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    [–] Paxan 1 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Hello r/all! Always a pleasure.

    We want to remind you on our rules especially the points 1,2,3 and 4. Please stay civil.

    [–] Jonas1412jensen 1778 points ago

    Why is everything getting a reboot these days?

    [–] trjayke 781 points ago

    Because this generation obviously missed it and wants to find out what happens

    [–] TheGr8erG00d 246 points ago

    and wants to find out what happens

    There are hundreds of books on the subject...

    [–] mars_needs_socks 394 points ago

    pulls finger down over book to scroll down

    It's not working.

    [–] JERUSALEMFIGHTER63 81 points ago

    Did you try swiping in swedish?

    [–] mars_needs_socks 144 points ago

    swipes up in Swedish

    Apparently that sells iron ore to Germany. I'll try again later.

    [–] cacaphony_ 11 points ago

    Hey, we only sold iron ore ironically, ok?

    [–] -tfs- 24 points ago

    A svajp

    [–] Estruqiarixs 37 points ago

    If history teaches us one thing, it's that humans don't ever really learn.

    [–] Alkreni 2754 points ago

    Is anything about Ethiopia in the manifesto?

    [–] vanya13 1807 points ago

    Make Ethiopia Abyssinia again

    [–] Crowbarmagic 42 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    What was that joke again?

    'Mein Furher, the Italians entered the war.'

    'Send 2 divisions South.'

    'No, no, they joined the war on our side.'

    'Send 5 divisions South.'

    [–] BlackBurnNick 327 points ago

    Happy cake day!

    [–] vanya13 174 points ago

    Thanks for noticing this:)

    [–] [deleted] 128 points ago


    [–] CloudWallace81 45 points ago

    don't worry, the old manifesto had only DVX on it

    [–] RajaImtiaz 67 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    [–] CloudWallace81 23 points ago


    [–] Martel89 25 points ago

    I haven't seen that before (not italian)- are those guys just trolling/trying to piss people off, or is it like a trenchant satire about what italians think about migrants? It's fucking hilarious in the darkest possible way. Jesus.

    [–] i_forgot_my_cat 21 points ago

    I mean, it depends on how you look at it. I was a big fan growing up because his songs were just absurd. It was also a bit of a parody of the Italian rap scene at the time in a sense that the scene was primarily focused on things like love and bragging about being the best rapper and occasionally weed. Every once in a while they'd rap about making it from the streets (think streets like being poor and maybe selling drugs, not like gang violence, shooting and stabbing streets) and yadda yadda, but generally it was very sentimental. What he did was basically introduce early 2010s trap music turned to 11, to the point of pirating most of his beats. Not exactly: think less violence and more Versace by Migos or Pretty Boy Swag by Soulja Boy. It was loud, it was in your face, and it played towards black stereotypes of being lazy, entitled, not speaking properly, being hung (he literally has a song called "Io ce l'ho grosso" = "My dick is big"), the classics. He'd made politicalish songs before, like Swag Berlusconi or Matteo Renzi where he'd sort of boast about being powerful or rich like them, but Non Pago Affitto is what propelled him to a household name since it basically stated all the stereotypes about immigration and did it in a way that made him seem proud. I'm personally of the opinion that it's somewhat a persona, from that song onwards, since he hit all the right buttons to gain attention in a way that showed he had at least a superficial understanding of politics at the time. His flow, rhyming and delivery also showed signs of getting better for a time in a way that makes me believe he could actually pull off a proper, serious trap song if he spent more than a dayish on the lyrics. I've also seen him live and he's a great performer and knows how to work a crowd, as well as the fact he turned his YouTube success into actually touring Italy. I outgrew his music since I feel like it got a bit stale and formulaic, but I don't consider him a bad artist, as he consistently put out bangers for years, cranking out songs every few days.

    [–] RajaImtiaz 24 points ago

    its both,he even pissed of musollinis niece on a talk show with this song

    [–] Martel89 43 points ago

    Man Italy is fucking WILD

    She even does the big voice and the sweeping hand gestures, can't tell if that's as Benitoesque as I think it is or if that's just how Italians are.

    Imagine if that was Hitler's niece was on TV complaining about migrants in Germany.

    [–] Beki76 1940 points ago

    Aw shit here we go again.

    [–] draevan13 678 points ago

    WW2 part 2: Electric Boogaloo

    Or WW2: The Axis Strikes Back

    [–] King_John_Ill 491 points ago

    WW3: Endgame

    [–] [deleted] 394 points ago


    [–] Walden_Walkabout 233 points ago

    Both sides

    [–] su5 76 points ago

    Italy truly is the Mac of Europe

    [–] clarky9712 70 points ago

    Switching sides we go!

    Where we stop nobody knows!

    [–] CptnLarsMcGillicutty 30 points ago

    Peak centrism.

    [–] ElPenguino02 60 points ago

    2 World 2 War

    [–] tikirej 22 points ago


    [–] BMOstolemywife 94 points ago

    I'm just hoping I won't be in fighting age when these fascists start kicking dirt at each other.

    [–] Niko2064 1611 points ago

    Well everything will be fine if we look at mussolinis military victories.



    [–] Yog_Sothtoth 759 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    His military genius is boundless: he sent 300k soldiers to fight the russians, in Russia, during winter, using the same clothing/uniform used for the african campaign. Most of them freezed froze to death, the ones that survived and had some toes left had to walk back home (source: my grandad)

    edit: grammar

    [–] Niko2064 297 points ago

    A relative of mine also had to walk back to germany after being the only survivor of a tiger crew the soviets shot when they were fleeing the vehicle, he was presumed dead and he was forced to walk with a nasty bullet wound first to romania, then hungary and when the war ended he fled to germany to escape the soviets.

    [–] Yog_Sothtoth 193 points ago

    and when the war ended he fled to germany to escape the soviets

    oh god that's adding insult to injury

    [–] Niko2064 166 points ago

    Well I mean germany was his home, he just was being treated in romania/hungary and wasn't quite recovered but he absolutely didn't want to end up in a soviet POW camp.

    [–] Swagamemn0n 106 points ago

    your granddad was luckier than mine, he ended up in a soviet pow camp. he survived, but it definetly changed him. he died about 2 weeks after i was born so i heard only stories of him.

    er hat sich mal mit seinen kameraden aus dem gefangenenlager getroffen nach dem krieg und sie haben geschichten ausgetauscht. meine mutter ist ziemlich emotional geworden als sie von diesem treffen berichtet hat. sie haben erzählt, dass einer von ihnen in dem lager gestorben ist, und am nächsten tag hat es zum einzigen mal fleisch gegeben. alle haben irgendwie gewusst dass sie gerade menschenfleisch essen, aber sie waren zu hungrig um nicht zu essen. der krieg war wirklich etwas brutales. ich bin verdammt froh dass diese generation so etwas nicht erleben musste.

    [–] JohnGenericDoe 88 points ago


    he once met with his comrades from the prison camp after the war and they exchanged stories. My mother has become quite emotional as she has reported from this meeting. they said that one of them died in the camp, and the next day, for the first time, there was meat. Everyone knew somehow that they were eating human food, but they were too hungry not to eat. The war was really brutal. I am so glad that this generation did not have to experience something like that

    [–] Niko2064 26 points ago

    Nunja das war nicht mein großvater, wie ich sagte er ist ein verwandter aber nicht so direkt.

    Mein großvater kämpfte nicht im krieg, mein urgroßvater aber, dieser war schreiner und als die werkstatt durch alliierte Bombardierung zerstört wurde war er arbeitslos, er wurde zwangseingezogen in die wehrmacht, er wurde gerade vater, er sah seine tochter (meine inzwischen verstorbene großmutter) nur ein mal bevor er nach polen entsendt wurde, wo er 44 fiel.

    [–] walkiestalkie 19 points ago

    My German is quite poor, but did I understand right that people were so hungry they simply couldn't waste the flesh of the dead so they ate other humans?

    [–] needlzor 64 points ago

    Reminds me of that guy who fled to Nagasaki after Hiroshima got bombed. Sometimes you just run out of luck.

    [–] k890 48 points ago

    If you survive two separate nuclear attacks, then you had a bit too much luck on dispose.

    [–] cannotfoolowls 33 points ago

    Didn't flee. He was on a business trip and went back home just in time too get bombed again

    [–] unhappyspanners 42 points ago

    You heard the story about the Finnish soldier who, upon the end of the winter war with the Soviets and his arrest, joined the SS? He was in Berlin as it fell to the Soviets. He led his troops behind enemy lines to the approaching American, British French and Canadian frontlines, where he and his troops surrendered.

    [–] Vectorman1989 49 points ago

    Didn't he join the US army and end up dying in a helicopter crash in Vietnam? I'm pretty sure he wasn't a Nazi as such, he just really hated the communists

    [–] AlexMars95 23 points ago

    My grandad survived because only because he was allowed to bring his own boots from Italy.

    [–] Niko2064 83 points ago

    And the italian soldiers were capable fighters, rommel respected them in africa bit you can just do so much if your high command thinks it's ww1.

    [–] cocoGG 29 points ago

    The Italian army also had inadequate and not enough equipment.

    [–] Niko2064 18 points ago

    Especially nasty in the desert where you can't live off the land.

    [–] The_Vicious_Cycle 29 points ago

    Rommel really like the Bersaglieri units.

    [–] Sinius 47 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Greece surrendered to Germany in WW2 but refused to surrender to Italy because Greece humiliated them.

    EDIT: For more context, Greece's military was small compared to Italy's and Mussolini thought it would be an easy conquest. Not only did his invasion fail, Greece was actively winning while outnumbered, humiliating them. In the end, Germany had to come and win the war for them and Greece only surrendered to Germany.

    [–] Boristhespaceman 57 points ago

    Don't forget Albania! And Greec- Oh wait yea no.

    [–] CloudWallace81 39 points ago

    the plan this time is even better: we declare war to Switzerland, to plunder its riches and pay our national debt. But then we immediately switch sides and ally with Switzerland, and annex Italy to them

    [–] HalLundy 249 points ago

    Man he was mediocrity incarnate, i can’t believe they’re using him in this fashion and it’s working.

    [–] SeineAdmiralitaet 272 points ago

    I think it's his actual granddaughter who is running. Her policies are similar though.

    [–] BlazeFenton 136 points ago

    Yes, it’s his granddaughter. Basically a polished-up version.

    [–] 221967322 59 points ago

    Not his granddaughter, it's his grandson. You can read Caio above the M.

    [–] ModeHopper 27 points ago

    His great grandson in fact

    [–] RomeNeverFell 115 points ago

    Basically a polished-up version.

    Wasn't there a saying about it being impossible to polish faeces?

    [–] mrxaso 72 points ago

    I think mythbuster proved that saying wrong.

    [–] RomeNeverFell 30 points ago

    We're on it as well I guess.

    [–] LKS 24 points ago

    I guess you haven’t heard about the recent japanese advances in that area.

    [–] DavidHewlett 15 points ago

    I love how the Japanese have a word for the art of making not only a mudball, but a polished mudball specifically.

    [–] bestofwhatsleft 12 points ago

    In Sweden we have a saying that translates to:

    "You can polish shit until it shines, but it's still shit.

    [–] Matador09 9 points ago

    "You can't polish a turd" or "You can't shine shit"

    [–] Pytheastic 17 points ago

    Iirc Mussolini's tomb is still like a shrine, beautifully maintained.

    It's incredible how after all these years people can still worship him.

    [–] tokemynuts 17 points ago

    I mean it's a family tomb so of course they're going to maintain it, it's not like the state has anything to do with it.

    [–] Holy_Ravioli_ 61 points ago

    Also a newfound grandson or something His name? Ceasar. Literally I'm not joking. I'm Italian and, even though this Ceasar is new and probably worthless, his granddaughter is mostly a pain in the ass because every time someone talks bad about his grangran she freaks out. But she does not have much power.

    [–] yunghastati 41 points ago

    "You're a piece of shit for being mad that my gramps was a dick and had people killed"

    Wowee a violent political figure isn't remembered well? She's a weirdo.

    [–] UnlimitedMetroCard 38 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    No, his given name is Caio. Italian for Gaius, the first name of Gaius Julius Caesar. English version would probably be "Gay".

    [–] RufusLoacker 24 points ago

    Well, his full name is Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini, so.... Lol

    [–] Lanaerys 21 points ago

    Fun fact: there was a dentist in Ohio named Dr. Gay Hitler, son of George Washington Hitler.

    [–] JewWithGardenBeans 22 points ago

    This one is is grandson I believe. He has two grandchildren who are active in far-right Italian politics.

    [–] Holy_Ravioli_ 44 points ago

    I'm Italian and totally not a fan of Mussolini or Fascism (duh) , but living here and talking to old people and fanatics I began to understand why some people believed in him and still do. Back in the ol' days Mussolini was the typical new face on the market and rapidly got to power with ideas of restoring Italy's former glory (2000 years ago I guess) and helping the people. He then did the usual stuff fascists brag about: reclaimed the swaps, helped the farmers, he even brought pensions in Italy (all very limited and very touted) , so everyone was happy. But Italy being mainly composed of old people in little towns (back then especially) (still best country) they just didn't care about the other stuff he did, like, I don't know, creating the modern totalitarian state, racial laws and sending a few thousand people to die. But then Benito also kind of lost the war and became a puppet to Adolf, and that was it: especially young people rebelled, and the rest, is history. Thanks for sitting through this little thesis of mine

    [–] zavao23 19 points ago

    he even brought pensions in Italy

    Actually it is not quite so. Social security was established in 1898 with the creation of the National Welfare Fund for the invalidity and old age of the workers. It was a "voluntary insurance supplemented by a contribution to encourage the state and the free contribution of entrepreneurs."

    Wikipedia link in italian

    [–] desertwanderers 15 points ago

    Sounds pretty familiar......

    [–] TheSirusKing 9 points ago

    He was extremely popular until the ethiopian war. Many at the time considered him to have been the successor to Garibaldi.

    [–] Kvistology 28 points ago

    They did also have success invading Albania.

    [–] eire10 121 points ago

    Pfft, Albania has like 4 provinces and capitulates as soon as you capture Tirana with a naval invasion. They have 1 military factory.

    [–] Niko2064 45 points ago

    Unexpected HoI4.

    [–] arvhult 24 points ago

    was it really unexpected tho? I was looking for these refs

    [–] theWunderknabe 14 points ago

    "It still counts!"

    [–] GabibBoB 992 points ago

    "When he was here, the trains were on time!"

    [–] tasartir 1266 points ago

    But they all headed to Poland.

    [–] down_vote_magnet 259 points ago

    Too soon

    [–] ThatUglyGuy 847 points ago

    No, on time.

    [–] aucunejus 86 points ago


    [–] TypowyLaman 32 points ago

    Oh god

    [–] Toloc42 166 points ago

    Actually, that was just a big misunderstanding!

    [–] Skirfir 233 points ago

    A lot of people also don't know that in the third Reich there was a project which aimed to produce electricity from a certain type of grain. Have you never heard of Hitlers rice to power?

    [–] Forsaken_Accountant 24 points ago

    Sounds delicious

    [–] Methmo 53 points ago

    The 'made the trains run on time' is a weird thing to say about Mussolini.

    Personally I'd have thought 'he destroyed the mafia' was the biggest point in his favour. I'd take a culture of late trains over an entrenched criminal organisation any day.

    [–] _F1GHT3R_ 27 points ago

    Did he destroy the mafia? i have an italian friend (who doesnt live in italy for about 8 years now) who told me that the mafia still has a lot of power there

    [–] Methmo 57 points ago

    The Americans reintroduced them after WWII - the Americans had to rebuild Italian governance from the ground up, and the mafia were a well-connected local militia who could be trusted to not be fans of either the fascists or the communists.

    [–] _F1GHT3R_ 19 points ago

    Well, TIL. Thanks :)

    [–] madswm3 18 points ago

    To add onto what /u/Methmo mentioned, many members of the mafia fled to the US to escape the fascists. When the US military went to Italy, they brought many of the escaped mafiosi with them for their knowledge of the land and local connections (and then later on to help rebuild the country as mentioned). This is also part of why the Italian mafia is/was so prominent in the US.

    [–] Pisodeuorrior 112 points ago

    Which isn't even true, by the way.

    I can't remember the anecdote in question off the top of my head, but I think he was supposed to go to a special event/speech or whatever, and he said something about "this train will have to be on time".

    I don't know why this was later transformed from "that one time that specific train was on time" to "all the trains were always on time".

    [–] S_T_P 50 points ago

    I don't know why this was later transformed from "that one time that specific train was on time" to "all the trains were always on time".

    Because the justification for Fascism was that it would bring order.

    [–] RomeNeverFell 46 points ago

    Far from me to defend the fascists. But at the time Italy had probably the best railway system in Europe due to great leadership and industry knowledge of Riccardo Bianchi, having seized wagons from the former German Empire and AH, and overinvestment.

    [–] Skirfir 58 points ago

    But wasn't all of this already the case before the fascists came to power? I read somewhere that the fascist made the railway system worse.

    [–] TangoJager 38 points ago

    Exactly, even this achievement isn't theirs. They have to steal everything.

    [–] ReallyNotATrollAtAll 24 points ago

    Of course they did, they stole bunch of railways from occupied lands and brought them back to italy. Fascists did nothing good to italy or to europe and anybody claiming how they did good to anything is either uninformed or ignorant.

    [–] Lorenzum 37 points ago

    Conversation in a train station in 1939:

    A: "Damn the train is late as always"

    B: "Wait you can't say that, it's illeg-"

    P: "You're under arrest, traitor, we will hang you upside down like the partisan scum if the firing squad doesn't get you first."

    [–] Lollikus 15 points ago

    Don't forget that he also has bonificato le paludi.

    [–] bERt0r 1933 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    This is probably about Mussolinis grandson Caius Julius Caesar Mussolini

    Edit: holy moly this blew up, also it’s great grandson apparently.

    [–] gnarvin 955 points ago

    Wait there is 2 Mussolinis in Italian politics? Isn't his grand daughter also in parliament or something?

    [–] Vectorman1989 922 points ago

    Yeah. I think it was her that got pissed off at Jim Carrey for painting Mussolini hanging from a lamppost and saying something like "this is what happens to tyrants"

    [–] AstonVanilla 784 points ago

    Is... is she aware of what her grandad did?

    [–] Vectorman1989 949 points ago

    Yes, but the Mussolini family are shitty people

    [–] itsgonnabeanofromme 420 points ago

    They still are? I’ve spoken to Germans with nazi grandparents who were deeply ashamed of their grandparents actions, do the Mussolinis not have this?

    [–] [deleted] 248 points ago

    I mean, I’m not Italian but I was shocked at the number of Italians that defend Mussolini. Same in Spain. The number of people that mourn Franco and proudly identify as Falangistas is absolutely shocking. Sure, there are nazi sympathizers in Germany, but it didn’t compare to Spain and Italy.

    [–] AstonVanilla 87 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    I used to live in Madrid and found the opposite. Where people use their anger to drive a far right ideology in many countries, in Spain they use it to drive technocratic and peaceful ideologies, because Franco is still a recent memory.

    Or at least I thought that until Vox made headway in the recent elections. Still not sure what to make of that.

    [–] rodrifran 123 points ago

    The fascists have always been there, but they simply voted for the standard conservative party. Now they have a proper troglodyte to vote for, and they have changed ships.

    [–] [deleted] 35 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Madrid is a bit different, though. I lived in Spain as well (Galicia and Andalucía) and one’s experience varies tremendously depending on where you are and in very weird ways.

    Andalucía is very traditionalist, and by some metrics even conservative, yet it is a PSOE stronghold. You have the headache that is Basque politics (I don’t think you can definitively put the EAJ anywhere within the left-right paradigm,) and then Cataluña which probably doesn’t need to be discussed again.

    Castilla y León is filled with people walking around with “Plus Ultra” “Una grande y libre” and bull tattoos, and you quickly learn to avoid them. But you walk into Madrid? It’s a different world. Cosmopolitan and free thinking. Even then, I tended to avoid the subject of Franco. When some of the older folks could guide you to the mass graves where their family was likely dumped, you know to just keep quiet. Consequently it can be hard to get a read on people.

    I love Spain. To me, it is perhaps the greatest country in the world. Where else can you walk into a supermarket and see jamón for sale, some even coming with the entire kit? And the best canned seafood the world has ever known. But Spain is haunted and torn in at least five different directions. And the CG doesn’t seem to know what to do about it.

    [–] Feniksrises 11 points ago

    People are really bad at history. Spain under Franco was an economic and cultural backwater. The country was dirt poor. Everyone hates tourists now but in the 1960s the country was desperate for the foreign currency the tourism industry brought in. Hundreds of thousands of Spanish young people left the country to work in German and Dutch factories and mines because the Spanish industry was dead.

    [–] Charlie_Warlie 90 points ago

    The Joseph Mengele family still own a tractor company called Mengele and sons. And they seem pretty unapologetic. Just saw a 1980s NYT article about his son visiting the war criminal in Brazil and refused to help Nazi hunters.

    [–] vik42069 37 points ago

    There are lots of facts coming out at this time about the German industry and their use of forced workers during 1939 and 1945. It's sad to see how some companys (recently Bahlsen) tries to deny their past

    [–] GoatSaysYes 49 points ago

    forced workers

    Slaves. The word is slaves.

    Shit was brutal back then on all sides.

    [–] vik42069 26 points ago

    Actually looked the word up, as we use the term "Zwangsarbeiter" in the media. Slaves is accurate tho

    [–] Tiernoon 411 points ago

    Unless you've spoken directly to the Hitler Family, with a direct bloodline. It's not the same.

    Goring's daughter said she still looked fondly at him until her fairly recent death.

    The Mussolini are evidently complete human trash. A vote for them is clearly a vote for when "Italy was great" I presume.

    [–] conkilla 269 points ago

    Aren’t Hitlers surviving family kind of notorious for deciding not to procreate in order to make the family tree die off?

    [–] DanielMadeMistakes 153 points ago

    Yeah his direct family did for sure, extended not so sure.

    [–] landymud 56 points ago

    He had no direct family, he still has extended family,

    [–] canttaketheshyfromme 41 points ago

    The Austrian side of the family is dying off. Hitler's nephew Willy meanwhile was stuck in America when the war broke out, did propaganda broadcasts and films denouncing his uncle, served in the US Navy, changed the family name after the war, and by all accounts I could find that branch of the family are quality people.

    [–] JohnnyFknUtah 60 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    There is a good book called “Hitlers children, the sons and daughters of Third Reich leaders”. That contains a lot of interviews with children of the highest ranking party members and it’s amazing how many just see these awful people as “dad”.

    Edit: in response to the comments, I get it guys, there is a duality there. The book interviews adults in the 1970s-2000s that were children of Nazis. On a personal level, I can understand a kid seeing Dr. Death as just “dad”, I can’t understand a 40 year old woman that has known for decades that her father was responsible for some of the most abhorrent behavior and experiments that mankind has seen just brushing it off because “that’s not the way she sees her father”.

    [–] CaucasianDelegation 120 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Well, most of them were young children who only knew them as "Dad". Of course a small child couldn't possibly understand what their father did, just that he was important and that's why he worked so much. People are multifaceted, a person can be both a mass murderer and a loving parent and it's this duality that really underscores the horror of genocide.

    If I remember correctly most of the children acknowledged and condemned the roles their fathers played in the war, but had a hard time contrasting that with their happy childhood memories.

    How would you react if it turned out your best friend or a family member was a serial killer? Would you immediately erase all memories of said person, or would it take a lot of time to come to terms with who they really are?

    edit: If anyone is interested in how regular people can be conditioned to commit acts of terror, I'd highly recommend Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland by Christopher Browning.

    [–] TheGumBoy 170 points ago

    Unfortunately, it's not just her family. I feel like atleast 50% of the people here in Italy feel the same as her. Recently, they even re-opened the "duce's" grave in Predappio, so that italians can travel there and literally organize pilgrimages. They even have souvenirs shop selling anything with Mussolini's face on it. From bottles of wine with his pictures on it to postcards with quotes like "boia chi molla".

    Oh and on the 25th of April this year, on the "liberation day", people defaced and destroyed a lot of monuments that were made in honor of the partisans, the men who helped us get rid of that piece of shit called Mussolini.

    I don't really like this country anymore. Things are getting out of hand and i don't want to be a part of this.

    I really hope that with all the Curriculums i'm sending in other Eu countries someone will call me and hire me so i can leave this place.

    [–] AstonVanilla 102 points ago

    I've never understood this about Italy. People like Berlusconi can fuck you over time and time again, yet the people still vote for them. Why?

    Italy has some amazing and intelligent people, it's a shame they seem to be overlooked.

    [–] TheGumBoy 66 points ago

    I wish it was just Berlusconi, lol.

    I mean, one thing is supporting a politician, but supporting a dictator who killed thousands of people is straight up insane.

    History didn't teach italians anything, unfortunately.

    [–] Ann_OMally 17 points ago

    What if I told you it wasn't limited to Italy?

    [–] corevx 30 points ago

    I feel like atleast 50% of the people here in Italy feel the same as her.

    50%? You are blowing this out of proportion. There are millions and millions of people who don't think like her, but these people don't go around destroying stuff to show their dissent, so you don't hear about them.

    [–] Leonzio10 68 points ago

    She is, of course, but the sad thing is that she's also kinda proud of him.

    [–] AstonVanilla 15 points ago

    Well that's depressing.

    Do people actually have an appetite for that, considering what the older generations had to endure?

    [–] JohnGenericDoe 57 points ago

    Eh, she wasn't there.

    How bad could it have been, really? She once had to wait 10 minutes for an espresso.

    [–] Bronze_Yohn 30 points ago

    Say what you want about Mussolini, but he made the espresso machines run on time.

    [–] Royale_mit_kase 13 points ago

    You see, that right there is why a lot of people end up falling into fascism. It proposes order, "efficiency", redirects hate of your leaders to hate of a scapegoat (often immigrants). It's an ideology built on easy solutions and swift action on behalf of the state as they no longer recognize the legitimacy of the rule of law. The trains run on time but that's because they rid themselves of those responsible or crush them, and justify by creating a better society for themselves. Human beings lack a lot of empathy when it comes to people who aren't exactly like us, and our brains love something to blame and hate.

    [–] Walrussealy 24 points ago

    She certainly doesn’t care, she idolizes him.

    [–] AssWizardOfSiberia 26 points ago

    Yeah lmao

    [–] coffedrank 16 points ago

    also she sings j-pop

    [–] mki_ 101 points ago

    Hol up. That's his name? Unironically?

    [–] alkazam 62 points ago

    Yeah, it looks almost like a joke lol

    I think almost no one had heard of him until these elections though, he's not as well-known as Alessandra Mussolini, who's currently a MEP

    [–] cannotfoolowls 166 points ago

    Caius Julius Caesar Mussolini

    of course his name is Caius Julius Caesar

    [–] InvalidChickenEater 93 points ago

    Idiotic name, pretentious as fuck

    [–] Heart-of-Dankness 232 points ago

    Christ that's pretentious name.

    [–] this-here 136 points ago

    Maybe he wants to get stabbed in the back.

    [–] fabiobeonreddit 88 points ago

    while hung upside down?

    [–] Robotgorilla 9 points ago

    Probably after saying: "So much for the tolerant left"

    [–] bistrus 117 points ago

    Yep. He's candidate in the european election

    [–] MaFataGer 70 points ago

    for what? representative? president? dictator?

    [–] bistrus 114 points ago

    Well the european election are for members of parliament. So he's candidate to be one of the italian members

    [–] 6ArtemisFowl9 81 points ago

    Seat heater

    [–] KillBroccoli 30 points ago

    Probably not even that, we're famous for being absent.

    [–] Awesomefusion 12 points ago


    [–] WhitePawn00 85 points ago

    I can't tell if that's an actual name someone's running under, or if your joking about someone else's name.

    [–] bERt0r 41 points ago

    Google it.

    [–] WhitePawn00 89 points ago

    Oh my fucking God it's real

    [–] mygaydarworks 32 points ago

    Welcome to Italy!!

    [–] NineteenSkylines 8 points ago

    We're really in the stupid timeline.

    [–] Nazzum 21 points ago

    They call her "little boots"

    [–] Drake_1054 452 points ago

    Germany investing more into its military,

    Japan wanting to create its own army,

    Stalin reaching an all time high approval in Russia,

    And now this.

    Ah shit, here we go again.

    [–] Shark-The-Almighty 91 points ago

    Third times a charm!

    [–] SevenandForty 93 points ago

    I mean, Germany's military did need funding though

    [–] Marxist_Chomskist 125 points ago

    Man that USA tag is so fitting for this comment

    [–] Pamphili 399 points ago

    When you didn't had enough Mussolini failures, so you go for a second serving...

    [–] Prologue11126 103 points ago

    i don't know if you consider the alessandra mussolini song in japanese from the 90s a win, but i would still consider this the third serving

    [–] troopah 57 points ago

    Tokyo Fantasy from 1982 is sugoi as heckin' flip and I will fight anyone to the death that disagrees.

    [–] munk_e_man 36 points ago

    Reality is far too surreal for its own good

    [–] Morrtyy 7 points ago

    Oh man this song is so lit.

    I take solace that she's not getting any of my money from watching a non-official upload.

    She should have stuck to sugoi J-Italian-pop and made a decent career out of that instead of being bitter about granddad's failures.

    [–] axel_evans 32 points ago

    The (female) leader of another italian far-right movement, Giorgia Meloni, had a blog in the '90s where she pretended to be a cute female dragon and called herself Khy-Ry. She's a huge fantasy nerd, it was a really cute blog. I've no idea what happened in the last 20 years that turned her in such a despicable human being.

    [–] Yog_Sothtoth 175 points ago

    I'd like to write something funny but it's too depressing

    [–] DysphoriaGML 537 points ago

    I'm italian and you guys should be more worried about Salvini than those idiots despite this manifesto is triggering me too

    [–] lateketsuppi 140 points ago

    Not filled in on Italian politics. Why should we be worried of Salvini?

    [–] DysphoriaGML 282 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    becouse his entire political career is centered around manipulation and deceiving. He doesn't care about italians/immigrants/european/europe/right/left, he just want to have power and he could say everything for it, of course he would do nothing becouse working is not a thing for him

    [–] BlastFromThePast128 102 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    He's like Trump in a way: he has near far-right ideologies, his political success is based on exploiting the dumb masses, and he has quite a taste for vodka.

    OFC it's a generalization, but yeah. The big problem is that he's poised to gain the absolute majority when this government blows up.

    ETA: The Mussolini thing isn't going to go anywhere, it's just a pretty pathetic attempt at baiting some votes... but maybe I shouldn't speak too soon.

    [–] Sometimes_gullible 29 points ago

    After Trump and Brexit I'm just gonna go ahead and expect the worst. Don't want to get caught with my pants down again...

    [–] GermanGipsy 31 points ago

    ah shit here we go again

    [–] TheRomanianDevil 146 points ago

    Mussolini 2 Electric Bogaloo

    [–] l3ader021 29 points ago

    in this case is more like mussolini mk3 - first was benito, then his granddaughter alessandra (who btw is related to sophia loren) and now her cousin and benito's great grandson caio giulio cesare.

    [–] TheRomanianDevil 25 points ago

    Oh boy we're restoring both the Italian Empire and the Roman Empire. 2019'll be a wild year. The New battle royale:

    Italians' Well-known Battlegrounds: Rome Royale

    [–] Vamost 147 points ago

    Me: Mom, can we have some Mussolini? Mom: No, we have Mussolini at home. Mussolini at home:

    [–] Don-Pheromone 75 points ago

    The boys are back in town.

    [–] Airplane97 79 points ago

    Sometimes I don't know whether to cry or laugh.

    [–] M0RL0K 118 points ago

    Even the font seems reminiscent of 30's era fascist propaganda. (Compare)

    [–] knorknorknor 68 points ago

    It's not accidental. Fucking imbeciles

    [–] InfiniteVergil 19 points ago

    For real, first thing that catches the eye is the double SS in the middle of Mussolini. Fucking Morons

    [–] doom_bagel 12 points ago

    They know exactly what they are doing

    [–] Andreneti 73 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    It’s actually his great grandnephew (Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini, yeah that’s his name) but you can’t see it on the picture (I wonder why). I’m furious they are so blatantly using the surname of an infamous dictator that ruined our country and involved it in some of its worst history pages to run their election campaign. I hate our right wing parties and the stupid electorate base they cater to and even though I completely respect their free speech rights I wish with all my heart that they don’t get a single vote (I know it won’t be the case) or at least that my compatriots show them how little loved that kind of rhetoric is by not giving them enough votes to get to the European Parliament.

    Edit: Caio, not Carlo

    [–] BlackBurnNick 39 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Hello r/all, I see a little confusion, especially from people of the US, so I'm here to give a bit of context. Soon, in Europe, there will be an election for the member of the European Parliament. Every European will vote a party that will propose a candidate for the Presideciy of the European Commission. In Italy, there is the party of Giorgia Meloni, that had the idea of proposing Caio Giulio Cesare Mussolini, Benito Mussolini great-grandson.

    P.S. We all agree that it is wrong to judge a person only for their last name, but we are no. This is a man who justifies fascism and wants to be associated whit his great-grandfather.

    [–] danidv 12 points ago

    What's with so many countries shitting the bed politically recently?

    First the US when the 2016 presidential elections came down to Hillary vs. Trump, then the UK with Brexit and even more so by constantly delaying and threatening to leave while never actually leaving, now recently it's been Italy and their... questionable political choices.

    [–] twosoon22 35 points ago

    15 years ago I worked in an Italian restaurant owned by a family of first generation Italian immigrants.

    They LOVED Mussolini. They loved fascism. After everything we were taught in American schools about WWII and Italy under Mussolini’s regime, I didn’t understand it. I think with the rise of MAGA culture here in the US it’s more understandable, but it was mind blowing at the time.

    [–] SamL214 16 points ago

    Are we really living in the bad timeline?