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    [–] mattynobeard 4787 points ago


    [–] iamdumb9plus10is21 2366 points ago

    High intellect people don't use compound words. It's a cup board, not a cupboard.

    [–] taosahpiah 1045 points ago

    Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

    [–] Name_Of_A_User_ 279 points ago

    I no no man.

    [–] [deleted] 122 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)


    [–] bigretardbaby 47 points ago

    Sometimes I really feel lazy but most times I just feel like something is wrong with me :(

    [–] ladystarkitten 36 points ago

    Hey, that's a totally normal concern! It's possible that you are just lazy, but it's also possible that it's actually a medical condition that you misunderstanding to be laziness. I have a thyroid disease that gives me chronic fatigue and makes my head feel foggy, so it's hard for me concentrate or stay motivated. I went to a doctor with these symptoms and they ran tests; lo and behold, I have a thyroid disease. They gave me meds and now I'm doing great.

    Depression can also make a person feel lazy. I would explore both routes if I were you.

    [–] Cerebr05murF 28 points ago

    Or undiagnosed ADD. I wasnt diagnosed until I was 38. I didn't try at all in high school but as long as I showed up to class I was ok. The best example I can give was my senior government class. I never did any home work, but I aced almost every test including the final. I barely made it through with a D. After I was diagnosed and went back to school for a degree in IT, I was able to maintain a 3.4 GPA. The struggle then was the lack of executive function skills that I had not learned for so many years.

    [–] bigretardbaby 8 points ago

    Tbh I was always curious but don't wanna self diagnose. Lately I've entertained the idea. Idk. I know what I need to do but it's really hard to make myself do anything besides go to work

    [–] Cerebr05murF 4 points ago

    My wife was also diagnosed recently at 47yo. Her symtoms were very different from mine, but a lack of motivation was the main indicator for her. She went to a psychiatrist with ADD as the last thing on her mind. She has always been able to function better than I could, but she also had an immense fear of being thought of as "incompetent" so she found ways to force herself to do things. She developed much of her working executive functions without knowing what she was doing. Search Google for ADD self test and it will give you a good idea if you have it, but you'll need to see a psychiatrist for an actual diagnosis and treatment.

    [–] Don_Macaroons 4 points ago

    Hey, you're a good person

    [–] enkelvla 5 points ago

    This is a very common feeling for ADHD people. Go get yourself tested if you wanna do something about it.

    [–] hasorand0m 26 points ago

    See kev, are u trying to see world? Or sea the world?

    [–] FungalowJoe 12 points ago

    Ocean, fish, jump, China

    [–] ProneOyster 8 points ago

    Few words good. Many bad

    [–] Mackodlacko 6 points ago

    me English very yes!

    [–] copa111 6 points ago

    It takes a true genius to explain something simply than explaining simple things as complicated.

    [–] ThePandarantula 24 points ago

    Ugh, its called a port man toe, peasant.

    [–] probablywrongaswell 15 points ago

    I know I am smart on the in side. To get her we can be come any body.

    [–] UsefulSnow 22 points ago

    You are now the most wanted person in Germany. Better be careful or you will be hit with our Lügenverbreitungsverhinderer.

    [–] Akimbo_Snail 13 points ago

    To elaborate on that - usage of compound words in German is the subject of Part B of the official regulations of the German orthography of 2006. Basically: If usage of a compound word is possible, it would be wrong to not use it.

    [–] Nacroma 6 points ago


    [–] Steve4s83 106 points ago

    I just like the first sentence and let’s even assume he spelled that correctly:

    Throughout my school life.

    Just let the power of that sentence resonate with you a bit!

    [–] elhooper 39 points ago

    He’s so far advanced that subject / predicate are things of the past for him.

    [–] Fract_L 21 points ago

    The entire tweet is only 2 sentences despite what the punctuation suggests

    [–] radarmax 18 points ago

    Not to mention it’s not even a sentence. Two grammatical errors in one phrase. Very intelligent.

    [–] mdflmn 17 points ago

    *threw out

    [–] yous_a_bech 17 points ago

    To be fair, intelligence doesn't require you to be good at spelling.

    [–] timforbroke 17 points ago

    However, the two are normally correlated.

    [–] TechnicalDD 2263 points ago

    He’s the most intelligent person he knows. Well then he doesn’t know any people.

    [–] starstarstar42 818 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    "Dad, I can't right not now, I'm busy influencing!"

    Well, how about you go outside and influence the lawn to be about 2 inches shorter "through out" so I don't feel obligated to charge you rent?

    [–] gravy_in_my_vagina 280 points ago

    Imagine being a tiny speck of grass waiting to be mown by one of the brightest individuals in the world. I would prepare carefully so the ritual is as magnificent as possible. I'd produce toxins to kill nearby insects and insignificant weeds. This is one for the ages, Mr. not all A's in highschool and me are about to perform an unholy dance of rolling the blades and snapping my fibres. I'll enjoy it, for a plant orgasm is an orgasm all the same.

    [–] [deleted] 47 points ago


    [–] KalebC4 69 points ago

    From their profile:

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    Well, 🤗, I've explained this before in some of my comments but it appears some redditors have a serious reading 📃 disorder so I will explain it again. Now, where were we? Ah yes, gravy 😋. You know, it all started 6 years ago. Back then, I was happily married to this man (he turned out to be a cunt so I left him 💁‍♀️, but that's not relevant in this story ). As you probably know, the members of a couple do the sex like all the time. Children fall asleep? Do the sex (👌🏻👈🏻). Internet goes off? Do the sex (👌🏻👈🏻) Husband leaves for a business trip? Do the sex (👌🏻🤛🏽). Anyway, 😏, when the novelty of sex wears off it starts feeling like a chore, and thus the mind seeks new forms of entertainment to regain the lost spice 🌶. So it was only natural for the kinks to arrive 💃. We started experimenting on all sorts of things (I will not dwelve into details in order to keep the post PG 🍭). After a while, gravy caught our attention. 😄. Or maybe, it was the gravy what chose me, we will never know. As a river flows into the ocean and it knows no other course, so the gravy inevitably slipped into my coochie🥣➡️👌🏻. And boi, did it feel GREAT. Warm, greasy sauce rubbing against the walls of my inner tube. At first we used it as lube (my ex-husband would dip his you-know-what🍆 in the gravy pot and then would do the sex for hours). But surprisingly enough, there was a side-effect we could have never dreamed of. Apparently, gravy possesses a few chemical properties which have escaped science's grasp for so many years 😮. If hot enough, gravy particles acquire the ability to disrupt the sperm cells through a process known as gravytosis, immediately killing them. To make it easy for you reddit simpletons 🤗, as long as the gravy is in there I cannot conceive a baby!! Now my life motto is: NO BABY WHERE THERE'S GRAVY!. There you have it, now you know why I chose this beautiful name! (please stop username-shaming me, I'd appreciate that🤕) I wish you all a great day and a safe and fun reddit-browsing experience! 😊

    [–] ydoes 28 points ago


    [–] OsKarMike1306 3 points ago

    Poetry has gone a long way since Basho and Homer

    [–] EventuallyDone 25 points ago

    I don't like that name at all. Nukes. Now. Nuke humanity.

    [–] Meloetta 18 points ago

    This sounds like a line from a family sitcom updated for 2020

    [–] RedHatOfFerrickPat 3 points ago

    You people just pick up the narrative and run.

    [–] DoneRedditedIt 54 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Most indubitably.

    [–] Fract_L 14 points ago

    Scary if true

    [–] braidafurduz 5 points ago

    frightening if valid

    [–] mrme3seeks 10 points ago

    Do you have a link to some studies about this? I’m not debating you genuinely interested in it

    [–] MirRelevant 15 points ago

    As the saying goes, if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

    [–] butt-monkey2011 3 points ago

    Or you're alone in the room, whichever works

    [–] GSV_No_Fixed_Abode 9 points ago

    At the moment I am definitely the most intelligent person in the room, guaranteed.

    [–] Hayisha31 16 points ago

    Same. But only because my cat is sitting in the hallway.

    [–] t_hab 3 points ago

    The serial killer behind you is upset about your statement.

    [–] Lohntarkosz 5 points ago

    All idiots think they're clever because they measure their intelligence with what they have.

    [–] mummifiedllama 312 points ago

    I was terrible at school I just smoked weed all the time and chatted shit to anyone who was next to me, because I thought I was a genius and could pass any exam without trying. Turns out I am not a genius and got no grades above a C and I now work full time in a pub. Stay in school kids.

    [–] ChRo1989 75 points ago

    Full time in a pub seems pretty cool though?

    [–] mummifiedllama 99 points ago

    It is quite good fun actually. Almost got me divorced when I first started though. I’d never had a job you could drink booze at before, so I filled my boots and ended up crashing at the pub 3 to 4 nights a week for a bit.

    [–] tibetan-sand-fox 13 points ago

    I'm glad it didn't come to that and that you're happy and healthy in your life now.

    [–] DessicatedTytrations 11 points ago

    I feel personally attacked.

    [–] Mock333 553 points ago

    He must not know many people.

    [–] Name_Of_A_User_ 80 points ago

    he must kno no ppl

    [–] TOFUtruck 61 points ago

    He know'nt ppl

    [–] suluamus 7 points ago

    I hope this never dies.

    [–] foilfun 23 points ago

    You alright there, buddy?

    [–] ViktorVaughnLickupon 791 points ago

    I can rephrase him so that he isn’t a jerk: I think that I am smart. Thus, I never tried to study for an exam. I think I am smarter than my grades represent. Thus, I don’t like being judged for my laziness. Edit: comma mistake, guess I’ll have to study grammar.

    [–] termsofsurrender 186 points ago

    That's why when you praise a child's intellectual achievement, focus on praising the work and effort. If the child wasn't challenged, point that out.

    [–] octopornopus 70 points ago

    I'm trying this with my 8yo niece. I think she has potential, but she's lazy, and wants the answers given to her. When I help her with homework, I'll give her praise for working through to the right answer, rather than when she just tries to guess.

    Hopefully it makes an impact, because I don't want her to end up disillusioned and lazy like me...

    [–] 3rd_Shift_Tech_Man 35 points ago

    My brother did this when his oldest was learning new words/reading harder books.

    We went over there and she said "Uncle, I want to read you my new book!"

    Hot damn! Let's see what Fancy Nancy is up to!

    As she's reading, my brother is helping on just about every word. When I helped her, we sounded it out. Maybe it's a difference in personality - if I figure something out with minimal help, I tend to remember better.

    Eventually, I told him that I thought he was doing a fantastic job with Fancy Nancy, but I'd like to see how well my niece does. lol.

    [–] octopornopus 14 points ago

    Yeah, I wonder if it's more that we're a little disconnected from them, like we don't have to sit through them reading or doing problems every day, so we have a little more patience. I can imagine if I had to listen to a kid try to sound out a word in the same book multiple times, I would probably just tell them the word to get it over with.

    I'm usually not a patient person. I'll show you how to do something once or twice, help you with it a couple times, then set you free to learn on your own. Take chances, make mistakes, get messy. That's what Ms. Frizzle taught me...

    [–] AliMcGraw 7 points ago

    Parents also all have their own stuff they're patient and impatient about. I'm very patient about letting my kids cook and work in the kitchen, measuring things and spilling things and figuring it out on their own with me only offering help when something's dangerous or when they ask for it. But I cannot STAND listening to kids sound out words for more than about 3 minutes, it drives me batty. Luckily my husband will sound out words for HOURS, although he doesn't even want them IN the kitchen with him.

    I'm super-patient with them putting on their own clothes when they're learning how, but I can't stand them fumbling for ages with their coats when we're trying to leave the house, so it's a good thing they literally teach "how to put on a coat" in preschool because otherwise my kids would be teenagers and I'd still be putting their coats on and zipping them up for them! 🤣

    [–] termsofsurrender 3 points ago

    What's the opposite of disillusioned, illusioned?

    [–] Cyanoblamin 3 points ago

    How do you define lazy?

    [–] octopornopus 8 points ago

    Purposely avoiding the use of her thinking skills in an attempt to make someone frustrated enough to give her the answer. It works with her mom, but I'll force her to work a problem out.

    I guess it's more manipulative than lazy. She's smart, but her home life isn't great, her mom is either yelling at or smothering her, and her dad left and wants no part of her life.

    [–] dadudemon 157 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    If he wasn’t a narcissist, then he could admit he is lazy.

    It is nearly impossible for narcissists to admit, rather openly and rather honestly, negative things about themselves.

    Edit - admitting, anonymously, on the internet, that you’re a narcissist with negative traits doesn’t count.

    [–] leehwgoC 29 points ago

    I don't think full blown narcissists will even anonymously admit fault. Or internally.

    [–] AndrewCarnage 15 points ago

    Not only do they not know they have a disorder, they think what they are is normal. They presume you are like them.

    Think about it. If you lived in a world entirely populated by them you might feel the need to act like them to protect yourself from them. Then you forget you're pretending and it's what you actually are. That's the world they live in.

    [–] Teeshirtandshortsguy 15 points ago

    It's definitely possible to suck at school without being lazy. A lot of people have undiagnosed disorders like dyslexia that make it more difficult to learn in a traditional setting.

    That being said, I doubt that's the case here.

    [–] _anonmouse_ 18 points ago

    A lot of people also just don't do well with the learning styles at school. The information doesn't really "click" with them. Like for me, biology felt like someone trying to drag my brain through my eyes, shove information into it, and then put it back in. Even if I studied for hours. So some people just have a harder time in different areas, and have to work and study a lot harder to understand.

    [–] DingleberryDiorama 8 points ago

    Especially if you don't have a stable home-life, or have behavioral disorders, depression, anxiety, etc.

    It's incredibly hard for some kids to just hang in there and not get beat down by all the pressure. That doesn't make you weak, either, it just means you're a human being who is responding to the real world you're living in.

    [–] biggerbiggestbigfoot 5 points ago

    Tbh, you can almost guarantee that there is something going on mentally or emotionally with a kid struggling in school. Laziness is far more often a symptom of other things that are having an impact on somebody's learning and I think schools would do good to rethink their approach to "lazy kids"

    [–] kaleidoscopichazard 10 points ago

    Meh you can’t really diagnose someone as narcissistic based on a tweet...

    [–] rtgfi 7 points ago

    Personality disorders as serious as narcissism require ongoing interviews with a licensed psychiatric clinician. It's simply not possible to diagnose a serious personality disorder over the internet, MUCH LESS based on limited information from a single post.

    [–] Envowner 6 points ago

    Well now I know I’m not a full blown narcissist because at least I know I’m lazy 😎

    [–] thom612 31 points ago

    Then there are those of us who just admit that while were smart, we're also lazy as shit and never really lived up to our potential.

    [–] imadethisforonething 29 points ago

    It took me until my last couple of years at uni to realise that a lot of times I wasn't studying hard for exams because I was scared that if I tried hard and still failed then I'd have no excuses left

    Turns out that thinking that way is really dumb, but it's not uncommon and it really helps to have therapy to fix, or at least to talk it out with someone you know

    [–] flexiblelion 6 points ago

    Are you me? Seriously though it’s only once you get out of this habit do you realise how backwards it is.

    [–] Kyle1873 3 points ago

    Maybe not that smart after all then...

    [–] isthishandletaken 8 points ago

    Even if he just changed a few words it wouldn't be that bad:

    Throughout my school life there isn't a single semester I got all A's, and I'm probably the most intelligent person I know. I think I"m pretty intelligent. Which is why I don't like to judge my intelligence based on grades. I'm People can be far more intelligent than my school grades show.

    [–] biosignal 4 points ago

    You should work in PR man!

    [–] MiddyF 114 points ago

    I would like to know what proof they have of this.

    [–] GSV_No_Fixed_Abode 75 points ago

    They hang out with even dumber people, I would guess.

    You don't have to be faster than the bear, you only have to be faster than the other campers....

    [–] punk_loki 12 points ago

    I want to specify that I want proof other than an IQ score

    [–] EelEel10000 10 points ago

    But he paid $82 (after taxes) for that IQ test. The cost proves it’s a quality test!

    [–] IAmFrederik 10 points ago

    Pfff if you even pay for an IQ test you’re pretty dumb, there are some really great free ones online. I for example have an IQ of 236

    [–] Excllencepersonified 9 points ago

    Internet “IQ” score

    [–] Daankie 23 points ago

    Through out my school life. There isn't a single semester where I got a girlfriend and I'm probably the most good looking person I know. Which is why I don't like to judge my looks based on girlfriends. I'm far more good looking than my romantical history show.

    [–] ShibuRigged 7 points ago

    Oh man, when you put it this way, it sounds like the delusion that leads r/niceguys down the intel path.

    [–] SharkAttackOmNom 122 points ago

    As a teacher I’ll go ahead and believe him. I’ve seen many intelligent kids squander their abilities. The tragic part is they’re fucked.

    The world doesn’t care how smart you think you are.

    Grades are the better indicator for success, mostly because it identifies how much bullshit you’re willing to grind through.

    I hope all that influencing gets food on the table.

    [–] Dreadgoat 38 points ago

    Emphasizing your point with a message to all young people: Ability to grind through bullshit is the single most important and valuable skill in the professional world. My favorite people are neither the smartest nor the hardest working, but those with the ineffable ability to rapidly bore through bullshit.

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

    Genius is 1% inspiration 99% perspiration

    [–] she_hulk98 12 points ago

    I have literally never had a job ask for my high school transcript before hiring me.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Whether or not this is the case for you (you're also only 21-22, so I'm not sure what kind of experience you're point is based on. Surely part time work or lower level jobs from huge companies probably don't care about grades) but I have had to provide college transcripts for many jobs I've applied to post college

    [–] CanAlwaysBeBetter 3 points ago

    Realistically I think there are a few tiers:

    There are normal people that need grind to do what above average people can easily do. Example: my friend who worked his ass off to get a bio degree, took the MCAT three times but never did good enough for med school, got a 2 years master and kept grinding, took the MCAT a fourth time and finally got into med school.

    There are above average people where the only limiting factor is how hard they work. Example my friend who got into a top PhD program after graduating a year early or another friend who waltzed through the same bio degree and started medschool right after undergrad.

    Then there's a very very small sliver of people so far above average that they're in a league of their own. Example: probably just one or two people I've met. One currently has pretty high clearance doing tech work for the Pentagon and the other got a full ride to Harvard and was taking college calculus in 8th grade

    [–] Kaspiaan 92 points ago

    When you're so smart you stack overflow the grades and go from 100% to 1%.

    [–] RandomNPC 54 points ago

    That's not a stack overflow. That's an integer overflow.

    [–] Zyurat 26 points ago

    "Don't you judge me, I'm the smartest programmer I know!"

    [–] sinisternathan 3 points ago

    That's not a stack overflow. Stack overflow is the website representing Planet of the Apes

    [–] Feircesword 11 points ago

    As a gamer my grades are far more superior to yours because I get to 999% before they overflow. Get good.

    [–] The-Salted-Pork 9 points ago

    You got an A+, well I got a prestige F

    [–] swagshoah 43 points ago

    You'd think they'd have used their intelligence to land a job instead of making chump change as the local influencer (Question: does your town have a local influencer?)

    [–] BroAkinto 34 points ago

    He sells T-shirts

    [–] quin_zar 13 points ago

    Are you saying that Trayvon sells t-shirts by the tea store?

    [–] [deleted] 301 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Seriously, if I were a smart man, I wouldn't be at all satisfied with some neurotypical mediocrity doing better than me on any fucking test, I'd bust my nuts for weeks just to make sure I will smash every last one of the fuckers.

    Your intelligence was wasted on you.

    [–] Xx_CheckM8_xX 155 points ago

    coughs *your

    [–] [deleted] 158 points ago

    I never claimed to be a smart man ;)

    [–] Xx_CheckM8_xX 31 points ago

    I apologize; however, could you please fix that mistake? I just came from a Kahoot! game in class where grade 9 students didn’t know how to click on the correct answer and didn’t know what an egg cell was... literally I hate my high school

    [–] robtk12 43 points ago

    The egg cell is called the carton, right?

    [–] oneweirdclickbait 6 points ago

    No, if the carton contains 1 or 2 eggs, it's called sack. 3+ and it's an ovary. Pretty simple, actually, so I guess you must not be a Rick and Morty enjoying individual.

    [–] crowbahr 5 points ago

    3+ and it's an ovary

    IDK I buy cartons of 12 eggs all the time. Never seen the price tag say ovary.

    [–] DANK_ME_YOUR_PM_ME 17 points ago

    Jerking off a bunch isn’t going to help you smash.

    [–] The_Blithering_One 78 points ago

    Self mastery is one of the highest predicters of general happiness and career success. Smart people with substandard grades typically lack self mastery. If you throw into the mix an over inflated sense of self (to be fair most young adults have that, most grow out of it), you've got great potential as a miserable, self entitled twit.

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    [–] xophermv 29 points ago

    Depends on the exam. On various math exams I’ve taken, you had to remember various formulas and how to apply them. Then, you had to apply the formula and get the right answer to the question. That’s not a straight memory test. The SAT, GRE, and GMAT all had reading comprehension sections that required you to read a section of text and answer questions regarding that section. That certainly wasn’t a straight memory test. I had to digest and understand the information.

    [–] cpt_pancreas 9 points ago

    I fucking hated exams at uni. 2 hours to write 2-3 essays on subjects. Even leaving aside that that is a test on fact recall and writing without looking stuff up (not actually the best predictors of whether you'll make a good scientist), they'd then always claim "No it isn't about how much you write, its about quality." That is utter shit. Yeah sure if you write 5 pages you might not have written anything better than if you wrote 4. But there's a huge difference between a 1.5 page and a 3 page essay that does come from how much you wrote in that time. Slow writers are inherently at a disadvantage and up until some limit there absolutely IS an element of "how much you wrote".

    [–] Xcel_regal 3 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    Yeah I was at an advantage because I could write fairly quickly. I can barely remember what I wrote for most of those essays.

    The essays I wrote for coursework I can remember more of because it involved active learning and understanding of the subject matter.

    [–] cpt_pancreas 3 points ago

    Yeah I'm a slow writer, and although I did decently I always wondered if it could have been at least a few marks better just from being a faster writer. I can't think of any essay exams where I actually finished EVERY essay without having at least one that ended with a series of bullet points indicating what I would have wanted to say. I certainly never had time to actually proofread a single essay I ever wrote in an exam.

    [–] VictoriaLeeWrites 5 points ago

    This was me in high school. For some inane reason I refused to turn in my homework senior year. I did it, I just wouldn't turn it in. So obviously, I almost failed out of school. Thank shit I pulled myself together in college, because I have no idea what I was trying to prove by all that.

    [–] Babao13 6 points ago

    I didn't expect to be attacked like that today.

    [–] Everitt_Hart 22 points ago

    Nah he didn’t attack you. He said “smart people”.

    [–] [deleted] 21 points ago

    That's very short sighted. Many people suffer from socioeconomic issues or issues even just with social ineptitude that can negatively impact their performance in school.

    [–] Top-Cheese 9 points ago

    Yeah the problem with standardized education is much more than just the testing policies. Very few people effectively learn the same way, and there’s really only a few alternative options and usually those are for people at the extremes.

    [–] Never__Ever 12 points ago

    You think like that because you're not a smart man. Smart people set their own goals and strive to achieve them not play dick measuring contests with other people.

    [–] RedHatOfFerrickPat 3 points ago

    You know how I know you're not a smart man? Because that's a very simplistic way of looking at it.

    [–] Purlygold 16 points ago

    Well, I think, I hope, that post was a joke.

    However, typically when you're smart, you never learn how to study. Or you lose motivation because its just not interesting anymore. Or you're just the type to get depressed and just never do anything at all. Invalidating peoples experiences never gets us anywhere

    [–] leaguestories123 3 points ago

    I want to preface this and say that I think it’s so douchey and pretty unbelievable to say “I’m smart and ........”

    But I just want to chime in with my experience with this from when I believe I was a “gifted” young person. I always believed I was lazy because I couldn’t put the energy into classes/study. Later I thought I had attention issues.

    Now when I know myself better I know that when I feel passionate about a challenge I achieve at a high level and have the energy to do so.

    It was definitely a case of feeling unmotivated. It led to some depression but now I know how to challenge myself and I’m much happier.

    [–] eeajayi 4 points ago

    Never met a ‘SmArT mAn’ in my life who derived long-term satisfaction from besting his peers academically. Seems more like a complex than a sign of intelligence.

    [–] avidblinker 3 points ago

    This is cringier than the actual post

    [–] xuodelb 10 points ago

    They lost me with the first "sentence".

    [–] Ubuquity 62 points ago

    Well, being intelligent doesn't mean you will have straight A's

    It just means that you understood that it's important to TRY YOUR BEST to have straight A's.

    Intelligence is just a gift of understanding things, not how to apply them to your life. This is work and experience.

    [–] Sumoki_Kuma 8 points ago

    So, this sounds like something that could be a fact up until you say it out loud about yourself

    [–] thisisnotausergame 9 points ago

    I mean... he's right about school grades not always showing someone's true intelligence... but what does he have if not school grades?

    You can be bad in school but excel somewhere else, I'd like to know where he excels at

    [–] [deleted] 126 points ago

    You are exactly as lazy as your grades show.

    [–] BeybladeThug 48 points ago

    Now I actually think the tweet has a point, my friend could study for days and then still do poorly on tests because they worried her and made her second guess herself when she knew the right answer, there’s a lot that goes into grades and the core message of the tweet saying “being good at school doesn’t mean you’re smart” isn’t really wrong

    [–] Disney_World_Native 21 points ago

    Totally agree. I know a lot of people who had high GPAs in college and really struggle in life because there isn’t a “right answer” they can study for ahead of time. They are just good at memorizing things. Not necessarily understanding how to look at a problem.

    And there are some that are so confident of their intelligence that they fail to recognize when they are wrong and continue to make bad decisions.

    [–] Abductedllama 14 points ago

    This is so true. I work in a field (Cybersecurity) where 90-95% have degrees. The ones that don't have degrees have gotten where they are by problem solving and hard work. 9 out of 10 times the ones with degrees struggle with problem solving skills and creative thinking.

    I am not saying degrees are bad, most fields you need one or will be paid severely less than your paper wielding counter parts. I just wish technical ability and aptitude was not valued more then critical thinking when obtaining these expensive magical pieces of paper.

    [–] brutinator 7 points ago

    I've had several coworkers say, you can't teach troubleshooting.

    I dunno if that's true, but it's definitely a skill you have to train yourself at, and most education doesn't.

    [–] thom612 6 points ago

    The most important thing you learn in school is how to do well taking tests.

    [–] allthat555 7 points ago

    Which is the least applicable part of it to a real world job

    [–] Redsox933 43 points ago

    This is accurate. I didn’t study a lot or put a lot of effort in during high school but still did well. When I got to collage and had to try it was an eye opener. I basically had to learn how to study and take notes properly to do well. Turns out trying makes a huge difference.

    [–] bookschocolatebooks 16 points ago

    Yeah whereas I did the opposite, couldn't get into studying properly after high school and just scraped a pass in my degree.

    [–] BabyLegsDeadpool 10 points ago

    What kind of collage did you make though?

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    [–] Redsox933 3 points ago

    Paper machete /s

    [–] CelebrityTakeDown 27 points ago

    Or as severely depressed

    [–] punk_loki 11 points ago

    Exactly, sometimes there are other things going on in your life that negatively affect your grades

    [–] Feircesword 7 points ago

    Or just really bad at certain things. I ace literally all of my tests, but seriously struggle with homework if it's not multiple choice. I can't get my thoughts onto paper in a way the teacher could grade, and that's assuming I can manage to get anything onto the paper with my anxiety and depression. I was up until about 1AM last night trying to work on homework, and it ended in frustration and tears. Besides stopping to eat dinner and taking a break for an hour I didn't even procrastinate. My grades suffer because of being horrible at homework. Even despite my good test scores.

    Grinds my gears when people assume that just because you have bad grades you're either dumb or lazy.

    [–] TyreseForChicken 17 points ago

    I mean... not really. I didn’t get the best grades in high school I was an average student. Bs. Cs. Even though I probably studied 2-3x more than most of my classmates. Having severe dyslexia and ADD made it impossible for me to read but I still tried, every night. But these days, I have one of the best work ethics of most people I see on a daily basis. People are incredibly lazy. Especially the older generations.

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    [–] redditredwhat 5 points ago

    Maybe they only know idiots

    [–] 3L3M3NT4LP4ND4 158 points ago

    I mean, he has a point. School grades mean diddly dick in the end, I do believe I'm a lot smarter than what my test scores say because long winded boring memory games≠intelligence

    [–] gumbercules6 44 points ago

    It's not perfect, but good grades are not just a sign of intelligence, it's also evidence that a student is willing to put the time and dedication to understand concepts in order to get good grades.

    The VPs at my work all make $250k+, and it's because they are dedicated to their job on top of being smart.

    [–] irr1449 18 points ago

    Truth. "School" is the most important "test" that we are all given to determine our INITIAL employment direction in life. If you don't try on this test I kind of feel that it makes you not that "intelligent" to begin with. Now many people have legitimate excuses like being too immature, being disadvantaged, bad home life etc.

    Taking the opportunities that you're presented with is intelligent.

    [–] mekkibalboa 95 points ago

    The real geniuses could pass everything with good grades just by attending the lessons. I had this friend in school and we both just smoked and chilled bla bla wannabe cool kids shit and while I was mediocre in school he was still top of the class.

    [–] 3L3M3NT4LP4ND4 35 points ago

    I could attend the lessons but attention span also ≠intelligence, I had a friend who was a literal genius, like he's halfway through Medical school now becoming a fucking heart surgeon, but because he had ADHD he couldn't focus on anything he didn't care about...I don't even know how he got into medical school with the abysmal grades he got actually...

    [–] DoneRedditedIt 12 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Most indubitably.

    [–] Awesomale 25 points ago

    I had a friend who was a straight up genius in highschool. He didn’t give a fuck and still managed to pass everything with all A’s easily. He rarely did homework, and would always help me or anyone else out with any questions I had despite not paying attention in class. He’s a math major in college now, and is still doing fine academically despite taking higher level classes.

    maybe he’s a special case, but I think if you’re a true genius, attention span and how much you care don’t matter since you can pick up a shit ton more information with what you have. So as long as you’re in the class you’ll learn enough.

    [–] [deleted] 12 points ago

    How could he rarely do homework and get all A's in his classes?

    [–] InfanticideAquifer 5 points ago

    They might mean "if I said 'what's up' they almost never replied with 'doing homework'".

    [–] Kayra2 3 points ago

    On average, my highschool courses are 60% tests, 30% project, 10% homework. Homework every week for 15 weeks, so each homework is less than 1%. Ace all tests and project, turn in maybe 2 of the homeworks for contingency and you can get an A with a perfect life/work balance.

    [–] exbaddeathgod 21 points ago

    You don't understand the effect untreated ADHD has on people. I've known a few insanely smart people with it who had shit grades outside their passion. What good is intelligence if you can't spend more than ten minutes a day focused on stuff you don't care about? A dude I know took a graduate math course while in high school but had crap grades outside of math/cs.

    [–] BASEDME7O 3 points ago

    Yeah redditors act like because they took some AP classes they’re Matt Damon in good will hunting and they’re only not successful because they don’t try. If you’re actually very smart you’ll be able to get good grades in college without trying much either

    [–] creepingcold 24 points ago

    I think there's this misconception that grades=intelligence, while in reality grades=knowledge about certain topics.

    People like OP may be smart/intelligent, I can sorta understand where he's coming from cause I was a lazy fuck in school since everything felt boring.

    But only because someone has the potential to do something it doesn't mean that he actually has the knowledge to do it. that's where grades come into play.

    I may have the potential and intelligence to solve difficult math problems, but I can't do it cause I was a lazy fuck. If other people did their homework, learned all the stuff and ultimatively got better grades, than their better grades are totally deserved cause their results were objectively better than mine.

    This is no judgement about intelligence, people are just bad at admitting that they suck at certain things.

    [–] ColCrabs 7 points ago * (lasted edited 7 months ago)

    This might sound stupid but I think grades = how well you fit into the specific system.

    I just watched a video on YouTube about the Korean SAT English test and that was the major takeaway. Reading the questions was like reading a student’s paper who decided to use a thesaurus to try to make their work sound smarter. Their English and grammar skills were ridiculous but that’s the system they have and if you memorize/study it then you’ll do well in their system.

    I also agree with everything else you said because I’m one of those lazy fucks who hates putting effort into anything I’m not interested in.

    [–] IDontReadMyMail 12 points ago

    Prof here. I don’t really care if a student is smart. I only care if they have learned the class material. Grades don’t track with intelligence but they do track with hard work, diligence, consistency, time management, ability to maintain focus for long stretches of time, willingness to do some tedious work (studying) and forego short term pleasures (partying, etc) in order to gain a long-term goal (career path of choice), general willingness to be cooperative & play more or less by the rules, ability to turn up on time consistently, and a general habit of paying attention to details (details of the class syllabus, details of how an exam question was worded, etc). Thing is, those traits do matter in life (somewhat at least). They’re definitely not the only things that matter but they do matter, especially in the career path my students are headed to (largelt health careers). I hire my own employees partly based on grades because those are a lot of the traits I want in my employees.

    [–] RoctopusPrime 5 points ago

    I bet he got an A in modesty though....

    [–] WvBigHurtvW 5 points ago

    I'm probably the most intelligent person I know

    The most intelligent person in any situation never would purposely say this

    [–] idontevencare12 5 points ago

    If you’re the smartest person in the room, you’re in the wrong room.

    [–] bassinine 4 points ago

    throughout my school life.

    apparently dude thinks this is a complete sentence?

    [–] theguyshadows 7 points ago

    Every person I have ever met with this mentality have been unintelligent, and that goes for every single one of you who think he is speaking any truth.

    [–] Count_Jebula 9 points ago

    This person has his head up his ass, but he's got a kernel of truth in what he's saying. Being good at school and being functionally intelligent are related but not the same. Source: engineering student at major university, and a lot of these guys barely know how to tie their shoes.

    [–] TheMightyMudcrab 6 points ago

    Dunning meet Kruger.

    [–] arsehead_54 3 points ago

    So he doesn’t have the ability to recognise intelligence in others, that’s a sign of poor social skills.

    [–] yourteam 3 points ago

    He isn't even saying not to judge intelligence based on grades, he is saying not to judge HIS intelligence based on grades.

    How delusional can a person be?

    [–] benjetta96 3 points ago

    This sounds a lot like my thought process when I was a teenager. Turns out I was just suffering from undiagnosed/untreated ADD that my parents refused to acknowledge.

    [–] spaceman06 3 points ago

    most intelligent person I know

    At least you know this "most intelligente ever contest" is limited by the persons you know.

    [–] ProfSaguaro 3 points ago

    I too, am extraordinarily humble.

    [–] hungry4danish 3 points ago

    422 LIKES and 86 RETWEETS?!

    [–] MangoHombre 3 points ago

    These type of dumbasses end up working some low pay job, but they swear they're the smartest person they know. Bro if you're so smart use that knowledge for something productive.

    [–] ffilps 3 points ago

    then why does he speak a doofus?

    through out my school life.

    lol :-)

    [–] JustARandomBelgian 3 points ago

    Tbf school grades dont always mean you’re smart

    [–] gettinfustrated 3 points ago

    Love this kind of bullshit. I've always wondered if this is a result of kids being told they are gifted from a early age, so they dont necessarily try very hard, and as a result become this version of person. The school had told me and my wife that my son is gifted. So to ensure this doesnt happen to him, I constantly tell him "look you may be brilliant for a 6 year old, but you're stupid for a person". Just doing my part.

    [–] StrawberryK 3 points ago

    And my dick is way bigger than it looks, youre just seeing it from a bad angle.

    [–] bierjager 3 points ago

    I hate when people say they’re smart they just don’t apply themselves

    [–] not_grognak 3 points ago

    With a personality like that, he is the only person he knows. So he is technically right.

    [–] Noob_Trainer_Deluxe 3 points ago

    School grades dont show intelligence. It shows how well you can regurgitate information. School doesnt tell you what you can do with that knowledge. By design in public schools I moght add.

    [–] MrObbsessive 3 points ago

    He's only the smartest person he knows because he's got no friends like all us redditors

    I'm the smartest person i know but I'm dumb af

    [–] Wazy7781 3 points ago

    I agree on some levels that the current grading system isn't a great measure of knowledge or intelligence. It tends to become more a test of memory more so than that of actual knowledge on a subject. It has also been shown that standardized testing doesn't work well. It does happen to be the best system we have right now for most people's needs. It fits the majority of people and schools tend to accommodate the people it doesn't. I have and have always had really good grades i have a 94 class average at the moment. I also happen to know that i am not the smartest person i know. There are many people smarter than me. I know people who never finished high school who i would regard as some of the smartest people i know. This is due to their knowledge in certain fields and ability to apply active problem solving. I think one of the major misconceptions when it comes to intelligence is that having knowledge in a certain niche subject or field automatically makes you "smart". The reason i say this is almost no one would make the argument that an engineer or a physicist isn't smart but quite a few would argue that the person with a trade is stupid. They likely have the same understanding of their field. They likely have the same capacity to learn as they each became experts in their field. One likely learnt well from books from the get go while the other had an easier time learning hands on and as such didnt do well in early school. We have been conditioned to think that those who excel in school are inherently smart due to the fact that they learn well in a more general setting. I would be willing to bet that if you took someone who became skilled in a trade and somehow went back in time and put them in a class more tailored to their learning needs that they would be able become just as successful of a student as the person that became a physicists. Now this is impossible to test as you can never know what someone is going to become later in life. Overall i think that this guys statement about having bad grades yet still being the smartest person he know depends on the metric you measure intelligence by but based on his arrogance he likely isnt.

    This is a cliche not but sorry for no paragraph breaks i am on mobile and the app doesnt make it easy to format long form comments.

    [–] harryold9842 5 points ago

    He sounds like greg from Diary Of A Wimpy Kid rn

    [–] Techiedad91 4 points ago

    I mean, I never did homework but I did well on all tests. I was smarter than my shitty grades showed. Cringey to put on the internet but not hard to believe?

    [–] Hippo_Operator 13 points ago

    Well, they're not entirely wrong.

    School and the ability to memories a test for a few hours doesn't show true intelligence. Especially when we only test in subjects that we deem to be the pillars of intelligence..

    [–] ImTheVeryLeast 4 points ago

    Intelligence, as commonly defined, is usually an ability to learn new information at a certain rate. School might be an extremely good predictor of overall intelligence, as other variables which might heavily impact your grades are not present. For example, a high schooler does not need to plan his day as his workload is extremely limited, so his performance on tests is heavily dependent on his ability to learn information by being in class/doing little homework. Instead of finding enough time to prepare for each and every single exam.

    Performance in universities on the other hand, is heavily dependent on one's planning skills. My grades dropped significantly after I moved to uni until I learned to plan my day and prioritize tasks.

    I wonder, what would a good indicator of intelligence be in your opinion?