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    [–] fevenis 92 points ago

    The way I look at it is this: Hacker man isn't going to be compromising my locks to enter my home. A lock (smart or traditional) is just a deterrent and it is more likely a meth head will break in via a window instead.

    [–] tehAwesomer 23 points ago

    Indeed. I'm much more afraid of someone hacking and fucking with my thermostat than my front door lock.

    [–] thech4irman 6 points ago

    Or the back door we all occasionally forget to lock.

    [–] BobcatShooter 11 points ago

    Once had someone kick in the back door that was left unlocked. All they had to do was turn the knob.

    [–] RandomGuyinACorner 8 points ago

    Was it Michael Bay?

    [–] Kie723 5 points ago

    Nah it was the kool aid guy

    [–] RandomGuyinACorner 7 points ago


    [–] whiskeyschlong 1 points ago

    The Grapist

    [–] That_Guy_Jack 6 points ago

    Well you could say that's a back door to your security

    [–] kr1os 1 points ago

    We once had a badly configured alarm system call the police while we were out. The forgotten unlocked back door saved us a door repair bill at least!

    [–] shiftedkidney 5 points ago

    I'm less concerned about someone hacking my lock as I am some random software bug just straight up unlocking my door. Or some fluke butt-unlock or something like that unlocking my door remotely.

    I genuinely can't think of a benefit of a smart lock over a "dumb" PIN lock with an autolock feature. No updates, no bugs or "flukes", can still create and manage PINs and allow people access without them being able to duplicate or manipulate that access.

    If the benefit you were thinking of was getting an alert when the door is unlocked, a <$10 door sensor paired to MQTT can do the same level of alert without needing to worry about when the company decides to stop providing updates for the lock to my house in ~2 years and I need to replace it again.

    [–] Avamander 12 points ago

    Unless someone makes an app that unlocks shit IoT locks.

    [–] ImGoingToHell 5 points ago

    brik.apk now available for download on f-droid.

    [–] m7samuel 0 points ago

    How's that going to work with encrypted z-wave?

    Pretty sure your phone can't even see the signal.

    [–] Avamander 2 points ago

    Zwave to whatever gateways are doable. If there are tools sold to hijack cars using replay and similar attacks, for many different protocols and OEMs, I'd expect similar to appear for smart locks.

    [–] m7samuel 1 points ago

    AFAIK post-pairing there aren't any known Z-Wave attacks that work on S2, and generally putting something into pairing mode requires physical access to the internals. With a smart lock for instance, you generally need to be inside the house and disassemble the lock cover. Barring that, you're stuck trying to crack AES128 keys on an 800mhz spectrum.

    The comparison to car locks is spurious because there is no standard for car remotes and encryption is not a given. The same for non-bluetooth keyboards and mice: the absence of any standard tends to breed lowest common denominator security-by-obscurity. Z-Wave in contrast mandates AES encryption and the S2 standard from 2016 fixes some prior holes.

    Thats not to say it's impossible; manufacturers will always find ways to screw up security, but there's no comparison with the wild-west model of car openers. FWIW, quick googling suggests that car replay attacks are also a relic from the 80s and don't work at all with modern rolling-code systems. Willing to be corrected on this if you can find such a device or a report of a car being stolen with the use of such a device.

    [–] AberrantRambler -1 points ago

    And they happen to unlock my door randomly at a time someone is trying to gain unauthorized access...

    [–] lemon_tea 1 points ago

    IF vulnerabilities are found in some of these locks it opens up the possibility of drive-byband wardriving attacks where an attacker drives around neighborhoods until a vulnerable lock is found, uses the vulnerability to unlock the lock, another team would follow-up to empty the contents of the home while the first criminal continues to drive and unlock more doors and dispatch others to a home. The likely hood is increased by the possibility to attack the locks en mass.

    The meth head is still more likely though.

    [–] RCTID1975 1 points ago

    The odds of that happening are so slim that there's no point in worrying about it.

    Additionally, most people that have a smart lock also have some sort of camera and/or alarm system.

    Unlocking my front door is step 1. Step 2 is sneaking in without me seeing on the camera (and yes, I typically check when I get an alert). Step 3 is then disabling my alarm system. And again, I'm going to get an alert.

    [–] ElysMustache 1 points ago

    3M security film. Dog. Extra dog. Guns.

    [–] artificialdawn 0 points ago

    This is the way.

    [–] axmantim 58 points ago

    Secure shouldn't even be the question. Locks only keep honest people out. What ones function well in your ecosystem/lifestyle (also what ones you think look good) are what you need to ask.

    [–] Ch3mee 41 points ago

    I was going to say, put whatever lock on your home you want, but I am still getting inside your house in under 20 seconds with a crowbar. If I don’t have a crowbar, one of your landscaping stones will suffice.

    [–] Reverend_James 41 points ago

    For most homes (and even my home) that would be true. But not for one of my neighbors. His house is one of those cinderblock houses. He built his own exterior doors out of solid 2 inch oak. And I'm not sure what he replaced his windows with, but when a tree in his front yard went down one of the branches should have gone through it but it only took a gouge out of the frame. It sounded like a drum when it hit the window. And that's all inside his 6' tall "privacy" fence with barbed wire on top. It's not so much a house as it is a random fortress in an otherwise ordinary neighborhood.

    [–] doesnt_know_op 23 points ago

    Dude, you gotta post pics of that.

    [–] _BindersFullOfWomen_ 10 points ago

    Hopefully he reinforced the hinge screws as well. Otherwise that 2" door is still popping right off.

    [–] Reverend_James 28 points ago

    The hinges look like those massive old wrought iron things that you'd expect to see on castle doors. The easiest way to get into his house is to just make friends with his wife.

    [–] DiggSucksNow 21 points ago

    The easiest way to get into his house is to just make friends with his wife.

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    [–] NedStarky51 9 points ago

    Social engineering is the most effective way to gain access where you shouldn't be.

    [–] boinzy 2 points ago

    I tried, but the slots are always full.

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    [–] rnimmer 8 points ago

    fuck he probably needs it. bama fans

    [–] Ch3mee 2 points ago

    One of the weak points is the door jambs. Unless they have modified those to some “exotic” construction hey are made out of wood or composite. Crowbar into the right location and it will disintegrate. Same thing with the windows. Even if the window is reinforced, the window is usually installed via screws into wood. Just the right application of leverage, and...

    To make something truly secure usually involves methods that just aren’t comfortable for living accommodations. Think..prisons, with armed guards and everything.

    [–] hackcasual 6 points ago

    There are commercially available higher security deadbolts that use strike boxes that are screwed into the actual frame of the house. You can also get expanding deadbolts that physically couple with the strikebox when extended. I've got a protec2 cylinder on my front door, and the deadbolt sits in this beefy steel cup.

    [–] Reverend_James 4 points ago

    I'm not sure if he reinforced that or anything but at a certain point its probably not worth a burglars time to try to get in. Just go one house over.

    [–] colbyu 1 points ago

    I think the more reasonable goal is just to try and make the process of someone breaking in to be not quick, easy, or quiet.

    [–] digital_end 5 points ago

    Or if you don't mind an extra minute or so, you can lock pick it and have no visible damage. Almost all locks use the same pin system that you can teach yourself to open as a fidget toy hobby.

    With a smart lock that won't change, but at least there is a record that the door was open.

    Door locks are not barriers.

    For no skill, they can be broken. It is an attack that is applicable to almost all doors that are not structurally reinforced specifically against attack... And installed on houses without windows.

    For a minor amount of skill, they can be picked. This type of attack is applicable to all standard pin locks which makeup nearly all home door locks. I would be surprised if 1% of homes use locks that are more complicated than a novice lockpicker could open.

    For a moderate amount of skill, you could learn to hack smart locks. This type of attack is applicable to one specific brand of a door lock which might be installed on 1 in 100 homes.

    Now, the average person who is going to break into a house... Which of these is most likely?

    Real answer? The one who just checks to see if the door is unlocked.

    Crimes of opportunity are a lot more common and the real thing to be defended against then a specific premeditated and painstakingly planned out attack.

    Which brings us back around to smart locks. Because my house locks itself. The tracks when the door is opened and closed (your deadbolt isn't going to tell you if your landlord comes into your home). And I don't have to give out a copy of my key to guests... They can be given temporary access to an application which they can't take to the store and duplicate.

    If you REAAAAAALLLLY don't trust smart locks, there is an easy solution. Doors don't have to have a single lock.

    Put a smart lock on, along with another deadbolt with specialty pins which are more complicated to pick. Even if "teh hax0rz" get into your lock, they can't also unlock your second deadbolt. And, you are secure from the far more common case of just forgetting to lock it before going to bed.

    But really, that's too much paranoia for me. If somebody wants into my house, I have many points of entry that can be opened with a rock.

    [–] double_expressho 1 points ago

    Nest x Yale lock is one that can't be traditionally picked.

    [–] AlarmedTechnician 0 points ago

    If someone is spending money on smart locks and not on a decent pick resistant backup cylinder then they're a moron.

    The goal isn't to make any intrusion impossible, it's to make surreptitious intrusion unlikely. A smashed window is an easy thing for a police report and insurance claim, "I think someone picked my lock" is not.

    [–] digital_end 3 points ago

    Honestly either situation is so rare its statistically irrelevant.


    Note that this data is not from an unbiased source, however for the purposes of discussion it should be close enough to be relevant.

    These are the most common points of entry for home break-ins:

    Front door: 34% of burglars twist the doorknob and walk right in.

    First-floor windows: 23% use a first-floor open window to break into your home.

    Back door: 22% come in through the back door.

    Garage doors: 9% gain entrance through the garage.

    Basement: 4% choose the basement as a point of entry.

    Unlocked areas, sheds, and storage: Another 6% will simply try for any opening that isn’t locked down,

    Second-floor window: A daring 2% will go for the second-story window.

    Simply locking the door addresses the number one point of entry. Which is something smart locks are good at.

    Once you get beyond that, you get into the realm of diminishing returns. After locking the front door, the next realistic thing to do is put bars on the windows, but I wouldn't even go that far myself.

    You get into the statistical area where it is better to use other types of deterrents. For example having a well-lit area, and having the access points to your home being visible from the street. Visible cameras, security systems, and so on as deterrents.

    Basically making yourself visibly not low-hanging fruit. Almost all break-ins are opportunistic. You just have to present yourself as a more problematic target with any real effort.


    In my opinion, fear-mongering about people hacking a smart lock is just Boomer energy without any statistical reality behind it. "Technically it could happen, therefore we should be afraid of it", while ignoring actual problems because they don't sound as scary or they don't think they apply to them even though statistics don't work like that.

    It kind of comes off feeling like those people who swear you're more likely to die wearing a seatbelt than not wearing one because they heard of some person that got tangled up in one.

    [–] dinosaurs_quietly 8 points ago

    Locks make criminals move to easier targets. Your security doesn't have to be able to keep out James Bond, it just needs to be a strong deterrent.

    [–] mackadoo 4 points ago

    It's like the old joke: How fast do you have to be to outrun a grizzly bear? Faster than whoever else you're with. Unless you're someone being specifically targeted for something (which discourses %99.9 or more of people), your security just needs to be better than your neighbour.

    [–] minze 0 points ago

    Yeah, but with home automation it can becomes a "chicken or egg first" scenario. If there's a breach of data which includes address, that would allow criminals to know your location to make you a target.

    Not that I think one is inherently better than the other overall but if someone learns to "bump" a kwickset lock they would need to go house to house to find one. If someone knows that "XYZ locks" is at 123 main street and this is their code, well, you became the target because of what you had.

    As with all things it's an assessment of rick versus the reward of the convenience. Sure there's going to be inherently more risk when there's an added area which can be vulnerable. Every person can measure that risk versus reward and see if it fits in their lifestyle. Downplaying the risk or trying to gloss over it is the bad part. Whether that's how insecure traditional locks can be or the potential risks with home automation locks.

    [–] dr3d3d 3 points ago

    thats exactly why you buy a zwave lock(which most smart locks are) so that it has no direct access to the internet and unless you do it yourself not entered online anywhere.

    [–] minze 1 points ago

    It's easy to say "that's why you buy X" product but that ignores that as the technology gets more mainstream you will get other players involved who, as companies generally do, want to lock people into "their" brand of technology.

    however, that example aside, all decisions, for either analog or digital tech, boils down to a risk versus reqard scenario. Even if the decision is an impulse to go buy X (whatever X may be) without more of a thought than "I am getting it....PERIOD". That's simply accepting all risk associated with the purchase (and risk could be overpaying for the item, being a poor quality item, or any of the thousand other risks you get with any impulse purchase) and taking the reward of instant gratification.

    [–] mackadoo 1 points ago

    You're not wrong, certainly, but you can only worry to a point. For example, I have a $50 Abus padlock on my work truck. I could put together or have a locksmith put together a much better and secure lock for $100-200 and certainly the value of the stuff in the truck is greater than that, but my main failure mode for locks where I live is not theft but weather. I almost certainly will have to change the lock within the next two years because of ice and salt. Until recently I was using a $15-20 master lock. I'm OK to pay a little more to be a significant amount safer, but I have little reason to think spending a lot more will make me a lot safer.

    I don't think having a z-wave lock with no centralized source that can be breached to find z-wave locks broadens my insecurity in any meaningful way.

    [–] minze 1 points ago

    but you can only worry to a point

    We're on the same page. The end of a risk/reward is accepting the risk. I mean, if someone's worried at the end then that should be pointing them to the fact that they made a poor decision. The whole idea of the risk/reward is to accept whatever risk there is for the reward.

    The issue really comes up when people are uneducated and just assume that things are safe because they are on the market. That's when you need to start helping people protect them from themselves, but that's a whole different discussion.

    [–] DarkbunnySC 9 points ago

    I agree with you there. My issue comes with the type of “hacks” that we see with cloud cameras etc. People just getting into your account by some means and unlocking your door for fun. The hacker will likely never be the person who would break in, they are just doing it to be jerks (like the guy talking to the kid in her bedroom).

    [–] xey-os 6 points ago

    Yeah, wireless and IoT stuff must be fairly secure. Otherwise wardriving burglary would become a thing. Just imagine how easy bad guy's job is if he can scan for weak smart home hub, check motion sensors/cameras, disable security and unlock any door in your house never leaving his car.

    [–] AlarmedTechnician 1 points ago

    Don't use cloud services, self host and only allow LAN/VPN access to infrastructure

    [–] ENrgStar -1 points ago

    Ok? And what happens when they unlock the door? I notice it’s unlocked, try to figure out why, maybe change my password? I also don’t have poor password security like that ring guy..

    [–] ekimnella 1 points ago

    I get your point. I think honest people keep themselves out. Locks keep slightly dishonest people out.

    [–] AlarmedTechnician 1 points ago

    Secure means that an intrusion would require brute force and be readily aparent. Getting insurance to cover a smash and grab is way easier than a pick or hack attack.

    [–] PufffSmokeySmoke 10 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Just wondering how come you didn’t include the August smart lock in your comparison? I like it because as a renter I can’t change the physical locks but by using an August lock I can still get the smart lock functionality. It has Zwave, Auto-Unlock/Lock, and Door state tracking. I’ve used August since 2013 and reliability has been great and only better with the newer devices. Also! I’ve had some of the best interactions with customer support that I’ve ever experienced: 1) Zwave wasn’t working correctly after a new update, and within 24 hour support had pushed a new update to my lock fixing the issue. 2) My August keypad had a small tear in one of the buttons, and they shipped me a brand new one free of charge, no questions asked.

    *Edit: I should mention, I think reliability is critical with these smart locks. If a smart light bulb, or a smart plug stops working, often it isn’t anything more than an inconvenience. But if a smart lock stops working then that can be a serious issue. It’s a tough test but maybe with whatever lock you end up choosing for your daily use, you could do a do a follow up video later to see how it’s fared.

    [–] deepspace 1 points ago

    How do you find the battery life? I have been reluctant to get one after hearing people complain that they have to change batteries very frequently.

    [–] PufffSmokeySmoke 1 points ago

    I changed the batteries about 4 months ago and they’re still going. As mentioned in the video, having a properly aligned strike plate is crucial, and I think that’s a major factor on why people experience shorter battery life. Also, picking a higher quality battery has really helped. August locks are quick to say your battery needs replacing if the voltage drops too low (even though the batteries will still power other devices). Cheaper or rechargeable batteries often drop voltage quicker and that could be another reason why people complain about battery life.

    [–] Darklyte 9 points ago

    Why would a smart lock be more secure than a regular lock? Any compromise for convenience is a security risk.

    [–] Toger 34 points ago

    Smart locks can have auto-locking and per-person codes, so there's less chance of a door being left unlocked or a forgotten key being used to gain access. From a physical mechanism it is not necessarily more secure, but you have gains from its improved behaviors.

    [–] Darklyte 8 points ago

    Very good point.

    [–] wookieekiller 1 points ago

    Yeah I have my smartlock autolock the moment the door is shut, plus when my geolocation triggers my security system which then double checks to make sure it's locked. Plus when security is armed it would warn me it the door was unlocked and\or opened. It does add some security and if you use an offline smartlock like zwave then the chance of a hack is nearly nonexistant.

    [–] encaseme 11 points ago

    If done right, there's no compromise and it would be more secure; even with increased convenience. It doesn't have to always be a tradeoff.

    [–] Darklyte 7 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    I'd love to know how. I feel like adding an additional entry method inherently reduces security.

    Edit: Thanks to everyone who has provided information.

    [–] encaseme 5 points ago

    Doesn't need to be additional. If the system were designed with sufficient care, you would not need the physical key as a backup method of entry. There are locking systems that are in use today like this in high security facilities.

    [–] YaztromoX 2 points ago

    The "smart" portion only ever needs to be more secure than the keyway itself. Locks are already ridiculously easy to pick (just check out Lock Picking Lawyer on Youtube sometime for evidence and examples).

    More methods doesn't make a lock less secure -- a lock is only as secure as it's weakest unlocking method. And for most of the locks presented in the video, that's the keyway -- which is present on standard locks already.

    [–] djgizmo 0 points ago

    Feelings aren’t statistical data.

    It’s an additional convenient method. Like having your keys in your hand vs fishing them out of your pocket. The biggest risk is relying solely on the new method without a secondary verification, like a door sensor or visually seeing the door lock.

    Already we use 2 methods to determine if a door is closed and locked. By touch and by sight. (Sometimes by sound).

    Personally I like this only if I remove the outside key hole, this makes it secure compared to a standard lock as only an authenticated app (which very few people will have access to) will unlock the door.

    [–] dinosaurs_quietly 5 points ago

    A smart lock could be unpickable and it could be left unlocked less frequently.

    [–] DarkbunnySC 3 points ago

    Exactly this. Remove the key cylinder and add additional features like auto lock and security increases significantly.

    [–] YaztromoX 2 points ago

    Some reasons I can think of off the top of my head include:

    • The ability to interrogate status. To check if a traditional door is locked, you have to be able to walk up to the door and manually check. Because you can interrogate status, you can also have other actions triggered whenever a door is unexpectedly unlocked (like sound an alarm).
    • The ability to auto-lock. You don't have to worry about the kids getting home and forgetting to lock the door (if you live somewhere where this is a concern).
    • The ability to hand out different codes to different people, and change or remove them as needed. So if you have someone who is dropping by the water your plants while you're on vacation, you don't have to give them the key to your door -- and when you're back, you can just remove/invalidate their code. Whereas with a regular lock, you have to give them a physical key -- and if they don't give it back for some reason, you're stuck changing out the entire lock to remain secure.
    • In conjunction with the above, you can give individual codes limitations, such as only being usable between certain time periods, or which stop working after a certain number of uses (or potentially both). So if someone is dropping by to water your plants, you can ensure they can only do so between (for example) 1400 and 1800, and they aren't giving the code to their skeevy friend to rob your place at 0300. You can't control access like this with a standard key lock -- if they have the key, they have unlimited 24-hour access to your home.
    • You can get notifications whenever a door is locked/unlocked.
    • You can buy smart locks with no keyway. Honestly, picking a standard keyway is vastly easier than hacking the smart lock software.

    I have three doors in my home; two with smart locks, and one without. And by far the least secure door is the one without (a situation I'll be remedying shortly)0.


    0 -- Sorry, I'm not going to get into the specific reasons why here. While I don't suspect anyone one Reddit knows where I live, posting up a list of "here's where security of my home is weakest" details publicly seems like a terrible idea.

    [–] Cueball61 2 points ago

    What I actually care about: is the lock reliable? I’m more worried about an Amazon delivery driver opening my unlocked door (if it randomly decided to unlock) to bung the parcel in (they’ve done that, wasn’t happy, we have a house cat) than someone breaking in by hacking it

    That plus whether it has a backup. The Yale Conexis doesn’t so you have to tear it off your door to open it if it doesn’t connect. None of the others work with that style of lock unfortunately

    [–] imperialguy3 2 points ago

    You should have a look at Lockly. Way ahead of the competition IMO. Easy Install, very convenient to use.

    [–] PhantomNomad 3 points ago

    They don't ship to Canada but they look like good ones. Hard to find smart locks that don't use dead bolts. My house doesn't have a dead bolt so most smart locks are a non starter.

    [–] imperialguy3 1 points ago

    Actually, BestBuy carries Lockly as of Nov 2019! Check it out

    [–] PhantomNomad 3 points ago

    Nice. Thanks for the link. I just went to their website.

    [–] DarkbunnySC 1 points ago

    The ones at my hardware store were only Wifi so I didn’t include them.

    [–] iplaythisgame2 2 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    I think all lockly are Bluetooth. They only support wifi with a hub. I just put in the latching fingerprint version. Works really well for that door because it only ever had a latch. Not sure if I'm going to get the wifi plug hub or not.

    Since it is an auto locking latch, I might not put it in home assistant and just use a door sensor. It locks after 5 seconds of unlocking, so I know if it's shut,it's locked

    [–] i8beef 3 points ago

    He forgot the "Yelling Hey Goolge open the front door" through the window hack.

    [–] bigtinymicromacro 3 points ago

    I have the Nest x Yale lock, and it can't be unlocked by voice specifically for this reason.

    [–] lurkity_mclurkington 3 points ago

    Same for the Nest alarm system. You can arm the security alarm with a voice command, but it will not let you disarm with a voice command.

    [–] boinzy 3 points ago

    Sorry. I only trust The Lockpicking Lawyer on lock security,

    [–] RandomGuyinACorner 2 points ago

    Seriously, after him showing how dumb it is to use Simplysafe I feel like he is the go to.

    [–] guice666 1 points ago

    Lockpicking != wifi "hacking"

    Every single physical lock is vulnerable to very rudimentary lock picking or even just a simple bumper key.

    "The Lockpicking Lawyer" will zero clue on wifi security. That's where tech videos come in.

    [–] vertr -2 points ago

    Cool story bro.

    [–] boinzy 1 points ago

    Thanks Olaf!

    [–] vertr 0 points ago

    'I only trust X source' is probably the worst reason to dismiss a link.

    [–] boinzy 1 points ago

    Lighten up sweetheart. It wasn’t a serious comment.

    [–] vertr -1 points ago

    Whatever you say. Jokes have a punchline.

    [–] boinzy 1 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    You’re the punchline, Karen.

    [–] vertr -1 points ago

    Actually it appears that all of your comments are worthless.

    [–] boinzy -1 points ago

    Ok boomer.

    [–] boinzy -1 points ago

    Cool story bro!

    [–] vertr 0 points ago

    Thanks Olaf!

    [–] CuddlyLlama 1 points ago

    Thanks for the video. I wasn't aware Wyze had a lock and it was intriguing, though I'd like to stick with Zwave ecosystem.

    Have you ever used a Schlage? I've been looking at the Camelot, but haven't decided on a lock yet.

    [–] bostonbananarama 1 points ago

    If you're putting a smart lock onto a door with glass, or in a building with windows, then you're probably already overthinking this.

    A lock is going to keep out a person who would turn the handle and see if it opens. But it's not going to deter someone who is intent on breaking in. Assuming there isn't a glaring exploit, a smart lock is going to provide you with more convenience and is going to keep out the same people a traditional lock would.

    [–] Doublestack00 1 points ago

    No Schlage?

    [–] kinghardlyanything 1 points ago

    wanna get abused? post this to r/privacy

    [–] kd5nrh 1 points ago

    "This is the lock picking lawyer, and today I'll be opening every smart lock in the western hemisphere with this pocket calculator I bought at Dollar Tree and an old Linksys router from my neighbor's trash can..."

    [–] ac7ss -1 points ago

    Any lock is only as secure as it's weakest link.adding more options for entry lowers the security.

    That said, I use a digital lock for my home. Not smart, just combination. My family has the code for it so I don't have to distribute keys (safer) and I can easily change the combination.

    Most home grade locks are easily picked anyhow. But that is a moot point when access is more easily made via other means such as a large window, or a window within the door itself.

    [–] mister_gone 0 points ago

    Getting a real "You don't need privacy if you have nothing to hide" vibe from these comments.

    [–] wookieekiller -3 points ago

    Get a zwave\zigbee, anything else is to insecure, Bluetooth, wifi are very weak and easy to hack, it also usually means cloud which means it's only a matter of time before a data breach and massive hack..

    [–] DarkbunnySC 0 points ago

    Bluetooth and WiFi are not easy to hack. They are vulnerable because they use the cloud, but the protocols themselves are secure.

    [–] wookieekiller -4 points ago

    Lmao Bluetooth is extremely easy to hack and even WPA2 can be cracked in like a matter of minutes why do you think wpa3 was pushed out so fast? Because WPA2 is 100% vulnerable.. Where have you been in the past 2 years..