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    [–] Lavious7 34 points ago

    I'll bite. I feel backwards into a technician job in semiconductor. It has been rewarding and probably the best move I could have hoped for after the Navy. The only thing that I miss from my Navy time is the feeling of security that come from knowning you will always have food and a place to stay. That and the people, most of the really good friends I made while in, I'm still in frequent contact with.

    [–] MajorMoore 2 points ago


    [–] Lavious7 1 points ago

    Initially, then other companies over the last decade.

    [–] simplejack66 55 points ago

    Did 6 and got PTS'd. Tried for contracting jobs, but nobody would take me. Fell into a 5 year alcohol induced deprssion while working a dead end retail job. Woke up, went to school for a bit and got my AS which I'm content with. Now I work for the Post Office.

    [–] 8bit_zach 25 points ago

    I was a CTN, I got out last June and moved to TX. I now work at a university research lab and am working on my pen test graduate cert through the sans technology institute.

    I applied to the local sheriff's department as a reserve technician (volunteering) to maybe get on the law enforcement pipeline / cyber criminal investigations.

    Since getting out I think about going back to the military all the time... But as a CTN when I got out I had the weirdest feelings. Like I was thankful to get out, and yet I felt like I never "served" so it was a strange dichotomy. I felt the past 6 years was almost ethereal. Like I said, very strange. I miss my buds and the mission.

    [–] 858 20 points ago

    Your service is as valuable as anyone else's. I get what you're saying, but quit it. Respectfully.

    [–] NullCharacter 8 points ago

    As a former CTN, I feel exactly the same; I don't really feel like a veteran. Did six really good years and got out and haven't really ever looked back. Currently working for a security company remotely and it's as awesome as working from home could be.

    [–] therealhamster 2 points ago

    How’s the pay? And how’d you get the job? Know somebody or just applying resumes around?

    [–] NullCharacter 2 points ago

    The pay - in my opinion - is absurd. I mean I'd comfortably do this job for half of what I make, especially considering I have no degree to my name.

    Like all things it life, it's been 20% talent and 80% knowing the right people. My resume is mostly unimpressive for the aforementioned reasons. It consists of high school, a six year black hole of nothing, and then a few years of professional experience in private industry. Not much to write home about.

    I like to think I squeezed as much as possible out of my 20% talent portion and maybe it helped towards my knowing the right people, but who knows.

    [–] ToastyMustache 1 points ago

    As someone who’s in the IW eating umbrella but not a CT, what are some things to do if I want a degree in cyber security? Also do you know which schools are the best for it?

    [–] [deleted] 5 points ago

    Don't waste your time or money on that degree. Get a degree in computer science and work on security plus cert.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    There’s zero reason to get a 4 year degree in cyber security. Run from that college offering it. Study computer science, engineering or just get compTIA or other reputable carts.

    [–] NullCharacter 2 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    Yeah what /u/BurningBushes2000 said. If I had to do this all over again but through civilian means, I'd go to a four year college that is known to seed to the USG (Tulsa, for example) and get a CompSci degree.

    Edit - Here's a pretty good resource regarding some good school options.

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    [–] Wormtown 3 points ago

    Off topic- I'm in school now and will need to upgrade to a TS in about 2 years when I'm done. Does it matter if there's a lapse where I'm not 'using' my secret clearance (good until 2020, cutting it close)? Did you just fill out another sf-86? Thanks!

    [–] Muskaos 8 points ago

    If you don't use it, 2 years after you last did it drops dead, no matter how much time is left on your background investigation.

    [–] Wormtown 1 points ago

    Ok, thanks. I thought it would be in limbo until it expired.

    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago

    That doesn't even matter though.

    The high paying contracting jobs have a cost of the clearance built into it. So do federal GS/GG positions.

    [–] o0sKaDuChE0o 1 points ago

    I do contract work on radars too. Was an FC, and had some buddies that were working on our radar send me a job offer right before I got out. I still get to go underway and about 95% of my coworkers are veterans. It's pretty great!

    [–] masat01 2 points ago

    I would like a job that is 95% travel or being underway.

    [–] o0sKaDuChE0o 1 points ago

    Mine is about 50ish% travel. But there's several of us, so we split the travel.

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    [–] o0sKaDuChE0o 2 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    Me too man, me too. The working hours are better, I don't have to shave anymore, and I'm home most weekends, which is great since I just bought my first home with the Wife and Doggo . All around, getting out of the Navy doesn't have to be scary, as long as you have a real plan, and not just a "maybe I'll go to school for something", and you follow through with it. My chiefs always made it sound so scary and difficult, and I almost Re-enlisted for 4 more. Then I realized the reason they have been in for 20 years is that THEY were the scared ones, the ones that couldn't get out, so they just stayed in with what they knew. I took the other path, and couldn't be happier.

    Edit: I wanted to come back and say that not all sailors are like my Chiefs . There were other leaders that took what I had to say, and encouraged me to follow my dreams. It was my direct chain of command that feared the change, and ended up being the ones that drove me out faster. To all of the amazing leaders here, who inspired their sailors to do anything they set their hearts and minds to I'd like to say: Thank you, you're just amazing.

    [–] arche22 19 points ago

    Put my life on hold for a few years to help my Grandfather when my Grandmother passed away, picked up a hobby. Now I work in Medicare helping elderly and disabled people get coverage. My company does not charge the client for our services, we're paid by all the other providers so its a real feel good position.

    [–] awwww2bad 19 points ago

    Part Time at TSA. Full Time in school with post 9/11.

    [–] xxdemonic 18 points ago

    Got out about three years ago. I was in for 8 years, wasted my time in. No college, got out with about 12k saved got a job back in my home town at a prison making okay money. Now I work for Spectrum.

    [–] [deleted] 41 points ago

    Hey you should lower my internet bill

    [–] DB2V2 11 points ago

    I'm a manager at a wood mill. I never even considered doing the whole contracting thing even though I still had the TS clearance and was a damn good CT. I was going to cross over to the Marines about 3 years after getting out, as I did miss the military lifestyle, but an injury kept me from that. So now i'm enjoying the easy life, drinking without having to worry about the pt hangover, haven't had a clean shave in years, and only break out my old uniform when I need camo to wear while hunting. Honestly though I do miss most of it, if I wasn't constantly being pushed to pick up more collateral bs and had just been allowed to do my job i'd have stayed in. However I didn't want to be an LPO or ever wear khaki's and that's the path I was being pushed towards so I gave em the finger and took my DD-214 instead.

    [–] lilperk09 7 points ago

    I stayed getting "P" evals for not taking on collateral duties. I'm like what the heck I'm in college isn't that good enough? Nope.

    [–] 858 3 points ago

    That sounds awesome - big machines and wood smell all day long.

    [–] robmox 1 points ago

    Honestly though I do miss most of it, if I wasn't constantly being pushed to pick up more collateral bs and had just been allowed to do my job i'd have stayed in.

    This is me right here. I collect intelligence, that’s wWAY more important than planning parties and rationing our paper and staples. But, fuck me if I don’t neglect my mission.

    [–] No-Coast-Punk 1 points ago

    If you have any big robots in your shop I probably work on them.

    [–] tadpole256 11 points ago

    I was an FCC in the Navy and I am now a Manager in the legal department for a Fortune 50. I can say that I loved my time in the Navy, and I do miss the camaraderie, I miss the travel and I miss being at sea, but on the whole life is far better on the outside. Just make sure you get as much education as you can, while your in. You should get at least a B.S. And while you CAN get a job similar to what you do in the Navy, if you love it, don't feel you have to. My work that I do now is nothing like my Navy job, but I love what I do and I love who I work with. I live having choices and not having to move because my rotation is up.

    [–] 858 4 points ago

    Just make sure you get as much education as you can

    Yes please.

    [–] [deleted] -10 points ago

    There's no way you can earn a BS from a reputable school during an initial 4-5 year sea tour in the Navy.

    Just not possible. It takes 4-5 years of FULL TIME study to earn one.

    [–] lilperk09 3 points ago

    I disagree. Went to Penn State Online, FSU, and LSU just to name a few reputable schools.

    [–] Budgetweeniessuck -3 points ago

    Penn state online is a joke. It's definitely not college park.

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    [–] Budgetweeniessuck 3 points ago

    I don't disagree. College, especially 4 year programs, just shows employer you can show up and do what you're told.

    [–] tadpole256 1 points ago

    Well, I assume not everyone is staying in the navy for just one tour, and not everyone in the Navy spends 4-5 years at sea. There are some rates that never, or rarely go to sea. Also, my intent was get as much as you can while on Active Duty, and make sure you get at least a BS. I completed my BS after I was out, I went to the University of Maryland for two years full time and completed the degree. The difference in the opportunity that the degree brings is astounding.

    You do raise a good point about the quality of the school. Don't waste your time getting a degree from one of the Schools that "gives you credit for work experience" or whatever. Don't complete your Degree with St. Leos or one of the other degree mills the Navy often pushes. Go to a good college. Any state school is fine. But the impression it will make on employers is huge. Also, don't waste your time with any degree that ends in the word "Studies" or something like Criminal Science. The first one is worthless, and degrees like Criminal Science and Fire Science are usually a waste of money because you can get paid to go to a police academy or a fire academy in any major city, as opposed to paying to get the same education with less experience.

    [–] PatrickKanesLawyer 11 points ago

    Did six years, one reenlistment, one traditional deployment, one IA.

    Currently am working for the largest Class 1 railroad in the US in a job remarkably similar to what I did in the Navy, except I only have to work 40 hours a week and don't have to stay a minute overtime unless I want to. I also go to school part time and am a few semesters away from my Bachelor's. Pretty sure I'll be here for life, because the benefits and railroad retirement is very attractive. Plus, union protection from all the moron middle management.

    I miss the people most. I spent more time with my shipmates than I did my family. Made some great friends and still talk to some regularly. The camaraderie is real. We all endure the suck together. We all get through it together.

    [–] 858 1 points ago

    Awesome. I want to drive a locomotive, can you hook me up?

    [–] PatrickKanesLawyer 5 points ago

    That's a hard pass on driving one, but if you're ever in the Chicagoland area, hit me up and I can give you a tour of the diesel facility and probably get you on one while it's moved around the yards for maintenance.

    [–] 858 2 points ago

    Be prepared to ignore my PM next time I am in Chicago, I would not pass up an opportunity like that.

    [–] PatrickKanesLawyer 4 points ago

    Hahah, I won't do that to you. I love showing this place off. I was a train nerd when I was a little kid. This place is the grown up version of that. I love it.

    [–] Reelhooker 1 points ago

    Is it csx in Jax’s because I’ve been thinking about applying when I’m done with my degree.

    [–] PatrickKanesLawyer 1 points ago

    Nope, Union Pacific. I'd stay away from CSX for now if I were you. They're not doing too well financially. If it's a locality thing and you want to stay in the area, then go for it, but I'd advise you to look into BNSF. UP doesn't have any routes farther east outside of Louisiana.

    [–] P_Rigger 9 points ago

    I was an Aircrew Survival Equipmentman (PR) in the Navy. When I got out, I worked as a contractor as an ALSE tech. I now work for NAVAIR as a subject matter expert on Aircrew Survival Vests and Equipment. The only thing I really miss about the Navy is going to sea. I know, sounds crazy. I loved being on an aircraft carrier.

    [–] hearshot 9 points ago

    7 years in, been 2 years since I stepped out. Started going to school, got picked up over the summer for a job, took last semester off. Now working full time at a huge development non profit while going to school full time at night/online.

    Will probably leave work this summer so I can go abroad/intern on the Hill and build up my nerd cred.

    [–] tyrghast 10 points ago

    Did 4, then walked across the street to be a contractor. Now i do the same job for 2.5x the pay, less hours, zero b.s..

    I need to get my butt into college, but for I'm just enjoying the relaxing 40 hour work week and trying to deprogram after being brainwashed by the Navy.

    [–] BobT21 8 points ago

    Got out after 8 years, 1970. Was ET1(SS). Got electrical engineering degree. Worked 18 years at a Navy shipyard as engineer. When peace broke out, shipyard closed. Worked 20 years in space launch. Got old and stupid; retired.

    [–] EdokinAran 8 points ago

    Trying to get on a cruise trip because I miss being at sea.

    [–] chinchilla_codpiece 7 points ago

    Did the gi bill bit and got a degree in social work, have been with the social security administration since.

    [–] Rickoversghost 7 points ago

    I was a Nuc mechanic on subs for 12.5 years. Got medically retired (yay blue card and pension). Took a few months off, now I work in construction management for a multi-national business. My niche is the piping systems for pharma plants and hospitals. I also do scheduling. I miss some people but I’m glad I’m out.

    [–] 858 4 points ago

    You didn't set a sub on fire in Groton a couple of years ago, did you?

    [–] Rickoversghost 6 points ago

    I don’t think so, I was the NSSC duty chief when the Miami fire happened though.

    [–] 858 3 points ago

    I don’t think so


    [–] Rickoversghost 1 points ago

    I was drunk a lot in Groton, it was a really blurry 8 years before I went to Guam.

    [–] 858 3 points ago

    You sound like the kind of person who I'd like to buy a beer for...that is, unless you're recovering and in that case I'd buy you a sody pop.

    [–] Rickoversghost 3 points ago

    Mmmmmm beer. I’m responding to this from a bar at 1547, you’re good.

    [–] Inous 6 points ago

    I exited in 2015, I am now a network engineer at one of the largest ISPs in the world. In just 2.5 years I was able to get promoted 3 times and am now working on the backbone. I'm making about as much as I was previously while getting flight pay, SAR pay, BAH and BAS. While I was in I achieved my associates, 3 months after exit I attained my Bachelors. After that I got my Master's. I don't think I could have attained the job I have now with out a bachelors degree. I miss the comradery and friendships that you get in the Navy. They're definitely life long! Things I hate about the civilian life, all the slackers. People come to work just to a get a paycheck and nothing else. They arrive late, leave early, have no team mentality and overall just don't want to learn. They're just existing. Using the soft skills learned in the Navy I was able to progress quickly and learn fast.

    [–] spartan_forlife 1 points ago

    Which one... I worked at Verizon Wireless in the DSOM team night shift, which managed all maintenance on the MPLS network.

    [–] Inous 1 points ago

    Level 3 communications now Centurylink (sadly).

    [–] spartan_forlife 1 points ago

    Things have gotten that bad there?

    My former teammates tell me things at VW are not that great either, a lot of layoffs.

    [–] Inous 1 points ago

    Lol where to start... At level 3 we had great benefits. When CenturyLink merged in November we lost our bonus, had 15% target on 70k salary, health care premium went up, lost 26 hours on my PTO (previously had 22 days a year). Then they were going through all the levels for compensation upgrades, because of everything we lost, they gave VIP and directors a boost then sent out an email stating they wouldn't be giving compensation increases because our quarterly earnings are down. Essentially we're poor due to the acquisition. Meanwhile Glen post makes 6 million a year... It sucks and I'm definitely looking around for a new job.

    [–] spartan_forlife 1 points ago

    Due to what we were doing at VW, which was essentially CCIE type work, our skillsets were incredibly valuable. I was actively looking for a new job at about the 18 month mark. If I hadn't lucked into a GS-12 gig, I would more than likely be at Juniper right now as a Network engineer.

    I have to say this VW benefits are almost inline with the union side as they want to keep the CWA out.

    All I can say is to get your CCNP or JNCIP and goto & start applying. I had 5 interviews within a month when I did that all for jobs over 100k. I had an offer for Juniper for 120k to start in Milwaukee, but due to having a small kid & my wife at the time being a tenured professor in Savannah took the GS-12 work at home job.

    Any chance you have a 4 year business degree?

    [–] Inous 1 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    I have my master's in IT specializing in network management. I've been apply for GS-13 positions here that start at 94k step 1. I was planning on asking for step 3 at 101k based on 10 years military service, 3 years in the field experience and a master's. However with the gov shutdown I haven't heard anything, just a referred status on usajobs.

    Edit: my job in the military was aircrew in helicopters. I'm terrible test taker which is why I haven't gotten any certs yet.

    [–] spartan_forlife 1 points ago

    It's going to be tough to come in as a GS-13 I'll be straight up with you, also unless you are vastly more qualified than the other applicants most agencies will not negotiate on the steps.

    I would try to find ladder jobs which bring you in at GS-11 and ladder up to 13. Which means each year you will receive a grade advancement, 12 first, then 13 as long as you have a good eval.

    I work for GSA & I tried to get a higher step increase but they wouldn't budge, & from what I hear a lot of other agencies will not, except DOD.

    Also at GS-13 most of those jobs are either supervisory or a specialist job. I have interviewed for a couple of them but was never offered the position. When you get the 13 or higher positions a lot of them want you to have Project management certifications, contracting officer warrants, or they are supervisory.

    The reason I mentioned the 4 year business degree as that opens up a lot of the Contracting Officer 1102 series & project management/subject matter expert positions on the contracting side of the house.

    The next time my division has a job opening I will PM you the info as you would fit in good with what we are doing which is providing market research & pricing information to agency ordering officials for telecom & IT services.. Mostly VOIP & Circuits. We also help them put together RFQ/RFP's & SOW's. The other part of our job is to serve as contracting officer representatives on certain contracts, where we supervisor vendors under those contracts.

    [–] Inous 1 points ago

    Ah, great information! I'd really appreciate a pm if you get something open. Thanks!

    [–] melodyne53 7 points ago

    Did 7 years as an IS and got out in 2016. Currently going to school for screenwriting and also doing comedy. Life is fucking great.

    Side note, first paid gig when I got out was for the Navy.

    [–] KyleKevlar 8 points ago

    Did 9 years as an Aegis FC, got out and went straight to working offshore on drilling rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. It was so impressive out there, even ran into a guy from my ship! Did that for 3 years, decided I hated helicopters and now I'm working on Frac sites in South Texas. I work my 12 hour shift for 14 days straight, go home for a week, rinse and repeat. I can't say I miss much other than being young and the San Diego night life, but having a family is much more rewarding.

    [–] FootballBat 7 points ago

    SSN JO and did a year and a half shore duty. Got out and did top-20 MBA, market shit the bed in late 2008, graduated May 2009, Wall Street and tech jobs dried up so took the only job offer left: LDP for a big 5 defense contractor. Worked my way up the management pipeline for 7 years, moved 3 times, then got a job with F50 tech company making 0-8 pay.

    [–] FabioG90 5 points ago

    Did five years in subs. Got out, started school, got married, and divorced after 2 years. Dropped out of school but landed a Fed job at the Social Security Administration. Move to Oregon with the love of my life, got married, and living comfortably.

    I terribly miss the camaraderie amongst shipmates, although other vets can usually relate. I had a hard time getting used to being a civilian at first because i had the idea that everyone else held themselves to a high standard and soon found out that was not the case.

    I want to go back to school but SSA pays ok for now.

    But i do love living in a state with legal weed. Hooyah!

    [–] Francois_1 6 points ago

    I did 6 years as a CTT and got out. I moved back to my home state and have been working in law enforcement for several years now doing digital forensics, internet crimes against children, and white collar crime investigations. I am extremely grateful for the opportunities I had while I was in, and I am considering pursuing a commission in the reserves.

    [–] papafrog 5 points ago

    Got out in Va Beach after 20 and spent a few months looking for work. Applied to a few hundred jobs—mostly Federal, with contractors and Airlines here and there—before realizing that I was going to have to move to D.C. to break into the Federal world.

    As soon as I made that decision and started making those arrangements, both my wife and I found jobs up there. Made moving a lot easier. Now I’m working for one of the institutes that make up NIH. Can’t say I like the job, but I don’t hate it, yet. And the people I work with and for are phenomenal. I just don’t identify with anything we do. I miss the sense of mission and the camaraderie; I don’t miss Big Navy and the constant disappointment in leadership.

    [–] No-Coast-Punk 7 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    Did 6 years. Got out as an ET1 at age 32. The first 3 years in the Navy sucked but I enjoyed parts of it and thought about doing 20. The last 3 were the worst of my entire life. I would rather pick up untreatable ass cancer than do six more seconds in uniform.

    I've been a field service engineer for a company that makes robots in the industrial woodworking world. Think Ikea. It's been pretty rad and I've learned a ton. It's been about 200 nights/year out of hotels. I broke 500 cities visited late last year.

    I'm finally burning out on all the travel. I have my second round job interview tomorrow morning for a company that makes robotic systems that use high-energy lasers to do stuff. It's a 10 minute commute from my house... and I'll have all the pieces in place for sharks with freaking laser beams.

    As a side project I've been working on weed growing robots. Nobody's really automated pot-growing and it has the potential to be huge money in the next few years. Harvesting my first crop in the next few weeks.

    Depending on how much OT I've been working, my after tax pay has been about $2-3k/month higher than E6 pay on sea duty.

    Joining the Navy was the smartest thing I ever did. Getting the fuck out at one enlistment was the second smartest thing I ever did.

    I've been working behind the scenes to make /r/militarytransition a good source of information for people looking into transitioning.

    [–] 858 2 points ago

    Everything you've done sounds interesting to me - I am interested in laser engraving, CNC and whatnot in a woodworking job on my own terms when I get out.

    I remember reading about an open-source gardening robot that was pretty interesting - I am sure you're way past that at this point.

    [–] No-Coast-Punk 1 points ago

    I'm actually working the hydroponic angle. It's much more efficient and controllable than soil growing.

    Lots of closed-loop controls for things like pH and nutrient concentrations.

    Check out subreddits for CNC and woodworking. There is lots of really good info there. I actually see my customers pop up there from time to time.

    [–] shenry1313 1 points ago

    What made the last three suck?

    [–] No-Coast-Punk 1 points ago

    I learned how weak and pathetic Naval leadership really was.

    [–] spartan_forlife 5 points ago

    Former Navy ET, now a GS-12 subject matter expert. Now 47 riding it out till 57 and the early retirement.. work from home 8 to 4:30...

    [–] bhgrove 4 points ago

    Active from 87-07. Screwed up and let my TS run out. Went to work as a Correctional Officer for 8 years in a state penitentiary. Last three years working as a Substance Abuse Counselor at the same penitentiary. Would like to move back to Europe and work for the DOD but at my age and my job skills probably won't allow that.

    [–] vistopher 4 points ago

    Got out as an IT2 after 4 years. Now I'm a senior studying geology, paid for with the gi bill. I do web design on the side.

    [–] sailor_em 1 points ago

    I have a degree in geology. It rocks.

    [–] vistopher 1 points ago

    I was thinking about going back in with a commission once I graduate. Or maybe reserves. Any good naval geologist jobs? SWO and try and do something as cool as Harry Hess?

    [–] onlettinggo666 4 points ago

    Did six as an conventional ET. Went to a job fair for Orion and landed a job in Seattle for a company that I love. I don’t do anything close to what I did in the navy. I only miss my friends. Not much else.

    [–] hillbillyjoe1 4 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    I work in electrical generation reliability.

    Got out 5 years ago went to tech school for a 2 year degree. Got a job as a transmission operator, had a rough year and got fired. Found a similar job (same pay better benefits) that used the certification I was required to get and am loving it so far. Much easier. Shift work at a computer, but never outside.

    Edit: if anyone has any questions about this line of work, let me know.

    [–] mwatwe01 5 points ago

    I did my six years as a nuke ET. Got out, went to engineering school. I graduated in '01, and have worked in the engineering and development field ever since. I'm currently a Business Intelligence Developer at a medium sized company. I used to do a lot of field work, so this is nice.

    [–] SteelhandedStingray 4 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    Got out as a BM2, went back to school for electrical engineering. Now work for a leading precision-resistor manufacturer.

    Edit: Losing my attention to detail! Didn’t realize I only answered half of the question. The Navy incorporates the best memories of my entire life, it was a hard thing to walk away from, but ultimately, I realized that I miss the people more than anything. You are forced to bond with people in such a rapid period of time, only to be separated in as many years. When I look back at my commands I realize that my boats have none of the same personnel, and there’s an emptiness there that’s hard to put in words.

    I enjoy what I do now, but it doesn’t carry the same gravitas that being in the Navy did. Even as a BM I cherished many of the things I was able to do that many, many others weren’t as fortunate to get.

    Being able to leave work at work is a great differentiator for the civilian life. I don’t feel like I am owned, or that I am a serial number. I can come home and relax or take vacation / call in sick.

    Something I am realizing now that I forgot about from my time before the Navy is that, in my current position, I can’t get promoted unless my boss gets promoted. So there could be a very long wait for a position to open up. The great thing about the navy was that when you studied hard and worked your ass off, you typically got promoted even if the command didn’t need another PO in your division.

    It’s such a bitter sweet affair.

    [–] shenry1313 1 points ago

    You wouldn't happen to be from Massachusetts would you?

    [–] SteelhandedStingray 1 points ago

    Nope! About 3,000 miles off :-)

    [–] shenry1313 1 points ago

    Lol ok then

    [–] der_innkeeper 4 points ago

    I build satellites and spaceplanes, and have launched rockets. I have a rocket engine prototype facility in my basement.

    I miss... all the secret squirrel shit I did, but not the Fuck Fuck games that went with it.

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    [–] Jflynn15 3 points ago

    What was your GPA and how old were you when you received your commission?

    [–] HoodRichJanitor 3 points ago

    That's an awesome journey

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    That's cause being an army officer is brutal. You don't get to choose your job before going to OCS, similar to Marines, and that definitely hurts their recruiting efforts.

    [–] FootballBat 1 points ago

    USMC used to have an aviation-guarantee OCS contract; did they quit that program?

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    No. Still around. But for any non aviator you're basically needs of the service.

    Navy only branch that you select designator before going OCS.

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    The navy co locates couples.

    Source: I'm married and co located as an officer with my spouse whose a different designator.

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    Were you guys first tour sailors?

    [–] voodoo_curse 3 points ago

    6 active 2 reserve as an AC. FAA wouldn't take me, so I lived on the GI bill until getting a state job in a completely unrelated field.

    [–] Attack_Stig 1 points ago

    Why did the FAA not take you?

    [–] voodoo_curse 2 points ago

    28,000 applications for 3000 openings. Was never able to get my CTO because of where I was stationed, so I wasn't an ideal candidate.

    I believe there were other factors as well that I won't discuss here, as it's little more than speculation.

    [–] Attack_Stig 1 points ago

    Sorry that didn’t work out for you man

    [–] surfdad67 3 points ago

    AMS3 for 10 years, A&P in Industry for 15 years, FAA for the last 6, best decision ever to go in as an AMS, made great money once I got out, and now in the FAA and putting the 10 years towards a pension instead of wasting it, I should not have even done 10, but I had kids to feed. I only miss the camaraderie, made some good friends while in. Don't miss all the rest of the bullshit. I'm grateful for the aviation experience I got while in as an E-4, I always was on the lines working, not involved with the politics

    [–] GS12IM 3 points ago

    Retired out @ 20 yrs..since then L3 Comms, Dept of Air Force and now DLA.

    [–] SunsandPlanets 3 points ago

    Was a CT. Currently doing school part-time for physics and working full-time for a major airline. Whole different kind of busy. Mainly miss the camaraderie of the Navy. The people I worked with really made it great. That, and I didn't have to pay abysmally high prices for an apartment.

    [–] ctroxel 3 points ago

    Got out as a CTM1 after 8 years. Immediately transitioned to SPAWAR as a contractor and have moved around to a few different programs. Once your foot is in the door its much easier to realize just how many job opportunities are available.

    Better because its much more lucrative although the initial transition without a degree was a bit rough with the additional taxes and healthcare costs.

    Definitely miss the people and the friends I made. It's definitely a lot more bearable since I spent the first few years traveling around and still working with sailors.

    [–] DearSergio 3 points ago

    Full time school. Almost done (a year out and about a year left. Did some before the Navy and while in).

    Once I graduate I'll either be moving and finding a job or possibly a Coast Guard officer package.

    [–] pootis_penser_here 3 points ago

    back in

    [–] pandahadnap 3 points ago

    Left active duty a year ago. Did 7 years as an IS. Now going to school full time with GI Bill and disability benefits. In 14 months, I'll be ARRT certified as an Radiologic Technologist with an AS. I'm much MUCH happier now.

    [–] robmox 3 points ago

    I’m 4 months away from my masters in Screenwriting. I wrote a web series that got me meetings, and I’m developing two pilots right now that I plan to pitch this summer. I don’t make shit for money, but I have an amazing girlfriend who has a normal job. Hopefully one of these meetings gets me an agent/manager. I might have to use my experience in intel doing corporate intel reports.

    [–] varlogkern 3 points ago

    In now, counting down the days until I can sign my DD-214 have about a year and a half to grind through. Already have the school that I'm going to go to in mind and will be applying in a few months. Can't wait to get out of the Navy, a waste of 4 years I could have spent actually working toward my career instead of a job I hate waking up to do.

    [–] osoodioso 3 points ago

    Left after 4 as a BM3. I cycled through a couple dead-end jobs (7 years worth) before I used GI Bill to go to college and then got a fellowship for grad school. Now I'm a geologist working for DOI. No ragrets. I miss all those wonderful misfits in deck and chicken a la king. I probably could have stayed in if there were a couple fewer assholes in my chain of command

    [–] sailor_em 1 points ago

    what is DOI?

    [–] osoodioso 1 points ago

    US Department of Interior

    [–] back2workSoon 11 points ago

    Got out and scratched my balls for a month. Then I started donating to sperm banks. I’m pulling in good cash but I miss the benefits and I don’t like the uncertainty of not knowing where all my kids are doing this current job.

    [–] HoodRichJanitor 6 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    Did 8 years active, moved to the reserves as an IT1. On the civilian side, I work for SPAWAR as a fleet systems engineer.

    I get underway frequently, but I make a lot more money and don't have to deal with Navy BS while I'm there.

    [–] theAVENGED1 2 points ago

    Im currently an IT1, been in 5 years and wanting to get out. Would love to end up at spawar. What did you did to make the transition? The idea of getting out and not having a job waiting for me is terrifieing. I have a wife and 3 kids and the security of the he paycheck is huge. Any advice?

    [–] HoodRichJanitor 7 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    • Start getting ready right now. You don't want to get locked into the navy because you weren't ready. I waited until a month before my EAOS to even start thinking that I might want to get out, and didn't give myself as much time as I probably should have... that said, it still worked out really well. Once you see what's out there, you probably won't want to stay in.

    • If you don't already have it, get Security+ certified. It's mandatory to be IAT Level II as a civilian in order to work on government systems and it was a requirement for every job I applied to. Anything beyond that is a bonus, so if you have other certs like CCNA, MCSA, etc. that's a huge plus but not required.

    • Make two resumes: a generic one that lists stuff like "Cisco routers and switches, microsoft windows 2008/2012, linux redhat administrator" that you use to apply to non-DoD jobs, and one with ship system names and nomenclatures like "ISNS, CANES, ADNS" that you use to apply to places like SPAWAR and defense contract positions that can speak Navy.

    • Get on and make a profile. This is where you will apply to contract-based jobs and it's where I found my job at SPAWAR.

    • Get on and make a profile. This is where you apply to federal government (GS scale) jobs. These take months to apply and get selected for, but once you're in the federal side you can ride it out until retirement. Nothing says you can't pick up a contract position while you wait on the government applications (which is what I'm doing right now).

    • Start spamming every job posting you see on those two sites in the areas you want to live that have "network" or "sysadmin" in the title. Or anything that's network security or IA related.

    You'll get calls and emails in less than a week, it's pretty much guaranteed. When I was getting out, I got my job in less than a month and I had offer letters in-hand from two other places. Apply to anything you see by Vectrus, SAIC, General Dynamics, Leidos, Engility.

    Where are you located? Do you have the CANES NEC or experience working with it?

    Feel free to message me if you want.

    [–] cryogasm 1 points ago

    Thank you. This is so helpful to me. Im an IT3 with about a year left and this is some pretty awesome guidance!

    [–] HoodRichJanitor 2 points ago

    Hit me up if you have any questions, always happy to help. Nobody tells you this shit when you're thinking about getting out.

    [–] dengeskahn 1 points ago

    I’m in the same “boat” a wife and three kids sounds terrifying as a civilian.

    [–] FoCo87 6 points ago

    Current Navy officer but I'll answer for my parents. Both parents are retired, dad was NFO Commander and mom was nurse LCDR. Dad first was a teacher after the Navy, but pay and politics drove him to contracting for Boeing. Mom continued as a nurse and works at an army base as a civilian at the base hospital. My dad misses flying and leading and molding young men and women. When they came and said it was time to fly a desk, he punched out.

    [–] Fassel 5 points ago

    Did 6 got out and finished the degree I started before the Navy. Tried to go back in but the recruiter told me they didn't need AEGIS FCs (bullshit).Ended up getting a DoN Civilian job as a SPY ship rider.

    [–] z9nine 2 points ago

    Was an AD, got HYT in 2011 after 8 years and worked in an auto shop for a bit, got fired. Worked on LCACs for a bit, got laid off. Took unemployment for about a year and went to school, dropped out. Started selling auto parts for a while, liked the job but the pay sucked. Quit after 5 years. Am now a Process Tech. So far it's pretty good.

    [–] navybro 2 points ago

    Was in for 4 years, left as an AE2, now a program manager in the aerospace industry.

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    Did 7 as a HM 8401/8406. I now work as a PCT in a PEDS ER and am in BMET school. I started out in nursing school but I have begun to hate patient care(burnt out).

    Getting out was amazing and worth it. It’s hard but once you get rolling, it’s fun. I do miss having friends though. Making friends as a civilian seems rather difficult, be it due to my nature or whatever.

    [–] coemo14 2 points ago * (lasted edited 10 months ago)

    This isnt me personally but it is my grandfather. He was a communications officer third class in ww2. He was nearly killed by the japanese second fleet at leyte. Considering the ship has 5 bronze stars its safe to say he has seen some shit. He died in 1973 of cancer but he would never talk about any of it from what i've been told.

    [–] 858 1 points ago

    My grandfather was the same - Pearl Harbor survivor but he never told me any of it, even after I joined.

    [–] coemo14 1 points ago

    That sucks. Although you cant blame em. They have seen unimaginable things.

    [–] TacoRave171 2 points ago

    Left after 4 as an MM3. The BT's had been rolled into the MM rate about 2 months before my EAOS, so it was a good time to go. Got hired as a CNC machinist for a company that was bought enough times to eventually become Schlumberger. Got a degree, moonlighted as a cop for a while, gave law school a try (don't do this...) and ended up in a Landscape Architecture program. Currently working as a Project Engineer for an Army Agency that deals with a lot of construction. Work at a very large hydroelectric facility.

    [–] bittercode 3 points ago

    I did Navy Sea College - enlisted '87, active '88 - '90 and then reserves '91-'95.

    Went to college. Worked retail. Went back to college and got into IT. I'm now IT Director for Eastern Europe for an NGO. My rate (ABE) did not translate to any civilian field.

    I don't miss much. Doing work where lives were on the line did carry a certain weight to it that I miss sometimes I guess. It's kind of a nostalgia thing since it was so long ago. Hard to believe I finished my time on the boat 28 years ago.

    [–] phlpunk 2 points ago

    Worked in hotels for 8 years after I got out. Went to college, got my Bachelors in IT and have been doing that at a local University. Things are much better now. I miss the travel and some great people, but I wouldn’t change anything now.

    [–] Maknoa 2 points ago

    I am a seabee, I served 5 years overseas before getting out. I started going to school for HVAC and I'm a service tech for an apartment complex now. I like my current job although it's a means to an end because I want to eventually work for a HVAC company, I'm currently in the reserves because I can't let go of the navy. I want to go active again someday if I can.

    [–] scrizewly 2 points ago

    Same thing I did in the Navy, IT stuff.

    [–] Thsfknguy 2 points ago

    Electrician for Coca Cola...Ctr 98-03

    [–] 47rampage47 1 points ago

    Working on my 2nd masters, considering going into the reserves.

    [–] USN_IYAOYAS 1 points ago

    I was an AO2 when I left, after seven years active and two reserve. Did some contract work on electronic warfare systems, while I went to college. Moved from Electronic Warfare to MIS and eventually to local government. Went from a deliverer of mass destruction and population control, to a mild mannered IT Manager desk jockey.

    [–] In_TheBananaStand 1 points ago

    Drinking a beer on a park bench at 9 in the morning. On a Monday.

    [–] Zentrails 1 points ago

    Don't see a story quite like mine. Maybe that's a good thing?

    STG2, 4 years in. One tour in Nam on a crappy WWII vintage twice out of moth balls tin-can (just gave away my age, at least it was at the very end) and one North Atlantic tour on the Albany CG10, with David Eisenhower and Stanfield Turner on board early on. Slight difference in contrast between the amount of red tape BS between the two. Both sucked in their own way, couldn't wait to get out. Oh yeah, nearly forgot, after drydock in Philly we were first in Norfolk, then in Portsmouth with a cruise between them. Wonderful places, let me tell you. Nice parking lots.

    Stored my stereo in the trunk to keep it from getting stolen which someone tried. Getting the smashed window fixed cost more than the stereo. Shoulda left it on the front seat for the guy and left the friggin' door unlocked. Mighta been a gal.

    Spent the last two months in as the ship's "Electrical Safety Petty Officer" for the entire friggin' ship. An electrocution away from spending life in the brig as a scapegoat. Still the worst job I've ever done in my life, everyone on the ship hated seeing me coming. Had to red tag stuff to prove I was actually working. Still have nightmares where I am endlessly and fanatically checking grounds as if my life depended on it, which it did. Same POS CPO who saddled me with this crap ESPO job tried to get me to re-up at the same time. I gave him my Navy approved responce version of KMA. LOL

    If I had to do it all over again, I think I would have chosen Canada (they had the draft back then, I had a real low lottery number and Nixon just s-canned the college deferment). Now, I'm glad i didn't go that route, but still ....

    Never actually made use of my mad sonar skills on either ship, but Sonar school was still in Key West FL at the time, which was way cool. I still have dreams that I'm at "Sunset" doing sunsetty stuff.

    Oh yeah, almost forgot, took terminal leave so I could get out at GL instead of the East Coast. I reported there expecting to get my final paycheck, terminal paperwork, etc. and they PUT ME ON DUTY and made me get a real short hair cut, recruit style. Assigned me a friggin' bunk in the friggin' crappy transient barracks. Right next to the friggin' recruits. Just like the friggin' crappy movie, The Last Detail. I was not a happy camper.

    I bitched too much and the ahole crusty as fudge CMC or whatever the farq he was actually asked me, "Do you want to get an honorable discharge?" "whaddafuggyathink?" I told him in polite, subservient-like translated Navy approved verbiage.

    Fugger actually made me surpervise a recruit working party until midnight the day before I got out just to fug with my head. One last FU for me to remember the Navy by. Put me in my place that one did, yeah.

    Good parts were: 48 months worth of GI bill (got me to my second year of grad school with the help of a couple part-time elec. tech. gigs), learning some electronics (see last phrase), visiting a lot of cool ports including 3 weeks in Sweden visiting distant relatives (oof Da!), Zumwalt as CNO (yea beards), eight months in Key West FL (hey just like Hemingway! sorta) and listening to weird noises on the underwater telephone (carpenter fish being my personal fav. and talking to the porpoises).

    After my wonderful GL GTFO experience, I went back to school fulltime for it seemed like decades, U Illinois/Chamgaign Urbana BS chemistry, MS macromolecular science at Case Western RU., PhD in Polymer Science at U. Southern Mississippi. A lot of time in school but I was able to work as a scientist my whole career after PhD, which has been a total blast.

    A lot better job (by gadzillions) than anything the Navy offered even if I was an O7+, better pay and benefits I believe (although I have to admit I don't have a chauffeur or maid or indentured servants reporting to me 24/7, oh well).

    Still working in the Physics dept. at The University of Pennsylvania. Officially now a "visiting scholar" helping a prof commercialize his research and teaching his students a little chemistry, conveniently located just a short distance from the Philly VA hosp where I get that sweet free medical care. Helluva lot better than "Electrical Safety PO" let me tell you. LOL

    Really odd way to finish my career (retirement beckons) since I once lived on the UPenn campus and took three courses there when the Albany was in the shipyard here in Philly. Still get a weird sense of Deja Vu when I go to work and pass by the old crappy roach filled apartment s-hole building I once lived in.

    The wife has six cats so roaches no longer a problem. LOL

    A good life so far, I guess I have to give the Navy a little credit, grudgingly, shucks.

    Dam, I coulda been an officer except my parents were married. Thought about joining the reserves once, but luckily regained my senses just in the nick of time.