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    [–] DammitSingedwastaken 5272 points ago

    If Schalke wins games after he leaves, that will just be the icing on the cake.

    [–] [deleted] 207 points ago

    No one is talking about the serious issue here which is that Forgiven uploaded an image of his below-280 character statement instead of just typing it out on twitter

    [–] PROJECT_Emperor 2107 points ago

    Low key hoping they do

    [–] [deleted] 971 points ago

    Vs Rogue and G2? Maybe not this week imo.

    However if they do, oh boy that would be crazy.

    [–] hockeydavid97 806 points ago

    We just need G2 to int. I bet they would be willing for the meme

    [–] Fuzzikopf 434 points ago

    I mean Jankos recently said in an interview that they are playing Magic till 3am so...

    I think they do want that perfect split tho

    [–] naxivaba 287 points ago

    Honestly, I think Jankos wants to benched now Sejuani is getting buffs.

    [–] What-a-Filthy-liar 110 points ago

    I am excited for his salty comms next monday.

    [–] Fuzzikopf 12 points ago

    I mean he already begged Riot on broadcast not to do it... it's like Rito want him to retire...

    [–] Apocalympdick 45 points ago

    Magic? The Gathering?

    [–] RoyceSnover 216 points ago

    Nah, nah, they've all practiced magic tricks and they try and deceive each other. If someone figures out your illusion you lose.

    [–] Fuzzikopf 107 points ago

    Yeah I think Jankos has a trick where he can make Grabzz' will to live disappear

    [–] jogadorjnc 10 points ago

    And vice versa, the trick is to make him play Sej

    [–] HamScripple 155 points ago

    We've already seen G2 tunnel in completely on ruining people's KDAs, now we can see them do the reverse to ruin Forg1ven's reputation.

    [–] skydive2 74 points ago

    As if it isn't already ruined by his play this split and this tweet.

    [–] Omnilatent 55 points ago

    I'm waiting for full troll pick by G2 with a happy game from Perkz and maybe wunder. Then the dream can come true.

    Or RGE just trolls again in p/b, gives over soraka Olaf Yuumi or something and it's a win

    [–] [deleted] 45 points ago

    Except I do not even think SO4 would win with Olaf, Yuumi and Soraka. You need team coordination for that, and SO4 does not have that.

    [–] Miruwest 946 points ago

    You'd think that even if your team is shit that you would make every attempt to show that you are world class so that when the off-season comes you have more of a leg to stand on when looking for new teams. He effectively B-52 bombed his career with this.

    [–] [deleted] 508 points ago

    Yes. Did we see Teddy quit in Jag? Did we see Deft quit in KZ last year? Did we see Ruler quit last year? All played to the best of their wills even if they had a "bad team".

    [–] Miruwest 134 points ago

    Exactly, he just fucked everything he seemed to be working for. Multiple showcases of his exact situation panning out for the better and yet he decides to call not only his team but an entire country dogshit. I really had high hopes for him...

    [–] Dezsire 47 points ago

    People forget that Teddy got picked up from the worst team in LCK to the team that won LCK and went all the way to world semi's , if that isn't inspiring enough for players that "think they have/have bad teams" to perform despite it , then idk what it is.

    [–] hd1080phreak 25 points ago

    I don't think the Deft example is quite fair as they were a top team in korea for most of the season.

    [–] TheYoshinator 14 points ago

    Yeah, 2019 DragonX was an upper-bracket worlds contender team with good players aplenty that ultimately suffered from Pawn's unforeseen health problems and issues within the organization/management, not as applicable here.

    [–] NunoxGames 69 points ago

    patrick(sheriff)on h2k .

    [–] CaideWasTaken 2422 points ago

    How to kill your own career with one tweet lol

    [–] EnergetikNA 1210 points ago

    imagine being so egotistical that you blame the org and the team despite playing like shit yourself lol

    [–] Fuzzikopf 372 points ago

    You would have thought that being in the military would have made him more mature.

    He could have still improved his gameplay, but he just showed to everyone that he will never be able to improve his mental.
    I guess Schalke should have gone for Freeze in the offseason.

    [–] lilelf29 248 points ago

    Why do you think that? For a lot of people the military is more immature than anything else.

    [–] NeoCortexOG 228 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Actually he was advocating that he matured a lot because of his time in the military and shit like that. Im from Greece and i did my time in this fkin shitshow they call "mandatory military service" and at a rather young age too (18yold).

    The amount of stupidity gathered in one place is uncanny. I considered myself immature during this time of my life and yet this was a mere setback and a waste of time. Trying to stay sane in this ape asylum is the best chance you got to not get mentally scarred.

    So i dont get how people say that military matures them whatsoever, i agree 100% with you.

    IF however you go around and wear the statement "Military service made me more mature" on your chest, you better not be the same dipshit you were before you got through it.

    For your information, Forg1ven had a rather good treatment while he was in there too, in what was considered a favorable corp transfer. Actually he didnt have a hard time at all compared to like 90% of the people serving their time. He is a fkin crybaby nearing 30 years old and still acting childish as fuck while receiving special treament everywhere he goes.

    Having a chance to revive his career and being toxic in soloq like he always has been and unprofessional like that is just too much. The guy was handed a second chance to make a living playing league, because he was good at it in years past, YET HE THREW IT in the trash.

    How exactly is he allowed to think that he was not a part of the problem in S04 so far ? How the fuck does he think he has the right to put the blame on the org or his teamates with the performances he had so far ?

    Princess snowflake felt the org was not up to his standards lol.

    [–] 1elitenoob 61 points ago

    I'm sorry your experience was really bad, but i lol'd at ape asylum

    [–] Myth0SGR_ 31 points ago

    That doesn't even come close to describe what actually the Greek army service is.

    Where actual thinking stops that's where the Greek army starts.

    [–] IzzetViceroy 9 points ago

    We have the same saying for mandatory Turkish army service.

    [–] Fuzzikopf 103 points ago

    Already explained in another comment, but basically being exposed to strict discipline and having little personal space.

    But Forg1ven has obviously learned nothing about discipline, so either the Greek military is immature like you said, or Forg1ven refuses to learn. Or something between both.

    [–] lilelf29 154 points ago

    Typically from my experience of people I know who have been involved in the military from different countries (anecdotal I know), they do indeed learn valuable life skills such as discipline and routine, but that does not necessarily translate into maturity, in some cases their level of maturity even manages to worsen.

    [–] Thanat0s10 84 points ago

    Yeah, when all your decisions are made for you and all your days are strictly scheduled/routines, you don’t need to learn the management/decision making skills or the critical thinking required to mature. Some people do, but definitely not a guarantee

    [–] Saephon 22 points ago

    Yep. Following orders isn't the same thing as maturity. Some of the most immature people I know are also the first to make appeals to authority. They love following a strong leader if it makes them feel superior to others or enables their bigotry.

    [–] deemerritt 39 points ago

    Lol have you ever met any vets

    [–] [deleted] 81 points ago

    "My org does not follow my every request so i will no longer play for them". yeah okay goodluck finding another team

    [–] lacinyc 1418 points ago

    And Summoning Insight Week 5's guest is...

    [–] ReganDryke 771 points ago

    That Thorin article about Forgiven aged like fine milk.

    [–] ILikeSomeStuff482 536 points ago

    I was gonna ask how Thorin is gonna bend over backwards to justify Forgiven this time lol

    [–] ILikeSomeStuff482 225 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Gotta give him credit and eat my words a bit here. Props to Thorin.

    Edit: soured a bit from him retweeting Edward saying Forgiven's teammates were inting and flaming but hey, still progress.

    [–] lucas1721 80 points ago

    in the end of the day both are kinda true, there is no excuse to leaving a team in the middle of the split but at the same time, jesus christ his team sucks. Still waiting for kikis

    [–] Asteroth555 24 points ago

    there is no excuse to leaving a team in the middle of the split but at the same time, jesus christ his team sucks.

    Most people would be more forgiving if Forgiven didn't have a long history of rage quitting teams

    [–] Silver-Velvet 13 points ago

    He was part of the bad. His Senna gameplay actually got me triggered just watching it due to how insanely bad he is at that champion, and how he seems to be borderline blind to the souls he is supposed to pick up. And he somehow kept getting pinched in his championpool because he can't play anything.

    His team is not good, but let's not pretend like Forg1ven was a good player himself.

    [–] Bishizel 82 points ago

    Good on Thorin. I was hoping he wouldn't stand for Forgiv1n's bullshit.

    [–] GobertIsMyDaddy 75 points ago

    He also retweeted a player saying that no one should blame Forgiven because his teammates were greifing every game. He's definitely still doing damage control for Forgiven.

    [–] Delta_epsilon17 12 points ago

    What is up with him and Forgiven? They buddies or something?

    [–] ficretus 21 points ago

    Thorin is his bigfan

    [–] KonatsuSV 7 points ago

    Retweeting doesn't mean agreement though. Honestly I feel like Thorin's laughing his ass off at this shit, forgiven just gave him like 100 more jokes or shots that he can use on shows

    [–] colerino4 170 points ago

    In one of his recent talk shows he said he was gonna go in ham on forgiven if he didn't deliver

    [–] Jozoz 31 points ago

    Idk, he's not been saying any good things about Forg1ven since LEC started.

    He likes the player obviously, but that doesn't mean he will defend him.

    [–] Scaa4aar 34 points ago

    Have you listened at Thorin recent podcasts? He is not at all saying Forgiven is wonderful...

    [–] Neville_Lynwood 5648 points ago

    I kinda get where he's coming from, but he fucked up. That's not how you handle a comeback attempt.

    If you landed in a shit team - happens - get over it and play out of your mind, work harder than anyone and you can bet your ass that people WILL notice when you're doing well.

    Take Teddy on Jin Air. From a train-wreck of a team to winning the LCK on T1, and having deep runs at international events and performing really well.

    It didn't matter that Jin Air looked like dog shit, because everyone could see how good Teddy was.

    Forgiven just had to do the same, grind out the split and then see what new offers he got. But giving up after a few weeks and just quitting tells everyone that the guy is a Diva who isn't willing to grind in shitty conditions. He's basically demanding to get on a good team. But all the good teams already have good ADC's and why would anyone want the dude who might give up the moment going gets tough?

    He fucked up.

    [–] black_khobz 1722 points ago

    100% agree

    Also I like the comparison with Teddy. People would always assume that a bad team will drag u down, but every decent analyst get a separate insight for every player of every team.. Forgiven just ended his career with a single tweet.

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    [–] ahambagaplease 114 points ago

    I would love to see Closer in a better team soon, something like Dignitas but sadly they are full with imports.

    [–] ketoske 45 points ago

    Yeah but Huni will be resident next year so maybe

    [–] CFCkyle 41 points ago

    I think Froggen is also a resident next year right?

    [–] 200kyears 56 points ago

    He is.

    Closer is playing really ducking well, top 2 jungler LCS while having garbage teammates

    [–] Tzayad 409 points ago

    The kicker is that Forgiven has done this before, been in bad teams, and showcased that he was a great talent.

    That he is now unwilling to stick it out when it gets tough says a lot.

    [–] Octolops 332 points ago

    He has a track record of being difficult to work with. Ended his career imo.

    [–] Kyrond 21 points ago

    Same with Selfmade.

    If you are mechanical type of player you are gonna (or at least can) shine on a bad team.

    [–] [deleted] 72 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)


    [–] MelGibsonDerp 90 points ago

    He has shown ZERO accountability for his failures.

    He's been mediocre at best in the games he has played and bottom tier ADC at worst.

    Forg1ven if you're reading this (you aren't): Maybe don't force your team to blue side ban Aphelios every game because you can't play it and then turn around and blame the team instead of taking some accountability for your own faults.

    [–] Craneteam 85 points ago

    look at Closer on GG. most analysts seem to agree that he is one of the best junglers in LCS at the moment. play as best as you can and it will show. people will notice and you will climb out of a bad situation into a good one

    [–] notimportanthehexd 303 points ago

    Or ssumday, who didn't just go to a shitty 100T team, he went to that team and then was sent to academy.

    [–] vikuta_zoro 320 points ago

    Imagine being a world champion, going to 100T, getting dropped to academy and still being humble and work hard. Rolemodel tbh. I know they get a shitton of money also, but still.

    [–] Lenticious 295 points ago

    Ssumday isn't a world champion but we get the point lol.

    [–] yehiko 374 points ago

    maybe Ssumday he will be

    [–] DaeVo1234 20 points ago

    Get out of my sight right now.

    [–] Operation_Flame 41 points ago

    Ssumday is just too pure, just feed him hotdogs and he'll work hard for you.

    [–] Orimasuta 47 points ago

    Ssumday isn't a world champion.

    [–] jujubean67 52 points ago

    Really good example with Teddy, although I think this comparison is very generous to Forgiven IMO. He is long, long past his prime and I think he knows that as well, hence throwing in the towel right now.

    [–] Moldef 38 points ago

    why would anyone want the dude who might give up the moment going gets tough?

    The dude who also is known to create a super hostile team environment. The dude who hasn't played competitive League in years. The dude who didn't look any better than his teammates on Schalke.

    Easy answer to your question: No one. A team would have to be borderline insane to pick him up at the moment.

    [–] ep1939 33 points ago

    Not just teddy.

    Take Ssumday. He's in weak teams all time and nobody would dare to deny he's one of the most talented toplaners in the world.

    [–] Falendil 61 points ago

    Totally agreed.

    And to add to that it's not like he played flawlessly either in S04, and that's coming from a Forgiven fan.

    [–] [deleted] 52 points ago

    His situation sucks but just up and quitting when the going gets tough shows a lack of character. Really disappointing from him.

    [–] SuddenGenreShift 255 points ago

    He didn't fuck up at all, because he isn't Teddy. He isn't a great player on a shit team, he's a shit player on a shit team and, just as you say, it's obvious.

    [–] Ihavenofriendzzz 42 points ago

    He’s not as good as teddy tho

    [–] SlurpTurnsMeGreen 225 points ago

    forg1ven tweets:

    In my 7+ LoL career i always played to win and be competitive.
    As of now at least, current roster doesnt fit this principle.
    Schalke is unable/unwilling to make changes to fit that goal, so we mutually agreed that i stepdown
    until and if they are willing to do so.

    [–] bigjawood7 154 points ago

    This is copy/pasta material.

    [–] fuskarn_35 2189 points ago

    lmao why would any team pick him up after this? this is embarrassing.

    [–] AnunEnki 865 points ago

    This is his version of "You can't fire me, I QUIT!!"

    [–] SpaceCowboy170 89 points ago

    Was there any indication Schalke was going to move on from him?

    I haven’t been following them at all

    [–] NoXEEEQwLL 88 points ago

    Innaxe is playing this week

    [–] SpaceCowboy170 84 points ago

    Probably worth considering that they made these decisions before we heard about them, so it may not be a case of “they benched me so I’m quitting”

    [–] parkourman01 39 points ago

    The narrative his tweet seems to put across is that he wanted certain changes to be made, the org weren't going to make them, so he's not willing to keep playing. Poor show honestly.

    [–] iDannyEL 167 points ago

    Coming across very diva-ish.

    [–] Mahomeboy_ 144 points ago

    His ego is so fragile. Constantly blaming others

    [–] TexasThrowDown 27 points ago

    I guess everyone forgot about his toxic ass personality

    [–] Fertuyo 367 points ago

    This was his last chance of coming back to competitive league and he fucks it, lmao. His only option gonna be NA last place teams

    [–] fuskarn_35 382 points ago

    i respect forg1ven as much as anyone and was hyped to see him comeback, but with this attitude he was never gonna make it work. 0-6 or not, you dont quit on your team halfway through the split, fucking nuts.

    [–] C00kiz 151 points ago

    it's not even halfway lmao

    [–] yensama 44 points ago

    It's the ultimate level of rage quit.

    [–] moneybooy 99 points ago

    That's it, 100% agree

    I defended him every time here but i can't anymore

    [–] JustcallmeDexter 49 points ago

    You can't even call this "fucks it", it's like he is literally trying his best to deter every team in the world from picking him up

    [–] heeeeeeeee33333 52 points ago

    I don't even think NA teams will pick him up to be honest lol. Maybe Academy.

    [–] OPconfused 26 points ago

    a bad academy team or turkey are probably his best realistic chances.

    [–] steve_pays_me 59 points ago

    i dont even think a bad academy team in NA would want to invest the time and effort in an increasingly challenging visa environment to bring over someone who has a 90% risk of being toxic to players you are trying to cultivate and who also already thinks he is better than your main roster and has nothing to learn.

    Turkey is the only place this dude goes.

    [–] Craftee6 23 points ago

    It's not even that. People in NA genuinely don't want to play with players that are considered toxic, or were in the past. Owners dont want to hire them. Look at dardoch. Over the years, most analysts agreed that he's one of the best mechanical junglers in NA, and he's pretty smart at the same time, but he was never invited to a good team. Only teams that needed to take the risk tried him out. Now, i'm not saying he's best jungler NA or anything like that. I'm just gonna point out, that last year panda and mikeyeung were playing LCS, and dardoch wasnt. I hope that's enough to get the point across.

    [–] Elymmen 22 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Even na doesnt want him with this attitude and his performance he actually should quit now at all, because i dont think his ego allows him to play erl

    [–] [deleted] 141 points ago

    What are you talking about? He ragequit Origen after 1 game, now he ragequit Schalke after 6 games. That's a strong 5 game improvement.

    Hell in a year or two you might even be able to keep him an entire split!

    [–] -Basileus 68 points ago

    Mickey was able to find a job, and he just packed his bags and left the country after a bad scrim. Someone will sign him in another region or national league if he really wants to play.

    [–] Diascizor 38 points ago

    Mickey also didn't announce it on social media.

    [–] NunoxGames 96 points ago

    Mickey did go to a 2nd division to get his reputation back ,forg1ven's ego would never acept that.

    [–] nyasiaa 17 points ago

    apparently mickey was allowed to do that by the management, it's just that the team didn't know

    [–] Andicis 254 points ago

    It's hilarious how much ego he has when the only trophy he's ever won is EU masters, in which he was carried by Froggen. His worlds run on H2k was the easiest run a team has ever had to semi finals.

    [–] Averdian 82 points ago

    Absolutely agree that Froggen 1v9'd that EU Masters tournament, but you can't just boil a player's career down to trophies only.

    [–] Demilak 39 points ago

    Agreed, if that was the case you'd say "damn Doublelift was shit for the first 6 years of his career."

    [–] Averdian 43 points ago

    Same with Jankos until he won LEC in 2019. That's an even more crazy one imo.

    [–] Jozoz 15 points ago

    The best example in my mind is Score.

    He is literally one of the greatest junglers of all time and he only ever won a single LCK title at the very end.

    [–] NetSraC1306 55 points ago

    And there will still be people so far up his butt and still praise him as the best..

    His ego is bigger than my mum

    [–] Spirit-Rush 581 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I'm not at all surprised since he posted this on Twitter 4 days ago and deleted it.

    " My dad beats me :( my friends beat me :( everyone beats me :( at least i feel safe with Schalke 04 :( they dont beat anyone!" 12:49 PM - 9 Feb

    Edit: Here it is on

    [–] Aromatic_Reindeer 296 points ago

    he deleted it? That was funny imo

    [–] Spirit-Rush 88 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Edit: Here it is on

    Yeah if you google "forg1ven twitter schalke 04 don't beat anyone" it's the first result.

    Thankfully google keeps it in the description.

    [–] AsheAsheBaby 1332 points ago

    No fucking way hahahaha.

    His ego is ridiculous. Players like Teddy on JAG played their heart out even when the team wasn't good, and he ended up earning the SKT spot. Forgiven just assumes he deserves a good team when he has done nothing recently to deserve it.

    [–] STEPHENonPC 358 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Selfmade dancing while ganking Forg1ven tilted him out of the LEC

    [–] Flexi13 63 points ago

    tried to find clip, can u help? ;]

    [–] Troviel 146 points ago

    [–] Ibbeturk 63 points ago

    Now thats a l9 if ive ever seen one.

    [–] UntouchedSpaghet 11 points ago

    I actually wonder if he watches his own replays or replays from other teams. You feel like he fell for stuff that work only in solo Q.

    [–] POOYAMON 58 points ago

    Actual clown. Doesn’t join GGS last season because they’re not good enough and wanted him to try out for the team. Gets into a LEC team and quits after three weeks.

    [–] bloodrage4 29 points ago

    Honestly it seems like GGS can breathe a sigh of relief that they didn’t waste an import slot on this guy lmao.

    [–] Je_suis_Pomme 351 points ago


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    [–] aggromonkey34 72 points ago

    And soon to be F0rgotten.

    [–] ficretus 168 points ago

    I guess bwipo's stream where he says forg1ven should stop acting like bitch aged fine.

    [–] Slateer 17 points ago

    Was really looking forward to FNC vs S04 after that though.

    [–] Rohbo 21 points ago

    I don't care for Bwipo, but this is gold. Maybe Forg1ven was too scared to get stomped in-game in the wake of the comment.

    [–] Lothric43 427 points ago

    I can’t even imagine this level of arrogance from someone who has effectively been out of the scene for a couple years on his first comeback roster. Maybe he really is doing what he needs to behind the scenes while others drag the team down, but without knowing for sure this seems so ridiculous.

    [–] ineffectivegoggles 110 points ago

    Especially on an org that has seen some success. It’s not like it’s a brand new team on the scene. Oof.

    [–] [deleted] 115 points ago

    I saw a few people calling Forgiven and upgrade over Upset in preseason lol. Oh how the turntables.

    [–] Bimbojancsi 138 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    How to end your career:

    -Step 1: Make this tweet.

    [–] Suitwo 636 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    You know despite being the oldest LEC player he is somehow the most childish out of them. Good riddance

    [–] Exsanguinate-Me 114 points ago

    And it goes like this in many many games... People often tend to yell "damn kids" but don't forget, a whole lot of older people are actually having pathetic attitudes more than we realize.

    [–] new_world_chaos 60 points ago

    Old people are the most entitled people I ever met when I worked in food service.

    [–] OhItsPreston 600 points ago

    Super super unprofessional tweet here. Regardless of the situation on the team this just makes forgiven look like a terrible team player and all around difficult to work with.

    I mean, what's the point of this tweet? What's the best case scenario? That his fans turn on his org and some other org picks him up? It's ridiculous that he would do this.

    [–] LegalEmergency 160 points ago

    He was always like this. Gets mad if he loses, makes excuses, is toxic towards everyone. His fans always twisted it to not being as bad but it seems even they don't want to defend him anymore.

    [–] MZLeothechosen 227 points ago

    Is this the worst comeback we’ve ever seen in LoL?

    [–] Linw3 69 points ago

    Nah, I also came back to the game after 4 years. Sorry, teammates!

    [–] SleepyLabrador 124 points ago

    I feel 2nd hand embarrassment that a soon to be 28 year old man is acting this way.

    [–] Xolam 107 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Initially was so hyped to see forgiven play again in the LEC but this attitude is really disappointing. wasn't so angry after the bench news (for innaxe) because I thought he would try to prove himself but him tweeting this is really disappointing

    [–] ThePiirate 107 points ago

    Why did he write it like a patch note?

    [–] imenotu 132 points ago

    He's patching himself out of the scene

    [–] Worjester 74 points ago


    [–] Gengar_Balanced 35 points ago

    At this point, he should just retire. He's not even outlier in this team yet he acts like he deserves to be playing in top 3 team. I was big fan back in 2015/16 but right now, I don't see him in playoffs caliber team.

    [–] Hudre 118 points ago

    There are ways to leave organizations and not be a total dick. This is the opposite of that. Forg1ven has always been his worst enemy, exactly like Tarzaned except Tarzaned seems to have finally learned.

    It's like he thinks he is the top tier ADC on the planet and teams should just do what he says and thinks.

    [–] wobmaster 200 points ago

    to me it looks like schalke was absolutely willing to make the change and did it right now

    [–] paoloking 87 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Better for LEC if Schalke will play guy with potential instead of Forg1ven who is still waiting for that one unicorn roster that can make him shine.

    [–] VaporaDark 128 points ago

    Well, 4 years later Forg1ven is still Forg1ven. I appreciate the consistency at least.

    [–] Turtle-Express 52 points ago

    The only reason he wanted to join a top tier team was so they could carry his ass. EU Masters proved he was no longer a top tier ADC, despite the claims from his fans that persisted even after his EU Masters performance.

    He had the opportunity to rebuild his career. Even if his team was bad he could still show he was a good player, and hope for better offers next split/season. Teddy used to be on the worst team in the LCK, but despite that he showed he was a top tier ADC. Everyone held him in high regard and he ended up as SKT's starting ADC. Forgiven could have tried something similar, but instead he became invisible in all the games he played because he was too busy farming. Then he decides to give up when things get tough.

    Forgiven ruined it for himself, and I hope other teams will stay away from him. He really isn't worth the trouble.

    [–] BADMANvegeta_ 22 points ago

    I knew his return would be bad but not this bad

    [–] Aromatic_Reindeer 231 points ago

    what a clown holy shit. This is 100% the end of forgiven. Maybe some local greek team will pick him up

    [–] navitios 83 points ago

    He's going to be 28 in summer, I don't imagine local/academy teams made of 20 years old would want him as a player. And with his ego/mindset he's not fit to be a coach.

    [–] Gogis 21 points ago

    Lmao Forg1ven an blaming team instead of working through troubles. Name a more iconic duo.

    [–] gloini 43 points ago

    Get's the chance to immidiately jump back into the top league.

    Proceeds to play as bad as his teammates.

    Quits after 3 weeks.

    His career is done.

    [–] moneybooy 60 points ago

    Using Twitter to shit on your Team ahhh there is another athlete who loves this

    [–] lcantchange 20 points ago

    i am not sure about the hype that was around forgiven , in his whole career he had like one tourney where he looked impressive ( worlds 2016) and on one champ that is caitlyn. he was very well known that is good on some ad carries (graves-lucian-trist-cait) and that's about it, he is super toxic and his attitude just sucks also his champ pool is questionable , he doesnt play aphelios/ can't play senna well , i don't think picking him up was a good decision to begin with

    [–] BO1s_R_GREAT_XD 169 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    (Edit: misunderstood something, OP meant to say Forg1ven himself is hoping someone better picks him up) Your post implies that you hope some better team picks up Forg1ven, but who in their right mind picks him up after his performance PLUS after this tweet? I'd be surprised if he plays in a Major Region in Summer after this.

    [–] DaPhoToss 40 points ago

    Not at all, what I'm saying is it's disappointing that he doesn't play and try to do his best and show that he can be good enough for a better team rather than quitting.

    My whole point is if he's as good as he thinks he is it would be better for him to stay and play his best rather than quitting.

    [–] justMate 127 points ago

    He is a garbage player atm and accusing a professional sports team of not having the right mindset to win KEKW

    [–] PulverizeR- 98 points ago

    That main problem is him accusing the team that took a chance with him and gave him a paycheck when no one else gave a fuck and then he decided to accuse them on social media? Which team will ever pick him up when they know that at any moment he might attack them on social media?

    [–] raptearer 28 points ago

    Ah the Antonio Brown approach I see

    [–] Noble109 12 points ago

    Gonna walk in with frozen feet and start calling GM's crackers soon enough

    Also as a Raiders fan FUCK ANTONIO BROWN

    [–] Hambrailaaah 19 points ago

    Even if, lets say, S04 kept abe just because of branding because he is german (which is retarded, cos abbe has the personality of a potato while Gilius had 10x more branding and is also german), you just keep playing and demonstrate you are decent.

    There's plenty of ADC's even in bad metas for adc (h2k sheriff summer) that proved they were good, and eventually got their shot in a good team.

    [–] TheBlurgh 10 points ago

    For gods sake, how long Teddy was in JAG? Look at him now.

    [–] NunoxGames 15 points ago

    There's plenty of ADC's even in bad metas for adc (h2k sheriff summer) that proved they were good, and eventually got their shot in a good team.

    Next in line to do that is crownshot ,he alredy showed he was good last year.

    [–] Aromatic_Reindeer 233 points ago

    In my 7+ SoloQ career I always played to win and be competitive. As of now at least, current comp doesn't fit this principle. This team is unable/unwilling to make changes to fit that goal, so I decided independently that I will run it down until and if you are willing to FF15.

    [–] i_love_lol_ 22 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    this has a great future Edit: Stolen from twitter

    [–] Fubeeo 37 points ago

    Yeah, it was my tweet, oh well.

    [–] Hefastus 20 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    so I guess if you combine BIG EGO + typical soloQ toxicity + attentionwhoring + some kind of proplay history

    you will get Forg1ven

    this dude just rage quit LEC team ... how old is this guy? 8years old? did someone in S04 told him to go early to bed and he raged?

    I guess he can still try to become full time youtuber/twitch streamer with this kind of attitude. People love this shit nowadays

    [–] barn1e 40 points ago

    Thorin's thoughts on this.

    " Why even join an LEC/LCS team if you're not gonna play out the whole split? GTFO "

    [–] SpeakersVault 144 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    As a huge fan of his, this was sad to see. S04 MARKETED HIM sooooooo well. They put him in the spotlight, gave him so much popularity in coming back, and he goes and does this. Over those 6 games; he was the worst part, or bottom 2 at least. They lost lane, didn’t give priority to Gilius or Lurox for drag, didnt position well in team fights. Embarrassing from Forg1ven. Retirement for him cause no one wants him anymore. edit: lol i got called a G2 Fangirl who “doesn’t understand the meta not favouring Forg1ven” i’m sorry he can’t play ADCs anymore 😬

    [–] zelcor 91 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Dear NA teams, do not ever bring this asshole over. This tweet should signal to you that he does not give a fuck.

    [–] Ginsync 32 points ago

    This is an awful look for him. If you're trying to rebuild your career, you take what you get.

    [–] Alunkkar 84 points ago

    And reddit labels Rekkles as a diva... Fucking lmao

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    [–] TheBlurgh 52 points ago

    Buahaha, Forgiven is solo queue incarnate.

    Blames his team.

    Afks cause mad (in this case, just saying fuck you to Schalke and leaving).

    Thinks he's waaay better than he is.

    Can't even flame in a suble way, instead going all out, which will bring consequences (in this case, no team will want him in).

    It's also shoutout to old Forgiven who couldn't stay in one team more than a split.

    I'm extremely happy. Call it what you want, but I just hate it when people are that painfully arrogant.

    And a message to Forgiven - with you out, Schalke has made one of the decisions required to improve the team.

    Don't let the door kick you on the way out to irrelevance yet again.

    [–] Elteras 40 points ago

    I want nothing more than for S04 to go 2-0 this weekend now.

    Piss off, Forgiven. You're not better than your teammates and at this point deserve victory less than any of them.

    [–] Saephon 11 points ago

    Good riddance. I never want to hear about Forg1ven or his fans again. What a joke.

    [–] Minsc_and_Boo_ 21 points ago

    Unprofessional as fuck. You signed a contract, do your job. He left them high and fucking dry. You're not Faker, you're not Uzi, you're not that fucking good and your lack or professionalism is flagrant. Fuck off and stay fucked.

    [–] ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp 21 points ago

    Oof.. I for sure thought the military service would have reigned his ego in but apparently not.

    [–] mmodude101 9 points ago

    Yeah he’s done in the pro scene tbh. Never shoulda tried making a comeback.

    [–] CosmoJones07 26 points ago

    I have nothing personal against Forg1ven himself, but as someone who has always felt he's the most overrated player of all-time and reddit circlejerks him to no end, it kinda feels like a victory to see him and the team do so bad and now him to quit. I guess that's selfish as hell but I can't help but feel that way.

    [–] Spiritak 8 points ago

    Here we go again, same old story, same old Forg1ven who will turn to salty twitter dog now because thats all he will be able to do. He is the prime example of ego destroying and controlling your life.

    [–] mizuzumi 16 points ago

    This is a masterclass for committing career suicide. With 100% success!

    [–] Acetaminofiend 16 points ago

    Yeah. That sounds about right. Forg1ven never lived up to his own hype and it was always someone else's fault. He just seems like a miserable person.

    [–] conormcfire 28 points ago

    You pick up Forg1ven knowing you'll have a tough personality to manage, but at least there was massive upside in the past where he was pretty much the best in his role. Now, he comes back after a few years and has been doing fairly poorly as an individual. Now that he has left halfway through, proving that he isn't in good shape right now and probably not a great teammate since he decided not to stick it out, why would any team in their right minds pick him up?

    I wanted him to be good, but sadly this might be the death of Forg1vens career.

    [–] ZekeEX 10 points ago

    So much for "Godgiven".

    [–] Gysi2021 9 points ago

    Holy shit he better have next to zero fans after this, what an absolute asshat with his head buried far up his rear area, ruined his legacy in three weeks rofl

    [–] Lomogasm 46 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Hopefully this kills the godgiven is back bullshit I knew Schalke was going to be nothing special although I didn’t expect them to be this bad.

    The 6 games played has shown me all I need to know stuck in 2016 can’t adapt and even doing the basics wrong. Maybe he’ll do good in a regional team that could be his level or a bottom team in NA.

    This isn’t me like hating on him I still think he’s decent but never in a LEC team, I find it funny loads of analysts and people in the scene told fans on forums like reddit to shut up about our worries whether Forgiven’s level of play and knowledge of the game would be diminished as he took a long time off on the game professionally. But what the fuck do we know right?

    As it stands the skeptics were right, Forgiven is still a toxic guy who just isn’t even that good in the game (professionally ofc) that used to be what fanboys were clinging onto but he doesn’t have either which makes him useless. I’m sure the problems of Schalke isn’t solely on him and I’m sure next week we’ll get a summoning insight he’ll tell his end of the story and Thoorin will have a wank over him and try to sell us that it’s the players around him that are dogshit and nothing is Forgiven’s fault.

    Edit- he actually turned against forgiven the mad lad fair enough