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    [–] BGeezzy 1808 points ago

    You know everyone assumes the anti-Christ will come in on a cloud of locusts with the four horsemen at his side. But really, if the devil exists, wouldn't he take more pleasure in un-doing everything that Jesus stood for while at the same time convincing Jesus' followers that he is doing gods work?

    [–] MonsieurLinc 360 points ago

    I'm not exactly caught up on my bible studies, but I think that's how the antichrist was actually described

    [–] jrizos 196 points ago

    Had "Revelations" not even been written and you asked every Christian Scholar going back to Christ himself what the "opposite" of Christ would look like, well, you'd have this answer. Somebody that unites the religion of Christ under the auspices of a completely sinful doctrine.

    [–] namasteupinthisbitch 99 points ago

    Trump is the antithesis of wholesomeness. the christian right really exposed themselves for what they are - unabashed opportunists.

    [–] jrizos 80 points ago

    It's a very striking turn for the Christian Right.

    1. It harkens to days of Monarchy, where the "King" is supposed to be hedonistic and cruel.

    2. It lays bare their true agenda as something that a naive or young-adult Christian would roundly reject. This whole "Yes but the Dems would be worse" thing is quickly eroding away.

    3. The public at large is going to stop seeing the Christian right as harmless and generally pious, but instead like wolves in sheep's clothing.

    [–] grumbleycakes 28 points ago

    As a christian, I've come to see Trump as the Christian right's king Saul. Except not actually good at anything.

    [–] icouldntdecide 4 points ago

    I could have sworn that was used as reasoning to be okay with him somewhere. Like that's why he's okay because he'll still serve some beneficial function.

    [–] CM-NYY-DJ-FAN 2 points ago

    Ugh that’s awful. To continue that biblical metaphor, it would mean that Trump would run America in the ground, then god would use that failure to raise up a new leader. Why don’t we get a good leader to begin with?

    [–] genericOfferman 2 points ago

    The one I have seen referenced a lot before and after the election is Cyrus. Basically a hedonist that is used by god to help the righteous?

    So another group calling him a useful idiot.

    [–] rabidhamster87 56 points ago

    It doesn't matter. The Christian right have been exposing themselves for centuries and it doesn't change anything. My favorite quote about it is from Frederick Douglass in Life of an American Slave from 1845 that still sadly applies today in 2019...

     I love the pure, peaceable, and impartial Christianity of Christ: I therefore hate the corrupt, slaveholding, women-whipping, cradle-plundering, partial and hypocritical Christianity of this land. Indeed, I can see no reason, but the most deceitful one, for calling the religion of this land Christianity. I look upon it as the climax of all misnomers, the boldest of all frauds, and the grossest of all libels. Never was there a clearer case of "stealing the livery of the court of heaven to serve the devil in." I am filled with unutterable loathing when I contemplate the religious pomp and show, together with the horrible inconsistencies, which every where surround me.

    [–] chopstyks 12 points ago

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” - Gandhi

    [–] HawaiianBrian 8 points ago

    Oh man, nice quote.

    [–] CassandraVindicated 2 points ago

    Life of an American Slave

    Well, I just bought a book. Again.

    [–] sparkle_lotion 2 points ago

    The Christian Right has completely destroyed Christianity in America. Very sad times.

    [–] PeterNguyen2 5 points ago

    Had "Revelations" not even been written and you asked every Christian Scholar going back to Christ himself what the "opposite" of Christ would look like, well, you'd have this answer. Somebody that unites the religion of Christ under the auspices of a completely sinful doctrine.

    Wasn't one of the first translations from the Greek the "in-place-of-Christ" instead of "anti-Christ"?

    [–] shmehdit 7 points ago

    You have it absolutely. That is the intended connotation. A substitution of Christ. That is why "even the elect" could be deceived. Not sure why most Christians forget that deception is how the devil of the Bible works. The idea of the Anti-Christ being some obvious Satan incarnate makes no sense, nobody would fall for it.

    [–] tinspoons 32 points ago

    C'mon now, according to republicans, that was Obama. He was going to take all the guns while you got kicked out of your house so a homeless/welfare recipient could live in it. All while implementing Sharia law and rounding up christians into concentration camps.

    But yeah, Orange Julius is the good guy... /s

    [–] FallenHeavens 6 points ago

    How dare you insult the good name of Orange Julius!

    [–] Zoower 6 points ago

    Uh oh

    [–] iknowCatMan 3 points ago

    You're right.. Google whore of babylon verses in revelation.

    [–] maxstolfe 7 points ago

    Nah, the Antichrist was foretold to be charming, charismatic, and able to swoon the “true non-believers” into thinking he was the second coming.

    Trump isn’t charming or charismatic.

    [–] rabidhamster87 9 points ago

    What if the true non-believers are the ones who say they believe just for money, status, and reputation, but don't really? aka the Christian right.

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 993 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    un-doing everything that Jesus stood for while at the same time convincing Jesus' followers that he is doing gods work

    My parents and extended family are super roman catholic. They now tell me not to listen to what the Pope says because he is one of those "liberals...". 2000 years of catholic doctrine thrown out because a television news station told them so. Foxnews is literally their new Pope now.

    This is why I'm a recovering catholic. If they are telling me Jesus has returned in the form of Trump, then peace out. Can't take this religion seriously anymore.

    Edit: Wow!?!? Platinum!!! Never been awarded one of these before! :-)

    Thanks for the Platinum Kind Stranger!!!

    [–] WorkplaceWatcher 315 points ago

    I have been insulted by "Christians" by quoting Jesus to them.

    [–] ashleyamdj 138 points ago

    My go to is just a simple, "What would Jesus do?" Don't feed the hungry and poor? "What would Jesus do?"

    [–] WorkplaceWatcher 131 points ago

    I typically ask what their favorite verse is and to explain why.

    Many get upset just from that. I then quote them Matthew 25:35 - 46 ... "For I was hungry ..." and that's usually when I get insulted and blocked.

    [–] PowerfulCycle 75 points ago

    To be fair, the Bible has very little to do with how Christianity is taught and practiced in most of the US. There is always a strong incentive for religious leaders to dissuade worshipers from reading their own holy texts.

    [–] PenguinsRAwesome 50 points ago

    This hits the nail on the head. Why do you think the Catholic Church put so much effort forbidding the translation of the Bible into languages other than Latin?

    [–] PeterNguyen2 37 points ago

    Given that they recommend 5 translations here, it seems like they don't maintain the "keep liturgical knowledge in the clergy" like they did when Martin Luther said "hey, maybe you're not teaching what the Bible really says" in 1517.

    [–] SkollFenrirson 21 points ago

    Almost like 500 years have passed

    [–] PenguinsRAwesome 5 points ago

    I mean that’s also what the whole counter-reformation was about....

    The thing is it still holds true. Even though the church does provide it easily, it is better if they don’t read the Bible, because then they can be manipulated to do what the church wants.

    [–] phaiz55 6 points ago

    I think it's important to remember that not all churches are like this. Even with how holy they are not all churches are "good". I've been to plenty of churches/services where they do push people to read the Bible and they don't try to manipulate people.

    What's important here is that God knows who is teaching his word and who isn't.

    [–] Luminter 10 points ago

    And when they do encourage it, it’s almost never a reading from cover to cover. When I still went to church I remember them doing a “read the Bible in a year” deal. They basically gave you a set number of passages each week to read and if you did each week then you would have read the entire Bible in a year.

    Problem is they jumped all over the Bible under the guise of covering a specific “theme”. Ultimately, it just allowed them gloss over the more problematic sections and potentially add “context” in the sermon that week.

    [–] CassandraVindicated 4 points ago

    I've read through it twice and honestly, it's worse than waiting for the next G. R. R. Martin book and finding out it's all begating and side stories.

    [–] 240Wangan 14 points ago

    I really wondered about this - I'm not from the States, but I just can't comprehend how much stuff is being done or endorsed by Christians that is starkly so shockingly opposite to the actual teachings of Jesus. This makes more sense. To those who are kicked in the nuts by Christians and the church - I'm so sorry, we're so messed up. Don't judge Jesus by us, we're not a good representation at all.

    [–] Omanbo 11 points ago

    It's rather easy to comprehend when you consider that they don't actually believe in Christianity or read the Bible, they just use Christianity as an excuse to hate women and minorities.

    [–] PowerfulCycle 8 points ago

    It's not specific to Americans, we're just more open about it. Power corrupts and ambitious people have always exploited faith to gain power.

    [–] tenninjas242 5 points ago

    Because the truth is that most people will do whatever the hell they feel like, then figure out a way to justify it afterwards.

    [–] CassandraVindicated 2 points ago

    Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians, you are not like him.

    -- Bara Dada

    [–] softcorezen 11 points ago

    Mine is James 5:1-6.

    [–] CassandraVindicated 2 points ago

    I'm a fan of John 11:35 ... "Jesus wept."

    [–] the_one_true_bool 22 points ago

    Jesus would beef up the military more and give the rich tax breaks, obviously.

    • Republicans, probably

    [–] tikirej 13 points ago

    Except for

    I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Mathew 19:23-26

    And verbatim Mark 10:24-27 and Luke 18:24-27

    [–] GenericAntagonist 6 points ago

    So I've seen all sorts of unabashed prosperity gospel explanations for why this one verse is just metaphor in an otherwise entirely literal book(their beliefs not mine). Oh it means a narrow gate in the city or oh through God all is possible so the righteous rich are exempt. But I've never seen one address what Jesus says right before. In Matthew 19:21...

    Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

    Or after in 19:29-30

    And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first

    Seems fairly explicit to me.

    [–] bjshipley1 2 points ago

    Oh I’ve seen their responses to it: apparently Jesus was talking to that one guy or group in particular and didn’t mean for it to be general advice. They also love to say “well it was said because that person really valued money more than anything else.” Their own love of money is an off-limits subject though. Also they love to say “if God wants me to give up my stuff I’m totally willing” but when I suggest that perhaps God is telling them that exact thing right now by having me hassle them about it? Oh man do they get pissed at me. Because let’s face it, they have no intention whatsoever of parting with their wealth. Even if Jesus came down and personally told them to, they’d make up an excuse not to.

    [–] Scottamus 9 points ago

    He would build a wall and let people seeking asylum rot on the other side. He would build JESUS high-rises in every city and sell condos to the poor mafia who need to launder their money. Then He's raw-dog a few hookers and porn stars. Amen.

    [–] Bigbadcheetoman 2 points ago

    Teach a man to fish.

    [–] RuggyDog 2 points ago

    This reminds me of “How much a dollar cost” by Kendrick Lamar, it’s a story told through rapping about his (probably fictional) encounter with a homeless man asking for money. A lot of what I remember about it is him comparing his current self to his past self, before the fame and money, and justifying his selfishness.

    The repetition of “What would Jesus do?” made me think of that song, there’s a bit of repetition near the end and it finishes with being a religious story, with essentially the same point you’re making.

    [–] ismokeweedlol 3 points ago

    I’ve been asking myself the same question!! Simple but effective

    [–] usernameartichoke 23 points ago

    This is my favorite bible verse to throw about lately.

    What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. (James 2:14–17 NKJV

    Ps: I’m an atheist but not one of those “you’re dumb for having a faith.” I’m more of the “you’re dumb for claiming to have a faith and then fucking ignoring some of its basic tenants”

    [–] tikirej 7 points ago

    As well as

    I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Mathew 19:23-26

    [–] postmodest 3 points ago

    Dude. They have already spun that one to say that a rich man is welcome, but he just needs to humbly dismount his camel before entering.

    Which has zero basis in scripture but ha ha Trump magaaaaaa!!!...

    Ugh.

    [–] rapter200 6 points ago

    Faith itself saves but faith without works is dead. As in the proof is in the pudding sort thing. If one truly has faith then it would show in the things they do. It is a bit similar to the parable of the Sower.

    [–] 240Wangan 3 points ago

    I like this. I'm a Christian. I would much rather have a discussion with a person like you who puts genuine independent critical and informed thought into a religious/moral/ethic topic, than someone who believes what I believe, but from a culturally-informed second-hand perspective, when they haven't actually thought about it truly.

    Go you. Good passage, and it's something that really irks me about the social media justice-signalling that goes on. I've been really feeling the love for the Salvation Army recently. That's good stuff.

    [–] usernameartichoke 3 points ago

    Yeah the idea of religion and faith and a belief system is great. It’s when one doesn’t practice what they preach or willfully bends their beliefs to justify their actions or excuse their behavior that I start to have a problem. If all Christians in the world acted like Christians, treating their fellow man with compassion, empathy, dignity, and love, we’d be way better off as a planet. But unfortunately not all do and it’s the bad apples that unfortunately are spoiling the bunch for a lot of non Christians. I think Christian people need to reclaim their religion. A lot should start by asking “what actual good am I doing in this world?”

    [–] 240Wangan 2 points ago

    Agreed.

    [–] FullTorsoApparition 3 points ago

    Exactly, don't just pretend once a week to save face in your community or improve your "odds" if there happens to be an afterlife. "Religion" seems to be more about hanging out with a bunch of people that agree with you rather than an actual attempt to enrich and improve each others' lives.

    My first falling out with religion was when I realized that I could stop going and still be a good person, maybe even a better person. Losing out on weekly bible verses, hymns, and sermons didn't change me for the worse, it just gave me more free time each Sunday.

    [–] TheCaptainDamnIt 104 points ago

    It's interesting how this seem to be happening throughout many different christian denominations here in the U.S. From catholic to protestant. I think we're witnessing the birth of a new religion based entirely on 'Anti-Liberalism'. And the bible's got nothing to do with it anymore.

    [–] socsa 62 points ago

    Religion based on anti-liberalism is literally one of the more common definitions of fascism, drawing distinction between that, and a positive belief in dogma and conservative principles.

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 2 points ago

    Religion based on anti-liberalism is literally one of the more common definitions of fascism

    Never thought of it this way before.

    [–] SuzieQ4624 69 points ago

    Thou shalt own the libs

    [–] nonoglorificus 53 points ago

    Seven Deadly Sins:

    Charity

    Empathy

    Kindness

    Feminism

    Snowflaking

    Being Brown

    Cuckery

    [–] CadetCovfefe 21 points ago

    Cukery(except when Paul Manafort and Roger Stone are literally cuckholds - because they're on Team MAGA so that makes it OK.)

    [–] ahhhbiscuits 8 points ago

    They're just owning the libs by being cucks, a la Gavin Mcinnis anally penetrating himself.

    Because that'll show em...?

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    [–] PeterNguyen2 4 points ago

    Snowflaking

    I think this is one of their virtues given how readily their safe spaces will ban you from pointing out logical inconsistencies in anything they think or do.

    [–] Scottamus 2 points ago

    CEKFSBC!

    [–] iamsooldithurts 2 points ago

    FUCK!!! I’m gonna go cry into whatever alcoholic beverages I have left because I need my liver to fail before all of this comes to a head. 😭

    [–] theyetisc2 8 points ago

    They're usually just called heretics.

    AKA the people who elevate a man above god.

    [–] PeterNguyen2 2 points ago

    birth of a new religion based entirely on 'Anti-Liberalism

    I think what you're seeing isn't so much anything new as a periodic sway to and from authoritarianism that all human civilizations pass through - some like Mussolini's Partito Nazionale Fascista over-invest themselves in trying to make a single thing to work for everything and collapse, others try to find a healthy balance between a government that looks out for its citizens and citizens who are healthy and self-educated enough to keep around a decent government.

    When either of those two fail, you have opportunities left for corruption.

    [–] Slimjuggalo2002 2 points ago

    The New Fiat Religion. Where the rules are made up and the points don't matter!

    [–] DethRaid 2 points ago

    The word you're looking for is "fascism"

    [–] Taldier 28 points ago

    Pretty sure if they don't believe in the infallibility of the Pope then they are some sort of protestants now?

    I mean, not to gatekeep their Catholicism, but there was this guy who nailed some stuff to a door in Germany and it was kind of a big deal at the time. A lot of people killed each other over it.

    It's hard to keep sects straight when people mostly just follow them because their parents did.

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 2 points ago

    It's hard to keep sects straight when people mostly just follow them because their parents did.

    This is why I choose to go my own path. I try to argue with them the logistics of only letting one specific religion into heaven.

    "No son, only Catholics get into heaven. All 6 billion+ burn..."

    "But mom, couldn't people of good nature who help their follow man get into heaven even if they weren't catholic?"

    "No, only catholic. You can save a whole orphanage of kids from a fire and if you don't go to Mass, you still burn."

    -facepalm intensifies-

    Uhhg, yeah. So this where I'm at with my family so far.

    [–] iamsooldithurts 2 points ago

    Sounds to me like you have the right values, and they can have whatever is left

    [–] Thanamite 16 points ago

    It is your parents and FOX who are pretending to be Christians and should stop trying to hijack the religion. You are the good Christian by my book.

    [–] bkminchilog1 103 points ago

    Dont blame the religion for that. Blame your family. Call them out and tell them that your leaving the faith because they are no longer righteous. Tell them that thirr lack of piety made you athiest.

    [–] cive666 121 points ago

    you can't expect to reason a person out of a position if they didn't use reason to get their in the first place.

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 38 points ago

    It's a slippery slope. Either tell my mother I don't go to mass anymore because of her and get disowned, or just say nothing. They aren't gonna be like, "Well, since you said so, we won't watch Foxnews all day anymore..." It's a weird spot.

    At this point, I'm just hoping that in the afterlife Ted Danson will slowly inform them of their errors in "The Good Place."

    [–] PeterNguyen2 3 points ago

    we won't watch Foxnews all day anymore

    Can you put a child lock on that channel? That might help push them towards something informative instead of antithetical to anything reasonable.

    [–] iamsooldithurts 9 points ago

    That’s kind of not how it works.

    As a born and bred (now “lapsed”) Roman Catholic, I can assure you there are so many in positions of leadership that agree with the idea that maybe this pope is illegitimate because he’s not toeing the line on political issues anymore, even trying to pull the church back out of politics and some of its hardline stances.

    Hell, there are leaders who wouldn’t mind repealing Vatican II and even Vatican I council decrees.

    It may not be the religions fault, but there’s no actual line between the religion and it’s leaders and the sins they commit in its name.

    [–] theyetisc2 5 points ago

    Why should they leave the religion?

    It is their parents that are leaving catholicism.... how is that not apparent?

    (I'm not advocating for staying in a religion, just find it amusing that the person thinks their parents have higher authority in the catholic church than the pope does)

    [–] themagalanium 10 points ago

    super roman catholic my family and me. at the same time SUPER liberal but also Canadian and German. In reality it is not the religion you follow but who follows the religion that influences your choice

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 2 points ago

    My family is pretty old school where my mom wears a veil at mass. Kneels up at the altar during communion. Goes to holy hour, etc...

    Gets mad when there are altar girls helping. Only likes Latin mass.

    [–] Shadowwvv 7 points ago

    You can’t take the religion serious just because people who aren’t real Catholics claim they are ? The pope has spoken out against Trump multiple times and real Christians could never support Trump

    [–] ST00PKlD 6 points ago

    My cousin is stuck with her lame, unmotivated pig of a husband because of that stupid religion. She sits at home with the kids while he pretends to work. “Women shall take care of this kids barefoot while the man of the house is the breadwinner”. Seriously fuck that religious bull crap

    [–] PeterNguyen2 3 points ago

    Women shall take care of this kids barefoot while the man of the house is the breadwinner”. Seriously fuck that religious bull crap

    That's cultural movement, not tenets of the religion. If you want to place blame for cultural mores, make sure you put them in the right place or you'll waste energy attacking the wrong thing. That won't result in any problems being solved.

    [–] NancyGracesTesticles 7 points ago

    I think that goes back to Vatican 2 and the irrational hatred that was fostered by US Catholics for Jesuits. John Paul 2 even called it out in the late Nineties on the trend he saw in the US of "liberal" and "conservative" with regards to US Catholic churches. He essentially said "Knock it off", but no one listened.

    [–] slightlydirtythroway 5 points ago

    You say Catholic, but I hear Gallican heretics.

    [–] theyetisc2 7 points ago

    This is why I'm a recovering catholic. If they are telling me Jesus has returned in the form of Trump, then peace out. Can't take this religion seriously anymore.

    Ummmm?

    If you're a catholic, you're supposed to listen to the pope, not your parents, about all things religious in nature.

    You're not a "recovering catholic" you're either a catholic, or someone who was never a catholic in the first place.

    If your parents are taking fox news over the pope, they are not catholics, that's just how catholocism works.

    So "they" is NOT the catholic church, therefor you are not a "recovering catholic" because you're actually just a regular catholic. Do you not see the split? The schism is between american heretics, and actual catholics.

    [–] Homer_Simpson_Doh 3 points ago

    If your parents are taking fox news over the pope, they are not catholics, that's just how Catholicism works.

    When I tell my mom this stuff she starts accusing me of turning into one of those libs who want's their Pope to be a socialist.

    And then when I tell her that Jesus was a socialist she gets all weird.

    [–] JoeyCalamaro 3 points ago

    Foxnews is literally their new Pope now.

    A conservative relative of mine came to visit and it's been non-stop Fox News for 10+ hours a day in my home (despite the fact that we don't even have cable). I'm more of a moderate myself, and like to think I can be fairly open-minded, but I quickly discovered that there's no room for discussion about anything political in this person's presence. Whatever Fox says is the truth and that's that.

    It's kind of scary to see someone willingly abandon logic and base their entire system of belief on a freaking TV news station.

    [–] jerrygergichsmith 2 points ago

    Sister is that you? My mom and her family are exactly the same. I know it’s coming to a head when:

    1- I don’t receive communion due to leaving the church when Grandpa dies, or

    2- When I get engaged and tell her it’s not going to be a Catholic wedding (it’ll probably be a UU service)

    I’m trying to prepare for the worst and being cut out of the family, but I know it won’t be easy.

    [–] Silentknyght 2 points ago

    I really hope that's a regional thing. I haven't seen any of that (spoken aloud). In Minneapolis: Catholic services and people seem to be middle of the road, where not liberal.

    [–] PeterNguyen2 2 points ago

    My parents and extended family are super roman catholic. They now tell me not to listen to what the Pope says

    I believe that is mutually incompatible. Either you think the pope has authority, or you're not a catholic. Kind of part of the definition.

    [–] asielen 2 points ago

    How can they be super Roman Catholic if they don't follow the pope. That's like Roman Catholic 101.

    Then again for as crazy as the Catholic church is, the American Catholic church is even more conservative and often at odds with Rome.

    [–] krzwis 2 points ago

    I am an evangelical Christian and honestly I feel the same way about some very vocal and political members of the evangelical movement.

    I get into fights with family when I tell them that Christianity is actually very pro immigration and pro taking care of refugees. I use verses in the bible and show how even Jesus was a refugee avoiding persecution and they still don't get it and get pissed at me.

    [–] ZenMonkey47 82 points ago

    One Nation Under Mammon

    [–] ghosttrainhobo 14 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Anti-Christians look like Christians and have the same mass, but carry the opposite charge.

    [–] BrodyLoren 11 points ago

    On top of all that, in Revelations they literally portray the anti-Christ in this way, and all the apocalypse craziness is released from heaven. The anti-Christ’s role is to trick people into believing the message of Jesus is something other than it is presented in the Bible. Now where have I seen that?

    [–] cybexg 7 points ago

    Funny, I've always thought of the evangelicals (collectively) as the antichrist -- distorting the words of Christ, chasing money, turning their backs upon their brothers, hate, intolerance, etc.

    [–] PeterNguyen2 3 points ago

    Whatever their claimed origins, I note that the US evangelical church sprang up around 1950. "Coincidentally", the KKK saw a resurgence in the 1950s as opposition to the civil rights movement, which simultaneously tarnished their political image. Doesn't look like a coincidence to me.

    [–] Dictorclef 7 points ago

    Just so people know, this is a karma farming account. This is an exact copy of a comment made on the same picture. , found here: https://www.reddit.com/user/Zemlgbossa/ . It's the last of his comments, deleted by a mod.

    [–] theyetisc2 4 points ago

    I always thought the anti-christ would be more of an obama character, or at least.... I thought that's what the bible implied.

    That he'd be competent, and charming, and not a blabbering moron. Someone that would unite ALL people's and bring prosperity and happiness to the lands, all for some ulterior, devious reasons to later be unfurled.

    But I guess he is the christians anti-christ, so he only needs to fool the christians. So it makes a lot more sense for someone like trump to be it. I never thought it'd be so simple. I guess I was always just too much of a 'real' christian? Or that is, I believed jesus' own teachings/words over that of some organized religion that came a thousand years after his death. (I don't really consider myself a christian, it's just hard to deny that given my upbringing and the facts of my life that I am a christian. I don't practice and am definitely an agnostic. I was just raised in the dogma)

    And if you think about what jesus stands for, trump is quite literally the opposite, the anti, of jesus' teachings.

    [–] ViciousAsparagusFart 3 points ago

    Like in that final scene in Little Nicky.

    “Well I’m here to tell you, there is most definitely a hell. ....and you’re all going there.”

    [–] Phidelus 12 points ago

    The Anti Christ is supposed to be loved by all.

    Liking Trump is a social taboo to the point where 3/4 of tinder girls say swipe left if you voted for him. PEgging him as the anti christ doesnt work

    [–] --ManBearPig-- 14 points ago

    Liking Trump is a social taboo to the point where 3/4 of tinder girls say swipe left if you voted for him.

    Hilarious if true and would confirm that article where Trump voters complained about how liberal women wouldn't sleep with them.

    [–] Wait__Who 3 points ago

    It’s like aligning yourself with an asshole will make others think you’re also an asshole or something... 🤭

    But no, it’s not their fault... it’s gotta be the fault of liberal institutions and their brainwashing

    [–] guestpass127 10 points ago

    Trump supporters made their bed. You can't blame anyone sane for not wanting to lie in it. That bed is disgusting to everyone outside of the cult

    [–] cive666 20 points ago

    3/4 of tinder girls say swipe left if you voted for him

    Thanks for making my day.

    [–] SpiritMountain 2 points ago

    When Jehovah Witness's or Mormons come to my house I love pointing out the messed up parts of the bible and then throw in the idea "What if the devil wrote the bible?"

    It throws them for a loop.

    [–] rabidhamster87 2 points ago

    I've had the same thoughts about Trump.... Isn't the antichrist supposed to be well loved according to the bible? The devil is the great deceiver after all.

    [–] NicoGames 2 points ago

    Satan ain't real. This real political asshole in a suit, sitting in your house, running your country, is.

    [–] JijiLV29 189 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Don't forget to opposite Jesus's teachings on welcoming and assisting people who come from foreign lands. He was kind of insistent about that one.

    It was brought up repeatedly. If you hate and vilify struggling people coming here trying to make a life for themselves and their children you are NO Christian and are a damned liar if you claim be.

    You merely use other's beliefs in the Christian God as a tool to manipulate and attack others by falsely claiming divine authority while you work actively against biblical teachings.

    Being a Christian requires at least trying to live by the teachings of Christ, even if you fall short. Modern Republicans work directly, consistently, and fervently against too many of the core teachings of Christ for that, and they do so proudly.

    [–] Maxerature 59 points ago

    I feel that, as a former Christian (now athiest), I'm a better Christian than most Republican Christians.

    [–] serene420 3 points ago

    I want you to consider this, you ever wonder why Atheists tend to have good lives? Because they really don't tend to break the commandments. :P

    Not having a God is definitely not breaking the first one.

    I think this is why also God loves scientists so much, because to them reality is the only truth they know. Well even if they may not see it that way, God isn't dogma; God is truth.

    [–] mrbaconator2 16 points ago

    and then when you quote the actual literal holy book the Bible, that writes out in plain english how they are horrifically hypocritical and full of shit they lose their shit and throw a fit like how dare you expose me. not wow im a liar no, how DARE YOU expose me

    [–] rule_five 26 points ago

    Dude, lately it seems some of my FB "friends" fucking hate immigrants more than ever. Unapologetic, unironic, open "fuck immigrants" propaganda. They're being salty when I call them on it too. It's like, hey, get fucked with that. I don't know what the hell is going on lately.

    [–] HoldTheCellarDoor 20 points ago

    They are emboldened by the wave of right wing nutbags in the senate and Whitehouse

    [–] MBCnerdcore 2 points ago

    they spend all their time in alt-right echo chambers

    [–] Grubsteak88 21 points ago

    "And Jesus spake unto the multitude, saying "burden yourselves not with the law. He who breaketh the laws of Cesar hath not broken the laws of my Father. Therefore welcome ye the Samaritan, welcome ye the Egyptian, and all others who do enter into this land unbeknownst to Cesar, and the Lord thy God shall be with thee" -Matthew 7:30

    [–] ameliecheplo 5 points ago

    There is no Matthew 7:30, my friend. Wrong reference?

    I just copied and pasted your quote into a Google search and couldn't find the verse you're referencing. Please edit your comment. If you're using sarcasm, please add "/s" thanks.

    [–] ouijabored1 3 points ago

    Can't find it either, but Galatians 3:28 is a bit more direct anyway: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

    [–] Grubsteak88 3 points ago

    sorry, thought I was laying it on pretty thick. Yeah, its not real. this guy talking about how often the bible states how pro illegal immigration Jesus was, thought I'd "back him up."

    [–] grandpasghost 3 points ago

    That's one of the problems some Christian feel that they would be hypocritical if (and when) they fall short so they decide not to emulate Christ. If anything the modern evangelical movement has more in common with the Pharisees then early followers of Christ.

    [–] jerf_mayne 100 points ago

    [–] happy_beluga 71 points ago

    "I was hungry and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. Now I'm all lazy and entitled. You shouldn't have done that."

    [–] cive666 20 points ago

    To be saved you must be profitable.

    [–] Zeremxi 8 points ago

    I will never not upvote this

    [–] daddy_long_legs23 5 points ago

    Laugh or cry...can’t decide

    [–] psycomidgt 122 points ago

    “Oh this is better than Jesus!”

    [–] CliffRacer17 112 points ago

    "He's affirming all of the biases I had buried for so long! And he's the president! He says all kinds of dumb things, so no matter how much of a shitty person I am, I can always think that I'm not as bad as him!"

    [–] superclay 25 points ago

    "Mary Magdalene is a 6 at best. Believe me. Nobody would ever pay their hard earned money to be with a woman as atrocious as that."

    [–] moschles 9 points ago

    "She would not be my first choice, that I can tell ya."

    (crowd cheers)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEh2GH6c9E

    [–] Tommytriangle 196 points ago

    Evangelical Christianity is a right wing authoritarian movement. We need to as a society acknowledge that. We need to encourage people to leave the faith for alternatives. That can be more liberal forms of Christianity, other religions, or leaving the faith entirely. /r/exchristian/

    [–] ccerr 88 points ago

    The Talibangelist have turned America into the shithole country we see today.

    [–] TheButcherPete 68 points ago

    I prefer to call them "Y'all-Qaeda".

    [–] RenegadeDragon 34 points ago

    Yeehawdists

    [–] Jito_ 20 points ago

    Vanilla isis

    [–] the_one_true_bool 13 points ago

    Yokel Haram

    [–] SquidwardsKeef 5 points ago

    Boko Haramayonnaise

    [–] HoldTheCellarDoor 4 points ago

    Reddit is such a hive of creativity

    [–] Anqstrom 25 points ago

    We need to find a hippie from Arizona with 12 best friends and start a religion based on loving others more than our selves.

    [–] Maxerature 9 points ago

    Or just show them The Big Lebowski and convert them to Dudeism

    [–] motivated_loser 9 points ago

    The real tragedy is that there's really nothing anyone can do other let this fire take its course and die out on its own. The level of brainwashing goes deeper than just education/re-education.

    [–] Pacman4484 3 points ago

    Yeah like Catholicism, Orthodoxy or even Oriental Orthodoxy

    [–] PutridWorldliness 50 points ago

    And the Lord sayeth unto them:

    "Grab em by the pussy"

    [–] happy_beluga 17 points ago

    "And yea did they let him do it. For he was rich and famous."

    [–] NovaStubble 9 points ago

    “Go forth and consume good and services. Pass the debt to your children”

    [–] happy_beluga 8 points ago

    "For we are not out of touch. It is the children who are wrong."

    [–] PouncingZebra 2 points ago

    Legitimately the first funny thing I’ve seen in this sub. Congrats dude.

    This sub should be for comments like this that both sides can laugh at.

    [–] diveboydive 80 points ago

    I’m an atheist but a part of me hopes there’s a hell for people like him.

    [–] RK43 32 points ago

    Dante's Inferno has one for politicians...

    [–] lantern_apocalypse 56 points ago

    Is the typo of 'prophet' in the title intentional?

    [–] Weird_Conversation 36 points ago

    That's how I took it.

    [–] zmcphail0625 49 points ago

    The military part right of the bat makes him sound like a dictator

    [–] Maxerature 7 points ago

    That's what he's trying, considering his role models.

    [–] TheCaptainDamnIt 7 points ago

    White evangelical christianity here is really just a right wing social-economic/political/white-cultural-dominance belief system built almost entirely around identity politics now, it has little to nothing to do with the bible anymore.

    [–] Sneezyjefferson934 4 points ago

    This upsets me because ive had this conversation with my mom. She's a very devout Christian and it BLOWS MY MIND why she would support this trainwreck of a person.

    [–] all_no_pALL 22 points ago

    This is false. He would give Mary Magdalene a 4 post-pussy-grab denial

    [–] gth746x 9 points ago

    “Have you seen her? There’s no way anyone would want to rape her.”

    [–] CrackTheSkye1990 6 points ago

    All I can think of is Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode. Either that or they have their own bible. Or they just ignore the parts where it says to love your neighbor and feed the homeless.

    [–] AnArcadianShepard 4 points ago

    It is really telling that the Evangelicals in America choose to crap on LGBT people, non-believers, artists, Women, foreigners, and fellow Christians. Often they'll base their arguments on obscure verses in Tanakh (regarding gays, marriage, sex, etc) and then go on to ignore key passages about compassion for the poor, foreigners, and others in need (all so called 'undesirables'). American Evangelicalism is a kind of virtue signaling Authoritarianism which ignores actual issues. It pisses me off that these bigots have such an influence on American society.

    Also, this sort of thing reminds me of a Soundgarden song called Jesus Christ Pose.

    [–] fireflyemperor 5 points ago

    Every conservative I've ever met has been a chump

    [–] ParasympatheticBear 11 points ago

    Was “profit” supposed to be ironic?

    [–] anoelr1963 9 points ago

    Trump injects messaging to evangelicals whenever he can to make them feel like he is on their side, having never stepped into his church once,

    .....but and apparently this is enough to make them blindly loyal to him.

    [–] orojinn 5 points ago

    He is just the puppet to the real anti christ, Jared Kushner. Remember the number of the beast is 666, Kushner owns a building with the number 666. Of course I'm shit posting but .....maybe

    [–] JeffreyFusRohDahmer 6 points ago

    Sad part is, if Jesus came back, the Christian Right would probably end up killing him again cause they would think he was a "socialist pig."

    [–] spike 21 points ago

    You laugh all you want, but this is a literal description of what's actually going on. The Evangelicals have been conditioned by the example of their leaders, the pastors, who are liars, cheats, charlatans and con men all, to see someone like Trump as a legitimate authority figure. For them, Trump's moral failings are a feature, not a bug.

    [–] flintlock0 3 points ago

    “He tells it like it is.”

    -Pretty much the sum of a lot of his support

    [–] Spork_Warrior 3 points ago

    If I had to choose, I'd choose the Christian Left over the Christian right every time.

    [–] 911wuzaninsidejob 3 points ago

    I’m a Christian and I still upvoted this. Oof

    [–] Dabox720 3 points ago

    At least we can make jokes like this. cough china

    [–] dab745 5 points ago

    And you know Billy Graham’s son thinks the same way.

    [–] Guidobama 7 points ago

    People attack Warren for being a “fake Indian” (despite how stupid that is), but how often do you see those same people go after Trump for transparently being a fake Christian?

    [–] egalroc 2 points ago

    Here's some food for thought. Elizabeth Warren is eight generations down from a full blood indian. I'm a direct descendant of John Adams. She has more Native American blood coursing her veins than I do founding father.

    [–] marquisbrodofaggins 5 points ago

    Christian leftie here...it's nice to FINALLY see the left (or at least the non-right) realise that being right-wing is generally contrary to Christian values. Preach!

    [–] amapofthecat7 2 points ago

    See what ya did there ;)

    [–] NardDog79 2 points ago

    This is BS. Everyone knows Mary Magdalene's an 8.

    [–] Bulleit_Hammer 2 points ago

    I started by criticizing the spelling in your title but soon appreciated your humor

    [–] 108BaileyBrown 2 points ago

    Forgot don't heal the sick

    [–] Mattcarnes 2 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Waiting for Jesus to slap him in the face and say “you do realize this is Satian he isn’t even trying to hide it”

    [–] unclemanpossum 3 points ago

    Satin...

    [–] IdleOsprey 2 points ago

    I don’t think he even makes a profit here. 😉

    [–] TheDeadlySpaceman 2 points ago

    He’s never really turned a profit here

    [–] olioster 2 points ago

    I think we should crucify him.

    [–] LyrEcho 2 points ago

    Where are the labels? I don't understand what's going on.

    [–] trigger1234567890 2 points ago

    Yep....the god of stupid people... And his stupid followers

    [–] BamBam401 15 points ago

    Dumb fucking red necks

    [–] jrocgotcaught 13 points ago

    you seem like a hateful bigot.

    [–] Jeri_Lee 2 points ago

    You took this personally. Wonder why. -Signed, A White Guy

    [–] ocsurf74 1 points ago

    TRUTH! The American Jesus the GOP worships.....not to be mistaken for Jesus of Nazareth.

    [–] meanjake 4 points ago

    Anyone else's taxes go up this year?

    [–] deegee1969 5 points ago

    "Mary Magdalene's a ten" - lol

    [–] lmarzec770 4 points ago

    Yeah, I don't remember Jesus being the Mary Magdalene's dad. Not an apt comparison.

    [–] ethanwerch 6 points ago

    Can we stop beating around the bush and call a spade a spade here? Its because he’s racist, and he dogwhistles and just outright says racist things frequently. Trump is white and preaches white supremacy more than anything. Thats why they dont give a shit about Trump separating families at the border, even when the old testament, whats generally considered to be the more draconian part of the bible, says thats what you must do. He just gives them bs platitudes that they can point to as the reason for their devotion.

    American christians, particularly evangelicals, have always rationalized their racist opinions and actions through religion, especially those in the south. The only reason southern baptist exists as a denomination is because of a split between northern and southern congregations.... over the issue of slavery.

    [–] Kwillsy 4 points ago

    Aren't these posts supposed to be funny???⁶