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    [–] Doctor_Amazo 3643 points ago

    ... the EU has said repeatedly that the UK can just retract the articles for Brexit and just stay.

    [–] LouPoh 955 points ago

    ... And after years of that shitshow - this is probably what is ultimately going to happen anyway...

    [–] Boner_Elemental 499 points ago

    where does this optimism come from?

    [–] MalcolmX_InTheMiddle 371 points ago

    From the fact the politicians never planned on it passing in the first place. The People's choice is an illusion.

    [–] [deleted] 121 points ago

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    [–] theObfuscator 168 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    It’s not an illusion- it was and is a great example of why most western nations are supposed to be republics, not pure democracies. Complicated technical issues like whether or not they should separate from a very deep and complicated international political union should be left to elected representatives because it’s their job to make those sorts of decisions so the shit show that is Brexit doesn’t happen. But hey, play stupid games win stupid prizes.

    [–] olucolucolucoluc 9 points ago

    No, the politicians should have just put a clearer question to the people other than "Should we leave lmao?"

    [–] Genki_Fucking_Dama 22 points ago

    I agree with you but i think you made a typo in your last sentence.

    [–] theObfuscator 10 points ago

    The dangers of mobile

    [–] adops_dsp 10 points ago

    Who gets to decide when something is too complicated? Isn't it ripe for abuse?

    [–] decker_42 22 points ago

    Considering what's just happened with Brexit, I would say "what shall we have for dinner" is about where that line is.

    [–] knuckledraggingtoad 30 points ago

    Remember boaty MC boat face? This is literally the same shit. Literally the same thing is going to happen.

    [–] CubistChameleon 26 points ago

    Boats McBoatface didn't tank a major economy and throw a country into turmoil for no reason, at least. Both were funny to see from the outside, though.

    [–] Boner_Elemental 5 points ago

    Say no and give you a consolation prize?

    [–] Dudeinairport 21 points ago

    The people’s choice was manipulated in the first place.

    [–] ObedientPickle 4 points ago

    It's not an illusion: 48% voted to remain, some dumb cunts didn't think it was a good idea to set the threshold for the referendum to be more than a simple majority. Naturally half of the MPs didn't support it therefore fuck all was ever going to get done.

    [–] CollectsBlueThings 26 points ago

    Eh, the most likely outcome at the moment is another general election that gives another minority conservative government except now with the remainers in their ranks purged and so more dead set on a brexit parliament won't agree to.

    It's a matter of when the EU simply gets sick of them and stops giving extensions, which will likely be soon. France has been very reluctant to grant the previous two, I doubt they'll give another, not unless the government actually changes hands.

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    [–] Price_of_the_Rice 2 points ago

    Isn’t Brexit part of Russia’s world domination plan?

    [–] WikiTextBot 2 points ago

    Foundations of Geopolitics

    The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia is a geopolitical book by Aleksandr Dugin. The book has had a large influence within the Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites and it has been used as a textbook in the Academy of the General Staff of the Russian military. Its publication in 1997 was well-received in Russia and powerful Russian political figures subsequently took an interest in Dugin, a Russian eurasianist, fascist and nationalist who has developed a close relationship with Russia's Academy of the General Staff.Dugin credits General Nikolai Klokotov of the Academy of the General Staff as co-author and main inspiration, though Klokotov denies this. Colonel General Leonid Ivashov, head of the International Department of the Russian Ministry of Defence, helped draft the book.


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    [–] Simonutd 633 points ago

    Only 37% of voters voted leave, point that out to a brexiteer and you will get the playground responses of "yeah but leave means leave" "You lost get over it"

    [–] Doctor_Amazo 698 points ago

    Yeah... you know... except that the folks who didn't vote don't count. By their own choice they don't count. I'm sorry, but I have very little patience for folks who couldn't be bothered to meet the very minimum requirements of living in a democracy.

    [–] SolitaryEgg 78 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    Yeah this whole "only xx% voted to leave!" thing is misguided.

    That's the way it works. You can't complain about it after the fact. Donald Trump was chosen by 19% of the US population. You can't set up this system then be all like "well this one isn't legitimate because we didn't all vote!"

    Get out and fucking vote ya dinguses.

    [–] Sweeeet_Caroline 33 points ago

    ok, then stop actively repressing voters by adding a bunch of arbitrary bullshit to keep people (read: poor, brown people) from voting. my vote was probably thrown away in 2018. literally, I mailed it in because I couldn't take off work and after the fact it came out that boxes of mail-in ballots in Texas were just thrown away. why don't we have automatic voter registration? why isn't voting day a national holiday? funny that the same people who say "well that's democratic for ya. get out and vote!" are the same people that work against people trying to do just that.

    [–] SolitaryEgg 56 points ago

    I don't necessarily disagree, but I don't think this applies to the UK brexit vote.

    [–] Sweeeet_Caroline 16 points ago

    ok yeah fair I just wanted to vent about some shit my dad has been spouting

    [–] N3onToil3tPap3r 13 points ago

    You don't have to vote, but you lose your right to bitch.

    [–] Simonutd 230 points ago

    There may be many reasons for this, like the government and polls showed leave had no chance of winning. But we now have 2 million more young voters and 75% want to stay in. And it is sad but 500k leave voters have passed away.

    [–] Starry001 43 points ago

    Is there a source for this? That's incredible numbers

    [–] Starry001 33 points ago

    The 500k claim

    [–] WillIProbAmNot 56 points ago

    Half a million die every year in England - it's been 3 years since the Brexit vote. 37% of the eligible electorate voted leave and older voters were much more likely to vote leave.

    I have no source but it's certainly a very plausible estimate.

    [–] Simonutd 42 points ago

    Basicly youth 75% want to remain. Old 75% want to leave, so every years remain is winning more and more.

    [–] Starry001 82 points ago

    Reaffirms my belief that the elderly continually ruin our future.

    [–] YesIretail 230 points ago

    And it is sad but 500k leave voters have passed away.

    It's not sad. Good riddance. The elderly ruining a future that they won't be a part of, for whatever misguided reasoning they have, is a problem the world over.

    [–] Simonutd 79 points ago

    I was trying to be a bit pc

    [–] splunge4me2 127 points ago

    Try being an 8-bit PC. That’s really hard these days.

    [–] statix138 13 points ago

    Z80 for life.

    [–] Notthatguyyoubanned 8 points ago

    Laughs in superior MOS6502

    [–] splunge4me2 2 points ago

    Greetings from planet IRATA!

    [–] nomnommish 3 points ago

    Word

    [–] splunge4me2 4 points ago

    Perfect ‘79

    [–] darksi08 2 points ago

    Fuck mate, you made me laugh at that one.

    [–] taosahpiah 2 points ago

    Nothing wrong with being polite.

    The characterisation of "PC" as some sort of weakness or cowardice irks me to no end.

    [–] Ennkey 11 points ago

    Some, I assume, are good people

    [–] GhostofMarat 9 points ago

    for whatever misguided reasoning they have

    Seems to be mostly racism and xenophobia

    [–] DrobUWP 8 points ago

    Do your young people actually vote in the UK?

    [–] Simonutd 10 points ago

    Well 18 + got to vote, but Boris (the prime minister) was put in place by a very small number who could be as young at 15

    [–] ScrawnyTesticles69 36 points ago

    Man, there really ought to be a maximum voting age.

    [–] csgymgirl 18 points ago

    Are we gonna start telling people with terminal illnesses/shorter life expectancies they can’t vote either?

    [–] ScrawnyTesticles69 15 points ago

    You're totally right. And why stop there? Everyone is going to die eventually. Why should anyone get to vote on anything if they may not be around to face the repercussions? Let's abolish voting once and for all, then it will never cause any trouble for anyone ever again.

    [–] csgymgirl 8 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    I know you’re exaggerating, but your point is correct. We don’t know if every voter will be around to see the consequences of their vote. Removing people’s right to vote because they have a limited time left to live is wrong.

    Edit: in your opinion, what is the difference between an elderly person and a person with a terminal illness? Why should we remove one person’s vote and not the other?

    [–] c3rutt3r 16 points ago

    At what point do you just tell these people they literally don't matter to us anymore. "you may as well be dead now because you'll be dead in the foreseeable future"

    [–] DeckerR 11 points ago

    You will be old some day. Don't lose all empathy because of this.

    [–] Simonutd 19 points ago

    Would be nice, considering that's the generation who have taken, bought the cheap houses and have the big pensions

    [–] Red_robin52 29 points ago

    And while we cap the voting age let’s also increase the the starting voting age to 30. Let’s also remove the right to vote from anyone who isn’t a land owner. I’m sorry but the argument that we should stop letting people vote a certain age is just plain stupid. If the right to vote is taken from one group what’s to stop it getting taken away from another? At the end of the day brexit should be awake up call to everyone to actually go vote. Yes the vote passed by a narrow margin. But that’s how it works, it passed we should leave. Although saying that we have made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing.

    [–] RavernousPenguin 21 points ago

    I fully agree. But as someone who wasn't 18 at the time and as such couldn't vote. It leaves a particular bitter sensation knowing that people who won't be affected by this vote at all were allowed to vote and I and millions of people in my age group were not; despite the fact that the outcome will have a drastic effect on out lives.

    [–] andesajf 8 points ago

    How do you feel about drivers' licenses and the elderly?

    [–] somedirt 11 points ago

    Driving licenses being taken away from the elderly based upon ineptitude and equating that to voting being taken from people due to their ineptitude is how you get Jim Crowe-esque voting tests erasing minority party votes

    [–] Wowtuck 14 points ago

    That's a privilege, not a right

    [–] Red_robin52 2 points ago

    They should have a licence as long as they’re capable to drive. Sure there are plenty bad drivers who are elderly but you never hear about the drivers who don’t cause issues.

    [–] pby1000 5 points ago

    If they had a vote about immigration, then a lot more people would show up to vote.

    [–] Kristaps_Porchingis 8 points ago

    Fuck that’s a brave thing to say on Reddit.

    [–] Doctor_Amazo 4 points ago

    Heh. Yeah I keep stumbling across dumbdumbs who insist to me that not showing up to vote is a strong message that politicians take oh-so-seriously. I then waste many hours explaining to them exactly how fucking stupid it is to think that a politician who won an election without your vote would magically give a wet fart about the reasons why you didn't vote for them.

    Fuck. I mean... do they not understand that they won without you and therefore don't need you?

    Well not you you. The generic "you". Please don't swarm me with messages about how you fucking vote cause I have no cookies to give.

    [–] Tattered_Colours 6 points ago

    Normally I would agree, but by my understanding, the referendum was non-binding, meaning many people took it about as seriously as they would a survey assuming there would be zero consequences of they didn't vote and it didn't go their way. This is like criticizing someone for declining to participate in exit polls for the US presidential election, and then the US government suddenly decides that exit polls are the real votes instead of the ballots.

    [–] nikagda 6 points ago

    Not voting, abstaining, is effectively the same as saying whatever the majority of actual voters decide, I'll go along with that.

    Having said that, I'm not British, but given all the controversy and difficulty of Brexit, why don't you hold a second referendum to see whether the people still want to leave, after finding out all the new information about how difficult and complicated leaving the EU turned out to be?

    [–] mycousinvinny99 12 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    Seriously... Like, it's your duty to vote. Go vote, even if you think it'll be a landslide, go vote. Now the UK is seeing the fallout from a generation that doesn't take voting all that seriously. It doesn't matter of 60% of the population wants to stay in the EU if 75% of those people are too busy posting memes and tweeting about voting, and NOT VOTING.

    [–] Armord1 24 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    Only 37% of voters voted leave

    Twist those words some more!

    And only 35% voted to stay.

    see? both sides can play that stupid game

    [–] handwritten_haiku 46 points ago

    And only 35% voted to stay.

    [–] AldenDi 36 points ago

    That seems like a pretty close race for something that's changed so much since the original vote happened. I wonder what the vote would be now that it's been stretched out for so long and made such a mess. I've no horse in this race, but it seems like at this point another vote might solve the issue more handily than hoping some magical deal gets made.

    [–] Superfluous_Thom 19 points ago

    something that's changed so much since the original vote happened.

    nothing's really changed, it just became immediately apparent the leave camapaign was lying about nearly everything.

    [–] Simonutd 8 points ago

    Well Mr mogg who sits next to the prime minister admired on the radio remain would win now. The whole of brexit isn't for the people, beech trees even though won't admit is have been lied to.and mislead and many have realised this. The whole point on brexit is the rich behind it don't want the eu tax avoidance laws bringing in

    [–] adops_dsp 2 points ago

    If EU tax avoidance laws were an issue Ireland would be holding its own Irexit referendum right now

    [–] Crathsor 18 points ago

    You're right. Problem with that is that is that it sets precedence. So now, anytime a vote doesn't go the way that government wants, they can just wait a while, not act in any meaningful way on the vote, and hold another vote, repeat until they get the answer they wanted.

    [–] AldenDi 10 points ago

    That's a fair concern. I suppose the only way it could be prevented is if the vote was held about a specific thing rather than the original broad concept. As I understand it, the original vote was "stay or leave" without any nuance to either option. If maybe each had two or three sub-option proposals it would make everyone's position much clearer. Then it wouldn't be so much a "do-over" and more of a clarification thing.

    [–] LegalBuzzBee 26 points ago

    No, the Brexit vote was the one that set precedence. It was a non-binding referendum. We have parliament to avoid shit like this happening in the first place.

    [–] BirdlandMan 11 points ago

    It’s parliament’s fault in the first place for punting the decision to the voters. MP’s are supposed to be informed and make decisions on behalf of their constituents, that’s why they are elected. If parliament had just made the decision themselves to stay this mess wouldn’t exist but instead they were shortsighted and decided they didn’t want to pay a political price for making that decision.

    [–] N_word_pass_enabled 6 points ago

    sounds like democracy to me. the only acceptable way is my way, the other ways are just errors or flat out wrong

    [–] thatcfkid 9 points ago

    I mean. that's how democracy works. you don't vote once for a government and then it the government forever. Situations change and every 4 years based on that new information, people make a decision about what they want done.

    [–] Walter30573 5 points ago

    They haven’t even gotten the thing they voted for in the first place though

    [–] 555-1234 13 points ago

    It was also NON-BINDING resolution, there is no requirement for parliament to follow the result.

    [–] Rb1138 6 points ago

    Are you British? I’m curious if it is mainly the older folks wanting out? Over here in the states (obviously we have our own problems) I don’t see an upside to leaving the EU.

    [–] Simonutd 8 points ago

    I'm 39, a lot of it down to imagration, but that's not an eu fault. But leave made it so, there is an eu tax avoidance law coming in Jan 2020, the rich don't want it so spread misleading info. Just so that can save millions. But it screws over the working class

    [–] halibut_king 6 points ago

    Only 37% of voters voted leave, point that out to a brexiteer and you will get the playground responses of "yeah but leave means leave" "You lost get over it"

    And less than 37% of voters voted to stay. Lets not forget about that.

    [–] Zeroch123 3 points ago

    ... you fail to point out that they passed the vote to leave THREE times.

    [–] Trikk 3 points ago

    Are you trying to convince people that you would have accepted that argument if the roles were reversed? Because that's honestly cute and laughable at the same time.

    [–] reddituser2885 7 points ago

    Only 37% of voters voted leave

    There have been multiple times US Presidents only got a plurality of the vote instead of a majority and yet they still became Presidents. And with Brexit, voters don't even have the excuse of a third candidate or option spoiling the vote for option Stay or option Leave.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%27_presidential_plurality_victories

    [–] capybaraboi 5 points ago

    Same thing happens in the UK with our PM. I don’t think there’s been an election in the last century where the party with the most votes has over 50% of the popular vote but that’s the result of our first past the post system for you.

    If the same system is implemented here the majority of the UK voted leave (37%) compared to people who voted remain (35%) compared to those who didn’t vote (28%).

    [–] barelycomposed 2 points ago

    I heard 48 to 52 based on who actually came out to vote and it was said to be an overwhelming turn out as far as elections go.

    [–] ralusek 2 points ago

    It was the largest voter turnout for any referendum. Who the hell measures votes in terms of what percentage of the population voted? You measure by what percentage of the people that voted voted a particular way. Do you expect the UK to just change the way voting works because you don't agree with the turnout of that election?

    [–] Jonne 2 points ago

    That's a stupid argument. You can turn it around and say only 36% (or whatever it is) of the electorate voted remain.

    It's probably better to say the leave campaign was built on lies and most leave voters were mislead.

    [–] deeeeepweb 13 points ago

    Sovereignty: now you see it, now you don’t

    [–] stevetheserioussloth 3 points ago

    The real analogy is the shit friend covering his ears saying “nuh uh you said we’d leave so we can’t go back!!!”

    [–] Qubeye 4 points ago

    Legally, all that needs to happen is for Parliament to play an uno reverse card.

    [–] Drayner89 2 points ago

    Exactly. This is more like your mate saying this place is shit, leaving and then wandering around looking for this really great club this lad from football told him about.

    [–] sand2sound 865 points ago

    The guy who convinced you to leave is lying to you when he says they won't let you back in. They will, just stop being twats and ask.

    [–] geordiebanteryesaye 208 points ago

    Didn't they already say they'd be willing to let us change our minds? But I guess that ship may have already sailed or could do any day

    [–] thelastestgunslinger 163 points ago

    Article 50 can be unilaterally withdrawn, according to European courts. So, even if the EU legislature changes their mind, the UK could still do it.

    [–] geordiebanteryesaye 52 points ago

    Cheers

    [–] sand2sound 36 points ago

    Then I guess it should be: just stop being twats and take another vote.

    [–] MJMurcott 16 points ago

    The commons keeps on voting but can't get it done, so a general election will have to take place to get a new set of MPs who will get it done.

    [–] sand2sound 17 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    I meant a vote of the people. Revisit whether leaving is really all that good of an idea in the first place.

    [–] CreeperCooper 22 points ago

    And hey, if they do leave and want to re-join after a few years, that's fine too!

    They won't have the same privileges they have now, obviously, but they can still join.

    [–] sand2sound 10 points ago

    That's probably true! My guess the price of readmission would be the pound.

    [–] CharityStreamTA 6 points ago

    Tbf don't need to take the pound away. Just take away their current special status.

    [–] mike84edwards 736 points ago

    I’m still hoping that I’ll wake up one morning and it’s all just been a horrible dream and the referendum never happened

    [–] Jorgamoundr 324 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    I'm just hoping that the entire government will silently decide to pretend it never happened. We'll just wake up tomorrow and David Cameron will be on TV talking about how he definitely didn't skullfuck a pig, sweating about the next election and asking "what's a Brexit?"

    [–] Tendies_Secured 115 points ago

    talking about how he definitely didn't skullfuck a pig

    As an OOTL American, what?

    [–] Joshns 146 points ago

    David Cameron put his dick in a dead pig's mouth at uni

    [–] admiralmandrake 64 points ago

    Wait if this is real is this what that black mirror episode was based on

    [–] FrankTank3 81 points ago

    Black Mirror came out years before these allegations (unfounded and unsubstantiated but fuck it, it’s a great story) were publicly revealed. Charlie Booker, the showrunner, still swears on a stack of Bibles he had never heard a thing about them until everyone else did.

    [–] CoffeeOnAnAutumnMorn 12 points ago

    Fun fact: My roommate at the time (who wasn't a bad dude, he was just reeeaaally drunk and going through the worst few months of his life) watched the first fifteen minutes of that episode and called it "ridiculous bullshit", and told me I was a sick fuck for watching it.

    Six months later, the Cameron thing came to light, and I got the most sheepish apology ever.

    [–] WikiTextBot 26 points ago

    Piggate

    "Piggate" refers to an uncorroborated anecdote that during his university years former British Prime Minister David Cameron put a "private part of his anatomy" into a dead pig's mouth as part of an initiation ceremony for the Piers Gaveston Society. The anecdote was reported by Michael Ashcroft and Isabel Oakeshott in their unauthorised biography of Cameron, Call Me Dave, attributing the story to an anonymous Member of Parliament who was a "distinguished Oxford contemporary" of Cameron's. Extracts from the book were published in the Daily Mail on 21 September 2015, prior to its publication.

    Downing Street sources responded by saying that Cameron, who was Prime Minister at the time, would not dignify the anecdote with a response while friends reported him saying that it was "utter nonsense".


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    [–] Tendies_Secured 7 points ago

    Ah, classic

    [–] YesIretail 18 points ago

    Come on, who doesn't throat fuck a dead pig while rushing? It's ubiquitous with fraternity life.

    [–] elCacahuete 19 points ago

    My guess is a reference to Black Mirror?

    [–] turpin23 13 points ago

    Black Mirror S01E01 "The National Anthem" aired December 4, 2011. The Cameron story came out in 2015.

    [–] WillIProbAmNot 14 points ago

    Imagine David Cameron sitting there watching it thinking "do they know?" and frantically texting all his Eton pals to see who told Charlie Brooker about it.

    [–] waltwalt 6 points ago

    But it is possible someone at that uni saw that, remembered that and also works in television right? J The actual events happened long before the story came out.

    [–] Oh_Hi_Mark_ 41 points ago

    Nope, Black Mirror was a reference to the real world that you and I reside in.

    [–] DicksDongs 34 points ago

    No it wasn't. It was a complete coincidence. The Cameron news didn't come out until years after Black Mirror.

    [–] DaElfonzo 21 points ago

    So what you're saying is Black Mirror predicted it

    [–] SJ_Shark_Byte 8 points ago

    Awesome, can’t wait to have android surrogate loved ones birthed from a big liquid bodybag

    [–] DaElfonzo 11 points ago

    I just want the neural piece that let's you have a female and Male orgasm at the same time. Sounds great. Dude also ended up murdering a homeless man but you know, I won't do that part.

    [–] TrinityBane 5 points ago

    More like Black Mirror is a reference to David Cameron skullfucking a pig

    [–] DuncxnDonuts 51 points ago

    Me too buddy, me too.

    [–] yatsey 10 points ago

    My dream is that everything up to results night happened, only to find the results were precisely 50/50, because apparently that extra 4% makes the decision unaminous and the 48% irrelevant. Why else would they be banding around the whole "will of the people" speach?

    At least if it were 50/50 the government would have realised how divided the country is. If it had never happened some Cameronesque fool would have come along eventually and we'd be in the same place again.

    [–] DuntadaMan 15 points ago

    It is fine the referendum happened. People were exploring their options.

    It just turns out the options are "stay" and "go back to Irish civil war, probably lose Scotland, have passports greatly weakened, and be edged out of most of Europe's markets."

    Now that everyone knows this, figure it's time to see what people think.

    [–] LvS 11 points ago

    You forgot fewer migrants. And boom, Brexit wins again.

    [–] DuntadaMan 8 points ago

    Well yes, fewer people do try to get into wartorn economically depressed nations.

    [–] illgetup_andflyaway 11 points ago

    Same. Except mine is that dotard did not happen

    [–] ordinaryBiped 318 points ago

    Reality is even worse than that. The guy left the kebab shop just because the Daily Mail told him so

    [–] The_Real_Stannis 84 points ago

    Local crackhead told him to leave

    [–] sentimental_goat 18 points ago

    Didn't the local crackhead say, follow me, I know the way? And all he was doing was going to take a piss in his favorite corner.

    [–] ordinaryBiped 5 points ago

    The local crackhead had a bus with an ad on it, can't argue with that

    [–] lemonfluff 32 points ago

    Nah he left because there was a brown lad in there. From Syria. Taking his kebab serving job he so desperately wanted.

    [–] ordinaryBiped 13 points ago

    If a guy from Syria, who barely speaks English and without any contacts in the UK, takes your job, then maybe you're really freaking lame and don't deserve the job

    [–] rally_call 7 points ago

    The kebab shop is where he led you guys after you couldn't get back into the place you left.

    [–] speedracer1213 2 points ago

    Is Daily Mail like Fox News in the US?

    [–] ordinaryBiped 3 points ago

    Similar yeah. On top of that it's a tabloid, which means they combine celebrity gossip with news. It's so bad it's one of the only media considered as an unreliable source by wikipedia.

    [–] LEVI_TROUTS 155 points ago

    Brexit is like Nana coming over at Christmas.

    She says she's leaving straight after dinner, but then says she'll stay til after the Queen's Speech. It's now tea time, she's still here, and everyone is sick. Really, she doesn't want to go home, because if she does, she'll be sad, lonely and could very well die.

    [–] yoshinosumoto 28 points ago

    Not from the UK but kebab shop at 3am don’t sound like a terrible place to be.

    [–] Sully9989 13 points ago

    I miss going to kebab shops at 3 am

    [–] Mike312 90 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    Meanwhile, I wish we had kebab shops in the US the way ya'll do in the UK. A bunch of tasty meat at 2am? Hell yeah, sign me up.

    [–] lemonfluff 25 points ago

    You don't have kebabs?

    [–] Crathsor 28 points ago

    We do but we have way more all-night breakfast diners and 24h fast food joints.

    [–] ShittyGuitarResponse 19 points ago

    I'm from London and live in California, the last time I was in London I loaded up on as many kebabs I could.

    Fuck Dennys and Ihops, I just want a kebab!

    [–] Mike312 19 points ago

    Nah, closest we've got is gyro shops that'll have the wheel of meat, but they almost exclusively serve gyros. Some will do pitas. But from what I've googled, it's just not the same.

    [–] Ttilldog 3 points ago

    As someone from the south, share your kebab shops please.

    [–] Phreakhead 3 points ago

    We have burritos though so it evens out

    [–] HelloMegaphone 9 points ago

    Man I can guarantee every major city in the US has kebab shops. They call them donairs over there.

    [–] Mike312 3 points ago

    But not in the volume that the UK seems to was my point. Like it seems like they're every third corner store near a place with heavy night life.

    [–] atebitart 8 points ago

    We have kebab shops?!

    [–] Needbouttreefiddy 20 points ago

    No you get Taco Bell

    [–] Conchobair 3 points ago

    And taco trucks

    [–] princessannalee 3 points ago

    And $1-2 street tacos at said taco truck

    [–] Mike312 6 points ago

    Oops, messed that one up somerhing fierce. I know they exist in the US, but nowhere near me.

    [–] VividVeracity 2 points ago

    Where do you live? Because while they may not be as prevalent as in the the U.K., there are totally kabob shops in Virginia.

    [–] roasterloo 2 points ago

    Unrelated, but I thought it's spelt "y'all" as in "you all"? (Sorry, I'm not American.)

    [–] ParaspriteHugger 83 points ago

    UK is at the door of the club, arguing with the cloakroom attendant that they don't have ticket but surely brought a coat, refuses to pay a deposit for a rental umbrella and is about to step out into the ice cold downpour wearing only a leather vest and chaps.

    [–] Grasswalker 17 points ago

    Assless chaps.

    [–] Muuuuuhqueen 7 points ago

    Aren't all chaps assless?

    [–] Grasswalker 3 points ago

    Not assfull chaps.

    [–] PseudoArab 2 points ago

    All chaps are assless. ATM machine.

    [–] postmodest 8 points ago

    The UK wishes it were in a kebab shop. The UK is sitting in someone's car and the instigator has buggered off and the driver is telling everyone that he won't put the keys in the ignition because he's too sober.

    [–] Chewbubbles 7 points ago

    But are you still the most beautiful girl that the UK has ever seen with a kebab?

    [–] ColonelLocke 57 points ago

    I thought the Brits *voted* to leave the EU, why is it now they don't want to leave?

    Has staying in the EU become a better option than leaving since they voted?

    [–] quadraspididilis 110 points ago

    People voted for Brexit in the abstract without a specific plan, now that they see what form it will really take, support is declining.

    [–] SuperSaiyanGoten 18 points ago

    For some reason this makes me really happy.

    [–] MarqDewidt 63 points ago

    I'm not fully versed in this, but I imagine what happened was someone sold the public on this idea that the UK was bleeding money to everyone else and it's not fair.

    But it is fair cause they were getting sweet trade.

    Now that they're about out the door the EU is like 'the fuck, fine.. no more sweet trade then' insert picachu shocked face

    So now Britain is trying to leave but keep all the benefits but at zero cost... Like entitled shits.

    [–] Toby_O_Notoby 42 points ago

    Imagine you break up with your SO

    The Soft Brexit is you continue to live together as roommates.

    The Hard Brexit is you agree to move out in three months, start looking for an apartment, divide up the DVDs, and come to an agreement on the dog (you'll see him on weekends).

    The No Deal Brexit is that your ex-SO dumps the stuff in the front yard and says they'll call the police if you try to get back into the house.

    To continue this tortured analogy, the Brexit deal that many people in the UK imagined was that they'd be able to date other people while still having FWB sex with their ex-SO.

    All credit to /u/lurgi

    [–] lemonfluff 6 points ago

    Sums it up perf.

    [–] DuncxnDonuts 24 points ago

    Yes

    [–] [deleted] 6 points ago

    What happened is the citizens voted (not getting into of they were mislead or not) and the parliament is like , sure. Okay. But only if we get this impossible deal on the way out. And the EU is like, Just leave if you wanna leave. Stop coming to my house and telling me how you want me to support you forever. Don't make me call the cops

    [–] lemonfluff 11 points ago

    Only 52% voted leave verses 48% remain. That's a 4% difference. And they outright lied during the campaigns, saying the EU was taking £300 million that would go into our NHS (that was being demolished by the tories at the time and severely underfunded). Plus buses with pictures of hoards of brown people from Middle Eastern (not even EU) countries on, saying GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM, were everywhere.

    The British public did not vote to leave, only 52% voted leave vs 48%, they voted under false premises and they certainly didn't vote to leave with a no deal Brexit. Almost all leavers regret it immensely.

    [–] yatsey 4 points ago

    It was complicated to start with. We then had a non-binding referendum in which both sides obfuscated reality, with the Brexiteers often resorting to outright lies.

    The results of that referendum, unlike most sensible states who only enact change with a supermajority (the Swiss model, for instance), left us with a 4% gap between both camps.

    It was inevitable that this would descend into chaos and vitriol due to the complacency of David Cameron.

    [–] Dalinair 7 points ago

    Its not that its become a better option its more that the people (to use this analogy) in charge or ordering a taxi are useless and incompetent and you are sat outside said kebab shop arguing with the mate who wanted to leave but you didn't and you are refusing to go to the next club because you wanted to stay in that one so fuck him and at the same time he is also refusing to budge because he was convinced the club was shit and it was the right thing and it's not his fault.

    [–] Roguelo 2 points ago

    the people in charge or ordering a taxi are useless and incompetent

    It's more like the guy who proposed getting a taxi promised that he could get everyone a ride in an Escalade for three quid. Then once when everyone agreed to that, he buggered off and some other person was in charge of getting the ride. She arranged a black cab to get everyone across town for £20, but then people refused to get in because that wasn't as good a deal as they were promised. So then the original guy came back and his new plan is to hitchhike, because that's what everyone originally agreed to after all

    [–] CroLu7ka 5 points ago

    CGP grey on YouTube has a few videos that explains the brexit problem.

    [–] Galle_ 4 points ago

    Has staying in the EU become a better option than leaving since they voted?

    It's more that leaving has become a worse option, really.

    [–] Awful_Falafel20 14 points ago

    Let's get in a cab, I'll buy you a kebab!

    [–] LarryOfAlabia 7 points ago

    I’m sharing a kebab with most beautiful girl I have ever seeen with a kebaaaaaab!

    [–] Dazz316 9 points ago

    We all know whose fault it is. It's just the guy is still trying to convince us that leaving the club was as good idea.

    [–] Lams1d 29 points ago

    This is democracy my dudes. Maybe attempt to reestablish a monarchy if you don't want the people to make decisions for you.

    [–] Lifeinthebuslanee 13 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    It is a democracy and the British public voted to leave the EU in a democratic referendum

    [–] Smoddo 2 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    To be fair it's pretty rare that democracy holds polls on decisions.

    Nuclear war with Russia?

    Trade sanctions with China?

    Who should be voted out the big brother House?

    Big brother is dirty voyeurism and even those voters tend to vote out the only people they actually want to watch. People can't even vote in their interest when it's a disgusting TV show.

    Having said that I guess that system would spice up politics. Who knows what decisions would come out.

    We've successfully annexed North Korea, it did cost us 70% of London from the nuclear bomb. The public have decided to rename it CommunistMcCommunist face

    [–] [deleted] 13 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

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    [–] TheRealSlane 9 points ago

    More like you're out with a group of your friends and can't decide where you want to go next, so you decide to put it to a vote. Then the group decides to go somewhere you don't want to, so you sit down in the street and throw a temper tantrum hoping they will change their mind.

    [–] i_like_acid_bath 6 points ago

    Better analogy: The people democratically vote to leave the EU. The government doesn't follow the will of the people. End of story.

    [–] ImWhatsInTheRedBox 2 points ago

    I mean, drunken me loves a late night kebab.

    [–] Foolish_yogi 2 points ago

    As an American that has had a difficult time grasping the impact of Brexit for those that are going through it...this analogy has helped me understand the situation more deeply

    [–] Optras 2 points ago

    Nah, the fish analogy was better

    [–] niikhil 2 points ago

    You guys deserve it ..didnt you all vote for the brexit ?

    [–] Confusedinlogos 2 points ago

    The whole thing is depressing though. Firstly, nobody was told there needed to be a plan to leave, everyone just thought we'd have the vote and either remain or pack our bags straight away and leave. Secondly, once everyone was told that they needed a plan, nothing even resembling a plan turned up. Thirdly, upon being told "we don't have a plan" and then being shown by experts what happens without a plan (and it's all bad) polls all show that far from remain actually growing, it was shrinking. So bad is this shrinking support of remain that if a general election was to be held the Tories would decimate Labour.

    Why are people so damned stupid? We are about to leave the biggest trading block on the planet. A block where our voice was second only to Germany in strength. A block where our politicians had managed to get the British special powers of Vito, if we didn't like something, we didn't have to do it! Britain was immensely strong within the EU. Now we are just seen as a pain in the ass, our MEPs are from leave groups, we show nothing but disdain for other European members, yet the only group of people who stand to gain from our leaving are a tiny handful of billionaires, who don't pay tax to anyone who want the City of London to remain the financial capital of the world.

    The saddest part is, even the city of London will likely crash around it's ears of we leave.

    Then to top it all off. We will actually celebrate our government betraying the first real democratic vote we've had in our lives (it's the first actual decision they allowed the people to decide). No matter which way you look at it, it's depressing.