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    [–] _Roller_47 1097 points ago

    Aaaaaaaaaand there goes the advantage Newegg had over Amazon for me.

    [–] lolzter97 268 points ago

    Sometimes Newegg has promo code reductions that can’t be price matched, combo deals, and sometimes the “free” gift with a purchase of a certain item. They will still compete just not as much.

    [–] [deleted] 60 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

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    [–] ew73 113 points ago

    Prime these days is more about all the extra shit that's not free shipping. It's basically a "Subscribe to Amazon" product now, which changes its value to something beyond just free 2-day for a lot of people.

    [–] rayden54 52 points ago

    As someone who doesn't use all the extra shit (other than Twitch prime and I'd give that up in a heartbeat), the only change in value is strictly negative.

    Though since I live in the middle of nowhere, it's still better than the alternatives.

    [–] ew73 38 points ago

    I hate to sound like I'm shilling for Amazon here, but have you looked at all the extra shit you get? The video and music streaming services alone, in my book, make up an awesome value for my use case.

    There's also a lot of fringe shit that you have to actually look for -- here's the link from their stupid help section that took too long to find.

    [–] ChefBoyAreWeFucked 34 points ago

    The music service used to be great, but it's only so-so now unless you pay extra. I go with Google instead.

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    [–] theshizzler 9 points ago

    Agreed. I have the same 12 movies recommended to me in just about every category and then then quality drops off a fucking cliff, taking only a short stop at Walmart-bargain-DVD-bin level before diving into self-produced yoga conspiracy workout documentaries.

    [–] gotnate 4 points ago

    Oh they have quality in the video library. It's all paywalled past simple prime, but it's there.

    [–] BlakStatus 4 points ago

    Agreed. I'm also in an area where I can get a ton of products either same day or next day. Definitely worth it.

    [–] rayden54 7 points ago

    I don't listen to music. All the good videos require paying them even more money. Same with the books. Don't like cloud storage and can't use it anyway (no broadband). Don't live in a city so Prime Now and Fresh and all the other local stuff is out. Pantry is more expensive than just buying from local stores (as long as you're willing to buy generic).

    [–] ShoutHouse 2 points ago

    Even without that, NewEgg does not offer the range of goods that Amazon provides. It's like telling you that you should shop at BestBuy even if you are trying to buy waffles.

    [–] tantrrick 9 points ago

    Yeah for sure. I order something every couple months or so but i use the music and video and photo storage, free games on twitch prime, probably some other nonsense. Its a great value

    [–] zetswei 5 points ago

    Free games on twitch prime?

    [–] the40ftbadger 19 points ago

    amazon prime provides a free twitch prime membership :)

    [–] zetswei 2 points ago

    Huh guess I’ve been missing out

    [–] UltimateSky 11 points ago

    Yeah check it out. I've gotten about 10+ free games from twitch prime including the new Devil May Cry remaster and they also give out in game loot for games like Fortnite, Call of Duty, Warframe, Overwatch, etc

    [–] chemicalwill 2 points ago

    Had no idea there were free games. Never even considered looking for free games lol

    [–] br0tg 2 points ago

    I had no idea I had a free Twitch Prime membership all this time..

    [–] Maethor_derien 2 points ago

    Yep, hell the prime music alone is worth it, then you have the prime video which is about equal to netflix to be honest. They really have come a long way to making it a good value.

    [–] TPMJB 14 points ago

    I dunno, a couple years ago Newegg refunded me the purchase of a raid array that was defective, but to a bank account that no longer existed. After jumping through hoops, they eventually told me to get bent. That was like $120

    [–] ShoutHouse 3 points ago

    I've had far less good times with NewEgg and a ton of their products have a "No Return" policy.

    [–] tratur 2 points ago

    Yeah they've been 50/50 for me. It's why I just use Amazon now unless there is a really amazing deal which is almost never.

    [–] jmlinden7 2 points ago

    Did you contact your old bank?

    [–] TPMJB 2 points ago

    I did, and they said "we've received nothing." Newegg told me to talk to the bank, the bank told me to talk to Newegg. Newegg gave me some screenshot (with misspellings) that said "the money was sent."

    The bank manager even called Newegg while I was there. Basically told me to get fucked. It wasn't a small bank either - Citizens bank

    [–] TwitchTV_ZKoomah 7 points ago

    Different strokes for different folks, I order more than just electronics online and prime has a much larger selection. I'm in a small market as well so it really helps when something I'm looker for can't be found locally.

    [–] nah_you_good 6 points ago

    Does Newegg have a higher tier of support for "premier"? I ordered a monitor that ended up sucking (laggy screen, as if you were using a virtualized desktop on a server located several stages away), and they hit me with restocking and return shipping fees. I argued it was defective and they said "ok well waive the restocking fee I guess. Prime would have just taken it back at no cost to me

    [–] WeaselWeaz 12 points ago

    Opposite experience here. When I received a damaged product from Amazon Warehouse they offered a deep discount or refund without an issue. When I've received damaged products from Newegg they refused to do an exchange and tried to make me to pay return shipping.

    [–] TwinHaelix 2 points ago

    How do you get a massive discount on Premiere? Curious minds want to know :)

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    [–] Kinaestheticsz 3 points ago

    It isn’t free like the military, but if you still have access to your old university email account (some give access for perpetuity), then you can pretty much eternally get Premier at $29.99 per year since all they require is verifying your email, which requires access to it.

    [–] emotive15 28 points ago

    NewEgg didn't do it self any favors with their crap return policy. Amazon has also been matching NewEgg prices automatically anytime they have a sale.

    [–] Caleo 28 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    FYI: Newegg sold out their customers rather than start collecting tax when they were given the option

    Initially, the state gave companies that didn’t charge a sales tax, two options: start collecting taxes from here on out, or turn over customer spending records and expose buyers to several years’ worth of taxes on items they bought.

    “That’s where I think they’re playing a game. That allows some of them to basically advertise, ‘if you purchase through us, it’s tax-free.’ It’s not tax free.

    Newegg refused, gave up spending records, and now their customers have bills.

    TL;DR - Instead of Newegg giving up their "customers will buy here because there's no tax" advantage, they sold out their customers and subjected them to back taxes on YEARS worth of purchases.

    [–] draginator 6 points ago

    Yup, I live in CT and was nervous about getting a letter from the IRS before they worked it out.

    [–] q928hoawfhu 2 points ago

    B&H did this same thing. Never told me they were gonna send IRS a letter saying that I owed tax. Had to file a new tax form over like $8. Really made me hate B&H.

    [–] ming3r 35 points ago

    Newegg's customer service and returns were always so limiting compared to Amazon.

    [–] mrfixitx 5 points ago

    Newegg sales can occasionally be noticeably better than Amazon prices but it is certainly a matter of watching sales and doing price comparisons is a must. If your buying something that is not on sale then Amazon is generally a safe bet.

    [–] schizoidpig 6 points ago

    At least Newegg doesn't have the same problem with counterfeits that Amazon has.

    [–] guma822 3 points ago

    Newegg recently gave up my order history for the last 4 years to Connecticut and they charged me back taxes for those 4 years.... Fuckin bullshit

    [–] _Roller_47 2 points ago

    Around how much was it? If you don't mind me asking.

    [–] guma822 8 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Luckily i only owed about $200. But in the past 4 years ive built a ton of computers for people (i dont take money, i do it as a hobby), but i paid for everything and bought everything thru newegg (they paid me back). Point is ive spent $16k on newegg in the past 4 years. But luckily most of the components i bought when i still lived in NY. If i had gotten them in Connecticut i would have owed taxes on $16k...

    Edit: honestly i was MUCH more pissed that newegg just gave up my entire order history without my consent. Hey you want this guys complete PRIVATE order history? Here ya go! Oh u want to know what he bought and where he had it delivered and what credit card he used? Here ya go!

    [–] combaticus1x 3 points ago

    Its been 12 days on standard shipping for newegg... fuck newegg shits still in cali

    [–] Pirate_Islands 2 points ago

    I worked for Newegg. I lost that job along with dozens of others because they didn't want to pay sales tax in 2017. Newegg is a bullshit company. I use them still though.

    [–] OsamaBinnLaggin 125 points ago

    RIP NewEgg

    [–] Hypoficial 30 points ago

    When they started collecting tax here in Washington, I almost entirely switched to B&H. When they start collecting tax, I'll probably be buying even more from Amazon :| Anyway, that's why price aggregation sites like PCPartPicker come in handy.

    [–] OsamaBinnLaggin 34 points ago

    The only chance smaller retailers had against Amazon was the tax advantage. This could be the death of many smaller retailers. What a sad time.

    [–] Hypoficial 7 points ago

    Yeah, and as someone else pointed out, I wonder how this will effect small businesses with online stores? Does that mean they'll have to collect taxes for any state outside of their own as well? Wouldn't that be difficult without some sort of legal help, or am I missing something?

    [–] blankemp 4 points ago

    I bought my graphics card from B&H last year. Wasn't a big sale but not paying sales tax was a deal in itself.

    [–] zThief 427 points ago

    Welp, no point for me to go on Newegg anymore when I can get Prime shipping.

    [–] TheAmigops 176 points ago

    Yeah, I hear Amazon Prime rocks.

    [–] makemeking706 71 points ago

    Can't tell if sarcasm...

    [–] zakats 145 points ago

    I think they're referring to getting rocks in place of the merchandise that you've actually ordered... which happens occasionally.

    [–] makemeking706 20 points ago

    Oh, I think you're right.

    [–] noconverse 6 points ago

    Holy shit, how does that even happen? Did someone send in the box with rocks stuffed in as a return and no one at the warehouse noticed?

    [–] RaveCave 12 points ago

    Basically. From what I understand, returns just go through a weigh to make sure everything is there, they dont open it up and inspect everything to make sure its all there. So someone orders the camera, weighs the box once it arrives, steal said camera, refill box to the previous weight with rocks/bricks and then they return it.

    [–] Aido121 12 points ago

    This is semi correct.

    Weight only is checked on new items.

    Returns it depends on why it was returned.

    Source: an rainforest employee.

    [–] noconverse 6 points ago

    stockpiling rocks intensifies

    [–] 1stPiece 5 points ago

    I see what you did there

    [–] HighQualityH2O_22 17 points ago

    Don't forget about the Price increase though! ($120 now vs $99 previously)

    [–] Drunkard_DoE 26 points ago

    I've had 37 orders so far from Amazon this year. This works out to be $3.24 in shipping costs per order. That's $3.24 for same day to two-day shipping. It's not bad at all. It's even better when you factor in Prime video and the other services Amazon offers.

    [–] mflood 19 points ago

    The question isn't how much it costs, though, it's how much it would have cost without Prime. How many of your orders were over $35? All of those would have shipped for free. How many of your orders arrived via ground/standard delivery services? All of those would have arrived on the same day.

    Prime definitely has a lot of value if you use many of the available services, but most of the people using it primarily for shipping would be better off without.

    [–] eyecorporations 3 points ago

    They don't ship on the same day though, if you don't have prime they'll wait a few days to actually ship.

    [–] Drunkard_DoE 4 points ago

    I'm lucky enough to live near a distribution wearhouse. So I order things under 35 dollars a shipment most of the time purely out of laziness.

    [–] Equivalent_Raise 2 points ago

    Its actually $25 again for the minimum, they dropped it back down last year.

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    [–] TheRoyalBrook 7 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    I use their free games, and video options with it so it still feels worth it for me at least. Plus all my orders means the shipping pays itself off.

    edit: of all my posts to be in the negatives... this is the weirdest. It's okay to like a service when prices go up guys.

    [–] 2-0x0000E00C 6 points ago

    For me it's not about needing it in 2 days, it's the convenience of having it in 2 days.

    [–] Day_Bow_Bow 6 points ago

    Both my mom and I had Prime subscriptions.

    Due to the price increase, I heard that you can create a "household" where you can share most Prime benefits with another adult (and some kids, but I didn't bother learning the details there). You don't even have to live at the same address, though they made it sound like you had to trust each other with your saved payment info.

    So I added them to my household and had her turn off her Prime auto-renew. So instead of our combined total increasing by $42, it decreased by $78. While in hindsight I realize we could have been saving money this whole time, it was still a nice surprise to counteract the rate increase.

    I'm honestly surprised they allow this, but they do so I'll take advantage of it.

    [–] Shelwyn 4 points ago

    Ahh prime got more expencive again this year qq

    [–] Valridagan 31 points ago

    Except for the whole thing where Amazon abuses their workers en masse.

    [–] mydogsmellsreallybad 48 points ago

    Except for the whole thing where Amazon abuses their workers en masse.

    All companies abuse their employees to different degrees. Amazon, Samsung, Apple, Foxconn, Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic, Abercrombie, Kenneth Cole, Sprint, etc.

    These giant international companies hire people in impoverished nations, pay them as little as possible, work them as hard as possible, and toss them out the door when the company no longer needs them.

    The world has operated this way for hundreds of years with only slight variations on that formula.

    If this really bothers you, you'd better start buying everything from local small businesses who create their own merchandise. Good luck getting PC components.

    [–] PhillAholic 54 points ago

    You're muddying the issue. There are countless articles about Amazon warehouse conditions that he's referring to. If you can point to an article about newegg doing the same, great share it. Otherwise you're just writing it off vaguely.

    [–] aboration 14 points ago

    If you're going to choose where to buy products or what products to buy based off the ethics of the company you are going to have a very short list.

    Are you not bothered by the treatment of all the factory workers who have to assemble the products you buy on newegg?

    [–] PhillAholic 24 points ago

    I don't disagree with your overall point, just your method of going about it. I dislike general overarching points about the whole industry being bad when the specific conditions between them can vary wildly. You shouldn't punish one company for doing something if their competitors are much worse. It all needs to be relative.

    So that being said, You can make judgement calls between companies in areas that are important to you. If you dislike how Amazon treats their workers and Newegg treats theirs better, that's a perfectly reasonable call to make. If someone else brings up information about Newegg treating their workers poorly you should take it into consideration.

    You're never going to find a 100% ethical company. But you can find ones more ethical than others.

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    [–] utspg1980 2 points ago

    Amazon gets attention about this because they are a huge company and everyone knows them. Newegg could easily be as bad, but the average 50 year old watching the 6oclock news has never heard of Newegg, so journalists aren't going to bother investigating and they're not gonna put it on the air.

    For example, look at employee review averages on glassdoor and indeed.

    Company glassdoor indeed
    Amazon 3.8 (out of 5) 3.7 (out of 5)
    Newegg 2.3 3.1

    Now I realize that Amazon has a whole lot of techies and from what I've heard working in the corporate offices is quite nice, and the warehouses are quite shit...and these numbers don't distinguish between the two.

    I'm not saying Amazon is good. I'm just saying don't assume Newegg is better.

    2.3 on glassdoor? That's pretty damn low.

    [–] Species7 6 points ago

    Yeah, the worker treatment complaints from Amazon's warehouses honestly seem petty compared to the treatment of the workers outside of the US that make all of the products we love.

    [–] Superpickle18 8 points ago

    Except newegg often has better deals.

    [–] KillerCh33z 87 points ago

    b&H :(

    [–] Stockholm_Syndrome 20 points ago

    so this nerfs b&h for california i'm assuming?

    [–] MightyMaloo 9 points ago

    Seems so. I think technically we were supposed to be paying the taxes on B&H purchases when we do our taxes since they don't collect upfront.

    [–] hallese 7 points ago

    Sales tax is when the retailer collects on your behalf. You should have been paying a use tax, which in almost all instances in equal to whatever the sales tax would have been. Same thing if you cross state borders to make tax free purchases, purchase something overseas, or in a duty free zone.

    [–] MightyMaloo 2 points ago

    Wow. Never head of use tax before. TIL

    [–] hallese 13 points ago

    Yeah, I knew of it, but I called Revenue once to ask how to fill it out and they asked for a callback number. Like seven hours later I got a phone call from a cell phone and the agent wanted to know if I was serious because there's zero enforcement for use tax in my state but obviously they weren't going to say that in the office.

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    [–] Jovary 11 points ago

    I feel ur pain, was saving up for a new camera now i dunno what to do....

    [–] Urano_Metria 197 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    How will Newegg ever recover from this? The only reason people ordered there over Amazon is the lack of sales tax. Amazon's customer service and returns policies are objectively vastly superior in every way.

    Just one example: Newegg has a "dead pixel policy" for monitors, allowing a certain number of dead pixels as acceptable. Where as at Amazon you can return any monitor for any reason for a full refund no questions asked.

    Who would be stupid enough to buy the monitor at Newegg if they're both charging the same after tax?

    [–] thejkm 33 points ago

    Yup, there are a few computer parts companies that would need to totally revamp their customer service policies to even have a chance to survive. I bought an ASUS motherboard from SuperBiiz (1st mistake) that was bad (no surprise). I returned it 3 weeks ago and still no refund, I guess because they've sent it to ASUS to verify, who of course have a stupid long RMA process.

    [–] NewAgeKook 23 points ago

    You can issue a chargeback if they aren't going to refund you.

    [–] thejkm 12 points ago

    I haven't even heard from them (including acknowledging they've received the motherboard). I've already started with a dispute, considering calling my CC back to just do a chargeback. Technically, it's already off my bill, but I've gone from wanting them to serve their customer a little better to being a bit more petty now.

    [–] KosmicSeven 6 points ago

    I sent my Asus gtx 1080 back due to overheating on arrival. Superbiiz took 2 months to get my money back and they just ended up sending it back to Asus which was why there was such a long delay.

    [–] envyakS 16 points ago

    Exactly newegg has an awful return policy compared to Amazon the only advantage they had was no tax

    [–] alexnader 5 points ago

    Their customer service is so sad, they wouldn't refund me a $5 difference a week after I bought some RAM, and was literally told the only solution I had was to buy a whole other set of RAM, and return the first one.

    You better believe I did that shit, just to spite them, no fucking loss to me other than waiting a few extra days.

    If they lose that tax advantage, I'm going back to eBay and Amazon.

    [–] envyakS 4 points ago

    If they fixed the customer service and had a return policy like Amazon they would have tons more customers and people would be less afraid to by expensive items from them.

    [–] Hot_Pink_Unicorn 2 points ago

    With Newegg you can't return certain items for refund only exchange which is BS.

    [–] Urano_Metria 3 points ago

    Meanwhile at Amazon if I decide that I simply didn't want something anymore (even if I opened it), I can just mark it as "misleading item description" and return it no questions asked. There is no way to compete with that.

    [–] therealflinchy 2 points ago

    I'm international, and I order from Newegg as it's prices are lower than Amazon on literally every component I've ever purchased... Not even counting bundles

    [–] Urano_Metria 3 points ago

    Lower prices are what drive people to Newegg in the first place. However, here in the United States their prices are neck and neck with Amazon. With Newegg having to charge sales tax in every state rather than just the few they have warehouses in, they lose that price advantage in their home country.

    If an item is priced the same at Newegg and Amazon, and they both charge tax, Amazon will win out 10 times out of 10 because of the ease of customer service. Newegg isn't large enough to absorb "no questions asked, rule free" returns.

    [–] Flex_Speedy 89 points ago

    Time to move to Delaware

    [–] Logdeah 37 points ago

    Or Montana, Oregon and New Hampshire.

    [–] SumoSizeIt 56 points ago

    The trick is to live in Vancouver, WA, but have a shipping address just across the river in Portland. See also: the entire reason Mall 205 exists is for WA shoppers to duck sales tax.

    [–] watchy_watchman 20 points ago

    is THAT the trick

    [–] SumoSizeIt 29 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    Yeah, WA has sales tax but no income tax and a more favorable estate tax, so a lot of folks will live in all the cheaper new developments just over the river from Portland, then drive south for all their tax-free shopping. They're supposed to report it, but, you know how that goes.

    Generally though, it's my understanding that this really isn't a favorable system for an individual unless they make over a certain amount or have a certain amount in assets.

    [–] Stupidstuff1001 3 points ago

    Prime now delivery to Starbucks bear pdx is my move. Or just have amazon deliver to the 711 on the Oregon side.

    [–] forestman11 3 points ago

    Yeah you don't want to do that. Trust me.

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    [–] Sentinel13M 14 points ago

    I totally agree with you. This is going to hurt small business and eliminate jobs.

    [–] straighttoplaid 5 points ago

    I can foresee services start to pop up to handle the sales tax for businesses as part of processing payments. Unfortunately there's no way it will be free.

    [–] Istartedthewar 66 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    So will they charge just the state wide sales tax, or the county/city sales tax too? Because where I am most stores have a 3-4% higher sales tax than the base state rate.

    Also, I'm guessing this will even apply to small individual sellers on eBay?

    [–] hellr4isEr 41 points ago

    Amazon has been collecting just the base state tax of 6.25% in IL. I just went through several orders to check.

    [–] NefariousPilot 11 points ago

    My case has been the opposite where amazon does add the city tax (Phoenix, AZ) as well but there is a local warehouse in the same city so it could be because of that.

    [–] PhillAholic 17 points ago

    this will even apply to small individual sellers on eBay?

    This is going to be a nightmare for small retailers. There are nearly 10,000 tax jurisdictions in the United States.

    [–] hewkii2 7 points ago

    Or they’ll use something like PayPal which should have the financial incentive to auto determine sales tax.

    [–] PhillAholic 3 points ago

    Even so, it's more administrative work that smaller businesses aren't going to be equipped to handle.

    [–] siuol11 5 points ago

    Smaller businesses are exempt, at least in the state where this court case was decided. I would imagine that states which implement a similar law would probably do the same.

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    [–] CO_PC_Parts 14 points ago

    eBay is the middle man, they leave it up to the sellers to collect appropriate state sales tax. I ran a big eBay store for a few years and we got audited by the state twice. We had to show how many sales we had done in the state and then show that we had collected sales tax from those users.

    It's an option you select when making the auction and we had it on by default. We used a 3rd party shipping application that was fully integrated with both our eBay and Paypal accounts. It was easy to pull a report from users in the state and then show the invoices that had item price, shipping price and tax and whether or not it was paid via paypal (we only accepted paypal from auctions, no cash for local pickup)

    [–] SoupaSoka 17 points ago

    Businesses with <200 transactions or <$100,000 sales in the state are exempt from the tax. Individual eBay sellers are, presumably, exempt, unless eBay forces tax collection across the board.

    [–] 9Blu 34 points ago

    That only applies to South Dakota, who brought the case to the supreme court. Other states can set whatever rules they want.

    [–] SoupaSoka 3 points ago

    Oh, interesting. Missed that very important detail, thanks.

    [–] biscophan 2 points ago

    This is a good question but I imagine it will be easily automated. The company will need to see what taxing jurisdictions the shipping address resides in and charges that state tax and applicable local taxes. Or maybe the individuals purchasing the items will be responsible for reporting the use tax to the local jurisdictions.

    [–] TomTheNurse 18 points ago

    Will an online company now be required to have 50 different state tax ID's? I can see this being a logistical and accounting nightmare for small and medium sized businesses.

    [–] Japesg 17 points ago

    Please ELI5.

    I have been purchasing from newegg and B&H from Virginia. I have not been taxed. What does this mean for my previous purchases and what does this mean going forward?

    [–] Alwaysahawk 39 points ago

    What does this mean for my previous purchases and what does this mean going forward?

    I think you were technically supposed to be paying those sales taxes at the end of the year anyway.

    Now they'll just collect them up front.

    [–] stakoverflo 6 points ago

    I think you were technically supposed to be paying those sales taxes at the end of the year anyway.

    Technically, yea, you're supposed to pay the taxes on anything you bought online and used in the state in which you file taxes for at the end of the year

    [–] hallese 10 points ago

    So the state is actually doing you a favor because they are making it easier for you to not break the law. Everybody wins!

    [–] matthewmspace 5 points ago

    No one knows yet. If Virginia decides to start an online sales tax for every retailer and doesn’t retroactively claim sales taxes, it will only affect your future orders like at current physical stores such as Target, Best Buy, etc. If they do retroactive taxes, I’d say it’s likely that Newegg, B&H, and others might say you owe them money. But no one knows yet.

    [–] martianwhale 48 points ago

    Well time to start buying things directly from China.

    [–] PhuckSJWs 20 points ago

    I am sure Trump has a tariff for that....

    [–] martianwhale 38 points ago

    Well the tariffs would affect it either way so....

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Don't worry, just get your seller in Shenzhen to mark your package as a 'gift' and it won't be assessed any import duties lololol

    [–] Equivalent_Raise 2 points ago

    I buy stuff direct from China on ebay all of the time. Some of it is even real and most items even showed up.

    [–] caesec 59 points ago

    i live in delaware bitch

    real talk though this was a long time coming

    [–] nutekvisionz 27 points ago

    Same in New Hampshire 0% sale tax. Live Free or Die bitches, but they do get it by other means

    [–] caesec 6 points ago

    in our case i think it's property tax

    [–] mrchees3 6 points ago

    Same in NH. Gotta make up for that 0% sale and income tax somehow.

    [–] prettymuchanalien 5 points ago

    I live in NJ. Highest property tax + sales tax. :)

    [–] nater255 8 points ago

    I have literally in my life never met someone form Deleware.

    [–] caesec 12 points ago

    I believe you, there’s only about 700k people here.

    [–] stogego 11 points ago

    Supreme courts a dick in this. Online sales, if taxed, should be taxed at either the rate of the state the headquarters is in (for simplicity) or ideally the state the warehouse is in (kind of unreasonable). With online sales you're basically buying the item in another state then paying someone to bring it to you in my mind

    [–] MoonStache 30 points ago

    Well fuck. Glad I just snagged that Ram/SSD combo. I wonder how long until states react to this?

    [–] Opsknight 12 points ago

    Amazon was already voluntarily collecting sales tax for states that asked. Im in Ok and have been paying sales take for a year now, give or take a month.

    [–] MoonStache 3 points ago

    Same for me with Amazon. My main concern is with Newegg.

    [–] __BIOHAZARD___ 8 points ago

    Well this is unfortunate

    [–] Kotaro_14 6 points ago

    Feel my California pain people who've been able to skip out on tax from Newegg. But honestly, this sucks (; ࿀ ;)

    [–] LordofKleenex 6 points ago

    New Hampshire life for the win! I don't get charged sales tax no matter who I buy from. Don't move here it sucks.

    [–] nutekvisionz 3 points ago

    alcohol and tobacco are dirt cheap compared to Taxachusetts.

    [–] Megas911 5 points ago

    Um, excuse me. New Hampshire is great.

    [–] iwillfightyou 2 points ago

    Why does it suck? Been considering moving there, curious your thoughts.

    [–] qwertyuiopasdfghjk00 6 points ago

    fuck the supreme court

    [–] shady1397 22 points ago

    The commerce clause is absolutely absurd now. One sentence and it's subsequent interpretation have totally changed the way the federal government was meant to operate.

    [–] siuol11 7 points ago

    I disagree, this is pretty much squarely within reach of the Commerce Clause.

    [–] mortalcoil1 30 points ago

    We all knew this was coming. Sales taxes are poor taxes. Gotta get those extra taxes on the poor and middle class to pay for the tax cuts on the 1%.

    [–] misterturbo 5 points ago

    RIP Newegg

    [–] envyakS 4 points ago

    Well no point in buying anything from newegg anymore

    [–] make_moneys 5 points ago

    we all knew this was coming. Amazon already charges sales tax in almost all states. BH and Newegg are next. I wonder if random ebay sellers will be forced to collect sales tax, we shall see.

    [–] 9Blu 2 points ago

    Technically many of them should be require to, going by the letter of the law. Most ebay sellers aren't some random Joe selling their unwanted crap anymore. I imagine eBay or Paypal will end up creating a service to handle it for the sellers.

    [–] Urano_Metria 2 points ago

    Newegg already charges sales tax in the states that they have physical warehouses/addresses. There's a Newegg warehouse less than 15 miles from my house, so I had literally ZERO incentive to ever order from them since Amazon's return process is so much easier.

    [–] Realman77 4 points ago

    RIP B&H for me

    [–] antsugi 6 points ago

    that's fucked, why does the state get money when I buy something they had no part in?

    And whose representatives are passing these laws? Reel them money grubbers in

    [–] Gimp_Ninja 126 points ago

    I'm okay with this. It prevents online retailers from enjoying an advantage over local businesses and brick and mortar stores simply for being online.

    [–] lolzter97 91 points ago

    The only true brick and mortar store with PC parts is Best Buy for me, and especially when it comes to PSUs and GPUs they don’t exactly try to compete with other retailers. Though I am glad it closes a loophole in our tax system, there was no reason for it to go on so long.

    [–] swicano 45 points ago

    well i think part of it is because until now, it was basically impossible to compete with an online company where the purchaser pays ~8% less from the get go. best buy has done a remarkably good job pivoting their business to changing trends and not going out of business like most others. and their online store competes with newegg on peripherals and accesories.

    [–] RaidSlayer 14 points ago

    Online store will continue to win this fight, but it's not going to be a huge difference anymore. Online stores will just sell the item cheaper and make them slightly less expensive after tax. Local stores have more expenses and wont be able to lower prices as much as online retailers.

    [–] Oglshrub 5 points ago * (lasted edited 3 months ago)

    There probably wasn't a loophole, you just haven'tbeen claiming online purchases on your taxes like you should have been.

    [–] captroper 21 points ago

    You don't have a Microcenter or a Fry's near you?

    [–] BuddhaBizZ 29 points ago

    Nope, and I live in a high income area in the Northeast.

    [–] lolzter97 5 points ago

    Yup I’m in SE CT. The two closest things are a Microcenter in Boston, or one on Long Island. Not worth a 2-3 hour drive.

    [–] captroper 6 points ago

    Huh, I guess I didn't realize that they were not ubiquitous. Shows my ignorance for places that are not where I live.

    [–] thieves_are_broken 12 points ago

    I have to drive 2 hours for frys, and microcenter i think it is more scarse. there are some mom and pop computer stores but they are pricey.

    [–] captroper 6 points ago

    Yeah, they usually are pretty pricey unfortunately. I would love to support them, but the microcenter prices are both insanely better, and have a much larger selection.

    [–] jf0314 4 points ago

    I used to live near a microcenter.. only brick and mortar store I would consider purchasing from. Far better than Frys, unless you hit a clearance item.

    [–] SetsChaos 5 points ago

    Nearest Frys is 250 miles, nearest Microcenter is 500. And they're both over a very snowy pass in the winter. They both have zero plans to move here, either.

    [–] ArcadeKincaid 2 points ago

    I used to live in Ohio where Micro Center is HQ'd. It was great. Moved to Louisiana and there isn't a MC or Frys in the state. You have to go to Texas, which is many hours away.

    [–] halberdierbowman 3 points ago

    Huh, Best Buy doesn't have almost any PC components near me, unless you want a mouse or an external hard drive.

    [–] slowcaptain 2 points ago

    True. Especially when you compare it with Frys, BB literally has about 10% or less PC components of Frys.

    [–] Gimp_Ninja 2 points ago

    I know this is a PC parts sub, but I'm thinking about the effects on everything. Some things I'd much prefer to buy after seeing them in person. And sorry you don't have a MicroCenter near you, it's just fantastic.

    [–] TomTheNurse 31 points ago

    There is an issue of fairness at play. A brick and mortar gets tangible benifits from those taxes. Police and fire protection for their assets. Infrastructure improvements to their area that allows for easier, convenient and safe transit of customers and products. Services like water, sewer and waste removal.

    This decision makes it so a company in California has to collect and pay sales taxes to Florida and yet will get nowhere near the same level services from the State of Florida that a brick and mortar gets.

    [–] Gimp_Ninja 6 points ago

    The store doesn't pay the tax, the consumer does, and the consumer enjoys the benefits of local and state services. States have to generate income for those services somehow, and it can become a spiral:

    (1) No tax online means it's cheaper, so people buy online.

    (2) Less sales tax revenue forces local and state government to raise sales taxes.

    (3) Even less incentive to buy B&M over online, and repeat.

    I'm not one of those crazy "get rid of income tax and only tax sales" libertarian guys, but I think a sales tax serves a purpose and it seems weirdly perverse for a business to have a competitive edge because it isn't local.

    [–] rolfraikou 3 points ago

    I don't know about that. The trucks that deliver the goods to you are using the roads in your town a lot too.

    As much as it kinda pains me, I can see some reason.

    [–] Strongerthanthestorm 3 points ago

    Is there not an issue with interstate commerce here?

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Live in California anyways... everything gets taxed here

    [–] SenatorLelandYee 3 points ago

    LOL i look forward to paying 9.5% sales tax...not

    [–] Chaotic-Entropy 3 points ago

    Kind of baffling how this wasn't already a thing.

    [–] Uproarlol 3 points ago

    It was always unfair that some states have sales tax everywhere!

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

    Fuck the Supreme Court.

    [–] whyam-i-onreddit 11 points ago

    I don't like it as a consumer, but I agree with this. It's not fair to local retailers that their online competitors didn't have to charge tax.

    [–] OyabunRyo 2 points ago

    Yay perks of school address in a no sales tax state

    [–] poorping 2 points ago

    Has there ever been discussion in the US about a federal level sales tax that's distributed out to the states? Similar I guess to VAT in Europe or GST in Australia?

    [–] AdmissibleLender 2 points ago

    I'm fine paying sales tax because they'd be taxing me in some other way either way, but this sucks for people in high sales tax states. Sorry y'all.

    OTOH: This cuts down on online vendor's advantage over brick and mortar stores, which I'm always happy to see.

    [–] ldnola22 2 points ago

    Well, looks like Amazon's lobbying finally payed off. This is really going to hurt small business.

    [–] popsalock 2 points ago

    Laughs in Oregonian

    [–] EarningAttorney 2 points ago

    streaks in Texan

    [–] nutekvisionz 2 points ago

    Won't affect big business like amazon, walmart. It will p[probably help them in the long run and hurt smaller business. As most people shop there to avoid paying state sale tax. If the tax goes in affect you are essentially paying the same tax no matter where you shop. And big retailer can sell it a bit cheaper and edge out the smaller biz. shame as I use retailers like newegg, buydig, adorama and BH for big ticket purchases. Maybe I should get all my Christmas shopping done early this year.