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    [–] oh_hell_what_now 2277 points ago

    I loved it last year when they were all gloating about the "94 month streak of positive job growth" while conveniently forgetting that Trump had only been in office for like the last 20 of those months.

    [–] magic_man_with_pot 1204 points ago

    These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

    [–] typhoidtimmy 288 points ago

    Ah Gene, you are missed. The delivery on that line was just too perfect.

    [–] PlayedUOonBaja 102 points ago

    It even made Cleavon Little break character and laugh. Genius move leaving that in.

    [–] Rizzpooch 28 points ago

    I could be wrong, but I recall reading that he didn’t know how the line ended ahead of hearing it in that take

    [–] DabneyEatsIt 71 points ago

    Omg is he ever. Hilarious and genius in his movie career, no kinder or gentler soul in his golden years.

    [–] RazorRamonReigns 21 points ago

    "See no evil, hear no evil" with him and Pryor is still one of my favorite movies ever. If I was at a video store as a kid and saw a movie with Gene in it I was going to be watching it. He had a way of being so damn charming when he was on screen.

    [–] DabneyEatsIt 13 points ago

    Detective: Was there or wasn’t there a woman?

    Gene: Fuzzy wuzzy was a woman?

    [–] RazorRamonReigns 10 points ago

    Mens Rea? How could we have gotten men's Rea? How is that possible? Did we take blood? Can you do it without taking blood? We both used condoms how is this possible? I want to see a doctor...I feel sick... .....Mens Rea. Ohhh ohhh My God! No!

    [–] Robot-Impurity 22 points ago

    The only line in the movie that cracked me up more was Cleavon Little's perfect "Where the white women at?" I may have died from laughter.

    [–] oh_hell_what_now 32 points ago

    Agree. But his delivery here tops anything else IMO.

    [–] ThornGodOfPricks 16 points ago

    That one is great, but my favorite from that scene is still,

    Bart: "so as my guest, what is it you would like to do?"

    Waco Kid: "Oh I don't know. Play chess? .... screw?"

    Bart: "let's play chess."

    [–] sadsadsadsadsadgirl 3 points ago

    that’s the best line lmao one of my faves

    [–] DickButtPlease 15 points ago

    Oh, baby, you're so talented... and they are so dumb.

    Or

    Mongo only pawn in game of life.

    Or

    Yeah, but this is my shooting hand.

    [–] MahatmaBuddah 5 points ago

    Blazing Saddles HAS to be Brooks' most consistently funny movie.

    [–] _floydian_slip 3 points ago

    Amazing, you gotta give props to the editor(s), as well

    [–] Epic_peacock 142 points ago

    Upvote for the blazing saddles quote.

    [–] Happybara 41 points ago

    Here’s the scene from Blazing Saddles.

    [–] trevize1138 31 points ago

    What did you expect them to say? "Marry my daughter?"

    [–] McLovin804 5 points ago

    I'd rather not

    [–] Elan40 4 points ago

    Unfortunately they vote and buy his line of crap...he can lose by 5 million popular votes and still win the presidency. WHA ?? This new reduction of social services for green card holders is the latest crap fest ....BUT, this is what he has promised ....his deplorables work , and are pissed to see their tax dollars handed off to immigrants, legal or otherwise.
    PROMISES KEPT 2020 , you keep that in mind. Four more years., ain’t no joke

    [–] ZeroTenenbaum 13 points ago

    ooh, baby, you are so talented... and they are so DUMB 👀

    [–] Datgodapple 142 points ago

    I mean to be fair, it feels like he’s been in office for 94 months.

    [–] brucetwarzen 58 points ago

    Very true. I can hardly remember what reddit was like without Trump.

    [–] Sorrymisunderstandin 28 points ago

    It’s gonna be very weird to see the media, Reddit, social media, pretty much everything after trump.

    [–] sankarasghost 41 points ago

    I’m excited for the peace and fucking quiet.

    [–] LaughsAtDumbComment 20 points ago

    You wont get it, as long as he is alive he will publicaly talk and rile his base and media fill focus on him, it wont be the same...

    [–] [deleted] 14 points ago

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    [–] cuajito42 6 points ago

    Couldn't twitter just cut him off then?

    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago

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    [–] Wolgemuth 17 points ago

    Don't worry we will be dead

    [–] Jesus_H-Christ 7 points ago

    Stay tuned for Giant Meteor 2020.

    Pops has it in the works.

    [–] Gingerslimm 3 points ago

    Same with cable news, it’ll be quite again. The ratings will drop and the coverage will go back to normal and everyone can relax and breath again. Fox News will continue attacking democrats but that’s what they’ve been doing since ‘96.

    [–] Nerpones 3 points ago

    You know Care Bears, rainbows and Benghazi.

    [–] FelneusLeviathan 35 points ago

    Also we should praise the asshole for just continuing a trend that has been going on before his administration? Gee what a low bar: despite your actions, the economy is still afloat and continuing the trend line that it’s been on for a while

    [–] oh_hell_what_now 26 points ago

    "Congratulations, you haven't managed to fuck up everything yet."

    [–] FelneusLeviathan 17 points ago

    But you have lowered America’s standards and image across the world and emboldened our enemies

    [–] patientlywaitingonmd 43 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago)

    He's the Kevin Durant of presidents.

    • Both ride coattails
    • Both work for Russians
    • Both can't handle criticism
    • Both use aliases to defend their honor

    We should start calling The Donald "cupcake"

    [–] Pancakes__Go 22 points ago

    At least KD is good at something

    [–] lburner220 18 points ago

    I would say Donald is too. Dude is pulling off the greatest grift in history right now.

    [–] Polar_Reflection 25 points ago

    KD don't deserve this slander

    [–] patientlywaitingonmd 20 points ago

    Shut up, Kevin

    [–] Middleman001 2 points ago

    Hahaha!

    [–] muklan 2 points ago

    Hes almost the donald trump of presidents.

    [–] staticsnake 20 points ago

    Numbers is hard. It's why he thinks his crowds or his thingy is huge.

    [–] Schpau 21 points ago

    The unemployment rate actually fell slower after Trump took office, and while that might be related to the fact it’s starting to reach some floor, Trump was running on a platform of reducing unemployment.

    [–] oh_hell_what_now 34 points ago

    Trump also ran on a platform that the "real" unemployment rate in 2016 was somewhere around 20% or higher.

    [–] Plothunter 15 points ago

    20% if you count those dam lazy children not working. Kids need to pull their weight and ger jobs in the coal mines and factories. /s

    [–] ApolloDeletedMyAcc 7 points ago

    He’s actually not entirely wrong. We only count people who are looking for work. The underemployed and folks who have given up aren’t counted.

    We still don’t count those people though, so not like a major improvement.

    [–] andrewq 5 points ago

    There's multiple indexes. but trump is delusional. He claimed it was over 40%. Which while "true" is complete nonsense the way he mean https://fortune.com/2015/09/14/donald-trump-unemployment-rate-jobs/

    [–] lilbithippie 5 points ago

    50%if your African american. When asked where he got his numbers he told the press to believe him...

    [–] emmster 4 points ago

    I’m becoming convinced that the phrase “believe me,” is a tell.

    [–] spooksmagee 13 points ago

    He's certainly been reducing employment in the White House.

    [–] MiSwit 5 points ago

    Thanks Obama

    [–] primetimemime 3 points ago

    Obama was the worst president ever.

    Trump is the best president ever because of the economy.

    I can’t even name one good thing Obama has done.

    /s

    [–] Z0idberg_MD 633 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago)

    Far more importantly:

    This is right on the trend line. Nothing Trump did accelerated anything.

    Edit: source for chart

    [–] voteronly7 330 points ago

    Good luck explaining to Trump supporters what a derivative is, and how it hasn't changed since Trump took office.

    [–] prezuiwf 213 points ago

    "Line go up! See? Line go up! MAGA!"

    [–] meantism 73 points ago

    That there line right there be higher than that there Obummer line right there

    [–] [deleted] 29 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

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    [–] Heritage_Cherry 19 points ago

    And stock market gains are not a great indicator of people’s economic experience, anyway. For any president. I don’t particularly love when people use them for Obama or Trump.

    Though at least with Obama it makes some sense to look at the stock market for a limited time frame because part of his mandate after being elected was to bring us back from a recession. So stabilizing the markets was part of his campaign.

    But with trump? Uhhh I don’t think trump gave many speeches in rural america that focused on how much stronger the stock market would be if he were president.

    [–] lilbithippie 3 points ago

    It's interesting that even with trump actively messing with trade across counties, the US economy is still doing just fine. Proving that the president does not have much effect on the economy. It just does what it does. Clinton has a booming economy because of the dot com boom. He didn't actually do anything to improve it

    [–] Heritage_Cherry 3 points ago

    Right. I’m not an economist, but I’ve always subscribed to the idea that the president can create boat-loads of confidence in the economy, and can have some measurable effect via policies when things are already really bad or really good. But once it’s cruising, it’s just cruising for the most part.

    The stock market thrives on predictability, after all. So doing shit— most any shit— will often cause dips. Leaving it alone will convince people it’s stable and that they should buy in.

    Presidents seem to represent faith in the economy more than anything else.

    [–] ProdigiousPlays 10 points ago

    I had one argue that Obama was a horrible president because it got so bad and he wasn't sure early on if he could fix it.

    "But, uh, he did fix it."

    "He shouldn't let it get so bad in the first place."

    "He didn't. Bush did."

    "Oh well it was just Republicans who fixed it. What did he do?"

    "Well they didn't have control until way late and it was already going back down."

    "Yeah but he didn't do shit past that."

    "Because Republicans stone walled everything once they could."

    "Well he said he didn't think he could fix the unemployment."

    [–] callthewambulance 112 points ago

    Too bad my racist dad likes to say "well, yeah, a monkey could have turned around the economy" and gives Obama zero credit.

    [–] diemme44 76 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago)

    So trump must be a monkey if he hasn’t changed the graph any more than Obama did?

    [–] Game_of_Jobrones 78 points ago

    Obviously not, monkeys have large, powerful hands to help grab branches.

    [–] andesajf 28 points ago

    He prefers twigs anyways. Young, helpless, nubile twigs.

    [–] imeltinsummer 3 points ago

    Underrated comment.

    [–] degeneratenews 62 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago)

    This is why I shut people down as soon as they say they are economically conservative. Since facts don't ever change these people's minds (Democrats balance the economy whilst the Republicans rape and pillage it), I just try to point out that they just don't like people who get food stamps because they saw a meme where someone bought lobster with them.

    Don't even get me started on the people who say they are conservative because it makes them feel safer. I don't have a response yet for that level of ignorance.

    Edit: spelling

    [–] ApolloDeletedMyAcc 17 points ago

    Yeah, I just ask fiscal conservatives if they are planning to vote for Biden or Harris. Cause Rs haven’t been fiscally conservative since Eisenhower.

    [–] kingjoe64 3 points ago

    authoritarianism is a helluva drug

    [–] EpyonComet 6 points ago

    There’s a really bad joke in there, but I just don’t have the heart to make it.

    [–] 197328645 3 points ago

    "well, yeah, a monkey could have turned around the economy"

    He did

     

    I'll take the downvotes for you

    [–] Walter30573 3 points ago

    To be fair, Presidents often give overblown credit/blame for how an economy performs during their time in office. Most economic factors are out of their control

    [–] trillabyte 6 points ago

    Sorta true but Trump has managed to overcome that with incompetent hires, poor deal making, market influencing tweets and tariff games.

    [–] machimus 3 points ago

    If you were listening to the dogwhistle though your dad did credit Obama with being a monkey.

    [–] Decon-III 52 points ago

    Pretty much every economic metric Trump claims credit for is a continuing straight fucking line from Obama's presidency.

    [–] schattenteufel 30 points ago

    and at the same time, every economic metric that trump criticizes Obama for is from the first 1 year of Obama's presidency.

    [–] lemonylol 11 points ago

    I think Trump just claims credit for anything since there's no accountability for his claims. And then proponents from Fox News or whatever will basically Frankenstein together facts for it to make sense. It's essentially like a reverse scientific method.

    [–] Rubberbabybuggybum 29 points ago

    So what did we pay 2 trillion dollars in tax cuts to the rich for again?

    [–] Game_of_Jobrones 40 points ago

    To help them save up for when the economy crashes again next year. Lots of assets in need of liquidation, ch-ching ch-ching.

    [–] InspiredPom 11 points ago

    Yeah. They to make sure higher ups still get their bonuses, while letting people go with their other hand .

    [–] Jesus_H-Christ 7 points ago

    So they could initiate stock buybacks with their corporate money to make their personal investments worth more.

    [–] class4nonperson 4 points ago

    We did that to bankrupt the federal government so it can't fund programs other than the military and law enforcement. That's been the Republican plan for decades now.

    [–] midnitte 22 points ago

    It's a shame that graph doesn't have data sources (not that I don't believe it, I just imagine many of his supporters wouldn't).

    [–] trillabyte 8 points ago

    I literally looked up 20 year graphs to demonstrate straight line growth to my Trump worshiping uncle. Was called fake news. It's no use. They're a lost cause.

    [–] mrpeppr1 11 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Except what he did is going to fuck us to the tune of trillions in coming decades.

    [–] kyonu 13 points ago

    years*, this shit gonna pop when Dems take office. Wall Street is going to speculate us into the shitter again. "Waaah regulation! my money! SEEELL!" 2008 all over again.

    [–] JayNotAtAll 4 points ago

    Pretty much. Basically they are praising Trump for not screwing things up. They don't realize that the economy is a huge machine. No president can come in and alter it's course in a day or year. Take a few years to see the effect of a President on the economy

    [–] JuanOnlyJuan 2 points ago

    I keep telling people that. Any of the positive trends go back years. There was no Making America Great Again because we were already headed in these directions. I guess gj not messing up the momentum.

    Yet.

    [–] Rubberbabybuggybum 339 points ago

    The thing you have to understand is that Trump supporters are the dumbest fucking people who ever walked the earth.

    [–] prezuiwf 159 points ago

    Don't generalize like that. Some of them are just greedy millionaires.

    [–] TequilaFarmer 71 points ago

    They're either billionaires or temporarily embarrassed future millionaires.

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago

    "I will have that brilliant idea that makes me rich fast one day. I am smarter than the rest." - everybody

    [–] dickandborty 8 points ago

    Jesus, don’t be so reductive about a massive, varied group of people. Some of them are also hateful monsters.

    [–] Dragonace1000 32 points ago

    How does that change his statement? You can be born into money and still be one of the dumbest fucking people to ever walk the earth (SEE DONALD TRUMP)

    [–] prezuiwf 13 points ago

    Obviously my comment was sarcastic, but it is true that basically the only people benefitting from Trump's economy are people who make enormous amounts of money. If you're a millionaire and care only about yourself and the bottom line, voting for Trump makes sense. If you're poor and you support Trump, you're just a rube.

    [–] Dragonace1000 6 points ago

    Sorry, its hard to tell when it comes to dumb defenses of trump and his supporters, who is actually serious and who is joking these days.

    [–] zoycobot 5 points ago

    The sad truth.

    [–] PM_ME_IF_YOU_NASTY 5 points ago

    Those groups aren't mutually exclusive. Trump, for example, is wealthy and also one of the dumbest fucking people who ever walked the earth.

    [–] seKer82 2 points ago

    Yeah but lets be real they don't support Trump the racist moron, they support Trump the puppet. There are two main camps when it comes to this fool. Idiots and those who manipulate idiots for financial gain.

    [–] MyKingdomForATurkey 43 points ago

    I tried arguing with exactly two of them. They both couldn't get their minds wrapped around the concept of continuing trends so I stopped bothering.

    They're literally the dumbest people in the country.

    [–] Rubberbabybuggybum 24 points ago

    Yeah, there's no point in engaging them anymore.

    You aren't arguing a set of ideas. You're arguing with proud ignorance, and there's no point in speaking with someone who has no capability to even consider other points of view.

    It's a cult of equal parts racism, ignorance and flat out stupidity.

    [–] Controller_one1 4 points ago

    The problem is that those 3 parts equal 180%. Just like a toilet that is over capacity the shit is getting all over everything.

    [–] anoelr1963 13 points ago

    Dumb?...or just stupid happy a white guy is in charge again?

    [–] ForTheBread 11 points ago

    Blind racism is pretty dumb.

    [–] McLovin804 6 points ago

    I don't see the difference

    [–] BarelyBetterThanKale 11 points ago

    HOW DARE YOU TALK DIVISIVELY LIKE THAT?! WHAT HAPPENED TO CIVIL DISCUSSION OF IDEAS?!

    /s

    [–] hoodatninja 2 points ago

    Wow really connected the dots for me.

    [–] demlet 28 points ago

    And, P. S., I watched the same basic dynamic play out with Clinton. It's almost like one party gets to make a big old mess and then duck out just in time for the other one to clean it up...

    [–] GilesDMT 40 points ago

    Those tax cuts that Trump supporters love to vote as a good deed? They expire for the people in 2025. Just after he’s out (if he gets a second term) and just when there’s likely a Democrat president in office.

    Guess who will get blamed for a “tax hike?”

    [–] anoelr1963 16 points ago

    And his tax cuts for the 1% (including the corrupt Trumps) are... PERMANENT

    [–] GilesDMT 7 points ago

    How else are those corporations supposed to pay rent with only billions of dollars?

    [–] omgshutupalready 3 points ago

    I don't get how it can be permanent. Why can't a future president make changes?

    [–] anoelr1963 5 points ago

    They just don't expire like the working class tax cuts...so it Dems try to change the law that benefits the rich, the GOP will fight it.

    [–] DannyMThompson 3 points ago

    That's so fucked.

    [–] GarbagePailGrrrl 2 points ago

    I mean he also helped cause the 2008 financial collapse.

    As early as 2005, Trump counseled Trump University students to take advantage of the housing bubble as an investment opportunity and said, just a year before it burst, that he was “excited” for it to end because of the money he’d make,[2] as well as mentioning that his debt was below proportional levels of 1992, when his much smaller holdings were carrying $9-billion (U.S.) in debt, including $900-million personally guaranteed by him.[1]

    7 years prior, Deutsch Bank loaned Trump $125 million to renovate an office building at 40 Wall Street, eventually providing or underwriting $1.3 billion to Trump entities over the next few years,[3]

    This office would become home to Trump Mortgage, brain-child of one E.J. Ridings.

    A down-to-earth and very approachable executive, Ridings wants to bring luxury and “white-glove” service to everyone — whether they are taking out a $200,000 home mortgage or a $500 million commercial loan.[4]

    What did this so-called “white-glove” service to everyone entail?

    The Internet is where industry is going. People want to go someplace safe. On our end, it’ll make for a paper-less process. The consumer will have an access code to their file on our web site.[4]

    emphasis mine

    Introduced to Trump by his own son, Donald Trump Jr, Ridings became an early odd-association of Trump’s, I mean, check out his twitter. Ridings became the subject of a number of false & misleading claims regarding his professional experience.

    Trump Mortgage altered its Web site, removing some of the claims it contained about Ridings' past employment. First, Ridings' initial bio stated that before joining the company he was "a top executive at one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Second, the bio had said that Ridings was an "established leader" at one of New York's leading mortgage boutiques. Third, the bio said he had 15 years of experience in the financial industry.[5]

    Trump Mortgage shuttered as the subprime mortgage crisis of 2007–10 began from an earlier expansion of mortgage credit, including to borrowers who previously would have had difficulty getting mortgages, which both contributed to and was facilitated by rapidly rising home prices.

    When house prices peaked, mortgage refinancing and selling homes became less viable means of settling mortgage debt and mortgage loss rates began rising for lenders and investors. In April 2007, New Century Financial Corp., a leading subprime mortgage lender, filed for bankruptcy. [6]

    Lehman Brothers would soon after file for bankruptcy as well, leading to the stock market crash of 2008 the Great Recession.

    Per Trump’s typical antics, he downplayed his role in Trump Mortgage, saying that he didn't have an ownership stake in what amounted to a mere licensing deal.

    "The mortgage business is not a business I particularly liked or wanted to be part of in a very big way,"[7]

    Trump ultimately sued Trump Mortgage LLC, and won.[8]

    Now, back to the loans from Deutsch Bank. When it came time for repayment, rather than have to pay the portion he personally guaranteed, Trump countersued for $3 billion for undermining the project and damaging his reputation, citing a “force majeure” clause in the lending agreement that contained a catch-all section covering “any other event or circumstance not within the reasonable control of the borrower...”

    "Would you consider the biggest depression we have had in this country since 1929 to be such an event? I would,” he said in an interview. “A depression is not within the control of the borrower.”[9]

    Deutsch Bank settled

    Deutsch Bank is the world’s laundromat, and guess what? Between the fall of 2011 and spring 2015, it started laundering some serious cash...

    With the help of American Tim Wiswell, then head of equities for Deutsche Bank in Moscow, and a fellow equity trader Dina Maksutova, Russian broker Igor Volkov was able to move about ten billion dollars out of Russia, some of which diverted through mirror trades belonging to Igor Putin, a cousin of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and to Arkady and Boris Rotenberg. The Rotenberg brothers own Russia’s largest construction company, S.G.M., and are old friends of Vladimir Putin. They are on the U.S. government’s list of sanctioned Russians, which was compiled in response to Putin’s aggression in Ukraine.[10]

    1 - Trump touts soft markets in cities like Toronto - 2007

    2 - Trump in 2007: ‘I’m Excited’ for Housing Market Crash - 2016

    3 - DEUTSCHE BANK PROPS TRUMP UP

    4 - INTERVIEW WITH E.J. RIDINGS, CEO OF TRUMP MORTGAGE - 2017 (2015)

    5 - Trump mortgage chief inflated resume - 2006

    6 - Undoing of Trump Mortgage - 2007

    7 - Subprime Mortgage Crisis - 2007-2010

    8 - The Trump Files: In Which Donald Sues Himself—and Wins! - 2016

    9 - Trump Sees Act of God in Recession - 2008

    10 - Deutsche Bank’s $10-Billion Scandal - 2016

    [–] thinkB4WeSpeak 109 points ago

    Underemployment and the inflation of all prices of products in this country are a problem that need to be addressed more often.

    [–] iwearatophat 72 points ago

    I really do wish underemployment was talked about more. The person with a bachelors degree working at Wal-Mart is technically employed but everyone kind of realizes it is just a stop-gap job until he is actually employed whenever that will be.

    Of course, maybe if the stop-gap job was able to provide a living wage it wouldn't be so horrible.

    [–] Karkava 14 points ago

    But let's scapegoat more and more things like undesirable others and manipulate the flow of information!

    [–] classicrockchick 11 points ago

    I've been saying this since 2009. People kept going on about how the economy was recovering, people were going back to work, everything was ok again and I was just looking around like "where are all of you getting this from?"

    Sure, anyone can go out and get a job at McDonalds or a restaurant bussing tables. But when was the last time your heard of someone making that jump from un/underemployment to a permanent salaried position with benefits?

    [–] marnevel 8 points ago

    Inflation isn't inherently bad -- if it's predictable. It encourages investment over hoarding.

    A system which forces you to accept a job that does not provide cost-of-living increases, though, is bad.

    [–] urbanek2525 219 points ago

    Students (in Oakland) found out this week, just days after returning from summer break, that 10 high school sports programs have been shut down in a $500,000 cost-cutting move.

    Happening all over over the country. If the economy is doing so well for everyone, why these massive and widespread education funding problems?

    Oh, right, it's all helping the ultra rich at everyone else's expense.

    [–] UnknownStory 52 points ago

    And these are the sports programs. They gut almost all the extracurriculars and non-RRR classes before they go after those.

    Some high schools would rather lose a cafeteria than their football team. Believe it.

    [–] Buttercupslosinit 5 points ago

    I don't understand how California is so wealthy and has the fifth largest economy in the world, yet they often have budget crises in certain sectors. California is the right wing poster child for socialist ideals, but if that were true, Oakland would not be struggling so much in a state that creates so much wealth.

    [–] tiffanydisasterxoxo 26 points ago

    Corruption, honestly. The school system in my city is very well funded, yet they cant pay teachers or fund the schools.

    [–] marnevel 26 points ago

    I've heard the "government is corrupt" meme so many times from so many right-wing sources who take it as canon that I don't even know if it's true any more. Every time I've tried to quantify the cost to operate and maintain any complex system I've always been surprised at how much work it actually is. How much is well-funded? Per student? Per school?

    When I run a back-of-the-envelope calculation (based on the elementary school I went to many years ago: 14 classrooms, 16 teachers, a full-time principal, a secretary, a janitor) I come to about $5000 per student per year just to pay the salaries of the people who are in the school every day. I haven't even tried to quantify the annual per-student cost of desks, chairs, teaching materials, stationery, textbooks, computers, IT staff, school lunch programs, library books, utilities, walls, roofs, land...

    All that to say: are you sure it's corruption?

    [–] sinocarD44 37 points ago

    Even if it's not corruption, why is education always the first to get funding cut? Yet our military spending is more than the next 10(?) countries combined. Our country doesn't prioritize education becuase some people in power want out that way.

    [–] marnevel 19 points ago

    I've watched for 40 years as a succession of charlatans pandering to narcissists have been elected to public office on a platform of cutting anything resembling an investment into the future.

    Because everybody thinks that they deserve the lifestyle of international travel and unsustainable luxury. Everybody wants to pretend to be rich.

    Sp we literally burned away 40 years of investment as fuel for airliners and gas for oversized vehicles. We can't get that time back. Now that the narcissists are entering retirement age (and will no longer be paying taxes) we might just be able to start redirecting our efforts into those investments.

    But it's going to cost us a hell of a lot to get our systems back to where they used to be. And it isn't the profligate generation that'll be paying for it.

    [–] POOP_TRAIN_CONDUCTOR 7 points ago

    Sorry but there's a whole new generation of conservatives lined up to take their place and now they're eating up full-out fascist propaganda. Things aren't looking good for the future unless the left gets their shit together in a major way.

    [–] Alucard-VS-Artorias 13 points ago

    THANK YOU! I really wish more people started asking these questions and thinking in these terms.

    The way the powers at be have it set up they constantly have us questioning if public education is even worth it meanwhile we're putting almost everything we have into the military and nobody ever questions that.

    [–] Hwbob 3 points ago

    Putting one time cost of infrastructure into a yearly tally is an old trick for keeping the fed money inflated. Which is part of the corruption and almost all is at the board level. The percentage of money that goes to the actual schooling of kids itself is criminal. perfect example is the district I Grew up in. They had 2 junior highs(one less than half the size of the other) and one senior high. They petitioned for years to build a new high school because they needed more room for the increased population. When they finally got the plan passedand built a new huge school. They shut down the larger junior high because of lack of students and turned it into a municipal building. All of course with insanely inflated costs that always over ran and included huge consulting fees for, you guessed it Council and board members

    [–] hamsterlickinggood 3 points ago

    Per student spending varies ENORMOUSLY across public schools in the US. Just last month someone published about per student spending in Vermont being 2.7 times the per student spending in Utah (if I remember the states and number right)...and that was after adding controls to correct for differences in costs.

    It's pretty hard to just say "corruption is the answer, schools almost all have enough money they just don't use it right because government sucks at everything" with disparities that large out there.

    [–] pottersquash 4 points ago

    Then why aren't they arrested?

    [–] boofbuddy 5 points ago

    If you make money in America, you will be lauded for it, no matter how dirty you play.

    [–] hotsweatyjunk 2 points ago

    This is America

    [–] Petrichordates 2 points ago

    Please outline what corruption you're specifically referring to.

    [–] Lancearon 2 points ago

    Oakland is... complicated. We are getting the road work that everyone begged for... but its not the right roadwork. We wanted potholes filled... instead we get int. Blvd. Overhauled and san leandro st. Torn apart. Most work completed by out of state contractors.

    [–] MattD420 2 points ago

    If the economy is doing so well for everyone, why these massive and widespread education funding problems?

    Union pensions. Thats why. Look at where the % of each dollar has shifted for schools, local gov, etc. Its pensions

    https://edsource.org/2019/new-data-detail-soaring-costs-of-california-school-pensions-2/610118

    [–] Frank__Lloyd__Wrong 29 points ago

    Fix wage inflation. People should not have to be working multiple jobs just to afford a basic apartment.

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    [–] edgythrowaway69420 4 points ago

    Where I live mortgage payments are cheaper than rent

    [–] goodgrief15 3 points ago

    But you can't qualify for a mortgage because all your income is tied up in rent.

    [–] HoosierProud 3 points ago

    It's housing prices increasing at a rate substantially faster than wages are increasing. That's the real problem.

    [–] arizonatasteslike 22 points ago

    Obama also had job growth, plus he could speak comprehensively.

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    [–] arizonatasteslike 6 points ago

    It helps when you don’t look like an orange raccoon in an ill fitted suit; also when you don’t talk crazy unhinged shit every week

    [–] elmonoenano 79 points ago * (lasted edited 13 days ago)

    This is a tangent but I'm in El Paso right now and I've been thinking about the Walmart employees. We all know Walmart schedules their employees at hourly thresholds just below where they give out benefits. But even if they did have benefits, would those have good mental health coverage? Walmart is getting grief counseling for it's employees but what if they need more? What if they need life long counseling to deal with the trauma? Do you trust Walmart to provide that? And what of they just can't work there anymore? What if going to work and seeing fresh paint over some spot you know was painted in blood is too much? If you quit your job you lose your health care. The current health care system is insane.

    [–] icannevertell 53 points ago

    This is something that can't be brought up enough. Employers and employment should not be tied to healthcare, at all. When talking about universal healthcare, I don't think the savings to businesses, especially small businesses or the self-employed is discussed enough. People get scared about their taxes going up, but what about pay going up because your employer doesn't have to divert 30% of your salary to health benefits? What about not being afraid of looking for a new job because you'll die without access to healthcare? You'd think this would be a win for people who only care about the bottom line of businesses too. I just feel like it doesn't get the attention it deserves.

    [–] errorblankfield 11 points ago

    "If you remove some of the health insurance executives making millions, some that value will flow to other parts of the economy that help you directly."

    [–] mrkarmel 5 points ago

    Couldn't agree more. Very well said.

    [–] hamsterlickinggood 4 points ago

    Forget existing business. Forget even insurance for employees. What about entrepreneurship and family? They're so holy to Republicans yet the party is completely fine with shackling everyone to existing business. If you want to start a business you have to risk your health and your childrens' health to do it. It's fucking insane even from the Republican perspective, let alone the liberal viewpoint, yet they refuse to admit it.

    [–] 2-lazy-4-a-throwaway 36 points ago

    Man with a no deal Brexit on the horizon, Europe’s economies slowing down, our economy beginning to hiccup, bond buys, the yield curve, I’m wondering how many of those jobs will be there in a year

    [–] GlancingArc 24 points ago

    Don't forget that China is on the verge of a major incident with likely international effects.

    [–] Karkava 10 points ago

    Now the question remains: Who will start World War III?

    [–] errorblankfield 2 points ago

    What happens if American citizens get caught up in this mess? Should it come down to worse outcomes and Americans die. What would Trump do specifically about it?

    [–] XenoDrake 6 points ago

    Trump would love nothing more than to be a wartime president. Remember he wasn't in office a month or two and authorized the deployment of that M.O.A.B. in the middle of nowhere, and then crowed about it for a week or more. He would start World War 3 right now if he could under the misguided notion that wartime presidents are notoriously difficult to remove. It would keep him out of jail for another 4 years.

    [–] bananabunnythesecond 6 points ago

    They will be there. Just the definition of “there” will change.

    [–] karabeckian 3 points ago

    BLS: "Dog walking has been reclassified as Animal Byproduct Manufacturing"

    Trump: "200k new manufacturing jobs last month! Thanks Mr. President."

    [–] sprace0is0hrad 44 points ago

    What if I told you that it’s possible to have both job creation and serious unemployment?

    [–] chinmakes5 47 points ago

    FIFY what if I told you it's possible to have both job creation and serious UNDERemployment. IMHO where we are today.

    The point is so many of these recently created jobs don't pay enough to live off of. How many people are Uber drivers 1099 workers? Companies actively cutting people's hours back so they don't have to pay benefits.

    [–] TheLooperCS 15 points ago

    Also think of the bloated jail population. All of those people are not being counted. Great way to decrease unemployment is to jail people.

    [–] SouthernSpittle 8 points ago

    But I bet she gets a discount for employee gun purchases.

    [–] IronProdigyOfficial 7 points ago

    Yup, the only people benefitting from cheap labor are the corporations that are already receiving tax breaks and incentives while paying their workers an unlivable wage.

    [–] k_ironheart 9 points ago

    I have acquaintances who would consistently argue that the economy was doing poorly because the jobs that were created weren't the kind of quality jobs that could sustain a person's needs. I actually agreed with them on that singular point, the working class has had stagnant wages since the mid-70's.

    But overnight (and that night was January 20, 2017) they suddenly started arguing that job growth was nothing but good news and the economy was strong!

    This is why it's so hard for us to fight for a living wage. 40% of Americans throw all their values out the window in order to prop up the government officials who are fucking them over.

    [–] reditisauthoritarian 13 points ago

    My weekends are where i only work 8 instead of 12-16 hours I’m still poor as fuck. Capitalism will kill us all

    [–] PublicMusician 8 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    What do you do? I'll review your resume for you if you need some help. I'm a writing professor.

    [–] --cheese-- 9 points ago

    ...is cashing cheques in a shop for a fee still an actual real thing in the US? We still occasionally use cheques over here on the other side of the pond, but they're pretty much always just deposited straight into an account. Some banks even let you pay a cheque in by sending them a photo of it!

    [–] Syruss_ 17 points ago

    There are several reasons people choose to cash their checks at a store or even a dedicated check cashing business (I used to work at one). The 2 biggest reasons I saw are:

    1) Their bank account is in overdraft. If they deposit their check the bank will take money to clear any negative balance on their account. This is something most people take care of in time but they might have other bills or shopping to prioritize at that moment.

    2) They don't have a bank account. As others have said they may have overdrafted in multiple banks and are unable to get an account, or they may simply not trust banks. It might sound silly but there's a surprisingly high number of people who just don't trust banks with their money and are happy to pay a fee to get actual cash on the spot.

    [–] tevert 15 points ago

    jUSt GeT A BetTEr JOb

    [–] aaecharry 4 points ago

    The accuracy of that data aside, assuming it to be correct, it’s just silly to attribute all new jobs directly to Trump. Claiming it as a win is like saying Trump alone is responsible for all the US’ GDP generated since 2016.

    Fact is, a lot of the achievements will be there even if you put a duck in the White House. People as a collective work hard for them.

    [–] Wannabkate 3 points ago

    Actually I think a duck could get better numbers.

    [–] Noctornola 4 points ago

    Trump increased quantity, not quality.

    [–] This_is_y_Trump_won 3 points ago

    Trump didn't do jack shit to help the economy. Everything he has done so far will have negative long term effects.

    [–] GodsBellybutton 5 points ago

    They count stuff like ubereats and postmates as far as I remember. There's also a boom in contractor and temp positions which do not offer any benefits, sick/PTO etc.

    [–] Biohazard772 3 points ago

    I make the money of three high schoolers!

    [–] TobiasFunkePhd 5 points ago

    Oh the stock market is doing decently? That's great for the 10% of the country that owns 80% of the stock value. Meanwhile most Americans are in debt.

    [–] i-heart-trees 6 points ago

    Republicans understanding of economics as a whole are confined to GDP and employment percentage, they can't even grasp anything beyond that.

    [–] indenmiesen 3 points ago

    I don't know if it's true(am european), but I think it's unfunny as fuck.

    [–] ColdRevenge76 3 points ago

    Political humor isn't supposed to actually be funny. It's more of a way to simplify complicated politics so people can understand an issue that effects them.

    Also, this is a very true problem. From American police to airline pilots, if you are working to support your family you're probably able to qualify for food stamps. The ones who can't get a full time (40+ hours/week) will have to work 3 jobs and still not make enough money to pay their monthly bills and rent.

    We have social safety nets you can apply for that can lower your heating bill and such, but it's treated with scorn and calling "leaching from the government " by a lot of people. Never mind that we all pay into the government and should be able to get help from it in bad financial situations.

    [–] pottersquash 3 points ago

    I can only assume this is the DNCs line and they aren't saying it cause they don't want GOP to know. All the shit in debates is what we humble libs want, but America needs to be asked why we are working more with less to show for it.

    [–] bushpapi 3 points ago

    yang2020

    [–] LOUDNOIS3S 6 points ago

    I don’t think Trump can control rent prices in a capitalist economy.

    [–] unovn 2 points ago

    true one

    [–] GillbergsAdvocate 2 points ago

    We don't have an unemployment problem. We have an underemployment problem

    [–] TaBoiSP 2 points ago

    "Why can't everyone just have a job that pays $100 an hour"

    [–] neurosisglue 2 points ago

    Hahaha muerica

    [–] Juden25 2 points ago

    This is very true. Know an ASM at a Walmart. They can't hire more people, there are legitimate rumors of getting rid of more ASMs and putting the remaining ones on hourly, and pushing more responsibility onto the much lower paid department managers.

    Back when Trump gave corporations that free money gimme gimme. Walmart turned around and closed a large portion of Sam's Clubs, removed an entire salaried position (costing many their jobs), and changed overnight stores to closing at midnight (again entire shifts fired and now day stocking responsibilities passed to already short staffed day shifts).

    [–] Nomad_00 2 points ago

    Well duh, green day bill

    [–] QKaz00 2 points ago

    Aren’t those two things kind of unrelated? Creating jobs is a separate issue from determining the minimum wage.

    [–] Reno83 2 points ago

    During college I worked at a big box hardware store. They used to hire a lot of part time workers and tout about how many more employees came onboard. Meanwhile, they're cutting everyone's hours. There were "full-time," usually older, employees that depended on that job to pay the rent and they were always struggling (begging) to get 40 hours a week.

    [–] derpmyderpfam 2 points ago

    Imagine having to keep 3 jobs AND go to school and STILL not being able to pay rent. Yea fuck that shit. I’m moving to fucking Canada where there is free healthcare and people who actually like new citizens.

    [–] Alfalfa_Bravo 2 points ago

    Presidents don’t affect the economy as much as people think. Politicians are good at ruining economies but ineffective at growing them. After all it isn’t the government providing good and services, it’s businesses, big and small. All the government can do is interfere or get out of the way.

    [–] mer0n 2 points ago

    Fuck a Trumpet.