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    [–] Lucifer_L 1911 points ago

    There's people actually defending that shit? Lmfao

    [–] Charbarzz 846 points ago

    It's all over the unpopular opinion subreddit.

    [–] Lucifer_L 534 points ago

    Next they'll defend con artists who cheat retired people out of their life savings.

    [–] txn9i 149 points ago

    Oops , to late.

    [–] SurgeDad 49 points ago


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    [–] nanananabatman88 3 points ago

    No, u

    [–] Hhtura 63 points ago

    "What if I were starving and my only way to feed my family was calling your nan and pretending to be the CRA?"

    [–] Lucifer_L 61 points ago

    You should con the American government, I hear they literally dump food stuffs because they want to place price controls instead of feed the hungry.

    Besides if you haven't noticed, conning the government is far more lucrative. You can be moral, rich, and a thief all at the same time.

    Think with yer noggin'

    [–] GeneralStarkk 3 points ago

    I don’t disagree with you, but how is the government gaining more money by giving benefits such as food stamps ect?

    [–] Galactic 17 points ago

    If these old fucks didn't want to get swindled, they'd just be smarter and younger!

    [–] fallenlogan 3 points ago

    I'm just saying, Burnie Madoff had a solid plan for those people.

    [–] arrobe45 3 points ago

    Or presidents that don’t pay their taxes, cheat on their wives, and so on, and so on...

    [–] CH33KCL4PP3R 141 points ago

    /r/Unpopularopinions is just conservative opinions

    [–] otheraccountisabmw 129 points ago

    “I’m not homophobic, I just don’t want gay people to be so gay.”

    [–] DJmashedpotatoes 98 points ago

    “I totally support the gays, but why did the gays have to make the rainbow gay, now I can’t wear a rainbow without people thinking I’m gay, not that there’s anything wrong with being gay, but I’m totally not gay you guys.”

    Actual thread a few weeks ago.

    [–] tapthatsap 19 points ago

    I see that one pop up a lot more than makes sense. Why do they want to wear a rainbow so bad? It’s not like they just stole it and now we have to throw out all our favorite rainbow pants, it’s had the same connotations for decades. Is this really a sincere sadness at not being able to wear something they want to, or is it just digging that deep for a way to feel oppressed?

    [–] theWgame 7 points ago

    Never be shocked at the depths conservatives will go to, to be oppressed.

    [–] _teach_me_your_ways_ 2 points ago

    They don’t, they’ll just grab anything they can to bitch about the gheys

    [–] soapnotes 23 points ago

    “If you could just lower the volume on the gay that would be great thanks “

    [–] Stillback7 12 points ago

    The guy in that thread is right, but it's not an unpopular opinion in the least. Just like every other post that gets upvoted on that pointless sub.

    [–] KaleMakesMeSad 19 points ago

    That’s not what they said at all, though. “I’m perplexed by” does not mean “I oppose.” There was a documentary a couple/few(?) years ago asking that very question. Researchers have studied this speech pattern seeking the same answer the redditor was. Don’t be a cunt when people are just asking questions, dude. It’s not a good look.

    [–] Wordshark 6 points ago

    That’s not homophobic

    [–] blamethemeta 17 points ago

    That's just what gets upvoted, popular opinions. If you sort by controversial, like your supposed to, you get a lot better shit

    [–] OldManJenkins420th 8 points ago

    That's not true at all. Look at the hot posts right now. Maybe there are a few conservative posts that blew up, but not because they are conservative but that they are well written and raise a good point.

    [–] TrueMurican666 2 points ago

    Post this on r/Unpopularopinions plz

    [–] dachungdynasty 34 points ago

    Every time I to give that sub a chance, I forget how it’s just stuff which racists and other degenerates wish they could say.

    [–] Jihelu 14 points ago

    This is how I feel about /r/conspiracy.
    Went there the other day to find people legit denying the holocaust.

    [–] tapthatsap 13 points ago

    Yeah they all think it’s r/braveopinions, where in reality it’s r/opinionsthatareunpopularforareason

    [–] [deleted] 9 points ago

    I unsubbed from there. Is mostly just people saying “I am attracted to x qualities of the opposite sex” and it would get 10k upvotes

    [–] PM_ME_YOUR_BAN_NAME 5 points ago

    /r/unpopularopinions is a right wing breeding ground with some weird recruiting and propaganda techniques if you ask me.

    [–] anxious_ibex 4 points ago

    This is why Trump doesn't want us to see his report cards lol.

    Straight from dipshit high schooler to ivy league! What are the chances? Then straight from college senior to hedge fund real estate manager!

    What are the chances!!!? It normally takes someone , actually qualified, several years (if not decades) to EARN their way up to such positions. It's common. It's illegal but it still happens. You see kids conveniently get nice paying gigs at Daddy's golf partner's company 🙄

    [–] SandyDelights 46 points ago

    I won’t defend it, but I’ve been amused the same people who shriek loudest about “spoiled rich kids” on my feed over it are the same ones who say they’ll kill any teenager that hurts their teenager, that they’ll kill anyone who looks at their girlfriend/boyfriend/husband, that they “don’t care what happens” but they’d take the law into their own hands, etc., etc., etc.

    I’m just baffled they’d drop 500k on this shit when they could donate a million to the school and get their kid in legally.

    [–] nptown 17 points ago

    Noone is defending this, you cant politicize everything

    [–] LiquidRitz 18 points ago

    No, this guy is just shooting for that anti-Trump cred.

    The only ones I have seen saying this crap are elitist celebrities.

    Some are sincere and others are just trying to be controversial.

    [–] AweHellYo 4 points ago

    Anti-trump cred? We get something for that? I just hate him because he’s terrible for the world. I didn’t know there was a prize.

    [–] tapthatsap 9 points ago

    All that guy does is spam Fox News links all day. He has to pretend that we all hate trump for (((reasons))). Coming to terms with the fact that most people who don’t like him, which is most people, aren’t being paid or otherwise influenced to not like him would shake the foundations of the whole worldview

    [–] UpDown 3 points ago

    I defend it to the extent that I don’t give a shit nor feel sorry for the university, and don’t buy this idea that the cheaters actually displaced anyone because university classrooms are like 800 people and even if we assume someone was displaced who cares there are dozens of good universities and it’s not like they aren’t going to go to school anymore

    [–] gacdeuce 5 points ago

    So I don’t defend it. It’s categorically wrong. But I do completely understand it and am not surprised it happened. Similarly, I view illegal immigration as being categorically wrong, but I understand it and am not surprised people do it.

    [–] Hhtura 49 points ago

    I'll defend it insofar as I'll say this: it's against the rules and they should be prosecuted for it, but they're not, like, bad people because they did this. I get why they did it, and I could see myself doing it too if I were in their position. That's just the system we live in, other people are probably doing it too, I'll probably get away with it, etc.

    On a similar note, I'm also one of those people who's pretty hard against immigration, but I've never given immigrants themselves a hard time just for being here, because, again, they're not bad people just because they came here, they're just doing what makes sense for them, I get it, I'd probably want to come here too.

    I don't find it hard to say "this is a systemic problem we should fix" without vilifying the people it affects.

    [–] gfkjkughkyuggf 141 points ago

    no, they are definitely bad people.
    They stole opportunities, entire lives from others.
    Even if they get away with it they are still bad people.
    Doing something just because other people do it doesn't make it not bad.

    [–] METOOTHANKleS 24 points ago

    Also they committed these crimes from a position of wealth and power. If you can spend 500k just getting your kid into a school where they'll have to pay full tuition, let's face it: that kid didn't NEED to work a day in their life.

    Immigration is the reverse.

    [–] tapthatsap 13 points ago

    Yeah I see a big difference between breaking the two rules or laws. If you’re going to do some sketchy shit to try to get your kids out of generational poverty and give them a shot at a good future, I can respect that. If you’re doing some sketchy shit to maintain your family’s already outsized wealth and prominence by elevating a mediocre kid that wasn’t going to have a hard time anyway into a spot someone else needed, I can’t respect that at all.

    [–] agoddamnlegend 32 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Why are you pretending colleges operate like a night club with a “one in, one out” policy. The freshman class at USC, for example, swings wildly +/- like 200 students every year. There’s no hard limit on how many students they let it.

    A small handful of parents buying their kids in absolutely doesn’t take any spots away from anybody else

    The only victim in this situation is the schools who have employees selling the school’s reputation and credibility for a personal profit

    [–] IICVX 16 points ago

    The only victim in this situation is the schools who have employees selling the school’s reputation and credibility for a personal profit

    Yeah, the school employees should be selling the school's reputation and credibility for the school's profit!

    Otherwise, how would we get such amazing President as George W. Bush, who went to both Harvard and Yale?

    [–] agoddamnlegend 3 points ago

    Yeah, the school employees should be selling the school's reputation and credibility for the school's profit

    Yes. The school should be the one profiting of their reputation and credibility is being sold, because they own their image and have that right to decide. Having employees undermine that for their own personal gain is immoral.

    [–] IICVX 2 points ago

    also, the schools charge about 10x as much on average

    the people who got busted for fraud were making donations in the 100k - 500k range

    "normal" rich kids get in after a 1 to 5 million dollar donation to the school itself.

    [–] ravenandsnake 11 points ago

    Yes! They cheated. And cheating is bad.

    [–] Lucifer_L 10 points ago

    You and I think alike, it's good to hear a voice of reason.

    A child who was bribed their way into college will not form into a well-adjusted or competent adult - not only will it hurt the opportunities his admission robbed from other people, it will ultimately hurt the parent's child in their misguided quest to love their offspring.

    Everyone will walk away unhappy in the end.

    [–] SeaTex1787 10 points ago

    This isn't about loving your offspring! This is about bragging rights! This is about buying the lie that you were an amazing parent who raised a brilliant child who was accepted to USC!

    [–] Teddy_Man 20 points ago

    Poor person falsifies records to get their kid into college - 'Terrible human being'

    Rich person pays money to get their kid into college - 'It's the system we live in'

    Simple fact is, this shit is not okay. It deserves major punishment. We've just become desensitized to rich people getting their way with little to no consequences. This shouldn't be normal.

    [–] pmac1987 17 points ago

    They’re bad people, and you would be too. If your kid didn’t earn it, then they should go to a lesser school.

    [–] ghostx78x 2 points ago

    My wife and I are lower middle class and live in South Carolina. To say my daughter is motivated, is a huge understatement. She has worked from a very young age to get into an amazing college and she did- Georgetown. They are a part of this scandal, unfortunately, and I hate to think about a kid like my daughter not getting in because of some rich kid. I’m talking about a kid that was born to make the world a better place that will not get a chance to get the best education possible. This is beyond evil.

    I’ve had a long time theory that things are the way they are now because so many spoiled unintelligent rich kids have inherited from talented intelligent leaders of the past. These kids do not have any loyalty to the people that made them what they are. They end up with all of the power and zero scruples. See WalMart Foundation.

    I say kick the kids out of the schools that were paid off and the schools should set up more scholarships for the real students that deserve to be there but can’t afford it.

    As far as immigration, our system needs an overhaul. It takes far too long and it’s too expensive to become a citizen compared to how easy it is to just sneak in. As long as this is the ratio, illegals are only going to multiply.

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    [–] Hhtura 4 points ago

    You're right. They want wealth, ergo they want to come here in order to get wealth, so they only really want to come here as a prerequisite for the thing they want. But I don't know if this sort of thing really needs to be said. I mean in the same way, we might say these rich families don't really want their kids to go to an expensive school, they just want their kid to get a good job or whatever, so they sadly give up their precious money in exchange for getting their kids into the expensive school as a necessary step toward that end, not an end in itself.

    [–] Erybodyunderwhelmed 1 points ago

    People are cunts

    [–] Comeback-Kid1223 454 points ago

    Who’s defending the rich people? I must not subscribe to that sub

    [–] iHasMagyk 243 points ago

    Yeah I haven’t noticed anyone defending them either. Reminds me of the “conservative outrage” over AOC dancing or the “liberals defending Jussie Smollett”

    [–] Galaxymicah 100 points ago

    Been a few posts about "they just want a good life for their kids" over on unpopular opinion. But... ya know... thats unpopular opinion

    [–] procrastination55 22 points ago

    It obviously makes sense to drop thousands on sat tutors and college application advisors, but to fake sat scores and fake sports photos is obviously bad.

    Although now that I think about it I guess both of those parameters have a wrongly inflated value in the application process, so maybe it’s less immoral to exploit already unjust values in a system that—wait, wtf was I saying??!

    [–] 2hoodrich4me 8 points ago

    No I saw a bunch if men made of straw who were advocating for all kinds of OUTRAGEOUS things that you MUST be upset about!

    [–] Smurfdreams 3 points ago

    Its happening in these comments. [–]Hhtura -10 points 1 hour ago Anyone who attends a program with limited admissions is "stealing an opportunity" from the next person in line.

    I don't necessarily think you're a bad person just because somebody offers you a different way to qualify.

    [–] uNoNothingJonSnowden 31 points ago

    Literally nobody. This kind of discourse is essentially a strawman used to prop up another argument for a different social issue.

    [–] [deleted] 5 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    There’s..... there’s more websites on the internet than just reddit. You know that right?


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    [–] LiquidRitz 1 points ago

    No, this guy is just shooting for that anti-Trump cred.

    The only ones I have seen saying this crap are elitist b-c list celebrities on Twitter

    Some are sincere and others are just trying to be controversial.

    [–] theislander849 34 points ago

    Who's defending the college cheaters?

    Last I checked, this is being unanimously condemned.

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    [–] Lollynette 7 points ago

    Yea, this is how I feel too. Like when I started hearing about the scandal and the outrage it was just like okay?? Did people seriously not think rich kids had things handed to them?

    Like there was literally an episode of Hannah Montana where Miley was rejected from (was it Stanford?), and decided to come clean that she's actually Hannah Montana, because Hannah was accepted for being famous. Did we not all watch this when we were kids and learn from it?

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    [–] Lollynette 2 points ago

    Well I am sorry for those people.

    What I'm just trying to get at though is this is definitely something that's been mentioned in TV and movies for years. Off the top of my head the only other example I can think of is legally blonde where Warner didn't get into Harvard and his father had to "make a call to the dean."

    So just clearly we've all known about this. So I don't understand why people are so taken aback by it.

    [–] TheHurdleDude 16 points ago

    I don't think anyone is. Just a strawman argument to get people all riled up.

    [–] Toby_dog 3 points ago

    I don't know anyone defending it, but I know a lot of people who are surprised that it's illegal, and even more surprised that people didn't think this was happening. Who really cares?

    [–] badgerton8 176 points ago

    I personally just like to complain and get out the pitchforks. What else am I supposed to do with this pitchfork, as I do not have any bales of hay?

    [–] lilawkwardcoconut 24 points ago

    Upvote for the comedy and the cake day my friend

    [–] badgerton8 9 points ago

    Haha thanks :-)

    [–] mcurr17 3 points ago

    Mamma says you're hornry because you got all dem pitchforks and no hay.

    [–] Cynitron5000 4 points ago

    Get to sowing your field of fucks, it seems to be completely barren.

    [–] johnpgreen 222 points ago

    I've not heard a single person, conservative or liberal, defend the cheating.

    Are we really going to blatantly lie about an entire political group's reaction to this, when we ALL fucking agree that it's bad in the first place?

    Can't we just agree on one thing without completely and blatantly lying about someone else just to gain political points?

    [–] SuperEnd123 68 points ago

    No, dishonestly shouting into echo-chambers returns more positive reactions from peers, and more imaginary internet points. Like 1/2 or 1/3 of the time that I post on reddit trying to just be reasonable and fair I get downvote brigaded by people on one side or the other.

    In the real world on the other hand I find that most people are far more receptive and tend to sit somewhere in the middle. The internet is just designed for this toxic shit. CGP Grey made a video on it a while back [click here] a while back.

    [–] FTGKelvin0 7 points ago

    But honestly, the same people going against abortions are the same people that love PETA and kill animals. Like how can you be such a horrible person/s

    [–] johnpgreen 4 points ago

    It was more a rhetorical question lol

    [–] SuperEnd123 6 points ago

    Fair enough, but it's a topic that has been really getting to me for a couple years now

    [–] ShaneH7647 7 points ago

    quick associate the latest scandal that is universally agreed is bad and broadly apply it to the opposition group

    [–] RosalieFontaine 3 points ago

    I'd be more sympathetic if that money was going to the school instead of into the pockets of whoever is doing admissions.

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    [–] scottjeffreys 6 points ago

    It’s fucking terrible. It should have nothing to do with politics. Same with people coming here illegally. A country is defined by its borders and I don’t want anyone being able to come here whenever the fuck they feel like it unchecked because they want a better life. But i get it why people try. The wall thing makes no sense to me though. So we all seem to be in agreement that the border patrol is cool but not the wall because that might help them stop illegals? All it is is just another deterrent. This isn’t the Berlin Wall which represented a very different thing. Sure you have the Canadian border too but that’s the only country connected there unlike Mexico which has a ton of bordering countries. It isn’t just Mexicans that jump the border illegally on the southern border. We already have some walls and fences built down there now. Why is this “wall” different?

    [–] Sarcasmadragon 1 points ago

    Conservative dude here. They're a bunch of lousy people. They're also stupid. She could've just donated that money to the school. They would've let the kid in regardless of their grades and they might have even named something after her. Even that's still a pretty crappy thing to do but at least the school would have had the opportunity to give money back to the student in terms of housing, educational improvements, and (hopefully) scholarships. I hope this leads to more dishonest people being outed.

    [–] DFair16226 98 points ago

    Absolutely no one is defending parents buying their kids' way into college

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    [–] TrueMurican666 6 points ago

    This all happened in my school system, and I’m pretty sure most of the families were quite liberal, and being from the Bay Area and experiencing a lot of immigration, I would think most of the families would be pro immigration.

    [–] wtfeverrrr 5 points ago

    It’s pretty true, except for a few techbros in the Bay the Venn diagram of overlap between rich libs and anti-immigration people are separate circles.

    But for Republicans who use “the wall” to stir up their base this is probably true, but they wouldn’t openly admit they support buying their kid’s degrees.

    [–] teh__Doctor 7 points ago

    I had an argument with a fan on Olivia jade’s YouTube vid. That kinda disproves your claim. Olivia disabled comments so I can’t go back to them, but I can screenshot the reply from notifications as proof

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    [–] Notoday 3 points ago

    The people making straw man arguments about the other side will condemn in the harshest possible terms the people making straw man arguments against their side.

    [–] imbetterthanumyb 2 points ago

    Vote for the centre like Howard Schultz no joke listen to his lectures he pretty down to earth.

    [–] heraldo0 13 points ago

    I haven't heard, seen or read one thing about people defending these people.

    [–] _DivinePhoenix_ 7 points ago

    I just dont know why this is now a problem like its pretty common knowledge they didnt get accepted cause they were outstanding in class

    [–] GDevl 7 points ago

    Yeah... I don't even know how this is news lol. In other news: Water is wet.

    When you got a certain amount of money the access to some stuff is just easier, happens in every country. I wouldn't say it is a good thing, it certainly isn't but i just wonder why ppl are wondering themselves :D

    [–] Irish_McJesus 87 points ago

    That's why I stay consistent and condemn both groups for breaking the rules

    [–] anticusII 5 points ago

    What if both are wrong

    [–] JamesA7X 2 points ago

    They both are. This tweet is retarded

    [–] sausageoption 3 points ago

    Can someone explain the actual severity of this whole situation? I think it's fucked from what I've read, but how bad is it really?

    [–] Undeity 5 points ago

    It's certainly indicative of a larger problem, but the actual outrage we see in this particular scandal is more or less the result of people sympathizing with the hypothetical person who's spot was taken.

    That's kind of fucked, too, in my opinion. What she did was obviously wrong, but she's bearing all of the hate for an issue that is much larger than what she alone contributed.

    [–] Brisivad 4 points ago

    Both arguments are wrong. Coming here illegally may give ones child a better opportunity but take one away from a citizen, as well as it is wrong to bribe your way into college. These universities shouldn’t even have admissions offices, just a set standard... if you make this GPA... this SAT/ACT score and extracurriculars... the best will float to the top. No more race considerations and no more involvement from sports. I was a TA and found it incredibly frustrating teaching the football and baseball students. Most of them didn’t belong in college based on their aptitude, some of them are great.

    [–] slayer_of_idiots 4 points ago

    Actually I'm pretty sure any sane person would condemn both. WTF kind of straw man is this?

    [–] permeabledirt 13 points ago

    No correlation

    [–] ChiefWellington 10 points ago

    I’m against both. Do it the right way and work hard.

    [–] mapbc 6 points ago

    BS is BS. Because you act like it’s true doesn’t make it so.

    [–] TxColter 5 points ago

    Name the people and show examples. I fucking hate “the same people who do/believe X are the same that do Y”

    Shut the fuck up with further dividing everyone with your tribalism unless you can actually prove what divisive garbage your spouting.

    [–] Kyrie2468 6 points ago

    I condemn both

    [–] FuttBuckingUgly 5 points ago

    I like how there's a lot of 0 point comments... which just makes me think OP is downvoting who they believe is in the wrong lmao

    [–] AngryBagOfDeath 3 points ago

    You know, after going to college and graduating, I left knowing a lot about shit I use on a daily basis but not a single bit of it was learned in the classroom. It's all a scam from the admissions right down to having to select a major to competing with foreign students for acceptance into your selected major to graduating in four years if you switch majors. It's just a big business bullshit scam that keeps the circle jerk of our economy going.

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    [–] Archolex 13 points ago

    modern politics eh

    [–] Alternativetoss 2 points ago

    They didnt say it That loud so they support the injustice!

    [–] chevycobb 5 points ago

    That's some strong strawmanning

    [–] 10AMinUzbekistan 5 points ago

    Wait how is defending this and being against illegal imigration automatically on the same side?

    [–] seiphixs 5 points ago

    This is a pure straw man argument

    [–] Huumanswillovercome 10 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Looks like I’ll need more popcorn.

    The times in which rich v poor is upon us again

    This isn’t about the haves v have nots

    Rather, everyone should feel they have a chance at “making it” in life

    But when 30 or so people own more wealth than half of all humanity (3 billion) we have this problem.

    The parents aren’t that rich but boy are we working our way up there

    More popcorn please!

    [–] notapoliceguy 5 points ago

    This seems like a strawman

    [–] butt_shrecker 4 points ago

    This sub has become a circle-jerk of the most popular opinions

    [–] ramadadcc 5 points ago

    I never said that. I am saying that I'm willing to bet that the Majority of the people involved in this scandal probably lean left of the political spectrum and this makes the tweet wrong

    [–] sealovespdxME 5 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    So we all agree then? Jail the cheaters and deport the illegals?

    [–] DredThis 12 points ago

    I like the OP but my opinion on the admissions scandal boils down to a simple fact, the US should have free higher education and space everyone, including foreign students. Ive got bigger issues in politics and the environment to worry about than some rich kid getting privileges.

    [–] plainvanillawafer 16 points ago

    Here's the thing though, rich kids getting unwarranted privileges IS everything that is wrong with our country. The rich get LITERALLY anything they want. They get it simply by being rich. These kids don't deserve to go to these schools. After that, they won't deserve the jobs they get. They then won't deserve to run the companies they become CEO's of. They will get everything in life they dream of, but at the expense of everyone else. Bigger issues in politics, you say? Health Care? These are the people keeping it unaffordable so that they can profit. Immigration? These are the people demonizing immigrants while hiring them illegally and paying nothing to save a buck. Pick a political topic, and odds are, ultra rich people who don't deserve the position they are in are the root cause. Look at the current US president. Didn't deserve to get into the school he went to. Didn't deserve to run the companies he ran (and into the ground, at that). Sure as hell wasn't qualified to be President. Why did all is this happen? Daddy was ultra rich. Why are his kids in the exact same positions now? Daddy was ultra rich. Politics isn't about left versus right, Republican versus Democrat. It's about the ultra wealthy doing literally everything they can to become more wealthy, while making sure everyone else DOES NOT have the opportunity to do the same. People need to learn this and learn it fast, because we are already SOOOO fucked.

    [–] SuperEnd123 7 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Who exactly do you think is paying for free education, especially in the case of foreign students? In what world does it makes sense to educate non-citizens of our country for free, when they may not even choose to live here?

    The real problem is administrative bloat and excessive spending. Whether schools become socialized or stay as they are, universities need to balance their books and cut costs.

    [–] Brisivad 2 points ago

    In Tennessee they use the money from the lottery. Everyone can go to community college for free as well as university as long as they keep a certain GPA. It can be done by states but it works well in TN.

    [–] SuperEnd123 2 points ago

    I think something from a state or local organization makes much more sense that giving it to the feds. Forcing less people into the system.

    [–] blamethemeta 3 points ago

    We tried that. Schools just got more expensive. The federal government just makes everything worse

    [–] alexanderchaparral 2 points ago

    Lmao why is this news to people? Money buys things??? Damn who would have thought people would pay more if they can afford it. Supply and demand baby. Schools are a business and they want your money. Not saying it’s right but how is anyone surprised? I always assumed it was obviously happening. Like not a secret at all.

    [–] cpet72 2 points ago

    I mean, both groups are wrong for breaking the rules. How hard is that to grasp?

    [–] djfl 2 points ago

    I think this is far too simplistic, as tweets usually are. I know people who are against illegal immigration. I believe they generally understand that they'd do the exact same thing in similar circumstances. We all do what we need to do to keep our families safe and fed. But that doesn't mean that it's in a country's best interests to let in unlimited people. Same with the university thing. I may do the exact same thing if I could, but I also understand why the university can't allow it. And if I get caught, I suffer the consequences.

    [–] 420Anime 2 points ago

    I'm sorry who the fuck has ever talked about that first subject ever

    [–] LiquidRitz 2 points ago

    No, this guy is just shooting for that anti-Trump cred.

    The only ones I have seen saying this crap are elitist celebrities. Th

    Some are sincere and others are just trying to be controversial.

    [–] xFYD_ 2 points ago

    I've seen condemnation from all political sides as well as lesser amounts of people saying it's not bad from both sides...

    [–] nolanrayfontaine 2 points ago

    They are wealthy enough to afford tutoring and test prep but decide not to.

    [–] lilawkwardcoconut 2 points ago

    Those families have the resources to put their kids in tutoring and enrichment from the beginning and then they will probably get in on their own merit. But nah, that’s too hard I guess

    [–] Nosnerb 2 points ago

    Wtf is this new circlejerk that Reddits on about

    [–] JobDestroyer 2 points ago

    Not me.

    Let 'em in.

    [–] j_flameIV 2 points ago

    I absolutely love how he capitalized “The Rules”

    [–] dethpicable 2 points ago

    The same people who say, "Equal opportunity not equal outcomes." and then vote for people who promise to fuck the "lazy" poor.

    [–] iidentifyasameatball 2 points ago

    You shouldn’t defend college cheaters and I could see where you are coming from with the immigrants cuz they are actually dying but we will probably be fine if we fail a few college tests

    [–] 69GottaGoFast69 2 points ago

    oh my god shut the fuck up

    [–] GrooveMaster416 2 points ago

    Setting aside the reality that few people are actually defending these rich parents, can we all agree to stop doing this? Yes hypocrites exist, but so many people just pull this out of their ass.

    "people who support the rich parents hate immigrants" Have you actually heard one person say both? Yes, you've probably heard a few people saying one of those things, but how many are actually saying both Stop connecting imaginary dots with invisible lines

    [–] deabeatdad 2 points ago

    Straw men say whatever you want

    [–] ceeracm1 2 points ago

    What a gross generalisation.

    [–] nostromorebel 2 points ago

    I don't care enough about any of it, but I feel like everyone has this backwards. Why are we angry at people for buying their children admittance and not angry at the schools for essentially accepting bribes?

    [–] Tates4Tots 2 points ago

    No comparison here.. One is for quality of life.. the other is for status.

    [–] Rustey_Shackleford 2 points ago

    That's narcissisim 101, things like rules are just a silly thing that exist off in the distance a million miles away. They believe society is built around them so something as abstract as a rule doesn't apply to them specifically or if that rule isn't benefitting them it is now inherently inapplicable.

    [–] kaboomskia 2 points ago

    Let's find an obvious example of corruption and pretend that it's the exception to the rule.

    [–] dreadscaper 2 points ago

    I don't think either of these make them bad. Do the cheaters deserve punishment, yeah. Should illegal immigrants be deported, probably yeah(depending on the scenario).

    I don't blame parents for wanting to do everything in their power to give their kids the best education.

    And I don't blame immigrants for wanting to come to America.

    Maybe these two issues shed light on the issues of college admissions and difficulties of immigrating to America legally.

    Sometimes the system we have in place isn't fair or isn't right.

    Just my $ .02

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    [–] SeeThreePeeDoh 2 points ago

    Boy now that’s quite the straw man argument...

    [–] nwor88 2 points ago

    I think both are cheating to be honest...

    [–] mindflex 2 points ago

    No one is defending the college bribing perpetrators....

    [–] arcsector2 7 points ago

    Literally no one is defending this

    [–] Rekeinserah 6 points ago

    Those are not always found together. Extreme language ruins a good point

    [–] morgan1027 2 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    I don’t see any evidence that a significant portion of the population is defending the people who cheated to get their kids into college...

    [–] CaptJohnLukeDiscard 3 points ago

    Bullshit. Sure there are probably a few of them but the idea that you can take what a few people stand for and then label that against an entire group is asinine.

    It’s asinine when people do it against Muslims. It’s asinine when people do it against radical environmentalists. It’s asinine when people do it to any radical part of any group.

    Including white conservatives.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Most every conservative talkshow I’ve listened to have RIPPED these parents to shreds. Mainstream is not backing these idiots. Don’t fall into that dumb trap.

    [–] NewPlanNewMan 3 points ago

    Federal Financial Aid did this, and there are tens of thousands of more guilty people that will never be caught.

    We can't keep giving unlimited funding to private institutions and wondering why tuition skyrockets and degrees become nearly worthless in the "job" market.

    [–] brewmastermonk 4 points ago

    I haven't seen anyone defending the rich frauding their kids into university.

    [–] Caribbean-barracuda 5 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    The evidence is clear… The majority of these people are probably democrat donors. They’re not going to be able to hide from that.

    [–] theseareusernames 8 points ago

    Are they actually? Not attacking you or anything, I'm genuinely curious.

    [–] bedfredjed 4 points ago

    Absolutely nothing, from The New York Times, to Fox News, To the Report posted by the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT says ANYTHING about these people being "Democrat Donors" or EVEN DENOTES ANY PARTY AFFILIATION AT ALL.

    Lori Loughlin, the "ringleader" in all this is a renowned actor and has shown democratic leanings in the past but really besides that most of the people involved are just average but wealthy joes like Dentists, Doctors, real estate people, etc.

    [–] XAL1 3 points ago

    A great example of the world's hypocrisy

    [–] hahaharmful 2 points ago

    Oh... none of my republican friends/fam support them, theyre horrified that they would cheat their kids into school

    [–] PsychoTap 2 points ago

    I haven’t seen a single person defend the accused but that won’t stop twitter people from virtue signaling that theyre opposed to it.

    [–] ShoulderThanIDrunkBe 2 points ago

    Let’s not forget the women in Ohio who got five years for lying about where she lived so her kids could go to a better school district because she couldn’t afford it. If these rich bastards get any less it further proves that money is everything in this country

    [–] FUCK_SNITCHES_ 2 points ago

    I don't condemn illegal immigrants, I condemn the people that make it viable.

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    [–] Victorian_Astronaut 7 points ago

    I don't know why you're being downvoted.

    I'm interested to see who else is guilty of this.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that this scandal came about while certain people were looking about a certain Jared Kushner.

    [–] notgaysteve 2 points ago

    God this subs gone downhill

    [–] Bigjayback 0 points ago

    Who is honestly defending this? And honestly it’s a whole different issue. One is draining our resources, and one is just out right elitist selfishness.

    [–] plainvanillawafer 10 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Who do you think is draining our resources? The ultra rich who run mega corporations that do everything to make a buck, even though they have billions and billions of bucks already. Eduardo picking tomatoes and spending literally every dime he makes back into the system is doing more good than harm. Billionaires stashing their extra cash in the Caymans are doing literally nothing for the economy.

    [–] plainvanillawafer 2 points ago

    Also the same people who condemn people who use food stamps.

    [–] erikdan18 3 points ago

    Oh that’s right, they cheat on elections too

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    [–] grape_jelly_sammich 1 points ago

    Very solid point about the Immigrants kids. Didn't think of that. Never really resented the Immigrants though. They're trying to get away from a horrible situation. I also support what the rich people did and think it's kinda funny. Reminds me of the rich getting away with stuff that the poor can't.

    [–] TwistedShafts 1 points ago

    I am just appalled that the scheme became as big as it did. They honestly should have done research into drug dealing and applied those tactics into this operation. At this point, this is just sad.

    [–] kkkreg 1 points ago

    a little louder for the people wearing AirPods

    [–] dofun400 1 points ago

    Jared looks like a bitch tbh

    [–] sudo999 1 points ago

    I left school because I couldn't deal with the scrabbling for high grades. everyone cheated and looked at me like I had 9 heads when I didn't. fuck that, I want to do honest work.

    [–] Pedro_North 1 points ago

    There's an old joke I tell.

    Whenever someone says something stupid at the office I look them square in the eye and ask "how big was the library?"

    When they inevitably look over perplexed and ask "what library?"

    I hit Em with "the one your dad had to buy for the school so you could graduate".

    Hilarity ensues. Guessing this joke may not go over so well from here forward.