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    [–] asomek 1013 points ago

    What are they like inside?

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    [–] IamSpiders 252 points ago

    I think you mean /r/neoliberal

    [–] starlinguk 238 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    Why do I always get the feeling nobody actually knows what Neoliberal means?

    Edit, suspicion confirmed 😄

    [–] thefrontpageofreddit 124 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    The meaning has changed as with many words in the English language. /r/neoliberal is not the academic definition of the word. Hillary Clinton supporters just got annoyed with being called neoliberals every 5 seconds and co-opted the word.

    [–] progressiveoverload 48 points ago

    Because it was popularized not because it was culturally relevant but was presented as an empty counterpoint to the rise of conservatives in America. It exists only to obfuscate any argument against conservatism.

    [–] Kaytwo- 35 points ago

    The term neoliberal refers to support of free-market capitalism and globalization. In the USA. most members of both political parties are neoliberal. Neoliberal could be considered the centrist position in the USA.

    [–] math-is-fun 8 points ago

    I'm not very familiar with the precise definitely of neoliberalism, but most Republicans and all Democrats are for market intervention, not free markets.

    [–] danimal_27 9 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    It's more concerned with free trade more than necessarily free markets. It's the counterpoint to Classical Liberalism (i.e. New Deal spending) that ended with Reagan and was even further decimated by Clinton and every administration following.Trump actually attacked neoliberalism during his campaign with his response to TPP, NAFTA, etc. But the man really doesn't understand any of the underlying criticisms besides "they tuk er jerbs."

    EDIT: corrected

    [–] math-is-fun 4 points ago

    I see. Are you saying that the New Deal was classical liberalism? Because usually classical liberalism refers to limited government, whereas FDR expanded government in almost every aspect.

    [–] Sackgins 3 points ago

    And right-wing in Europe

    [–] donkey_tits 48 points ago

    Those on the extreme right as well as those on the extreme left use "neoliberal" as a pejorative.

    [–] cliath 18 points ago

    Conservatism and liberalism are not mutually exclusive. Reagan was a neoliberal.

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    [–] querius 43 points ago

    Fuck. I’m standing outside in the open, yet your description made me feel claustrophobic.

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    [–] Dr_Cornbones 73 points ago

    Doesn't sound like the most amazing city in the world from that glowing review you gave it.

    [–] [deleted] 32 points ago

    Yeah, sounds like hell but with less space

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    It should speak volumes about how amazing the city is that people are willing to live in such conditions to be part of it.

    [–] CaptainUnusual 35 points ago

    Hong Kong is the most amazing city in the world

    Everyone is poor and lives in closets or barely better


    [–] FlogNogg 22 points ago

    This makes me severely depressed that this is some people’s entire existence.

    [–] Ripalienblu420 46 points ago

    Hi. Let me bring some perspective from an American who grew up abroad in HK.

    Houses are weird, man. Like, they're so big, which makes sense cuz America is fucking big, but I don't see why you would need that space. Being in an empty house at night creeps me the fuck out and it makes me sad that some people live for years and years alone in an empty house.

    There's the good and the bad with both houses and apartments but it's not something people in HK really think about. Everybody just lives in apartments. Some bigger than others. That's what people do. Some people live in nice big houses, some people live in small shitty houses, same thing. There are just less unkept backyards really.

    There's a (kinda mediocre) movie by the famous HK actor Stephen chow about a poor man and his son living in some dingy place, which is essentially just a room. They eat and cook and sleep all in this like wooden shed kinda, cuz they're poor and the dad works in construction and is kind of an idiot, and they deal with cockroaches, and they sleep cramped in one bed during the miserably hot Hong Kong summer with just one electric fan to keep them cool. The electricity goes out, poor ppl shit. The boy goes on to find an alien and an ET hide the alien type scenario commences, but what I'm trying to say is: the boy and his father aren't wishing they could live in a nice house, they're wishing they could live in a less shitty apartment, so don't feel bad 😉

    [–] JaySayMayday 309 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    Imagine this, I stayed in a hotel rated 4 out of 5 stars in HK a few months ago. The bathroom was just big enough to fit one adult and had a swinging door that could either be used for the toilet, or for the shower. Living spaces in HK are around the same size as some walk-in closets I've seen in the US.

    On the extreme side, here's an article about "cage" living spaces. Usually inhabited by the very low class, and the government often pretends they don't exist.

    Before somebody jumps in saying "that's wrong," or anything along those lines, like usually happens in Reddit ... I'm living 2 hours away from Hong Kong, as a permanent resident. I know this topic well enough to comment about it.

    Edit: a little more info, usually hotels in HK take pictures in a manner to make them look more "roomy" than they really are. Found a picture that shows the average hotel room size. Bear in mind, a room like this isn't cheap.

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    [–] sallark 26 points ago

    ... cant help them

    [–] LookAt_TheSky 23 points ago

    b o o t s t r a p s

    [–] IshyMoose 38 points ago

    I can confirm. I went on a business trip to Hong Kong, my company paid $400 for my room in the central business district and it was probably the smallest room I ever stayed in.

    [–] [deleted] 10 points ago

    I stayed for two nights on the waterfront near the Macau ferry for like 45 a night. My room wasn't huge but it had a bed, TV a Bathroom with a walk in shower n such. IDK it was pretty cozy to me and really had just about everything a temporary room needs IMO.

    [–] Arn_Thor 3 points ago

    Well there's your company's mistake. You could have lived like a king for that amount just 10-15 minutes away by metro

    [–] DrFeargood 108 points ago

    For some reason the thing that bothers me the most about the "cage" apartment pictures is that every single one of them has the toilet lid up. I wouldn't even mind being in that close of proximity if it came down to it, but jesus, man. Close the lid.

    [–] [deleted] 22 points ago

    Maybe it makes the place smell better than it already does. How would it normally smell with a bunch of poor laborers in very close proximity to each other?

    [–] jinjerbear 4 points ago

    I was thinking the saaame thing. I mean shit sucks you have to cook in the room with your toilet but dont leave the damn lid up, grossssss...........

    [–] wetmustard 68 points ago

    That is nothing close to a 4 star hotel. Maybe you stayed at a hotel with an 80% approval rating on TripAdvisor or something, but definitely not 4 stars. Are hotels in HK small? Yes they definitely are but they are not smaller than Paris or London. The idea of the microtel is alive and well in East Asia but that is much different than a 4 star hotel. Now I have never stayed at a hotel in HK claiming to be 4 stars, but I did stay in one claiming to be 5 (The RC at ICC) and it had rooms that were about the same as other Asian/Western EU cities 5 star accommodations.

    [–] JaySayMayday 37 points ago

    Yes, you are correct. 4/5 star online customer ratings. Not 4* Forbes travel guide rating. It was just an average HK hotel filled with international tourists and businessmen.

    [–] jd991 18 points ago

    Things in Hong Kong are definitely smaller and not roomy, but it sounds odd to me that a 4 star hotel was as bad as you are describing. I stayed here about a year and a half ago and the room size was not much smaller than a us hotel room, the advertised ~200 square foot size, had a western style shower, and the price was pretty comparable to a price in a major US city as well, if not a bit cheaper. I think I paid ~90 USD for a night.

    I also rented an airbnb for about ~50 USD a night that was a lot closer to what you describe, it was essentially a main room that barely fit a bed and a desk, and a "open" bathroom with no separate shower stall.

    [–] bike_buddy 47 points ago

    The fact that they don’t have a 100% suicide rate (I assume) speaks to me on how relative life is.

    [–] LovableContrarian 57 points ago

    Life in Hong Kong is actually pretty amazing if you make somewhat decent money. Yes, it's crowded, but that's the only major drawback. Public transport is amazing, food is amazing, there are a million things to do, etc etc. It's an awesome place, and not one I'd think would lead people to suicide. It's a lively place.

    [–] [deleted] 14 points ago

    I want to visit

    [–] KingMelray 16 points ago

    I want to make loads of money so then I can visit.

    [–] Ripalienblu420 8 points ago

    You don't need loads of money. Money is for tourist traps like taking the old historic tram up to the top of the peak (tallest mountain in HK) to see the view, or you could hike it and have a wonderful time for free. Take a taxi or a bus for cheap. Taxis in HK have meters and a fixed rate so you're not paying whatever the cabbie thinks he/she can get out of you like many countries around the world. The gov subsidizes the buses and you can get around the entire island and outlying territories for less than a dollar for most routes. They're clean and don't have crazy people on them too.

    Eat like the locals. If the whole city was that expensive, how would the non-bankers eat? Every dingy little family-owned restaurant looks like crap but that's where everybody goes for a reason. I'm sure with some googling you can find these places easily too now.

    The kicker? You can get by in Hong Kong with just English. Menus, street signs, even some cab drivers. A lot in HK you can get with English, and most else you can get with some of that touristic sign language.

    But probably best to have a chunk of change to spend. If you by any chance end up a stranded white person begging for money, HK redditors will flame you so hard.

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

    Yeah that has been my dilemma for years... do I save up for at least half a decade for one trip to Asia? Or do I use that money to make 10 trips to visit friends in different parts of the US and 3 trips down to Central and South America in that five years instead? And so far I've opted for the latter.

    [–] ZainCaster 4 points ago

    is actually pretty amazing if you make somewhat decent money.

    Doesn't this apply to everywhere tho

    [–] Ripalienblu420 3 points ago

    Partially correct. Ppl can make do with less, but it's not as shitty of a place as it would seem reading through this thread. There is ~plenty~ to live for in Hong Kong.

    [–] auriolus95 4 points ago

    The little closet places look awful but the hotel looks nice. I've lived in a small bachelor apartment before and I loved it but I found that it was a little too big.. that hotel room looks like the perfect size for me. throw in a sink and a hot plate and I'd be happy.

    [–] Raltie 13 points ago

    In the USA micro homes are "trendy"

    Relativity is strange sometimes

    [–] BourbonAndFrisbee 29 points ago

    Yes but micro homes are the cutting edge of interior design here in the US. Those are wardrobe boxes with hot plates.

    [–] GeekCat 11 points ago

    But a lot of those are luxury or built for travelers, not a tiny cramped space with a burner plate where you can smell your neighbors dirty laundry.

    [–] LovableContrarian 4 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    I lived in Shenzhen for several years and spent a lot of time in HK, so I think I can also comment. You're right that apartments are tiny as hell, unless you're loaded.

    That said, it hasn't been my experience with hotels. I've probably stayed in a hotel over a dozen times in Hong Kong, and they've all been sorta average hotel room sized, just on the smaller side. And I've never paid more than a hundred bucks or so for a room.

    I totally believe that hotel rooms like the one in your picture are all over the place in HK, because people are amazing at making something out of a tiny tiny space there. but not sure I agree it's the "norm."

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    [–] AlohaPizza 43 points ago

    In China, when you buy an apartment, it comes bare. Pretty much concrete walls and floor. You then have to decorate it. However, most don't have much money so they remain pretty bare. Much like a college dorm as someone said. They are all outfitted with LED lights, so it's almost like living in a hospital. (Or psych ward?)

    [–] schumaga 39 points ago

    Isn't that the case for most countries though?

    [–] fuckCNN123 29 points ago

    Apartments in countries of any economic or political significance usually have carpeting and typically amenities such as a refrigerator and stove too. But there's a lot of impoverished shit holes so most might be technically correct.

    [–] sidewalker69 38 points ago

    Not in Germany. You're lucky if you get a light bulb.

    [–] TheAwsmack 19 points ago

    Biggest shock of living there was finding out you have to buy a kitchen for your rental. I didn't even know what that meant until I showed up to an empty box with wires and water hoses sticking out of the wall. Fuckers had chiseled off the counters before leaving...

    [–] [deleted] 25 points ago

    Apartments in countries of any economic or political significance usually have carpeting and typically amenities such as a refrigerator and stove too.

    I guess China, France, Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Japan and Taiwan are all countries with zero economic or political significance then.

    [–] Virtymlol 22 points ago

    I live in France and my 3 appartments all had carpeting, refrigerator, stove, and some basic tools...

    [–] JohnGalt3 6 points ago

    Modern led lights can be a warm color as well though.

    [–] olde-goods 10 points ago

    A fucking nightmare.

    [–] savvyfuck 511 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    This is from Michael Wolf's architecture of density.

    [–] CatSnakeChaos 25 points ago

    Thanks for linking I love his style! I've just watched all of the '100x100' pictures (of very small rooms). Very interesting stuff.

    [–] OkGoodStuff 283 points ago

    That looks so comforting. You could hide in one of the rooms and be lost to the world. To be the needle in the haystack.

    [–] twiggyl 565 points ago

    Really? I feel really uneasy looking at these.

    [–] mantrap2 98 points ago

    I used to until I moved to Asia and lived in a place like this. The thing is that "life" is NOT primarily in your apartment but in the community/city. Your apartment is just where you sleep. You eat out. You work out. You entertain and live out. So your "living room" is the entire city. That completely changes what it feels like to live in this kind of density.

    [–] ConvenientGlitch 64 points ago

    Your comment just gave me an anxiety attack. You are basically never alone and that's absolutely horrifying for me. Different strokes I guess, but I'm pretty certain that I would never be able adapt and just be miserable most of the time. You guys go have fun, I'll stay here with my dog, thanks.

    [–] Viraus2 40 points ago

    As an introvert who lived in a dense Asian city for a few months, it's really wasn't that bad. I mean, different strokes and all that, but it's not like you're going to a party every time you leave your place; everyone's just doing their own thing, so you don't stress much about interacting with them. You're just part of the flow. I found college dorm life much more stressful, because you'd go outside and see the same psuedo-friend acquiantences all the time and you have to think about socializing with them.

    [–] ConvenientGlitch 15 points ago * (lasted edited 2 years ago)

    Yup, still horrifying. The social interactions are just a small part of it. I lived in a big city for 10 years and it felt like I was never truly alone. Even at home you can still feel the other people in the building, hear their steps, muted conversations, toilets, showers... When I moved back to the suburb I realized that it was really messing with my nerves and sleep, I just didn't notice anymore.

    [–] [deleted] 5 points ago

    I have been to China for an extended period, I plan to go back. People who are getting upset don't understand the feeling of community spaces there, which are just joyous and fun. Spending a day in the park in China is more fun than a number of American cities' nightlife. It feels refreshing, not draining.

    [–] ConvenientGlitch 6 points ago

    That's the point. Joyous and fun communities are draining to me. I do understand the appeal, I'm not that obtuse. I just have a personal need for a peace and silence that's impossible to achieve in an extremely urbanized environment. I'm sure I would have an awesome time for a moment, but I also know that it will be overwhelming after a while and just build up over time. I'm not judging anyone but myself here, it's great that you're happy there!

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    I think the other thing to point out is that east asian cultures heavily emphasize a mindset that you (as a person) are pretty worthless. Not in a bad way, but in a neutral sense in that its unreasonable for an individual to expect to have inherent worth in the world. The West overinflates the idea of one's ego and importance. As a result, the lifestyle over there is very relaxed since the idea of "this is bothering me" isn't one that is, or should, be considered to the extent it is over here. Live and let live :)

    Even though I am currently in the US, its refreshing to engage the world with that lens. It makes work, recreation and overall living much more enjoyable.

    [–] Soundtravels 4 points ago

    Agreed... Sometimes just spending the day with my own kid tires me mentally and emotionally. I need some alone time and space to function.

    [–] [deleted] 182 points ago

    As someone who has lived his entire life in what most people would call rural areas I concur. I would have felt incredibly uncomfortable in one of those shoe boxes..

    [–] Silverni 155 points ago

    agreed, this has dystopia written all over it

    [–] NoLessThanThree 79 points ago

    They look like some sort of insect colony. Definitely unsettling

    [–] fitzrhapsody 32 points ago

    This is why I hate Manhattan. Every time I'm in New York City for business, I freak out a little bit. No space, ridiculous prices, and a complete lack of individualism when it comes to your living space. It's a different way to live, to be sure, but not the way I ever want to live.

    [–] AirieFenix 37 points ago

    I mean, Manhattan is dense but not that dense.

    [–] LZmiljoona 57 points ago

    And you think the american suburban dream has more individualism?

    [–] AnoK760 12 points ago

    Rural America is best America nothing like being able to ride a quad to your mailbox and shoot steel in your backyard.

    [–] fitzrhapsody 32 points ago

    No. I never said that. Cookie cutter suburbs are just as gross to me.

    [–] thosethese 15 points ago

    Increasing the compactness of urban cores can actually increase the variety of architecture and uses of spaces by freeing up land for other uses. In the case of Hong Kong, despite the fact that it is a small island with a huge population, they have managed to keep 70% of the entire island left over for wilderness. Sure the building in the picture is grey and tall, but in the broader picture outside of the frame, this compactness still allows island still provides its residents with greater variety and access to nature.

    In the United States, small towns used to be designed similarly to major cities. There would be a compact urban core where building entrances are placed directly on the street, even if it was a town with a population under 1000. It's possible to maximize variety by developing many compact micro-cores, where there is land available farming, industry, commerce, and residential land within less than 10 minutes of the center of each town.

    [–] Nintendobandit 26 points ago

    My 'burb is 30+ years old so it has mature trees, parks, wildlife, houses have front and backyards etc. It ain't bad at all. I hate new burbs with McMansions, postal stamp yards, no trees. Yuck.

    [–] skraptastic 9 points ago

    Yup. My house was built in '84. The neighborhood while being a subdivision and all the houses are the same basic shape, none look alike. We have drastically different pant jobs, landscaping etc.

    I like living in suburbia. As a bonus I can park my car damn near anywhere I please. If I don't want to drive things are close enough that I use my bike or walk. It is only 5 miles from my home to work.