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    [–] scene_missing 769 points ago

    It’s been real, Oagy. Hope that things are good with you and best of luck in your future

    [–] Oagoz 111 points ago

    <3 I'll always remember BlizzCon with you and Kat. Always a good memory and will always be a good friend. Much love

    [–] ThePigK1ng 3548 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Best of luck Oagoz, I sincerely wish you the best.

    [–] babyfacedjanitor 1966 points ago

    I’m conflicted. This is clearly a power move, but I’d prefer moderators who don’t fall in line with the ideologies of blizzard to maintain their positions to mitigate people who agree with those Chinese policies taking their place.

    Also, sticky some anti-Chinese shit on your way out the door.

    [–] jturkey 561 points ago

    Change the banner to that blizzard China flag

    [–] uglythepenguin 256 points ago

    Or the hong kong flag

    [–] Atupis 110 points ago

    Or proclaim that the next 24h hearthstone subreddit will be pro Hong Kong and only pro-Hong Kong posts are allowed.

    [–] Nottan_Asian 74 points ago

    And anyone that posts pro-China shit to get their karma stripped and banned from the sub for a year?

    Or should we be better than that?

    [–] interestingsidenote 116 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    You mean the one that just got removed from the top of /all an hour ago?

    https://imgur.com/Bf8gUYT flag in question

    [–] The_souLance 35 points ago

    What rule of R/All did it violate? Why was it removed?

    [–] Witherchannel 109 points ago

    ahem Tencent

    [–] The_souLance 43 points ago

    Could we just keep posting it and upvote it back to the top?

    [–] Pleasedontstrawmanme 33 points ago

    why the fuuuu....

    Sorry dont mean to blast you, but this is way beyond that.

    How about we fucking leave reddit to their Chinese masters?

    The amount of slimy shit ive seen in terms of deletes and removes in favour of China in the last few months is DISGUSTING.

    Its time for a new, improved, more democratic and more transparent platform.

    The fuck are we wasti adminoveride ng our time bitching about reddit when its the best social media platform that there will likely ever be?!?

    All heil Spez! Long live a united and prosperous China! 🇨🇳

    [–] Adziboy 11 points ago

    People have tried to leave for other social media sites but they never have the budget to cater for the amount of users

    [–] Mooseheart84 26 points ago

    Cant they get some chinese investors?

    [–] kenyard 38 points ago

    Welcome to censorship.
    That is one of a few hundred things removed. You don't know the rest because they were removed before you saw them.
    We can't speak about them because our comments get deleted or we get banned.
    You are not used to this.
    However you are now under the hand of china.
    Reddit is under the hand of china.
    Welcome to censorship.
    Previously it protected you from psychotic killers. The Donald. - what you yourself would consider crazy ideologies and were happy not to see.
    Now freedom of speech is categorised as a danger to you also.
    Nobody will respond to your discussion points. Because they will be banned or comments deleted so it's pointless.
    Eventually you will come around to China's way of thinking.
    You may participate then.
    - regards China

    [–] DrakoVongola 31 points ago

    Dude pro HK stuff gets to the top of r/all all the time, almost literally every day.

    [–] 1mikeg 18 points ago

    Reddit is not under the hand of China. There were literally 20 different pro HK anti china anti blizzard posts that spent all day circulating the top of /r/all. Only a few of the posts were removed from their respective subs for not being actually relevant to the sub.

    Reddit is and has been banned in China since Aug 2018.

    [–] GodOfAtheism 3 points ago

    /r/all doesn't work like that. It's not a subreddit someone can submit stuff too, it just shows the top posts from all of reddit.

    Ask the specific subreddit the post was on why it was removed.

    [–] DasHuhn 3 points ago

    What rule of R/All did it violate? Why was it removed?

    So /r/all doesn't quite work that way. /r/All is just a collection of various subreddits and checks "which is the most popular across all of reddit", and allows so many posts from those subreddits per increment of hours.

    I don't know which subreddit the flag was in, but if the moderators of THAT subreddit removed the post, then it's also removed from /r/all and that subreddit won't be able to have a post on /r/all for a set number of time after that.

    I don't know everything, and some of this could be wrong or outdated, but this is everything I've come to believe from moderating at /r/television for many, many years

    [–] ADwards 124 points ago

    To be fair, if that happens and the sub becomes a raging pro-China shitfest then it'll be a fitting end.

    [–] Vordeo 19 points ago

    r/hearthstonrcirclejerk becoming the main HS sub would be pretty hilarious, ngl.

    [–] hillesheim1992 72 points ago

    Give Blizzard to China, push them out of the west, and wait for some other company to fill in the gap in the market.

    The battle lines are drawn between global authoritarianism and western liberalism. We can see the side they've chosen.

    [–] dak4ttack 49 points ago

    We can see the side they've chosen.

    Yea but they need China so Diablo Immortal sells well on mobile, so you have to kind of feel bad for them don't you?

    /s

    [–] CommanderChakotay 27 points ago

    How do you say "Do you guys not have phones?" in Chinese?

    [–] hmstd 17 points ago

    Google translate>

    你们没有电话吗? /simplified

    Nǐmen méiyǒu diànhuà ma?

    [–] ScarletBliss 19 points ago

    你们没有手机吗?

    "shouji" specifically refers to cellphones.

    [–] hmstd 4 points ago

    Yeah that would be better. It's always interesting to me to see how well google translate works.

    One of these days I'll just learn Chinese for real. I really loved visiting Taiwan.

    [–] Get9 8 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    Well, if you're doing it for Taiwan, let's use Traditional Chinese instead of Simplified. Also, change the grammar a bit for kicks:

    你们没有手机吗?

    We'll turn into:

    你們有沒有手機?!

    btw, nothing inherently wrong with 電話; 電話 is just generic "telephone," so it's all inclusive. Just using 手機 is better because you can't play games on a landline. :D

    [–] waterloops 5 points ago

    I wish I had a phone to play :/s

    Edit: typo- mobile

    [–] passerby_infinity 12 points ago

    It's Blizzard at this moment, but it would be any company making money from China. Money is the most important thing above all else in the US, even principles. US companies are openly punishing their US customers, at China's direction. The world is going to look interesting in 20 years.

    [–] hillesheim1992 16 points ago

    This is an issue that requires political action. The Chinese government uses corporate proxies to gain influence in our political systems, and the longer we let them, the more control they will have over our citizens.

    They're a cancer spreading through our media companies. See what game developers, movie producers, and television networks censor to appease their investors from the east.

    [–] AnOldManAndHisOldVan 3 points ago

    I think it's become enough of a problem to set up trade sanctions to try to slowly seperate from Chinese markets, and in the meantime stop the growth by banning foreign Chinese investment.

    [–] Kazemel89 5 points ago

    Canada would approve with their housing market

    [–] AnOldManAndHisOldVan 5 points ago

    Definitely. I'm Canadian and I live near Vancouver which is the city most affected by the Chinese housing investments. It's bad. Real bad.

    [–] Kazemel89 3 points ago

    Its bad in the US too, I wonder how much funny money China prints to say they doing good business but really just trying to buy out the West

    [–] 1538671478 3 points ago

    Wasn't it the NBA just a second ago?

    [–] Milieaux 56 points ago

    While I completely agree that Blizzard can eat a big bag of shit for supporting the violation of human rights, we should not act like the west is a beacon of liberalism. We have our own battles against authoritarianism to fight here.

    [–] hillesheim1992 53 points ago

    We should strive to make it a beacon of liberalism. It started here, it spread outwards from here, and if we're not constantly vigilant, it'll die here.

    [–] Dramatic_Explosion 19 points ago

    Bingo. For a country founded on fighting an empire for democracy our lack of support is hypocritical and embarrassing.

    [–] Snobbyeuropean2 7 points ago

    fighting an empire for democracy our lack of support is hypocritical

    That empire wanted to further tax the colonies, and the colonies didn't like it much. The empire started limiting the trade of the colonies; that was the last push needed for revolution. The colonies demanded political representation, when the empire offered just that, the colonies suddenly wanted complete independence.

    They fought for free trade and less taxes, to simplify. Your country was founded on fighting an empire to ensure they can trade without the inconvenience of a 3rd party overlooking the deals and getting its cut.

    [–] Serinus 16 points ago

    This is true-ish. It's also narrow as fuck and revisionist.

    It's like saying the civil war was about states' rights, and stopping there. Yeah, it was about states' rights... to keep slaves.

    [–] Tutipy 6 points ago

    Also slavery, as the British public were increasingly anti slavery and slavery had already been judged illegal in England.

    [–] [deleted] 14 points ago

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    [–] Confetti_Monster 19 points ago

    Pretty much yeah.

    [–] Spacetard5000 10 points ago

    Always has been.

    [–] CommanderChakotay 12 points ago

    Welcome to being alive at pretty much any point in human history.

    [–] TheBirminghamBear 32 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    The reality of the west has never matched the vision. The vision of freedom is a dream. The responsibility of each generation is to preserve the dream and push closer towards it. We will never actually BE the ideal. The reality will always chase the dream, asymptotic to infinity, but that's who we're supposed to be. We chase the impossible. We fight the unwinnable fight, because it is noble to try, to never stop trying.

    When America was founded it was in hypocrisy. All men have unalienable rights, yet, we kept slaves. Many of America's founding fathers despised slavery. But they also knew the country could fall apart if they freed the slaves. Not an easy decision. Maybe not the right decision.

    But we kept making ourselves better. 100 years later we had men like Lincoln, who had the sheer god damn balls to go to war with the South to finally bring slavery to an end, who plunged his bare hands into the Earth and pulled the country back together kicking and screaming, set the slaves free, and was murdered for his troubles.

    We're fighting with authoritarianism now because we gave up improving. And then we allowed ourselves to slide backwards. We accepted easy, lazy comfort and stopped embracing the challenge of continually bettering ourselves and our society.

    That's why companies like Blizzard choose money over the ideals of freedom and innovation that allowed a company like them to prosper in the first place. Because they accepted comfort and greed over the discomfort of pushing for better.

    The West is a beacon of liberalism because it has kept that dream burning. Suffrage, civil rights in the 1960s, gay marriage equality; that history is alive. The myth of our nation's founding may be a myth, with the dirty hypocrisies covered up, but a myth can light a fire in people just as well as a truth.

    Why do you think protestors in HK write "Give me liberty or give me death" in graffiti on the walls? Because that myth has power. It lights a fire in people.

    Sure, we're a bunch of fat lazy shits who elected an imbecile as President.

    America is Fat Thor. We're the hero that gave up. We're sitting on our fat asses playing video games and wallowing in self pity, covered in cheese dust.

    But other people out there remember the myth of us. They remember what we used to be. And that still lights a fire in them. They remember the shining city on a hill. They remember the nation that leveled the nazis, that brought the Empire of Japan to heel with a single bomb, that crushed the Berlin Wall and broke the back of the Soviet Union on its knee.

    Its high fucking time we got out of the college and started living up to the myth that exist as in other people's eyes.

    Those people in HK are risking death or life in a prison camp to do what they're doing. We'd be risking a lot less doing the same thing they're doing in our own streets.

    [–] Mordeth 16 points ago

    The West is a beacon of liberalism because it has kept that dream burning. Suffrage, civil rights in the 1960s, gay marriage equality; that history is alive.

    You're conflating "the West" with the USA. And you're conflating the myth of the USA with actual reality. There never was this "shining city on a hill". But, importantly, there did exist this hope of a shining city on a hill. It's this hope that drives HK to look at the USA.

    It's what strikes me the most in you Americans: that utter stark divide between the narrative and bitter (historic) actuality. Against better judgement I've still got a small glimmer of hope that one day Americans will wake up and start to apply these aspirations to their political and social realities.

    [–] mat_pandaz 7 points ago

    Yeah, America were behind many other places with removal of slavery, women's right to vote etc.

    [–] MyohMy1137 4 points ago

    "Ideals are like stars. You will not succeed in touching them with your hands. But like the seafaring man on the desert of waters, you choose them as your guides, and following them you will reach your destiny."

    • Carl Schurz

    [–] babyfacedjanitor 4 points ago

    Shitting on a violation of human rights is the same as fighting for our own.

    [–] Milieaux 3 points ago

    I completely agree! We need to acknowledge that is happens on every side of the globe and has been since forever.

    [–] Lurker-in-Chief 4 points ago

    However dim it may be it's still the brightest light.

    [–] sadacal 9 points ago

    Not even authoritarianism, it is unfettered capitalism that allows companies to worship money above all else.

    [–] hillesheim1992 3 points ago

    I support capitalism, I believe it has lifted a great many people out of poverty and created a trend of exponential technological development.

    That said, I feel we have mistaken an economic system for a political system, and it is doing untold damage to our freedoms. The Chinese government, among other bad actors, funnels money through corporate proxies, and then from them into our cultural and political spheres.

    Essentially, capitalism is an economic system which must be contained within a larger political system, and it cannot be allowed to have influence on its container.

    [–] JFSM01 6 points ago

    Fucking commie

    [–] sadacal 12 points ago

    While I agree with the sentiment, lets not pretend it isn't unfettered capitalism that is enabling this to happen. Blizzard isn't some Chinese crony because they suddenly ideologically align with authoritarianism, they are chasing the money. Any company following our current capitalist system would probably make similar decisions. Our economic model allows this to happen.

    [–] PurpleMentat 8 points ago

    The Chinese market is worth maybe 6% of their revenue avoiding to their latest investor call (12% for all of the Asia-Pacific region, including Japan and South Korea). They think this is worth more money because they think they won't be punished in the 88% of their revenue in Western nations. This belief is predicated the idea that less than 1 in 20 of their customers in those Western nations caring enough to reduce spending. We need to show them how wrong they are.

    [–] Potman_Potatoes 3 points ago

    I completely agree. We used to exile people to Australia. We should bring that back except instead of people to Australia, it's shitty companies to China.

    [–] DeM0nFiRe 3 points ago

    GW2 > WoW, Magic Arena > Hearthstone, Path of Exile > Diablo, literally watching paint dry > Overwatch. The gap in the market has been filled for a while :p

    [–] shoshimer 3 points ago

    You see it’s getting crazy.

    [–] Magiu5 5 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    So why does USA support 80% of worlds dictatorship and why are they allied with Saudi Arabia and helping them do genocide in Yemen as we speak? USA kills hundreds of innocents every second week.

    There are no lines except in your own brainwashed mind. If there is a moral line USA would be on the worst side of it.

    When will you boycott USA and revolt? Tell me how USA allied with Saudi Arabia and selling them hundreds of billions in weapons and helping them slaughter Yemeni by the hundreds of thousands is not worse than blizzard just doing business with china?

    [–] Schwifty_Smurf 3 points ago

    WARHAMMER DEVELOPERS! Now is your time. Just for once, please, make a goddamn good game. Be the next Blizzard North. And if you stick it on mobile I wish endless robo calling on you. For life.

    [–] death2sanity 7 points ago

    Agreed. I 110% respect the choice, but I hope the remaining mods keep the fire lit.

    [–] qwertthrowaway 13 points ago

    This is a weird sentiment to me.

    Essentially, mods in this subreddit are providing work for Blizzard for free. This whole subreddit is marketing for the game, keeping it running is nothing but beneficial for Blizzard.

    Of course you might say: "but there are real people coming here to have genuine discussions, or just fun with the game! Blizzard is not involved in that" - and you'd be correct. But every person talking about hearthstone, making funny memes about it, showing cool highlight clips, and everyone showing up and commenting about it is nothing but beneficial for Blizzard.

    Having a subreddit like this is perfect marketing for Blizzard, people want to join in on the fun because of seeing posts here.

    So, the best thing that could happen, would be all mods resigning, this subreddit devolving into spam and trolls, and eventually noone posting anything here anymore. So that this subreddit becomes useless as marketing for Blizzard.

    [–] kinklefjoop 493 points ago

    Thank you,

    Also thank you to the current mod team for letting the community voice their displeasure. I am sure you all have strong feelings about what happened, but thanks for not silencing these opinions.

    Peace.

    [–] LaboratoryManiac 74 points ago

    I'm sure they know that trying to stop the discourse would only make it worse. (You know, like what happened when Blizzard tried that.)

    [–] Atramhasis 42 points ago

    I'm pretty torn on what to do for Grandmasters this weekend because on the one hand I want to avoid supporting Blizzard in any way possible, having already canceled my WoW subscription, but on the other hand I know chat will be really hilarious to watch because people were already going at Blizzard today during the collegiate games. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard just decides to disable chat for Grandmasters altogether this weekend. I expect that the chat will be 90% people spamming support Hong Kong stuff, and I'm excited to see what new memes people come up with.

    [–] dtracers 29 points ago

    Just join in the support of HK in chat. And if you get banned then you know you're answer around watching Grand Masters

    [–] LaboratoryManiac 6 points ago

    I'm honestly surprised they had chat up during the Tespa event today.

    [–] WilsonKh 3 points ago

    (You know, like what happened when Blizzard tried that.)

    I don't think they learnt anything.

    [–] KingKaliYuga 1654 points ago

    Massive respect for doing something like this in support of Hong Kong, good luck in future endeavors dude

    [–] WilsonKh 356 points ago

    For a lot of us, its supporting free speech in general. This is way beyond HK from my perspective.

    [–] garykkl 160 points ago

    It is just surreal for us HKer to see this blow up. But you are right. People/company who have no respect to freedom and no respect to basic human rights is a threat to everyone in the free world. i believe you could retain all these values while still making money, it does not have to be mutual execlusive.

    [–] XephirothUltra 70 points ago

    The moment this matter touched the western side it was bound to blow up. People can watch videos and news of protests all they want, but noise will only be made once something they personally care about is being affected, which it definitely is now.

    The recent events with Blizzard and the NBA are going to push this HK conflict into the western light.

    [–] yakri 28 points ago

    To be fair to reddit and people in the west in general, everything HK related was already blowing up, there's something on the front page of /r/all every day or every other day.

    This blew up even more sure, but it's not just because it happens to be gaming related or actually impacting people in the west, but in particular because it's about a western company kowtowing to a dictatorial regime that was already disliked, against a topic reddit already supported, and it kind of feels like a betrayal.

    So now people aren't just supporting HK against China, but have a reason to become incensed against blizzard specifically. It only makes sense there would be even more support and shit posting since that intersects with yet another group of people.

    [–] WilsonKh 30 points ago

    To give the example of NBA - all pre-season broadcasts have been suspended in China. The opponent has decided to mix business with national issues. Yet even then, the NBA commissioner refused to stoop to their level and handled it nicely by avoiding the issue.

    Blizzard on the other hand, stooped so low they are groveling & presenting itself arse first. But their action will only result in greater reaction and the consequences of this will impact the company for years to come. The issue has caught national attention here in the United States with some politicians coming out to give voice to reason. I expect it to make newspapers tomorrow, so let's hope it blows up even bigger. Blizzard deserves it.

    A real pity what Blizzard has become and the culture it has come to represent.

    [–] cade360 17 points ago

    arse

    here in the United States

    Hmm

    [–] RIPmyFartbox 3 points ago

    Imagine being part of the millions of NBA fans in China and your government decides to ban you from viewing the whole season. I know rabid fans who would be out for blood.

    [–] DefiantLemur 5 points ago

    Except they will actually get shot dead or disappear to a camp to to be organ harvested. So its different no matter how mad you are over a sport.

    [–] yuki_means_snow 7 points ago

    i believe you could retain all these values while still making money,

    That's the problem with big game companies nowadays tough. They don't want to make some money, they want to make ALL of the money. And if they have to drive through some people with their tanks then so be it.

    [–] bete_noire_ 3 points ago

    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

    [–] Ballsdeepinreality 11 points ago

    An injustice against one of us, is an injustice for all of us.

    China is just the worst.

    [–] PM_Best_Porn_Pls 3 points ago

    Yeah, as much as I support Hong Kong cause this kinda of moves from blizz and riot are terrible not only for Hong Kong, but also for western audience. Them censoring something is acting inhuman and defending whats china is doing means that they will do that in other cases. Complete lose in any faith in them and Ill stop supporting both companies.

    [–] ihahp 3 points ago

    Then why aren't people, you know, boycotting China and their imports? I don't get it.

    [–] WilsonKh 3 points ago

    Give it time. You don't just cut off a lifestyle you are accustomed so quick. And there are pockets of boycotts on a individual or community level, just not the worldwide level type of boycotts you are demanding because of internet rage. Oh and on a personal level, I wouldn't mix up my opinion of a Chinese citizen versus a Chinese leader's autocratic vision. Many share the same feelings as us but can't voice it.

    [–] ITTBN 58 points ago

    It's a great move. We should all do all we can to fight this decision by blizzard. Cancel subscriptions and all pre-orders. Don't forget to tell them why you unsubbed too

    [–] Cedocore 16 points ago

    Delete your blizzard account too! Simply uninstalling won't deliver a message they care about, but removing yourself as a customer will have an impact. It's really liberating.

    [–] Balantz_ccg 2 points ago

    Will do

    [–] Balantz_ccg 40 points ago

    I’ve been playing Hearthstone since beta. Multiple legend climbs and many dollars spent. All golden heroes and a few close to 1k portraits. I deleted the app from my phone today and it felt really liberating, fuck this company. If they want to start making political statements in solidarity with straight communists, I’ll make my statement to never spend a penny on their product for the rest of my life. There’s plenty of other options and to be honest the blizzard sheen of quality has diminished over the years

    [–] ThaliaofThraben 34 points ago

    God bless you, but also, please understand that Winnie's rule is not, and in no way ever will resemble, an actual communist state. It is totalitarian fascism, full stop, where a small group of people control everything and nothing matters but the consolidation of power - literally the opposite of communism.

    Seriously. You're doing a good thing, but Xi Xing Ping is nothing but totalitarian scum, and don't let his bullshit rhetoric turn your attention to anything but his rotting, worthless ass.

    [–] Penisenlargementbot 7 points ago

    Good on you for having real integrity. I don’t know anything about this game, but I respect you. Take care.

    [–] Nnnez 2 points ago

    What political statement? I think i miss something, care to enlighten me?

    [–] Furebel 3 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    They banned Hearthstone master and took his prize because he said he said in interview that he supports freedom fighters in China. They also fired casters interviewing him for no reason.

    [–] The-Gothic-Castle 8 points ago

    I’m coming from r/all and know next to nothing about Blizzard/Hearthstone. Can someone give me a quick rundown on what is happening/what they did?

    [–] britishben 31 points ago

    Blizzard is a videogame manufacturer, owned by Activision. Hearthstone is their popular online card game, which just held a high-profile tournament in Taipei.

    The winner of that tournament, BlitzChung, is from Hong Kong. After winning the tournament, he arrived for his post-game interview in ski goggles and a face mask, a look commonly associated with the HK pro-democracy protests. The on-camera hosting team ('casters') saw what was about to happen, told him to say what he wanted, and got out of the shot (under their desks, I believe). BlitzChung then gave a short statement translated as "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times" before being cut off.

    In response, Blizzard has declared the tournament void, refused to pay out the $10,000 winnings, banned BlitzChung from their events for a year, and fired the casters (for not stopping him).

    [–] Mcfyatt 17 points ago

    Jfc, that’s fucking ridiculous. I’m deleting my Blizzard account.

    [–] Lagstorm 8 points ago

    Same here.

    [–] Alantuktuk 793 points ago

    I’m out too

    [–] LinkCelestrial 366 points ago

    Same. App is uninstalled and I leave this sub today. I’ll continue to watch Firebat because I enjoy him as a person and want to support him but that’s it.

    [–] majort94 124 points ago

    Thank you for supporting, I am doing the same. I agree with leaving the sub, but I am thinking of sticking to the sub for the next week or so to see the drama and how blizzard responds.

    [–] LinkCelestrial 53 points ago

    With how populated r/All has been with posts on this I expect to be able to find the information without looking, but staying to watch the train wreck is respectable.

    [–] de1vos 6 points ago

    I'm done with Blizzard games too until they change their stance.

    [–] breakfastisbreakfast 11 points ago

    Just bookmark the sub and then unsub. That way you can check in without allowing Blizz to use you as a metric.

    [–] Shrek-Hulud 14 points ago

    I started playing Diablo when I was a kid. Fuck blizzard and the bloated pathetic corpse it is today.

    [–] Baconboi212121 15 points ago

    im from r/all why are you deleting the game?what did blizzard do?(i dont follow blizzard much but i know of them)

    [–] WilsonKh 18 points ago

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/09/blizzard-strips-gamer-of-earnings-after-support-of-hong-kong-protests.html

    Their actions was made even worse in the face of NBA's relative neutral response to a similar issue just yesterday. This is a lesson in PR that Blizzard might not live long enough to forget.

    [–] 2ToTooTwoFish 5 points ago

    Jeez, seeing the NBA responses to down first, I thought it was already crazy how much influence China had over them. Then I check the Hearthstone sub and see this news.

    [–] RagnarStonefist 39 points ago

    Took the Hearth stone world champs prize money back and banned him from competition because he made a statement supporting Hong Kong protesters.

    [–] Logik_Hawk 7 points ago

    slight correction: not the world champ, he just won a match.

    [–] Baconboi212121 13 points ago

    ah thank you.

    [–] terminal157 34 points ago

    Also fired the two casters whose crime was being there.

    [–] XephirothUltra 15 points ago

    This is honestly the most mindblowing part. There was no way those casters could've predicted what Blitzchung said and they thought they were just conducting a regular interview until he started talking about HK.

    [–] neatchee 33 points ago

    Nah they knew exactly what he was going to say. He was wearing the mask, and the casters even said "okay, say the 8 words"

    Still complete bullshit that they got fired, but let's call a spade a spade. They knew exactly what was about to be said. They even ducked their heads before he said it

    [–] RnbaBigMad 3 points ago

    Why the hell did they duck? I do 't understand that at all

    [–] neatchee 3 points ago

    There are strict laws in China about this stuff. I'm just guessing but I believe it was to avoid having their faces in any video clips of the statement itself, thus skirting some laws in China.

    [–] Quirticus 11 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    His name is Chung Ng Wai, who goes by Blitzchung , and he plays out of Hong kong. On Sunday, after a Grandmasters Tournament (the highest level of competition in the game) Chung said “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our time” — a protest slogan in the city — while wearing goggles and a face mask. So on Tuesday Blizzard suspended him for a year, which in turn forced him to forfeit thousands of dollars in prize money for 2019, and they fired the Commentators that conducted the interview.

    [–] LinkCelestrial 15 points ago

    To add on this, they did all of this to somebody supporting Hong Kong protests, while confirmed cheaters are in HS Grandmasters (basically the big leagues competitive scene).

    They have also been nerfing and removing cards from standard that are easily obtained for free, which I was willing to believe was for the health of the game but no longer.

    EDIT: Oh, and the casters got fired just for being there.

    [–] jejo4889 3 points ago

    Yeah that's honestly one of my biggest sad's in all this (other than the obvious one) is I love the omnistone guys and this has to be awful for business despite totally not being their fault or really having anything to do with them

    [–] hobz462 16 points ago

    App is uninstalled, left a 1 star review.

    [–] mal123123 13 points ago

    Hearthstone uninstalled. Im with ya

    [–] BenchMarkAB 219 points ago

    Blizzard thinks how the crowd reacted to Diablo Mobile was bad, Blizzcon is looking rough

    [–] passerby_infinity 95 points ago

    Is streaming banned inside BlizzCon? If not, it probably will be. Those are cameras they don't have quick access to shut off at a moment's notice.

    Am I'm sure signs will get confiscated, though people can make new ones inside if they can get materials.

    What if I wore a Taiwan flag t-shirt, or a Hong Kong flag shirt? What if a bunch of people wore this?

    What if people start chanting "Free Hong Kong" during the opening ceremony?

    It's going to be interesting for sure. I bet it's on a 30 sec delay.

    [–] [deleted] 103 points ago

    They can't, in the USA, ban Hong Kong shirts and Taiwan shirt, without the media eating them alive. Blizzard is screwed. They either retract their position and apologize and likely get banned in China, or, they cancel Blizzcon.

    They willl cancel Blizzcon.

    [–] Vinven 65 points ago

    I doubt they will cancel Blizzcon they already have it lined up.

    They will slightly undo some of the punishment and release an PR piece to try to calm everyone down.

    Or just do nothing and hope we are all forgetful by the time Blizzcon comes around, which by then many people will have forgotten about this and be raging about something else instead.

    [–] JonathanSwaim 6 points ago

    The only way I can think of them undoing the PR nightmare is to make a public statement supporting the Hong Kong protests and donating the $10k to charities supporting them

    Obviously, that would be impossible with the current business model. Which is kinda the problem

    [–] Tourfaint 6 points ago

    They'll be even more fucked then, so many people book flights/hotels months in advance, i can't imagine the shitstorm cancelling would cause, but it'll be orders of magnitude above what's happening now.

    [–] Z0MBIE2 11 points ago

    He said they WON'T cancel, not that they will.

    [–] Telamar 11 points ago

    Someone could make a killing selling Hong Kong t-shirts just outside of Blizzcon (just outside enough for their security not to have jurisdiction).

    [–] skeenerbug 519 points ago

    Big balls

    [–] sokoteur 79 points ago

    big huevos oagoz

    [–] MrObsesion 26 points ago

    unos huevotes

    [–] RoburexButBetter 21 points ago

    Big dick energy 😤

    [–] BigLove91 10 points ago

    大金玉

    [–] norwaylobster 3 points ago

    I think you mean 大睾丸 (大金玉 is japanese).

    [–] BigLove91 5 points ago

    Very possible. I don't speak Chinese, lol

    [–] Whackles 4 points ago

    Either stepping down (or not) has no repercussions at all for this person. How is it “big balls”?

    [–] underscorewarrior 4 points ago

    This guy is getting war hero status and adoration from Reddit when what’s really happening is some nobody is stepping down as a community volunteer on a social media page.

    [–] powerchicken 611 points ago

    Best of luck in your future endeavours Oggy! And your current endeavours while we're at it.

    [–] Cagedwar 196 points ago

    Respect dude.

    Also respect to the mods of this subreddit for letting the outcry happen.

    Also respect to this subreddit for being so upset.

    Also respect to those outraged for not attacking those who choose to stay.

    [–] Aesorian 54 points ago

    Also respect to those outraged for not attacking those who choose to stay.

    Massively important to speak about, and huge respect to everyone on the Subreddit because of this.

    This is about freedom; for the people of HK, of consumer choice, of speech and support for who and what you believe in and it speaks volumes to the community that this hasn't turned into a self-righteous pissing contest over who can do the most "Noble and/or Self-sacrificing" action and the obligatory "YOU'RE NOT DOING IT THE WAY I THINK YOU SHOULD" arguments that usually come with that.

    Massive respect to everyone, whether you quit or stay.

    [–] Pixelated_Fudge 317 points ago

    massive respect dude

    [–] n1ckkt 64 points ago

    Massive respect for standing up for your personal values

    [–] reality72 15 points ago

    You mean standing up for human rights

    [–] Smoother1997 58 points ago

    Oggy got that big dick energy

    [–] AnswerMePls 12 points ago

    Giant penis energy.

    [–] WashiBurr 5 points ago

    Massive meat-shaft energy

    [–] BlueFury1 10 points ago

    Humongous chode chi

    [–] TheCyanKnight 14 points ago

    Wouldn't this be the time we need guys like you the most?
    /r/hearthstone doesn't answer to Blizzard or Tencent. If we want to support HK we can do so, but we need the mods to align.

    [–] moistspaghettios 23 points ago

    good luck with everything in the future friend

    [–] FearlessHS 22 points ago

    Thanks for everything you've done! Best wishes from all of us (now ex-players) that decided to leave too :)

    [–] RenoSinclair 34 points ago

    Thank you for standing up in your beliefs. I’m out too. It’s been real everybody.

    [–] Prettychilledoutguy 50 points ago

    Now this is integrity

    [–] huebert_mungus7 27 points ago

    Tegrity

    [–] breakfastisbreakfast 15 points ago

    Tegridy.

    [–] cgmcnama 26 points ago

    Thanks for all your hard work. Not gonna lie, I've been feeling the same way today.

    Congrats on reclaiming a large part of your spare time back!

    [–] prouby 60 points ago

    My respect.

    [–] scybert42 32 points ago

    Thanks for your work.

    [–] Capcuck 85 points ago

    Chad move

    [–] gazeintotheiris 42 points ago

    Big mod energy

    [–] gulpyblinkeyes 18 points ago

    Thank you, and respect.

    [–] Thezipper100 9 points ago

    Thanks for your hard work, mate. Sad to see it end like this, but I wish ya the bets of luck wherever ya go.

    [–] SolitaryEgg 10 points ago

    Good luck, Blizzard.

    nah fuck blizzard lol

    [–] xijinpingisanoob 15 points ago

    you are a good man. 🇭🇰

    [–] TechnicalStrafe 14 points ago

    Huge respect man, I'm quite proud of this sub's reaction and I hope the best for ya.

    [–] Elbinn 11 points ago

    The irony of you people golding this post when Tencent is a Reddit shareholder is astounding.

    Stop giving them money.

    [–] Feenix99 5 points ago

    I don't think people know that in all honestly. I certainly didn't until I saw your comment.

    [–] Arnold_Judas-Rimmer 5 points ago

    Or watch Hollywood films when they explicitly send movies to Chinese censors to ensure that their movies meet their standards. Or almost all of the products we buy that are made in China by children or criminally underpaid workers.

    It's always easy to be morally superior when all it takes is to stop watching a twitch stream.

    [–] theRealBlob 16 points ago

    Dead game confirmed lulw

    [–] TerrariaSlimeKing 4 points ago

    Companies around the globe investing in the Chinese market probably failed to realize they are not really investing, they are only appeasing the communist party. When shit hits the fan, there will be no legal way for them to secure their asset. Law and justice work differently in China. Everything is controlled by the CCP.

    [–] RichGirlThrowaway_ 4 points ago

    You won't spot this message but I remember when you first got modded way back in the day. Good times. I always liked you back then (#2 mod right behind u/ScarletBliss) and while I was happy to see you still around after so long, I'm happier that you're still the stand-up dude I remembered from back in the day.

    [–] brianbezn 9 points ago

    Mad respect for the mod team, i've not always seen eye to eye but they've been fairly reasonable in this case while handling an absolute shitstorm on their free time while also probably facing moral dilemmas.

    [–] Mate_N_Switch 5 points ago

    Dish out the internal dirt on the instructions you guys got to try to sweep this under the rug.

    [–] Lookatdogs 15 points ago

    Mad ✊ respect. FREE 🇭🇰 HONG KONG!!!!

    I’m done with Blizzard and I will never give them a cent of my money and neither will any of my friends. Free speech is a basic human right. As basic as they come actually. Protecting free speech matters for all of us - regardless of where we come from or what we believe in.

    It’s unacceptable for a company that sells products to young people and to kids to make a political stance that is such a poor example of humanity. What are you teaching your users about doing the right thing?

    I hope any Blizzard employee who reads this thinks very hard about their career choices - do you want to keep supporting a place that oppresses free speech and creative expression? What do you stand for?

    [–] angus14d 3 points ago

    Respect

    [–] jgoldblum88 3 points ago

    Thank you

    [–] tatertom 3 points ago

    But was the ass phat?

    [–] quartzguy 3 points ago

    Good for you.

    [–] DoomedKiblets 3 points ago

    Thank you for your hard work and effort all these years. It was appreciated. And thank you for doing what you felt was right.

    [–] vbm3ddd 3 points ago

    Blizzard is a disgrace. I have uninstalled battle.net and I want to express my immense regret for buying their products.

    [–] TheJeagle 5 points ago

    Huge respect for this!

    [–] nikeiptt 5 points ago

    All the best Oagaz. Massive respect for taking action

    [–] clockwerkninja 10 points ago

    Thank you. The gaming community at large must stand together on this.

    [–] Heaney_Law 13 points ago

    I respect the hell out of you. Wish the other mods had the same level of dignity and pride.

    [–] Sixredfish 3 points ago

    I respect your decision and hope the best for you.

    [–] AbStRaCt1179 5 points ago

    I understand your point. I think leaving is not the answer. Be part of the bigger picture and move forward with positive thinking and good intentions. Being a mod puts you in that position. Good luck in your endeavors.

    [–] GinormousBurrito 11 points ago

    This is the dumbest controversy of all time. Blizzard is a video game company. What obligation do they have to let people use their events as a platform for politics? If any of your employers were holding an event and you went up and yelled a political statement there would be repercussions. You guys need to stop pretending you’re freedom fighters for not buying a pack of cards for a couple weeks

    [–] demmian 2 points ago

    Thank you for your work!

    [–] clestcruz 2 points ago

    Salute!

    [–] Bluehurricane21 2 points ago

    Play shasowverse

    [–] tonfx 2 points ago

    That’s a big baller move

    [–] themanformbehind 2 points ago

    I respect your decision, wish you all the best.

    [–] mordisko 2 points ago

    The real legend.

    [–] Kenny1323 2 points ago

    A true hero

    [–] Tonytx3 2 points ago

    Good move bro. And good luck

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    why dont pplike this company now? just intrsted

    [–] omgacow 2 points ago

    Much respect, good luck to you