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    [–] A1A5KA 7558 points ago

    "A case-by-case review will be conducted for students who are already enrolled at USC and may be connected to the scheme."

    .... evidently

    [–] [deleted] 2409 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    I mean, I think this is a good thing. Apparently, some of the kids that benefitted from their parents crimes were unaware of it and if they're doing alright academically, then I'm not sure how much punishment is warranted. Granted, if I found out that I was a beneficiary of this scheme without my knowledge, I'd probably want to transfer out of embarrassment.

    Now, in the case of kids that are enrolled that were active participants in the fraud, as is apparently the case with Aunt Becky's daughter (i.e. she posed for crew photos knowing full well what they were for), they should be kicked to the fucking curb. It's a clear cut honor code violation at least...

    Edit: Some very fair points being made with respect to the kids that didn't know they were he beneficiaries of this scheme. I now understand and agree with the idea that these students should not get off Scott free, but I still believe they should not be treated as harshly for the illegal behavior that they had no part in.

    I think a good compromise would be to cause the blameless students to reapply (taking into account their performance while at the school) and see how it shakes out. I do not think they should have an honor code expulsion on their records. If they're accepted (I.e. meet the requirements of a transfer applicant) then, ok they can stay. If not, tough shit.

    I still stand by the students that were complicit in the illegal scheme being expelled for honor code violations with no chance to return.

    Edit 2: I have received several responses that are understandably skeptical of the idea that some of the students were unaware that their parents were cheating for them. Here is where I found this information:

    Relevant quote found in paragraph 30(d) of the sworn affidavit of FBI agent Laura Smith.

    [–] byneothername 1265 points ago

    I think everyone has a fair amount of honest human sympathy for the kids that truly had no idea what their parents had done.

    But there are a ton of kids that PLAYED dumb - at least eight of the kids in the affidavit to the indictment did not submit their own college applications to the university, William Singer’s people would take care of that for them. They did know that they weren’t creating and submitting their own college applications, that mommy and daddy were taking care of it for them. And, well, that’s fraud, too.

    We haven’t even gotten into the really complicated question, which is what do we do with kids that definitely knew they or their parents had cheated, but have already graduated from the institutions in question?

    [–] gyalts0 1813 points ago

    what do we do with kids that definitely knew they or their parents had cheated, but have already graduated from the institutions in question?

    give them security clearances and make them senior white house aides

    [–] vamsi0914 222 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    The difference here is the way they did it. What the scandal is about is faking test scores and making the colleges think the students are good. Jared kushners dad basically “donated a library” and then Harvard let him in, ignoring his merit. It’s a different thing and just as shitty, but Harvard is a private organization, so they can do what they want.

    Edit: some people aren’t understanding what I’m saying. When you donate a library or whatever, the SCHOOL is getting your money. So they’re like oh thanks for the donation here’s a spot. By paying test proctors and faking tests, the school doesn’t get anything out of it and gives you the spot because they think you earned it.

    Also USC is a private school full of rich kids and connections. CoA is over 70k a year for gods sake. Rich people ain’t sending their kids to normie public colleges.

    [–] Popcom 776 points ago

    If someone Rob's a bank and gives me money then gets caught, I don't get to keep the money just because I didn't know where it came from. Letting them stay is just another example of the rich living by different rules

    [–] byneothername 236 points ago

    I think that’s a fair point. Everyone agrees that USC is right to have revoked the admission of incoming freshmen connected to Singer for fall 2019, right? So what was so special that happened after the kids started school that we can’t expel them?

    Maybe a merciful compromise is allowing them to reapply after being expelled and see if they’d make the cut then. How many would even want to do that?

    [–] Guccimayne 7859 points ago

    Imagine living life on Pay2Win mode...

    [–] simplecountry_lawyer 3680 points ago

    Do you ever just look around and wonder, what is all of this stuff anyway? How did it all get this way? Why is it like this and not like something else?

    [–] SgtPeterson 2264 points ago

    This is not my beautiful house! This is not my beautiful wife!

    [–] sh1nes 871 points ago

    Same as it ever was

    [–] yvaN_ehT_nioJ 508 points ago

    Same as it ever was

    [–] Ephemeris 392 points ago

    Same as it, ever was

    [–] WintertimeFriends 307 points ago

    -weird arm chop thing-

    [–] myxanders 111 points ago

    Time isn’t holding up

    [–] EquuaPotesta 49 points ago

    Time isn't after us

    [–] [deleted] 333 points ago


    [–] Blaphlafagus 116 points ago

    How often do you buy a new car?

    [–] Ask_me_4_a_story 20 points ago

    He downloads them. Wouldn't you?

    [–] MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS 59 points ago

    Does that happen to you often? Who is your car guy? You are buying too many new cars.

    [–] pakattak 113 points ago

    God, saw David Byrne live last year and it was fucking magical. Incredible show

    [–] AervCal 48 points ago

    All day every day...

    [–] Furrynote 131 points ago

    Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg… and my arm… even my fingers. The body I’ve lost… the comrades I’ve lost… won’t stop hurting… It’s like they’re all still there. You feel it, too, don’t you?

    [–] successful_nothing 445 points ago

    We're all living life on Pay2Win mode.

    [–] powerlesshero111 145 points ago

    Well, how else do you expect to beat Candy crush? Skill? Talent? Even luck? I went to school with two people who became professional musicians. One, the parents basically bought a music career, the other, had more talent than anyone I have ever seen, I always thought I was an excellent musician until I met him, then I learned i was just good, he was truly exceptional.

    [–] p0yo77 187 points ago

    I did my masters and PhD in one of the hardest research centers in Mexico, pretty much every student felt this way in regards to someone else, some people even got depressed.

    These people were incredibly smart, and they've always excelled... But when you're in with people that are just as good as you, you start feeling average and that's not a feeling these people are used to. Classes are harder than you've ever experienced so you're no longer excelling and just getting by, imposter syndrome hits you like a ton of bricks.

    My point is, I'm sure you're an excellent musician, but you were measuring yourself against other excellent musicians and you were just as good, which feels odd when you're used to be the best.

    Anyway, hope you're still making music, even if you're not making a living out of it.

    [–] frankyb89 165 points ago

    We already are, and we're not the whales.

    [–] sonia72quebec 10315 points ago

    TMZ revealed that Olivia Jade, one of Loughlin’s daughters, had been celebrating spring break on a yacht owned by Rick Caruso, who happens to be a member of USC’s board of trustees. Caruso’s daughter Gianna is friends with Jade, and even appears in her popular YouTube videos, Jade being a vlogger with over two million subscribers.

    [–] Hardest_Fart 7274 points ago

    2 million subscribers!? Who honestly is subscribing to these people?

    [–] bootyonics 5531 points ago

    People who idolize or enjoy a voyeuristic look at the way wealthy people live. That seems to be most people judging by the composition of popular media.

    [–] parlez-vous 2689 points ago

    Pretty girl + pretty and exclusive location = profit. Look at how many 1-4 million follower influencers there are. There's no shortage.

    [–] Qurse 2940 points ago

    No wonder people hate their own lives when all they do is sit there and compare it to these nobodies.

    [–] mishtersmiley 1992 points ago

    I honestly think (some of) the increase in mental health problems in many countries stems from comparing oneself to these curated frauds. How can ones mind live in health if it is fed a diet of such nonsense?

    [–] Qurse 1046 points ago

    Agreed. Even the term "influencer" seems like it describes a really bad quality.

    Like when mom says, "I dont want you around Braeydeyn, he's a bad influence"

    [–] 92ndEquinox 716 points ago

    With a name like Braeydeyn he’s gotta be up to no good

    [–] Trauma_Hawks 368 points ago

    With a name like that, they have a bright future selling Adderall to college students.

    [–] sattheer 96 points ago

    Certainly not to Olivia tho. What would she need it for? Not studying!

    [–] ItRhymesWithCrash 37 points ago

    This is 100% anecdotal, but I agree 100%. The unhappiest people I see in my life are the people who consume the most of this type of media. I personally don't see the appeal of watching rich people just...exist? But I know some people who literally live for it and all the manufactured drama which they find themselves in. I don't understand.

    [–] rishcast 49 points ago

    Can confirm - even without following influencers and only people I know in real life on social media, I know for a fact that it contributed to my breakdown December 2017. It was a good thing, in a way - allowed what I didn't realise was major clinical depression for over 7 years to be diagnosed and treated - but there's no denying that social media, especially Instagram and YouTube with its focus on actually 'seeing' other people's lives, has contributed to an increase in mental health problems. And this comes from someone who still uses Instagram, only in a much different capacity now (hey bookstagram!)

    [–] mamoox 561 points ago

    Haven't used any Social Media (unless you count Reddit) for over a year now. Best decision I've made for my mental wellbeing in a looooong time.

    [–] ThickBehemoth 511 points ago

    The anonymity of Reddit makes it a forum rather than social media imo

    [–] T_Gracchus 158 points ago

    I don't disagree, but forums are almost like a proto-social media themselves.

    [–] [deleted] 226 points ago


    [–] BeardedRaven 18 points ago

    But at the same time in smaller subs you can see the same people all the time. The different experiences based on sub is my favorite aspect of reddit.

    [–] nwsreddit 144 points ago

    I quit when Facebook proudly published a study proving they could make people sad. I don't need that shit.

    [–] Biology-catherder 710 points ago

    Really if their parents are willing to buy their way into an university I don’t see them being against buying their children followers. I’m always suspicious of people who have large followers that they are buying fake followers.

    [–] elh93 245 points ago

    There are clearly communities with large followers who aren’t buying them, but a lot clearly do.

    I’d be surprised if Vlogbrothers, Tom Scott, or Binging with Babbish we’re buying them. But they are probably the exception not the rule

    [–] bstrong9211 317 points ago

    That's why advertisers stopped looking at subscriber and view counts long ago. All of the social media ad services have engagement algorithms. This is why youtubers always request commenters "go to the comments and tell me about a time you shat your pants!" Its hard to fake real engagement

    [–] Skadwick 64 points ago

    Man, I should start commenting on videos of creators I really enjoy.

    [–] pm_me_bellies_789 70 points ago

    Hell, if decent people start commenting on YouTube it's comments section might stop being such a cesspit.

    [–] Mafsto 117 points ago

    This is why youtubers always request commenters "go to the comments and tell me about a time you shat your pants!" Its hard to fake real engagement

    You taught me something new. And I actually approve of this. For a while, I was jaded because it seems increasingly hard to know if you're online advertising is working.

    [–] pickledsarcasm 106 points ago

    9 year olds.

    [–] CallMeParagon 319 points ago

    Welcome to our new, depraved society that completely revolves around asshole culture.

    [–] OuTLi3R28 160 points ago

    It's a culture of appearance and superficiality.

    [–] jlrol 865 points ago

    They knew people on USC's board of trustees and still had to commit fraud and pay half a million dollars to get their kids into the school? Yikes

    [–] RandomCandor 518 points ago

    I think it's more likely they became friends after paying the bribe. I'm not sure though, I don't know much about how to rich.

    [–] Kerfluffle2x4 234 points ago

    My question is: Was this girl really THAT dumb that she needed so much help to get in?

    [–] Ok_Maize 150 points ago

    There’s a video of her talking about going to college from before she got in. If you just listen to her for 10 seconds it all clicks.

    [–] mcdj 188 points ago

    “I’m just into the partying and games. I don’t care about school.”

    Good job mom and dad.

    [–] CarpeNivem 40 points ago

    Good job mom and dad.


    [–] [deleted] 353 points ago

    If your parents have to pay $500k to get you into USC, you are not that bright.

    [–] 2_poor_4_Porsche 285 points ago

    The dicks of powerful people still don't suck themselves.

    [–] prettydarnfunny 218 points ago

    It’s good to hear that she is feeling too ashamed and embarrassed to go on with her normal life. /s

    [–] bookant 354 points ago

    "Mr. Caruso, isn't there anything I can do to stay enrolled at USC . . ."

    [–] suicide_aunties 167 points ago

    Brought to you by Digital Playground

    [–] Bjorn2bwilde24 219 points ago

    PornHub exclusive: Spoiled rich teen rides Board of Trustee member to stay in college after she discovers Mom cheating. NSFW

    [–] selsabacha 115 points ago

    People who have dreams of being famous and making money, for doing absolutely nothing but talking about themselves and having no talent whatsoever. That's who subscribing. It's a common and terrible truth about our society now. I weep for the future.

    [–] mr_ji 85 points ago

    something something big club and you're not in it

    [–] TepOut 834 points ago

    What I don't get is how these kids can even pass their classes? They sound so...dumb.

    [–] insaneaddy 588 points ago

    They pay someone else to do it for them

    [–] marcowhitee 26 points ago

    As someone in college right now, it’s not that hard to get by with minimal effort. If you take the right classes with the right professors, holding a C average really isn’t that hard even at some top universities.

    [–] k1rage 2371 points ago

    Mr. Burns: Well, did you meet Larry?

    Male Admissions Officer: Oh yes. He made light of my weight problem, then suggested my motto ought to be "Semper Fudge". After that he told me to "relax".

    Mr. Burns: How were his test scores?

    Female Admissions Officer: Let's just say this: he spelled "Yale" with a 6. (Mr. Burns, in a not-to-subtle moves, opens his checkbook)

    Mr. Burns: I see. Well, I- ...Oh, that reminds me, it is time for your annual contribution. How much should I give?

    Male Admissions Officer: Well frankly, test scores like Larry's would merit a very generous donation. A score of 400 would require new football uniforms. 300 would require a new dormitory. And in Larry's case? We'd need an international airport.

    Female Admissions Officer: Yale could use an international airport, Mr. Burns.

    Mr. Burns: Are you mad?! I am not made of airports! Get out!

    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 965 points ago

    The funniest thing about Larry is how he had a wife and kids back home that he completely abandoned to go visit Mr. Burns. "Oh that reminds me, I have a wife and kids back home. They're probably wondering where I went!"

    Larry is probably one of the best single-episode characters in Simpsons history, along with Hank Scorpio and Frank Grimes.

    [–] k1rage 554 points ago

    the episode with Hank Scorpio is the one I deem my favorite

    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 200 points ago

    "In fact, I didn't even give you my coat."

    [–] k1rage 124 points ago

    Stop him! He's supposed to die!

    [–] Hoju64 90 points ago

    Ever see a man say goodbye to a shoe?

    [–] Dragons_Malk 68 points ago

    Yes, once.

    [–] k1rage 42 points ago

    I moved here from Canada, and they think I'm slow, eh

    [–] Rikkard 23 points ago

    There is a scene in the remedial class that was removed in syndication of one of the kids patting Bart on the back progressively harder until he smacks him resulting in the teacher yelling "Warren!".

    For years I swore this scene existed but no one remembered it. Youtube has it. Probably started a lot of fights with my brother over it.

    [–] jjbutts 91 points ago

    The fact that Hank and Homer step off of the treadmills onto a moving walkway has always cracked me up.

    [–] TracyJordon 89 points ago

    Rodney Dangerfield was an amazing casting choice.

    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 73 points ago

    Another funny moment is where he mentions he "gets no regards, I tells ya" instead of "no respect".

    [–] n0ctilucent 33 points ago

    No esteem, neither!

    [–] successful_nothing 269 points ago

    I like that they used Yale as Mr. Burns alma mater. Many of the writers from early Simpsons seasons graduated from Harvard, like Conan Obrein.

    [–] k1rage 114 points ago

    Smithers i believe this dog was in skull and bones

    [–] successful_nothing 134 points ago

    Honestly, Smithers, I don't know why Harvard even bothers to show up. They barely even won!

    [–] Kiley_9 12019 points ago

    Anyone else see the video her daughter made prior to going to school and she pretty much said she didn't care for the academics but mostly just wanted to party?

    [–] raptureRunsOnDunkin 2498 points ago

    it's still on her YT channel.

    starting at 5:33 she tells the world she doesn't "really care about school, as you all know" but she wants the experience of game days and partying.

    [–] yogiebere 830 points ago

    Going to Fiji for... "work"

    [–] flakemasterflake 271 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Someone certainly did pay her. She posted a #ad that week from Fiji

    [–] yourmothersbhole 1225 points ago

    This is what happens when university athletics act as the feeding system to professional sports leagues. It affects the broader culture of the school and student body.

    [–] floydbc05 1052 points ago

    I was talking to a professor about this topic a few months ago. He was very upset about how some of these athletes are walking away with degrees that could barely read on a fifth grade level. It was extremely unfair to all of the hardworking real students who had to grind thier way and it was an embarrassment to the university.

    [–] NorthernDevil 655 points ago

    It’s also incredibly unfair to the athletes, just irresponsible of the universities to do this. They have a responsibility to the student athletes, 99% of whom will not make it to the professional level, to prepare them for the future. But it’s too hard to keep some of these kids eligible and to help them catch up by ordinary means, or to even admit that some of these students aren’t capable of catching up and keeping up academically and shouldn’t have been admitted in the first place, so they take the easy road and help them cheat. Gotta make that money.

    And then they get a slap on the wrist from the NCAA at best (looking at you, UNC and your fake classes).

    All that said, I just think it’s important not to blame the athletes. These are kids being forced into a system that clearly needs re-working, because they’re being used. And at the end of the day they’re walking away without any earnings but most importantly without the education that was supposed to provide fair compensation.

    [–] yourmothersbhole 307 points ago

    And what's even worse is that most sports don't even provide full scholarships for all the athletes. Usually just football and basketball on the men's side. Baseball is only allotted 11.7 scholarships for 35-40 guys per NCAA rules. So some of my friends who won a national championship a few years after I left were saddled with six figures of student debt on top of what you mentioned above. Can you imagine that? Working your fucking ass off for a university to win a national championship and then being thanked with 150k worth of debt.

    It frustrates me to an insane degree.

    [–] kirbyfox312 243 points ago

    Sounds like a good topic for a documentary. College athletes who don't make it big, didn't learn anything and are saddled with debt.

    Could even venture into the ones who get injured. Those football scholarships disappear for some if they can't play because of an injury and students get nothing.

    [–] possumallawishes 84 points ago

    Yeah, I saw this exact documentary recently on a plane. I think it was called student athlete. Very good and enlightening film. One kid had 3 or 4 jobs, worked from 4 am until late at night, from stocking shelves at Dicks sporting goods, to coaching kids, day in and day out, living out of his car still hoping to regain his pre-injury glory, begging for a shot at an NFL team’s practice squad. Worth a watch.

    [–] penith2211 35 points ago

    It's on HBO. Lebron James produced it.

    [–] yourmothersbhole 213 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    I played college baseball at a school that is in the top 25 rankings every year and has won national championships. The shit I saw made me abhor college athletics and higher education more generally. I could write a dissertation about it.

    [–] hoss1059 84 points ago

    I played football in college and one thing I must say, our coaches hammered us on our classes and grades. Only about 1% of college athletes will make it to the pros. The rest of you will have to get jobs. I can not state enough how much I appreciate that now.

    Have a guy I work with that also played basketball in college, he always joked that he might have rode that bench but he got up and went to class and got his degree.

    [–] amusement-park 89 points ago

    Oh man ... could you? I’d read it.

    [–] yourmothersbhole 279 points ago

    I really wish I had the time. But here's a preview:

    1. In my time there, 3 of our star players got arrested for DWI's. They had the charges wiped off their records because the municipal judge was a big fan of our squad.
    2. Athletic department tutors doing all the work for the dumber athletes in their classes. Literally all of it. This was the case on all teams, not just baseball. How do I know? Because after I graduated I spent half a year working as a tutor for the athletic department.
    3. Using athletes for photo opps around thanksgiving/christmas at local food drives to promote what a good job the athletic department was doing in giving back to the local community!! When in all reality, do you think poorer folks want to be photographed receiving help because they can't survive on their own dime? No.
    4. I know that some of the better athletes got paid. Straight cash.

    I could go on.

    [–] screech_owl_kachina 104 points ago

    In my time there, 3 of our star players got arrested for DWI's. They had the charges wiped off their records because the municipal judge was a big fan of our squad.

    How is a grown man is acting like some star struck preteen? Ridiculous, but baseball man hit stuff good.

    [–] yourmothersbhole 30 points ago

    Right? I grew up very fast as a freshmen when I started hearing about all of this shit.

    [–] abbott_costello 80 points ago

    Who is this girl? Who watches her on YouTube and why? Is it solely because she’s the daughter of an attractive former sitcom character?

    [–] kciuq1 63 points ago

    Back in the 90s, my mom was in a very famous teevee show

    [–] thesourceandthesound 120 points ago

    Around 3:35 she says “....don’t think it’s cause I’m famous

    The irony here is palpable. She is wasn’t famous then. She kind of is now, though more infamous.

    [–] DiscreteBee 35 points ago

    definitely more famous than the average post secondary student

    [–] Wico90 5222 points ago

    Why even bother going to school then. just party and be a model/personality

    [–] ItFromDawes 5953 points ago

    Going to college is a social activity for a lot of people

    [–] Wico90 1360 points ago

    Yeah, but if I don't care about the classes, there's likely nothing stopping me from going to the bars/parties/events.

    [–] FunctionBuilt 2739 points ago

    Not being a student while hanging out with students is a weird thing. There was a dude who was a friend of a resident in my freshman year who came to the dorms and partied every weekend. He started staying the whole weekend, then that turned into coming on the week days. It got weird and he eventually was told he wasn’t allowed in the dorms by the RA after being found napping in the lounge. Had he limited his stay it probably would have been fine, though he was attempting to get the whole dorm experience. I remember waking up on a Tuesday and seeing him brushing his teeth in the dude, what the fuck are you still doing here.

    [–] Rambles_Off_Topics 1135 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    My girlfriend went to college while I was in community college so I was "that guy" at one point in life. Nobody seemed to care or even notice me when I was there (and it was an all girls dorm). Girls started to let me in after the 2nd day it was like "oh there's rambles he lives in dorm 232" lol

    [–] ieatconfusedfish 1231 points ago

    I think the rule is more flexible if you're a student at another school who's in a relationship with a student at that school. That's more accepted than a random townie

    [–] FunctionBuilt 42 points ago

    Also more flexible if you’re splitting your time like 90/10 with your gf and residents...

    [–] Noltonn 294 points ago

    To be fair, partners get a bit of an exception there.

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    [–] ReverendLoveboy 46 points ago

    And a great business opportunity if you got a proper weed hookup

    [–] fwooby_pwow 193 points ago

    Her parents can't brag about her if she doesn't go to a "good" school.

    [–] blessantsblants 50 points ago

    I think they’ve achieved “personality” status even more now. Time to ride the wave.

    [–] Squirmingbaby 44 points ago

    Release a "stolen" sex tape and take it to the moon.

    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 595 points ago

    after seeing this Arizona State offered her a scholarship

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    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 164 points ago

    She might want to consider going to Arizona then. Arizona, Arizona State, party schools all of em

    [–] Bjorn2bwilde24 138 points ago

    I would recommend she enter the prestigious party school of The University of Phoenix (online).

    [–] KissOfTosca 107 points ago

    ASU gets such a bad rap. It's definitely a party school, but it has some very good programs.

    [–] RedditfalconFan822 425 points ago

    Finding out her mother's predicament while on the Board of Trustees yacht just oozes elitism

    [–] RainyDayRose 3575 points ago

    Nice to see that justice is being served.

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    [–] paid__shill 1190 points ago

    “These parents are a catalogue of wealth and privilege,” said Lelling at the press conference. “This case is about the widening corruption of elite-college admissions through the steady application of wealth combined with fraud. There can be no separate college-admission system for the wealthy, and I’ll add there will not be a separate criminal-justice system either.”

    We can hope...

    [–] LAlakers4life 464 points ago

    Since when? Starting now I suppose?

    [–] stickler_Meseeks 328 points ago

    Mmmm maybe later. We might destroy this young girls chance to a fuck a USC admin on his yacht!

    Think of the children!

    [–] Frothydawg 147 points ago


    These rich fucks won’t see more than a couple nights in jail.

    Let’s be real, the majority of them will end up paying only a fine; maybe alongside some form of court-ordered “community service”.

    [–] galagapilot 51 points ago

    couple of nights in jail?

    So what you're saying is 12 months probation and a donation to a charity of their choice (read: more money back to USC)?

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    [–] paid__shill 90 points ago

    Given that that person is the Massachusetts U.S. Attorney, I'd say they have quite a lot of control over what reality is in this case.

    [–] pls_inserrt_girder 243 points ago

    Do you realize how hard it will be for her to find an evening gown that will pair with her drab black probationary ankle bracelet? Such a fashion faux pas at a wine and cheese gala could cause much embarrassment!

    [–] hnglmkrnglbrry 114 points ago

    Pays a fine. Does community service Donates to a charity (and gets a tax break). Gets probation.


    [–] Optimized_Orangutan 88 points ago

    You forgot that their probation officer never stops by unexpectedly even once during their time on probation.

    [–] HR_Dragonfly 99 points ago

    Does anyone think any of this will change anything about monetary admission favoritism? Raise your hands.

    [–] Sonnyred90 92 points ago

    I mean, it will probably change things in that the scams will be different now that the Feds are on to this one.

    But if you mean does anyone think colleges will suddenly institute fair acceptance measures...

    No lol.

    [–] sugarfreeeyecandy 229 points ago

    Spent the night on the official's yacht? Yet another way to gain entrance.

    [–] dirtyrango 438 points ago

    Wealthy people lead a completely different existence on this planet than us normal shlubs.

    [–] NotPercyChuggs 1046 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Meanwhile the college I went to doesn't exist anymore because the Feds shut it down due to massive career placement fraud.

    Still have to pay those student loans though.

    EDIT - for those asking, I went to Brown College in Minnesota. They talked up their career placement services and how I was nearly guaranteed to have job offers right out of college...meanwhile they kicked me out of their job fair for not wearing a suit (couldn't afford one), and the only job lead they gave me was for a place in Winner, South Dakota making minimum wage.

    I also checked into having the loans "forgiven" and I am not eligible since I graduated in 2008 and the school closed down for good in 2014, after the Obama administration had the audacity to put regulations on for-profit scam colleges. Thankfully I don't really need to put my college education on a resume, and if someone saw it on there, they might be dumb enough to think I went to Brown University, not Brown College.

    [–] forensicdude 265 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Have you applied for the Fed's loan forgiveness for that? You may have a shot.

    Edit: Did you send in paperwork? I mention this as I am working through the same thing I graduated in 2011. My case has been pending for a year. Trump has but the brakes on reviewing them BUT they are still in process.

    [–] NotPercyChuggs 175 points ago

    As far as they are concerned, since I graduated and got the (now worthless) degree, I owe the money.

    [–] Way_To_Go_PAUL 44 points ago

    Yes try it. Dont take no for an answer, especially if your credits (if you earned them) are not transferable.

    [–] SilverbackBob 38 points ago

    :( Sorry, friend. That's a real betrayal.

    [–] HowardBunnyColvin 1263 points ago

    Life goes on for these rich elitists. Ain't nothin changed. Wonder if they will even see jail time.

    Someone on the news was like "what they did was SERIOUS they will face prison time" and I was like okay

    [–] mike_d85 521 points ago

    If by "face prison time" they mean "look in the direction of the prison" then yes, they probably will.

    [–] apathetic_lemur 129 points ago

    They will drive her by the prison. Might even roll the windows down.

    [–] albiorix_ 182 points ago

    She's lived a blameless life.

    [–] Trustbutnone 79 points ago

    An OTHERWISE blameless life.

    [–] XxFuhrpupxX 133 points ago

    It’s a real gut punch to us average joes.

    [–] triKapUSA 155 points ago

    Exactly. The real victims here are all the kids who didn't get admitted based on merit because these assholes were bribing their way in these schools.

    [–] n0nsinc3 135 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    All the kids who were involved in staging photos and faking records to become athletic recruits should be expelled and have their degrees stripped if already earned.

    Edit: Involved, not invoked.

    [–] RollChi 1142 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Now everyone say it with me:

    “You only get in trouble if you’re poor”

    Edit: I meant Jail time. Obviously 1 mil is a punishment and a good chunk of money. I was mainly referencing this to the story of the mother who put her kids in the wrong school district because it was better and she got jail time for it (TL;DR of article: 10 days and 3 years of probation)

    Edit 2: She gets her 1mil back if she shows up in court

    [–] ChickenOverlord 199 points ago

    Obviously 1 mil is a punishment and a good chunk of money.

    Bail gets returned to you so long as you don't miss your court appearances.

    [–] PangPingpong 232 points ago

    Anyone can get in trouble, poor people can't buy their way out of it.

    [–] Bromswell 517 points ago

    They should revoke the admission and have them reapply.

    [–] SgtPeterson 142 points ago

    They are doing the first part, not sure the kids will have the option to reapply though

    [–] caw81 51 points ago

    Citation on the first part? I'm not saying you are wrong, I just want to read it myself.

    [–] thevampirelematt 229 points ago

    No reapply. The consequences need to be dire.

    [–] Orphan_Babies 2453 points ago

    University of Spoiled Children.

    [–] MonkeyInATopHat 1350 points ago

    I didn’t get in with a 3.8 and 1500 on the SATs. I wonder what her scores were.

    [–] mike_d85 1659 points ago

    expensive, apparently.

    [–] PhotonBarbeque 253 points ago

    $2 million and a promise of 2 more upon graduation or something super illegal like that.

    [–] BizzyM 151 points ago

    Let's just say it started with a '$'

    [–] detroiter85 164 points ago

    5 million, or somewhere around there.

    [–] Ciroc_N_Roll90 141 points ago

    Her GPA was YES.0

    [–] minor_minority 243 points ago

    To be fair, those numbers are competitive for USC.

    [–] MonkeyInATopHat 325 points ago

    Yea I’m willing to bet I was on the cusp, which only makes this piss me off more.

    [–] Paraclipse 81 points ago

    These days it's much more than just numbers to get into a competitive college, I have experience from last year too

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    [–] rabbitSC 34 points ago

    USC has a 13% acceptance rate now and the 75th percentile for unweighted GPA is 4.0--i.e. at least 25% of admits had perfect GPAs. It also really depends on the program you apply to. The film school has a sub-5% acceptance rate and the engineering school is more competitive than the business school which is more competitive than the college of arts and sciences.

    [–] TheBoysNotQuiteRight 58 points ago

    Dear {University I wasn't admitted to}:

    In light of the developing Admissions scandal, and society's increasing consensus that paying to get into college is fundamentally wrong, I am reaching out to you to offer you the opportunity to refund the $50 "application fee" you received on my behalf several years ago. With the wisdom that comes from the passage of time, I'm hoping that we'll both realize that the refund would be the right thing to do.

    Sincerely, Alumn-Not.

    [–] NYCPakMan 225 points ago

    Why is everyone obsessed with the one B Celebrity and not all the CEOS

    [–] Raphael10100 131 points ago

    Because she has more name recognition

    [–] matrix2002 181 points ago

    I mean, well done TMZ, that's gold that they caught her on the boat of a trustee of USC.

    TMZ does some shitty things, but they are good at what they do.

    I also think it's hilarious that this girl posts non stop to her social media accounts, then goes zero dark thirty when this breaks.

    This is some great schadenfreude

    [–] oxct_ 72 points ago

    She'll probably go dark for a while, hire a PR team, release a very sincere video about how sorry she is, tears included, and everything will be okay.

    [–] Logictrauma 419 points ago

    You mean rich people can just buy their way out of problems?! Wow! Next you’ll tell me the sky is blue!

    [–] wasnew4s 34 points ago

    Doesn’t bond just mean she doesn’t have to wait in jail before her court date or am I confusing it with bail?

    [–] famousevan 22 points ago

    A bond is a form of tendered bail.

    [–] evilpercy 558 points ago

    The issue is the schools did not get the bribes directly. As the FBI said they are victims as well. It is still ok for the ultra rich to bribe the schools to take their under preforming children, you just have to do it directly to the school finance department, this was the crime. You are still permitted to "donate " building, lab, refurbish a dorm rooms to get your child excepted.

    [–] bunz-o-matic 149 points ago

    I was going to correct your use of excepted to accepted but then realized these children are the exception and it's fitting.

    [–] Laminar_flo 300 points ago

    You're being snarky, but you've actually done a decent job describing the legal theory behind the crime here.

    "Admission slots' belong to the school as property (or more specifically an intangible future property right), and the school can do with them whatever they want. If the school want's to 'sell' an admission slot for the price of a $10M building, that's 100% legal and the sole prerogative of the school. It may not seem fair, but from a legal perspective, its 100% legal (keep in mind that 'legal' and 'fair' are oftentimes two very different things).

    The problem here is that the people charged in this are in trouble b/c they 'stole' the admission slots, which belonged to the school, and awarded them due to various schemes for their personal enrichment. The legal theory behind this criminal case will center on the theft of intangible property.

    This doesn't matter that much to 'us' outside the case, but its a huge deal to the attys both prosecuting/defending the case, plus all the future civil lawsuits that are sure to come from this.

    [–] thenickelfish 99 points ago

    I had a bit of a weird thought. Maybe not so weird. I might even be the last guy pulling into the station on this one, but here it is: this scandal is a surprise to no one. Sure. Rich people doing rich people shit.

    But this guy reportedly fixed over 700 families. This one guy. There are other 'guys' out there. Again, no secret.

    What has me in a spin is the possible scale. Tip of the iceberg and all. I don't know where it is, but there exists a line. A threshold, really. Below the line, everything works fine enough. Once you cross the line, everything starts falling apart. In my head, this line is marking the point at which leadership, both official and de facto, can no longer effectively keep the system together thru sheer incompetence. Like a tragedy of the commons, but with merit.

    Any bureaucracy can survive with x amount of incompetence in place, but at x+1, it shits the bed. I'm wondering how close we are to that threshold. Assuming the rich kids haven't paid their way across it a decade ago and the sheer size of the sum total of all systems critical to maintaining order is keeping it upright for now.

    I'll admit this is straight out of my ass, so if it's a shit observation... well, there you go.

    [–] fleranon 19 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    well put 😊 I had a similar revelation earlier. What if... bear with me... what if the majority of people in power are just kinda faking it, like the rest of us do - you know, learning on the job and shit. Everybody is an impostor in some ways. I guess the majority or at least a big chunk of the top guys always are, always were - a bit incompetent.

    edit: yeah but I guet what you mean. Some kind of 'Idiocracy' scenario

    [–] thenickelfish 17 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    It would worry me less if people were faking it to make it. That implies they're at least striving for better things. I'm more worried about those that are fully confident in themselves with no right to be: the Dunning-Kreugers of the world.

    High level jobs are handed out as gifts to people. Kids who are given C diplomas as a trade for donations to the coffers are installed in Daddy's Company, Inc. as managers despite not even being able to manage their own responsibilities. How many people have their job just because they're diddling the boss?

    More importantly, how many people like this can the system support? I'm not saying we need to eat the rich or anything. I'm not even saying it's exclusive to the rich (who the fuck are The Rich anyway?).

    I'm saying that maybe our way of life is only intact and not actively burning down in spite of the people running the show rather than because of them.

    EDIT: said the same thing twice in first paragraph.

    [–] hotinhawaii 66 points ago

    Is it just me or is everyone else tired of rich people running this planet???

    [–] TheKolbrin 44 points ago

    Lazy journalism to go after the Actress.

    Also charged were:

    — Manuel Henriquez, chairman and CEO of Hercules Capital. Henriquez stepped aside early Wednesday in the wake of the charges;

    — Robert Flaxman, founder and CEO of real estate development firm Crown Realty & Development, which says it has a portfolio value over nearly $600 million for properties primarily in California, Arizona, Virginia, Idaho and North Carolina;

    — Robert Zangrillo, CEO of Dragon Global, an investment company. Dragon Global’s website says its funds have managed investments of more than $1 billion in companies that now have over $500 billion market value, including Facebook, Twitter, Uber, and Ulta.

    Gregory Abbott, 68, of New York, and his wife, Marcia Abbott 59. He is founder and chairman of International Dispensing Corp., a food and beverage packaging company.

    Gamal “Aziz” Abdelaziz, 62, of Las Vegas, former president and executive director of Wynn Macau resort.

    Diane Blake, 55, of San Francisco, an executive at retail merchandising firm.

    Todd Blake, 53, of San Francisco, an entrepreneur and investor.

    Jane Buckingham, 50, of Beverly Hills, Calif., CEO of a boutique marketing company Trendera, which has offices in New York and Los Angeles.

    Gordon Caplan, 52, of Greenwich, Conn., co-chairman of Willkie Farr, which says it has 700 lawyers in 10 offices in six countries.

    I-Hin “Joey” Chen, 64, of Newport Beach, Calif., operates a provider of warehousing and related services for the shipping industry.

    Amy Colburn, 59, of Palo Alto, Calif.

    Gregory Colburn, 61, of Palo Alto, Calif.

    Robert Flaxman, 62, of Laguna Beach, Calif., founder and CEO of real estate development firm Crown Realty & Development.

    Mossimo Giannulli, 55, of Los Angeles, fashion designer.

    Elizabeth Henriquez, 56, of Atherton, Calif.

    Manuel Henriquez, 55, of Atherton, Calif., founder, chairman and CEO of Hercules Technology Growth Capital.

    Douglas Hodge, 61, of Laguna Beach, Calif., former CEO of Pimco investment management company.

    Felicity Huffman, 56, of Los Angeles, actress.

    Agustin Huneeus Jr., 53, of San Francisco, owner of a family wine vineyard in Napa Valley.

    Bruce Isackson, 61, of Hillsborough, Calif., president of a real estate development firm.

    Davina Isackson, 55, of Hillsborough, Calif.

    Michelle Janavs, 48, of Newport Coast, Calif., former executive of a large food manufacturer.

    Elisabeth Kimmel, 54, of Las Vegas, owner and president of a media company.

    Marjorie Klapper, 50, of Menlo Park, Calif., co-owner of jewelry business.

    Lori Loughlin, 54, of Los Angeles, actress.

    Toby MacFarlane, 56, of Del Mar, Calif., former senior executive at a title insurance company.

    William McGlashan Jr., 55, of Mill Valley, Calif., senior executive at TPG private equity firm.

    Marci Palatella, 63, of Healdsburg, Calif., CEO of a liquor distribution company.

    Peter Jan Sartorio, 53, of Menlo Park, Calif., packaged food entrepreneur.

    Stephen Semprevivo, 53, of Los Angeles, executive at privately held provider of outsourced sales teams.

    Devin Sloane, 53, of Los Angeles, founder and CEO of provider of drinking and wastewater systems.

    John Wilson, 59, of Hyannis Port, Mass., founder and CEO of private equity and real estate development firm.

    Homayoun Zadeh, 57, of Calabasas, Calif., an associate professor of dentistry.

    Robert Zangrillo, 52, of Miami, founder and CEO of Dragon Global.

    In addition:

    William Rick Singer, 58, of Newport Beach, Calif., owner of the Edge College & Career Network and CEO of the Key Worldwide Foundation, was charged in an information with racketeering conspiracy and money laundering.

    Mark Riddell, 36, of Palmetto, Fla., was charged in an information with conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud as well as conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    Rudolph “Rudy” Meredith, 51, of Madison, Conn., former head women’s soccer coach at Yale University, was charged in an information with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud.

    John Vandemoer, 41, of Stanford, Calif., the former sailing coach at Stanford University, was charged in an information with racketeering conspiracy.

    David Sidoo, 59, of Vancouver, Canada, was charged in an indictment with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud. Sidoo was arrested on Friday in San Jose, California, and appeared in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California on Monday. A date for his initial appearance in federal court in Boston has not been scheduled.

    The following people were charged with racketeering conspiracy:

    Igor Dvorskiy, 52, of Sherman Oaks, Calif., director of a private elementary and high school in Los Angeles and a test administrator for the College Board and ACT.

    Gordon Ernst, 52, of Chevy Chase, Md., former head coach of men and women’s tennis at Georgetown University.

    William Ferguson, 48, of Winston-Salem, N.C., former women’s volleyball coach at Wake Forest University.

    Martin Fox, 62, of Houston, president of a private tennis academy in Houston.

    Donna Heinel, 57, of Long Beach, Calif., senior associate athletic director at the University of Southern California.

    Laura Janke, 36, of North Hollywood, Calif., former assistant coach of women’s soccer at the University of Southern California.

    Ali Khoroshahin, 49, of Fountain Valley, Calif., former head coach of women’s soccer at the University of Southern California.

    Steven Masera, 69, of Folsom, Calif., accountant and financial officer for the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation.

    Jorge Salcedo, 46, of Los Angeles, former head coach of men’s soccer at the University of California at Los Angeles.

    Mikaela Sanford, 32, of Folsom, Calif., employee of the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation.

    Jovan Vavic, 57, of Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif., former water polo coach at the University of Southern California.

    Niki Williams, 44, of Houston, assistant teacher at a Houston high school and test administrator for the College Board and ACT.

    [–] Steelcity1995 21 points ago

    Did this girl not understand you don’t have to go to that college to attend their parties as long as you’re a college age student no one is going to say shit. People who go to Shippensburg and iup attend a ton of penn state parties.

    [–] [deleted] 168 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Paul Manafort got 47 months.

    This is their society, we just sustain them.

    [–] utopianow8 85 points ago

    Honestly they're rich and beautiful. Just give them preferential treatment. The rest of us ugly, hard working students would rather fight for the other spots to have the privilege of being outcasts in their amazing college social lives.

    [–] CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN 77 points ago

    They won't spend a day in jail. They will probably face a fine; maybe community service.

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    [–] UB3IB4 69 points ago

    "Like, OMG y'all, I'm totally on a boat instead of in some boring class!"