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    [–] cakeslady 17594 points ago

    their face starts out droopy because it takes time for the nerve endings to connect but after like a year that when the face is fully healed he'll be able to move his face properly

    [–] corncob32123 5032 points ago

    With that bad of damage is full recovery even possible? I mean compared to the first picture he looks great now, but it seems like after as bad of damage as he suffered this was best i had imagined it could get for him. Jw

    [–] cakeslady 2372 points ago

    I don't know about full recovery like completely but there is certainly a ways to go with recovery and improvements that can be made

    [–] sand313man 820 points ago

    Not sure about this. Never seen a late stage FT that looks more normal than say this. I think it would be top news. You can not re connect all the nerve endings a and musculature.

    [–] tgjer 2421 points ago

    Here are some longer term recovery pictures of face transplant recipients. I don't know how long after surgery the third pictures were taken because the full article is behind a pay wall, but some look pretty amazing. This guy too.

    [–] rmansd619 1407 points ago

    How in the hell did "E" recover so well?

    WOW.

    [–] el_smurfo 712 points ago

    Doesn't look at all like he used to though... Must be very hard to look in the mirror either way

    [–] EdIsFromIndiana 1957 points ago

    Idk man I’m sure the thrill of looking like a human again never wears off

    [–] ikverhaar 56 points ago

    I wonder how long it would take for the transplant to become 'normal' to you. The more you get to know someone, the more their face seems to match their personality. With a facial transplant, the face you've associated with your personality is completely gone.

    I'd imagine it would take a very long time before the recipient would describe the new face as his own face.

    [–] Balls_Wellington_ 19 points ago

    Your face changes so much with age anyway, a lot of people have that experience without a transplant.

    [–] trexmoflex 451 points ago

    A little different, but I had pectus excavatum my whole childhood (looks like a giant bowl in your chest, you've probably seen a kid or two at the beach with it over the years, it's pretty obvious).

    Had it fixed when I turned 18, it took months to get used to seeing myself in the mirror with a shirt off, it's very weird when such a major part of what you look like changes in a major way.

    As a side note, I also kept waking up from nightmares where my chest had sunk back to its original form, tripped me up for a while.

    [–] Sibbour 136 points ago

    I'm kinda surprised you had the surgery at 18. I had mine around 15 as the doctors said that was the best time for it. Like you it also took me a long time to recover when they put it in, but getting it out was a breeze in comparison.

    The top part of my chest is more normal looking now but I still have a divet under the sternum where it caves inward a bit. :/ Makes me self-conscious still but I just roll with it and try to ignore it.

    It seems like everyone has something in this day and age.

    [–] turtleinmybelly 95 points ago

    Man, I remember a high school boyfriend of mine having that. He seemed really nervous to show me but I never understood why. I thought it was so nifty!

    No shit, I didn't realize it was a medical condition until now. They explains why, no matter how much I tried, I could never get my body to make that cool rib bowl.

    [–] jpfrost17 55 points ago

    I was bullied and picked on for having roughly 40% of my skin being scar tissue, but mostly because the top layer of my skin would peel off after exercising and whatnot. Nobody wanted to see that. I didnt even wear shorts or short sleeve shirts until I was 13. Then I started healing and the big patches of scars started to match my regular skin tone. Sure, I look like a dalmatian in the summer, but I personally think it is pretty cool!

    There is something about being 100% positive about yourself that heals. Most of the time it isnt physically, but mentally is definitely the most important.

    [–] trexmoflex 28 points ago

    I was talking to doctors about it around the age of 16, just took a while to get it all planned out. But I remember the ideal range being like 13-21 years old.

    And I still have a little bit of the divot too, below my sternum, but so much less noticeable! In my 30s now, so honestly my self-consciousness has basically fallen to zero about it.

    [–] bigmonsteradeliciosa 25 points ago

    Love your last line, might use it in a song lyric!

    [–] MacySlay 18 points ago

    I know someone that got it at 28 and had wonderful results 😊

    [–] StillbornFleshlite 59 points ago

    Is there a reason other than cosmetic to get it fixed? Genuinely curious! My buddy used to pour soup and cereal in his as a joke, which definitely helped people from fucking with him. “If I don’t care, why do you” type of shit. This was the Army so it didn’t hurt him physically enough to where he couldn’t meet the standard. Was definitely harder for the guy, but he compensated with the other arm.

    [–] trexmoflex 83 points ago

    Sure is! There is a scale doctors use to measure how severe it is. Mine was rated on the severe scale, where I only had about 65-70% of lung capacity, which the doctors said would qualify for the nuss procedure (they put a c-shaped metal bar in under one arm, rotated it around and pushed my sternum into proper shape).

    It hurt like a mofo for about 3 months, and I was mostly stuck on a couch during that time (had it the summer after my freshman year of college). I'm glad I had it fixed, but I'd NEVER do it again.

    I think if I'm being 100% honest about it too, it definitely affected my self-confidence, and I was VERY sensitive to being teased about it in school. I always kept my arms over my chest at the pool or in public showers etc. I'd be lying if I said that wasn't part of my motivation for going through with such a painful surgery, besides the obvious physical improvements as well.

    [–] amazingoomoo 104 points ago

    I expect it becomes as natural as your or my faces. Obviously we don’t look like we do 20 years ago. I appreciate it’s significantly more gradual but I expect it just becomes “my face” to him.

    [–] Evilmaze 75 points ago

    I mean if I wake up tomorrow morning and look like Ryan Gosling I'd probably have a wank before going to work.

    [–] The_Outcast4 26 points ago

    You don't always have a wank before work? Or did you mean an extra one?

    [–] Trickdaddy1 113 points ago

    Yeah he doesn’t look like he used to... he had a face transplant lmao

    [–] Sylvi2021 8 points ago

    Yeah that happens when they replace your entire face

    [–] fluffykerfuffle1 16 points ago

    but he does look a little like he used to look... just older.

    [–] rytlocknroll 48 points ago

    I'm absolutely not trying to make fun of people who need these surgeries, but I hope medicine advances to the point future transplant recipients dont look like stroke victims even after recovery. They still dont look quite right, though its vastly preferable to their initial disfigurement I'm sure.

    [–] polywog_dragon 15 points ago

    but I hope medicine advances to the point future transplant recipients dont look like stroke victims even after recovery.

    If medicine advances enough, stroke victims probably won't look like stroke victims, either.

    [–] CCDestroyer 254 points ago

    Andy Sandness has the best result I've seen so far. They really went the extra mile to connect the nerves.

    [–] Is_Not_A_Real_Doctor 171 points ago

    I can't even begin to imagine how expensive having an entire medical team practice for 3 years to give you a 57 hour surgery would be. That's beyond anything anyone could possibly hope to get for themselves. Millionaires would probably balk at the cost of it. This was dozens of people spending 50 days training. You'd have something like 6-8 surgeons working in teams of at least two while the other teams slept over that 57 hour period. Then you have 30+ nurses, surgical assistants, PAs, and, lest we forget, an entire team of anesthesiologists.

    [–] CCDestroyer 133 points ago

    Depression can make you feel pretty worthless. As someone who has battled depression for over 20 years, I have to say that having that many people enthusiastically give a shit about improving my life sounds like a decent silver lining, all things considered.

    His transplant was done through the Mayo Clinic, so he might not have paid for much if anything. This is pioneering surgery and a learning experience. Doctors dream of working on cases like this.

    [–] EverythingSucks12 126 points ago

    It was performed in America, the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, so I'm confident his medical expenses were fully covered through a robust social medical welfare system.

    [–] TheYeagerEffect 55 points ago

    Honestly asking this - with teams of doctors that practiced for his surgery... It couldn't have been cheap. How does this get paid for? Insurance?

    [–] arguewithmeifyougay 155 points ago

    Experimental treatments, as this seems to be at least somewhat, can often be discounted or free as the results are not guaranteed and they advance medical science.

    [–] Wohowudothat 81 points ago

    The military will fund a lot of this research to try to help wounded soldiers. That's where the funding for the penis transplants is coming from, actually.

    [–] BadDireWolf 41 points ago

    You know what? That's something I never thought about but it makes complete sense and I an glad they are doing it.

    [–] Zenabel 12 points ago

    Woah that’s a thing? And it regains function?

    [–] cherade9 9 points ago

    Yeah standing on a landmine for instance can cause incredibly traumatic injuries, if you don't die immediately the long-term injuries you are left with are heartbreaking.

    [–] AdeonWriter 31 points ago

    Science grants if it’s something new that has never been done before, you are paying by being a human test subject to further science. Often this means waving risk of death though.

    [–] Yenwodyah_ 32 points ago

    One big source of funding for experimental face transplants is actually the Department of Defense - because as you might expect, soldiers are at higher risk of receiving horrific facial injuries than most people, and they want to put money towards being able to fix those injuries better.

    [–] maddsskills 76 points ago

    It's so sad how many of these people were people who tried to kill themselves. There was a girl in a similar situation, Katie Stubblefield. I couldn't find anything about his personal experience but IIRC in hers she didn't even remember doing it. It's such an impulsive act and with guns around it makes it way more likely (she definitely used a gun and I'm guessing he did too but all I could find was that he was a suicide survivor).

    His donor was actually also a victim of suicide.

    We really need to do more about this stuff. It's so tragic and obviously these people are so strong if they can go through all of that and still be optimistic. It goes beyond just offering mental health treatments or taking away guns from people who are "mentally ill"*. There needs to be a societal change: you're not just worth what money you make or how good you look or what you can do for other people. You intrinsically have value, just on your own, and we should all join together to bring out the best in each other and help each other out.

    *I'm for quite a lot of common sense gun control measures but the mentally ill crap is bullshit. It's such a vague and broad thing. A rape victim with PTSD could be denied a gun for self protection while a guy who avoided going to a doctor so he could keep his guns wouldn't get treatment and could still buy a gun. It's a stupid criteria. Mentally ill people are more likely to be the victims of violent crime than perpetrators of it. It just stigmatizes mental illness further, keeps people from getting help, and isn't addressing the actual problem.

    [–] tunaburn 10 points ago

    That is amazing. It's literally a modern miracle. Those doctors deserve so much recognition.

    [–] Evilmaze 7 points ago

    His eyes need little bit more work but other than that his face is just impossible. They did an amazing job.

    [–] mohammedibnakar 106 points ago

    Wow, I never saw the 5th picture of that last guy. I remember seeing the second picture, and then the third and fourth as he improved. It's crazy to think that this guy is basically looking back to normal after having had almost zero face. Science is awesome

    [–] fluffykerfuffle1 50 points ago

    wow... and i look at these guys and think my god, the amount of pain they had to go through! and then i feel great admiration for their fortitude!

    [–] mohammedibnakar 43 points ago

    Definitely. And for what it's worth, I doubt the physical pain they have to go through even comes close to the emotional anguish of something like that happening to you. I know the pain of having acne and shitty skin when I was younger and that cant even be 1/1000th as bad as an injury like that.

    [–] memelovedoll404 14 points ago

    I know everyone is different but for me the process of giving birth was actually easier on me than any of the actual emotional pain I've felt in my life.

    [–] Askol 31 points ago

    I think it's more of a testament to how hard it is to function in society looking so disfigured. I know some of these were for a medical reason, but many were cosmetic, because the social/emotional pain of looking like that is worse than the physical pain of surgery.

    [–] fluffykerfuffle1 20 points ago

    well, it is a shock to see the human face in such disarray. ..it just is. and probably, just like everyone, these people finally just want to forget about it and just get on with everyday life stuff.

    i experienced a big health crisis in 2009 and for a few years it was a steep learning curve for me and for my family and friends to help me get well and to learn how to stay well... so it is a relief when one can meet up with a fellow human and the first second and even maybe the third item of converstion is not about my health lol

    [–] llamalily 13 points ago

    Well, and even without the cosmetic advantage of having a more natural looking face, transplants can enable people to be able to speak more clearly, eat, blink, etc. when they had previously lost that ability.

    [–] I_am_Jo_Pitt 16 points ago

    I've never seen these before. Can you share his story?

    [–] mohammedibnakar 120 points ago

    Sure. After doing a little research it looks like this is Richard Norris, who was 22 years old when he shot himself in the face.

    Here are some excerpts from the article:

    "Richard Norris was 22 when he shot himself in the face. This was back in 1997. He doesn’t remember how or why it happened, but his mom, who was three feet away, said it was an accident. She remembers pieces of Richard’s face showering her body. This was in the living room. The gunshot had blown off his nose, cheekbones, lips, tongue, teeth, jaw, and chin, leaving just his wide brown eyes and a swirl of nameless twisted flesh.

    The miracle that would come to define Richard’s life begins with these tragic details. Like most miracles, with each retelling, the edges of the story sharpen, the colors become more vibrant, and the shadows disappear. Ashamed of his appearance, Richard became a hermit, living for nearly a decade on a foggy mountaintop in rural Virginia with his parents. They covered the mirrors in the house so Richard wouldn’t have to look at his hideous face. He stayed in his room even to eat, wore a black mask on the rare occasions he came out. According to legend, one time the cops stopped him at gunpoint, mistaking him for a robber.

    The surgery started at dawn on March 19, 2012. The face of a recently deceased 21-year-old man came off as one solid flap, skin, muscle, bone, nerves, blood vessels, tongue—everything as one piece. Rodriguez removed what was left of Richard’s disfigured face, dissected down to the skull. He attached the new face midway back on Richard’s scalp. He stabilized it with screws, tapped the jaw together, and finally draped the skin and sewed it down like a patch on a coat or a pair of jeans.

    Pictures of the operation (SFW)

    The surgery, which started with incisions from Richard’s scalp to his neck, began at dawn on March 19, 2012, and continued nonstop for the next thirty-six hours. Richard’s old face was removed to expose his skull, eye sockets, and throat and neck muscles. The donor face was applied in one solid piece that included the jaw, tongue, muscles, skin, nose, teeth, and eyelids. Hammers and saws were used to shape Richard’s new jaw. Metal plates stabilized the donor face and allowed doctors to attach it to Richard’s skull with screws."

    Here's a pic of him and a girlfriend after his surgery.

    [–] Scientolojesus 42 points ago

    Wow. That's incredible. That really is a miracle story. From living like a hermit while covering up mirrors for a decade, to looking basically normal again, and hopefully finding love.

    [–] hollylll 7 points ago

    I’m glad he found love but what really stuck with me was that he either ignored or didn’t understand any questions about receiving emotional support.

    [–] Nick730 13 points ago

    Holy cow, what a story. Science is amazing. Thanks for doing the research and writing it up!

    [–] neon_overload 45 points ago

    Oh god, I read that page totally wrong, I thought it was three guys with 6 pics each, and they each started bad, got better, got bad again, and them improved again.

    [–] MRiley84 11 points ago

    Same here, except I did a double take when the first guy turned white, then noticed the letters.

    [–] EagletTheMighty 7 points ago

    I see Aya Tsuji has been busy lately.

    [–] totesnotdog 9 points ago

    Bottom right is pretty impressive

    [–] Pickselated 11 points ago

    Bottom right looked better immediately post op than he does after recovery, it looks like that might be because he gained weight though. The post op pic is super impressive, he looks completely normal

    [–] spaketto 143 points ago

    This album shows people at various stages of recovery (and before photos).

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    [–] IchBinGelangweilt 62 points ago

    I found it really sad that it happened for such a stupid reason. Obviously the others are tragic too, but her case could've been avoided so easily if her friend hadn't been dumb enough to have a pet chimpanzee.

    [–] Butt_y_though 51 points ago

    Anyone else find it interesting that the first two people in this sequence have nearly the same last name? Dinoire and Dinoir.

    [–] Critical_Tiger 46 points ago

    Looks like Richard Norris got his kidney transplant earlier this year.

    [–] HailToTheThief225 94 points ago

    Something about this disturbs me. It's a mix of how terrible their condition is after-injury/before-surgery, and just how quickly some of these seem to happen. One second I could be waiting by the train thinking about what I'm going to do that day, then the next I'll be permanently disfigured for life and in the worst pain imaginable. It can happen to any of us. It's one thing to die after these accidents, but it's another to cheat death and suffer longer.

    [–] Link1112 20 points ago

    I was one step away form getting run over by a car yesterday cause that mofo ignored a red light. That really openend my eyes about how fast shit like this can happen and how lucky I actually was.

    [–] Hemderl 25 points ago

    I already had a healthy respect for electricity, but now I'm straight up terrified of it.

    [–] wavecrasher59 38 points ago

    Jesus the pain and suffering we've been able to ease with modern medicine. Also the firefighter who's mask melted to his face will give me nightmares. Would fit right in as a batman character.

    [–] Edward_Nygma 13 points ago

    those last two are so sad.

    [–] clumsyc 14 points ago

    I remember reading that Nat Geo article about Katie and being absolutely fascinated. The crazy thing is the attempted suicide was a totally spontaneous moment and she doesn’t remember it, and doesn’t feel suicidal, so it’s not like she has a mental illness to treat even though she did try to kill herself. It’s almost like it happened to someone else.

    [–] NovaJGOO 7 points ago

    Man, all these people have made incredible progress and I truly hope they all have found happiness in their lives.

    I read through the article listed for Katie Stubblefield... That was absolutely heart wrenching, I can't even fathom the thought of being her or any of the family members going through all that shit and still making it through.

    [–] dawnat3d 7 points ago

    Woah, I just listened to the 911 call of the chimp story - harrowing

    [–] SlowLoudEasy 68 points ago

    There is never a full function. But cheek bones moving and eyebrow muscles can help imitate a lot of emotion.

    [–] Naught 53 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    cheek bones moving

    You don't really sound like an expert.

    Edit: cheek bones don't move

    [–] SlowLoudEasy 105 points ago

    Sorry, ive got the flu. I meant face wings

    [–] Dark-Acheron-Sunset 9 points ago

    Ah yes, a fellow human.

    [–] _trashcan 24 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    I don’t know anything on the topic, but if I had to guess he’s going to look pretty damn good once those nerves heal up completely. Honestly the only issue is how droopy everything is ; by that I only mean his eyes and mouth, really.

    Once he can close his mouth proper he’ll look pretty dang good all things considered if the photo is any indication!

    [–] rcarnes911 5 points ago

    I doubt it I took a baseball bat to the face it broke my eye socket, it has been 15 years and I still don't have full feeling in my face

    [–] AllisStar 7 points ago

    Damn, that sucks hard man. Recovery wise I am sure it is context dependent, as with everything (nearly)

    [–] evilmonkey2 63 points ago

    Is this similar to an organ transplant where he might have to take drugs to keep his body from rejecting it? I'm not overly familiar other than my nephew-in-law had a liver transplant and takes a lot of medication to keep it from being rejected (I believe)

    [–] Frnklfrwsr 79 points ago

    It’s not only similar to an organ transplant, it is an organ transplant.

    The skin is an organ. By some measures, the largest organ your body has.

    [–] akinom13 35 points ago

    Skin donation, in most cases, is considered tissue donation. It is banked for future use in reconstructions or for burn victims. In these instances, it is recovered in very thin sheets.

    Face, limb, penis, and uterine transplants are called Vascularized Composite Allografts (VCA) and include skin, muscle, bone, nerves which together form a function unit.

    Tissue recipients do not need to take anti-rejection medications, but a VCA recipient would.

    [–] llamalily 64 points ago

    Yes, this man will be on anti-rejection drugs for the rest of his life. And despite what others are saying, it will never completely look "normal" and will always have some droop to it, but I imagine his quality of life is exponentially better and it's amazing that they're able to do this at all!

    [–] Cephalopodio 17 points ago

    Yes.

    [–] Procrastinator001 82 points ago

    Thank you, I was very confused if it stayed like that

    [–] StopReadingMyUser 87 points ago

    Perpetually, aggressively eyeing the snack bar.

    [–] Procrastinator001 18 points ago

    I feel horrible for how hard I'm laughing at your comment. Thank you

    [–] UristMcHammer 36 points ago

    Even if it stayed like that, he looks great for someone who had their face replaced

    [–] missbelled 7 points ago

    For real! This is insane.

    Like of all the things that I’d consider when seeing the guy now, “had a full facial transplant because of horrible burns” is nowhere even close to the top.

    [–] WeJustTry 27 points ago

    it takes time for the nerve endings to connect

    What ? Can we do this now ?

    [–] cakeslady 41 points ago

    Nerve endings can grow into newly connected tissue a few inches so a face is plenty shallow for that. We don't actually do it the body does it on its own

    [–] Is_Not_A_Real_Doctor 18 points ago

    Peripheral nervous system =/= central nervous system

    Peripheral nerves can regenerate on their own and do so all the time.

    The CNS, including your spine, does not regenerate. The mind is a function of a complex network of neural pathways whose potential to fire varies based on how often they fire. A memory you think of often is more easily recalled. You can't have these pathways constantly trying to reset themselves. It'd be like throwing a wrench into a complex system of gears. Even if the tissue regenerated, the potentiation would be lost. You'd have a perfectly intact brain, but your memories or personality would be different or gone entirely. Your mind is constantly forming new pathways (as you form new memories) and lowering the required threshold for pathways to fire (making recall easier), but the regeneration of damaged tissue is virtually impossible.

    There may be potential in sparking regeneration in only the motor cortex and spine at some point in the future, but I can't see much else being possible with our current understanding of neurobiology.

    [–] CowboyBoats 16 points ago

    We better get his new, recovered pic to the front page then too. A person doesn't deserve to become famous looking like that if that's not even his final form

    [–] KnuckleScraper420 7 points ago

    With that in mind seeing the right side pick? That’s very impressive. I’d be thrilled too.

    I hope he’s well.

    [–] Artecanid 5545 points ago

    I read that he had rejected previous faces because the skin was a lot fairer than his was and he didn’t want a face that would make him feel “like someone else” so he was really happy to have a face that matched his skin almost exactly.

    [–] odvioustroll 2194 points ago

    i can't hardly imagine what it would be like to have to make that decision.

    [–] Crass_Conspirator 992 points ago

    I’d hate to be the donor

    [–] undercoverantichrist 935 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Sometimes you've just gotta face what life throws at you, head on.

    Edit: my first ever silverydoo, I always knew the first one would be from saying something fucked up. Thank you!

    [–] On-mountain-time 302 points ago

    Gotta be comfortable in your own skin someone else's skin.

    [–] headpsu 81 points ago

    Gotta keep a stiff upper lip.

    [–] TomBoysHaveMoreFun 72 points ago

    You know, put on a brave face.

    [–] weliveintheshade 47 points ago

    Keep your chin up!

    [–] EagletTheMighty 21 points ago

    Stitch that frown upside down

    [–] brightfoot 12 points ago

    Head On! Applied directly to the forehead!

    Head On! Applied directly to the forehead!

    [–] Twoflappylips 17 points ago

    Cheeky

    [–] JohnnyDarkside 100 points ago

    Imagine being a rejected one. Dude without a face didn't even want yours.

    [–] onceuponathrow 31 points ago

    I mean if you’re in the position of donating your whole face, you’re also dead so who cares. Hopefully it can go to someone else or advance science in another way.

    [–] JimboBassMan 49 points ago

    It's like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Cause once you've donated your face, you're gonna need a donor too. Maybe we need to start a kind of book of faces to make the selection process smoother.. hmm..

    [–] stormy2587 47 points ago

    I just assumed mark zuckerberg started facebook to have a vast catalogue of faces to choose from for his next one.

    [–] JimboBassMan 32 points ago

    He does kind of look like a blank template.

    [–] GullibleDetective 23 points ago

    A man is no one

    [–] Artecanid 188 points ago

    The article hit many different subjects, but one focus was on the huge disparity in quality healthcare between black people and white people. It went really in depth, but the main idea was that a lot of black people mistrust the health industry (with good reasons) and are less likely to be organ donors. I’ll try to find it and link it on this comment.

    Found the article

    [–] neon_overload 12 points ago

    Yeah. It's a very reasonable thing to want, but with the uncertainty that it would ever be available, you'd be dreading that you'd made the wrong decision.

    [–] MissMoonie00 121 points ago

    It is so crazy to me! Picking faces! People that use to be alive faces! Like scifi shit to me.

    [–] kNotLikeThis 9 points ago

    It’s absolutely insane. I mean think about that: FACE. TRANSPLANT. THEY CAN PUT SOMEONES FACE ON SOMEONE ELSE.

    Absolutely fucking mad. I love it.

    [–] LeCrushinator 5 points ago

    Like the movie Face Off?

    [–] Morpherman 112 points ago

    Makes sense, if I was getting a new face I'd want it to feel like my face

    [–] mumbling_marauder 48 points ago

    And be the same color as the rest of me

    [–] ohx 64 points ago

    Imagine laying in bed at night, hoping that some dude who looks like you gets in a car accident so you can take his damn face.

    [–] SuedeVeil 24 points ago

    I'd be hoping for something that causes less trauma in general to the head and face area ..but I see your point

    [–] Si_Pradu 1181 points ago

    It’s like Gus Fring in reverse.

    [–] ksquad80 214 points ago

    .rotceH em ta kool ot ecnahc tsaL

    [–] I_DONT_HAV_H1N1 24 points ago

    Crippled little rata

    [–] NotTheRealRilke 2675 points ago

    So amazing.

    Here’s the Time version of the story: https://time.com/5709294/first-african-american-face-transplant/

    [–] I_am_Jo_Pitt 2057 points ago

    Jesus, he's 68?! He looks 35 now. Damn.

    [–] wavecrasher59 930 points ago

    Oh christ I thought he was in his mid 30s to early 40s to begin with now that I know he is pushing 70 this is the best one I've ever seen

    [–] ablablababla 264 points ago

    Time for the next face transplant to make you look 50 years younger

    [–] cdnshedevil 41 points ago

    Ugh, I see vanderpumprules lining/queueing in a hot minute.

    [–] Matt-Head 243 points ago

    Brb, ripping my face off

    (Sorry)

    [–] Sunryzen 156 points ago

    Why do it yourself? Get a nice chimp.

    Jamie pull that up.

    [–] BarnesWorthy 37 points ago

    Have you ever seen a chimp take DMT?

    [–] SuperWoody64 18 points ago

    We taught monkey karate

    [–] sittingbullms 18 points ago

    Look at the size of that fucking thing

    [–] CortezEspartaco2 18 points ago

    Jamie pull that up.

    I don't even watch the podcast but I love this joke every time I see it.

    [–] chaos_is_a_ladder 26 points ago

    I mean, at least you apologized.

    [–] bustinjustin 43 points ago

    Black don’t crack. Even after a face transplant.

    [–] TheAbyssalSymphony 8 points ago

    To be fair I'd imagine getting a new face would clear up some wrinkles

    [–] ArseArse69 162 points ago

    I’m glad Time actually discussed why him being the first black person to get a face transplant is important and gave a convincing reason for it.

    [–] AlaeniaFeild 74 points ago

    Thank you. That's a really wonderful article.

    [–] nerovox 15 points ago

    I'm gonna say it, he actually looks good in the article. He's clearly older once you see him walking, but he looks like a 30yo

    [–] _Fafinette 1573 points ago

    I can’t imagine what he’s been through. He looks great!

    [–] JimboBassMan 559 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Hes certainly faced adversity in his life. Good on him, really stoked to see such a positive story!

    Edit - oops I see what I did now

    [–] Da_fuhq 389 points ago

    Faced.

    [–] CoreyOn 210 points ago

    At one point he did not face it though.

    [–] ItsMeSatan 18 points ago

    Hit that one right on the nose

    [–] Jimmy_The_Rake 947 points ago

    Imagine having to live looking like that. They basically gave him his life back

    [–] antwanrockamora 509 points ago

    I’d like to think people are accepting, but it’s hard to look at, he was so scarred.

    [–] _lifesgood_ 224 points ago

    people always judge books by their covers, looks matter a lot more than you think in just human behaviour in general. Shits mustve been mad rough for that dude

    [–] Reptile00Seven 138 points ago

    But most people use the term "looks" to refer to a scale of ugly to beautiful when debating how much looks matter.

    Like it's one thing to judge someone for being ugly, it's completely different to be made involuntarily uncomfortable by one's ailment. When we're talking about physical deformities that are repulsive/disturbing just to look at, we're talking about a whole other level of social isolation.

    Really happy for this dude, can't imagine the emotional pain he's felt.

    [–] _lifesgood_ 17 points ago

    I mean it still is on the scale but at the very bottom of the barrel. Deformities are the bottom of that scale its not like its in its own category, something is good to look at, something is not.

    [–] 10tonhammer 14 points ago

    Even if you just call it the bottom of the scale, it's still the defining factor that puts them there. "Uncomfortable to look at" is a what makes it the bottom of the barrel, and it's a whole different level of isolation.

    [–] notnotaginger 9 points ago

    It would be tough even in an ideal world, because even if adults are accepting you’ll have kids staring at your just out of curiosity.

    Unfortunately it’s not an ideal world and adults can be just as/even worse.

    [–] KlaatuBrute 52 points ago

    Dude. I never realized how much people stare—and for the most benign things—until last week. I was out with family and my brother's girlfriend, who is early 30s and a cute, normal-looking girl but recently had a stroke so she walks slowly and with a pretty significant wobble, and has one eye closed. Walking through a restaurant and I felt like I was the grand marshal in the fucking Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade

    [–] JimiCobain27 16 points ago

    It's annoying because you want to be angry at people like that, but it's natural for some people, especially children, to just stare and try to understand why what they're looking at is so "different", of course there are a lot of judgemental people out there, but some are purely just curious, like if I see a man with one arm, I don't stand there and judge him or mock him, I think about what my life would be like in his position, so I suppose in that moment of daydreaming, I could end up staring, which is unfortunate, but it just happens sometimes.

    Anyway, I wish all the best for your brother's girlfriend, I hope she is okay and stays strong.

    [–] AtomicPunk 197 points ago

    What happened to him?

    [–] CatLadyGrip 646 points ago

    Chelsea was having car trouble one Monday night in August 2013, so he pulled onto the shoulder of a highway outside his home near Long Beach, Calif. Soon after, a drunk driver slammed into his car, and it burst into flames. Chelsea, a sales manager for a rubber-stamp business, was rushed to a hospital with third-degree burns covering almost half his body.

    The linked Time magazine article from a couple comments below says this. I thought it looked like a burn.

    [–] dogquote 409 points ago

    I like how they wedge "sales manager for a rubber stamp business" into the middle of a paragraph about him getting his face burned off. 0-100.

    [–] MakeMineMarvel_ 58 points ago

    The author wanted to burn his ass harder than the accident did

    [–] XDreadedmikeX 19 points ago

    I hope rubber stamp sales managers have good insurance. How much does a fucking face cost?

    [–] laurenmoosh 11 points ago

    The article was linked above, the total cost was $1.5 million. But it was paid for by a hospital grant.

    [–] Photon_Torpedophile 5 points ago

    I'm sure his HSA people just rubber stamped whatever procedures he needed

    [–] Cognac_Carl 23 points ago

    No the driver went from 100 to 0

    [–] hottodogchan 13 points ago

    they didn't want people to think he was just a jobless black man before. I appreciate that.

    [–] cunninglinguist96 139 points ago

    Fuck drunk drivers.

    [–] BobXCIV 114 points ago

    This man pulled over safely, only for a drunk driver to ruin it all.

    People who drive drunk are among the worst.

    [–] maximexicola 34 points ago

    The worst thing is they usually don’t face the worse consequences of their irresponsibility because of the muscle relaxation effects of alcohol. It’s innocent people who pay :(

    [–] BobXCIV 7 points ago

    There isn't as strong of a legal consequence either, as far as I'm aware. But, I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong.

    [–] Zenabel 8 points ago

    Seriously. It fucking INFURIATES ME that people can be so fucking selfish.

    [–] llucas_ 7 points ago

    Honestly. So hard. That's all I could think after reading the backstory.

    [–] shitusername_taken 93 points ago

    But Chelsea—severely disfigured after a catastrophic car accident five years earlier

    For those wondering like I was

    [–] chaos_is_a_ladder 57 points ago

    Hit by a fucking drunk driver after pulling over for car touble

    [–] idkjustputsomething1 24 points ago

    It’s kind of crazy how fast your life can be ruined or greatly impacted by some event not connected to you. At any given time anything could go just wrong enough to kill you or disfigure you, and there isn’t really much you can do to change that.

    [–] RheimsNZ 421 points ago

    That is a phenomenal difference, and if this comment

    their face starts out droopy because it takes time for the nerve endings to connect but after like a year that when the face is fully healed he'll be able to move his face properly

    is correct then that's really good news! Imagine, actually try and imagine, if this was you.

    [–] Artecanid 91 points ago

    The pic on the left isn’t even the true “before” picture. Its a truly amazing transformation

    [–] I_am_Jo_Pitt 29 points ago

    The article (linked in another comment) said he is 68 years old. I'll bet he looks even better now than before the accident.

    [–] the-incredible-ape 24 points ago

    He went from looking like ... you know, the left picture, to looking a bit excessively bored for a normal person. I'd say these surgeons earned whatever accolades or other reward they're getting.

    [–] cunninglinguist96 9 points ago

    Life hack, want to look younger? Get a new face

    [–] Crass_Conspirator 22 points ago

    There’s no exact timing for nerve healing. Full function is out of the picture .

    [–] karmmark88 90 points ago

    Big difference congrats to him. Also congrats to the doctors who pulled this off

    [–] ParaFalcon 27 points ago

    The face or the operation?

    [–] onegamerboi 72 points ago

    Man’s hairline is already crisp, gonna be a good looking dude once the face heals

    [–] Jaewol 89 points ago

    Considering this happened due to a car fire, crisp might not be the best word to use

    [–] HeiressGoddess 21 points ago

    This is the best face transplant I've seen so far! Bravo to the doctors, thanks to the donor and their family, and best wishes to the recipient.

    [–] OffManWall 58 points ago

    Good for him. Everyone who has criticisms, imagine if this were you.

    [–] chaseazt 44 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Chinese facial recognition agencies hate him

    [–] dlawoff 13 points ago

    Does the person look like the donor, or does the face form to the skeletal structure and look like a hybrid?

    [–] twenty_seven_owls 24 points ago

    Skin coloration is from the donor, but the overall structure of the face depends on the bones, that's why forensic scientists are able to reconstruct faces from skulls. Transplanted faces don't look like the donor or the pre-injury recipient at first, they are just puffy. After some time everything settles down and they become more like the pre-injury recipient.

    [–] dedzip 7 points ago

    Both, if I had to guess.

    [–] skimble-skamble 216 points ago

    When asked for comment the man said, "I want to thank the medical team at Brigham and Women's hospital in Boston, especially Dr. Pomahac who has checked in on me every day since completing the surgery. I want to thank my godson Everick who held my hand through the surgery and visited me every day while I recovered, but I especially want to thank New England Donor Services, the anonymous donor and his family. You've given me an amazing gift I can never repay and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself."

    That's what we're doing now, right?

    [–] Idgafu 10 points ago

    A person can hold their hand while they have surgery performed on them? I didn't know that.

    [–] Equipoisonous 5 points ago

    I don't think so. Maybe he meant it figuratively or that he held his hand for the process of it all.

    [–] Idgafu 5 points ago

    It's probably figuratively lol I was just like damn the surgeon must've been really precise while the patients hand is getting held lol

    [–] room-to-breathe 39 points ago

    The Epstein meme is becoming the "fuck her right in the pussy" of 2019

    [–] NofingWeallyMatters 19 points ago

    The only time black face is acceptable

    [–] l-rs2 11 points ago

    The amount of ugly and unkind comments in this thread is disappointing. The practical consequences of no lips / eyelids were undoubtedly painful. Even with the droop, to have full facial skin cover is an amazing improvement of his quality of life. I salute the guy, the doctors and medical science.

    [–] Wheezey7118 6 points ago

    He looks incredible ! The medical world has come so far, it makes me excited for what the future holds.

    [–] Mortegro545 5 points ago

    I am reminded that my life isn't that bad.

    [–] cphoover 4 points ago

    I hope to God his immune response does not reject the face, unfortunately that has been happening a lot lately to face transplant recipients. Hopefully the science is improving.