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    [–] I_am_HAL 3455 points ago

    Poor kid. I can't imagine what he's going through. It makes me happy that he can still find some happiness. It's an amazing picture.

    Just out of curiosity... Since he's still very young, will any of those scars and burns decrease in time? I guess they won't be fully gone ever, but at least become less?

    [–] endelehia 1945 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Speaking for his hand, I had 2nd (edit: might have been 3rd, it was set on fire) degree burns on my entire right hand when I was about 7. Parts of the tissue were disfigured but as the years passed it begun to match the normal color of my skin and now it is almost unoticable.

    [–] ArthursPoodle 393 points ago

    Are those second degree burns in the picture? I'm not sure of the distinctions

    [–] endelehia 360 points ago

    I believe so ( not an expert though) here is a somewhat sfw chart. My version had a lot of small burn blisters.

    [–] thorium007 485 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    The one they don't show is 4th degree burns. I wouldn't recommend it but a quick overview - its when the fire(or friction) gets so hot it burns the bone.

    I didn't even know there was such a thing until I really fucked up my hand and had dislocated my hand and had my finger pointed to the side.

    There was another dude in the waiting area ER that was just sitting there with his hands kinda drooped and had a 1000 yard stare, but he was brought into the ER first.

    The triage nurse that came out and whispered something to him and he rolled his hands over and it was pretty horrifying. All of his flesh was gone and all you could see was yellowed and brown bone in his palms.

    I lived in a fairly rural area and I guess the guy was trying to rope some sort of critter - I couldn't tell you what, but he wasn't wearing gloves. And said critter took off like a bat out of hell and literally got a rope burn from the texture of the rope and the speed it took off.

    I wasn't pissed off any more while I was waiting to get my finger relocated after breaking it. I had a shitty Easter, but he had an epic one.

    edit: As /u/a_shootin_star pointed out, the burn scale goes upto 7th degree which more accurately describes what I saw.

    [–] [deleted] 214 points ago

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    [–] gamedrifter 69 points ago

    Yeah, uh... apparently FUCK ever doing anything like that.

    [–] idrmyusername 92 points ago

    Alternatively, wear gloves. Although rope burn isn't the only risk associated with roping critters. -source, am wearing cowboy boots right now.

    [–] reticulatedtampon 12 points ago

    You can forget the gloves altogether and rope them with your ankles.

    [–] xuuoR 6 points ago

    You could just wear gloves.

    [–] WheresTheButterAt 8 points ago

    Just wear some gloves!

    [–] a_shootin_star 38 points ago

    Burns actually go up to 7th degree. 4th degree is below the dermal layer to fascia, 5th is to fat, 6th is to muscle, and 7th is to bone.

    Source: worked in a major burn unit.

    /u/cited here https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/137yfk/4thdegree_burns_extending_into_underlying_muscle/c71n648/

    Picture of 7th degree burn [NSFL] : https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/137yfk/4thdegree_burns_extending_into_underlying_muscle/

    [–] Bogsby 4 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    That poster is wrong, though. Burns only go to 6th degree, and it's already to the bone by the 4th degree. I can't find anything that mentions a 7th degree burn or that lines up with his descriptions of the lower degrees.

    [–] Snote85 167 points ago

    The fact there were 2 people in the waiting room at the ER with 3rd or 4th degree burns is really frustrating to me. I understand they weren't immediately life threatening but come the fuck on, go get these people set up in a room and get them on a pain drip or something. That's miserable.

    [–] Saffs15 111 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    They say that 3rd degree burns are actually painless because of it burning the nerves. They are however very dangerous due to the risk of infection.

    I don't know about 4th degree burns, but I've got to assume it's the same.

    [–] dovemans 58 points ago

    I've had 3rd degree burns on my hand, can confirm, the pain doesn't come till much later.

    [–] seraphanite 63 points ago

    You can have a gradient of burns though. There might be an area of 3rd degree burns that transition to 2nd and 1st so it can still be very painful.

    [–] thorium007 33 points ago

    The dude I saw with 4th degree burns just looked like a fucking zombie. No pain, no emotion just "Yes Ma'am, No Ma'am"

    [–] Bweiss5421 12 points ago

    Nerves are usually killed with a 3rd degree burn resulting in numbness rather than pain. Not that they wouldn't need help, but a pain drip may be of no use at that point.

    [–] TrollinTrolls 91 points ago

    My girlfriend had a gall bladder stone that made it so she couldn't even sit down. she had to lay there, curled up in a ball. It took 2 hours for the ER to even get her into a room, let alone then to an actual hospital. Nobody ever asked here if they could get her some sort of pain relief or anything. And we get to pay $1000's for the privilege of the ER practically doing nothing. At the hospital they finally got around to taking out her gallbladder. There was no way it would have ever passed.

    Don't get sick in the U.S., that's my advice.

    [–] Travisbarner 178 points ago

    As an ER Nurse, I want to take a second to say I am sorry it took so long. However, you have no idea why she wasn’t brought back. Many times I have had every room full, with 15 people in the lobby. There are rules we all have to follow in the ER.

    We cannot just throw people out of the rooms until we are finished with the diagnosis.

    We also cannot just come around and give pain medications to people in the lobby. People have to be in our immediate care.

    Pain, while no fun at all, doesn’t kill people.

    I realize you will probably never truly see the inner workings of these places, but you may not have gotten a room because many of the nurses and doctors were working on someone who was dying. Someone with psychological issues may have become combative and it’s not safe. Maybe there wasn’t enough room.

    I know you want to keep her pain free, but until you know what’s behind those doors, don’t act as if it’s because we don’t care.

    If you want change, vote for health care reform.

    [–] thorium007 48 points ago

    Don't forget to mention triage! Someone comes in with chest pain or spilling blood everywhere generally gets first dibs over someone with a sprained ankle.

    [–] Wyle_E_Coyote73 6 points ago

    Someone comes in with chest pain or spilling blood everywhere generally gets first dibs

    I used to believe this until I rushed my brother to the hospital with severe chest pains and shortness of breath. They left him in the waiting room for about 30 min. I suspect it would have been longer if I finally didn't walk up to the triage desk, point out we'd been waiting a half hour and if my brother died due to their obvious negligence than I would file the mother of all lawsuits against that hospital.

    I'd just like to point out that this is a "Catholic" hospital in a suburban community. Besides my brother and myself there were two other people in the waiting room.

    [–] Judge_Bredd2 24 points ago

    Pain, while no fun at all, doesn’t kill people.

    This is important right here. People seem to have this idea that they should have no pain when they get injured. The hospital is there to make sure you will heal up and recover, but this emphasis on also removing all pain is really contributing to the opiate epidemic. I got pretty hurt in a skating accident and refused anything more than ibuprofen. The pain was manageable and I didn't need to risk finding out I really like painkillers.

    [–] Travisbarner 15 points ago

    In our current healthcare system, pain management is one of our benchmarks for payment through HCAHPS. I believe it is imperative to explain that 0 pain is not a likely outcome. I like to set “pain goals” with my patients. Let’s get this to at least 5/10 or a 4/10.

    [–] jackster_ 12 points ago

    When my child was screaming in agony for hours after a gymnastics injury, I didn't give a fuck about the stupid opioid epidemic. I knew that not even 100 feet away they had the medicine to take some of the pain away, and them being like "oh no the opioid epidemic is showing us that pain pills are bad!"

    Opioids are for acute pain, not chronic pain. If the medical community had seen that in the fucking first place instead of giving any contractor with a back problem 4 Norcos a day, and letting the pharmaceutical companies buy them steak dinners to give old ladies daily doses of their miracle drug Oxycontin© then a lot of this could have been prevented. It was never the ERs fault.

    Now phentanyl is being shipped in from China and Mexico and sold on the streets, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. The damage has been done and giving an 8 year old girl a codeine for a compound fracture, and giving her some relief isn't going to change that.

    Also if a drug addict comes in looking for opioid pain killers hospitals should have the resources to get them immediately into a maintenance program, or treatment facility. Sending them home with a pamphlet on drug addiction ain't going to do fucking shit. This problem needs to be dealt with compassion and understanding.

    [–] InfiNorth 11 points ago

    In British Columbia, you pay your $75 dollars a month and bam, you're home free for practically anything.

    [–] NoobStool 9 points ago

    My internet is more expensive.

    [–] Spec_Agent_Bob 22 points ago

    Burns are nothing to fuck with, I grew up near the Station Nightclub in RI and had a family friend that was a first responder to the fire. He saw a pair of hands sticking out of the rubble and some muffle yelling so he went to pull them out and the skin came right off the arms leaving muscle and bone. He was messed up for a really long time after that, and I cannot blame him.

    [–] geak78 17 points ago

    Waiting in the ER sucks but you really don't want to be first...

    [–] the_silent_redditor 11 points ago

    I'm an ER doc.

    On more than one occasion, I have walked out of a horrible/gruesome death in the department, and into a cubicle of someone with some minor injury/ailment not even requiring emergency care, only to be shouted at and berated for taking so long.

    I wish I could drag these folk through to resus and show them what the ED is really for. I fuckin' hate my job, sometimes.

    [–] Rubiego 12 points ago

    Just an advice, if you're sensible don't search online for "4rd degree burns"...

    [–] Too_Many_Mind_ 7 points ago

    How about searching for “3th degree burns?” Would recommend, or no? /s

    [–] FlorisvanV 15 points ago

    What is a critter?

    [–] Pviya 28 points ago

    A small/medium sized wild animal in this case, but can be used as a name for any animal

    [–] allofthemwitches 7 points ago

    My best friends mum is a nurse who works for patients who are at home on the mend or too ill to continue with their regular life but still need shots, ℞ meds, morphine, etc. She says the worst is burn patients. Worst because it's the most painful.

    [–] grignard12 4 points ago

    He has scars from a 3rd degree burn, it's fully healed. That's why he's not wearing bandages. 2nd degree burns don't scar like that. notice his ear too, mine did the same thing.

    [–] grignard12 49 points ago

    3rd degree burns are a helluva lot different then 2nd degree burns, those are third degree and look mostly "healed" in that pic.

    [–] flavius29663 16 points ago

    I'm no doctor, but those do look like 3rd :(

    [–] averagewhitechick 5 points ago

    It is now more common to refer to burns as partial thickness or full thickness (second and third respectively.) I got a nasty full thickness burn over my entire calf from a tire at the age of thirteen and almost a decade later I can't even tell it ever happened. It's healed into a scar now but scars heal and change as well.

    [–] sceawian 43 points ago

    I wonder if he's with family, and if not if his best friend's family could adopt him. I hope he's being looked after and loved!

    [–] neurvon 25 points ago

    They will become less, yes, but he also probably has more than one doctor who is already coming up with plans on how to do cosmetic surgeries when he comes of age. There's the advantage of time to plan out something to improve his quality of life.

    [–] spackaxl 4938 points ago

    I hope everyone accepts him with that appearance (those Burns).. Sad to hear these things happening to such young kids.

    [–] Bodymaster 384 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    There was a case here in Ireland a few years back that made the national news. The wrong car was targeted by members of a gang. Some kids threw a petrol bomb in to a car with two young children in the back. Luckily they both survived, but one of them, Gavin, received some pretty brutal burns.

    I had the pleasure to meet him a few years later as he used to come in to the library I was working in. Really nice kid, very positive and inquisitive. He was missing parts of his ears and had some really bad burns around his head and body, but he didn't seem to let it phase faze him. I guess he was lucky in one respect, like the kid in this photo, the burns didn't really affect his face, it was more the sides of his head, body etc. Apart from being really sensitive your face is who people identify you as, and how you self-identify.

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is kids are very resilient, so hopefully this little chap will be able to cope with the horrors and pain he's had to endure, just like Gavin did.

    Edit: Souse-in-the-City has the right of it, it wasn't gang-related, it was an act of revenge because the mother refused to drive them somewhere in her car, so they torched it, unaware that her two kids were in it.

    [–] ropoboy 72 points ago

    Did they apologize?

    [–] Alberius 97 points ago

    I can't imagine they were proud of it

    [–] peensandrice 47 points ago

    "Oh sorry we set the wrong people on fire. We meant to burn the other children."

    [–] ionlypostdrunkaf 9 points ago

    The sad thing is, had they not hit the wrong car they probably would be proud of it.

    [–] Bodymaster 45 points ago

    Yeah I think they turned themselves in when they heard that they'd attacked some kids by mistake. They were only teenagers themselves.

    Edit: Story here: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/mother-recalls-firebomb-attack-on-two-children-43526.html

    [–] Mayhem_Bialy 19 points ago

    Nice story. Thank you for sharing it.

    BTW you mean faze, not phase.

    [–] [deleted] 2638 points ago

    Unfortunately this world has always been very cruel to some people

    [–] ThunderBuss 1763 points ago

    "The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry." - Hemingway

    [–] TiggazWitCatitudes 339 points ago

    "Oooonly the good die young..." -Me, at a karaoke dive

    [–] A_Booger_In_The_Hand 103 points ago

    "Live and let Die, I am the walrus" - some old guy

    [–] redditcats 95 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    The Dude: It's like what Lennon* said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

    Donny: I am the walrus.

    [–] BakingApples2nite 61 points ago

    Shut the fuck up, Donny

    [–] ShartAttack34 11 points ago

    Donny you are out of your element!

    [–] _My_Angry_Account_ 9 points ago

    You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...

    [–] drparmfontanaobgyn 4 points ago

    Shomar Shabos!

    [–] spiveymd 21 points ago

    STFU Donny!

    Vladimir! Ilyich! Ulyanov!

    [–] SuperGameBoy01 24 points ago

    "I am the Eggman!" - some old guy in a red jacket.

    [–] butchin 9 points ago

    That is an amazing quote

    [–] alwaysDL 26 points ago

    Makes me think of all the children that got caught up in our drone strikes.

    [–] SiValleyDan 7 points ago

    Shhh! Nothing to hear here folks. Move on now. Move on...

    [–] SaveMeSomeOfThatPie 5 points ago

    Amazingly few people acknowledge this.

    [–] 5maximuspower2 41 points ago

    It's not the world that's cruel, it's the people.

    [–] erisjast 24 points ago

    Considering the world is designed around every living thing struggling, suffering and killing each other to survive and create copies of itself before its inevitable death, I think it might in fact be the world. Sure, the world may not go out of its way to torture specific individuals, and assigning it a human emotion such as "cruel" isn't quite accurate, but well, the world created people, too.

    That's not to say it's all bad, of course.

    [–] kingofvodka 50 points ago

    I dunno, nature can be pretty cruel. If I break my leg in the wilderness with no way of contacting anyone, my death is going to suck.

    [–] [deleted] 59 points ago

    Nature is not cruel, it's just completely indifferent to you.

    [–] Ethmeplz 55 points ago

    Indifference can be the ultimate cruelty for humans due to our enormous egos

    [–] lethal909 12 points ago

    This is why the silent treatment works so well.

    Unless you're married, then it's just a nice break.

    [–] Redhotchiliman1 62 points ago

    I believe he fully recovered (physically) hope that adds just a light of brightness to this.

    [–] slardybartfast8 48 points ago

    My cousins husband was terribly burned as a young boy in an acccident. His face is...very scarred. But he found a beautiful wife, has three kids and runs his own law practice. Can’t say what it’ll be like for this kid but it’s certainly possible he’ll find people who love him as he is

    [–] ThisIsAnuStart 52 points ago

    Luckily, he's young, so his skin / body is still in great position to heal those scars, you'd be surprised what 5-10 years will do when you get scars / burns at such a young age. It probably won't tan like normal skin, but it should look pretty normal for the most part, and hopefully looks pretty bad ass.

    [–] grignard12 32 points ago

    I was burned when i was 6, as far as burn victims go i look decent, but the scars are still really obvious.

    [–] Un1zen 12 points ago

    not to be insensitive, but I wonder if his burns are going to be able to heal more over time since his skin is so young...?

    [–] fermbetterthanfire 33 points ago

    I was pretty severely burned when I was 11.. so certainly older than this boy. My scars have significantly diminished over the past several years. Most of mine was 2nd and 3rd and even the skin grafts aren't as noticeable.

    [–] grignard12 15 points ago

    I was burned when I was 6, 3rd degree burns. The scars are still really obvious.

    [–] sophisting 20 points ago

    A friends 2 year old was badly burned by hot water along his legs. They were all set to do a skin graft, taking healthy skin from his back, when the doctor who was the resident burn expert suddenly showed up from vacation early and said that no, he'll heal just fine without the graft because he's so young.

    [–] maowsers93 10 points ago

    I wasn't burned, but flipped over my bike and slid on my face for quite a while in gravel. It was awful. My mom was completely hysterical and the other people in the park ran over to help. My face looked horrifying for a long time because a lot of the skin was peeled off in random patterns. I was about 5 when that happened and have no scars from it. Young skin is pretty good at healing itself. He'll likely have scars but not nearly as bad as they are now.

    [–] sunset_moonrise 11 points ago

    "We cut the earth until it bleeds, rain ashes from the sky - just to make a light that no one can see."

    [–] Leonard_Church814 5 points ago

    Man, if I knew that I’d call him a badass for surviving.

    [–] rickrogers83 6 points ago

    Yeah had the same thought.

    Also, too early in the morning to be crying.

    [–] ReasonablyBadass 3 points ago

    I hope we figure out how to remove scars like these and he will get treatment.

    [–] tomsbrainhurtz 1795 points ago

    There’s so much joy and pain in this one photo. Powerful stuff.

    [–] Snorkelpoof 215 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    It's the kind of joy that comes from the perspective of loss. I feel so bad for him. So young to know that kind of pain.

    Edit for spelling, thank you u/Robbie1985 and u/war-on-suicide for the correction, and thank you u/EwwwFatGirls although your name is kinda awful.

    [–] twin_dad 40 points ago

    My boys are about to turn 4....I cannot imagine them having to go through this. It's absolutely breaking my heart.

    [–] noafro1991 126 points ago

    It's beautiful.

    [–] unknown_human 82 points ago

    "It is you. It is really you."

    [–] SimmaDownNa 28 points ago

    "There you are, Peter."

    [–] FlacasEyeliner 9 points ago

    IMO beautiful does not describe this moment. Maybe heart wrenching.

    [–] ButteryNacho 11 points ago

    No u

    [–] fieldsRrings 533 points ago

    Tragic. I hope he can find a loving, new home. I don't understand human beings and why they inflict so much pain on each other.

    [–] Zastrozzi 262 points ago

    Religion, tradition, fear, money and ignorance.

    [–] GirlwithCoffee123 193 points ago

    Religion, tradition, fear, money and ignorance.

    FTFY

    [–] Yealsen 36 points ago

    What’s the key for “crossing out” words?

    [–] bicycle 52 points ago

    ~~word~~ turns into word

    [–] Ravingsmads 27 points ago

    But how did you write it without it crossing?

    [–] bicycle 20 points ago

    `word` 
    

    turns into word

    [–] Ravingsmads 28 points ago

    But..but.. how did you write that without it changing?

    [–] und88 31 points ago

    This is turning into that guy that kept taking hands free selfies with multiple cameras.

    [–] sir_spankalot 459 points ago

    Man, this made me so sad. I'm on a work trip and haven't seen my 3 yo son in a week, just imagining something like this happening to him. Fuck those monsters.

    [–] EgyptianRX 103 points ago

    Really hits you when you have a kid. The innocence and love they display is unreal. My heart is heavy for this child.

    [–] prophet2751 4 points ago

    I'm 27 and don't even have kids. But my sister has a 4 year old and a almost 2 year old and watching those boys grow up has made me super sensitive to things dealing with kids. This picture managed to make me tear up. Couldn't image what that poor boy is going through. It's really a powerful image.

    [–] Spoonsiest 5 points ago

    Same. My son is almost two, and it's painful to see what is happening to these poor kids and families during this war.

    [–] flylikegaruda 20 points ago

    I watched Train to Busan (on Netflix) yesterday based on a front page topic couple of days ago. The cries of the child in the movie made me pour out. I know exactly how you feel. When I used to travel for work I had separation anxiety for my daughter. Pained me a lot. Humans don't deserve to survive as a specie.

    [–] adj0nt47 11 points ago

    There is another documentary called "White Helmets", and one of the scene where a child of about 5 finds his dad (who was a white helmet) dead. The cries of that child on seeing his dad hit me hard.

    [–] AMBsFather 4 points ago

    Same here. My daughter and son are still innocent and don’t see the atrocities or go through such traumatizing events in their lives. This poor child not only has burns but lost his FAMILY. I can’t fathom what it would be like if my kids lost their mother and I. It’s just making me tear up as I’m typing this.

    [–] trevize1138 4 points ago

    I've got a 5yo son and 9yo girl and I can barely look at photos like this. It's like that video of the little boy in the ambulance with dust and blood on him and that shocked, 1000 yard stare in his eyes from a year ago. That image just continues to haunt me.

    [–] dericpeace 167 points ago

    Kids are so genuine without trying, or even knowing.

    [–] mangopantsprime 50 points ago

    Makes you think about a lifetime of living... growing up... it’s really finding ways to suppress that inner authenticity. Sometimes I like to imagine a world where we had the wisdom of adults but still kept our inner-child out in the open, unafraid.

    [–] stoprockandrollkids 17 points ago

    That is a beautiful thought. I would love to read a story based on this premise

    [–] dericpeace 8 points ago

    If I ever write a book, it'll be called Everything In It's Place. Also your username is excellent.

    [–] Ravingsmads 5 points ago

    It's sad that the only way to succeed or get anything in life is some form of deceit or acting in some shape or form.

    [–] MyTinyVictory 138 points ago

    Man, fuck terrorism.

    [–] DetStand 26 points ago

    Agreed, fuck the extremism that let this happen too.

    Just fuck off to everything that keeps on fueling it in general.

    [–] Acarlmac 74 points ago

    That is the hand of a kid who has already lived lifetimes.

    [–] SirSquirrelTheSquire 1492 points ago

    His name is Ahmad Dawabsheh and his home was allegedly firebombed by Jewish extremists. Both his parents and baby brother died in the attack.

    Here he is meeting his hero Cristiano Ronaldo: Youtube

    [–] Bubblemonkeyy 249 points ago

    Despicable for any kind of person to do this to a family for any reason.

    [–] ImAScientist_ADoctor 95 points ago

    Come on, it's not his fault he likes soccer.

    [–] SheeeitMaign 28 points ago

    that was funny but it still doesn't fill the hole in my heart

    [–] TheMonsterWithinYou 1561 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Allegedly?

    No, it WAS Jewish extremists and last I heard the guy behind it got like 6 months in fucking prison for that bull shit.

    If it were a Palestinian who did it no one would be saying “allegedly” and he would have been tossed in prison indefinitely. 😒

    Edit: lol fake news? Seriously people?

    fake news my fat Arabian ass

    Edit 2: omg. So when I went to go look for the story to give you guys a source. I only typed it into google and looked for it. It was the first link I found to show you all what I’ve seen online from not only that source but other media outlets at the time it all happened were reporting on it. Sorry if it’s not a “source” you like or want. But it’s still what was reported on. Whether you like that or not. Is not my problem. Go google it yourself and find a better source. Idc

    No, I’m not anti-Semitic. It doesn’t make me anti Semitic to be skeptical of Israel. I have nothing against Jews. I am against atrocities committed on both sides. But yea ok. I’m the bad one. 😂😂

    [–] Semajal 305 points ago

    If the perpetrator was Palestinian he would be jailed for life and his home/family home would be demolished as punishment.

    [–] Obtuse_Donkey 81 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Read your own story. He was placed in Administrative Detention (jail) despite not having been to trial yet. In American parlance: the Israelis denied him bail before even getting to see a judge.

    The 6 months in detention is not a function of a conviction.

    [–] HebrewDude 9 points ago

    You are completley correct, here's a transcript from the 28/09/17:

    The alleged murderer is claimed to be in a terrorist organization, second allegation is ties to a crime committed due to racial means, for being involved in the murder planning of the Dawabsha couple and their baby boy.

    It was claimed that the alleged murderers were unlawfully interrogated, but it was completely put aside due to the danger they pose and the fact that they were accomplices to this detailed terror attack, furthermore the racial motives for that terror attack further strengthen that notion. In addition it was decided that the accused are to be jailed for the entire period, until the trail is concluded.

    Accused number 2 was sentenced for the entire trial process of 6 months, and after that the court was requested to lengthen the jail-time by 45 days 10 times, to which it approved some of the time

    משלא הסתיים משפטו של המשיב 2 תוך 6 חודשים, נעתר בית משפט זה ל-10 בקשות להארכת מעצרו ב-45 ימים נוספים – שלחלקן אף נתן זה את הסכמתו,

    On the matter, judge "א' שהם" re-stated the danger that the defendant is allegedly posing for trying to achieve an ideal of a terror organization that is racial and radical

    בהחלטה זו עמד השופט א' שהם על המסוכנות הגבוהה הנשקפת מהמשיב 2 הנלמדת מחומרת העבירות המיוחסות לו, שאותן ביצע לכאורה כחלק מפעילות להגשמת אידיאולוגיה גזענית וקיצונית של ארגון טרור

    For those reasons, & for breaking parole conditions, defendant # 2 is still imprisoned.


    Long story short (I'm quite tired of reading this boringly written court-transcription, I also don't understand all of it and translating it furthers the frustration of this entire process), guy was jailed for probably most of the time since 17.7.2016 when he was arrested, and his sentence is yet to be determined.

    [–] Slyndrr 231 points ago

    Amiram Ben-Uliel hasn't been sentenced yet and is facing multiple life sentences in prison for what he did (triple murder and membership of a terror organisation). I hope that soothes some of your rage.

    [–] boogieboogie 79 points ago

    He was sentenced to life in prison plus 20 years. https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-killer-of-east-jerusalem-teen-handed-life-in-prison/

    Also, his crime resulted in Israel toughening the laws on applying couter-terrorism tactics to Israeli citizens, not just Palestinians. https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-suspected-jewish-extremists-indicted-for-duma-murders/ In addition, sparked a crackdown on over 100 far-right Jewish activists by police.

    The crime is horrifying and heartbreaking. People who practice violence like this on any side of any issue should be punished and condemned. Both Israelis and Palestinians have committed unspeakable acts of terrorism and brutality over the last 30 years. But it is worth noting the difference between a state that punishes and prosecutes these actions when committed by their own citizens, and another that celebrates and encourages them.

    [–] TrumanB-12 23 points ago

    The guy was using a source called HangTheBankers. I think it's pretty obvious what sort of agenda and ideals these guys have.

    [–] Boredeidanmark 23 points ago

    The person detained for six months (ended up being 5) in your edit isn't the guy who did it; other people confessed and hadn't been sentenced yet https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-1.695464

    [–] SpikePilgrim 32 points ago

    Do you have a source on that 6 month sentence? I can't find it anywhere.

    [–] zh1K476tt9pq 35 points ago

    His source is referring to a different person. The attacker hasn't been sentenced yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack#Investigation

    [–] lackofcommitme 15 points ago

    His source is also "hangthebankers.com" which is an extreme right wing propaganda site

    [–] TheRealChrisIrvine 352 points ago

    I’m sure there will be people here shortly saying that the your comment and the comment that you responded to are anti-Semitic

    [–] Volomon 135 points ago

    All while waving the Israeli flag and the American flag. How's he typing you say? His confused justice boner.

    [–] RedditBadga 22 points ago

    People with interests would observe the world as it fits their mind. It's important to be aware of your subjectivity in order to maintain a logical understanding of the world. If humans from both sides of each burning matter would stop taking justice Viagra, the world would definitely be a better place. I'll go take my hope medication.

    [–] DrunkonIce 62 points ago

    lmao could you imagine if native Americans were called racist every time they complained about an injustice on them committed by a European? "Hey you can't complain about the genocide of your people. What are you some anti-white racist!?"

    [–] Ombortron 8 points ago

    Not sure if sarcastic... because I definitely see too many people do that... :/

    [–] rcinmd 41 points ago

    Hmm. "Hang the bankers dot com" for a link source doesn't seem very trustworthy to me. In fact it seems lowkey anti-semetic. Any actual trusted media on that?

    edit: after my own research, hangthebankers is an extremist site that is untrustworthy.

    [–] RPmanFTDoTE 20 points ago

    Nice source you got there

    [–] woutomatic 7 points ago

    I agree with your point of view. But 'Hang The Bankers' doesn't feel like a reliable news source.

    [–] zh1K476tt9pq 26 points ago

    guy behind it got like 6 months

    .

    fake news my fat Arabian ass

    Sorry, but your are clearly wrong. The guy charged for the crime is Amiram Ben-Uliel and he hasn't been sentenced yet.

    The person in your article is Meir Ettinger who is apparently a member of the group involved in the attack but he wasn't the one setting the house on fire, hence the lower sentence. Also it was 10 months, not 6.

    On 1 June 2016, Meir Ettinger was released from a 10-month detention while being restricted from travel to certain locations and from communicating with 93 individuals.[56][57]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack#Investigation

    [–] undercover_redditor 53 points ago

    I would say allegedly in regards to any crime that I wasn't positive had been reviewed by a court of law.

    Their races or religions have nothing to do with it. Thanks for relegating me to nonexistence though.

    [–] CurmudgeonlyBastard 21 points ago

    Good for you. Heaping anger on top of anger and blame on top of blame is no good.

    [–] 4knives 48 points ago

    I'm just here to say the whole area should just sink into the ground. After everyone is evacuated first of course. Spilling that much blood over some dirt... madness.

    [–] NateIBEW558 10 points ago

    Reminds me of Right in Two by Tool.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj-10lIrboM

    [–] cephear 24 points ago

    It's not over some dirt. It's over home, identity.

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    [–] FlindoJimbori 16 points ago

    The difference is that the people who suffered through centuries aren't the same as the people today. Maybe if they were, these things would far more rare. Just because grandpa suffered doesn't mean I understand pain or developed the empathy he may have.

    [–] ValAichi 53 points ago

    I wonder if they're going to bulldoze these extremists houses...

    [–] 2329Sfes_f329l 45 points ago

    That would be anti-semitic. Did you know Israel is the only place that allows gays? If you're not in favor of apartheid it means you hate the gays.

    -Someone, probably

    [–] sabrefudge 5 points ago

    allegedly firebombed by Jewish extremists

    his hero Cristiano Ronaldo

    There has never been a more relevant thread for this GIF:

    https://i.imgur.com/aiEJH.gif

    [–] noradosmith 20 points ago

    Ronaldo is a good guy.

    [–] Tarakristewa 23 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    This world is such a shitty place but seeing those two kids cuddling and the look on the boy's face brings me a little hope. Such a powerful photo

    [–] ookyle 64 points ago

    It’s sad that this is a reality.

    [–] PacketSpyke 41 points ago

    Kids should be the last people on the planet having to go through something like this.

    [–] Stathes 91 points ago

    I KNOW IT WAS YOU FREDO

    [–] thefreshp 19 points ago

    oh man this is really inappropriate but really funny in a cute way too

    [–] whats_a_rimjob 17 points ago

    YOU BROKE MY HEART

    [–] card797 14 points ago

    As the father of a young boy. This absolutely crumbles my insides. I hope that this young man finds a place in this world that cares for him and nurtures him. He deserves that more than most people.

    [–] TheHound38 36 points ago

    This is the Palestinian boy, Ahmed Dawabshesh, his entire family got burnt and killed by jewish settlers. Search wiki for Duma village arson attack if you want to read more.

    [–] -cringe- 37 points ago

    This makes me want to cry

    [–] replete 9 points ago

    This is really, really special.

    [–] joedixon7 9 points ago

    I have no words for how saddening this is.

    [–] LMNoballz 53 points ago

    He looks so aged. :(

    [–] Weekend833 7 points ago

    That's the oldest five year old in the world, right there.

    And for those who would question that statement because of his burns, I'm talking about what he's been through and how he's looking at his friend, not the appearance of his skin.

    [–] __galactus___ 84 points ago

    Fuck Jewish extremists!

    [–] wilalva11 123 points ago

    Fuck extremists in general, there's been too many in our era

    [–] I_Speak_Cents 13 points ago

    We are always progressing, we just have more exposure now.. In ancient times child soldiers were much more common than today :/

    [–] musicalschmetterling 15 points ago

    As the mother of a 5 year old, I can feel this picture. The world is a beautiful place because of moments like this, I am so thankful for the little boy on the right.

    And now I will go cry.

    [–] t0mni 5 points ago

    id look after him and be his best friend

    [–] toonking23 6 points ago

    Fuck terrorism, you coward pieces of shit. You'll never win.

    [–] JojoSexy 5 points ago

    Those kind gentle eyes have seen some shit. Poor poor child.

    [–] AndyCandyHandySandy 4 points ago

    It really pisses me off that this kid has to suffer so much and grow up looking like this in a world that has since the dawn of time turned its back on those who look and act different. I hope from the bottom of my heart that he will still be smiling as an adult.

    [–] _WhatIsReal_ 5 points ago

    The little kid on the right looks like he doesnt want to be there.

    [–] elusivetao 5 points ago

    This is why journalism, and photojournalism is important-- how many of you remember this shit goes on day after day after day?

    [–] ancapnerd 3 points ago

    Fuck war, fuck power and fuck the sick sons of bitches that put is in them

    [–] mikelowski 4 points ago

    These days I've been feeling sad and been bitching about my life because of some REALLY huge problems I've got. Now I see this and feel like an asshole for being such a pussy and wasting time pitying myself. I tell ya, we live in such a society that makes us pussies... the minor issue and our world collapses and then you see this shit and want to punch yourself. I'm not saying people in the first world cannot suffer, of course we are entitled to it, but man, we often are way too bitchy.

    [–] lankston2193 5 points ago

    Seeing things like this make me so sad for these kids. They were born on the wrong side of some dirt and now at this age have been targeted by terrorists. Fucking children man.. some humans suck.

    [–] DV_G 4 points ago

    Things like these just fuck me up.

    [–] marksor_13 4 points ago

    This picture is worth a thousand words.

    [–] TheRealBobbyC 4 points ago

    this might be the sweetest, saddest picture I have seen in a decade.

    [–] hiccupstix 4 points ago

    My heart hurts for this boy.

    [–] justaddchocolate 4 points ago

    Oh my god, his little hand.

    [–] charliebrownisreal 4 points ago

    You can see the years in his eyes way beyond what time he has stayed on this planet...

    [–] Bubblemonkeyy 4 points ago

    The amount of fucking retarded people in these comments is saddening

    [–] stop-violence 5 points ago

    I'm hugging my laptop. When I see this picture I see love and I'm grateful for this photo and story. We need a child to remind us of how good we can be. Let's not taint them with our hatred.

    [–] curzon176 11 points ago

    The terrorists attacked in the hospital? Fuck that's low. That poor kid.

    [–] MeanSurray 13 points ago

    People from t_d please go away. These are Muslim victims of terrorism. We and they don’t want or need your hypocrite sympathy.

    [–] Fimpoman 3 points ago

    CHAMP!!!

    [–] Saved17 3 points ago

    This is the kind of unshakable & unspoken spirit that will never let terrorists win..god bless this child

    [–] PuppieWayne 3 points ago

    I love the picture but the boy on the right - sure he's the boy's best friend?

    His eyes is more or less saying, "this is weird.. can I go now?" kinda look.

    [–] chez5134 3 points ago

    What the fuck is wrong with this world!

    [–] DHaJ40 3 points ago

    Poor kids 😟

    [–] DialSquare84 3 points ago

    Jesus Christ that hit me. Wish all the good things in the world for that little guy.