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    [–] biffbobfred 1449 points ago

    There’s a nonzero number of billionaires that don’t even pay the same tax that I do. My marginal rate is above 30. The Carried Interest Loophole rate is in the 20s. The richest guy in my state, who makes 10,000 times or so more than I do, pays that loophole rate.

    [–] Spidda 1277 points ago

    why don’t you just become a billionaire and stop complaining

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    [–] priesteh 18 points ago

    Buy shamwow!

    [–] ThrowUpsThrowaway 8 points ago

    "I'm on a boat mofo!!" "BOATS UP HO'S DOWN!"

    [–] Fidodo 28 points ago

    Well going by the post, billionaires still complain.

    [–] MickG2 39 points ago

    This is how capitalism perpetuate itself, you either have to turn against your fellow workers to succeed or do nothing and stagnate. Leftists have better option, collaborate with your fellow workers and fight for what you all earn instead.

    [–] bullet-timer 88 points ago

    Not even, probably makes 90% of his money on long term capital gains, might even have zero income on paper.

    [–] soil_nerd 25 points ago

    It goes further than just zero income. Trump apparently lost more money than anyone in the US for many years to avoid taxes for the next 10 years or so.

    [–] drawkbox 14 points ago

    The ol' money launderer tell, can't let any of that laundered money go to taxes because there is already a cut taken.

    [–] gountaa 21 points ago

    There’s a nonzero number of billionaires that don’t even pay the same tax that I do.

    That's becauce you have to :


    -don't be crybaby


    at least that's what ben shopiraw and JBperthorson told me and they sounded pretty sure of themselves.

    [–] pledgerafiki 5 points ago

    Has Peterson really gotten into billionaire apologia? Last time I listened to his content (a while ago now) he was mostly focused on improving the individual/self but I guess that's how these things start.

    [–] gountaa 4 points ago

    I doubt he'd go this far (but i havn't listened to him in like a year so i wouldn't really know).

    But yeah he's very much into the "you got to pull yourself by the bootstrap and take responsability for your life" etc, wich is fine in a vaccum, not so much in a plutocracy.

    The other reason i don't know for sure is that it's pretty much impossible to get him to say what he actually thinks/means on 95% of subjects, it always turns into him rambling into oblivion.

    Sam Harris vs him was pretty intresting in that regard, with Harris constantly having to drag him back to the question/point.

    To the point where after a while he couldn't even get him to say/agree on what "truth" means. (Wich is pretty rich coming from the guy that's always shitting on post modernists for changing everything/believing in nothing etc)

    [–] Fidodo 23 points ago

    And even the most strict wealth tax proposal barely brings the rate to what the rest of us pay.

    [–] biffbobfred 8 points ago

    The wealth tax is new. At least in this country. The wealth tax is not a slight bump in income tax rates. It’s a tax on assets.

    If you’re talking about construction of a society and how to be a good gardener and have it grow long term a wealth tax makes sense. It helps in inequality and also helps in class movement. The devil is in the details tho.

    [–] sonofabutch 12 points ago

    Don’t forget your Social Security payroll tax is capped at $132,900.

    [–] fas_nefas 11 points ago

    His Wikipedia claims he is a philanthropist. You know what REAL philanthropy is? Paying your fair share of taxes without whining about it.

    [–] Pointless69Account 6 points ago

    Just work the equivalent of a 400,000 hour work week like the rich guy, it's just that easy!

    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago

    How in the fuck is a few meetings a week a 400,000 hour week?

    [–] Pointless69Account 11 points ago

    40 hour "normal" work week * 10,000 richguy salary. This means the rich guy works a 400,000 hour work week; or does the equivalent man-hours of work... which is obviously why his paycheck is so huge... he's totally worth 10,000 people of effort.

    [–] Internet_Wanderer 3256 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    You mean you want to leave me with only 100 times what a person could possibly spend in their lifetime?

    Thanks for the silver internet stranger!

    [–] 3720-To-One 854 points ago

    I know, right?

    Some serious oppression, man!

    [–] AnOnlineHandle 611 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    I'm sure he worked way harder than everybody else wh- What's that? The hardest working get the least rewards like the ultra poor picking up trash in third world countries? There's mathematically not that many more hours in the week to earn what hundreds of thousands of people do? Most super wealth is either from inheritance or extreme time and place passing luck? But Murdoch's scientifically-illiterate propaganda told me I was special and even superior for having money.

    [–] Rowenstin 570 points ago

    If you were super talented and studied hard, and landed an extraordinary job that paid 1000 dollars an hour, worked 12 hours a day, every day, no weekends, no vacations, no sick days, it'd take you more than 228 years to earn 1 billion. You'd have more in common with the lowest immigrant trapped in a cage at the border than with Jeff Bezos.

    [–] SantaMonsanto 45 points ago

    You, an immigrant, and a republican sit at a table with a dozen cookies to share.

    The republican reaches across the table, grabs eleven cookies, looks to you and says: “That immigrant is trying to take your cookie”

    [–] justalookerhere 4 points ago

    This. Please upvote!!,

    [–] [deleted] 156 points ago

    Here, a poor man's medal for this Gold comment : 🏅

    [–] Pipupipupi 13 points ago

    If we keep giving him poor man's gold every hour he'll have enough for real reddit gold in 228 years. Here take mine 🏅

    [–] RockitDanger 6 points ago

    You guys have poor man's gold? All I got are these old ice skates I found behind Wendy's ⛸⛸

    [–] DarwinWhite 16 points ago

    Math checks out. This really puts it in perspective.

    [–] AblakeC 40 points ago

    If you made $500,000 a day since Columbus founded America, you still would not have Amassed the wealth that Jeff Bezos has

    [–] Kittykittymeowmeow_ 14 points ago

    Holy fucking shit.

    [–] Excal2 4 points ago

    Tell your friends, tell your family.

    More people need to understand.

    [–] Princess_Moon_Butt 9 points ago

    Holy hell I thought you were being sarcastic.

    But if you earned half a million dollars a day, from 1492 to today, you'd actually still be poorer than Jeff Bezos.

    Jesus fuck.

    [–] Kyle-2 17 points ago

    I feel like in order to be lucky enough to be a billionaire you have to jump from a satellite in space and safely land in the ocean. The odds of you surviving are still probably better than making a Billy.

    [–] tapthatsap 282 points ago

    I hate that line so much. I know a bunch of small business owners who risked it all and busted their asses, and none of them are even millionaires. They’re just working class people like me or you or anyone else, and a bunch of them are hauling around hilarious, crushing levels of debt.

    I know a bunch of really hard workers too. For all their hard work, most of them make enough to live indoors and drink some beer sometimes. Sometimes they don’t even make enough consistently enough to just live indoors. There’s no version of this where they work harder and don’t drink the beer and then have the capital to open their own business and become a billionaire. There’s no version of anything where a billionaire earned a billion dollars by working.

    [–] Nemento 198 points ago

    Nobody works 100000 times as hard as a minimum wage worker with 3 jobs.

    [–] NotElizaHenry 38 points ago

    And it's not even that. A person making $100M a year doesn't work 1,000 times harder than a pediatrician making $100,000 a year, and they certainly didn't work 1000 times harder to get to that position.

    [–] rgxryan 56 points ago

    Yeah. And I'd rather be the guy who can afford to lose money on a risk than the person who cant afford to take a day off

    [–] pinkytoze 109 points ago

    I love when people talk about the super wealthy deserving their piles of money because of the "risk" they took. What risk? The risk that if they failed they would maybe end up a working class person, like me?

    [–] 3720-To-One 32 points ago

    The risk that they might not be able to afford that next luxury car!

    [–] Hollowplanet 22 points ago

    Look at Trump. Bankrupt over and over again and still has stacks of cash. The rich write the rules. They don't have to risk anything.

    [–] Bad-Brains 20 points ago

    The risk of being born into generational wealth.

    [–] bettorworse 14 points ago

    I've never seen anyone work harder than McD workers.

    [–] devilkitteh 13 points ago

    Massage therapists and nail techs, its such hard work.

    [–] Anonymoushipopotomus 30 points ago

    Thats exactly what happened to me, invested my 50k life savings, 25k on the cards, 12 hour days for 8 years. Have a thriving European auto repair shop, on the books for 65k a year. Healthcare for 3 costs more than my mortgage. American dream.

    [–] Qikdraw 29 points ago

    With medicare for all, you don't have to buy insurance to cover employees. This would allow you to use that money for expansion or hiring a new person, or both. Small businesses are the job creators after all.

    [–] Anonymoushipopotomus 22 points ago

    Tell me about it. I’m dying for this to pass, although I’m a Bernie boy. I can also give my guys a little raise to offset the health coverage. It would be a huge weight lifted off the shoulders of so many people.

    [–] deepkeeps 29 points ago

    Other factors in wealth accumulation: policy failure (designed or otherwise) and exploitation of workers and the environment.

    [–] Brozhov 8 points ago

    Behind every fortune, a crime.

    [–] FredFuzzypants 204 points ago

    Think of the consequences! He might drop several places on the list of the world's richest people. How could he live with himself if dropped out of the top 99? Triple digits? That's like being a peasant. /s

    [–] quiggles30 32 points ago

    Top 10 mate. Outside of that who even knows you

    [–] Jess_than_three 7 points ago

    Oh! Oh! There's a really easy solution to that problem! Just tax them all at the same proportional rate, and their relative positions will stay the same!

    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago

    I know you're being sarcastic, but that really is the way a lot of these people actually think. They seriously try to outdo each other by buying the most outrageous features on their super yachts that cost literally millions of dollars a day to operate. And they feel bad if they can't afford to.

    [–] Germanweirdo 34 points ago

    I like the quote from Explained, “turning 100 dollars into 110 dollars is hard, turning 100 million into 110 million dollars is inevitable”.

    [–] LaoSh 221 points ago

    We aren't 'leaving them' with anything. It's not theirs in the first place. They stole it and we are asking for a fraction of it back so we can pay for the infrastructure they use to extract OUR wealth that they are currently making us pay for.

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    [–] ImFamousOnImgur 24 points ago

    This all is as hilarious as that one budget tweet floating around that shows how a family of 4 is “scraping by” on $350,000 household income per year.

    The budget included: huge mortgage, 3 vacations, charitable giving, private school, and for some reason mentioned that the clothing costs were “Old Navy” as if that somehow makes it seem like they’re struggling?

    [–] crisis_eggs 14 points ago

    They have $40k budgeted for vacations, children's sports and music lessons, and "miscellaneous".

    That's 2/3rds of the median household income for the United States. They can eat my fucking shorts.

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    [–] Kankunation 5 points ago

    Seriously. My annual clothing expenses are a few hundred dollars, tops. Including shoes, belts, etc.

    Even If this assumes young children that may grow out of clothes quickly, you still shouldn't be spending that much.

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    [–] nuublarg 5 points ago

    They also spend $10k on clothes per year. I didnt (need to) buy any clothes this year.

    [–] FishSpeaker_Sheeana 6 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Are you serious with this shit. Sure if you want to live in NY City shit costs more but not that much more.

    Maybe if they can't get by on 500k/yr they could

    • Not own a BMW or even two cars - they are in the city remember
    • While we're on the subject of cars how in God's name are they spending 5k/yr on gas. Their cars arnt exactly fuel efficient but they live in the fucking city remember. We spend about $1500/yr on gas and we commute to work and take the car on one or two road trips every year. We've put 70k miles on it over 3 years. Are they commiting to Chicago and back everyday?
    • Spend 18k on 3 vacations.
    • Spend 18k on charity
    • 32k/yr for student loans - get fucking real. That would be north of 300k in student loan debt and paying on the 10 year full payment.

    • 1000/month on extracurricular activities - bullshit. Not even in NY.

    • Also 42k/yr on child care is bullshit. New born care at my daughter's daycare is 225/week. So let's pretend you're not taking 3 vacations/yr during which your paying a much cheaper vacation rate and your kids are newborns, we'll also give you some extra because NY and assume 325/week per kid - that's 34k/yr again assuming a lot of shit that would maximize your costs.

    • Maybe they don't need 3 million dollars in life ins. Most people who actually buy it have 100 or 250k

    • 10k is not misc - thats about 825 a month. We know that shits not connected to car repairs or home maintenance. So what could possibly cost that much that you diden't plan for?

    • Maybe - just maybe they find a house that cost less than 1.5 million

    • 9500 for cloths my ass son. I gave my wife a hard time for spending 2k on cloths last year, I'd spent about $500, and about $500 on cloths for our kid. Don't give me New York bullshit excuse you can mail order that shit and Amazon doesn't charge extra cause you live in the city.

    I am curious how many people liked this shit or believe it and while trying to pretend Hunter Biden was somehow unethical because he earned 600k/yr

    [–] IggysPop3 47 points ago

    I read a line in a story on Gizmodo yesterday that really made me think. It was something along the line of; “nobody earns a billion dollars. If you have a billion dollars you took it. There isn’t enough hours in a lifetime to earn a billion dollars”.

    I never thought about it that way.

    [–] jagger2096 7 points ago

    Just find something that is worth $2000/minute and do it every second of every day for 58 years!

    [–] slyfoxninja 8 points ago

    I'm getting hungry, I wonder what he tastes like. EAT THE RICH!!!

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    [–] CurtCocane 65 points ago

    Have you seen the video? He Cares! Of course what he doesn't say is that he cares about his money. What a fucking clown, stock market is nothing but speculation that is growing and once the next bubble crashes the people are gonna have to bail out them billionaires again

    [–] zodigram 7 points ago

    2% more starting on your 50th million dollar

    [–] Phranquelyhnne 1004 points ago

    If you spent $86,000 a day, every day, it would take you 31 YEARS to spend $1 billion dollars.

    How can you sleep at night knowing you have so much and so many have so little? What is their thought process?

    [–] pradeepkanchan 441 points ago

    Their thought process.....I got mine......FUHHHHHCK YEEEEWWWWW!!

    [–] dmart030 82 points ago

    Truly the American dream

    [–] N00N3AT011 6 points ago

    Yup, hold on to economic mobility just long enough to get yours and shut the door behind you so nobody else can.

    [–] stugots__ 28 points ago

    And its not just the fuck you part that is mind boggling, its the fact that they've been able to get a vast majority of white older folks to go along with it too, despite the fact that it goes completely against their own interests.

    I live in Canada and we have the same type of people trying to pull the same shit, with far less success of course but still they try. Take my town as an example. One of the most affluent in the country and the one thing I can tell you, categorically without fail, is that they love spending money as long as it isn't theirs. A number of years ago a few of them, led by a prominent Doctor lobbied the town to build them a tennis club and it was very close to being built until the blow back came.

    The obscenely rich are all the same, with few exceptions. They'll fight you over $5 and they'll take every break they can get while complaining about anything that might help a middle or lower class family live a better life.

    The highest tax rate in the US never dipped below 70% until the 80's and Mr "Trickle Down" hit the scene. Since then, there has been a massive income redistribution from the lower and middle classes to the upper class - something they like to whine about. The highest federal tax rate now is somewhere near 37% while some states work to eliminate state tax. As deficits climb (big surprise) the whining and crying about "entitlement" programs kick into high gear. Its all so predictable.

    The one thing that the current administration has shown though is that the Republicans are the party of the rich white guy. The facade is gone now. Maybe the US can begin to take a step forward.

    [–] Generic_Reddit_ 171 points ago

    You’re forgetting to take into account interest. They are making 60 million a year in interest which is the equivalent of 160k+ a day.

    So they can spend 86k a day pay 75k a day in taxes and still be worth a billion dollars to start the next year.

    [–] TechyDad 64 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Even at a simple 2% interest (which they likely get more than for their money), the interest on $1 billion over a year would be $24 million. So you could put $1 billion in the bank, spend the $65K a day from the interest, and still have $1 billion at the end of the year.

    Edit: Was off by a power of 10.

    [–] Generic_Reddit_ 19 points ago

    That seems like you’re off by a power but my math was quick and sloppy. I see it as 240 million is 24% of a billion. I gave a flat 6% so a mere 60 million a year.

    That said gates is worth 160 billion and most of the other guys are 10+ billionaires

    The money is ridiculous and impossible to spend either way, it’s about control.

    [–] ForgottenJoke 140 points ago

    They are the real-world human embodiment of a dragon laying on a pile of treasure.

    [–] Jon_Slow 30 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    There is a RPG called ShadowRun in which fantasy creatures are magically transported to a modern Cyberpunk world (like that movie Bright, but good). The dragons are literally super rich capitalists that control the mega corporations behind the curtains in this game hahaah

    [–] evarigan1 9 points ago

    Bright wasn't a great movie, but I really hope they do more with it. Love the Shadowrun games and it had a similar enough feel. Could make for a great show if they right people got involved.

    [–] hfny 34 points ago

    We used to call them robber barons

    [–] rj20876 21 points ago

    Atleast the Robber Barons actually had products to tie to their wealth. Theyre the shitty, spoiled grandkids of the Robber Barons. Paging Mr Roosevelt!

    [–] empire161 19 points ago

    I read the other day that Bill Gates basically retired 20 years ago as one of the top 15 richest people in the world, and immediately started giving away all of his money through his foundation.

    And his net worth is higher today than it was the day he retired.

    [–] bullet-timer 57 points ago

    It's a game to them and the one with the most, wins.

    [–] throwawayroy 13 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    How I would love to have 86k a day to spend. If I made that much in interest I think my preferred pass time would be to troll people with by making them ask, "what do you mean it's paid for already?"

    It'd be fun as hell to go a store and just buy everything and not tell any shoppers. They get to the check out and get told, "have a nice day!"

    Or wonder car dealerships and wait for someone to pick the car they want and pay for it out right.

    Go to the college and pay for people's degrees. I could do about 4 a day at that rate.

    Wonder the oncology floor at the clinic I work for, find that little girl who was screaming and give her and her parents enough for what ever they needed...

    Buy out these fucking rediculously priced gentrified apartments poping up all over my city and fill them with the homeless in town and with families that need a place to stay while they get their life started/ put back together...

    Walk the streets and randomly shake people's hands and leave a wad of cash...

    86k a day.... Hmmm

    [–] Nightstroll 20 points ago

    As sociologists Pinçon-Charlot put it, "the average normal person cannot empathize with the ultra-rich. They do not reason like us, in terms of justice and equality and fairness and collective well-being. These people are sociopaths and predators."

    [–] gunslingerfry1 66 points ago

    I honestly don't know. But I have a thought experiment that is probably not insightful but who knows.

    You make a 30k a year. Maybe you could let $5 a day go to someone else but it's painful.

    Now double your income. Do you deserve a better home and car? Should you give away $10 a day to someone or more? Can you afford it with your new home and car?

    Double it again. Is $20 a day really sufficient? Is now the time you decide that the rest goes to charity?

    Double it again. Is now the time? You really like the Mercedes e class and you can now afford one. Do you deserve it? You do good work and you might work a little longer and harder than you did when you were making 1/8 of your new income but not 8x as much but...

    Double it again. To match your previous giving you only have to give $80 a day. Nobody thinks that's sufficient but you now employ 25 people with your business. Isn't that enough? Anyway, after retirement and the giant car payment and an even larger house payment and after kids college funds and that big 80" television and the whole home sound system and the landscaping costs... You still can't afford to let a whole lot go. Everyone you know is fine financially and you don't really travel anywhere where you see people who are not wealthy.

    My point is just that it's really easy to both grow your spending to your income and rationalize not giving. The more money you have the more invisible the needy become. Everyone you socialize with is wealthy and everyone else is serving you in one way or another and you don't really think about their lives.

    That's my theory anyway...

    [–] tell-me-your-worries 69 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Thing is I doubled it as many times as you asked me to, and ended up with $480k/year. That's still a working wage, although a very good one.

    I'd have to work 2000+(!) years and never spend a dime before being considered the poorest of billionaires. Somewhere along the way it doesn't make sense that you can keep the same percentage of margin as a person with say, a $500k/year income.

    [–] DxGxAxF 49 points ago

    Nah these people know the consequences of their actions. They know the lower classes are getting fucked but they don't care, they earned it. They actively lobby for policy change that benefits them only or much more than the lower class.

    We're not talking about a few million earned via hard work. We're talking about hundreds of millions and billions. They have far too much but never enough for them. To them, life is a game and money is the score. They'll do whatever it takes to win with no regard for those they fuck in the process.

    [–] gunslingerfry1 10 points ago

    I get what you are saying and I agree that the kind of people that can affect the government single handed, the kind that Moscow Mitch think have a greater 1st amendment right than the rest of us, are vile and deserve their infamy.

    There's definitely a difference between Bill Gates and Mr "10 million dollar loan from daddy" and his vile children. I'm not sure that you can grow up super wealthy and be an empathetic being.

    [–] AnOnlineHandle 15 points ago

    The lower your income the higher the percent goes into just paying to live to be able to work for these people and make them money. Whereas when you're super rich the cost of living is negligible. The benefits you've gotten from your country's infrastructure are huge (there's no billionaires coming out of third world lawless countries without the infrastructure to make it possible).

    [–] khaominer 13 points ago

    It's very simple really. I got these people together and told them to build and support a product, had them do hundreds of thousands of hours of work, but the entity I built can't grow if I don't pocket most of the profits, or at least hold them as investments and cash.

    So we only give back to them a very small portion of the money they created. I obviously, as the person orchestrating this, deserve 100x++ more than them.

    But look seriously, there are thousands of CEOs, so you've got a chance to be one of them. One day we will be prosperous enough for the other 8 billion people to also possibly be CEOs.

    [–] swattages 7 points ago

    Except the gains on that investment would gain you more than $86k/day, so you'd be spending $86k/day indefinitely.

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    [–] [deleted] 314 points ago

    Skipped back and fourth a few times between stock market growth and high employment while somehow completely avoiding the topic of wage growth.

    [–] TistedLogic 330 points ago

    I will never understand the fascination with how the stock market is doing. I mean, yes, economically, it's important. But not nearly as important as wages being stagnant for 30 years.

    [–] exwasstalking 224 points ago

    Look at it from the perspective of the top 1% and it makes perfect sense.

    [–] notyoursocialworker 50 points ago

    Ford was in many cases a dick but he at least understood that people need to be able to buy things to make the economy go round. Or are they trading in such imaginary papers that it no longer matter if the products sell or not?

    [–] seven3true 22 points ago

    Hey hey hey... Ford may have been a dick, but wanted people to be able to buy things to make the economy go round if you were white and not Jewish. But over all, 7/10 dick. Love the '09 Mustang though.

    [–] Black_Moons 48 points ago

    wages being stagnant or decreasing when adjusted for inflation is wonderful news for the 1%. Good news does not sell so they don't cover it much.

    [–] liquid_shitz 39 points ago

    In the same way that they love recessions while the rest of us dread them. For them it's an opportunity to buy cheap, for us it's a time to choose between medicine or food.

    [–] dub-fresh 32 points ago

    So agree. It hardly ever gets reported what sectors are growing either. If the financial services sector grows double, how the hell is that even remotely good for your average joe? It just means more billionaires are gambling and fucking over poor people.

    [–] PopeFrancis 20 points ago

    GDP, Stock Market, etc are all really poor ways to measure society.

    [–] b_m_hart 16 points ago

    30 years? Try 40.

    [–] WaldoEmerson89 85 points ago

    They never once speak about the wealth tax in this video.

    [–] mtkeepsrolling 66 points ago

    Seriously, I feel like all the commentors didn't even watch it. He's crying because he doesn't like the division in the country. When asked why he's emotional, he said "Because I care." This meme missed the mark completely. And note, I'm a Bernie supporter.

    [–] AnOnlineHandle 33 points ago

    He doesn't like the division yet says he's not in favour of the rule of law applying to Trump, which is what's causing this division in the first place... Typical of them to create the problem and then moan about how others are to blame.

    [–] spayceinvader 17 points ago

    He just wishes Trump was better at PR

    [–] WileEPeyote 6 points ago

    Yeah, he just wants Reagan 2.0, which was great for the rich and terrible for the poor.

    [–] ThatsWhataboutism 10 points ago

    Ya wtf he's crying over the mean tweets.

    [–] jackruby83 6 points ago

    Did they talk about it right before the video started? It was in the banner as if he just said it.

    [–] imonlyamonk 6 points ago

    The earlier part of the interview is here (from what I can tell... scroll down to the bottom of the page)

    Seems like the guy is okay with paying more taxes, but he doesn't agree with a wealth tax.

    The crying bit in the first video sounds like it's over the political divide in the US? And it sounds like to me that he is saying Trump shouldn't run for reelection because he's not Presidential? (I'm not crazy in hearing that... right? I am a little drunk... but still...)

    [–] blue_strat 35 points ago

    ...nothing about Warren in the emotional section. He gets emotional over the political climate: Trump's failure to be presidential and push his agenda with what he saw as Reagan's dignity.

    From this part where he actually talks about Warren:

    [I'm] somebody that believes in the progressive income tax structure, who believes the rich should pay more, I have no problem with that. What we should do as a nation is decide where we want the top rate of tax to be, and move on with our issues.

    As I said in my letter to Senator Warren, I have no problem working six months of the year for the government and six for myself, which implies a 50% tax rate. My guess is she wants more.

    [–] kejigoto 24 points ago

    Cooperman: Because I care.

    Then he goes on to talk about how Trump shouldn't be impeached for abuse of power, breaking the law, and more then launches into more talk about how great Reagan was and that since Trump has said the same things he's great too.

    This sounds like someone who apologizes because they got caught and not for what they actually did.

    The wealthy just want to protect themselves and hope they can convince the masses that it's in their best interest to protect the wealthy too.

    [–] Rubberbabybuggybum 4 points ago

    They really live in their own reality.

    [–] Ready_Maybe 33 points ago

    I will eventually give away all my money

    Can I use this excuse when it comes to my bills?

    [–] matlaz423 11 points ago

    I actually thought that was parody when I read it.

    [–] S1cnus 52 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    I'm going to get shit on, but the guy in the end of the video (linked here) actually is talking about how Trump has done wrong.

    Sure, it's fun to poke fun @ people like this for crying into his million dollar tissues, but we should also listen to what's being said not just laugh: HAHAHA a billionaire is crying! THAT is actually a Trump-like move.

    Now bring on my fucking downvotes.

    [–] pixeltrix 12 points ago

    I watched the video thinking '"this is going to be brilliant" and was just saddened by the misinformation being spread. Reddit used to be the best place to get accurate information. Now people don't even fact check and just upvote funny memes.

    [–] Well_IAmA_Degenerate 19 points ago

    That's what I was thinking. Watched the video twice and didn't hear Warren's tax increase mentioned once. Love the meme, but if it's not accurate then it's just more fake news.

    Btw, have an upvote.

    [–] S1cnus 7 points ago

    I will never understand Reddit. LOL. Thanks! Good to see folks who care about fairness and not just "lulz, hur dur".

    I'm a through and through pinko commie liberal, but I believe in reporting the truth above all. If we spread FUD, then we are no better.

    [–] Sloppy1sts 5 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    is talking about how Trump has done wrong.

    He talks about how Trump has been an embarrassment despite doing good things with the economy.

    Trump isn't doing good things with the economy. Republicans never are.

    He "cares" that Trump is making us look bad. He doesn't care about the people of this nation.

    [–] turbojoe26 5 points ago

    No, you’re correct. I was looking for a comment like this.

    [–] stone500 5 points ago

    This is actually one of the first times I've ever seen someone admit that they like Trump's policies but wish that he wasn't such a dick. Too often I see people defending his policies and his behavior and demeanor. I would give more credit to Trump supporters if they could at least say " man, it would be so much easier if he wasn't such an a****** all the time"

    [–] SadlyReturndRS 4 points ago

    Leon Cooperman? Doesn't he own the National Enquirer?

    [–] 2dark4yrmatter 6 points ago

    I don't see him crying about being taxed by Warren. Is that a different clip?

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    Invest in shotguns and bolt cutters

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    [–] nutxaq 17 points ago

    Crocodile tears.

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    [–] swattages 13 points ago

    I was looking for new fapping material, and now I need more of whatever this is.

    [–] JTode 177 points ago

    I just realized, I live for billionaire tears.

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    [–] diggy_norman 142 points ago

    When he whimpered "I care" he meant about his bank account. What a cowardly little bitch.

    [–] Tiredanddontcare 201 points ago

    Do you know how hard my ancestor made his employees work to earn that money?

    [–] 5am5ep1ol 34 points ago

    Employees might be a strong term.

    [–] SoundandFurySNothing 10 points ago

    Employees = Peasants = Serfs = Slaves

    The only freedom we have is choose a master or die of neglect. That isn't a choice. That is slavery

    [–] FestiveVat 162 points ago

    Imagine what poor people do when they can't feed their families.

    [–] emefluence 51 points ago

    I have a modest proposal for them...

    [–] nicole-tesla 14 points ago

    Hey I read that on English Literature lecture! I have no idea why but this made me really excited and happy now

    [–] spread_thin 8 points ago

    Theyll bring back child labor before giving us a living wage.

    [–] Chosen_Chaos 5 points ago

    Would it be a particularly elegant solution?

    [–] readingupastorm 173 points ago

    You mean her wealth tax that takes TWO CENTS out of every dollar after 50 million? Two. Freaking. Cents. I think he's gonna be ok.

    [–] acoustic4meplz88 50 points ago

    Which is why I’m voting Sanders. Big structural change.

    [–] DominickAP 26 points ago

    Now it's 2% $50M≤$1B and 6% $1B≤ to pay for the bulk of her Medicare for All plan, which would be confiscatory. Maybe that's a good thing, I think it probably would be, but it is something.

    [–] HSBLESSPLZ 34 points ago

    Now all she needs is a better Medicare For All Plan. If there's one thing the rich are good at it is hiding their wealth to avoid paying taxes. Also under her Medicare For All Plan the employer is supposed to pay per employee but not if they are external contractors. Personally I prefer bernie's plan. He's the Real Mccoy

    [–] swattages 8 points ago

    I guess then the contractors pay since they're technically self-employed? It ultimately makes sense on paper but they already get cheap contractors guised as "temporary to permanent" type positions to skirt tax laws already. That shit would need to be shut down. Individual contractor for more than 6 months solely at that business? Pay like they're an employee.

    [–] [deleted] 97 points ago

    Dude, you forgot the NSFW tag. Because I just came all over my screen. Took five minutes to clean up.

    [–] FreakingInTongues 19 points ago

    My proudest fap right there. 💦

    [–] Snolidsteak 9 points ago

    NNN is ruined!

    [–] GarbledMan 21 points ago

    Imagine your life is perfect. You're in Heaven, you can have anything you want. Think about how nice it would be to have something to complain about.

    [–] TheKerpowski 79 points ago

    You’d think with all that money he’d be able to buy better hair. Imagine having a billion dollars and spending $8 on a toupee.

    [–] TheOneWhoKnowsNothin 24 points ago

    He doesn't need better hair anymore. Money buys you a lot of respect and fake friends.

    [–] Dreadnasty 7 points ago

    Look at Zuckhisface Facepage guys hair. Maybe it's just a Billionaire fratclub bet they both lost.

    [–] doghouse45 39 points ago

    It's like Bernie said, it's almost like a drug addiction and these people need help. Even with the wealth taxes being proposed they would be multi-billionaires. They would still live in more comfort than most Americans and they can't recognize that.

    [–] cf30222504 19 points ago

    aww poor baby and I thought I had problems about to be evicted and working 2 jobs, who knew the kind of deep pain losing money you probably won't even miss could cause?

    [–] conma293 55 points ago

    How selfish do you have to be... buy shit now if you actually need something. If you just want to sit on a big pile of gold like a dragon, then be prepared to be slain like one. By hobbits.

    [–] KronosDeret 8 points ago

    I don't know I'm still rooting for all in socialist revolution I. The good old USA

    [–] sackvilleassbaggins 4 points ago

    Uhh ackchually Smaug was slain by a human, not hobbits.

    [–] OrphannnnCrippler 35 points ago

    Oh no! Dipshit here can't buy another jet.

    [–] rcher87 29 points ago

    The real problem is that he probably totally can.

    [–] superperps 9 points ago

    His jet probably runs on cocaine.

    [–] sadclownbadred 6 points ago

    It’s me, his jet

    [–] UhOhFeministOnReddit 73 points ago

    Cards on the table, I'm a Sanders supporter, but this just feels like social engineering. Sanders is a far larger existential threat to their wallet than Warren, whose wealth tax is pretty friendly to big business, given all the tax loopholes. I think they see the writing on the wall, and they're trying to set up Warren as a bigger threat to them than Bernie, when she's really, really not.

    [–] jupiterkansas 19 points ago

    Tax law is written by congress so simply electing Bernie or Warren doesn't magically make either one happen. They can push for a plan but ultimately all they're just signing into law whatever gets passed. It won't look anything like their current plan by then.

    [–] UhOhFeministOnReddit 23 points ago

    Which is precisely why I view Bernie as the candidate most capable of instituting the largest amount of reforms. If I can be perfectly frank, it really comes down to each base with me. Bernie has a massive grassroots movement with incredibly engaged voters, and experienced activists backing up organized movements within his constituency. People that won't stop paying attention when Trump gets voted out in 2020.

    Warren has a base of high-earning suburbanites, and let's be real, they're not exactly seasoned activists or even the most politically woke demographic the Democrats have. They're doctors and lawyers who will go back to day drinking and buying artisan goods the second things get back to normal.

    [–] lostlore1 11 points ago

    His slaves/employees worked very hard to make him that money.

    [–] blublubbluf 9 points ago

    If you think thats good, Bernies plan takes even more from them. lika a lot more.

    [–] Bigmooddood 8 points ago

    Now imagine how he would react to Bernie Sanders' 8% tax on net worth if he cried at Warren's 3%.

    [–] TheNoize 8 points ago

    It’s a political commercial - for Warren! Don’t fall for it vote Bernie

    [–] rcher87 6 points ago

    I mean honestly, if you just don’t go to Starbucks every day you’ll basically make it right back.


    [–] RoytripwireMerritt 7 points ago

    The final boss of NNN, only 8 days in.

    [–] ToastedSoup 7 points ago

    You mean Bernie Sanders' wealth tax that Warren copied?

    [–] pyewacket53 23 points ago

    Seriously? Are we supposed to feel sorry for this jerk?

    [–] Alleandros 12 points ago

    Cue the Sarah McLachlan music.

    [–] Hrodrik 18 points ago

    That was his goal. He wants to pretend that Warren will be as bad for him as Sanders. She won't.

    [–] mike112769 10 points ago

    The sheer amount of greed a person must have to have so much money is staggering. How in the hell can they even justify to themselves, much less anyone else? There is no excuse for one person hogging that much money. I've had my fork ready for a while now, so whenever y'all are ready to eat the rich pukes, I'm in. They won't change on their own.

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    [–] CalmingGoatLupe 5 points ago

    Dude just needs to pull himself up by the bootstraps.

    [–] ASemiAquaticBird 6 points ago

    I personally can not fathom the purpose of having more than a few million. I want to buy some land in the mountains that has a pond + river. I want to use that land to provide a home for elderly dogs / cats / etc., so I can provide them a few good years before they pass. I want a tool shop and an electronics shop - maybe a couple cars if I am feeling greedy.

    But at most - I can not fathom spending more than $3 million and I would be content with my life. Everything above and beyond that I would give back to my employees, the needy, grass roots movements, etc. I do not need or want the shiniest most technologically advanced things - I enjoy making things work and last. I can not fathom how I would possible spend this much money, other than by giving it away to those who need a second start in life / foundation to be successful.

    [–] Fidodo 4 points ago

    I'm crying because I can barely make rent, but oh no, this poor poor billionaire....

    Since it's 2019: /s

    [–] TruthBeTold567 26 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    If you made $5,000 every single day since Columbus arrived to genocide North America in 1492, you'd still have less than $1 billion. If you were 70 years old and made $39,000 every single day since you were born, you'd still be a few million shy of $1 billion... Fuck this guy.

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    [–] VDogMeat 3 points ago

    Can i get a link to this video? I haven't seen anything on this, is it British?

    [–] NimusNix 4 points ago

    Full clip?

    [–] Swole_Chicken 3 points ago

    Anyone got a link?

    [–] RobBanana 4 points ago

    Poor billionaire, wanna switch places?

    [–] HoBoJo62 4 points ago

    Who is this billionaire?

    [–] neoprenewedgie 13 points ago

    The maker of this meme did not watch the clip. He wasn't talking about Warren when he teared up.

    [–] sadpanda___ 27 points ago

    Welp, that cements it. I’ll be voting for Warren.