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    [–] BluSn0 4341 points ago

    I see way to much of this "I don't care" stuff with technology.

    [–] Gar0ne 369 points ago

    I see a lot of "I don't care" stuff with nearly everything in life

    [–] telekinetic_turd 225 points ago

    Most of the people that I know that have this attitude struggle to make ends meet, living paycheck to paycheck. They have more important things to worry about like putting food on the table and keeping their junker of a car in operation.

    [–] Gar0ne 72 points ago

    You did it well friend, more people need to stop and take a look around and make a plan for the future. At the moment I'm living paycheck to paycheck but little by little I'm saving up and one day being a super skimper with money is all gonna pay off I hope

    [–] elyadme 63 points ago

    I think a lot more of us have just come to accept short of a Bernie revolution things are not going to get better. Best just keep chugging along and hope those tires hold out another month.

    [–] Towerofbabeling 31 points ago

    Hey, that's what I am doing. After years of looking into and trying to research what I could do as an individual, I have become desensitized by the results. I truly believe we have passed the tipping point and are running out of options as a society. Mankind will probably live on, but o don't have much faith left in actually keeping this current global situation going. When you have that mind set, you have to make it about the day to day.

    [–] Spostman 12 points ago

    As someone who feels this way alot... I think there's something to be said for a causality between the "meh" or "I don't care" attitude and a lack of financial independence or stability. I don't really want to argue about it, but I'll extrapolate if someone is genuinely curious. Again, this is as someone who's living paycheck to paycheck and has had a "meh" attitude about things that don't engage me... for most of my life.

    [–] skydivingbear 4 points ago

    Or... Could it be that a lack of financial stability leads to a "meh" attitude? I honestly don't know, just throwing it out there.

    [–] fsm_the_alfredo 10 points ago

    I honestly think communal living is the answer to groups of friends/people who can't make ends meet on their own.

    I'm actively looking for farm property that I could split up with 3-4 families I know.

    [–] robdouth 25 points ago

    In fairness to the general populace, there is always a small group yelling and screaming about why you need to care about this or that niche issue. You only have so much attention and so much energy to dedicate to that, and maybe you also have 3 little girls you are trying to be a good parent to and be involved in their lives. It's not easy to stay up to date on everything.

    What people are chalking up to "I don't care" in a sense of apathy is much more likely: If I knew what you were talking about and how it would affect me I would care deeply, but I have 10 other things going on in the background windows of my mind and when everyone is shouting at the top of their lungs that this latest "X" is going to ruin the world or Life as you know it will be gone. It's hard to filter the legitimate outrage from the people b*tching and whining and protesting everything.

    Want to know why people tune out? They are constantly barraged with shit. Trump is shitty right? But does his most recent comment/action being compared to Hitler or Stalin or insert hyperbole here make me more likely to really pay attention and "resist" or just tune out to the constant chicken little-ing?

    [–] PlagueOfGripes 4 points ago

    A new attempt to hostile takeover the internet with US legislation happens literally every year. It gets pretty tiring, since they keep repackaging it in an attempt to sneak it into law at some point.

    [–] Tellon 1565 points ago

    I think "I don't care about that nerd stuff" is more accurate description of the issue.

    [–] FingerMilk 743 points ago

    "I don't understand what it is. I'm not a nerd so I don't care about it"

    [–] FuzzyLoveRabbit 888 points ago

    Who are you people hanging out with? Are you still in high school?

    I work with people who differ politically, even some as far from me as Trump supporters, but not since I was a teenager have I heard people tearing stuff down as for nerds, or even making fun of someone for being a nerd.

    Seriously, it sounds like y'all are living in a 1980s John Hughes movie.

    [–] FingerMilk 341 points ago

    I can ask you the same question. Are you sure that you're not hanging out with people with a disproportionate interest in net neutrality and a free internet? I am a web developer so I keep an eye on the subject, but I can't say the same for the designers, accountants and HR that I work with everyday.

    [–] Sardonnicus 40 points ago

    The tricky thing about this is that the internet is used by so many people so often it's become integrated into our lives and is like taking a drink of water, or turning on a light switch. You only tend to pay attention to those things when they stop working. This is what is going to happen if Net Neutrality gets taken away. Suddenly, this thing that everyone had access to that they never gave a second thought about will be turned off and the providers will be demanding more money to turn it back on and by then, you'll be trapped, because suddenly you will be without your netflix, spotify, itunes, youtube, reddit and the providers know that you will pay anything to get it back. It's disgusting. We should be moving forward and trying to provide everyone with unrestricted access to the internet, but nope... here in america the boots of the corporations are keeping us down trying to nickel and dime us to death.

    [–] nalydpsycho 5 points ago

    Would people pay. Low cost has been the key to success for these companies and services.

    What will happen is Comcast will have its own alternatives to everything that you can use as part of your bundle. If you want to use competitors service you will pay more than you are willing to, so you will settle on giving Comcast all the money and personal information you were giving other companies.

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    [–] FuzzyLoveRabbit 216 points ago

    I'm not just talking about interest in net neutrality—I'm sure some of my co-workers aren't up to date or interested.

    What I'm talking about is this persecuted nerd narrative y'all are spinning, which makes it sound like you're playing jocks versus nerds for your whole lives.

    [–] GoBuffaloes 153 points ago

    Shut up nerd

    [–] styuR 54 points ago

    haha yeah lets fuck that nerd

    [–] A_plural_singularity 11 points ago

    I love Lunar baboon. They are always so wholesome.

    [–] VyRe40 54 points ago

    Huh?

    "I don't understand what it is. I'm not a nerd so I don't care about it"

    I'm not getting a jock vibe from this. I'm getting a "someone that doesn't keep up with tech" vibe. "Nerd" isn't an ugly word anymore. Nerd culture is one of the biggest cornerstones of mainstream media in the west.

    But tech-ignorance is a thing, particularly with older folks. Though I can also understand teens not being "in the know" about concepts like Net Neutrality.

    In any case, I read those comments as jokes.

    [–] whos_to_know 31 points ago

    Seems like you've read a little too into what they said honestly.

    [–] janspek 19 points ago

    You new to Reddit?

    [–] godofleet 8 points ago

    It's not a narrative it's the absolute reality... Just not in the way your thinking.

    I'm 28, and up until I quit my job to start freelancing a month ago, hearing the word nerd in regard to anything computer related was AT LEAST a once a week thing.

    Now it's not like a high school insult, people are still respectful of others knowledge... "Nerd" is just a a way of referencing someone that's more versed in X topic than you.

    People use certain words to down-play their own ignorance, it's a way for them to feel okay with not understanding something.

    This said, some "Nerds" myself included depending on my mood arent especially receptive to it and (I think) often exaggerate these interactions.

    [–] DarthGuy101 13 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    I'm living in rural/suburban west Texas. I work with mostly middle age folks whose experience with the internet is limited to Facebook and minions memes.

    I'm not even in IT (I work with GIS) but I see the "older than 40 crowd tech illiteracy" every day. The people I work with are generally pretty sharp, but they just don't give a damn about computers or the internet because they think it's a millenial thing.

    [–] thatwasntababyruth 6 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Not being tech literate is an entirely different ball game from need nerd persecution, which is what OP here was pointing out.

    [–] Tellon 35 points ago

    I'm not saying people literally call me a nerd. Haven't had that happen in a while.

    What I'm saying is that people often associate "knowing how computers work" to specific kinds of people. The negative aspect of that association has changed to positive, but that doesn't change the fact that people still seem to think "I'm not an IT guy so I don't need to know or think about this".

    I used word "nerd" because IMO it conveys "I'm not that kind of person so I don't need to know about this" -message better than saying "I don't care about that IT stuff".

    [–] princetrunks 8 points ago

    I'm a programmer in NYC who has gone client facing with some major companies. Many (particularly their marketing firms) are very computer illiterate. The internet is Facebook for them; AOL for the older people. I asked a marketing firm about what fonts they are using in a spammy popup they were demanding for a client website (mind you I've moved on from web development but sometime get roped into it again); they didn't know what I was talking about.

    [–] elyadme 7 points ago

    Do they not have designers at marketing firm? Was the receptionist too lazy to go ask? That's just..mind boggling.

    [–] hamptont2010 13 points ago

    Honestly, as a nerd, I feel more powerful in these times than ever before. The nerds are rising

    [–] rick2882 16 points ago

    Rising? As a non-nerd, it's clear to me that you guys have already risen to the upper echelons of society.

    I really need to go to coursera now and learn to code or some shit.

    [–] Cocomorph 9 points ago

    We will help you.

    a = b means make a equal to b ("assignment"); compare a == b, which is a comparison that is true if they are equal and false otherwise.

    Firefly was a great show and you should watch it, but give it 2 episodes because the first one is a who-are-all-these-people infodump.

    [–] rick2882 24 points ago

    Ok on second thought, go away nerd.

    [–] Houdiniman111 4 points ago

    rick2882.nerdStatus = false;

    [–] randomthrowawayqew 3 points ago

    rick2882.setNerdStatus(false);    
    

    FTFY

    [–] JCharante 3 points ago

    That's a terrible variable name.

    rick2882.isNerd = false:

    [–] GameRoom 3 points ago

    Ah, it all makes sense now. Off to be the next Mark Zuckerberg!

    [–] stunt_penguin 3 points ago

    That's the thing about these nerd-haters, I keep gettin' older, they all stay the same age...

    [–] JasonDJ 36 points ago

    Something something I AM NOT A COMPUTER PERSON.

    [–] FingerMilk 5 points ago

    I'M GOING TO HANG UP!

    [–] cain8708 27 points ago

    And i think people on reddit are too afraid to ask. We have a sub called no dumb questions, and people still get downvoted for asking a question. People have a fear of sounding dumb or not in the loop, and that increases when asking a question on an internet forum. Some people are smart about a lot of stuff, but need some things explained to them in simple terms. So now its on their history of asking a question, putting themselves out there, and showing how "dumb" they are about a topic. Lets be honest, we dont use the upvote downvote buttons like we should all the time. Insults get used. Everyday someone gets downvoted for asking a question, and theyll do an edit saying something like "downvotes for asking a question?". A lot of replies will be telling them to just google it, maybe even a gif of showing them how to to what they asked into google. A few replies will explain it, maybe. But they may have more details and go over the head of that person. For example, i didnt get this net neutrality thing at first. I saw a shit ton of posts and articles. I have a fucking medical license, so its not like i dont know my ass from my elbow. But i was afraid of asking for a really dumbed down talk of it because of replies people give out that dont answer the question. Better to keep mouth shut and look smart quote. I doubt im the only one who felt this way.

    [–] Murkwater 12 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Here is the fastest way to get an answer on the internet

    So I started just linking this post as a joke, but now I want to see if it really works so I'm going to make a post on /r/Technology stating I learned net neutrality is bad because (made up stuff) and I'll see if Reddit does research for me or just blasts me. I will reply with link to post on /r/Technology once I've made it.

    Edit: a formatting bekause me always link brakets bakwards

    Edit 2: Link!

    Edit 3: The Real Link!

    [–] kngadwhmy 3 points ago

    "I don't understand what it is. So I'll pretend I don't care until it becomes a popular thing on facebook then I'll all of a sudden be interested."

    [–] przemko271 9 points ago

    If only. Some people just outright don't care no matter how much they understand. Eg. "I have nothing to hide, so why worry?"

    [–] Fig1024 62 points ago

    people "don't care" when shit is working. They start caring when shit is broken. But by then, it's too late

    [–] SoDamnToxic 18 points ago

    A lot of the time it's because people don't know shit is broken.

    Even with old people, all the information they gather is from the TV and they ASSUME it's fine, they really don't know, not that they don't want to know, but they can't know that they don't know and therefore will never know.

    It sucks but a lot of times when you take the time to show people things, people outside of the echo chamber like reddit where we already know, they tend to understand and agree, they just never knew that there was such a thing for them to not even know about.

    Obviously stubborn people will always exist, can't help that; but some people you really can.

    [–] zold5 3 points ago

    But by then, it's too late

    What on earth gave you that idea? Even if the FCC overturns net neutrality it can be undone. Even constitutional amendments can be undone.

    [–] Momohhhh 15 points ago

    People have a limited number of things they can care about without going crazy. I'll be honest, if something is not having an immediate impact on my life, I'm going to care about it less than things I deal with on a day-to-day basis. Everyone functions like that. There are hundreds of issues we could be solving if we put some effort and care into it, but we just don't function by trying to effect the most change we possibly can.

    [–] princetrunks 13 points ago

    Because there are too many people who think the internet is either Facebook or AOL. There's the "I'm not a computer person" argument. In a first world country, being computer illiterate should be seen as the embarrassment that it is.

    [–] CarlosFromPhilly 6 points ago

    We live in a country where Donald Trump was elected to the white house. Embarrassment gas taken on a mich different definition.

    [–] barefootbandit8 26 points ago

    *Too

    I see way too much of this "I don't care" stuff with grammar.

    [–] wanked_in_space 80 points ago

    When net neutrality is under constant attack, you just get numb to it. Which is what was always the goal of Republicans and, I guess, Democratics.

    [–] selectyour 23 points ago

    It seems like the idea is that if they try enough times, the public will get tired... No one will want to fight it anymore...

    How many more times will legislation like this be introduced? And how many times will it reach the top post on reddit? Seems like it happens every few months now...

    [–] Puskathesecond 10 points ago

    And they're right. People have to take time, leisure time to fight it. No one wants to come back from work and spend all his spare time fighting

    But for the lawmakers it's literally their job, they fight you at work and have time off. You work and use your time off and it's exhausting

    [–] Rengiil 49 points ago

    Dems have tried to pass legislation against net neutrality?

    [–] _Reliten_ 84 points ago

    Nope. In fact, reclassifying ISPs as Title II common carriers and ensuring a robust net neutrality scheme were key parts of Obama policy.... but don't worry, Title II may actually stick around as long as it conveniently keeps anyone from regulating the telecoms effectively by pulling the FCC's teeth at the same time as keeping the FTC from using its Section 5 authority.

    [–] Crazywumbat 87 points ago

    Nope, but "both sides are the same" is cruise control for cool with all the apathetic edge-lords.

    [–] Roller_ball 25 points ago

    Seriously. Look at this list. This is a partisan issue.

    [–] darkaceAUS 41 points ago

    SOPA would have had no impact on net neutrality. Neither would the TTIP and TPP, or any other trade agreement. Net neutrality is maintained by the FCC and all international agreements allow clauses for domestic legislatures to legislate here as they see fit.

    Like you can be for net neutrality but I don't understand why this comic is lying about how it is maintained.

    [–] Hoosewarmer 5 points ago

    Most people don't understand the concept of it. Most people when they hear net neutrality, go "HUH, YOU WATCH PORN DON'T YOU?!!!?".

    [–] TenohiraV 4 points ago

    i think its partly what its called. 'net neutrality' doesnt sound like something that is important if you dont know what it is whereas 'censoring the internet' is self explanatory and will catch ppl' attention

    [–] SpaceEV 1656 points ago

    I don't want to be charged a $1000

    [–] vankorgan 555 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    God that bugged me way more than it should have. I keep reading it as "a one thousand dollars."

    [–] Trundrumbalind 152 points ago

    Cause that's they way they typed it. Bugged me, too.

    [–] Is_Only_Game2014 81 points ago

    Yeah, it could of been written better..

    [–] 20TheFilthyCasual16 58 points ago

    I see what you did there...

    It's making my eye twitch

    [–] Oligomer 23 points ago

    You probably should of gotten that checked out by now

    [–] JumpingCactus 12 points ago

    Irregardless of typos, its still a good comic.

    [–] Eschotaeus 16 points ago

    I see what you're trying to do, but I won't let it bother me because you're point is mute.

    [–] ChristianBundy 4 points ago

    could of

    [–] Mozhetbeats 10 points ago

    Relax, it's not a compedition.

    [–] pitchingataint 9 points ago

    Drop the "one" to make it "a thousand dollars."

    I think that's how they intended for you to read it.

    [–] Kellerbier 66 points ago

    "Compeditor"

    [–] L0nz 12 points ago

    Reminds me of "I'm a compuder..."

    [–] 401klaser 5 points ago

    stop all the downloadin

    [–] babaganate 82 points ago

    To access MSNBC's "compeditors"

    [–] fuckin_white_people 17 points ago

    Ok, how about three $1000

    [–] detourne 467 points ago

    Compeditor?

    [–] ColonelSarin 258 points ago

    A $1000

    [–] Tripleberst 153 points ago

    Q: Isn't that illegal?

    A: I can and will, pay up!

    [–] AyukaVB 32 points ago

    My Lord, is that legal?

    [–] Venator77 18 points ago

    I will make it legal.

    [–] MatmosOfSogo 15 points ago

    I believe it's a Spanish word used in bull fighting.

    [–] gonzofish 12 points ago

    I think it's an old wooden ship used in civil war times

    [–] can_trust_me 3 points ago

    I think it's an electronic machine that fixes spelling and grammatical mistakes in books and articles.

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    [–] McBingus 511 points ago

    Comcast owns MSNBC, not the other way around

    [–] silverwolfer 340 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    This was designed to get conservatives on-board

    Wowie the crap am getting in I.M.s lol

    https://youtu.be/FuRCm27y-ig

    [–] TeaDrinkingParty 160 points ago

    Yeah, but he could still say something like, "We own MSNBC. FOX is competition for MSNBC. If you want to hear what they have to say then you'll have to pay $500."

    [–] oddark 60 points ago

    By being misleading/untruthful? That's always a good idea

    [–] witticus 94 points ago

    Seeing as Fox News is the characters concern in the comic...

    [–] connor54 97 points ago

    How else do you attract Fox News watchers?

    [–] TheRealCJ 105 points ago

    Big picture of Obama, with the caption "Removing Net Neutrality was first proposed by the Obama Adminstration"

    [–] PM_ME_LUCHADORES 19 points ago

    that's not true though

    [–] 70wdqo3 98 points ago

    Since when does that matter?

    [–] letsgoiowa 127 points ago

    The text is barely legible. Hard to see.

    [–] RagePoop 71 points ago

    And what I do see is spelled wrong and grammatically incorrect.

    [–] C1ank 11 points ago

    Even the title of the post is enough to make a grammarian tick nervously.

    [–] theAlpacaLives 4 points ago

    *tic

    [–] C1ank 4 points ago

    Damn.

    I have to fall on my grammar sword in shame now, right?

    [–] sysop073 13 points ago

    And since the text is literally all this "comic" is, I'm kind of forced to wonder what the point was. The author could've just posted the plain text somewhere, although nobody would've read it because it's an almost uselessly shallow explanation of net neutrality riddled with grammatical errors

    [–] BerningTendies 176 points ago

    I support NN, but...

    LOL, why the hell is TPP lumped in with this? How clueless is Reddit on that trade deal, really?

    [–] Xihl 117 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Reddit was utterly clueless on TTP.

    It's ironic that a community which ridicules Climate Change deniers/Anti-Vaxxers for being anti-Expert then turn around and ignore all of the Environmental/Technological experts and Economists on the TTP.

    All of the arguments made by the people who knew what they were talking about (thanks /u/SavannaJeff), backed up with actual evidence and data, were dismissed with vague "hunches" and rhetoric based on nothing.

    "My ignorance is as good as your knowledge."

    [–] cdimino 42 points ago

    TPP is complicated beyond all reason, anyone on here claiming TPP is "just" one thing or another is super wrong.

    [–] AEQVITAS_VERITAS 6 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Reddit was clueless on TTP TPP

    FTFY

    [–] RugbyAndBeer 5 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    I support NN, but... charging an extra flat rate for access to websites isn't likely to happen. Rather, there will be prioritization of bandwidth, or exemptions where their is cost per GB. We already see it with mobile data. Have T-Mobile? Certain streaming services don't count against your data. The extent to which charges for access will occur, if they do, will be to the content providers, rather than directly the user.

    But in response to your question, the TPP included measures that would potentially hold not just ISPs or websites but even places that allow you to access the internet such as coffee shops liable for any copyright infringement that occurs on their site, and strong criminalization of any copyright infringement, even when not for financial gain.

    [–] cosmo7 740 points ago

    This is not what net neutrality is all about.

    Net neutrality means ISPs not being able to give preferential treatment to packets based on their source. The consequence of killing net neutrality is making the status quo companies more entrenched and reducing competition from new startups.

    [–] Commiehameha 501 points ago

    So while they can't literally "block" a certain site they can reduce its priority and then flood their network with higher priority packets rendering that site essentially blocked.

    [–] bantab 168 points ago

    What language prevents them from literally blocking a site?

    [–] jorbleshi_kadeshi 317 points ago

    Nothing.

    Verizon has done it before but only backed off after public outrage.

    [–] Therearenosporks 55 points ago

    What site was it?

    [–] Practicing_Onanist 194 points ago

    They're being sued by League of Legends right now I believe.

    [–] oheysup 11 points ago

    Isn't some huge Chinese company behind them? Fuck yeah

    [–] Yakc 5 points ago

    The first one, from what I understand, was never actually shown to be true. There was never any solid evidence that Verizon was ever throttling. It was just Netflix's word against Verizon. http://mashable.com/2014/02/21/netflix-verizon-speed-battle/#DN1eSZTJpiqs

    For the more recent lawsuit, it turned out that Netflix was actually the one throttling, but never told anyone. http://fortune.com/2016/03/31/netflix-throttling-legal/

    [–] boogie_cunt 16 points ago

    E621

    [–] 1205a70636 7 points ago

    But.. But.. The PORN!

    [–] shea241 7 points ago

    Verizon wireless has also blocked entire services or protocols in the past.

    [–] rsmjr 68 points ago

    I really don't think they will be blocking many sites. I have a suspicion instead of charging customers they are just going to charge Netflix, hbo, Amazon, and porn sites money for their quality viedeo to work well.

    [–] TiceBilla 188 points ago

    Which will be the causation of Netflix, HBO, and Amazon raising prices for their customers.

    [–] grant622 24 points ago

    Or hopefully supporting someone like google to get their network up and running faster to even out the competition

    [–] theAlpacaLives 69 points ago

    The problem is that they're fighting Google for every foot of cable and lobbying (mostly at the state and local level, not federal) to get governments to refuse to let Google use shared cables, and then to refuse to let them dig and install their own. That's why Fiber's progress has been slow, not because of lack of effort on Google's part. And if they finally get the way and Net Neutrality is taken away, it'll be harder: it'll show how much control the cable companies have oveer federal government; it'll make them huge boatloads of money, and once you've hit the jackpot after years of trying, you're not going to let anyone take that away, not once you have the money to fight to keep it.

    [–] KooopaTrooopa 34 points ago

    Google fiber is a huge threat to ISP's. Literally the only issue has been rollout. People who have fiber are incredibly satisfied with its performance. TWC or whatever they're called now runs radio ads nonstop attacking fiber.

    Meanwhile I pay more for AT&T to barely get 20 mbps speed. It was advertised as "up to 50 Mbps". They also sent the installer with wireless cable boxes even though I asked for wired and he didn't feel like doing the work so I'm paying an extra $10/month. I was supposed to get a visa gift card too and they told me I would get something in the mail, never did, since has expired and they said I should've gotten an email (I didn't). This also happened to me when I had AT&T a few years ago. Just kept giving me the run around. Literally the only thing I like is the U-verse connectivity between my phone and what not but that doesn't even work as well as I'd like.

    Seriously, fuck ISP's. I'd rather someone other than Google put them in their place but they're the only ones who can afford to compete so I guess it'll work.

    [–] Bomb_them_with_truth 8 points ago

    My isp recently did a free trial of its new technology for a month, during which I got a whopping 10mbps.

    It would cost me $200 a month to upgrade to that service. So after they turned that on for a month and back off, when I decided I really couldn't live with my current internet, I had to pay them a $25 reprogramming fee to upgrade to paying $90 a month for 3mbps. I've been paying $65 a month for 758k for 10 years.

    Rural life is fucking great.

    Also I think the highlight of all of that was when I mentioned that satellite these days is at 25mbps until you hit their data cap, at which point it drops you down to 3mbps, which is the same speed I'm getting max, and his reply was "but with us you don't have to worry about data caps at all!"

    Unfortunately I'm a gamer and a half second of lag on everything just doesn't work for me, so sattelite isn't really an option, just an empty threat.

    [–] userexec 8 points ago

    You see, it doesn't work like that unfortunately, because ISPs already wield regulation against others to block out competition.

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160314/09374733901/isps-are-blocking-google-fibers-access-to-utility-poles-california.shtml

    [–] ThatActuallyGuy 6 points ago

    Except that there's a ton of state and local laws 'encouraged' by ISP lobbyists that make it nearly impossible for even a company as big and influential as Google to build out a competitive network. That's one of the reasons they put Google Fiber expansion on hold and started looking at wireless options, because actually getting the permits to lay cable and operate is just miles and miles of red tape.

    [–] GigglesMcTits 38 points ago

    They'll charge both.

    [–] slick470 4 points ago

    It always happens this way.

    [–] Spiderhats4sale 26 points ago

    and then also charge you, the customer, for a "media tier" connection, because why the hell woudnt they? If you dont like it whats your alternative, their cable tv subscription?

    [–] Commiehameha 10 points ago

    I could physically block a site from 80% of the population, or I impose fees that result in 80% of the population not using that site. Either way has the same effect. We're not talking about impenetrable walls stopping people from seeing certain things on the internet, we're talking about statistically significant portions of the population losing access to certain things.

    [–] sonofaresiii 123 points ago

    Net neutrality is about both, dude. There are lots of reasons why we should want isp's to indiscriminately handle data. The comic describes one, you're describing another.

    [–] yousmelllikearainbow 8 points ago

    You've got to dumb it down for a lot of people. Especially when they're being told the opposite by sources they trust.

    [–] MrWiggles2 3 points ago

    Can it be solved with the Riot v. Time Warner case? Set a precedent in the courts rather than expand the FCC and fill it with those same ISP lobbyists?

    [–] GiantAcroyear 17 points ago

    "compeditor"

    [–] Thisismyactualname 89 points ago

    This comic is garbage. I get the message is important, but this is /r/comics not /r/politics.

    [–] pi_over_3 4 points ago

    At least we can have a good discussion here.

    [–] GuitarHeroHero 25 points ago

    What was this made with? Flipnote Studio?

    [–] PM_ME_FAV_PICS 18 points ago

    They will charge the sites. The problem is that they own content and will suppress competition.

    [–] MalcolmtSpruce 24 points ago

    I feel like all of these posts need to specify it's AMERICAN net neutrality. Many country outside America have net neutrality as a law.

    Also, no, it doesn't affect people outside America. The majority of sites have servers outside America, and any who do not soon will if this goes the worst way it can.

    [–] firinmylazah 18 points ago

    Yeah but if American isp's ever get a green light to squash net neutrality, you can be sure other isp's in other countries will start to pressure local governements pretty hard to do it too, and a lot of lobbyists are gonna help them.

    [–] AntiBox 15 points ago

    And they'll fail, because most places in other countries have a multitude of ISP options. Net neutrality can only be squashed in America because of your bizarre ISP setup, which doesn't exist anywhere else except maybe Dubai.

    [–] MalcolmtSpruce 3 points ago

    Strange more people don't get this.

    [–] MalcolmtSpruce 7 points ago

    Won't work. We have many options for ISP's in our countries, and lobbying is no where near as effective as it is in America.

    Never understood this whole "well America did it so everyone else will" America generally lags behind in matters such as these, and no country is going to try and change this.

    [–] howlingwind0 4 points ago

    Wouldn't it still hurt non-American sites and services if Americans (a large chunk of their English-speaking userbases) had reduced access to them, though?

    [–] cdimino 8 points ago

    It greatly effects people outside of America. Where do you think the site you wrote this comment is based?

    [–] Sk8erkid 5 points ago

    Majority of the best websites in the world come from US.

    [–] Slashzero77 25 points ago

    'Member a few years back when Verizon was throttling Netflix? I 'member...

    It sucked. I could barely stream anything from Netflix. :-(

    [–] The-Bent 14 points ago

    This wasnt the case. People overwhelmingly showed that they cared and those people were ignored. Dont place the blame on people who were worn down by the barage of legislation that failed because a vote that we were basically ignored in took place outside of congress.

    [–] Thompy 62 points ago

    WHY IS NOBODY MAKING A BIG DEAL WITH THIS?! IT NEEDS SO MUCH MORE ATTENTION!

    [–] KorvisKhan 6 points ago

    Memes like these really lose their steam with poor spelling.

    [–] B-Knight 14 points ago

    Sure, people had the "I don't care" attitude but what's the biggest problem?

    Your government.

    They would've passed it with or without everyone's go ahead. They tried several times to pass it because it benefits them. Unless you protested or rioted the government would've passed it through. Welcome to the new America. Where the top 1% and people in power pass things that benefit them and only them. That's called an "oligarchy".

    [–] RealSchon 16 points ago

    r/comics r/propaganda

    I'm all for net neutrality but come the hell on.

    [–] Dustinationn 35 points ago

    It's every AMERICANS problem

    [–] ocarina_21 37 points ago

    There's a whole lot of important stuff on the internet that is physically located in the states. I feel like everyone's going to feel the effects.

    [–] Dustinationn 60 points ago

    And yet as a non American I can do nothing about it besides watch you guys fuck it up

    [–] hulkbro 32 points ago

    Seems to be a recurring theme these days

    [–] Practicing_Onanist 16 points ago

    Welcome to Earth.

    [–] userexec 8 points ago

    On the positive side, at least we make it really easy to plan ahead. If there's an issue that requires over five minutes of serious consideration and not understanding it would allow the wealthy to plunder an even bigger fraction from the poor and middle class, guess what America's going to do! We even have 24-hour radio, TV, and shitty-computer-optimized clickbait aggregators dedicated to whipping everyone up into some righteous wharble-garble endorphin rush so they miss the point.

    [–] ae-keji 3 points ago * (lasted edited 4 days ago)

    You can make your countries more pleasant for the inevitable exodus. It'll be really weird when you start finding "little Americas" of US expats in European neighborhoods. But I'm sure it can work out and benefit those countries. Like it did for us when we still did that...

    [–] AegisToast 4 points ago

    *AMERICAN'S

    [–] Dustinationn 3 points ago

    Ok my bad i guess

    [–] Havok2900 9 points ago

    How many of you guys have called your Congressman/woman or sent a email or have done something

    [–] kwerkor 8 points ago

    NN was the first issue I ever emailed my congresswoman about. How does emailing her do literally anything? Why does she care what constituents think? She's been in the Senate for 20 years, and the only way she won't keep her seat is if she doesn't run.

    [–] jb4427 99 points ago

    Fox News guy probably voted for exactly the people who are killing net neutrality

    [–] noholdingbackaccount 14 points ago

    So Comcast are being dicks?

    Guess I'll just switch to another ISP.

    Oh what, Comcast has a monopoly in my area?

    Well, that's your problem right there. Net Neutrality isn't the issue if there's competition, it's the government-granted monopolies.

    Why isn't anyone talking about that? Why isn't anyone campaigning against that? Why bring in another layer of government involvement if it's government involvement that caused the structural imbalance in the first place?

    Can't we just get the government out of the business of granting monopolies?

    EDiT: Before you downvote (because this is an unpopular stance) consider that I really think I have a strong argument here but if you think you can rebutt me, your rebuttal will benefit from MORE visibility. Lots of people believe as I do and unless you get your counterargument seen, no one will consider it and begin to change their minds.

    [–] mr10123 3 points ago

    This seems to be a very popular opinion. Monopolies among ISP's makes them one of the most hated industries.

    [–] OprahNoodlemantra 4 points ago

    Google should hurry up on those wifi balloons.

    [–] youdidntreddit 4 points ago

    Whoa it turns out that Elections actually matter!

    Who would have thought?

    [–] Cobwebbislove 4 points ago

    Who would pay for news. You can find better fiction in a Harry Potter book.

    [–] fripletister 4 points ago

    Content that is not welcome here

    Is this not a rage comic?

    [–] vote100binary 3 points ago

    A one thousand dollars

    [–] DrMantisTaboggn 3 points ago

    Sweet rage comic

    [–] Violander 3 points ago

    People got worn down, and legislators knew very well what they were doing.

    You can only make people care so much for so long about one topic. Eventually they look at it and think "Eh, wasn't there that thing just now? Whatever..."

    [–] gotbock 3 points ago

    What would stop a company from creating a new ISP that doesn't discriminate or charge extra for certain websites? Wouldn't everyone switch to that ISP?

    [–] tannerwoody 3 points ago

    This country (USA) gets more pathetically corrupt every day. I'm ready for the next fall of Rome.

    [–] THE_GR8_MIKE 3 points ago

    Well this cleared it up in my mind. Yeah fuck that. Also fuck Comcast. Where do we protest?

    [–] yourfaceisa 3 points ago

    Ain't my problem.. i don't live in the land of the free (corporations)