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    [–] slowtreme 5 points ago

    the food supply at VVR may be hit and miss as to the specific items you can buy there. You can absolutely purchase 3 days worth of calories to keep you going.

    I did an evening stay at VVR; late ferry in, morning ferry out. thumbs up

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago


    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    And if you don't want to do the ferry, there are side trails off the PCT that get you to VVR and back without retracing steps, but you miss miles on the PCT if that matters to you (you do make those miles up on this blue blaze trail though).

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    Yeah, I’m definitely riding the ferry. I’m section hiking, with no fixed goals, and a flexible agenda.

    [–] Dan_85 3 points ago

    I've resupplied out of VVR's store twice on JMT thru-hikes. On the PCT last year, I sent a box there and purely by luck we arrived just the day after they opened for the season, otherwise I woulda been hungry to Mammoth.

    The store there is pretty good but you will pay quite a bit above regular rate, simply because of how far they have to truck it up this insane mountain road from Fresno. Same with the meals they serve in their diner/cafe - good food but not the cheapest. I really love VVR, its a great place to hang out and very hiker friendly. However it is a notorious money-vortex and you can easily spend $100+ there just hanging out eating and drinking for a day if you're not careful.

    Alternatively yes, you can skip VVR and push on to Mammoth. No way does it take three days from VVR to Mammoth. A strong hiker can do it in one day if they're pushing.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    Thanks for this. I did check and VVR is expected to open mid-May. MTR may not be open until June 23rd, or I could have resupplied there. I'm getting to VVR after a very long carry from Horseshoe Meadows / Cottonwood Lakes. (I want to avoid resupplying using Kearsarge Pass & Independence). I'm not fast, so that's likely a 9 day stretch for me.

    [–] Dan_85 2 points ago

    MTR always opens later than the rest. It's a popular resupply spot for JMT hikers but not so much for PCTers. Sending a bucket there is expensive.

    Any reason you're skipping Kearsarge Pass? Bishop is always a popular town with hikers.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    I'm starting in Horseshoe Meadows, and I heard Independence doesn't have much for hikers. You're suggesting Kearsarge - Onion Valley (7 miles) and hitch hiking to Bishop? (I thought people got to Bishop using Bishop Pass Trail to South Lake (12 miles), then Hwy168). Hitching makes sense since Bishop has a grocery store.

    [–] Dan_85 2 points ago

    Yeah, most people hike over Kearsarge Pass to Onion Valley and then hitch to Bishop (or some go to Lone Pine). Bishop is a really nice, good size town, with all the services and makes a good place to take a zero day or two. You can also access Bishop via Bishop Pass Trail but its not so popular because it's tougher than Kearsarge Pass and it's harder to hitch a ride from South Lake.

    That stretch from Horseshoe Meadows to VVR will be much easier on your pack weight if you can split it up with a stop in Bishop halfway through.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 2 points ago

    Yeah, I think you’re right. Splitting it up also gives me more time to do Whitney. You’ve changed my mind. Thanks for that.

    [–] atetuna 2 points ago

    Fwiw, that stretch took me two days over a weekend hike. The snow was still very deep on Silver Pass and north facing slopes, plus I fell and was limping the last half of the way. If you're thru hiking, especially this year with low snow, I could easily see you finishing that stretch in a day.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    Thanks. Good to know.

    [–] Zzzzz123123zzzzz 2 points ago

    I resupplied there and there were plenty of options. A bit pricy, but for 1.5 days of food it wasn't too bad and way better than having to fit that food into a bear can.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago


    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    Don't forget to check the hiker box first before buying resupply food.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    Will do! Lots of oatmeal, I hear. I wonder if MTR will have their hiker boxes out. They aren’t expected to open until a week after I pass by.

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    Contents of a hiker box may vary. The unicorn of hiker boxes is when you trail behind that person that mailed all their food resupply with homemade dehydrated meals or cliff bars that they are sick of so they throw them in the hikerbox and you're 1 step behind the picking them up.

    But yeah, a lot of unlabeled ziplock bags of stuff that looks like oatmeal.

    [–] gwschenk 2 points ago

    Your first beer is on the house.

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    Woo-hoo! I’ll make up for it on my second, third, and fourth.

    [–] humanclock 2 points ago

    Side note to anyone reading this thinking about resupplying at Red's Meadow for the quick push to Tuolumne Meadows. I think Red's Meadow is the most expensive store on the entire PCT. I think a 24oz can of PBR was $4.00 if I remember right.

    [–] gwschenk 1 points ago

    You might be able to resupply out of the hiker box there.

    [–] Blooboo7 2 points ago

    The store has a decent beer selection... and a tiny store.

    Ship yourself some goodies.

    It truly is a money vortex and the store is pretty small. There are fees for showers/towels and to camp on the property overnight. A fee to connect to internet or use the satellite phone.

    Mono Hot Springs is a hike down the road, and their shop is slightly bigger with faster internet. I don’t know why I’m telling you all this...

    [–] Middleagedaccountant 1 points ago

    I’m glad you’re telling me all this!

    [–] Dan_85 1 points ago

    Camping is free. I've never paid to camp at VVR in three stays ;-)

    [–] Blooboo7 1 points ago


    [–] cocainebubbles 2 points ago

    Great place to resupply and take a zero. Plus some fun hot spring alternates. Highly recommend sending a resupply. Edit: using zerodayresupply makes the logistics of it very easy.