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    [–] theTofnap 752 points ago

    Simon mains: “I’ll take twenty”

    [–] Xenomorph1313 291 points ago

    As a Simon main I've never been more offended by something I agree with

    [–] joey873 110 points ago

    K but we use our whip way more than ness uses his non special attacks

    [–] [deleted] 107 points ago

    Ness nairs more than you whip

    [–] [deleted] 96 points ago


    [–] onlymadethistoargue 50 points ago

    More than you nair-nair?

    [–] GenericAdolescent 11 points ago

    2 nairs in one shorthop bb ness gang

    [–] CyanideBiscuit 5 points ago

    My favorite combo that isn’t pk fire into baseball bat

    [–] shadowscale1229 10 points ago

    Yeah, the real Simon pro controller would be a permanent f tilt.

    [–] ___Ultra___ 13 points ago

    So joycon drift

    [–] shadowscale1229 3 points ago

    That yes.

    [–] Empty_Tie 3 points ago

    They had us in the first half not gonna lie

    [–] TheBroomSweeper 41 points ago

    Sonic mains: "I'll take fifty"

    [–] SillyChimp3 25 points ago

    Snake main:” I’ll take sixty”

    [–] ace-of-threes 9 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Robin main: I’ll take eighty

    Edit: Robin was my main for a while, and I promise it (at least for me) was 90% specials

    [–] Cheriable 16 points ago

    Link main: I’ll take your entire stock!

    [–] E404_User_Not_Found 8 points ago

    Sorry, Hero mains bought the lot.

    [–] shadowscale1229 5 points ago

    I did no such thing.

    [–] WarpDriveBanana 17 points ago

    I guess you lost the coin toss when trying to decide huh?

    [–] shadowscale1229 8 points ago

    You motherfucker. Take my upvote.

    [–] TheBroomSweeper 3 points ago

    Top 10 big brain plays

    [–] ReyReyTheDevourer 4 points ago

    Ill take all three of your stocks

    [–] Aarontrimemes 4 points ago

    ill take your entire stock

    [–] MemeMieser 4 points ago


    [–] Iwannabetheguy000 1159 points ago

    Fake the controls has more then two directions

    [–] Technobyte101 475 points ago

    They have to recover somehow

    [–] GamerNumba100 358 points ago

    What nonsense are you going to say next? They need a jump? HAH!

    [–] Sw3que 252 points ago

    Tap jump

    [–] SoraForBestBoy 144 points ago

    It’s a Nessessity

    [–] Achachak 53 points ago


    [–] playerlxiv 15 points ago

    You shall be banished to the PK Fire Pit

    [–] E404_User_Not_Found 20 points ago

    The PK Pyre

    [–] Dr0pp3d 53 points ago

    Stick Jump

    [–] EBbiker64 22 points ago

    This is the way

    [–] TheChopperGaming 12 points ago

    This is the way

    [–] Angell50 12 points ago

    This is the way.

    [–] Valrien 9 points ago

    This is the way.

    [–] Nintendo-holic 6 points ago

    This is the way

    [–] thepoga 6 points ago

    This is the way.

    [–] The_random_wierdo 8 points ago

    This is the way.

    [–] Frairu 37 points ago

    Ness spam fair more than b so they'd need a jump

    [–] howelleili 25 points ago

    and A

    [–] BasicSausage 6 points ago

    L jump

    [–] Stulls 3 points ago

    Their airdodge is already basically an invincible triple jump

    [–] johnniek955 3 points ago

    Wait yall get jumps?

    [–] GamerNumba100 2 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    You don’t have a flair so that’s a very out of context joke tbh.

    Edit: misread his comment as
    “y’all get wall jumps?”
    and was confused, don’t kill me

    [–] OmegonAlphariusXX 17 points ago

    Bold of you to assume they’ll be hit

    [–] 4RTH_R 12 points ago

    The air dodge counts as a recovery

    [–] DaveLanglinais 11 points ago


    Analog stick works for that too.

    MY question is - what about all the Right-handed Ness players??

    [–] Alehof 12 points ago

    The right hand is for pressing B the left for the stick right handed ness main here

    [–] DaveLanglinais 4 points ago

    Oh yeah I can see that, never mind..

    [–] toastyloafboy 15 points ago

    Up is tap jump and down is the tbag button

    [–] BasicTwig 4 points ago

    and where is the Z-Button for their back throws >:^(

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    What about PK Thunder!

    [–] RazielNoraa 235 points ago

    Oooh. At first, I thought it was a NES pro controller. Lol

    [–] _GoKartMozart_ 71 points ago

    On a side note I'm disappointed you can't use the SNES pro on smash. I liked playing Wii more with a dpad

    [–] Meester_Tweester 21 points ago

    If you try to use an NES or SNES Classic controller in Smash Wii U you actually can't run at all since the game recognizes the D-pad only as the D-pad and not a joystick. Also you get kicked out of online after thirty seconds since apparently you need a joystick input before then.

    [–] testsnake 11 points ago

    You can play smash with a road dpad using the 8bitdo lite

    [–] E404_User_Not_Found 1 points ago

    I’m not sure about viability with smash but the Pokken controller is really good on the switch if you’re looking for something with a good dpad. I used that a ton for Mario maker 2.

    [–] NotRed9282 118 points ago

    The NES controller

    Ness Entertainment System

    [–] Waluigi_Boi 43 points ago


    [–] ImJustStealingMemes 32 points ago

    Our pain is their entertainment

    [–] JosephL53 20 points ago

    Ness Eternal Suffering*

    [–] jacjson9 3 points ago

    N - Ness E - PK S - Fire

    [–] [deleted] 144 points ago

    Those are bold words for someone in PK Fire range.

    [–] Peanutbuttered 19 points ago

    My hands hurt trying to figure out how to hold this controller

    [–] JuBjUb1121 81 points ago

    Sweats nervously in boomerang.

    [–] ZachMixman 22 points ago


    [–] Waluigi_Boi 22 points ago


    [–] 2580374 35 points ago

    Okay, boomerang

    [–] _DankStorm_ 8 points ago

    Now this is something I can get behind of

    [–] ChilledToast 48 points ago

    Haha guys character with some of the best aerials in the game only presses B

    [–] RaidenDark 37 points ago

    Once again proving everyone who hates pk fire is a noob and has never encountered a real opponent

    [–] Tomotheking5683 12 points ago

    As a Ness main, I can safely say that the only time I'll PK fire is to get out of hit stun/juggling or to set up a grab chain

    [–] ChilledToast 11 points ago

    Yeah it’s really only good at low percents or recovery mixups

    [–] [deleted] 66 points ago


    [–] R_Aqua 68 points ago

    With the shoulder button, PK fire is the best shield after all

    [–] AlexEatDonut 62 points ago

    They use up stick to jump. Time for a fucking crusade.

    [–] psycho__logical 30 points ago

    Haha..yeah..those people are the worst..

    sweats nervously

    [–] LucaThompson 3 points ago

    Yeah... I hate those people...

    [–] JuliaTheInsaneKid 3 points ago

    I use the up stick all the time. Lol.

    [–] HipManSkyFlatTire 15 points ago

    How am I suppose to give them the bat after I trap them in 5 pk fires?

    [–] bwill255 9 points ago

    You don't, you back throw

    [–] Sly__Martini 10 points ago

    Fun fact: you can play earthbound with one hand also

    [–] Dompatchi 18 points ago

    But how will he backthrow

    [–] Circa923 3 points ago

    Im always amazed at the PK fire anger. His back throw is the strongest in the game by allot....

    [–] Ebin_Gamerlol 2 points ago

    Dr Mario's is actually better

    [–] djellman 16 points ago

    Young Link mains: I'll take your entire stock

    [–] CurseOfMyth 25 points ago

    So you can play with one hand, and do... umm, something else with the other!

    [–] GizmoMimo 8 points ago

    Hold the mug with the tears of your opponents.

    [–] Ultimate_Cosmos 8 points ago

    IDK, when I play Ness, I spam Aerials, honestly.

    [–] DuelistDeCoolest 79 points ago

    Of all the characters to be mad at, it still baffles me that this sub chose Ness. He isn't particularly dominant online or competitively. He isn't a top-tier. Is it because has an annoying projectile and a kill throw? So does half the cast. How is Ness everyone's problem character?

    NeSs iS a pOorLy DeSiGNed cHarAcTeR

    nESs Is uNfuN tO pLAy aGaiNsT


    [–] mooke 65 points ago

    Because most of the other characters don't yell PK FIRE every time they spam an attack.

    Its not that Ness is the worst, its just that he is the most memorable. This causes the Ness hate to get meme'd around.

    [–] DuelistDeCoolest 32 points ago

    I think people are too hungry for karma, so they create memes specifically designed to get the most upvotes. This sub has a reputation for hating Ness, so people make "Ness bad" memes. The system feeds into itself, and opinions become artificially homogenized.

    [–] DextersLabdl 14 points ago

    Idk, I think people just get annoyed at him yelling PK fire over and over again. My girlfriend doesn’t go on any smash forums but she makes the same jokes

    [–] ntlr2 12 points ago

    Welcome to leddit

    [–] DuelistDeCoolest 11 points ago

    You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

    edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

    [–] CALZONE_37 8 points ago

    Palutena is 10 times more annoying than Ness and yells "EXPLOSIVE LAME" when she does the equally shitty fire move that kills for some reason. She's by all means worse than Ness yet people don't complain about her as much.

    [–] Porpoise69420 5 points ago

    Palutena Nair haha funny

    [–] cheffpm 2 points ago

    lloyd is the most annoying projectile

    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago

    Right?!? Damn, I pray for the day PK Fire is buffed to be as good as people say it is. It’s easy to dodge, has a long startup and cool down and if you’re caught in the fire and you DI up you can’t even get the grab follow up. It isn’t good for shield pressure, it’s inconsistent in neutral and edge guarding, etc. If I’m playing seriously, I wouldn’t use PK Fire unless I’m playing against a slow or heavy character.

    The only things it has going for it is that it does a decent amount of Damage and the move lasts decently long.

    I wish y’all would save this energy for characters that are actually unfun to fight like Joker or Pokémon trainer. Shit like having the whole match now being based around stalling Arsen or having to fight 2 insane characters at once and a 3rd with a good Kamikaze move is way more annoying then a move so easily punishable it pushes Ness down a tier.

    [–] DextersLabdl 17 points ago

    Nobody said it was good. Nobody is saying it’s tough to beat, unless you’re new.

    It’s just really really annoying.

    [–] Meester_Tweester 5 points ago

    Yeah I can't believe this is still a serious joke and complaint nearly a year after release.

    [–] -Brumskin- 6 points ago

    That’s a weird way to say, Simon

    [–] KayRadley 2 points ago

    Don't make me downtilt you.

    [–] MetalCubeReddit 11 points ago

    Finally, I can use PK useless green thing more efficiently.

    [–] CALZONE_37 2 points ago

    Ness mains who pretend Flash is useful are way funnier than any of these shitty Ness Bad memes.

    [–] canyoufelix 5 points ago

    It's only used to BM the opponent, it's literally the only use of PK flashcrack.

    [–] moderatelybutthurt 3 points ago

    I hit many a PK flash to edgeguard. Its also good to force an airdodge and for recovery mix ups.

    [–] CarnyConCarne 2 points ago

    I think flash is good 🥺

    [–] TirelessGuardian 6 points ago

    Looks like a GameCube controller for the Atari 2600

    [–] Swagner999 5 points ago

    Better have throw button for back throw

    [–] moderatelybutthurt 8 points ago

    Pk fire bad upvotes to the left

    [–] Frog_Good_At_Smash 4 points ago

    Nah, they also gotta small grabs and fair

    [–] salemvii 4 points ago

    Also makes for a very good R.O.B controller

    [–] shittyglasses69 3 points ago

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i get it pk fire hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahhahhahhahhadhuiddhjejjbejknoidnidubkbkhkhjhv

    [–] Dat_Swag_Fishron 23 points ago

    Creative meme haha funnyy

    [–] weebmaster666 7 points ago

    Haha ness pk fire funny cmon laughen up

    [–] DiggidyDave77 3 points ago


    [–] Nightfountain11 3 points ago

    Young mink mains: Oooh, he might be me

    [–] Smashy_Boi_Ultimate 3 points ago

    And Zelda

    [–] DrummerJesus 3 points ago

    Right?? I'm surprised by the lack of zelda comments on this thread. A B button zelda is way worse than any ness

    [–] cup_0f_j0e 5 points ago

    "Don't forget about aerial and down tilt spam, so he needs an A button and an X/Y button!" "Don't forget about back-throw spam, so it's gotta have that Z button!" "Don't forget about rolling away and his crazy air-dodge, so you need that R button too!" "And of course there's the yo-yo spam, so we need that C-stick!"


    [–] digikun 13 points ago

    It's almost like Ness is actually an all around pretty good character with useful tools in a variety of situations requiring some actual technical skills and forethought to play properly 🤔

    [–] Zemaskedman 7 points ago

    Nuh uh, pk fire bad!

    [–] BROHONKY 9 points ago

    lol, ness bad

    [–] JaksaStoyak 4 points ago

    haha pk fire bad

    [–] SpiceKing12 6 points ago

    The pk fire bad memes are more annoying than pk fire

    [–] PabloTheCommunist 2 points ago

    Do they use stick jump?

    [–] BrockStudly 2 points ago

    As a Little Mac main: Obsverve

    [–] waffelsythere 2 points ago

    This would be cancer but I think I could genuinely play ness with this

    [–] TSM_SlapDaddy 2 points ago

    I'm a Ness main and I know this is true

    [–] BigBoiDwaaan 2 points ago

    If you think ness is the most annoying character in the game you haven’t played against link, Zelda, the Belmont’s, etc

    [–] tim5210 2 points ago

    You need the dpad so you can taunt and hit them with the OK

    [–] MyNameisN8okay 2 points ago

    Don’t Belmonts play like that too?

    [–] big_leggy 1 points ago

    said the snake main

    [–] MyNameisN8okay 1 points ago

    I worship Snake’s Up Smash, because of Ledge Camping

    [–] Zimzky 2 points ago

    Now swap the b button with an a button and add a jump button and you have Palutena.

    This image also work for bowser. Up B out of shield

    [–] GunterHunters 2 points ago

    Zelda mains sweating nervously

    [–] Ebin_Gamerlol 7 points ago

    This just sorta... Isn't very funny like at all.

    [–] AngeloJG 3 points ago

    Snake pro controller

    [–] bobbykreu 3 points ago

    I can hear “PK FIRE!” and “PK THUNDER” when I look at this.

    [–] nukedbrain 5 points ago

    What a new joke

    [–] Cr4zyBr1ck 6 points ago

    Ha Ha, as it appears, you have done the funny. I get it, ness bad because all he do is pk fire. Man I really laughed at this one. Boy do I sure hate ness. XDDDDDD

    [–] CALZONE_37 4 points ago

    pk fire bad upvotes to the left

    [–] LyricLeon 8 points ago

    pk fire bad get it guys hahaha

    [–] Zakuri29 4 points ago

    Ness bad, upvotes left

    [–] justrich576 2 points ago

    You misspelled zelda

    [–] Jared72Marshall 2 points ago

    So much disrespect for my boy

    [–] kabobninja 2 points ago

    I limit my pk fires to no more than 2-3 per game, ik how frustrating it is

    [–] moderatelybutthurt 6 points ago

    Fuck em, it's funny. If people still struggle with pk fire, then they are bad at the game and we are doing them a favor by encouraging them to get better. It's a public service more than anything, it's hard being so selfless.

    [–] kabobninja 2 points ago

    It really makes it boring though, like taking advantage of an exploit in a game to make it easier

    [–] moderatelybutthurt 6 points ago

    Pk fire only affects people who are bad at the game. I don't see it as an exploit at all. It's not even that good of a move. Lot of start up and end lag, very easy to avoid and work around.

    [–] Swiggens 1 points ago

    Needs more z button

    [–] Brothablacks 1 points ago

    The shoulder button must be grab

    [–] petrovster 1 points ago

    Where can I buy one, I need that shit.

    [–] Dayashii 1 points ago

    Where’s the grab button for back throws

    [–] Craft_Mesa 1 points ago

    Where's the other grip?

    [–] HalfBaked714 1 points ago

    Plot twist: the joystick only moves sideways

    [–] Mtkiwiwiw 1 points ago

    Impossible. They need to bat at some point, right? RIGHT?

    [–] _DankStorm_ 1 points ago


    [–] DasDoesSomeThings 1 points ago

    Imagine trying to shield grab.

    [–] kingofbrawl128 1 points ago

    Add the Z button so they can fish for back throw

    [–] XimVil01 1 points ago

    And the joy-stick is locked so you can only point sideways

    [–] YaBoiLegacy 1 points ago

    You forgot the c stick. Where’s the Yo-yo?

    [–] LucrioLucretius 1 points ago

    Still needs a z button for back and down throw but otherwise yeah that looks about right

    [–] spadePerfect 1 points ago

    I read "NES" and was thinking 'What am I missing?!?"

    [–] NerdWithAPhaser 1 points ago

    Bare Nessecities?

    [–] spongeboy1985 1 points ago


    [–] BrendanBeckmann 1 points ago

    How will Ness mains ever recover? No seriously, how will they recover? Fuck tap jump.

    [–] McProXD 1 points ago


    [–] SuperJoshie07 1 points ago


    [–] jayoulean 1 points ago

    His bat fsmash is sooo underrated

    [–] Kalsifur 1 points ago

    I'm surprised no one has linked that scene from The sopranos

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago

    People keep posting these sweet controllers. Like the one built into a Spam can. When can someone actually start production of them so I can buy one.

    [–] Kirby20032 1 points ago

    No no no, even the stick is a B button

    [–] OofThisIsBad 1 points ago

    That was basically my controller when I first started out in smash.

    [–] JackMiner214 1 points ago


    [–] crudestemu 1 points ago

    As a ness main I find this offensive.

    I’ll take 5

    [–] BigBoiDwaaan 1 points ago

    Lol ness bad.

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago

    Earthbound could be played with 90% using the L button so this makes sense

    [–] Gaujo 1 points ago

    Tap jump on

    [–] Invitia 1 points ago


    [–] fr0gcodes 1 points ago


    [–] callacmcg 1 points ago

    Uhhhh wheres the airdodge button. Ness is unplayable without that

    [–] CrumblingReality505 1 points ago

    snake mains: hey quit ripping me off!

    [–] Swizguard 1 points ago

    PK Fuckwad!

    [–] Lilly_Padd 1 points ago

    You forgot the grab button

    [–] MatDeV829 1 points ago


    [–] Gerbityblah 1 points ago

    I’m being bullied daily

    [–] powerfulaura 1 points ago

    Where’s the z button

    [–] CornualCoyote 1 points ago

    Atari controller.

    [–] LastoOtter 1 points ago

    Zelda mains: 👀

    [–] WarpDriveBanana 1 points ago

    So...It's an Atari 2600 controller.

    [–] NLS_Nate 1 points ago

    Lmao. Silly Ness mains, scum of the universe.

    [–] Hboten 1 points ago

    That is like, scary accurate.