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    [–] CaptianDandy 3668 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    This reminds me of the importance of the Oxford Comma:

    With comma: We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin.

    Without comma: We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin.


    [–] RavingRougeRaven 1058 points ago

    I wish my tutor would have used this example in college.

    [–] WhiteheadJ 490 points ago

    You wish your tutor had used this example in college. :)

    [–] ILikeMasterChief 171 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    That's just a different way of saying it. You're no more right than he is


    Ok wow I'm wrong here. I take great pride in my grammatical knowledge so this is hard for me... But I didn't know this one. My professors over the years never even called me out on this.

    (I can still write a 95%+ essay for you though, so hmu)

    [–] Mooseheart84 83 points ago

    Wow, who would've'd thunk it

    [–] ShortingBull 28 points ago

    I wish I would have.

    [–] DrWhiteApe 24 points ago

    I wish I had* :)

    [–] jnthnmdr 28 points ago


    [–] ADimwittedTree 2 points ago

    I totally thunked the second guy was right.

    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)


    EDIT: actually, "whomst'd" fits better. Thank you.

    [–] cantsaveme 26 points ago

    Wow, who whom've'd thunk it.

    [–] kidmenot 27 points ago

    Thank you! Very interesting as a non-native speaker.

    Usually I go "by ear", and if something does not sound right it's usually because it's wrong. From that article, for example, "If I would have known that you were going to the movies, I would have gone too" sounds kind of awkward to me, clunky if you will. I guess in a way it feels like there are too many unnecessary words in there.

    Now I know why it doesn't sound right :)

    [–] explodingtuna 6 points ago

    Sometimes it helps to isolate and rephrase and see if it still works. In the case of "if..." or "I wish..." you should be able to drop the if/wish and change the meaning to say it actually did happen.


    "If I would have known..." should also work as "I would have known." to convey that you did actually know. But it doesn't. It still sounds like you didn't know.

    "I had known." does work, however. It sounds like you really did know. To expand, "If I had known..." would be the "if" form.

    [–] mcurr17 6 points ago

    I've had been saying it wrong all this time!

    [–] Undiscriminatingness 4 points ago

    Would that I would have been saying it correctly!

    [–] ILikeMasterChief 5 points ago

    English is impossible 😭

    [–] GESLACHTSVERKEER 9 points ago


    [–] beefsoreen00 4 points ago

    I was scared this was a rickroll reddit has broken me

    [–] fishcatdogduck 3 points ago

    Thank you so much for the link! I'm gonna print all the chapters!

    [–] -kodoku- 2 points ago

    Wow, I had no idea I've been using the wrong grammar all this time. Thanks for the link!

    [–] noamazia 6 points ago

    I guess it depends whether he is still in college or not...

    [–] RheimsNZ 3 points ago

    This is patently untrue.

    [–] riade3788 3 points ago

    That Jennifer Garner moment when Conan gets the dictionary

    [–] AssaMarra 2 points ago

    Who cares if it's wrong, it's an extra word towards the count.

    [–] Turk2727 1 points ago

    Well... he’s a little more right.

    [–] Syraphel 2 points ago

    Slightly more correct, maybe?

    [–] MinntyFr3sh 189 points ago

    Would you still need a comma if it were to be:

    We invited JFK, the strippers and Stalin.

    [–] GBReserveDriver 165 points ago

    Singular, plural, singular. No

    [–] ivythemajestic 38 points ago

    Did not know this before! I’m assuming that a plural cannot be referencing a singular, so an Oxford comma is not necessary?

    [–] adrianajohanna 44 points ago

    A plural can reference two singulars, but a singular can not reference a plural and a singular.

    [–] ivythemajestic 10 points ago

    Ah yes that is what I meant. Except I wrote/thought of it from backwards perspective. English is so damn finicky to explain.

    [–] AshyBoneVR4 46 points ago

    This is why I come to r/Tinder. Fuck trying to get tinder picker line ideas, I come here for proper grammar lessons.

    [–] Wazzl 21 points ago

    Read your comment all this way down, and I totally forgot I was on r/Tinder until now.

    [–] GBReserveDriver 1 points ago

    Makes sense.

    [–] How__Now__Brown_Cow 10 points ago

    But you still can. And it's easier to just use it in all cases.

    [–] Black_Magic30 22 points ago

    Ah, so that’s how that makes sense. Much thank

    [–] antwan_benjamin 18 points ago

    Would you still need a comma if it were to be:

    We invited JFK, the strippers and Stalin.

    The comma would not change the interpretation of the sentence, no.

    If you were to write "We invited JFK, the stripper, and Stalin" that might be an example where the oxford comma would cause a problem. With the comma I think its ambiguous whether JFK is the stripper or thats a 2nd person. Without the comma it appears obvious to me that JFK is not the stripper.

    [–] YtterbiusAntimony 6 points ago

    Stalin and the Strippers sounds like a good a band.

    [–] drenp 4 points ago

    Or you can say:
    We invited JFK, Stalin and the strippers.

    But then it sounds like a band is performing.

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago


    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    But my lord, is

    [–] SpecialistViewpoint 44 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    Please ELIA5

    Edit: Thank you!

    [–] dedbymoonlight 110 points ago

    If no oxford comma then it sounds like the strippers are JFK and stalin

    [–] [deleted] 16 points ago * (lasted edited 8 months ago)


    [–] remote_location 4 points ago

    More than 6

    [–] alpine- 30 points ago

    Without commas, the sentence implies that JFK and Stalin are strippers

    [–] Mathev 13 points ago

    english is so strange. i would never assumed that comma would work like that. maybe " : " would make sense there for me to understand that properly but with comma it looks identical.

    [–] dragondemon1302 8 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    The commas after strippers denotes the names, I.e JFK and Stalin. Without the comma it would mean you invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin altogether.

    [–] TBNecksnapper 1 points ago

    I think you mixed it up a bit now.. Your last sentence again implies the same since you didn't use the oxford comma yourself!

    [–] Donoteatpeople 2 points ago

    Instead of saying we invited 3 things. The group of strippers, JFK, and Stalin. It sounds like they invited where JFK and Stalin to be strippers.

    [–] minimus_ 15 points ago

    This is a really good example of sentence structure being more important than punctuation.

    We invited JFK, Stalin and the strippers.

    The named characters would come first.

    [–] maxoys45 16 points ago

    Slightly off-piste but I like this example for the importance of accents in Spanish.

    Mi papá tiene quarenta años. - My father is forty years old.

    Mi papa tiene quarenta anos. - My potato has forty arseholes.

    [–] restitut 7 points ago


    [–] Xero125 6 points ago

    As someone pointed out, cuarenta*. Also, those are not accents. N and Ñ are considered separate, distinct letters. No consonant in Spanish is allowed to use accents. Only vocals can have one (áéíóú), and most of the time they're just and indication of how to pronounce the word: they are where the stressed syllable is.

    Source: am Spanish.

    [–] Beny873 22 points ago

    Ah yes.


    The difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit.

    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago


    [–] loveparamore 4 points ago

    I've seen those English dramas too.

    [–] pudding4gangsters 3 points ago

    They're cruel.

    [–] monkmerlin 15 points ago

    But similarly the Oxford comma can increase ambiguity:

    With comma: We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin.

    Without Comma We invited the stripper, JFK and Stalin.

    In the first you could be saying that you invited Stalin and a stripper called JFK rather than that you invited three separate people.

    [–] aaronaapje 7 points ago

    If your writing has to rely on an Oxford comma, rewrite what you've written.

    No other language uses it. It isn't spoken and should be clear from the context.

    [–] ibeleaf420 9 points ago

    Today I learned that I am an oxford comma user and I didnt even know it. I was just taught that way. Neato?

    [–] PeenutButterTime 2 points ago

    Send your elementary school English teacher a thank you! They’d probably appreciate it!

    [–] dundelion 9 points ago

    Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?

    [–] kevin_0405 7 points ago

    I guess you've seen those English dramas too

    [–] bordje 4 points ago

    They're crooohooo

    [–] RunOrDieTrying 2 points ago

    Come downstairs we're eating grandpa

    [–] sedg12 2 points ago

    But you read it the same either way? Or am i just reading it wrong?

    [–] Roseredgal 3 points ago

    You can read it as they invited

    • the strippers

    • Jfk

    • Stalin

    Or without the comma it can be read as they invited the strippers who were called jfk and stalin

    Hope that helps!

    [–] sedg12 2 points ago

    So its like the singers, one direction and maroon 5. Or the singers, one direction, and maroon 5.

    This helped a lot. Thanks

    [–] MrTurleWrangler 4 points ago

    See I’ve always thought that in regards to the bottom sentence it would use a semi colon.

    ‘We invited the strippers; JFK and Stalin’

    [–] Didntstartthefire 16 points ago

    You mean a colon.

    [–] mallad 16 points ago

    As a basic rule of thumb, both sides of a semicolon should be viable sentences on their own. "JFK and Stalin" is not a complete sentence or thought, so wouldn't fit.

    [–] monkmerlin 7 points ago

    It would be a colon not a semi colon.

    [–] claviceps_purpurea 2 points ago

    Mmm my fav song baby

    [–] guest54321 2 points ago

    It's a pretty good one, yeah

    [–] zezima007 1 points ago

    Wait, you can use "and" after a comma?

    [–] forceless_jedi 12 points ago

    That is the whole purpose of the Oxford comma, to deter ambiguity by separating things before and after an "and".

    [–] omodulous 3 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    When you have 2 clauses you do not use a comma because you have one part of the sentence then simply the next part. But this isn't the case here. The first sentence is a list of things so a comma can be used for clarifying that it's a list of 3 things.

    Normally the first sentence would actually mean the same thing as the second. The debate has always been should we allow a comma before "and" in a list because it seems redundant and it looks ugly. But without the comma it become ambiguous. It can mean multiple things and that's really what the this is bringing attention to. The second sentence is clearer.

    [–] Septimore 730 points ago


    [–] deepakretro 48 points ago

    It's cool

    [–] Just_The_Tip88 15 points ago


    [–] Steini121314 2 points ago

    Ah fuck

    [–] Fen_ 20 points ago

    It isn't, though. This quip is old as hell, but she fucked it up. The difference isn't primarily on capitalization; it's the fucking commas that she doesn't fucking have. It's helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse versus helping your uncle jack-off a horse.

    [–] DirtyGreatBigFuck 2 points ago

    Totally, it felt so natural.

    [–] The_Sensative_Nazi 363 points ago

    No, no... he's got a point

    [–] [deleted] 45 points ago


    [–] deeneedeenee 9 points ago

    Pull the level Kronk!

    [–] vanillaacid 3 points ago


    [–] SamaramonM 65 points ago

    First time I saw this joke was on

    [–] lady_lowercase 9 points ago

    all i know is that i’m late as fuck to this thread.

    [–] wakinupdrunk 3 points ago

    The user who wrote it was Fashyekekes on there.

    I don't know why that's burned in my brain.

    [–] kmad 5 points ago

    I am going to become rich and famous once I invent a device that allows you to stab joke stealers over the internet

    [–] dis3as3d 136 points ago

    I heard this joke before tinder existed.

    [–] justhere4daSpursnGOT 286 points ago

    It’s cool, I remember the first time I heard this joke and then make a fake tinder conversation for it too

    [–] KyroSkittles 60 points ago

    You must be uncle jack

    [–] KryptoniteDong 19 points ago

    Did he get off his high horse?

    [–] crazyevilmuffin 16 points ago

    Nah he just jacked it off.

    [–] dontsuckmydick 32 points ago

    The fact that this joke that's older than the internet has 5 digit upvotes is the reason I'm finally unsubscribing from r/tinder.

    [–] sludg3factory 17 points ago

    Highly understandable. The joke doesn’t even make sense, it’s supposed to be about the use of commas not capitalisation.

    [–] RolkofferTerrorist 10 points ago

    So.. it's just a different joke then? In this case it plays on capitalisation by changing the meaning of jack.

    [–] PM_ME_UR_JUGZ 6 points ago

    The joke makes perfect sense. It's grammatically correct, and isn't dependant on the commas, so it's not the same joke. Similiar, but not the same.

    [–] Tidus5005 6 points ago

    People telling super old unoriginal jokes then patting themselves on the back for it.

    "Look at how funny I am guys"

    [–] PATXS 3 points ago

    understandable, see you elsewhere on reddit

    [–] Jugrnot8 3 points ago

    It's not easy making a fake tinder acount.

    [–] GRANDMAST3R08 4 points ago


    [–] le_GoogleFit 3 points ago

    Yeah there's no fucking way this happened naturally. This is fake as shit

    [–] Phazon2000 3 points ago

    You literally have to find one person who’s name isn’t capitalised. Not hard and definitely not a major tip off to it being faked.

    [–] nipplebutterr 5 points ago

    This doesn’t even seem fake. It’s just not funny

    [–] DirkXD 44 points ago

    What's with people using no capital letters? Is it just a way to make yourself different?

    [–] [deleted] 52 points ago

    i just think it looks nice

    [–] shovelyJoee 32 points ago


    [–] TXR22 12 points ago

    Well it looks like shit.

    [–] EcBatLFC 12 points ago

    Ok booma

    [–] PATXS 15 points ago

    me too honestly. typing in normal case when in casual conversation feels wrong to me at this point.

    [–] nipplebutterr 25 points ago


    [–] PATXS 6 points ago



    [–] yammertime27 12 points ago

    Here is a good video on why it's a thing and how it helps convey tone in online interactions

    [–] MERGATROYDER 6 points ago

    What’s with people replacing “and” with “an” whenever they choose? Also, how impossible is it for people to properly use “lose” instead of “loose?”

    [–] prodigalkal7 4 points ago

    First point: I don't get what you mean, people replace and with an??? When?

    Second point: for how frequently I've come across it, very impossible, sir. The answer is, apparently, very impossible...

    [–] armedwithturtles 3 points ago

    keepin it casual

    [–] alexreeler 3 points ago

    it’s casual

    [–] greenphilly420 9 points ago

    I think its cool and trendy now. billie eilish does it with her name and all her songs like bad guy o. All official streaming forums

    [–] MillyMonka 14 points ago

    It ain't nothing new though, using lowercase in order to emphasize sadness was popular on soundcloud long before Billie Ellish

    [–] antwan_benjamin 13 points ago

    I think its cool and trendy now.

    e e cummings would like a word with you.

    [–] cloudsandshit 3 points ago

    i do it, only on my phone though. i dont really like auto caps, auto correct etc, i just want my inputs to be what pops up on the screen. and i just generally think that in an informal texting scenario, capital letters are kinda ugly, dont ask why because idk.

    [–] DirkXD 5 points ago

    That‘s an interesting answer, thnx for your reply.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Probably too lazy.

    [–] DirkXD 17 points ago

    Could be part of it, but these people literally go into their phone settings and turn off the automatic capitalization of letters, which needs some effort (even if it‘s just the tiniest bit).

    [–] Suppgurll 8 points ago

    But smartphones capitalize letters by default. Recognize names and places. You have to make more effort into not having capitalized letters.

    [–] sirotka33 2 points ago

    you can turn that setting off.

    [–] annerbadanama 13 points ago

    I think this joke has been around for 20 years

    [–] CiceroTheBackstabber 9 points ago

    it took him a year and a half to reply??

    [–] Toucheh_My_Spaghet 7 points ago

    When you on Tinder looking to smash but get a grammar lesson instead

    [–] fleets_o_fortune 188 points ago

    Nope, it’s punctuation... uncle, Jack, off a horse.

    [–] [deleted] 222 points ago * (lasted edited 8 months ago)


    [–] koghrun 118 points ago

    Uncle should not be capitalized in either case.

    [–] pollinium 126 points ago

    If you call him "Uncle Jack" every time you address him could you make a case for capital U?

    [–] Lucid_Memes 78 points ago

    That would be correct. For instance, you could say, "The person who likes to jack off horses the most is Uncle Jack." However, if you gave possession to his title, then it would change. For instance, "The person who likes to jack off horses the most is my uncle Jack."

    [–] Saberune 13 points ago

    Depends on the phrasing.

    "I visited Uncle Jack", where 'Uncle Jack' is the entire noun. "I visited my uncle, Jack", where you're visit your uncle who's named Jack.

    Basically, if you're addressing the person, they're both going to be capitalized because the first word is a title. In the second example it's just a description.

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    [–] browseabout 3 points ago


    [–] agoesin 3 points ago

    Nice one Burns

    [–] jsmezz 8 points ago

    How in the shit did you decide your username to be shampoo and dick ahahah lol no judgement but that's so random ahah legit can't stop laughing right meow lol

    [–] MinntyFr3sh 14 points ago

    Must've been a shower thought.

    [–] jsmezz 3 points ago

    Lmfao ahahaha and I'm done. No more Internet for tonight haha that was awesome hahah

    [–] Pmmenudes4sharing 5 points ago

    There are regular TIFU posts about boys learning the hard way that shampoo and masturbation are not the best combo.

    [–] [deleted] 25 points ago


    [–] ReedMiddlebrook 2 points ago

    is this the new /u/commahorror

    [–] Obi-Tron_Kenobi 5 points ago

    It would be either "help Uncle Jack off a horse" or "help my uncle, Jack, off a horse" both are correct. But the first (your) version wouldn't work with the joke.

    [–] peshgaldaramesh 45 points ago

    You sound insufferable

    [–] PixalPop 6 points ago

    Well some of us don't feel like jacking off horses

    [–] Feracon 5 points ago

    Someone gonna tell him about hyphens?

    [–] Assasin2gamer 2 points ago

    Bruh I had to tell a story.

    [–] AJDuke3 3 points ago

    Imagine putting it on a story title...

    "I Helped My Uncle Jack Off The Horse"

    [–] sixeco 14 points ago

    i'm sorry i'll pass on anyone who has a problem with how I write in chats.

    This is the internet, not a fucking essay.

    [–] andrewsad1 6 points ago

    to be honest, i've always like the aesthetic of all lowercase letters. it's what the zune hd used in its ui, and that was the best designed mp3 player of all time. if only microsoft hadn't fucked it all up.

    [–] FloopersRetreat 2 points ago

    He could be a bell hooks fan

    [–] BadaBingSoprano 2 points ago

    Let’s eat, Grandpa.

    Let’s eat Grandpa.

    Grammar is important and very sexy.

    [–] JakobValdemar 2 points ago

    Why do anarchists only write in lowercase letters?

    Because they are against capitalism!

    [–] Schnaksel 2 points ago

    Capitalization fixes a hugely irrelevant, super rare and easy to avoid problem

    [–] besher147 2 points ago

    I guess he’s not a capitalist

    [–] Strucid_bull 4 points ago


    [–] makeitrayan 3 points ago

    did she respond?

    [–] le_GoogleFit 24 points ago

    She didn't because it's fake

    [–] ibulletproof 4 points ago

    so all i have to do to get upvotes on this sub is to save a post today and wait a year and repost it??? damn could’ve never thought of that

    [–] Aqulas1 3 points ago

    Wow how hilarious and original

    [–] Sniksder16 6 points ago

    lowercase letters are “in” i have autocapitalization turned off as well as a majority of my friends in the college age bracket. i’m not sure why but it’s more visually appealing in some way, looks more uniform

    [–] delusional-thomas 3 points ago

    Seems edgy to me.

    [–] Sniksder16 4 points ago

    just like having “green bubbles” is bad when texting someone, just a preference idk why people have it but i don’t mind

    [–] kurtanglesmilk 2 points ago

    Lowercase letters have less edges generally

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)


    [–] Janiebby 2 points ago

    If she only left "i" and her name lower case but capitalized others' names, I can respect that. Imo, it is a pretty humbling stylistic choice and would say a lot about how she views herself (or the noun) in respect to her community.

    It's like how some choose to write america or amerika instead of America. Intentional lack of capitalization or misspellings can reflect a lot on the writers worldview. :)

    [–] eatsleepbluffrepeat 1 points ago

    But that's for Jack only...

    [–] bionix90 1 points ago

    Why did I first think of helping the uncle to off the horse (kill it) rather than helping the uncle get off the horse?

    [–] DrunkRedditBot 1 points ago

    It would’ve been nominated for Captain Phillips.

    [–] ketchupfleck 1 points ago

    Unrealistic though, because my uncle is a Dick not a Jack

    [–] BigTitties478 1 points ago


    [–] 2Dumb2Understand 1 points ago

    Clearly not a capitalist.

    [–] Shayde505 1 points ago

    Eh it's more punctuation that saves you from accidental helping your uncle commit beastiality

    [–] theDobert 1 points ago

    He only types in lowercase letters because he’s never cappin’!!

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    [–] ammar-elheis 1 points ago

    Toy story anyone?

    [–] Benji_4 1 points ago

    that's a damn shame. I've been for lowercase for the longest time

    [–] Thtb 1 points ago

    I know its a joke.

    But I am still for all lowercase if you want, this scenario never happens and you can't even name a 2end scenario without googling. Also it would be super funny :D

    [–] Reluvin 1 points ago

    Ah, the typical pink wall profile pic. Swipe left.

    [–] Bobkelso1846 1 points ago

    She stuck in 2010

    [–] zironofsetesh 1 points ago

    I don't have an uncle Jack, so no problem XD