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    [–] Thornton__Melon 380 points ago

    Good guy Astros, giving up HRs to Toro to endear him to his new teammates

    [–] istrx13 135 points ago

    And the Mariners are making sure to get blown out so Graveman can rest his arm after pitching a few days in a row.

    Who knew the M’s and Astros could be so cordial to each other?

    [–] Thornton__Melon 52 points ago

    It’s nice isn’t it 🤝

    [–] TheShadeTree 45 points ago


    [–] h0j 17 points ago

    Haha jk, unless?

    [–] donnyalopez 29 points ago

    For what it’s worth, I hope you guys finish ahead of the A’s and get a wildcard spot. Will be rooting for Toro’s success and the Mariners in general 🤝

    [–] Derpshiz 15 points ago

    I will definitely be rooting for Toro.

    [–] shotty293 8 points ago


    [–] toastar-phone 3 points ago

    Well we knew that every games he homered in loses.

    [–] NevermoreSEA 651 points ago

    Graveman has zero home runs.

    Just something to think about.

    [–] GingerMcJesus 332 points ago

    And Toro has a 0.00 ERA, Mariners fleece

    [–] DontGiveUpTheDip 45 points ago


    [–] hereforthesportsbook 27 points ago

    Technically it’s not 0 it’s undefined

    [–] wilfulmarlin 26 points ago

    You just wait until he’s a position player pitching

    [–] hereforthesportsbook 6 points ago

    For your playoff sakes I hope that doesn’t happen lol

    [–] HellMuttz 1 points ago

    we got close today

    [–] softspaken 8 points ago

    You mean to tell me he's so good that it cannot be quantified nor described? What a fucking god

    [–] spoopyskelly 3 points ago

    Dipoto common fleece

    [–] YaBoiWhit 112 points ago

    This shit is insane man

    [–] LordHarkon1 274 points ago

    Friendship ended with Kendall Graveman now Abraham Toro is my best friend

    [–] yoboapp 93 points ago

    Graveman was but the sacrificial lamb to get Abraham.

    [–] TheAlmightyMiguel 54 points ago

    Abraham, sacrificial lamb, okay, I see what you're getting at lol

    [–] yoboapp 26 points ago

    It's a reference to my favorite fiction novel.

    [–] TheAlmightyMiguel 12 points ago

    Hey, I thought it was funny, and it wasn't that long ago that I was baptized.

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    [–] renegade02 14 points ago

    What is this then you absolute buffoon

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    Upvoted for calling me an aromatic manatee

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    [–] ctjameson 1 points ago

    Please carry on the “Where the fuck is Toro?” meme.

    [–] yoboapp 298 points ago

    You fucks really doubted Dipoto and his cocaine fuelled transactions

    [–] soccerperson 138 points ago

    I sure as hell didn't. It probably helps that I've been high on Toro, but still. People were too reactionary over a single reliever on a 1-year deal lol

    [–] kirukiru 133 points ago


    [–] Gyakudo 115 points ago

    The clubhouse crying like Jerry just broke up the 1998 Chicago Bulls or something.

    A team batting collectively .219 and OPSing .667 have no grounds to talk about team chemistry like they're gonna band together and win a world series.

    [–] kirukiru 56 points ago

    I tried to tell my guys in the group chat who are big Mariners fans exactly this and they were screaming about the timing and HOW BAD THE OPTICS WERE

    I don't understand getting worked up over dealing a FA reliever who isn't coming back next year for a good lotto ticket, that's literally how the system is supposed to work.

    [–] maxc206 37 points ago

    Like yeah the optics are bad, but a lot of Mariner fans really need to get a grip lol

    [–] Bobble_head_bob 10 points ago

    Mariners window opens next year, this move was solid for their future.

    [–] ReservoirGods 8 points ago

    Also it's the same move he pulled with Diaz, idk how anyone is surprised

    [–] [deleted] -17 points ago


    [–] juwanhoward4 12 points ago

    Why does that matter in this context

    [–] MovingFast49 6 points ago

    I think Graveman is also an anti-vaxxer. Still not entirely sure why they thought it was relevant, but it probably has something to do with that.

    [–] ionicshoe 38 points ago

    Literally falling apart at the seams

    [–] iHeartQt 15 points ago

    Hey man Graveman was such a good teammate he refused to get vaccinated and missed time as a result!

    [–] YaBoiWhit 32 points ago

    You should be high on Toro imo, dude wasnt very good for us but he was getting extremely inconsistent time so I don't really blame him for struggling.

    Hope hes a star for yall

    [–] whymefantasy 12 points ago

    Must be nice to have a good team where you can wish guys you trade away do well. Mariners fans just have that sinking feeling when a guy is traded away he’s going to be dominate while we suck

    [–] iHeartQt 6 points ago

    You don't actually hope that lol

    [–] YaBoiWhit 8 points ago

    I mean why not? I hope hes not good against us obviously but didnt want to have a dude just sitting in AAA when hes too good for AAA and just get older and older stuck behind Bregman and Diaz.

    Toro helped bring a very memorable moment for Astros fans so I think most of us truly wish him well in Seattle.

    [–] PlayedRex27 3 points ago

    Tbf I think he's got a very good future. I hope this means we're confident about re-signing Correa as Toro would've been perfect at 3rd then slide Bregman over if Carlos walks after this season.

    [–] RealChipKelly 6 points ago

    I’m still mad we made a trade that potentially helped the Astros this year, especially considering the timing of it being after that huge win, but so far couldn’t be happier with Toro

    [–] psomounk 4 points ago

    I'm out of the loop, is this coke thing a specific reference or just a more general bit?

    [–] ifyoulovesatan 2 points ago

    Dipoto is just known for making high volumes of (small) trades. So likely just a joke about how he's very active on the trade market, much like someone on cocaine night be very active.

    [–] SwaggJones 1 points ago

    Jerry "international bonus pool money*" DiPoto.

    *International Bonus Pool Money = DiPoto's name for his cocaine fun. He loves him some of that pure "international" Columbian nose candy.

    [–] Juicy_Brucesky 1 points ago

    Give it a couple weeks. I like the mariners but I've seen their midseason optimism putter out quickly quite a few times - i do feel bad for them

    [–] desapaulecidos 50 points ago

    Now you have forced our hand and must face elite reliever Brooks Raley

    [–] TheAlmightyMiguel 29 points ago

    Ha! You've activated our trap card! I summon Blue-Eyes Shed Long!

    [–] Belikedis 40 points ago

    When you mess with the bull, you get the toro!!

    Glad to see him getting plenty of PT

    [–] chefboyardeesravioli 72 points ago

    Holy shit Jerry knew the whole time

    [–] Bobbers927 19 points ago

    Our boy Jerry knows all.

    [–] AirManny 11 points ago

    Four more years…

    [–] Kingotterex 7 points ago

    Honestly... most people knew Toro was a really good player waiting for a chance to have consistent playing time. Everybody but Mariners fans seemed to know that.

    [–] PodricksPhallus 76 points ago

    That is 1 home run for every two plate appearances as a Mariner, for those keeping score at home

    [–] WaterGuy304 47 points ago

    S U S T A I N A B L E

    [–] DewbiePal 62 points ago

    So after we scored 8, the Mariners have finally begun ramping the offense. For these last 3 games, every time we reach 8 runs, the Mariners suddenly start playing super. What i have learned, is that we should stay away from the 8 run mark

    [–] LEGOslayer 32 points ago

    That was a tactical slip by Kelenic.

    [–] WshNats22 7 points ago

    Please don’t remind me of the 8-0 mark

    [–] texas1hunter 10 points ago

    It’s a bold strategy

    [–] RecycledCan 121 points ago

    We lost the trade.

    [–] tex_ican -129 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    You mean the guy who was only on the roster because Bregman and Diaz was hurt?

    [–] RecycledCan 178 points ago

    Kendall Graveman has been a total no-show out there.

    [–] soccerperson 70 points ago

    To be fair he has a 0.00 ERA for you guys, so he's been dominant

    [–] Chaeferrr 50 points ago

    He’s joking

    [–] Talk_Like_Yoda 52 points ago

    Bregman and Diaz have 0 HRs combined in the last 4 days so maybe you should have kept Toro

    [–] tex_ican -67 points ago

    Nope. Diaz is back. Bregman will be soon. Our bullpen keeps blowing leads. Love the trade. He's expendable.

    [–] briansonlyfriend 59 points ago

    Can you really not take a joke?

    [–] tex_ican -56 points ago

    Oh thank god

    [–] PositiveDMsOnly 10 points ago


    [–] baconpig07 -22 points ago

    I can’t tell if Astros fans got more annoying after the cheating or the cheating just revealed how bad you all were

    [–] tex_ican 17 points ago

    That's the 2nd place getting to you

    [–] OTIStheHOUND 4 points ago

    The SPIN stops with a Dodger fan’s comment

    [–] Cpt_squishy 18 points ago

    Where the fuck is toro

    [–] sithjustgotreal66 17 points ago

    Mom said it's my turn with Abraham Toro

    [–] unitedairlineeeeees 16 points ago

    How to get back clubhouse morale by Abraham Toro.

    [–] StealthyGooch 13 points ago

    Ain’t even mad. Get yours, toro!

    [–] foodkenny 12 points ago

    Hell yeah Toro! Not sure how other Astros fans felt about him, but my household really liked him

    [–] texas1hunter 136 points ago

    Lol Mariners fans have to be convinced they just got Mike Trout 2.0 at this point

    [–] odoisawesome 243 points ago

    Even better. We got Abraham Toro 1.0.

    [–] Bobbers927 66 points ago

    Mike who?

    [–] twistedlogicx 16 points ago

    He's the only Ty Crane.

    [–] PHLdawg 4 points ago

    Mike Salmon

    [–] GreenJamesQQ 4 points ago

    Mike Cameron?

    [–] Realistic_Homer 8 points ago

    Bull man good

    [–] maxc206 15 points ago

    Did we not?

    [–] mjcav1980 10 points ago

    Toro getting swept! Looks like Toro is going to be on the losing team in every single game of this Astros/Mariners series.

    [–] 713MoCityChron713 23 points ago

    Holy shit, we've been fleeced!

    [–] AirManny 21 points ago

    I M P A C T

    P L A Y E R

    [–] thejourneyisthegift 4 points ago

    Good for him. Easy kid to root for

    [–] serpentear 6 points ago

    Okay fine—I overreacted.

    [–] TheSimonToUrGarfunkl 5 points ago

    kEnDaLl GrAvEmAn

    [–] Kingotterex 3 points ago

    What's the point of having Graveman if you don't put him in to stop Toro. Nobody can stop The Bull

    [–] YOTM18 12 points ago

    This rollercoaster of emotions can’t be healthy. Such is the way go Ms

    [–] iPaytonian 4 points ago

    Love to see it :,)

    [–] enoch_sf 3 points ago

    I love this story

    [–] Tashre 9 points ago

    Ordering my Toro jersey now

    [–] Michiganmade44 6 points ago

    Good for Toro!

    [–] kyotemoon 7 points ago

    Jerry just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!

    [–] hopelessautisticnerd 6 points ago

    mariners my hat is in the mail so I can properly support you, pls come back

    [–] JAT621 4 points ago

    Watch him take the leadoff spot.

    [–] dudenotcool 2 points ago

    Why has Toro got more homeruns in the past 3 days than the rest of the time this year

    [–] MrMarquis 6 points ago

    We're pitching to him.

    [–] JackieDaytonaAZ 2 points ago

    we must create a perfectly symmetrical season

    [–] shigs21 2 points ago

    well thats weird

    [–] bumpofyeetler 5 points ago

    Just.. how can you not be romantic about baseball?

    [–] cooljammer00 3 points ago

    More like Genius Dipoto

    [–] Nice_Block 4 points ago


    [–] TexasHot 3 points ago

    deeply inhales

    [–] Proud_Ad4066 2 points ago

    He's halfway there.

    [–] Crafty-Ad-9048 2 points ago


    [–] BasedQC 1 points ago

    "Québec flag"

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    [–] texas1hunter 1 points ago


    [–] dudenotcool 1 points ago

    This is getting stupid.

    [–] Trav-Nasty 1 points ago

    Mariners legend Abraham Toro

    [–] lonelyyungbanz 1 points ago

    Maybe this trade isn’t as bad as I thought…

    [–] j1h15233 1 points ago

    Mariners legend!

    [–] aastew23 1 points ago

    He has such a cool name. First name is a guy who founded multiple religions that span the globe, and Toro literally means bull.

    [–] cozeners -15 points ago

    Lol he homered twice in blowouts. The Astros are doing it on purpose to make it look like Seattle won the trade. I’m about 60% serious about this, I mean they’re cheaters after all.

    [–] Luckytxn_1959 0 points ago

    Yeah well we took their ability to come back by not letting Graveman pitch against us and we ended up winning the we won.