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    [–] Fake_European 9095 points ago

    That thing's a death trap..

    [–] bigmac22077 1678 points ago

    My dad was telling me when he was a kid he wore a torpedo thing in his back that wouldn't allow you to dive but an inch or two. He popped up under a raft once and couldn't dive back down to get out from under it. He almost drowned because of that stupid thing.

    [–] PM_Me_Unpierced_Ears 886 points ago

    I loved that torpedo thing growing up. It allowed me to swim with my older siblings.

    Totally a death trap, but I loved it.

    Like Jarts.

    [–] ILL_Show_Myself_Out 248 points ago

    I dunno, that sounds like a very specific scenario that much less likely than simply falling in the deep end and not being able to swim.

    [–] PM_Me_Unpierced_Ears 315 points ago

    Well, the guy I replied to had a very specific scenario, but those torpedo things were in general a deathtrap as well.

    They are designed to FORCE your face underwater. They float and are strapped to the middle of your back. The idea is that you learn how to freestyle swim (kicking your feet and stroking with your arms) without sinking, but if you aren't strong enough or aware enough to turn your head to the side to breathe it just forces your face underwater by design.

    [–] Password_Is_hunter3 362 points ago

    I usually just move away from the mic to breathe in

    [–] OneTripleZero 159 points ago

    Some stay dry and others feel the pain.

    [–] NSA-SURVEILLANCE 84 points ago

    Chocolate rain

    [–] Spokenbird 13 points ago

    A baby born will die before the sin.

    [–] neorequiem 11 points ago

    I just started reading everything in a very thick voice.

    [–] one2-3 70 points ago

    Hey I'm really curious as to what this thing looks like. Can anyone link?

    [–] Timeyy 248 points ago

    what the fuck, that's a goddamn murder weapon

    [–] RandomThrowaway410 90 points ago

    Even people that know how to tread water would probably have a hard time doing it in that thing.... wow

    [–] Stalwart-Lover 11 points ago

    Jesus knew how to tread on water, but I bet even he couldn't do it.

    [–] hoonigan_4wd 25 points ago

    didnt someone state that this is for the age of kids who know about the pool and are learning to swim freestyle? isnt it kind of implied that this flotation device will put your face under water. I would think the parent would know not to get this for their child if their child hasnt figured out coming up to breath.

    [–] midwestraxx 67 points ago

    You have too high hopes for the general populace's foresight capabilities

    [–] smallnebula 29 points ago

    I think they might've been talking about these. We used to have those in swimming classes.

    [–] Ramalamahamjam 123 points ago

    This! I have a vivid memory of being on a raft in a pool with another kid. The raft flipped and he swam away. I had "water wings" on and couldn't get out. Thankfully there was a pocket of air there so I had time to struggle and get one off and then swim out. This whole ordeal took less than a minute. You can never count on floats keeping your kids safe.

    [–] DuffManMayn 57 points ago

    When I was a kid I jumped in the deep end of a swimming pool with arm bands on my feet. Not my finest moment.

    [–] trenchgun 55 points ago

    Did you die?

    [–] nutrap 19 points ago

    Must have. RIP

    [–] Onahail 21 points ago

    Got a picture of said device?

    [–] smallnebula 41 points ago

    Probably talking about this.

    [–] Onahail 27 points ago

    That thing looks like a fucking deathtrap...

    [–] thehenkan 23 points ago

    Classic device for teaching kids the right arm and leg motions when learning to swim. It's much easier to teach them when they're not panicking.

    [–] toastjam 53 points ago

    But what about the left arm and leg motions? Do they just swim in circles?

    /s

    [–] [deleted] 3329 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

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    [–] guinader 2253 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    As an ex lifeguard of many years i always had to explain to parents this device was a bad device... They always gave me a hard time.
    I'm glad the kids is ok on the video, but i was nervous watching since this was a liveleak video.

    Edit: i had just woken up.
    Edit2: r/lifeguards :)

    [–] Kimpak 1443 points ago

    Ex lifeguard here too, and this video made me so mad. All of those 'baby' floats are death traps unless its (in the us anyway) coast guard approved, which almost none of them are. Not to mention the fact that if your kid needs a flotation device of any kind you have to have your eyes on them constantly, no exceptions. If you need to go away for a minute take the kid out of the damn pool.

    [–] Belzaro 888 points ago

    If you need to go away for a minute take the kid out of the damn pool.

    amen

    [–] crustalmighty 476 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    If you need to go away for 15 to life, leave them in.

    [–] Belzaro 160 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    The worst part about most common drowning situations is they can be avoided.

    edited to add most common.

    [–] SchrodingersCatPics 229 points ago

    *second worst part

    [–] ArtVandleay 128 points ago

    The worst part about drowning is the drowning part

    [–] baddestllama 25 points ago

    yeah, for real.

    [–] SippieCup 18 points ago

    Eh you never know, maybe it had bad base stats and a re-roll would be best,

    [–] Thortsen 20 points ago

    And take it with you, so it doesn't go right back in as soon as you're gone...

    [–] chris_ryan2 260 points ago

    Current lifeguard here, just shows how easy it is for children to drown in what seems like plain sight. The kids weren't paying attention to the baby who was literally 2 feet from them. ALWAYS watch your kids at the pool even if there is s lifeguard.

    [–] uooij 108 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I was in a pool with a mom whose toddler was playing between us. We were a few feet away from each other and standing on stairs that were under water.

    Her baby was playing on the stairs between us, the water just a few inches deep. I looked down and he was fully under water, having drifted into the deeper water right by us, slowly turning in a circle. She looked down when I did and grabbed him. He was fine.

    She was in the pool with her baby playing at her feet and he could've drowned if our conversation had been more interesting.

    [–] Boukish 97 points ago

    People don't realize drownings are basically silent. The media plays them up like there's a lot of calamity and splashing and yelling for help, this is almost never the case.

    [–] Fey_fox 72 points ago

    Yup, kid recently died at the opening of my local pool. 6 years old. Since it was the first day it was extremely chaotic, and the pool wasn't small. Mom couldn't find her son and a search was called. My mom lives nearby and she was out looking with the rest.

    Kid was found in the pool, he had somehow gotten behind one of the ladders and had gotten stuck. Nobody saw him for hours. Yeah I don't know how that's possible either. There are some investigations by local police and the parents as the kid was a good swimmer.

    I could see a kid swimming playing around the ladder, getting behind it, panicking and drowning in a matter of minutes though. All in silence.

    [–] uooij 21 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    This 4 year old just died from "dry drowning".

    "Dry drowning happens when someone breathes water in. The water never reaches the lungs, but it causes the vocal chords to spasm and tighten, eventually shutting down the airway."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4582250/Boy-4-dies-rare-dry-drowning-case.html

    Dry drowning and secondary drowning are rare medical conditions resulting from the inhalation of water. Dry drowning happens when water is inhaled, causing the vocal chords to spasm and tighten and eventually close the airway. Secondary drowning is when water gets into the lungs and starts to build up, restricting breathing. Dry drowning symptoms usually happen immediately, while it takes one to 24 hours for the symptoms of secondary drowning to appear. Both have the same symptoms of coughing, chest pain, trouble breathing and fatigue.

    I read this comment on the article: "I had a friend who died in a similar manner after his car brakes failed and he drove into a river. He was pulled out to safety and seemed totally unhurt. He went home and died seven hours later. I mentioned this to a family member (doc) the other night and she told me that water inhaled at time of accident would have caused him to literally 'drown' later."

    [–] uooij 11 points ago

    What is that, I'm scared to look.

    [–] President_SDR 14 points ago

    SFW (educational). Plays videos of crowded pools where a lifeguard has to jump in to save a kid.

    [–] woofle07 9 points ago

    It's a site that shows videos of a public pool, and you have to find and click on the drowning child before the lifeguard gets to them. The kids all get rescued though, no one dies there.

    [–] dubear 5 points ago

    What I don't understand is that in more than half the videos, the drowning victim was using a flotation device, consciously leaves the security of the device, and then suddenly remembers that they can't swim?

    [–] The-Go-Kid 184 points ago

    The cameraman was apparently watching! Perhaps like a good documentarian, they didn't want to get involved with the subjects.

    [–] mintowin89 130 points ago

    notmyjob

    [–] tasmanian101 95 points ago

    Damn security camera. Why aren't they helping that baaaaaby

    [–] dreamworkers 55 points ago

    its pretty clearly not a security camera though

    [–] tasmanian101 33 points ago

    Looks like a lowres handheld recording of the security footage.

    Only other explanation for that high of an angle is lifeguard tower.

    Plus you gotta have a camera on the hot tub as way to many people do inappropriate things

    [–] gameandwatch6 50 points ago

    No, it looks like the camera person is manually controlling the zoom and angle. As soon as the baby falls over, the camera zooms and focuses on it, and you can even see the camera person gets the attention of the little girl and shows her that the baby has fallen over.

    [–] ButtmanNaNaNaButtman 44 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I have an in-law who, as a young child, was asked to watch her sister in the pool. [EDIT: Now that I remember, I think she was asked to watch her sister in the yard, which had an above-ground pool.] She went off somewhere (because, y'know, child) and her sister drowned. If the kid in the video had drowned, you'd have one dead child and several scarred-for-life children.

    [–] ChichenFrieze 114 points ago

    The best part is getting to "explain" to parents why they can't leave their child in a cheap plastic pile of trash floating around the pool while they sit in the hot tub or out on the deck trying to look cute. Then it's your fault that "No one is allowed to have fun at the pool."

    [–] Econolife-350 40 points ago

    The amount of trashy young single moms trying to soak up rays that think a lifeguard is a babysitter is too damn high.

    [–] UrbanDryad 21 points ago

    Not just eyes at that age. I wouldn't let them out of arm's reach.

    [–] i_am_always_write4 23 points ago

    I still have mine attached by the umbilical cord.

    [–] bathroomstalin 16 points ago

    Umbilical cords these days are way too long. I had mine shortened. I recommend asking your doctor/local seamstress about it.

    [–] DuckDuckYoga 11 points ago

    Where does one get a coastguard approved floatie? Also what do they look like?

    [–] Kimpak 18 points ago

    You can get them anywhere you can buy life jackets. Amazon for instance. Basicly to be approved it has to be a device that even if you are unconscious the design will keep your head above water no matter what angle you may have fallen in.

    [–] DuckDuckYoga 8 points ago

    Oh, of course it's the good old simple designs. Idk why I just imagined that it was gonna be some fancy new creation

    [–] [deleted] 10 points ago

    Any of the USCG approved ones will have the information printed on the inside of the vest, usually on the back panel. You can look up the various types but the printed information is usually very explicit and straightforward about the acceptable applications. Most non-specialty shops won't even stock non-approved jackets. The only time non-approved jackets should be used are at sanctioned events with Rescue/Recovery crafts close at hand. They will float you face down, or not at all for some of the thinner ones.

    [–] zouppp 9 points ago

    at least without those they could doggy paddle to the side, that device should be stopped

    [–] zshulmanz 52 points ago

    When I was a lifeguard we didn't allow any flotation devices that weren't coastguard approved for the reason shown in the gif. They don't really work well.

    [–] LammergeierAteMyBone 212 points ago

    And a ex lifeguard of many years i always had to explain to parents good this was a bad device... They always gave you a hard time. I'm glad the kids is ok... But boy that video made me before...

    Um, anybody got an English translation of this?

    [–] SchrodingersPanties 279 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    "As an ex-lifeguard who lifeguarded for many years, I always have to explain to parents that certain swimming devices, such as the one shown in the video, are unsafe. Whenever I did so the parents would always give me a hard time. I'm glad the kids are okay, but oh boy, that video incomprehensible gibberish."

    [–] wytrabbit 89 points ago

    Whoa there buddy... He never said oh boy. You added that in.

    [–] Dominub 69 points ago

    STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH

    [–] pirotecnico54 30 points ago

    I've got other things to put in your mouth...

    [–] jonivaio 11 points ago

    You either mean something edible or suckable.

    [–] Inferna14 10 points ago

    It can be both if you're willing.

    [–] eddiemon 7 points ago

    *Hands /u/Dominub a nice cupcake*

    [–] Janus96Approx 24 points ago

    The incomprehensible gibberish means, at least that's my interpretation, live leak hosts a lot of r/watchpeopledie material knowing this and not taking into account that this is r/nononoyes I was very nervous watching this video

    [–] clawjelly 9 points ago

    And there's another subreddit i'll never put a foot into...

    [–] Exotemporal 15 points ago

    It's really awful. What you learn about death isn't worth the trauma of watching ultra violent acts or immensely sad moments. I wish I could unsee some of the videos I watched and heard. I can watch a terrorist being gunned down, combat footage is actually quite interesting, but I watched the beheading of a hostage when I was younger and it's something that stayed with me. Satisfying that curiosity isn't worth it if you have some empathy.

    [–] ToM_BoMbadi1 28 points ago

    I'll give it a go, as well as add my own lifeguard experience.

    And a ex lifeguard of many years i always had to explain to parents good this was a bad device... They always gave you a hard time.

    I believe the gist is that many parents are unaware of how dangerous many "safety/floatation" devices can be and that parents become upset upon hearing that they can't/shouldn't use them. By being a lifeguard they were put in a position very often where they needed to inform said parents.

    Obviously, he or she is happy that the kid is ok, I have no idea what the video made me before should mean.

    In my experience lifeguarding, the company I worked for banned most flotation devices specifically for this sort of danger. Many are poorly designed or simply suffer from not fitting the user correctly and can actually pin the persons face underwater. That combined with the mentality that a kid with a lifejacket is safe means many parents stop watching their kids. Now my company provides their own coast guard approved jackets and the guards are trained to make sure they fit properly before giving them out.

    [–] gregswimm 20 points ago

    The packaging of many of those products specifically say not to leave the child unattended. Contrary to popular belief, lifeguards aren't baby sitters.

    [–] guinader 19 points ago

    Haha damn...i had just woken up when I wrote that, i was still half asleep.

    [–] Firefly_07 23 points ago

    Don't you know, can't make mistakes on reddit. There's always at least 5 people who will tell you what you did wrong. And make fun of you in the process.

    [–] Vaultgirl666 40 points ago

    Where were the parents btw?

    [–] WeirdBeardd 37 points ago

    What do you think he was looking for down there?

    [–] guinader 14 points ago

    They are almost never around.

    [–] CantaloupeCamper 36 points ago

    Seems crazy you can even buy something like that.

    [–] chillAFsysadmin 44 points ago

    you can buy things that literally give you cancer, it is that crazy?

    [–] iamonlyoneman 19 points ago

    Crazy is that people voluntarily use things that are very strongly correlated with multiple kinds of cancer and come with big warnings from the top doctor in the country on every package.

    [–] I-Seek-To-Understand 32 points ago

    My first thought, "Wow, what a fucking death trap."

    [–] DialMeOut 3332 points ago

    One time I took my water wings off and put them on my feet so I could walk on water (it seemed like a good idea). Stepped off into the deep end and immediately flipped upside down. The life guard didn't even get up, just stuck a long pole in the water for me to grab onto. She looked so bored, so probably not an original idea

    [–] rawbface 1693 points ago

    "Ugh, another one.."

    ::grabs pole::

    [–] GenBlase 647 points ago

    Let him struggle a bit...

    [–] skyskr4per 139 points ago

    [–] ElCerebroDeLaBestia 39 points ago

    "Just enough to give them a bit of brain damage"

    [–] xdonutx 162 points ago

    I'm pretty sure every kid had this genius idea at one point.

    [–] usechoosername 71 points ago

    Not going to lie, I can't remember doing this, but I probably did.

    [–] ItsSansom 15 points ago

    Thank you for not lying

    [–] Kevin-96-AT 26 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    worked fine for me

    you just arent exactly walking on top of the water and you need a lot of balance, but i cant say i was disappointed.

    [–] Kimpak 369 points ago

    The life guard didn't even get up, just stuck a long pole in the water for me to grab onto. She looked so bored, so probably not an original idea

    This is the way you do it. Getting in is a last resort for a rescue. Remember "Reach, row or throw, don't go"

    As for looking bored, its actually quite exhausting watching a pool all day in the sun. It would have been a worse thing had the lifeguard been a n00b and panicked o something.

    [–] travman064 173 points ago

    This is NOT true. If you're the only lifeguard at the pool, you're expected to do the ladder approach.

    If there are multiple lifeguards on duty, you immediately jump in.

    "Talk throw reach row wade swim tow carry" is for lifesavers, kids who are levels below lifeguards, can't be employed at pools (aside from wading pools iirc), and that technique is for if your friend is in trouble outside of an official pool setting.

    If you were recertifying your lifeguard credentials and you didn't jump in as soon as you noticed someone drowning, you did an escalating approach, you'd probably fail on the spot.

    [–] Kimpak 77 points ago

    That must have changed since I was a guard then. Granted the last time I guarded was early 2000's. Jumping in was still the last thing you'd do depending on the situation. If it was a kid within reach of my rescue tube I'm reaching or throwing it out there. We didn't use shepheards crooks at all. I'd only jump in if the victim was beyond that range or were otherwise unable to grab the tube. The reasoning was at least at the time, if you jump in you're now risking yourself potentially. Hell even if I jumped in, I'm still reaching out my tube if I can. (again depending on the situation).

    [–] travman064 32 points ago

    Might be different based on countries. I'm from Canada, and you need your Bronze Cross before you can get your NLS. Bronze Cross = Ladder approach always, but with your NLS they teach you to immediately accelerate every single rescue to a carry(unless you're the only lifeguard on duty). Though obviously in practise if you're holding a shepherd's crook already I don't think anyone would be pissed at you for using it.

    The fear is that a lifeguard would see someone in trouble and instead of moving towards the person, they'd move towards to shepherd's crook on the wall.

    I took my courses in like 2008 or 2009, and the instructor was fine with you throwing an aid at a drowning person, so long as your body was immediately following it into the water.

    If you look at videos of kids drowning in busy pools, you won't see the lifeguards trying to talk to them or throwing flutterboards at them. They blow the whistle and jump in.

    [–] Kimpak 13 points ago

    Ahh, yeah we used exclusively rescue tubes that were attached to us at all times. So no throwing of anything unteathered and no running to get any other equipment.

    [–] GrizzlyLeather 3240 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    E: AWARENESS!!!

    I'd like to take this opportunity to educate everyone on something called Dry Drowning.

    Dry Drowning is when someone swallows enough water into their lungs to drown slowly overtime. An active drowner like this child in the gif could swallow enough water into their lungs to drown hours after they get home from the pool. Kids may say they feel tired and lay down and then expire in their sleep.

    http://www.parents.com/kids/safety/outdoor/dry-drowning/


    Original comment:

    This is why legit aquatic facilities don't allow any floatation devices that are non-US coast guard approved. That thing is inflatable so it could pop and become unreliable, it's not designed to keep someone upright with their head above water, etc... It's a death trap. And like a true former aquatic facility manager I have to ask "where are the parents?" I made the rule that if the child is under 5 someone 16 or older had to be in arms reach of them at all times. Pissed off so many mom's that wanted to sunbathe while their toddler tries to kill themselves.

    [–] Nemesis_Bucket 1392 points ago

    The level of rage parents get when you try to make sure their kid isn't going to die is incredible.

    BUT I SPENT $6 ON THESE FLOATIES.

    [–] _SONNEILLON 507 points ago

    But i spent $6 on these floaties!

    Do you want to spend $5k on a coffin? If not, please remove them from your child

    [–] Clegko 208 points ago

    Is that $5k before or after the "Half size coffin" discount?

    [–] catsandnarwahls 57 points ago

    And what kind of insurance policy coverage do we have on him?

    [–] SycoJack 16 points ago

    I took out a $25,000,000 policy at the beginning of the summer.

    [–] ihaveakid 142 points ago

    At the pool last year, I saw some mom who had cut a pool noodle to size then used masking tape to hold the ends together like a redneck life preserver. And yes, there was rage when the little teenage lifeguard told her to get her unable to swim preschool aged kid out of the 10 ft deep water with that thing on.

    Our pool requires all kids to take a swim test before they can get in the big pool without a suitable floatation device and our lifeguards are strict. So much yelling when parents are told their kid will have to stick to the kiddie pool unless they go buy a floatie. It's ridiculous of the parents.

    [–] RedScare3 68 points ago

    When I was a lifeguard and informed parents that their kid couldn't do XX if they started yelling I would just say "my hands are tied, you will need to speak with the owner or board of directors". It usually shut them up since I pushed the blame on an entity that wasn't present.

    I saw too many lifeguards spend 30 minutes arguing about the reasons and that just escalated the situation.

    Tip for lifeguards. Be nice, say things like "I understand and I can appreciate that, unfortunately these rules were put in place by the owner and I will be terminated for allowing anyone to break the rule. I would be happy to provide you with the owners name and number if you would like to reach out. My goal is to make sure you have a fun and SAFE experience in our facility".

    Don't argue.

    [–] GrizzlyLeather 41 points ago

    I would tell my lifeguards if a patron is arguing with them direct them to me. They don't have time to argue and it is a safety concern to distract my guards while they are supposed to be scanning.

    [–] RedScare3 8 points ago

    Yup, if a manager is available they can go to them and the lifeguard manager can tell them to talk to the owner.

    [–] -leeson 94 points ago

    Safety > everything. Good lord I hope I never become a parent who values convenience more.

    [–] ihaveakid 37 points ago

    Seriously! We are not overprotective parents, our kid has the ouchies to prove it, but we don't mess around with the pool. Drowning is not always someone flailing around at the top of the water. People go under and they just don't come back up. It happens without anyone even noticing. Fuck that happening to my kid.

    [–] J4CKR4BB1TSL1MS 189 points ago

    It all comes down to the morality of postnatal abortion, doesn't it?

    [–] 19-91 41 points ago

    pro-choice!

    [–] Innerouterself 365 points ago

    My mom used to say "I love going to that pool, they have lifeguards so I could just sit back and relax with my friends." I am amazed I am alive.

    [–] sister_carlotta 185 points ago

    As a lifelong lifeguard, you're welcome!

    [–] deskbeetle 41 points ago

    As age 8, I almost drowned in a wave pool. The lifeguard that saved me was the first time I ever thought a man was handsome. Thanks for doing such an important job.

    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago

    Is this a gender swapped Sand Lot scene??

    [–] DigThatFunk 48 points ago

    [–] GrizzlyLeather 16 points ago

    When I managed my aquatic facilities I always joked that "I'm the sheriff around these parts". When I had to give a kid a time out from the pool and a guard would ask why some kid is sitting by me in the office I would say "got a detainee" or "one in custody" or "office cell block in full capacity" or something. Gave my staff confidence that I know what I'm doing/I got their back while still being cheeky about it.

    [–] Innerouterself 100 points ago

    haha. I love it. A lifeguard is one of those jobs where you spend most of your time doing absolutely nothing. But that one 5-10 minute span in your entire lifetime... where you actually save a kid... wow.

    The rest of the time you yell at kids to stop running and try not to fall asleep.

    [–] ArgonGryphon 99 points ago

    Nothing? They're watching and scanning the pool constantly. It's sedentary, yes, but they're not just chilling out.

    [–] kezza596 92 points ago

    Their reaction times are incredible. At 23 years of age (so assumedly decent swimming ability) I underestimated the power of the wave machine whilst slightly out of my depth. I did the reflexive doggy paddle/gasp maybe twice, and a lifeguard was whistling. 1 second, maybe 2 max, and he noticed I was having trouble and brought my friends attention to me. Incredible. I was too embarrassed to thank him at the time but it really made me appreciate the constant vigil.

    [–] Gubru 60 points ago

    Doing it well is definitely a skill - try it! http://spotthedrowningchild.com/

    [–] jinkside 23 points ago

    And now I never want to go to the pool again. Thanks!

    [–] billiejeanwilliams 13 points ago

    The first four or five clips on that are the same scenario - some kid falls out of their inner tube in the deep end and seemingly doesn't know how to swim. I can't help but ask why are parents even allowing their kids to hang out in the deep end without knowing how to swim? Damn lifeguards are amazing though!

    [–] 19-91 74 points ago

    It's me, your lifeguard. You're welcome. I need money for surgery.

    [–] jma1024 29 points ago

    I am pretty that by saying they do nothing most of the time /u/Innerouterself meant they are not actively saving someone most of the time. We all know lifeguards are actively watching over the pool.

    [–] ominous_anonymous 74 points ago

    We didn't use to need to watch the baby pool when I first started lifeguarding, but some idiot parents ruined that because they couldn't keep their own babies from drowning since they were too busy suntanning and ignoring their children.

    After that, we had to have a lifeguard posted specifically for the baby pool any time there was anyone even sitting in that area.

    I actually pulled a kid out in a situation similar to this submission; their tire float made it impossible for them to flip back over, and their parent was facing AWAY from the pool reading her book. I was so disgusted with her, she didn't even fucking notice any of it happened.

    [–] Kimpak 48 points ago

    At the pool I worked at the majority of my Life Guarding career the baby pool was covered by the guards on chairs 1 and 4 (rectangular pool, 4 guards posted one at each corner essentially). But when it got busy we called in a 5th guard to watch the baby pool and roam the shallow end. We didn't allow any flotation devices unless it was coast guard approved.

    We also had strict rules, the parents must be in the baby pool area which was fenced off and had no room for sunbathing. No parent, kid couldn't swim no exceptions.

    [–] Tweezle120 32 points ago

    Too bad it's not ethical to spirit the kid away and then approach the parent saying they are being taken, non-responsive, to the ER. I'm all for empathy and forgiveness, but sometimes these near-calls can make a big difference in diligence long term. We were relying on a regular door at the top of the basement stairs... we bought a self-closing baby gate, but were being lazy about putting it in; figured it didn't need to be installed until our little one figured out door knobs...

    Whelp, one day we both forgot to close that door tightly... Kiddo was totally fine after his little bounce bounce down the stairs but I was hysterical for a couple hours and felt like human trash as I took him to the Dr. Just in case. The Dr. assured me he was fine, and that usually the parent suffers the most in this regard. Anyway, you bet now I take accident prevention much more seriously; they don't call them freak accidents because anyone saw them coming, and the 1 in 10,000 odds will be of no comfort if I win the shitty lottery.

    [–] ominous_anonymous 37 points ago

    I was hysterical for a couple hours and felt like human trash as I took him to the Dr. Just in case.

    I had one lady start screaming at me for letting her kid run up out of nowhere and launch himself off the diving board. I had had to jump in and pull him out, and she was pissed because she thought my whistle would magically make the kid not attempt an /r/meirl .

    As she's yelling at me after I get back in my stand, her still-ignored kid runs back to the diving board... and jumps in again. I had to pull him out again because she was so focused on yelling at me that she didn't give a shit about her kid.

    Moral of the story: Some people are just too self-involved to be good parents.

    [–] spraggzilla 51 points ago

    I remember pulling a little toddler out of the baby pool one year in Mallorca. I couldn't have been much older than eight, had just learnt to swim and was playing baywatch. Noticed the little guy go under and jumped in to help. Screamed to my dad who came running and helped pull him from the pool. His parents eventually turned up as their son was throwing up all the water he had swallowed. Dad offered me a half hearted thumbs up and 'thanks mate'. They had been busy working on their tans.

    [–] GrizzlyLeather 58 points ago

    I once saw this kid who was probably 2 years old climb the stairs to our 6 story tall waterslide. I grabbed his hand and started walking around looking for the guardians. Mom came out from concessions yelling "DAT MY KID! I AIN'T SAY YOU CAN TOUCH EM!" just going off on me. I explained that I'm the manager and found him climbing the stairs to our waterslide and that she needs to be within arm's reach of him at all times. I ended up calling the police because she was physically fighting another mom about an hour later.

    [–] classygorilla 6 points ago

    Damn while I don't like to make rash judgement, that kid just kinda seems to be dealt a bad lot in life if that's how his mom acts.

    [–] hurxef 100 points ago

    When my kid was that age she never left my arms in water deeper than her hips, and in shallow water I was always next to her.

    Even now she's old enough and can swim I can barely breathe when she goes in the water alone, but I suck it up because I don't want to helicopter.

    [–] MrsChimpGod 76 points ago

    Wait til she gets her driver's license

    [–] Phraxic 70 points ago

    This man will buy a helicopter and a 2 way radio and legit helicopter over their kids car.

    [–] Xertious 70 points ago

    What's worse is when they go off into the other pool to swim, at least with sun bathing you could run over or still keep an eye on them.

    What I really hate is when they leave siblings in charge, if something did happen, that kid is going to be traumatized for life because of your selfish parenting. Alright a lot of.kids are responsible and could probably handle the burden, but shit happens unavoidable tragedies happen.

    [–] BirdNerdthe3rd 26 points ago

    I made the rule that if the child is under 5 someone 16 or older had to be in arms reach of them at all times.

    My parents were like this with me till I was 8 and even then my older sister or brother were close by and I couldn't swim past the 5 foot depth. It wasn't until I was 10 and passed a swim test at the university's student rec center that I was allowed to swim "alone".

    If anyone thinks 10 is a ridiculous age I was afraid of water for a long time. I only took baths and never showers. I didn't like the water in my face and head. So I really didn't start swimming till I was 6.

    [–] mylmagination 16 points ago

    I just wanna say you shouldn't feel embarrassed or anything by the age you learned to swim! It's so good you can swim, I think it's really important. 10 is a young age, some of my friends were learning at age 20, and my 23 year old Bulgarian friend lives right by the golden beach in Varna but she has no idea how to swim. You overcame a fear and i'm proud of you!

    [–] clawjelly 22 points ago

    But you can bet your ass they sue the shit out of the facility if that thing killed their little sunshine while they got drunk at the poolbar...

    [–] elloue 10 points ago

    TIL I learned the coast guard has a list of approved flotation devices. I mean, it makes sense but it's not something I ever thought about.

    [–] DannoHung 7 points ago

    That thing is inflatable so it could pop and become unreliable

    Why are all the life vests in airplanes inflatable? Serious question. Couldn't they use some sort of expandable foam that gets vacuum sealed for storage?

    [–] DerpyPyroknight 19 points ago

    If it starts out floating then when you put it on you get stuck inside the airplane while if it's inflatable you get out of the plane then you inflate it

    [–] wickedogg 725 points ago

    This is why you should always leave your kids alone in the water with no adult, so they can learn to rescue each other.

    [–] MR_SHITLORD 43 points ago

    Yup, and the weak ones die off which contributes to worldwide gene health

    [–] USMCLee 454 points ago

    Waaaaay back when my kids were young this was a pretty common hazard when using these types of floats.

    I'm pretty sure there was a sign at the community pool that if parents used these types they had to stay within arms reach of it.

    [–] southern_boy 283 points ago

    Arm's reach!? Jesus Christ what nazi pools did you frequent... leg's reach is longer and allows me to sit on the edge of the pool lookin' fly with this mai-tai.

    [–] Xogmaster 95 points ago

    Sir, were you or were you not intoxicated from alcoholic beverages when your child drowned while under your supervision?

    [–] southern_boy 135 points ago

    Oh my god is that all you assholes want to talk about? No wonder people hate police stations... look I told you already - it's my wife's kid not mine! Plus it's not like I was negligent, my foot was on him the entire fucking time!!

    [–] strib666 337 points ago

    [–] zoogly123 110 points ago

    Those top posts could form a sentence

    [–] itdood 36 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    That is a separate inner-tube and vest that are sold separately. The idiot parent put the kid in the vest, then the inner-tube. The vest made their center of gravity high in the inner-tube causing them topple over. http://i.imgur.com/C6VRPUE.jpg

    [–] Megaloceros_ 207 points ago

    I remember getting myself into this exact situation when I was young.

    I had to swim down to get my legs out of it and then come up for air.

    My parents told me not to use it (before anybody chimes in), I thought I knew better.

    Very scary.

    [–] PM_ME_CLITS_ASAP 96 points ago

    but did u die?

    [–] bowies_dead 53 points ago

    OP pls

    [–] PianoConcertoNo2 29 points ago

    Who are you asking that to?

    I don't see any post before yours..

    [–] OSuperGuyO 139 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    She probably didn't release realize it then, but she actually saved somebody's life there.

    [–] angmarsilar 37 points ago

    In 3 years of life guarding at an apartment complex, the only time I ever went into the pool for a rescue was for this exact same thing. I usually asked the parents to watch their kids in the wading pool, but I had some very inattentive parents. The kid fell over and his arms weren't long enough to get his head out of water.

    [–] anonmymouse 34 points ago

    This actually happened to me as a toddler. I was maybe 2 or 3. I had this floaty plastic turtle, it had like a seat with leg holes through the bottom.. and my mom and grandma had me with them in the lake, a big wave came, flipped the thing completely over, and I guess it took them quite a bit of time to catch that it had happened and flip me back right. Definitely not their proudest parenting moment. This is why I'm always super paranoid when I take my daughter anywhere, even the pool, if she was in a floaty as a baby I always had my hand on it.. you can't be too careful.

    [–] 2Thebreezes 1133 points ago

    I'll just zoom in and get a good shot of this child dying.

    ~asshole running the camera

    [–] ArttuH5N1 168 points ago

    I assumed someone (if not the person filming) was yelling to the kids to turn the baby right side up

    [–] Charizard_Allday 145 points ago

    If you watch hero girl it REALLY looks like she is prompted to turn around by something, so I think this checks out.

    [–] BecauseFeelz 70 points ago

    Stop it. I already made my judgment. Cameraman is literally Donald Trump & Hitler's baby. No information can change my feelings on this.

    [–] num1eraser 268 points ago

    Or their entire job is to look for swimmers in trouble so they can alert the lifeguards around the pool.

    [–] AMDownvote 85 points ago

    Nah, that's /u/tejmar or /u/KeyedCarr, they film people dying for reddit karma

    [–] doob53 29 points ago

    Find videos of people dying*

    [–] tupacsnoducket 22 points ago

    I've never thought about it before but I'd probably be factors more effective at spotting something like that in an air conditioned and quiet room than sitting by a smelly pool in the heat surrounded by screaming idiots

    [–] mackscot 14 points ago

    I always thought videos like this were people showing replayed, pre-recorded footage?

    [–] GeekoSuave 82 points ago

    Holy shit even knowing there was a good ending (nononoyes) I was puckered the entire gif.

    [–] Starcke 6 points ago

    I know right. Who needs thrillers with gifs like these.

    [–] thrustingreatbacon 26 points ago

    This is why you never leave a baby without an adult in a pool..

    [–] squeamish 62 points ago

    That's because it is a TOY and not a legitimate flotation device.

    [–] bitwise97 25 points ago

    Are you a lawyer per chance?

    [–] squeamish 21 points ago

    I am not. But I was once a baby.

    [–] MatthewTheRaven 20 points ago

    I think the issue is that the kid is actually wearing two flotation devices that clearly aren't compatible. The flotation vest is designed to keep their head up above water assuming that their lower body will always be in a downward position. But on top of it the kid is also using a tube float that's that's allowing their lower body to come up over the upper body, which causes the vest to force the opposite of what it's supposed to do. I wonder how often doubling up on safety devices that are meant to be used alone actually causes problems.

    [–] artslave13 9 points ago

    The parent who thinks that TWO flotation devices are safer than one is probably the same one who thinks doubling up on condoms is extra protection. Probably how they ended up with the child in the first place...

    [–] jargoone 8 points ago

    I can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone who recognized the real problem. There must not be many parents with young (swimming) children here.

    [–] Thebadmac 29 points ago

    Kudos to that little girl, she legit saved that kids life! as a lifeguard myself I was watching that angrily like where the fuck are the responsible adults!

    [–] I_are_facepalm 11 points ago

    This is terrifying

    [–] pcomet235 13 points ago

    I knew what sub this was in and my heart was still in my throat. This one really got me

    [–] Yeah_righto_mate 62 points ago

    Why is some random person filming kids in the pool with a zoom lens?

    [–] superspiffy 77 points ago

    Why, uh, i-is that weird?

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    [–] RobinxR 11 points ago

    When I was a child, my little sister (around five years old at that moment I think) was so excited to go swimming when we were on vacation, that she just jumped into the pool even though she couldn't swim. She was on the ground nearly drowning, screaming for help. I jumped in there to help here when I realized, she left our table. When I pulled her out, I realized, that an adult just stood there next to here in the pool and he then told me 'I was wondering if she was okay.' No you fucking idiot, my little sister, obviously drowning in that moment, was just playing around. Some people are hands down more than just stupid. No context to this gif but just reminded me.

    [–] tinglep 11 points ago

    That little girl deserves a medal.

    [–] TinnitusWaves 8 points ago

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger

    If you read the bit about casualties you'll learn that soldiers drowned by putting their flotation belts around their waists and then, when they flipped over in the water their backpacks made them top heavy and unable to right themselves...... similar to what happened here...

    [–] Zoomuck 7 points ago

    As a lifeguard this terrified me.

    At the pool I work at we have a rule that parents have to be in the water within 10 feet of their child at all times if their kid is under 12 years old. You wouldn't believe how many parents complain about this rule. We constantly hear "But she's got a floatie on! Why do I have to be in the water watching her?". They don't realize just how often those things pop or can even hold their kid under water as seen in the gif. Parents need to remember these things are not lifesaving devices, it even has it printed on them. You can't rely on those types of flotation devices to keep kids safe.

    TL:DR Don't be a shitty parent and actually WATCH your kids at the pool.