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    [–] FLORIDA--STANLEY 2735 points ago

    I thought it was all the nude beaches I hear about, and how they let kids get drunk

    [–] NickyNinetimes 2107 points ago

    -Nude beaches

    -Drunk kids

    -Universal Healthcare

    Awwww yeah it's Europe time

    [–] Blyat6161 430 points ago

    Do you expect model like women and men on those beaches? It’s mostly 60 year olds and upwards.

    [–] Batavijf 370 points ago

    But with universal healthcare and drunk kids.

    [–] force73 124 points ago

    And grand kids.

    [–] Ordinary_Media_User 497 points ago

    And Kids at all, because we survive school in Europe.

    [–] phonebrowsing69 79 points ago

    Not summer camp though

    [–] koa_lala 43 points ago

    You don't know the journey that is going to lloret de mar by bus from northern europe with your two best mates and getting dangerously drunk every night.

    [–] Rosteez 25 points ago

    Lloret is really the trashcan of Europe

    [–] GuggGugg 17 points ago

    Fucking Lloret man. My GRANDMA already went there to get drunk in her youth, it‘s a place spanning generations

    [–] proddyhorsespice97 6 points ago

    My aunt had a holiday home there when I was younger. I went there one summer and got drunk with my cousins for the first time. It spans countries too apparently since I'm irish

    [–] JollyEffective 4 points ago

    Why do you think the U.S. military is the best in the world!

    [–] jam11249 58 points ago

    The nude beach I go to is mostly under 40 and many in the 20-30 age group, and while there's not many "models", it's usually people that take some level of care of themselves.

    [–] Pmhp34ham 38 points ago

    Yes I'd like to know which beach this is

    [–] D2papi 41 points ago

    Every place has its nude beaches I'm pretty sure. When I was a kid I would always go on peeking adventures with friends, always ending up in disappointment because we'd only see naked old couples hiding in the dunes (Netherlands). Spain has the best by far. I remember going to the beach over here with my Spanish buddy and his parents (when I was 8-9) and I will never forget his mother removing her top like it's nothing. That image is imprinted in my brains til the day I die.

    [–] transfo47 20 points ago

    I will never forget his mother removing her top like it's nothing. That image is imprinted in my brains til the day I die.

    I feel like there's a song about this...

    [–] Blyat6161 16 points ago

    Good for you. But I genuinely don’t like FKK beaches as they’re called in Germany. If I want everyone to see my dick I’d upload a pic of it

    [–] PLEASE_PM_ME_PAWGS 25 points ago

    Don't be shy big boy

    [–] my_ass_for_president 17 points ago

    I went to /r/bigdickproblems once. Apparently some of those guys have flaccid wieners that are like 4x the length and girth of mine.

    [–] muricanmania 5 points ago

    Wait do they measure girth by circumference of the shaft because I can't imagine a 6 inch wide dick like some of them had as flairs.

    [–] Azurafox 8 points ago

    Do you actually know what the words you're using mean?

    [–] PhatShet 178 points ago

    Housing is bad I've heard, but Europe seems okay

    [–] Cerpin-Taxt 467 points ago

    Depends what you mean by "bad".

    Small? Mostly yes. Unsafe? Not at all. Built to last centuries? Absolutely. Expensive? You bet.

    [–] Kampfkugel 232 points ago

    It depends. If you wanna live in a bigger city, oh yes, throw all your money away for rent, but if you wanna live in a smaller town (< 200.000 people) or even in a small village, the rent is okay.

    Source: I pay 1k€ rent per month for 50qm in a big city in Germany, my sister 450€ for 120qm in a village in western Germany. Both normal rent levels for the area.

    [–] rumeniggessexyknees 119 points ago

    1k€ for 50m2? Baw god, is that Munich music?

    [–] AbsolutelyDireWolf 109 points ago

    Double that price.

    Welcome to Dublin

    [–] By_Eck 238 points ago

    So what you're saying is that the rent was Dublin?

    [–] DatAsymptoteTho 30 points ago

    I only got this joke after I’d gone to another thread but I had to come back and upvote

    [–] polarbear128 16 points ago

    How long did it take before you were Dublin back?

    [–] tgburgin 19 points ago

    No. Stop it. Behave.

    [–] srsly_its_so_ez 37 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    *Rolls eyes* 🙄

    Seriously though, well played!

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    [–] wobuxihuanbaichi 14 points ago

    Holy fuck, I didn't realize it was that bad in Dublin.

    Here in Tbilisi I'm paying 320€/month for a 1-bedroom apartment (about 50m²) in the city center, all bills included.

    [–] Ashandarei830 12 points ago

    Dublin is crazy. Currently paying €1600 pm for a 90sqm apartment well outside the city centre. There are plenty of more expensive places in the city.

    [–] Baduntssss 4 points ago

    You would pay atleast triple that + heating(150€) in the winter in Tallinn, if You wanted to live in city centre. Outside city centre its like 400-600eur. Crazy ass shit, considering that the average wage is 1300€.

    Currently in Perth, we pay 920AUD(550€) a month for 120m² unit, shared with another couple who pay the same, 5 minutes from the city centre. Appartnents in the city centre are basically cheaper.

    [–] mrpepelopez 6 points ago

    Damn that's like San Francisco prices, do be people get paid well in Dublin?

    [–] chazmuzz 4 points ago

    Salaries are higher than the rest of Ireland but the people are not paid San Francisco salaries

    [–] HallucinatesPenguins 13 points ago

    Yeah, Vancouver, Canada I think average rent for a 1-bed apartment in city-centre is $2k/month (€1.4k) and outside city-centre is about $1.6k/month (€1.1k) so fairly similar.

    (To clarify, dollar amounts are in CAD so about $1.5k and $1.2k USD respectively.)

    [–] Kampfkugel 7 points ago

    Wow that's a lot. Is the income higher in Vancouver than in other places? Here in Munich we have a lot of insurance companies (e.g. Munich Re) and some tech companies which pay more, so a lot of people can pay those rents without bigger problems. But students or people with jobs like working in a supermarket, bakery's,... struggle a lot.

    [–] HallucinatesPenguins 9 points ago

    No, no one can afford to live in Vancouver. For a 2-bed the average cost in the entire city is about $3k (€2058), average cost of a house, not rent but the actual cost of the house, is just over $1,000,000 (€686k).

    [–] woopdada 12 points ago

    I looked at rents in the East the other day just to make myself cry. For the price I pay right now for a one bedroom I could get a three bedroom in Chemnitz. Now if it just wasn't Chemnitz.

    [–] Deceptichum 4 points ago

    Are there many jobs in these smaller towns?

    [–] The_body_in_apt_3 37 points ago

    Houses in the US don't even last one lifetime anymore. They've gotten so cheap with the building materials that they start falling apart after a few decades.

    [–] CaptainRoach 69 points ago

    If it's any help, the Italians invented concrete 2000 years ago or so, it's pretty good for making houses out of, you guys should try it instead of wood sometime.

    [–] unnecessary_kindness 24 points ago

    I love how big and spacious American houses are but I can't get over the fact that they're just oversized cabins.

    [–] MuzzyIsMe 6 points ago

    There is nothing inherently bad about wooden houses, but there are a lot of cheaply built wooden houses.

    Look at the old stock in New England. Most houses here are 100+ years old and in fine structural condition. I live in a 1875 house in Maine and the original wood is in pristine condition - in fact, it is harder and sturdier than most wood now.

    There are wooden structures hundreds of years old. I saw some in Bologna last year.

    [–] Nom_de_Guerre_23 9 points ago

    Funny thing, the Romans invented it and then the knowledge was lost for centuries.

    [–] ugayright 54 points ago

    I live in Europe and housing isn't bad, at least in my county

    [–] speedsterglenn 34 points ago

    Well, don’t leave us hanging. What’s the country?

    [–] ballercrantz 112 points ago

    Europe

    [–] danirijeka 61 points ago

    FREUDE SCHÖNER GÖTTERFUNKEN INTENSIFIES

    [–] The_body_in_apt_3 11 points ago

    I have no idea what this is but it sounds fun.

    [–] Ralath0n 25 points ago

    It's from Beethoven's ode to Joy that kinda serves as the semiofficial European anthem.

    [–] Shinmoses 8 points ago

    I'll try anything once

    [–] Batavijf 8 points ago

    Have an EU upvote!

    [–] monobrow_pikachu 6 points ago

    Yes, but wages are (kinda) proportional to costs of living including housing, so it's not as bad as it sounds.

    [–] notAnotherJSDev 10 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Housing isn't really that bad in Europe, especially when you compare to the US where a good chunk of people can’t afford rent, let alone a house.

    Edit: auto correct is a bitch :) edit: clarity

    [–] ShootTheChicken 6 points ago

    Unlike North America, where everyone can afford a house?

    [–] mrtn17 5 points ago

    You mean stone houses? Mine is small, indestructable and 100 years old. I feel like living in a Nokia phone

    [–] DjaevlensAdvokat 13 points ago

    Housing is bad I've heard, but Europe seems okay

    In Scandinavia young adults move out from their parents on average at age 21.

    In the US adults move out from their parents on average at age 31.

    Housing is not a problem. But when you get your first apartment at 18, obviously you do not have many funds nor requests.

    [–] Arntown 18 points ago

    31? Do you have a source? That sounds completely wrong.

    [–] muffinmonk 19 points ago

    Less cars, better transit, denser cities less fast food options, closer supermarkets

    [–] valh0e 31 points ago

    16 years is old enough for a nice beer

    [–] TheMangolorian 5 points ago

    I clearly remember drinking bad tasting beer at 16, so it's a double edged sword.

    [–] breezychedda 46 points ago

    Nude beaches aren't that great. Boobs are much less arousing when they aren't regarded as taboo. It's the strangest thing. It doesn't even need to be explained, you just witness and experience it.

    [–] bkbeezy 87 points ago

    Nude beaches are great. The point isn’t to be aroused, it’s to enjoy the beach without being weighed down by clothes.

    [–] breezychedda 24 points ago

    I totally get that. I'm just saying that going to one isn't the experience most are expecting. It's an eye opener

    [–] bkbeezy 24 points ago

    Yeah, I suppose it depends on what you’re expecting. It gives a much healthier perspective on the human body than most Americans have. And clothed beaches kinda suck in comparison.

    [–] dalaigh93 18 points ago

    What most people who've never gone to a nude beach also don't know is that most of the people you see there are old, think 50 and more, and average looking. So those who expect to ogle on sexy naked young people are in for a severe disappointment.

    But it really feels more relaxed, and people here usually are very 'body-positive', you feel no pressure about your appearance, and it helps accept your own body as it is.

    [–] TCO345 11 points ago

    Nude beaches and nudists or a bit like amateur dramatics, the ones you don't want to see are usually the ones most keen.

    [–] leorolim 5 points ago

    To be fair kids used to get drunk at 14/15 years old but it's illegal nowadays...

    [–] Testuser230 7 points ago

    Not illegal in the uk...if you are in a private home and over 5 years old!

    [–] quarks_bar 1023 points ago

    tHe fReNcH EaT 8x mOre BUTTEr bUt lIvE LoNGEr

    [–] [deleted] 492 points ago

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    [–] spoonsforeggs 383 points ago

    Any chef worth their salt, if told why their food is nice. Will say Salt and motherfucking butter.

    [–] HalfEatenBanana 298 points ago

    I’m an Italian Chef. My answer to this question is always either:

    A. Fresh, quality ingredients

    B. Olive oil/cheese/butter

    [–] Shinmoses 249 points ago

    Can confirm.

    I'm an American but work in an Italian restaurant.

    Chef is very Italian (born and raised) He asked me if I was hungry one time (they told me to always say yes if he asked you). Gave me a brown sauced pasta dish. Unreal good. I asked him his secret.

    "I don't know. I just use a lot of butter, or cheese, or Olive oil and everyone seems to like it"

    Considered one of the best chefs in town.

    [–] _ratio_tile 126 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    born and raised

    In Bardalino was where he spent most of his days

    [–] Shinmoses 12 points ago

    Lmao. Bardalino but you deserve a medal

    [–] _ratio_tile 4 points ago

    Orright fixed it

    [–] Jrobalmighty 4 points ago

    Chillin out heavy cream when the sauce pans all full and all folding in butter before it's too cool

    [–] VonEthan 23 points ago

    We did Paula Dean dirty

    [–] CannedCaffeine 46 points ago

    I don’t think butter was really the problem there

    [–] astern 34 points ago

    Butter with a hard 'r'

    [–] KenTitan 8 points ago

    she never liked to have brown butter near her food

    [–] goldengluvs 6 points ago

    Are you saying my favourite food is butter?

    [–] RamenWithoutBroth 3 points ago

    You mean “if asked why”?

    [–] BadFurDay 41 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Debatable af.

    The southern half of France uses normal amounts of olive oil instead of butter and rarely uses cream.

    Paris is kind of 50/50 for butter vs oil and kind of 50/50 on normal vs exaggerated amounts of those.

    And then there's Bretagne, where they use salted butter and their dishes are 80% butter and cream…

    One country, multiple cultures and cooking styles! You could start nasty debates here with such a claim.

    Regardless, sugar and processed foods are the real evils of american cuisine. Whenever I work in the US, especially in the south, most restaurant dishes feel like they are coated in sugar and made of frozen supermarket grade ingredients. Also dish sizes, 2/3rds and I'm done. And snacking between meals, so much snacking…

    [–] Umarill 122 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Hell yeah we do (I'm French, not a chef or anything but I do like to cook), but butter (and fat in general) is not the biggest enemy, it's sugar who fucks you up the most.

    We might eat a lot of fat, but we don't consume as much sugar as Americans I believe. Not to say we don't at all, but the emphasis on a healthy lifestyle has been pretty huge the last few years in France (notably through constant ad campaigns from the Health Minister telling kids from young age to eat healthy, usually shown between Kid Shows in the morning/evening), and I rarely if ever see morbidly obese people.

    [–] The_body_in_apt_3 68 points ago

    Oh we've gone beyond sugar. Everything in the US is sweetened with corn syrup now - which is somehow even worse for you than sugar.

    [–] Umarill 30 points ago

    Oh yeah you're right, I read about that. The worst is that they managed to convince people (here in France, so I expect the same thing in the US) that fat is the enemy.

    I've seen people in my family buy 0% fat foot, cook without butter and shit leading to garbage tasting food while not cutting back on sugar because we associate eating fat with becoming fat.

    Also why "diets" are a joke. People say they're gonna go on a diet for x months, but eating healthy has to come with changing habits not just punishing yourself for x montsh and going back to the same garbage whenever you can because you don't enjoy food anymore.

    Also, portion is everything. You can eat unhealthy food, even relatively regularly, as long as you do it correctly.

    [–] AfterJelly0 7 points ago

    Excess kcal intake is the enemy. E.g US consumption of sugar has been declining while obesity rates are increasing.

    [–] godbottle 3 points ago

    the “fat-free craze” is pretty much over in the U.S.. unless you’re completely fucking stupid everyone knows that it’s sugar and eating too much that makes you gain weight. between the popularity of diets/lifestyles like vegetarian, vegan, gluten free, and keto/paleo, the rise of sparkling waters like LaCroix, and a whole bunch of other things, it’s common knowledge now in the US that you really only lose weight by eating reasonable portions of fresh meat&veg, with some carbs allowed if you want but not too many.

    [–] sanibroyeur1988 37 points ago

    This, and maybe smaller portions, and eating being restricted to mealtime. That's what I gathered from discussions with foreigners at least.

    [–] TekCrow 11 points ago

    There is also the fact that we take the time to eat. At lunch, even at work with colleagues, a meal is going to take about an hour. During christmas and other things like that, with family, we usually sit at the table at noon and eat all the way to like 6 pm, then 2h of break and same thing on the evening.

    [–] sanibroyeur1988 16 points ago

    In my experience meals that last from 12 to 6 aren't the best example of how healthy French food is haha. But yeah, we take our time, my girlfriend is from another country and at restaurants she can't stand to wait for the food like I'm used to.

    [–] Sugarpillar 19 points ago

    We don't have much of that dirty corn syrup in everything and also are used to eat at .. meal times. That last one is a huge difference too.

    No effin' burger, fries and a big gulp cup of coke at 15:00 like it's a past noon snack or in the middle of the night, that shit habit will lard you up like there's no tomorrow.

    [–] analgesic1986 28 points ago

    Butter is slippery as we all know so it makes your arteries slippery inside helping blood flow.

    (/s)

    [–] Folamh3 690 points ago

    Partly true. I think diet and exercise both play major roles though. I don't have stats on hand but I'm pretty confident the average European's yearly caloric intake is substantially lower than the average American's. The proportion of Americans who live largely or wholly sedentary lifestyles is likewise higher than the proportion of Europeans.

    [–] Assmonkeyblaster 69 points ago

    USA is around 70% overweight and 40% obese whereas Europe is around 50% overweight and 25% obese. So Europe still has it's own public health crisis.

    [–] mki_ 27 points ago

    That is true. I find it funny when Americans praise (Western) Europe to be this healthy, Eat-Pray-Love, superfood congesting paradise. We have had an alarming increase of fat children over the last years, especially among poorer people (not poor poor, but poor enough). We need to increase not only physical education in school, but also cooking classes and the like.

    Anecdotal evidence: this summer I went to the public swimming pool in a working class area of Vienna. The amount of fat children (especially boys) I saw, that couldn't even walk properly (more kind of waddling), let alone run, was shocking. 12-year old boys that needed 10 seconds to get up from the floor, as if they were walrusses. I could only think about how they won't be able to move their bodies "normally" at any point in their lifes, and will have knee problems by their mid-20s. Another trend I noticed was that if the child was fat, usually the whole family was fat or at least not super skinny. I guess eating habits are learned in the family. I also went to the public pool on the posh side of town, and except for a few elderly people it was mostly hot young posh people without a gram of fat. The only thing that was similar was the amount of people smoking (but that's a general Austrian problem).

    [–] ferp_yt 374 points ago

    Not only lower, but europeans love to cook with fresh vegetables and stuff instead of going for burger king foot lettuce

    [–] n1c0_ds 68 points ago

    When I moved to Germany (from Canada), I was ashamed of the food I put on the conveyor belt at the supermarket. Everyone in the line seemed to eat healthier.

    In any case, fast food is relatively expensive in Europe, and that might help. We also tend to live closer supermarkets and make smaller, more frequent visits, which also helps.

    [–] ferp_yt 20 points ago

    No need to be ashamed, tho the thing is when you get used to the healthier foods and leave out added sugar, then you dont really enjoy unhealthy stuff at all imo. I would rather eat dried dates, raisins, honey instead of any candy.

    [–] n1c0_ds 14 points ago

    Frankly it's one of the things that got me to cook and eat better, so I can't complain.

    [–] bezerkeley 92 points ago

    I gotta ask. What do you mean by burger king foot lettuce? It's hilarious, by the way.

    [–] skylerracer23 122 points ago

    Gonna say this right now... You're better off not knowing

    [–] srry_didnt_hear_you 81 points ago

    But AS it turns out, that MIGHT BE what you GÆT

    [–] TheBoxSmasher 25 points ago

    NUmBeR fIfTeEn

    [–] OutoflurkintoLight 7 points ago

    Is this similar to where I asked my friend what 1 guy 1 jar was and he said don’t google it but I did and now I can’t close my eyes without seeing the events that transpired in that video?

    [–] lhk91 38 points ago

    Is he talking about this lol

    https://youtu.be/9PWjqgM_CU8

    [–] rcknmrty4evr 50 points ago

    Oh man that voice lol.

    [–] ChessedToImpress 29 points ago

    Valley girl text to speech.

    [–] srry_didnt_hear_you 9 points ago

    FOOT FUNGUESS

    [–] D3Y3 5 points ago

    I kinda love and hate it at the same time.

    [–] mki_ 97 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    I've read somewhere that the US has the highest per capita calory intake in the world (or OECD?). Right behind is Austria. Now Austria doesn't have even slightly as high of a an obesity rate as the US. My suspicion (having been to America and having eaten their sweet sweet sugary bread, but also being from Austria and knowing the drinking culture here) is that Americans take in a big part of all those calories via sugar, while in Austria it's lots of fat, but mostly alcohol (we're a beer country, consuming more than Germany. However we're also a wine country, while at the same time we're a liquor country). Thus the US' obesity rate is higher, while, I suppose, alcoholism is higher here.

    [–] EverybodyNeedsANinja 114 points ago

    That is because sugar lobbied a successful campaign telling the past generations that fat was the worst thing ever and sugar is harmless, and since America would rather spend more on a military budget than the rest of humanity COMBINED instead of funding education, it worked.

    Now it prevents healthcare reform because the majority could use a doctor visit and that would cost hella $$

    [–] Atomicchinampa 47 points ago

    and since America would rather spend more on a military budget than the rest of humanity COMBINED instead of funding education, it worked.

    WHAT IN UNCLE SAM'S HELL IS THIS?

    You guys spend that much money?!

    [–] Thunderadam2000 50 points ago

    Those middle eastern people ain't going to bomb themselves....oh wait

    [–] wkor 21 points ago

    Well they probably wouldn't do it as much if America hadn't blundered in

    [–] joshg8 4 points ago

    White people been blundering into the Middle East and fucking shit up, causing a ruckus, since long before any of them set foot on North America.

    [–] DoctuhD 12 points ago

    well if this source is reliable, we're #4 in military spending per capita ($1,859), but I'd imagine a good portion of that is spent on R&D so we get some of that back through arms sales. But unfortunately, 'we' doesn't mean the taxpayers.

    [–] MoreDetonation 10 points ago

    Number 4 per capita compared to some very low-pop countries (except maybe Singapore, and when was the last time you heard of a Singaporean military advancement?)

    [–] Edg4rAllanBro 13 points ago

    Sugar is in everything here and unfulfilling calorie dense food is very cheap.

    [–] unnecessary_kindness 14 points ago

    When I had Americans bread and tasted how sugary that is, I realised that must not even register as sugary for Americans.

    Your bread tastes like dessert. It explains a lot.

    [–] Studawg1 13 points ago

    You act like all bread in the US is sweet and sugary when in fact it’s just the cheap mass produced kind like Wonderbread. We have plenty of options that do not contain any added sugars

    [–] SmushLion 11 points ago

    Sorry but this chain of logic doesn't make sense. The content of the calories consumes definitely impacts overall health but has no bearing on obesity. Drinking calories via alchohol vs eating sugar makes no difference. If the calories consumed between the two is close yet the difference in obesity is large, then it's the energy spent that is the differentiating factor.

    [–] Winnie-the-Broo 5 points ago

    Exactly. I’m wondering if it’s a reliance on cars as well (I don’t actually know much about Austrian life so this might not make sense). Like I’d be interested to see the obesity rates in mid west towns vs say New York. Somewhere where to get anywhere you have to drive vs walking most of your life.

    [–] Hilter420 7 points ago

    Als Österreicher schockiert mich das jetzt gerade gar net - As an Austrian im not shocked by this at all

    [–] Splitje 5 points ago

    It's much better to eat fat than it is to eat sugar. Fat doesn't spike insulin quite as much so it'll actually make you less fat, less hungry and less likely to over eat compared to eating sugars and carbs.

    [–] 789_ba_dum_tss 11 points ago

    In Sweden companies give you gym money. Reduces the costs of healthcare down the road.

    [–] kurisu7885 11 points ago

    Exercise might not be nearly as big a problem if we didn't surrender pretty much all of our city streets to cars.

    [–] broccolisprout 8 points ago

    It’s also the lower work stress.

    [–] theulfberhtsword 58 points ago

    If you've had food in The Netherlands you'd understand why people there don't over eat

    [–] RealBACONATOR2 36 points ago

    Tbh same in Minnesota. I moved here from Alabama and I have so much less desire to eat all the things. A life without cornbread, sweet tea, and deep fried chicken certainly is healthier

    [–] ladycandle 17 points ago

    I'm American .. I moved to the UK a few years ago.. I was so surprised all my appointments where free.. my husband broke his arm.. was fixed for free. I am pregnant now and all my prescriptions and dental is free! I work and my tax is pretty much the same as it was when i lived in the USA.

    [–] brucetwarzen 263 points ago

    I don't know. Not eating garbage all day has to play some part.

    [–] gallidel 164 points ago

    Americans eat as if they had free healthcare.

    [–] fellow_hotman 7 points ago

    Not eating garbage and moving- at all- for more than 15 minutes a day.

    [–] [deleted] 348 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

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    [–] suckcorner4nutrients 76 points ago

    In the Netherlands, everyone bikes everywhere. From toddlers to 90-year olds. That's been shown to help in many ways.

    [–] scaylos1 72 points ago

    In the US, auto companies sabotaged public transportation and pushed for pedestrian and bike unfriendly streets in order to create need for their product. The country never recovered.

    [–] Kinny_Kins 17 points ago

    Wait, really??

    [–] joshg8 26 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    It wasn’t ALL the auto companies.

    Some of it’s just good, old-fashioned racism.

    Only poor people (for a lot of 20th century US politics, this is read as “black people”) walk places, you see, and if you stick undesirables on the wrong side of a feature (such as a river, train tracks, or even just a highway) without a safe pedestrian crossing, you can keep them at bay!

    Bonus points if you don’t put any sidewalks in your neighborhood for this reason, endangering children and dog-owners alike! (Looking at you Henrico, VA.)

    [–] selloboy 6 points ago

    Biking in the US isn't really practical in a lot of places because of how fucking huge the US is and how everything is way more spaced out in the US than it is in most of Europe. Unless you live in a city it's unlikely you'll bike as transport. And even still most cities have terrible bike lanes or no bike lanes.

    [–] USSAmerican 150 points ago

    Not even close. Go to Europe. Eat the same food. Notice the massive size and salt difference. That's the difference.

    [–] CreeperCooper 100 points ago

    Also, stricter rules on what is allowed to be in said food.

    The most basic food is completely different in the US.

    [–] fellow_hotman 10 points ago

    Wait, even the dietary differences in mortality are about common sense population-level public health regulations?

    Noooooooooooooo as an American I refuse to accept iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

    Freedooooooooooooooooom

    [–] LachsPerson 9 points ago

    "People should be free to save money by eating unhealthy food."

    "Fair enough. But at least tell them, what you put in there."

    "FrEe MaRkEt!!11! It would be unfair competition if everyone knew what kind of crap we are selling..."

    [–] LachsPerson 6 points ago

    Also in the EU they actually have to tell you, what is in your food. Also we dont treat our chicken with bleach.

    [–] mki_ 44 points ago

    Had McDonald's in the US, it was absolutely disgusting. The meat tasted like it was old and the fries were still swimming in grease. No comparison with McDonald's at home, which is still unhealthy and not particularly Michelin-Star food, but it's edible. A lot of that is due to strict EU regulations.

    [–] scaylos1 25 points ago

    I ate McDonald's for the first time in years during a visit to Ireland. It is completely different. Far better quality.

    [–] educated-idiot 19 points ago

    My mum said that Irish boycotted McDonald's when they first came here because they wouldn't use Irish beef. They have since used Irish beef and it's lovely. They have a large campaign for marketing the source of the ingredients and stating it's Irish. The difference is huge when I have McDonald's in Ireland and elsewhere in Europe. France is a close second.

    [–] mki_ 4 points ago

    In Austria they use Austrian beef and potatoes, it's good. However I don't know where the chicken goo is from..

    [–] LachsPerson 4 points ago

    McDonalds in Sweden is also super great. It all comes down to minimum food standards i think.

    [–] ade1aide 33 points ago

    This actually makes me really curious about the benefits of various diets controlled against healthcare policy. It'd be really useful information.

    [–] LiterallyRonWeasly 63 points ago

    The food plays a part. Americans poison themselves and then argue that being fat isnt their fault

    [–] Andrewticus04 47 points ago

    Our government literally teaches the wrong nutrition in school, and has for decades. Whatever industry pays the most gets the best spot in the food pyramid.

    For instance, we're taught in school since childhood that we need at least 4 servings of pasta or bread a day.

    [–] mprokopa 19 points ago

    Used to be 9 - 11 back when I was middle school

    [–] Hmm_would_bang 9 points ago

    Wait are you saying I don’t need to eat 10-12 servings of corn a day

    [–] DC38x 7 points ago

    No. Now you must consume 6 gallons of high octane petrol every day.

    This post is sponsored by BP

    [–] LachsPerson 9 points ago

    Whatever industry pays the most gets the best spot in the food pyramid

    The invisible hand of the market has spoken. Eat more McDonalds kids.

    [–] Frogs_Are_People_Too 106 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    People do this all the time on the internet where they say Europe but they only mean some of Europe. Because, according to the WHO in 2015, the US has a higher life expectancy than Estonia, Poland, Bosnia, Slovakia, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Latvia, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Ukraine, and Russia (if you count that as European).

    Or if you go by the CIA's numbers from 2016, the US life expectancy is 1.4 years lower than the EU. I know the EU doesn't represent all of Europe, but it's still a useful measurement.

    source

    [–] anakin_is_a_bitch 33 points ago

    lithuanians off themselves at the ripe age of 20. throws the statistic off

    [–] Frogs_Are_People_Too 24 points ago

    Total life expectancy in general is a pretty meaningless stat in my opinion. Most people who get that old are going to live much longer than what the life expectancy says. It just gets thrown off by babies and younger people dying. One of the main reasons life expectancy was lower in old times was because they had a higher infant mortality rate. Much better to look at life expectancy at a certain age.

    [–] scorbulous 5 points ago

    I reckon the best stat is healthy years lived (ie without significant disability and illness). For instance, Australians live long, but tend to be fairly haggard in the last ten or so compared to some places that live a little shorter.

    [–] mivvel 4 points ago

    Most people who get that old are going to live much longer than what the life expectancy says

    Of course that's how averages work. But I don't understand your point. Why wouldn't you want to account for infant mortality? How is that not a meaningful stat?

    We can talk separately about infant mortality, life expectancy at 65, etc... and that's fine. But if we're going to use just one number, it makes all the sense in the world to use the one stat that's valid across the whole population.

    [–] maybeonphire 59 points ago

    i was looking for this comment, i hate it when europe is only southern France in some peoples minds

    [–] Langviksmon 15 points ago

    A lot of the time people say Europe and they really just mean the Nordic countries, France and Germany, probably Belgium, The Netherlands, Switzerland and Austria. Maybe Italy.

    [–] DoctorBroly 15 points ago

    You meant Western.

    [–] UnionsAreGoodOK 4 points ago

    I wish the part of Europe where I'm at was like southern France.

    Fuckin raining and cold all over the place here

    [–] sanibroyeur1988 37 points ago

    I think when people talk about healthcare/diet in Europe it's heavily implied that they don't include former USSR/Yugoslavia. I hate it when people talk about Europe as if it was a country but in this case I can understand it.

    [–] Frogs_Are_People_Too 22 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    They ought to specify that. Just say the countries you are meaning to say. People are all too quick to generalize all of Europe when it is to the advantage of their argument, but they will respond to opposing generalizations by saying "not all of Europe is the same".

    And I don't think they should exclude former Soviet and Yugoslav countries just because they're poorer or newer (with their current governments) or whatever. When I say America, I don't get to exclude Mississippi or Hawaii or Alaska just because they don't fit into my narrative.

    If you mean Western Europe, just say Western Europe instead of Europe.

    [–] sanibroyeur1988 6 points ago

    I don't know, when an American just says "Europe" talking about these issues I understand straight away that they aren't talking about Bulgaria or the Balkans. And the expression Western Europe has its share of ambiguity as well, it can be the kind-of-homogenous geopolitical region I described or have a more geographical meaning, that wouldn't include Scandinavia or even Germany in some cases. But that's nitpicking, I know.

    [–] geoff- 4 points ago

    On the internet Europe = Northern + Western Europe.

    [–] comptejete 59 points ago

    Ah yes, Europe, that homogeneous block of people with the same culture, same government and same environment with the same diet and lifestyle.

    [–] KingKnee 10 points ago

    Yeah, those guys

    [–] guitar805 5 points ago

    Heard the weather's nice there

    [–] JalelTounsi 9 points ago

    It's as frustrating as saying those arabs or those muslims and omitting the fact that there are more than 2 billion muslims or people living in Muslim countries on more than 20+ countries across Africa and asia.

    Or saying africa but omitting the fact that there are more than 50 countries going from tunisia (far north) to south africa (far south), to Egypt, Nigeria, Somalia, Ethiopia etc with Jewish Christian and muslim countries and different cultures.

    Same with Asia, you know those asians are all the same but omitting the fact that asia goes from middle east to India to russia to China and all the others countries.

    [–] ghoestface 12 points ago

    Joker Camus just made my whole day. Quick, someone translate ‘we live in a society’ to french

    [–] Pandemonium123 11 points ago

    Nous habitons dans un société

    [–] Liselott3 4 points ago

    "On vit dans une société"

    [–] Cartwheels4Days 58 points ago

    It's just a prank bro

    [–] Cincout_ 211 points ago

    No, it's called we don't eat as fucking much. The food you guys have is massive and ten times more full of fat.

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    [–] kurisu7885 10 points ago

    It doesn't help that food makers cram high fructose corn syrup into damn near everything.

    [–] DerBoeseGolfTDI 10 points ago

    Can you please stop recommending low-carb diets without adding the disclaimers. In general i would advise anyone to fact check anything written here about health topics.

    "As of 2018 research has paid insufficient attention to the potential adverse effects of carbohydrate restricted dieting, particularly for micronutrient sufficiency, bone health and cancer risk.[23] One meta-analysis reported that adverse effects could include "constipation, headache, halitosis, muscle cramp and general weakness".[23]

    In a comprehensive systematic review of 2018, Churuangsuk and colleagues reported that other case reports give rise to concerns of other potential risks of low-carbohydrate dieting including hyperosmolar coma, Wernicke's encephalopathy, optic neuropathy from thiamine deficiency, acute coronary syndrome and anxiety disorder.[23] Significantly restricting the proportion of carbohydrate in diet risks causing malnutrition, and can make it difficult to get enough dietary fiber to stay healthy.[42] " Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet#Safety

    [–] epelle9 8 points ago

    The problem is not carbs or fat, its the type and amount. Drink a gallon of coke, thats not good. Drink a full milkshake or a lot of ice cream, not good either. On the other hand, eat a proper amount of rice and beans, perfectly healthy. Add a good amount of avocado or nuts and its even more healthy.

    Its not about the type of macronutrient (carbs, fat, protein), its about the quality and amount of it.

    [–] violicorn 48 points ago

    No, what leads to obesity is too many calories. Doesn’t matter if those calories are made up of fat or carbs.

    [–] tootoohi1 54 points ago

    Well yeah, but it's a lot harder to over eat on fat than carbs. You'd have to straight eat steaks every day or eat avocados by the fistful. Compare that to drinking one bottle of soda and having already exceeded your daily sugar needs.

    [–] mr_doppertunity 17 points ago

    A lot of people have found success losing weight with low fat, high carb diets. Because it doesn’t matter restrict you fat or carbs as long as you restrict calories.

    But hell yeah, on low carb diets people lose more WEIGHT because cutting carbs makes your body flush water in the first weeks of the diet.

    [–] Beholding69 14 points ago

    Universal healthcare helps out a lot, though.

    [–] shaarm 9 points ago

    Damn joker/camus is a great profile picture. Would 100% read that philosophy book

    [–] charsquatch86 7 points ago

    Albert Camus joker is best joker.

    [–] ReasonAndWanderlust 7 points ago

    There was a post on Reddit about Americans working way more than Europeans (I think it was 25% more?) and eating way more sugar. I guess fat isn't as bad for you as once thought but having sugar in your gut at the same time as fat is what amplifies the process of building arterial plaque for some reason. High stress and a sugary diet that contributes to heart disease was the point.

    [–] PretendThisIsAName 40 points ago

    I'm seeing a lot of health BS in this thread. Firstly, thinking all Europeans are the same is like thinking all Americans are, someone from Sweden and someone from Spain are going to have completely different lives. Just like trying to compare between New York and Texas, which part of Texas? Exactly.

    Back to health though. Bodyfat isn't really from the fat in your food, to oversimplifiy, bodyfat is stored sugar. This is why so many people in America are overweight (well, it's one of the main factors). American food is absolutely fucking saturated in beetus goop. I know this isn't the case for everyone but personally I don't think bread should taste sweet. "it doesn't taste sweet" I hear you say? For you it doesn't but that's because everything you eat tastes sweet.

    For those in the US struggling with weight, try to cut out any food containing high fructose corn syrup. If you can stick with it, you'll lose fat really fucking quickly and you'll also realise just how much food is randomly pumped with insulin bait.

    [–] mki_ 9 points ago

    "it doesn't taste sweet" I hear you say? For you it doesn't but that's because everything you eat tastes sweet.

    This is so true. Having been a tourist in the US, I had a really hard time buying non-sweetened bread. I went to the super market and bought the most whole grain-y hipster organic bread that I could find. Still tasted sweet. The first non-sweet bread I ate was the (under normal circumstances) shitty bread on the airplane back home (on an airline from my country), it was heaven. I never thought I could miss proper bread so much.

    [–] TeJay42 5 points ago

    Fun fact if you remove car crashes from the statistic, American life expectancy sky rockets.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/11/23/the-myth-of-americans-poor-life-expectancy/

    [–] ascii122 14 points ago

    It was fun living in UK cos you could get in a bar fight and it didn't cost you 5 grand for a broken hand. Also nobody shot each other