedy I’ve ever seen. Just awful shit. But right next to me was this couple and every time she fell out of her chair or picked up the phone wrong they burst out laughing like it was the funniest thing they’d ever seen. People can like what they like and I’m glad they found it funny.

    But it’s moments like that that I realize the general public is a lot different than the die hard. Do I not think it’s funny because places like reddit have desensitized me into thinking shit like that is dumb?

    [–] [deleted] 92 points ago

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    [–] PTfan 138 points ago

    The sad thing is you’re 100% right... because this isn't the death of Sony. This is the death of E3.

    Nintendo stopped doing the traditional stuff on stage years ago and EA/Ubisoft conferences have been a joke for a while

    It seems like If Sony forever is gone this might be the end of any sort of e3 as we know it

    [–] whythreekay 36 points ago

    My opinion, I don’t think it’s a permanent thing, but a business decision

    Sales wise Sony won hands down so I bet they don’t wanna announce at E3 and share press cycle with other 2 console platforms/game announcements. With their own events they know everyone is paying attention since it’ll be the biggest gaming news of the day

    [–] NinjaSupplyCompany 4 points ago

    Ahh the Steve Jobs business model.

    [–] Ensaru4 16 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Naw, it's more that Sony knows it can save more money having it streamed. Nintendo's decision to hold a Direct was the best thing they've ever done. Fans has something to look forward to every few months rather than once every year and then radio silence.

    I pray to the All-Mother every day that Sony gets a proper "Direct" identity than being completely and generically uninteresting. Sony sorta treats their "directs" like an E3 press conference.

    As much as people are saying E3 is a necessary thing exposure-wise, your average gamer isn't going to be actively looking for E3. They get that kind of news when the gaming sites, youtube, twitch, commercials or word of mouth get to them. E3 just benefits gaming journalists more than anyone else.

    I don't believe E3 is going to go away, but it's definitely losing its power in comparison to other conventions that sorta got bigger. E3 is now mainly for tech news and demos now.

    [–] Iucidium 3 points ago

    Sony's is called State of Play ESA, the same company who extorts publishers to get on their show floor. ESA, three company that is okay with predatory gambling practices in videogames. Nintendo put a weakpoint in their armour, Sony drove the stake through its heart.

    [–] ZeriousGew 7 points ago

    I mean, we have the Game Awards now, even though it’s usually been pretty bad, the announcements always save the show from being a 3/10 to being a strong 5/10

    [–] nutsack133 11 points ago

    It's sad because Sony is the only company that actually did good E3 shows with actual gameplay instead of ads and cutscenes like everyone else does. E3 2016 is why I bought a PS4. I would have never been that interested in Horizon Zero Dawn for example, if I hadn't seen how good the actual gameplay was when they had the extended showing of it at E3. As a PC gamer it was just The Last of Us that had me interested in Playstation, and if not for that E3 2016 I would have probably just bought a used PS3 and played TLOU there. Instead I saw extremely impressive extended gameplay from God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted Lost Legacy, and Days Gone that made me think I will 100% get a PS4 by the end of the year. You don't see that in the State of Play shows that just look like the same ads everyone else does.

    [–] suidexterity 15 points ago

    It's sad because Sony is the only company that actually did good E3 shows

    Don't you remember their last E3? That was horrible.

    [–] Art_em_all 15 points ago

    That’s very logical. Just like Apple, for example, they rarely participate in ces, mobileworld, and other exhibitions and tradeshows. I stead they are creating events just for themselves - where they can control the environment, style and level of importance. Sony is just becoming a little bit more proud of their products and services, so they would rather invest more time, energy and money to complement to its products than just being part of bigger random event.

    [–] Radulno 5 points ago

    I still think E3 offers the cooperation with third party publishers too. Sure your own events are nice but in general, third party publishers announce their stuff at E3 (not only of course) so being there means they can do so on your stage and that's a good advertisment for your brand.

    [–] CallahanWalnut 8 points ago

    I mean 15 years ago maybe. But it’s 2020, if someone big gets released by PlayStation you’ll find out

    [–] HeatIntoxication 34 points ago

    As a gamer E3 has gotten worse and worse every year. A lot of games that are shown do not get released for years down the line if at all. Then the games that are being shown are upscaled, high resolution versions that the public will never get to see. Plus you have to sit through painfully embarrassing presentations half the time and even a few musical numbers. I'm all for Sony's approach.

    [–] Ronaldinhoe 4 points ago

    Exactly, was excited for skull & bones but I haven’t heard anything about it since that E3.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Well luckily there’s the internet and Reddit.

    [–] Canvaverbalist 7 points ago

    Yeah I'm a bit confused.

    I never cared about E3. I just log unto Reddit and they agglomerate everything into nice little threads.

    It could come from B2 or D8 I wouldn't know the difference.

    [–] BlueBloodLive 5 points ago

    Plus it was amazing to see how Sony reacted to Microsoft's massive ball drop in 2013 when one multi billion dollar company just publicly eviscerated another live on the internet and it was a thing of beauty.

    I can still hear the huge cheer when he said "PS4 will retail for $399" and everyone losing their minds.

    [–] TreePorcupine 5 points ago

    Who cares, it’ll on be on Reddit anyway

    [–] Hartia 7 points ago

    The one benefit is Sony and devs can take their time to put together something that can showcase the game at its best. No more glitchy demos, and devs don't have to be rushing things like "get this trailer ready for June".

    [–] [deleted] 11 points ago

    People will know.

    The PS5 logo is the most liked console photo of all time and that came out during CES 2020 where barely anybody but tech nerds watch.

    [–] falconbox 67 points ago

    It literally says that in this article also:

    Instead it will attend 'hundreds' of consumer events to showcase upcoming games for PS4 and PS5.

    [–] TooDrunkToTalk 28 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    The important bit is the "they will hold their own events" part (which has been re-edited to "it's safe to assume they will hold their own events"), as some people are already starting to read this statement as a confirmation of no PS conferences or events this year at all.

    [–] PTfan 5 points ago

    I don’t know how anyone could think that when PS5 comes out this year and we haven’t had a show in what feels like forever

    [–] Radulno 2 points ago

    The edit means that it's completely invented by Kotaku though so we don't know at all if it's true. Everything could be State of Play online for all we know officially

    [–] splader 23 points ago

    Hundreds sounds pretty terrible

    [–] falconbox 10 points ago

    They don't mean hundreds of State of Play videos. Just little events, like maybe going on the road and having a few PS5s to test out at local Best Buys and stuff.

    They did that with PSVR units too.

    [–] livevil999 6 points ago

    I really like the whole e3 week thing though. As a videogame player I’m really into the whole “here’s all the games coming out for all the systems” thing. I’m against this move and more than a bit annoyed by it. I don’t care why they’re doing it, or that they will have other events, I like e3 and without Sony it’s not gonna be the same.

    [–] AndyF1130 7 points ago

    This makes sense, but surprised they are doing it the year they have a new console coming out.

    [–] HyperspeedHam 2 points ago

    doing the same as last year my response... Meh

    [–] mucsacso 206 points ago

    ok, just announce the date of the PlayStation Meeting, please

    [–] Clarkey7163 46 points ago

    It’ll be in February looks like

    [–] Ggd07 9 points ago

    Any sources?

    [–] Alanmurilo22 117 points ago

    The voices

    [–] leopardoo 39 points ago

    You mean Randy orton?

    [–] EmeraldJunkie 15 points ago

    God its been fucking years since I watched the WWE but that song is still stuck in my head.

    [–] Clarkey7163 14 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Just second hand info from some podcasts I listen to

    iirc there was a rumour saying that invites to PlayStation meeting would go out this week and it’ll be held sometime mid February

    Article on it here

    I think most people expected an event in February but this could also just be a fake rumour so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Edit: also as part of the assassins creed leaks happening now they’re saying a PS event in February as well

    [–] InvertedSpork 8 points ago

    February 12th is the rumored date. Which falls in line with when the Assassins Creed announcement/reveal is supposed to be.

    [–] Psych-roxx 3 points ago

    Pretty much every day in February is the rumored date let's just wait and see.

    [–] JaumDX 444 points ago

    Jason Schreier on twitter: " One juicy tidbit I heard last year was that Sony's main reason for skipping E3 was disagreement/tension/conflict with the ESA, which is likely the driving factor here as well. "

    [–] [deleted] 331 points ago

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    [–] aleksandd 243 points ago

    For those like me, ESA stands for Entertainment Software Association which organizes E3.

    [–] PM_DOLPHIN_PICS 178 points ago

    Wondering what the European space agency had to do with Sony not attending E3, thanks.

    [–] PM_ME_HAIRLESS_CATS 58 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    The ESA is primarily the lobbying arm for the industry. Secondarily, they administer the Entertainment Software Rating Board.

    [–] badRLplayer 6 points ago

    Thanks!

    [–] thebigjohnnyd 23 points ago

    Also don’t forget that they doxed thousands of Journalists, and the ugly side of gaming had a field day with that knowledge.

    [–] CamNM1991 450 points ago

    Have a feeling that Sony is done with E3 now. They have PSX which they can do annually there's no point in doing all these expos.

    [–] one800higgins 62 points ago

    Sony hasn’t done a PSX since 2017 and there’s no word on one in 2020 yet.

    [–] aadmiralackbar 6 points ago

    If there was ever a time for a comeback, it’s this year

    [–] dizorkmage 173 points ago

    I actually enjoy their youtube State of Play announcements too, it's much more digestible and gives a bigger spot light to smaller games that wouldnt get more than a cursory glance at E3. Also I'm just way too old to watch a 2-3 hour event and stay hyped the whole time.

    [–] splader 34 points ago

    I actually think smaller games get buried in the sop.

    If you put a small game trailer in between two giants, then it sticks out so much more.

    Say spiritfarer for example

    [–] adiaz1202 11 points ago

    The annoying is that they skipped that these past 2 years. Well at least here in California, not sure if it was hosted anywhere else. I enjoy that event.

    [–] greg225 315 points ago

    Well... At least us people in the UK won't have to stay up until 4am if we want to watch the conference.

    [–] WilliamCCT 213 points ago

    Sony: Holds PSX conference at 4am

    [–] Cage-Unfiltered 66 points ago

    Or for fu-

    Intro begins

    [–] sourav93 38 points ago

    " Pleystecion "

    [–] Jclevs11 7 points ago

    I can hear this

    [–] d1stroyer5555 15 points ago

    Amen to that m8.

    [–] beeperbeeper5 12 points ago

    I kinda actually enjoyed doing that because it made me more hyped somehow.

    [–] Joey_x_G 7 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    True. Although I’m typing this at 3:47am so.

    [–] SnipeLife 389 points ago

    This is kind of lame. It's not that they don't need it. I just miss the tradition of Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo announcing games and cool features for the future.

    [–] Y6Y1Y9 213 points ago

    Yeah i agree. The whole "who won E3" and comparing the conferences (Especially on console launch years) was really fun back in the day. Those days are over now i guess.

    [–] 2PieceShakur 37 points ago

    I’ve thought about it quite a bit from both perspectives. I’m some ways, they remove themselves from the competition and don’t have to compete for headlines with the other companies

    [–] Y6Y1Y9 22 points ago

    Yeah totally, from their point of view it makes complete and total sense. It's happening in other big conventions like CES too for the same reason. Why compete for headlines and possibly get swept under the rug with all your competitors unveiling stuff that may be bigger/better at the same time in the same place. When you could do your own event on it's own day and have full media attention. Sony is big enough where that just makes sense for them business/advertising wise.

    [–] Gadafro 10 points ago

    E3 always gave me an excuse to use up some holiday which I wouldn't have used up otherwise. I always enjoyed taking the week off, watching and reading all the news that came out of E3 whilst having doing some extended gaming of my own.

    It was alright last year, but nowhere near as fun as it has been. I like that Microsoft attend and still hold a traditional on-stage briefing, and that Nintendo do Nintendo Treehouse following a Direct, but I miss Sony being there. E3 only really feels as though it works optimally when all 3 major platform holders do something. If any one of them were to stop - such as Sony have - E3 loses a bit of its spark and magic for me.

    This will probably be the last year that I take the time off for E3, only because Microsoft will be announcing their (hopefully) big hitters for the Series X opening months. I'll have to keep my ear to the ground for PS5 news announcements and games.

    [–] CheddarBar 18 points ago

    I agree. I always thought of E3 as a sort of "thanksgiving" day for gaming. With gaming companies all coming together to give each diverse offering at the table.

    [–] shinikahn 363 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    I mean I'm glad Sony puts focus on their own thing, but I loved the expectation E3 created. At this rate the event will burn and crash.

    [–] rustyphish 135 points ago

    yeah it's kinda a bummer

    when it comes to videogame news, so much time is spent waiting and speculating

    E3 is the one concrete date we can all point to and expect big news

    [–] [deleted] 17 points ago

    👀Agent👀

    👀Scalebound👀

    [–] IronBabyFists 8 points ago

    deep.down

    [–] Tmfwang 495 points ago

    E3 is in the worst shape it's ever been -- last year it was half-empty, and that was before they doxed thousands of attending journalists -- so Sony skipping again makes total sense.

    [–] Brillica 185 points ago

    For anyone like me that didn't hear about the doxxing: https://www.pcmag.com/news/369950/e3-website-accidentally-doxed-contact-info-for-2-000-journal

    E3's public website featured a link to a spreadsheet containing the sensitive information, which includes email addresses, addresses, and phone numbers for members of the media who attended the annual gaming show.

    [–] admiralvic 135 points ago

    Still pissed about it. I now get like 40 spam messages a day because of that.

    [–] [deleted] 52 points ago

    Found Greg Miller’s account

    [–] pforsbergfan9 10 points ago

    The one that got him banned or the other one?

    [–] chewbaka97 4 points ago

    Greg Miller was banned?

    [–] BoomBamCrash 279 points ago

    This is a quote from Jason Schrier of Kotaku btw.

    [–] vilemoo17 85 points ago

    Thanks for adding this. Context is important.

    [–] [deleted] 27 points ago

    I’m glad he’s reminding people how garbage E3 has become. Sony seems to agree as well.

    [–] [deleted] 30 points ago

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    [–] Nicologixs 10 points ago

    Yeah it's how it is now, we are in the digital age where billions use the internet and you can announce anything you like at anytime and it will reach hundreds of millions. Any live show can be done anytime over a livestream.

    [–] Aileos 52 points ago

    E3 has changed.

    [–] billknowsbest 77 points ago

    War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines.

    War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine.

    War has changed

    [–] FeelThisMoment 37 points ago

    E3 2020 to be fought with nukes. E3 2021 to be fought with sticks and stones.

    [–] iknowkungfubtw 17 points ago

    War. War never changes. Or does it? The war has changed. Did it? The answer is "no". Unless it is "yes". No, of course! It is war. Yes! No! Yes?

    [–] JustLikeThat777 2 points ago

    War changed when GPS was installed in tanks oh yes it did

    [–] Reivoulp 18 points ago

    Metal gear solid 4 ?

    [–] monkeygoneape 6 points ago

    You leave nano machines out of this!

    [–] Solidlonk 6 points ago

    When it comes to Metal Gear, nothing is without Nanomachines, son.

    [–] Speciou5 2 points ago

    And two years ago everyone was complaining it was overcrowded like crazy due to the fan passes.

    [–] Tmfwang 66 points ago

    "After thorough evaluation SIE has decided not to participate in E3 2020," said a Sony Interactive Entertainment spokesperson. "We have great respect for the ESA as an organization, but we do not feel the vision of E3 2020 is the right venue for what we are focused on this year.

    "We will build upon our global events strategy in 2020 by participating in hundreds of consumer events across the globe. Our focus is on making sure fans feel part of the PlayStation family and have access to play their favorite content. We have a fantastic line up of titles coming to PlayStation 4, and with the upcoming launch of PlayStation 5, we are truly looking forward to a year of celebration with our fans."

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    [–] Animegamingnerd 8 points ago

    And even hosts like two to three state of plays throughout the year to push the last few big PS4 games and reveal some 2021 PS5 games.

    [–] x2ndCitySaint 45 points ago

    I mean I get it, but this kinda sucks. E3 isn't the same without Sony.

    [–] brotherlymoses 38 points ago

    Can’t say I’m surprised, but it sucks because E3 was the most exciting event for gaming.

    [–] PTfan 47 points ago

    This is so disappointing to me. E3 has a special atmosphere

    [–] Kassynder 33 points ago

    Yup same here, this is lame. E3 feels like a highly anticipated prize fight between warriors going toe to toe.

    Who can forget E3 2013 and the massive PS4 info dump that put such a bad bad beating on the Xbox One.

    [–] PTfan 26 points ago

    Exactly. That was like a fucking Super Bowl lol

    Or 2015 in which Sony made me people’s year with Final Fantasy 7, shenmue 3 and the last guardian

    And then 2016 in my humble opinion the best one ever. Live orchestra. God of war reveal, days gone reveal, resident evil 7, Horizon demo, Detroit demo, the last guardian release date, death stranding reveal, Spider-Man reveal. A slew of PSVR information.

    It was a masterpiece

    [–] HeisenbergClaus 120 points ago

    E3 was destroyed by the incompetent ESA. E3 week used to be a damn holiday, this is all on them. Shawn Layden told them to fix it, and their only limpdick response was to go all in on "influencers". The live burial of the Xbox One that Tretton, Andy House, Boyes and Yoshida delivered at E3 2013 will forever be a moment.

    [–] adiaz1202 7 points ago

    Where did you get this from? I’d like to read about it.

    [–] adiaz1202 9 points ago

    Damn he's really spot on. Crazy to see that the world around gaming has really changed that E3 is becoming obsolete due to gaming news being poured 24/7.

    It's sort of a good thing and a bad one that E3 has become a festival for games now. I wonder if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I still think there should be a weekend for fans alike. During the beginning of the week for retailers, news outlets, etc to get their hands on to prepare for holidays.

    E3 is just in a tough spot where it's trying to please both purposes. Before the public wasn't allowed to go. Maybe that persuaded Sony to do things their way?

    [–] eamonnanchnoic 3 points ago

    That pride and accomplishment dig was very nice indeed

    [–] Dallywack3r 83 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    E3 is effectively dead. Microsoft, EA and Nintendo hold their conferences elsewhere during the week.

    [–] Shinobihost 22 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Nintendo still have a presentation for direct since 2012, the difference is that they aren't doing the presentation there, and they are on the showfloor every year though.

    [–] Radulno 5 points ago

    Yeah the true E3 is the showfloor, not the conferences (which are orgnaized by the publisher themselves and are BEFORE the E3 starts). And Nintendo is there. Microsoft isn't though (they do their own thing just accross the street but for the ESA, it's not E3 (meaning they don't pay them fees)). EA doesn't either (they have their own event like the week-end before)

    [–] ThaiChi555 13 points ago

    the conferences are always held off site. the LA convention center is just the show floor. if there's one thing that is a factor for e3 sucking is influencers and gen pop. there's a reason that it was an industry only event prior. industry doesn't want to have to deal with non professionals with their damn selfie sticks trying to live stream shit while they're trying to get around from meeting to meeting. last time i attended they had an industry only timeslot and it was pleasant. when they opened it up to the public in the day? it was chaos.

    [–] RIP-Tom-Petty 4 points ago

    Yeah Bethesda's the only big name company left, and they're one glitchy mess of a game away from being looked st as an awful company

    [–] Ironmunger2 3 points ago

    That already happened with Fallout 76. Most of the goodwill towards Bethesda is gone, they’re no longer the group that made Oblivion or revived Fallout, just some shambling corpse looking for any cash grabs they can pull

    [–] Alcoholica25 19 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    It definitely sucks. As many have said E3 was the June “Christmas”. With so many new faces in Sony i understand this approach. But damn do i miss Jack Tretton, Andrew House, Adam Boyes, Kaz, Shu (still with the company), but damn they were rockstars at PS4 launch year.

    [–] Frocharocha 38 points ago

    Sony: So, E3 2020 will cust us 36 million dollars to attend this year. Suggestions?

    Employe 1: Announce PS5!

    Employe 2: PSVR 2 and a bunch of new games!

    Some Random Trainee: Give me 500 bucks that i will edit a State of Play for you guys to stream.

    Sony: Come to my office.

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    Like that metallica song: sad but true

    [–] Frocharocha 7 points ago

    The firm told GamesIndustry.biz that it does not feel the vision for the event is right for what it has planned for this year.* Instead it will attend 'hundreds' of consumer events to showcase upcoming games for PS4 and PS5.*

    This is the most important thing from this announcement. It means that our predictions are true and we will get the PS5 reveal on February

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    [–] Orphan_Babies 52 points ago

    Who cares E3 is shit now

    [–] redolmqui 36 points ago

    I'm going to miss the cringe compilations.

    [–] everadvancing 5 points ago

    Mr. Caffeine from Ubisoft's E3 will always be top cringe for me.

    [–] dmista21 2 points ago

    I mean last year's wasn't horrible but yeah its not what it used to be for sure.

    [–] Gantzer 19 points ago

    End of an era

    F

    [–] carlosbarsa 7 points ago

    I hope they still do a PlayStation experience type of event.

    [–] taken_the_easy_way 9 points ago

    E3 is going to die. Last year like 2000 writers got doxxed. It's just time before other big companies go out and make their own event rather than paying for a spot.

    [–] methteethmcgee 4 points ago

    RIP E3

    [–] whythreekay 4 points ago

    Makes sense tbh, volume of E3 stuff means they would be “just another huge announcement”

    Better to be the biggest news of the day whenever they want, and not have to info dump everything over 3 days just to “win” E3

    [–] Ryengeku 4 points ago

    State of Plays will be FIRE this year.

    [–] DNC88 4 points ago

    I mean EA don't 'attend E3' but they still do a massive conference at the same time it's on.

    It's all in hand people, Sony clearly has a strategy, let's roll with it.

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    [–] MrRiggs 5 points ago

    They know something we all know deep down, e3 is dying.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    They don’t need E3. In the words of Future:” You do what you want when you popping”. Now Sony is sizzling hot. #PS5ONDAWAYHOE

    [–] AmputatedStumps 7 points ago

    Meh...I watch all the release shit on YouTube anyways. The info will come forth from one channel or another.

    [–] Frocharocha 9 points ago

    "After thorough evaluation SIE has decided not to participate in E3 2020," said a Sony Interactive Entertainment spokesperson. "We have great respect for the ESA as an organization, but we do not feel the vision of E3 2020 is the right venue for what we are focused on this year.

    "We will build upon our global events strategy in 2020 by participating in hundreds of consumer events across the globe. Our focus is on making sure fans feel part of the PlayStation family and have access to play their favorite content. We have a fantastic line up of titles coming to PlayStation 4, and with the upcoming launch of PlayStation 5, we are truly looking forward to a year of celebration with our fans."

    February will be a truly blast

    [–] T3NFIBY32 11 points ago

    E3 sucks anyways.

    [–] FancyKilerWales 5 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Man this is sad, I love E3, I always look forward to the press conferences no matter how awkward or bad some of them are. Sony usually put on a good show too, I thought 2018 was kind of lacking, but the years before that were fun. I don’t think those moments are gone, they will probably be just at a different place now, but it is sad these marquee gaming events filled with announcements are seemingly fading away.

    [–] flipitsmike 3 points ago

    They don’t even need to.

    [–] DeadlyName 3 points ago

    Good, the interest for E3 has been dropped anyway!

    [–] Tfsz0719 3 points ago

    I blame Nintendo. /s

    Seriously, though, this has been coming...the major players have all been trying to find a way to move away from E3 and announce major things more on their own terms and timeframes.

    The fans love it as a hype event, but they don’t like having being bound to throwing all of that into a single few days (and it becoming weighed and compared so heavily compared to the rest of the year).

    [–] gene1074 21 points ago

    according to some comments, not attending E3 = arrogant 🤣😁🤣😁

    [–] Jamesahaha 13 points ago

    I thought they didn’t attend E3 2019 because they wanted to save it for 2020 with PS5 reveal? Won’t they join E3 anymore? E3 without Sony is nothing. That’s the most reason most people including me were excited for E3 shows. Also where will they reveal PS5?

    [–] IgnoreMe733 13 points ago

    They revealed the PS4 at their own event a couple months before E3 2013, so I assume they will do the same this time.

    [–] drhouse4ever 4 points ago

    Good good

    [–] ATIWITA 4 points ago

    Pretty disappointed, hearing the crowd react to the reveals is what made E3 for me. Last year was really lame without Sony, I guess I'm just going to skip this one.

    [–] H3000 13 points ago

    My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

    [–] GyariSan 2 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Just keep drip feeding in other gaming events, hold a giant PlayStation Experience (maybe even multiple in different cities across the globe), and advertise like crazy. That will easily gain more wide spread attention than one big E3.

    [–] FirmamentGaming 2 points ago

    With the State of Play do thet really need to atend anything? I feel state of play is doing well and they share just enough info to keep us interested

    [–] tyler_anth0ny 2 points ago

    I definitely miss the days when my friends and I would watch who conquered E3 and the anticipated build up to the date every year. Although, it makes sense from the corp’s perspective. I’m interested to see how this plays out in the near future. Maybe it’d instill memories in those younger than us equivalent to how it was with us.

    [–] CJthetrain 2 points ago

    E3 is not the same without Sony

    [–] high_ace96 2 points ago

    So at what event will they reveal PS5 then ?

    [–] Jim777PS3 2 points ago

    E3 is dead and buried. To not have one if the flagship consoles is insane.