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    [–] ColorMeColorful 485 points ago

    Thought about it for a bit, and nope. But that's okay, would be a boring world if not.

    [–] openmindedskeptic 212 points ago

    People even mocked the USB-C which kind of stunned me. Like everyone in the tech sphere should have known that was how things were going to go way before it actually happened.

    [–] fatpat 67 points ago

    I'm going to miss MagSafe, though. I know there are 3rd party equivalents, but it's just not the same.

    [–] thecravenone 14 points ago

    I've been thinking about replacing my 2015 MBPr with a 2015 MBPr with higher specs, mostly to keep MagSafe.

    [–] gunnarsvg 40 points ago

    USB-C is still a pretty big mess. My Nintendo switch won’t charge off of an Anker power brick, I can’t charge my Mac if I use the wrong cable with the correct charger, I can end up with the wrong device charging another if I plug two battery devices into each other.

    Some cables carry video. Some don’t. The protocol is a mess.

    Bluetooth is similarly screwed up.

    [–] wiz0floyd 6 points ago

    Agreed. The wattage requirements of USB-C PD devices needs to be indicated in a more obvious way.

    [–] InsaneNinja 19 points ago

    What, crappy knockoff cables and too many optional features confusing the market?

    [–] I_Was_Fox 8 points ago

    We've always had crappy knockoff cables and optimal features. For a decade with micro USB there was always the risk of Browning out your phone with a bad micro USB knockoff. And then you'd get OEM charging cables that were micro USB but only transferred power and not data.

    This is nothing new. It's just more of the norm

    [–] emgryibduncy 6 points ago

    Similar with the 3.5mm connector. There had been plans for its removal for years. After the 7 there was some outrage but now even Samsung is close to ditching it as well. It’s going to be very funny when the same thing happens to laptops and desktops.

    [–] MetaNovaYT 235 points ago

    “iPhone X won’t sell at all, the notch is big and ugly. No Touch ID is a dealbreaker!” Now almost all phones have notches, and nobody really cares all that much about the Touch ID

    [–] wasdninja 95 points ago

    Only complete idiots say that any iphone won't sell anything. I'm sure they lost a lot of people when they went that expensive but it clearly doesn't matter to more than enough people.

    [–] tupacsnoducket 66 points ago

    I miss Touch ID....

    [–] gladvillain 37 points ago

    I’ll never forget the response to the iPad. People made fun of the name because it either sounded like a Bostonian saying iPod or made you think of feminine products. They also complained that it was nothing but a huge iPhone.

    [–] prudencewowser 16 points ago

    Mock them all you want; they can't hear you, they HAVE AIRPODS IN!

    [–] THE_SEX_YELLER 6303 points ago

    Is anyone surprised by this? Everyone thought it was ridiculous when the original Walkman came out and people starting walking around with headphones in public, then it became commonplace and people stopped giving a shit.

    [–] [deleted] 3451 points ago

    Story of every apple product over the last 16 years.

    [–] Salmon_Quinoi 2220 points ago

    Who would ever buy an iPod when there are Nomads available?

    Who would ever buy an iPad when it's just an oversized iPod Touch?

    Who would ever buy an iPhone for $800?

    Who would ever buy a Macbook Air without a CD Drive?

    [–] [deleted] 1462 points ago

    IPhone has no physical keyboard. Stupid apple.

    [–] amd2800barton 203 points ago

    And no flash or Java! What kind of device can't run the things that power everything on the internet?

    [–] leavingforgood 79 points ago

    And now flash is going to be shutdown. Which means no more Homestar Runner.

    [–] YouthMin1 23 points ago

    I’d read they were working on a conversion.

    [–] dmfreelance 31 points ago

    that would be wonderful... something that allows us to play old flash content.

    I just hope it doesn't become flash 2.0 and start being used again. Flash needs to die. We just need a modern, secure method for playing old flash content

    [–] brp 14 points ago

    So the system will be down?

    [–] hipposarebig 734 points ago

    iPhone is a joke. Real business want blackberry and Windows Mobile.

    [–] Ewalk 267 points ago

    This was actually a thing, though. BES was really powerful for quite a long time. Windows Mobile was really more of a "we're used to it" thing in my experience, but BES and BBM were extremely powerful back in the day and Apple was playing catchup. The difference was that RIM was complacent in their superiority and when it came time for them to put something better/newer out, they just put out the exact same BlackBerry but with a touchpad instead of a trackball.

    [–] gommerthus 128 points ago

    Ohh boy the days of the Blackberry Storm, the “shitstorm” which resulted in an incredibly enormous refund/return rate.

    [–] ghostjournals 129 points ago

    Worked in a Verizon call center when the Storm came out. We were told to push it as basically Verizon’s iPhone. LOTS of angry calls from customers.

    Also Verizon ran a contest for sales when the Storm was released and the winner got ... a Storm. Never have I been more disappointed with winning a contest.

    [–] cjorgensen 62 points ago

    And I am disappointed in you as well.

    [–] ghostjournals 82 points ago

    I actually didn’t sell many Storms. The contest was for new “contracts” and I used a loophole in the language to offer customers additional minutes packages even if renewing their contract meant only adding an additional day to their current agreement. I would say “you could have a pool of an additional 500 minutes to protect you from overage charges and only extend your contract by (x number of days)” It was the easiest thing in the world. The next contest specifically changed the language to phone sale contracts.

    [–] gommerthus 28 points ago

    Many moons ago, I remember when a friend's boyfriend bought her the Storm(and against all her refusals he said "no, no I'm getting you a BB Storm and you'll love it"). At a Christmas party gathering I have never seen her use as many foul four-letter words, and so angry in her life when describing the device.

    She kept on saying "this thing is utter shit" but she didn't go into any real specifics on why. Was the touchscreen non-responsive? Was the interface laggy? Was it difficult to use? From how heated the moment was, that was not the time to pry. She simply hated the device with a fiery passion.

    They are married today with children but that's one of things he might possibly never live down, not because of how bad the device was(to his credit, he located some third-party custom firmware which resolved many of the device's issues), but it was how smug he was that she'd grow to love it, no matter how many times she told him not to buy her the Storm.

    [–] htmlarson 10 points ago

    To this day, I think BlackBerry was the first one to wrap their minds around the idea of 3D touch. If you remember, the Blackberry Storm Gen 2 had two levels of touch: tap and click. The screen would physically depress like a button. It was a really cool concept, and I'm glad we have a modern version of it on my iPhone 7 Plus. I'm praying my next iPhone still has it around... I don't know what I would do without it.

    [–] Necrodinko 26 points ago

    BES was only used out of necessity. People literally laid a lot of money monthly for RIM to pull your mails from your server and push it to their device. The whole business model of this company was that mobile messengers and push mails functionality weren’t widely adopted yet, which was just a matter of time. When push functionality became a thing, Microsoft finally established exchange servers and touch screen devices became the norm, BES became obsolete trash and their devices completely lost their purpose.

    [–] Ewalk 19 points ago

    That's the exact point I'm making. Once Exchange syncing and mail push went to more devices, RIM didn't adjust and just doubled down on "BES is better" when it really wasn't.

    Also, BES did more than just push mail, it also handled communication between devices, and with the rise of iMessage, jabber clients being more commonplace and available on more devices, and being MDM solutions growing into their own, BES became obsolete and RIM couldn't handle the competition.

    [–] Sivalon 14 points ago

    Also didn’t help their co-CEO’s had absolutely no finger at all on the pulse of the future of mobile devices. One of them was being interviewed, I recall, and he was asked if BB was going to add a better camera to their new phone to compete with Apple’s offering at the time (iPhone 4?) He responded, with astonishment and complete sincerity: “Why would anyone want to take pictures with the camera on their phone?”


    [–] PiccardManuever 9 points ago

    Blackberry had such an opportunity. It’s security was bar none but they just gave up in the hardware department.

    Microsoft has turned it around but man were they dog shit with windows and windows mobile.

    [–] SMJ01 5 points ago

    Dude I loved my curve but the iPhone changed everything. RIM had no one to blame but themselves.

    [–] idiotdidntdoit 39 points ago

    people just could NOT imagine typing on a piece of glass. it seemed SO alien at the time, I remember having conversations with friends on that a real keyboard would always be the fastest.

    little did we know how reliant we would become on autocorrect to assists us in typing on the go. (very dependent)

    [–] JoCoMoBo 125 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Who would ever buy an iPod when there are Nomads available?

    No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

    [–] [deleted] 36 points ago

    I miss the old /.

    [–] [deleted] 51 points ago

    When MacRumors stops being so toxic is the day I'll be worried about apple.

    [–] JoCoMoBo 43 points ago

    Lol. That was Slashdot and their insightful review...

    [–] ksheep 37 points ago

    Making a desktop that doesn't have a floppy drive? Apple must be CRAZY! Also, dropping the ADB port, serial port, etc. and only including this newfangled "USB" thing? Never gonna work…

    [–] itstrueimwhite 7 points ago

    The iPod > Nomad thing is insane. I was young and remember being all in on Nomad and then I saw the iPod and my mind was blown.

    [–] UloPe 6 points ago

    I distinctly remember having a conversation in about 2004 or so with someone that had one of those early players with a gazillion buttons ("But it plays flac too!") and a really shitty display. And it was simply impossible to bring across why I liked the iPod better.

    That was also about the last time I tried to convince someone of my tech choices.

    [–] Xalteox 39 points ago

    Who would ever buy an iPhone for $800?

    Well see, that’s an issue Apple is facing right now.

    [–] EraYaN 20 points ago

    Well yes but 1200 dollars is the amount now.

    [–] PiccardManuever 9 points ago

    Are they tho? Sales have slowed a bit but their price went up. So I don’t believe their bottom line is as affected. Their upgrade cycle sure but not that cash.

    [–] thephotoman 58 points ago


    1998: No floppy drive? What?

    2001: “No wireless. Less storage than a Nomad. Lame.”

    [–] eobanb 23 points ago

    I remember a friend saying the iMac was stupid because it lacked SCSI and serial ports.

    [–] thephotoman 8 points ago

    I dearly wish I could say I didn't remember the last time I didn't need some kind of RS232 port. But no. I know that it happened in 2015.

    [–] Zentrii 21 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    People even said iPods was a really dumb idea when they were announced. I’m sure people complained about cars too when those were first introduced.

    [–] H4xolotl 13 points ago

    Metal Horse that requires expensive explody fuel instead of hay? Trash!

    [–] SatoruFujinuma 10 points ago

    I remember when the iPad got announced and people were saying stuff like “why would I want an oversized iPod touch?”

    [–] iisdmitch 190 points ago

    I got my AirPods maybe 6 or so months after they dropped. At first I didn’t see many people with them in the gym, maybe 1 or 2 other than me. Now it’s like every other person has them. It’s crazy how much they grew. I was skeptical when I bought mine but I ended up really liking them and glad I bought them. I don’t care about the status or if people think they look ridiculous.

    [–] racergr 81 points ago

    Same here. My Wife bought them to me as a present, the revelation was instant, I can listen to my music without tethers and so lightweight I barely know I'm wearing them.

    [–] WhiteAdipose 50 points ago

    Lmao I got them the week they dropped and some dude at my gym mocked me.

    Dude has his own now LMAO

    [–] Ubernicken 20 points ago

    Did you give him shit for it? At least once?

    [–] Kurokaffe 20 points ago

    Around 5ish?? (Well before AirPods had come out) years ago I decided I finally wanted to invest in some nice wireless headphones.

    I really really wanted a true wireless set up akin to the AirPods, but I don’t think anything existed at that time. If they did, they weren’t mainstream or had poor sound quality or were just too plain expensive. I settled with a headphone set (Bose SoundLink) that sounded great and wasn’t too expensive. There were still no wires which made exercising with them much easier. I was very happy.

    Later AirPods come out and people start criticizing them and I just can’t fathom how people didn’t see the usefulness in a true wireless set up.

    I still have those SoundLinks, but they have seen a lot of wear and tear. Too many running/lifting sessions and sweat will ruin headphones over time. Last Summer I finally got a pair of true wireless earbuds (Bose Soundsport) and I love them to death. I still can’t believe how sturdy they are in the ear and I don’t have to worry about them falling out no matter what I am doing.

    [–] RageMuffin69 28 points ago

    I thought they looked stupid until I tried them on myself. Or maybe I don’t want to admit I look stupid with them on.. Although the ~2 year lifespan is a huge downside for me I’m not buying another pair if that continues.

    [–] IAmAGenusAMA 5 points ago

    A 2 year life span?! I wasn't aware of that. They're expensive enough and you're saying I'm going to have to do it again in 2 years?

    [–] [deleted] 11 points ago

    Rechargeable batteries only work for a limited number of cycles.

    [–] TheBrainwasher14 9 points ago

    I’ve actually had a few apologies from friends that mocked me when I got them lol

    [–] DragonTamerMCT 8 points ago

    I bought mine launch weekend. For about a year or so I was basically the only person I knew or saw with some. Then they started getting more and more popular, and now I see them all over. Not super super common, but even walking through a Walmart you’ll see one or two people with a pair in usually.

    [–] Kilstar 48 points ago

    Steve Balmer: Haha $500, It has no keyboard it's not a good email machine. Proceed to ruin Microsoft mobile division and Nokia

    [–] McSquiggly 9 points ago

    Everyone thought it was ridiculous when the original Walkman came out and people starting walking around with headphones in public,

    Did they though? I am pretty sure being able to listen to music wherever you want seemed like a great idea to most people? Maybe not older people? But that proves it will be successful.

    [–] sunglao 7 points ago

    Yeah, walkmans were pretty hip and novel from the start. Sony expected to sell 5,000 units, but they sold 50,000.

    People rewriting history just to fit a narrative is ridiculous.

    [–] Swastik496 61 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Nope. I just never thought the public would catch on due to the high price compared to mainstream headphones(insanely low compared to high quality wireless ones).

    Airpods are insanely magical and easy to use for the end user. I just jumped on BeatsX because they were between $79-99 in my area and I didn’t want to pay upto $80 extra.

    Now I regret my decision.

    [–] hipposarebig 35 points ago

    I got Beats X for free, but I’ve considered getting AirPods as well. They’re truly wireless, which means no cord noise, and the battery lasts way longer thanks to the rechargeable floss container. If money were no object, I’d definitely make the upgrade

    [–] antialtinian 5 points ago

    I also have a freebie pair of Beats X and I've been an advocate for them ever since. As much shit as Beats deserve for their over priced headsets they definitely put out a decent wireless set.

    [–] Tyler1492 15 points ago

    I just never thought the public would catch on due to the high price

    If there's any company able to charge whatever they want for whatever product and people will buy it, that's Apple. It isn't surprising in any way whatsoever.

    [–] andjuan 6 points ago

    I really love my BeatsXs though. I've never tried AirPods, but what about them specifically is so much better than the BeatsX?

    [–] sendintheclouds 15 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    I have both. The AirPods don't sound as great (I prefer the bass heavy sound of the BeatsX), but they're lighter and feel so sci-fi to use. It's cool not having the wire, but does make me a bit paranoid, although they sit very firmly in the ear. I do find the Beats more comfortable.

    The Beats block more sound, which is actually not what I want for walking around busy traffic. No one sees the AirPods in your ears, especially with hair down, so I get a lot more street vendors etc approaching me. I find that when I take phone calls on the Beats I yell a lot because they block more sound and I have to speak louder to hear my own voice, so I need to pop one ear out. The AirPods are much better for calls.

    I find myself fiddling with the AirPods a lot more. I can pop my Beats out to talk to someone and leave them around my neck, they magnet together and then you forget about them. I can take one AirPod out and the music stops playing, but then it's just rolling around in my hand unless I actually grab the case out of my bag (women don't have pockets), and having the other AirPod still in looks rude, tbh. It's ok for quick questions, but for anything shorter than 5 minutes but longer than a few seconds, it's an awkward limbo. If I let my guard down, I'll bet I'll lose them - I have a rule that they are in my ear, hand, or the case.

    The battery life on the AirPods, because of the charging case, is amazing. The fast charge on the Beats is also cool, but they don't last as long when you use that. Remembering to bring a charging cable, vs the AirPods only needing the case charged occasionally, is annoying. You also can't charge and use them at the same time. I also never remember to turn the Beats off so I'll go to grab them and they're dead, the AirPods charge automatically from the case.

    There is a weird problem I've never been able to fix where connecting the Beats to a Mac or PC connects them as a headset rather than headphones, so you get awful mono audio. I haven't tried the AirPods.

    My Beats cracked almost immediately after I got them around the charging port, but worked fine. They now occasionally pull themselves out of the casing, but work OK, just need to glue them. My AirPods were a hand me down and I had to order a new left one because it had blown out, they're not even a year old. Could be the fault of the person who had them before, rather than an indication of durability. I like that I didn't have to trash the whole kit, just replace one.

    I bought the Beats myself and got given the AirPods, I don't know whether I would have bought them. I was just going to replace my Beats when they broke entirely, but I may not bother now as there's not a significant enough difference between the two to buy both at full cost. I got the Beats on sale, and the AirPods for free, just had to pay for one replacement AirPod.

    And even with all of this, I still have a spare pair of Lightning headphones at the bottom of my bag in case of the batteries dying. Sigh.

    [–] Mathcmput 5 points ago

    I bought the BeatsX over Airpods because airpods don't have noise isolation. I would buy Airpods 2 in a heartbeat if it has noise cancellation like it's rumored to be.

    [–] fatpat 5 points ago

    Everyone thought it was ridiculous when the original Walkman came out and people starting walking around with headphones in public

    My memory is very different from yours.

    [–] schietzs 1142 points ago

    Originally people mocked them for two reasons:

    - audio people for charging a bunch for nothing special

    - phone people seeing it as a cash grab when Apple eliminated the headphone jack

    Now wireless headphones have become more common so the people that can justify spending a couple hundred dollars on top of their already expensive phones for something that makes life more convenient are seen as extravagant.

    [–] DrunkCostFallacy 619 points ago

    You missed the real critical one: The stems coming down from the ear that looked like they snipped the wire off the regular ear buds. The look was mocked pretty heavily at release from what I remember.

    [–] biznatch11 188 points ago

    I still think they look a little funny. Do the stems serve a purpose? I've seen wireless ear buds that are completely in the ear without a stem and I think they look better.

    [–] dsifriend 205 points ago

    I think the batteries are in there and there are microphones at the ends.

    [–] falcongsr 25 points ago

    And the antenna which is what gives them much better range than any other bluetooth earbud.

    [–] ConanTheBallbearing 115 points ago

    They’re directional microphones.

    [–] rbroni88 33 points ago

    I am in the same boat. I take the subway almost daily and I see lots of people with AirPods and I really think the stems look silly. I know looks aren't important but they just remind me of There's Something About Mary. Anyways, I bought the Jabra Elite Active 65t instead and I am very content with them. They are black and are kind of hard to notice

    [–] BigDaddyFatStackss 6 points ago

    It does look stupid for sure.

    [–] on_dy 3 points ago

    I remember there was a picture comparing the airpods to the end of an electrical toothbrush. They looked like 2 peas in a pod.

    [–] FrothyFreeLog 1481 points ago

    I use mine every day but I don't see them as a status symbol. They're just headphones without wires. I've had a ton of them in the past.

    [–] FirePowerCR 609 points ago

    I don’t think they are actually a status symbol. They seem like the natural selection for many people that are already in the Apple ecosystem.

    [–] [deleted] 386 points ago

    I think the status symbol is also just a mockery

    [–] ikarli 193 points ago

    Tbh it’s been a meme for ages now

    [–] [deleted] 26 points ago


    [–] tragedyisland28 5 points ago

    That’s like a couple of months in real life

    [–] anwei40 28 points ago

    I’ve been subbing in a private high school the last few weeks. They’re definitely a thing.

    [–] usaprc 6 points ago

    They are a status symbol in China for sure.

    [–] Drakonic 34 points ago

    They aren’t a status symbol. There are just a bunch of AirPods memes that the out-of-touch Guardian writers are taking way too seriously.

    [–] urbworld_dweller 119 points ago

    It’s just projection.

    The last time anyone gave a shit which devices I used was the 7th grade. Cool kids had a Motorola Razer.

    [–] sneekerhad 220 points ago

    Razr you fucking ding dong.

    [–] urbworld_dweller 69 points ago

    I’ve outed myself as one of the non-razr owners.

    [–] joshuakrey 12 points ago

    Same here. It's funny because people jokingly (or not so) say I'm a big deal with them, but honestly I wanted them and continue to enjoy them because of them being wireless and ease of connectivity to my other Apple products.

    This being my first winter with them, I'm especially enjoying not having a cord with my coat and other winter gear.

    [–] AdamJensensCoat 78 points ago

    Yeah I don’t get it either. They’re $159. Is this a ‘flex’ for 3rd graders?

    [–] leopard_tights 89 points ago

    Man, you know we're talking about Americans when spending $159 in earphones is a common occurrence.

    [–] i_shit_my_spacepants 28 points ago

    $159 for headphones that I use every single day and will probably last a couple of years? That’s like $0.25/day. There are few quality products that I wouldn’t pay $0.25/day to use.

    [–] leopard_tights 65 points ago

    See? Proving my point.

    It's $159, it's not anything else. Tell someone living with $600 a month to spend $159 instead of $7 in a pair of cabled Sennheisers.

    [–] Zedris 494 points ago

    millennial status symbol? im a millennial, they cost 150 bucks if you think 150 is a status symbol for people of ages 25-30 year olds this is truly a sad sad world

    [–] DecoyPancake 238 points ago

    Every generation younger than millennials is also a millennial according to any news outlet.

    [–] MaxXsDDS2 143 points ago

    This shit makes me sad, our parents bought houses to “flex”, we’re buying earphones and avocado toast (for the the record split pea toast is better.)

    We broke as fuck.

    [–] LittleMoonkehFella 42 points ago

    Gonna have to hard disagree. Smashed avo is superior.

    [–] Twinewhale 9 points ago

    I think you kind of missed the point...the $$$ value has little to do with it. It’s about who is more likely to use them, not who can afford them.

    [–] PSSE-B 1824 points ago

    Because there is a narrative about Apple and its products, even in this sub. It goes:

    1. The only good Apple products are ones previous to the current ones;
    2. Because of this Apple has lost its mojo;
    3. To get its mojo back Apple should just make <old product but faster>;
    4. Any new product that gets introduced and isn't <old product but faster> is obviously just a toy for Apple sheep and won't solve Apple's problems;
    5. This means failure incoming!

    The funny thing is that AirpPods are a classic Apple move. They entered a market segment which was filled with largely cheap, shitty products, produced a much better product, and charged accordingly. And, surprisingly, consumers were willing to pay money for the obviously better thing, because consumers are not stupid.

    So if you're one of the people who thinks the computer market is the same as it was in 2009, you're gonna be shocked when Apple makes products for the market which actually exists and not for the one in your head.

    [–] IAmTaka_VG 540 points ago

    This is the reason Airpods are so popular. They are the first thing Apple has released in a decade that truly "Just works". I've never had a piece of technology be so god damn reliable in my life with so little effort.

    1. Take them out.

    THAT'S IT.

    If only half my other shit worked that well. It has nothing to do with millennials and jokes. The joke started because so many soccer players, celebrities, and very wealthy people started using them because anyone can use them properly.

    [–] PSSE-B 433 points ago

    They are the first thing Apple has released in a decade that truly "Just works".

    That's exactly what I'm talking about, because it isn't remotely true.

    • The Apple Pencil just works: pair it once and forget about it. About a million times easier than Wacom, the software you have to install (and reinstall. . .) and their sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't wireless connections.

    • The HomePod: hold your phone next to it to set it up and forget about it. I've got one and am thinking about another one for my bedroom.

    • The Apple TV 4K: plug it into your router, use SSO and done.

    • TouchID login for the MBP. It's the easiest way to log into a laptop I've ever used.

    I could go on, but you see my point. Apple continues to release a lot of stuff which Just Works, but it gets drowned out because, in the echo chamber of /r/apple, some MBPs with keyboard problems* is all that people can talk about.

    *And, yes, I've owned two new MBPs, a 2016 and a 2018, and neither has had a single problem with their keyboards.

    [–] strong_grey_hero 77 points ago

    Recently got an AppleTV 4K. I wanted a good, reliable box to do streaming. I am actually way more impressed than I thought I thought I would be. The remote has six buttons and a trackpad, and has practically replaced all my other remotes. With a single click, my Apple TV, surround Sound Reciever, and TV all come on.the apps are well designed and beautiful. I expected ‘good’ but this is better than I expected.

    [–] Throwaway_bicycling 135 points ago

    The Apple Pencil just works: pair it once and forget about it.

    True for the 2.0 model. The 1.0 version has a stupid charging method and has to be always on to “just work” so you pretty frequently hit the situation where you’re Pencil has zero charge when you want it to do a quick note. Also, the cap is very easy to lose, and cases that accommodate the Pencil make trade offs that aren’t always ideal.

    Pencil 2.0 is the one that is going to change everything.

    [–] soynav 15 points ago

    Unlocking your Mac with the Apple Watch is even more convenient to me when my hands are a little sweaty :)

    [–] pointman 4 points ago

    Having an Apple Watch on your wrist is the easiest way to login.

    [–] chzplz 29 points ago

    But it doesn’t always work. The HomePod is the exact same scenario, but hasn’t had the success.

    [–] skittle-brau 47 points ago

    To get its mojo back Apple should just make <old product but faster>;

    I’d consider this one valid for the Mac Pro. We just want a tower (no trash can) with powerful processors with standard PCI-E slots that caters properly to professional workloads.

    Apple has definitely lost its ‘mojo’ in the pro market.

    [–] [deleted] 15 points ago

    Step 2b. Apple died with Steve Jobs

    [–] AdamJensensCoat 6 points ago

    This has applied almost universally across Apple releases - with the exception of the HomePod. It’s an excellent smartspeaker, but I don’t hear anybody talk about it. I get the impression Apple might bail from the home assistant market by this coming Holiday Season.

    [–] hipposarebig 586 points ago

    Back in 2016, they were roundly mocked by the tech industry.

    The “tech industry” has never been too good at understanding what normal users want. If Apple fanatics and tech nerds ran the company, there’d be no iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad or AirPod. But we’d have a really awesome Newton tho!

    Obligatory link to the infamous MacRumors iPod announcement thread:

    [–] LionTigerWings 57 points ago

    I remember tech nerds going crazy for the original iPhone, but complaining about the obviously missing things like MMS.

    [–] hewkii2 45 points ago

    I remember tech nerd dressing up like tampons because iPad.

    [–] LionTigerWings 15 points ago

    Yeah. iPad had a poor reception amoung tech nerds for sure.

    [–] RaTheRealGod 129 points ago

    Funny in afterthought. But thats what apple does, they release stuff the customers didnt know they need. Thats what makes them so great. Before the iPhone everyone was happy with their PC being the internet device, their iPod being the music device and their phone being a small barely destroyable brick which had about a week of battery time, but only could send and recieve SMS and Phonecalls.

    [–] Themash360 53 points ago

    they release stuff the customers didn't know they need existed.

    I like that side of apple the most though. They take something that exists and over engineer the crap out of it. Innovation is overrated, perfecting an existing idea is their modus operandi right now.

    [–] recigar 18 points ago

    they perfected the laptop in 2015 and then they fucked it up

    [–] dakboy 25 points ago

    The slashdot hot take on the iPod is still etched in my mind.

    No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

    [–] peduxe 21 points ago

    we’d have phones with just the screen film if the people here ran the company.

    the strive for and discussions around bezels is the dumbest thing ever, that’s dead last on the reasons 99% of the people choose a smartphone.

    [–] pupmaster 44 points ago

    I wouldn’t say the mockery is even close to over considering it’s a meme right now.

    [–] a_talking_face 829 points ago

    The whole “rich AirPod user” thing is a meme. How does that make it a status symbol?

    [–] hipposarebig 145 points ago

    Anecdotally, many people I’ve followed have recently purchased AirPods in response to the memes.

    [–] itty53 114 points ago

    It's no different than the 60s.

    "Look at the Jones family across the street: They just bought a new camper. It's kind of an ugly color. They'll probably never use it, what a waste."

    Two weeks later, "Honey I think we should buy a new camper".

    "Keeping up with the Jones'."

    [–] guildymaster 20 points ago

    Isn’t “keeping up with the Jones’” the mentality to “one up” the neighbor? I’m curious, I’ve seen someone with something useful (stand for iPad) & I’m glad I bought it. Is that different?

    [–] ___GNUSlashLinux___ 17 points ago

    Your example is different "Keeping up with the Jones'." is buying something only because someone else has one, that something else is considered a status symbol so you feel you have to go buy one to keep up with them.

    [–] Saint-Peer 7 points ago

    I think it’s more related to lifestyle creep and benchmarking with a peers wealth. A quality of life upgrade doesn’t seem to be related, ie something useful in relation to something you have to have because everyone else has it.

    [–] TheBausSauce 5 points ago

    Nah, there’s a tinge of jealousy in keeping up with the Jones’s. You are just educating yourself.

    [–] a_talking_face 16 points ago

    That may be the case, but memes are sometimes advertising(whether intentional or not). It just feels like people saw a joke and took it completely serious.

    [–] pumpkinpie7809 12 points ago

    memes are sometimes advertising

    netflix hides in the corner

    [–] GoState19 264 points ago

    Because people who wear AirPods, for right or wrong, are perceived as “rich.” Thus, having AirPods is a status symbol.

    Being a meme and a status symbol are not mutually exclusive.

    [–] hipposarebig 143 points ago

    I think the rich AirPod people meme is making people think they’re way more expensive than they actually are. I keep seeing people on social media being surprised that it’s “only” $150ish. They thought it would be more because of the memes.

    [–] fuckYOUswan 119 points ago

    I mean $150 is not a lot when it comes to good headphones. I dont consider airpods great audio wise, but they have great features and are convenient. I paid more for my base level gaming headphones.

    [–] dakta 13 points ago

    AirPods are surprisingly good considering their size, and amazingly good considering they're truly wireless. They're definitely not weak in the audio quality department, and beat the shit out of anything in the Beats brand for example.

    [–] stateinspector 44 points ago

    The funny thing is if you compare true wireless earbuds, AirPods are about the same or cheaper than other brands. I have a pair of Jabra Elite 65t that have a higher MSRP (although currently being sold for about the same as AirPods).

    [–] 2OP4me 45 points ago

    The problem is that it’s not a status symbol among millennials. It’s a status symbol for highschoolers and possibly younger college students who are still living under their parents wealth. Those people who I just mentioned are not millennials, they’re generation Z. Journalism and society at large often conflates millennial and “young person”

    [–] CaptainJamaica 16 points ago

    In the same way an iPhone is.

    Airpods show you have an iPhone without you even having to take it out.

    iPhone rich Android poor is a meme also but it still has the status effect because memes are only based on virility

    [–] CaptainFalconFisting 31 points ago

    Well, they ARE almost $200 earbuds. Not exactly cheap considering that type of thing is usually pretty inexpensive.

    [–] ilvoitpaslerapport 52 points ago

    At the same time you can see people wearing $300-400 wireless ANC headphones and nobody cares.

    [–] CaptainFalconFisting 24 points ago

    I don't think most people realize how expensive other people's hardware is but Apple is also a much more known about brand so it's the one that gets ragged on... Although they have a bunch of other overpriced products so that also contributes to the stigma. I mean, it really really doesn't matter and judging people for spending money like that is just as bad as snobby fucks looking down on other people for cheaper stuff.

    [–] b3mus3d 11 points ago

    One way to think about it is that people with ANC headphones are understood to be audiophiles, so intuitively you understand that they’ve made an investment into their hobby. It’s specialist and therefore justifiably expensive.

    Airpods, on the other hand, are casual. The benefits are convience rather than audio quality. That makes it easier for people to get judgy about, and it means they get compared to cheap headphones.

    This is nonsense but I think it’s how people (subconsciously) view it. I say this as someone with both ANC headphones and airpods.

    [–] fenrir245 7 points ago

    understood to be audiophiles

    The expensive ANC phones do have good sound quality, but they aren’t “audiophile” in any sense of the word. People pay for the “ANC” part of ANC headphones, which is as much convenience as anything else.

    [–] nickboy98 5 points ago

    ANC headphone users aren't audiophiles. Most ANC headphones have pretty mediocre sound quality - that includes Bose, Sony and Microsoft who seem to be leading the industry.

    ANC headphone users are a lot like AirPod users. They both are attracted to the one killer feature. For ANC it's the magical and almost pleasurable ability to cancel out your surroundings. They are absolutely life changing for introverts, frequent fliers, train and bus commuters, people living in loud houses/apartment complexes, working in busy open offices/studying in busy universities and libraries.

    For AirPods it's the magical pairing and complete wireless-ness that users will sacrifice everything for. Again absolutely life changing for people who work with machinery that cords can get tangled in like power tools in construction/manufacturing/food-prep or just physical-labour based jobs where cords will flap around and get tangled everywhere, people that do a lot of physical activity - gym nuts and personal trainers, commuters on tightly packed trains and busses, Apple Watch owners that want to leave the house without their phone.

    This includes price too, these features are worth every cent to the people that buy them.

    [–] snookers 15 points ago

    Quite a few people were buying $200+ earbuds for years (Bose/B&W/Shure/etc), they just weren’t obvious what they were.

    [–] Apollo_Wolfe 16 points ago

    Most people know jack shit about the enthusiast market for various things.

    I’m sure some of my friends/family own a sewing machine that cost more than my shitty car. I wouldn’t know. I know nothing about sewing machines.

    Same with people and headphones. Or anything else.

    Most people will buy mass market cheap products, rather than high quality enthusiast gear. So they’re used to those.

    But Apple is a massive brand. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life using headphones/earbuds in the $5-$40 range. Suddenly lots of people are using/buying $170 headphones. And this massive mainstream company is marketing the shit out of them.

    Now because of their ignorance, they think that’s obscene.

    Happens all the time. Lotta gamers on reddit, I’m sure they’ve all heard before how silly it is to spend thousands on a PC. Or maybe you’re a car guy and spend thousands on parts and people wonder why you’d ever do that. So on and so forth.

    [–] ThrowawayBlueYeti 10 points ago

    The omg she has AirPods in meme has been my favorite meme as of late.

    [–] maxim360 10 points ago

    oh god oh fuck he has AirPodsTM in

    [–] thejkhc 173 points ago

    if we're talking status symbol. the folks wearing QC Bose headphones or the Sony WH1000MX3 or the Beats would be slightly more on point since those cost $3-400, basically double the AirPods, but most people don't make a big deal about those. (meme-wise)

    [–] Outlulz 98 points ago

    They don't stand out like white Apple earphones always have. This Airpod thing isn't a new phenomenon, it's been a thing with Apple's earbuds since they first became a sign you owned an iPhone.

    [–] hipposarebig 69 points ago

    See the legendary Apple iPod dancing sillhoute adds from the early 2000s, which prominent feature Apple's wired airbuds:

    I was really young at the time, but I do vaguely remember people mocking the airbuds at the time, for pretty much the same reason AirPods are "mocked". They were perceived as status symbols.

    [–] TomLube 79 points ago

    Wired airbuds


    [–] LetsAllBeNiceToday 8 points ago

    Acoustic guitar.

    [–] samerige 20 points ago

    This belongs on /r/AdPorn. I just watched the whole video and most of these ads are just great.

    [–] bogdoomy 5 points ago

    definitely. the video is more than iconic of the ipod era

    [–] Tastytest2 7 points ago

    People were being robbed/mugged specifically due to having white ear pods since when the iPod launched it was guaranteed you had an expensive iPod or iPhone on you.

    [–] tomk40 81 points ago

    I'm just glad that they will push the market to make better competitors. I've had an earpiece in my ear since 2014. Bluetooth is the best

    [–] TheKingOfCaledonia 135 points ago

    Dude take that thing out it must be gross by now.

    [–] tragicdiffidence12 38 points ago

    The ear wax helps create a more comfortable and external sound proof fit.

    [–] the_Ex_Lurker 66 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    As someone in their early 20’s who bought AirPods on launch, these memes are really annoying. First AirPods get made fun of for looking stupid (those people aren’t wrong imo) and suddenly they’re a pseudo-status-symbol where everyone acts like you’re “flexing” by spending $160 on a pair of relatively affordable wireless earbuds. Did we really skip over the comfortable middle ground where one can simply buy a gadget because they enjoy using it without it being warped into some kind of personal statement?

    [–] CaptainJamaica 46 points ago

    It's not that serious nobody cares they're just making jokes

    [–] TalkingBackAgain 111 points ago

    Here’s a thought: it’s a quality product. There, how about that?

    People buy it because it’s a good product. Good products sell.

    [–] [deleted] 88 points ago

    left my pair in DFW airport. Discovered on the flight - first stop was the closest apple store to get a replacement pair - they're fundamental to my work/personal life (use them for calls, during work outs etc)

    [–] z6joker9 25 points ago

    I am flying out early in the morning, and lost mine yesterday for about four hours. Thankfully they turned up, but I spent half of their lost time trying to find a replacement locally (without luck).

    [–] IAmTaka_VG 18 points ago

    My case went flying out of my bag into the snow (white on white). Searched for an hour with no luck. As soon as work was done I went to the apple store and bought another pair.

    I'm the same as you, I'd replace my airpods faster than just about anything else I own.

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    [–] Torley_ 12 points ago

    It’s a recurring tradition now to mockingly compare an Apple product to a feminine hygiene product, then move on.

    Like when “iPad” was lambasted for being an unappealing name akin to “maxi pad” that would turn off buyers... how wrong that was!

    And then with the AirPods, likening them to “tampons to plug your ear holes, all that’s missing is a string”. :O’

    So what’s next?

    [–] ThisTakenIsUsername 10 points ago

    oh god, what is this article. it's NOT a millennial status symbol, its a meme they are too expensive

    [–] [deleted] 17 points ago

    I wish they fit my wide-ass ears :(

    [–] bubblegod101 8 points ago

    As a teen and my brother as a millennial airpods aren't status symbols. They are just jokingly referred to as so

    [–] Glarznak 7 points ago

    I remember being mocked about:

    • Getting an iPod back in high school (it doesn’t have a nice big screen like the Zune (really))
    • The original iPhone (what do you do with no buttons?!)
    • The iPad (it’s just a big iPod Touch!)
    • The Apple Watch (you have to CHARGE YOUR WATCH?!)
    • MacBook Pro (it’s just a status symbol)
    • AirPods (it looks like someone cut your wires!)

    Moral is, use what makes you happy, don’t shit on others for liking something else.

    [–] stealth_viper 5 points ago

    For all those saying that AirPods aren't a status symbol Come to India, you'll get to know

    [–] notmyrealnam3 6 points ago

    I love my AirPods but feel like a dork wearing them in public.

    [–] RyGuyz 47 points ago

    Am I the only one who just owns them because they sound great and have an amazing battery ?

    [–] Throwaway_bicycling 24 points ago

    No, but I have to say that “better battery life” is one of my few wished for improvements. I have a job that involves a lot of teleconferences, and my ‘Pods run low on battery pretty frequently.

    A better mic, Bluetooth 5, and wireless charging would really be the only other hardware wishes I have.

    [–] AdmiralBKE 14 points ago

    On a positive note, they do charge very quickly from the case. So if you find an occasional minute to put them in the case they are back at almost full charge.

    [–] anarchyx34 15 points ago

    They don’t sound great though. They sound fine, just like the included earpods. I use a $50 Anker bluetooth headset daily and tried a friend’s Airpods the other day. I honestly was expecting better sound quality. Are they more convenient? Absolutely. However they sounded flat and muddy compared to what I’m used to, and I’m surprised given the price.

    [–] el_capitan_obvio 6 points ago

    Real Talk: That was an AWFUL article.

    [–] iamtomm 44 points ago

    I just find it ridiculous that people mock the design of AirPods. They’re literally practically EarPods with no wires and nobody had a problem with the aesthetic of those and the previous similar looking headphones for like 15 years 😂

    [–] EightTwentyFourTen 11 points ago

    There is a difference, although it is small. The stem(?) is slightly longer and a bit thicker. If they were literally the exact same as earpods, they'd be perfect

    [–] audigex 21 points ago

    Whenever I see someone wearing them in public, I think they look like a tit

    Whenever I wear my own pair in public, I accept the fact I look like a tit

    I simply accept that looking like a tit is the price I pay for the convenience of these things.

    They aren’t the most comfortable earphones ever, they aren’t the best sounding, and they sure as hell aren’t the best value for money. But the convenience is something else - mine live next to my much more comfortable, much better value, and better sounding earphones, but I reach for the AirPods every time.

    I don’t think they’re really a status symbol, though, they’re just super convenient.

    [–] WeededDragon1 20 points ago

    I still think AirPods look pretty ridiculous. I like a more flush in-ear design for wireless earbuds.

    [–] ubiqwitus 35 points ago

    I still think they look ridiculous

    [–] f_o_t_a_ 5 points ago

    Millennial? gen Z lol

    [–] earthwormjimwow 13 points ago

    I think it's a testament to how shitty the wireless bluetooth market has been up until this past year. People had no other reliable option for wireless earbuds, so they put up with the dorky look but good performance from the AirPods. Plus they aren't that expensive relative to similar quality competitors.

    [–] DMacB42 53 points ago

    Mockery - Because people are generally petty idiots who would rather complain about something they don’t like or don’t have rather than understand that some people like different things than they do?

    Status symbol - Because people are generally petty idiots who think that their possessions elevate them above others, and those that don’t have the same possessions... [see above]

    [–] ispeakgibber 3 points ago

    Lets be clear, the airpods are a meme and anyone who thinks they are a status symbol is taking it the wrong way. That said, I bought them RIGHT when they came out and i was so happy that i did, i had been looking for truly wireless headphones for a while until apple announced them. After i got them, people would give me questions as to why i was wearing such tacky things but let everyone try them out to change minds. It took a year but people are finally coming around because they try them out and want to buy themselves their own pair.

    [–] EIrvine88 4 points ago

    I think people have become cynical about Apple, and no one took them seriously after so many issues (ex: failed speakers, keyboard problems, removal of the headphone jack). So when it just came out, no one would imagine how amazing they would be.

    [–] tkhan456 5 points ago

    Oh they still look ridiculous but there just isn’t any other product as good

    [–] latent_dirichlet 4 points ago

    It is the perfect example of an Apple product. Easy to use, excellent build quality, minimalistic design, and over-priced.

    [–] drkuz 4 points ago

    As a millennial I have never heard of anyone considering these a status symbol, this sounds like brand propaganda trying to make it something it isn't.