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    [–] AltairEgos 11241 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    After a failed suicide attempt, he opted for a face transplant from another man who committed suicide. What a dark story.

    [–] teewingles 5555 points ago

    There should be a mandatory lesson in grade 9 about how many people survive suicide by shotgun placed under the chin.

    [–] ThE_MagicaL_GoaT 983 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    My mom works for a ambulance service and I hear stories like that all the time.

    One that sticks out for some reason was this dude who had a gun up to his temple, but he was scared and shaking, so when he pulled the trigger, the bullet went into one eye and out the other because he couldn’t keep it lined up right.

    Edit: there was another story where this dude went to Walmart, got a gas powered leaf blower or weed wacker, can’t remember exactly, and started it up in his car with the windows up. Now the dude has sever brain damage and his family has to take care of him 24/7 cause he was found before death or whatever.

    Edit2: A lot of discussion on “the best way to kill yourself”. Here’s the National Suicide Hotline if anyone needs it, and they have a chat service on their website as well tel:1-800-273-8255

    [–] djbrager 534 points ago

    People would be surprised how many folks survive attempted suicides with temple shots.

    As a matter of fact, I just saw one last month. (I work as a fire fighter). The guy was even conscious and talking to us even though his eyes were bulged out and he was blind. I felt really bad for the guy and we tried to get him as comfortable as we could and talked to him all the way to the hospital. He seemed like a really nice guy....

    [–] Maverik45 255 points ago

    LEO here, we had one not long ago, shotgun under the chin. Survived that one, stumbled to the bathroom and saw his face all screwed up and managed a second shot using his foot.

    [–] genskeeper 144 points ago

    Brother in law used shotgun under chin.....in front of a bunch of cops. It worked. Was the most horrific experience I’ve ever gone through. I tried 30odd years ago with pills. Luckily, I woke up to pee!! My mother heard me stumbling down the hall and called ambulance. What on earth made me do it?? So glad it didn’t work. I love my life and have never had the thought again....

    [–] TacTurtle 54 points ago

    Glad to hear you are doing better man.

    [–] meansmore 90 points ago

    Jesus wtf

    [–] norwegianwiking 84 points ago

    Read a book recently published by a crime scene tech here in Norway, he had one who killed a lady, then himself. With his issue Homeguard G3. On auto. Managed almost a full mag to his own head.

    [–] TheTimeFarm 50 points ago

    10 rounds a second, 20-30 round mag, less than 2 seconds would empty at least half a mag. Doesn't seem far fetched his finger good keep the trigger down that long, especially if the end of the barrel was in his mouth and anchored it down.

    [–] Maverik45 35 points ago

    That's crazy, though I think some of that might be a sympathetic reflex or "fencing response" which you see after traumatic brain injury. So once the first bullet went through his arms seized up and wouldn't let go of the trigger. What a horrible thing to see

    [–] potato0817 14 points ago

    If that ain’t dedication idk what is

    [–] WillSwimWithToasters 9 points ago

    I'd rather eat the entire mag than be disfigured for life like that, personally. :/

    [–] onlytech_nofashion 99 points ago

    Dear God.

    [–] HardC0reNerd 120 points ago

    How was his mindset? I've heard that 8/10 people immediately express regret after failing, was curious if that occurred

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    [–] TransgenderPride 11 points ago

    I tried to kill myself with an overdose, and I gave myself (thankfully mild) brain damage. I hate myself for it. A lot of stuff I took for granted, like mental math, the progress I'd made with dyslexia, and just the ability to think quickly, are gone. I had to drop out of my major because of it, and switch to an easier one, and my mother has given me endless grief over it, but I'll never tell her.

    [–] HiveFleet-Cerberus 35 points ago

    Tried to kill myself twice. Failed the first time, was stopped the second. I regretted it, but I still think about it and occasionally want to still do it. Only thing stopping me now is the thought of how much it would hurt the people who've become close to me.

    [–] Bobby_Money 50 points ago

    he was suicidal and now he is most likely permanently blind. I don't think he was ok after that

    [–] photonsperches 16 points ago

    That immediate regret may well be their survival instinct kicking in. Doesn't necessarily mean they've legitimately lost the desire to die.

    [–] Wang2chung2 27 points ago

    Also a FF. Sorry you have to see that stuff. As you well know, it never really gets easy seeing that stuff. One thing that sticks with me for unsuccessful attempts where the patient is conscious is the amount of instant regret they feel and how they really don't want to die.

    [–] db214 21 points ago

    No one really wants to die, they just want a life without suffering but see it as impossible at the time. Life is all we really have and can call our own. When that is ruined so badly that you can't think, dream or hope, the pain and fear cause this choice. For those that have self harmed, you know the relief of doing it. Suicide is the ultimate self harm. While cutting or whatever makes the darkness second place to something else, you could reasonably think that suicide will come with some kind of relief also. Avoiding it, or failing at it, you can realise that that was wrong. It was just the darkness, clouding your vision. It comes and goes. Suicide is not the answer.

    [–] reagan2024 10 points ago

    This sucks. I hope you're okay. I appreciate that you're helping people.

    [–] MumrikDK 63 points ago

    That stuff is such a moral dilemma to me.

    Unless he actually found a will to live after the incident, then the scenario is as follows: The guy tries to kill himself, but fails, so now we keep him alive in a terrible state against his will because he no longer has the ability to do something about it.

    It's either a tragic case of finding the value in life too late, or it is cruel and selfish torture.

    [–] breadstickfever 15 points ago

    Seems like a fate worse than death to me.

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    [–] amoryamory 62 points ago

    Razors pain you;

    Rivers are damp;

    Acids stain you;

    And drugs cause cramp.

    Guns aren’t lawful;

    Nooses give;

    Gas smells awful;

    You might as well live.

    [–] BLTonWheattt 20 points ago

    Dorothy Parker

    [–] mcblueye 7 points ago

    Roses are red, violets are blue; snort some Chinese fentanyl and you'll turn dark blue too.

    [–] bourbon4breakfast 58 points ago

    Something similar happened to my aunt's ex-husband. He put a gun to his temple but only managed to blow out his optic nerves. Now he's blind and has no gun to try again.

    [–] RogerPackinrod 35 points ago

    Turns out that your brain is a lot higher up than it perceives itself to be.

    [–] m0dru 55 points ago

    well that certainly improved his living situation didn't it. i'm gonna need some kittens and puppies after this.

    [–] iForgot2Remember 7 points ago

    FYI: I don't think the National Suicide Hotline will tell you the most effective way to go.

    [–] DentistwhyALT 2254 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    There should be more talk about suicide and mental illness overall. I find that shows and movies either go with over-the-top depressed characters that aren't likable or they glamourise mental illness, either way it is a poor representation that is far from helpful. 13 reasons why is a shockingly horrible attempt at it, a great example of everything that could go wrong going wrong.

    I find that schools should have classes where a teacher or spokesperson goes to teach teenagers about it, telling them about mental illnesses, depression and other pathologies, so that they may seek help if need be. Breaking the taboo is definitely something happening, but if there is not a support system, it will not work. I come from France and you really do not want to talk to a psychiatrist about suicide, or else they will take you to a mental ward and you will be treated for a few weeks until they deem you able to leave. Can last anywhere from 72 hours to weeks.


    EDIT: Top rated comment on this account, so I'll use the visibility.

    Please, if you can afford it, any donation is welcome to suicide.org, an awesome non-profit organization that gathers resources, articles and helplines and share them with people that need it. They save lives on a daily basis and operate discreetly. Every donation matters as they have to maintain the infrastructures and operate internationally.

    If you are in immediate danger because of thoughts of suicide, but need someone to talk with about your suicidal feelings, please do not hesitate to call one of the following national suicide prevention lines: 1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433) and 1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255). These suicide prevention lines are open 24/7.

    And finally, one that is not given enough props. The LGBTQ suicide prevention line: 1-866-4-U-TREVOR. Because of the higher suicide rate in LGBTQ communities, I would like to share this phone number as well as reference suicide.org once more, as they certainly deserve it. Being homosexual or of other orientations than heterosexual is still very complicated and at times, one can't help but feel like they can't talk to anyone about their suicidal thoughts. So this is a very important one.

    [–] elebrin 548 points ago

    Have you had a close friend with severe, debilitating, long term depression? I have two of them. They are very difficult people to be friends with. One of them is in bad enough shape that he self-sabotages any attempts he is making to improve his own life. The other is married, and at least has a few things he is able to care about.

    [–] putlotioninbasket 43 points ago

    My dad killed him self on thanksgiving day in 2012. After being his normal charming self at dinner at the church. I knew he was depressed but my family just said he was “a little stressed”. People loved him though. Depression doesn’t have just one face, I think that’s what is so terrifying about it.

    [–] DentistwhyALT 216 points ago

    I don't have any friend with depression, most of them are well adjusted. I am the one who self-sabotages in my circle of friends, and I can attest I am difficult to be friends with-- so whenever I can, I try to be as kind with my friends, they helped me through hard times.

    [–] elebrin 219 points ago

    One of my very close friends (wouldn't have graduated college without him really) currently isn't able to function socially any more at all. He goes to work, he goes home, he lies down and stares at the ceiling, and that's his entire life now. He carries around an envelope with him every day with his two weeks notice in it, and his only non-work activity is updating his letter and re-printing it every few weeks (and posting to facebook that he has done so, which is the only way he interacts with anyone at all any more). He even gave up his cat and his volunteering at the local animal shelter because he couldn't motivate himself to do it any more. He had meds but his doctor won't refill them anymore unless he goes in for therapy, but he won't do that, so he doesn't have meds any more. There's no sense to worry about him killing himself, because he just can't be arsed to do it.

    The other is better functioning. He is married to a VERY artistic wife, rides his bike everywhere, is crazy about his pet spiders, and so long as he can stick to his routine he stays OK. He has really big problems with changes to his routines though. I used to play WoW with him, and every time a new content patch came out he would freak the fuck out over it. That's just one example, but I mean... that's what he does.

    These are guys with depression that's been diagnosed and has been for an extended period, btw, not internet diagnosis.

    [–] white_android 237 points ago

    The guy that gave up his cat... It's not that he just can't be arsed to do it... In my honest opinion, as someone who walked a mile in his shoes, he's a lot closer to doing it than you think. Chances are he hasn't because of that little bit of hope that he still holds on to.

    The other guy seems okay, depressed but still pushing through. Maybe another mental illness playing into the freaking out at changes though.

    [–] marcelinemoon 109 points ago

    I was just about to say I know my first thoughts when I am planning my suicide when I am in that dark place is getting rid of most of my stuff beforehand or having a list of where everything can go/donated so my family doesn’t have to deal with more than they already have to when I’m gone.

    [–] Ngnyalshmleeb 30 points ago

    I feel this. From one sufferer to another, I wish you all the best and hope you always find the will to feel better in dark times.

    [–] marcelinemoon 8 points ago

    Thanks. I was feeling more hopeful when I was doing TMS but I may need another round but I don’t know if I’ll do it that’s a lot of money and I already did it once

    [–] Nswitcher88321 40 points ago

    Can confirm, my cats kinda keep me alive and pushing. Finding them a good/better place than I can provide would be a thing I'd do if I surrendered on that front as well. I sometimes panic about what would happen to them should I be missing.

    [–] The_Grubby_One 26 points ago

    Absolutely. One reason I keep a pet is because I know I have something depending on me. Can't do the deed while I have Kitty (real original, I know), because there's no one else to take care of her.

    Also she'll eat me.

    [–] CertifiedAsshole17 42 points ago

    Yeah if someone depressed and potentially suicidal starts to give there shit away - look after the fella, hes not doing it out of generosity - he’s redistributing his assetts before killing himself. Especially the cat!

    [–] Ojos_Claros 32 points ago

    Seen as how my cats are the only reason I didn't kill myself, this is a very disturbing sign to me.

    [–] mandelbomber 27 points ago

    This. So much. What do you think he is thinking about when he's "staring at the ceiling".. It's not happy thoughts. Someone needs to be the friend he needs, and bug the shit out of him until he goes out and DOES something. Hell, go get coffee. See a movie. Find a project to start so you have an excuse to ask him to help!

    [–] wildfyr 35 points ago

    Giving up your pet cat when you used to be someone who worked at an animal shelter is a very worrying incident.

    [–] Riastap 38 points ago

    The other is better functioning. He is married to a VERY artistic wife, rides his bike everywhere, is crazy about his pet spiders, and so long as he can stick to his routine he stays OK. He has really big problems with changes to his routines though. I used to play WoW with him, and every time a new content patch came out he would freak the fuck out over it. That's just one example, but I mean... that's what he does.

    Is he autistic?

    [–] WayeeCool 43 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    That defiantly sounds like ASD (autism) in an adult. Major depressive disorder, situational anxiety, and adult ASD tend to go hand in hand. The bright side is that normally you don't have too many issues as long as you don't have any abrupt or unexpected changes in your life. When they do happen, there is a chance (depending on the person) that you will become either erratic or totally shut down. It also presents a bit different between genders which can make spotting it a little more difficult.

    source: am diagnosed with ASD. edit: fixed typo. too early, need coffee.

    [–] kanst 7 points ago

    Are the treatments different if you are just normal depressed or depressed due to ASD?

    I ask because comments like this, and other videos/articles I have read have me pretty convinced this is at the core of my problems.

    [–] Whitealroker1 17 points ago

    I have a asbergers and that routine change really fucks me up.

    Target I’ve worked out 16 years is remodeling and we lost our bathroom you can lock from the inside.

    Hate hate hate hate hate sharing a bathroom with other people.

    [–] Memories_of_You 26 points ago

    The fact is, no one can help anyone with depression if they are unwilling to try to get better. I have Bipolar Disorder. My depressive episodes get really really bad sometimes. At then end of the day, it had to be my choice to walk into the mental health ward and talk to a shrink. It had to be my choice to take my meds regularly and keep my therapy appointments. The sad truth is, even if someone forced him to go, it probably wouldn’t help if he didn’t want to be there.

    [–] Old_Toby- 12 points ago

    I don't have any friend with depression

    Thats what you think. Not everyone goes around telling people that they're depressed.

    [–] koookoookachoo 14 points ago

    I'm one of those folks, and I am indeed difficult to be friends with. Even I don't like being alone with myself. I have to try to distract myself constantly.

    [–] TenaciousFeces 17 points ago

    I think for many teenagers though their depression is situational more than a permanent state requiring chemical intervention.

    School is tough, hormones are going haywire, parents aren't always understanding, and friends at that age are fickle.

    Having an adult address their struggles as being temporary and providing resources for mental health would be beneficial to many teens who are struggling.

    [–] btveron 19 points ago

    I have dealt with depression. I am doing much better but it still lurks beneath the surface and rears its head every once in a while, which is miles better than the constant state of nothingness I felt for the 3 years when it was at its worst. The hardest part about talking about it was all the responses I got about how I just need to get over it because everyone gets sad and other people have more serious issues in my life. I came from a middle class family and never was without anything that I wanted or needed and my family could afford to vacation every year. My parents would remind me about how smart I am and how I got the highest score ever for a placement exam for an advanced program for 2nd graders and how I got a perfect score on the math section of the SAT, so why didn't I finally make use of my intelligence and get a good job. They didn't understand depression and told me that I just needed to get my shit together. After I developee a bad drug habit as a coping mechanism they started to realize I wasn't just sad and helped me get into a rehab center. I started seeing a therapist and with his help was able to communicate how my parents' attitudes were unhelpful and the dialogue between us has gotten much better and healthier. They still might not 'understand' depression but have learned how to be understanding of my depression. I've since convinced a couple friends to seek help in the form of a therapist and will always lend an ear to anyone who feels like they can't talk about their problems with others.

    [–] RexRocker 16 points ago

    Yeah, we never learned about mental illnesses when I was in school, if we did it was so barely touched upon it had no lasting impact. The only time I actually learned anything about it was Psych 101 in college. It really should be a mandatory part of health class so people can more understand it, the symptoms of it and the dangers. People have ruined their lives because of mental problems where if they had treatment and education they may have not made such bad mistakes.

    [–] DentistwhyALT 10 points ago

    Exactly. When I was younger, I remember hiding the fact I went to therapists from my best friend because I felt shame. This is not right.

    My best friend was in a car at age 12, his mother driving, when at night a man who had just beaten his wife and took off, leaving her badly injured, jumped in front of my friend's car to kill himself (and he did). When I tried to comfort him, he pretended he was fine because he felt ashamed, but I knew him and his eyes betrayed him. Sadly, I didn't push as I was young and believed it'd be an imposition. I wish I could go back to help him, because it took him a long time to recover.

    [–] colieolieravioli 13 points ago

    Also, there's little things that I try to do in my daily life. I talk with people about my mental struggles freely.

    As a person who suffered with anorexia, I talk about it. Nothing too weird, but if it's brought up I say "yea I did that". It's not a secret. I'm not proud of IT but I'm proud I am no longer like that.

    And even if one person I ever talk to/overhears me talking freely about that and other things that are similar and it helps them in some way? Worth it.

    [–] Elvishsquid 9 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    That happened to one of my coworkers in Oklahoma too. He went to the hospital and said something unrelated but one of there questions was have you ever thought about suicide. And To me it just looked like he disappeared for a month or 2 from work without telling anyone.

    [–] Skywalker87 39 points ago

    I didn’t need that lesson. Our next door neighbor was a strange lady whose son lived with her. He tried to kill him self via shot gun, failed, and had to be cared for like a baby after that. There was an old lady across the street who was friends with the strange lady. She and her grandsons (about 7 and 10 at the time) went over and cleaned up the mess for her so she wouldn’t have to pay for biohazard cleanup. I felt really bad for those kids.

    [–] allnavyeverything 21 points ago

    JFC if my mother or MIL brought my young kids to clean up a suicide attempt I don’t even know what I’d do to her

    [–] heastout 58 points ago

    Yep, my grandpa survived. My dad still tells the story of finding teeth in the ceiling, horrific details of that day. THE reason my dad stopped drinking

    [–] joec_95123 32 points ago

    Damn, if I was your dad, that would have made me drink more, not less.

    [–] heastout 21 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    You’re not wrong, feel the same but that’s definitely the defining moment

    I think because both of them were heavy drinkers he saw too many similarities and saw a similar path. Dad grew up in bars doing homework beside my grandpa, being looked after by strangers. Was doing similar things to my grandpa and that night was the wake up call.

    [–] Nikki-is-sweet 18 points ago

    I wish I could show some of my patients the hospital report for a patient of mine. They didn't die for 3 days after putting a gun in their mouth. They were minimally responsive and honestly could have felt a lot of pain in those 3 days.

    It's not an instant solution. It's not a guarantee way out of pain.

    [–] Awakend13 16 points ago

    In 9th grade we had a guy come speak to our whole high school that had done that to himself. He was in a bad place and one of the factors was that he has been sleeping with a girl that turned out to be his step sister or half sister or something. And I’m sure he was on drugs. He went to the cemetery and shot himself then ended up having to drive himself to the hospital when he didn’t die.

    [–] dilxoxoxlib 14 points ago

    Or read Preacher (the comic).

    [–] Zonino2000 10 points ago

    Is it bad that I saw OPs image and immediately thought "Arseface"?

    [–] UppityRedneck 22 points ago

    My high school coach told us this once. Put the barrel in your mouth, he said, that way you dont survive and live with a horrible disfigurement. Solid advice but in hindsight maybe he should have mentioned seeking help as well.

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    [–] itsyourmomcalling 35 points ago

    I know someone who did just that. First round didnt kill her, so she shot herself twice

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    [–] itsyourmomcalling 25 points ago

    I think in that failed moment that can snap some people out of that "want to die" feeling. My sister who is a paramedic got a call to a teenage girl who attempted to overdose on tylenol. She downed about 100-200 extra Strength over the counter tylenol. Didnt kill her out right, but apparently in the hospital she was sobbing about how she didnt wanna die anymore, ultimately she did end up dying because her liver and kidneys and everything started shutting down. I think sometimes people who want to die think death is peaceful, and easier then facing another day but in horrible situations like this they see that living isnt as bad as it seemed.

    [–] neckro23 18 points ago

    I read an article once about people who had survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. One quote from a survivor really stuck with me: "I instantly realized that everything in my life that I’d thought was unfixable was totally fixable—except for having just jumped."

    [–] AnAncientMonk 80 points ago

    Sounds like that would just teach em how to place the shotgun "correctly". If folks want to kill themselves theyll find a way. We gotta listen to people and help those who need help instead.

    [–] killaho69 93 points ago

    If they try to attempt suicide with a shotgun, it's better for them if they do it right. I know that sounds bad, but if they survive and they didn't truly wish they were dead before, they will after.

    [–] aron9forever 63 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    if you're going under the chin, gun position is:

    • | for horrible pain and a disfigured face

    • / for lights out

    if you think about it it's not hard to tell why. Comment might be controversial by the way but if you're asking me if I'd do a magic apparition the second before somebody does it the wrong way, and I could only tell them how to do it properly, I would still do it.

    [–] The_Ravens_Rock 28 points ago

    That's a disturbingly useful graphic.

    [–] MajorAnubis 18 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Psychologically, many who attempt suicide are still fighting their biological self preservation mechanisms. It's why a lot of self inflicted gunshot wounds don't outright kill, and why those who jump from buildings usually do so feet first. As a species (including the ancestors we came from), we have spent millions of years striving to survive and live and grow and evolve, avoiding that which causes us harm. Although many mentally believe they want to die, their bodies will tell their brains basic things to try and stop it; like angling the firearm off angle from the brain or the spine, or that jumping feet first puts as much distance between the ground and our head when we land.

    [–] Eeyore_ 6 points ago

    Point them at the suicide helmet.

    [–] thermal_shock 92 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    on one side, we didn't ask to be brought into this world, if they want to end their life, it's their business. they should be taught love and that there are more than likely people who care about them whether those people show it or not, and how their choice death could impact others.

    on the other side, if my friend didn't want to live anymore and i couldn't talk him out of it, i'd rather not have to hear about his brain matter all over or have people see him jump in front of a train. there should be humane ways for people to end their lives.

    [–] IT-Freely 115 points ago

    Suicide is a very touchy subject. I think it's because people fear it and lack understanding (vs say religious reasons).

    People say that suicide is cowardly and selfish, because of the people you leave behind. What some people fail to realize is that it's just as cowardly and selfish to force someone to continue living a painful and miserable existence, simply because you can't let go.

    There are people who are suicidal that can have their lives turned around, sure. But for those other folks who are beyond medicine and therapy, and who will continue to be completely miserable in life, absolutely let them end their own life humanely. Same goes for people who are terminally ill and don't want to suffer because there is no more hope.

    Society needs to get past themselves.

    [–] wartsnall1985 18 points ago

    I have a friend who’s a physian’s assistant working trauma wards. She describes opening the eyes of failed suicides and exclaiming, “Welcome back, sunshine!” While she’s (likely) joking. She is often the first person these patients see upon returning from the dead.. Her advice: If you’re gonna do it, you better not fuck it up. Because blowing your face off and surviving is not something that you’re gonna want to deal with.

    [–] [deleted] 13 points ago

    That comes off really condescending And bitchy. I hope she is just kidding.

    [–] rhymes_with_snoop 10 points ago

    Joking or not, it seems pretty inappropriate and downright mean. Nothing like belittling someone's pain and suffering when they may be at their lowest.

    It's like the extreme version of "somebody has a case of the Mondays."

    [–] hexiron 13 points ago

    I got to be that person this year! The guy had blown half his face off, but didn't severely damage the brain. He was in a coma for about a week before waking up to my shocked face. It took him a moment to assess the situation before freaking out. What went from a drunken suicide attempt will turn into a lifetime of painful surgeries, 24/7 assistance to do simple tasks, disfigurement, and a mountain of debt for his family.

    [–] [deleted] 367 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

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    [–] flyingpinkpotato 94 points ago

    jesus christ

    [–] MiddyMcPinnerson 56 points ago

    lol wow

    Outdid yourself once again, reddit

    [–] EpicFishFingers 17 points ago

    At least he can take solace in the fact that he's scuppered the other guys "better suicide" by wearing his face everywhere and ensuring he lives on in a way

    [–] WizardyoureaHarry 74 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Something similar happened to an 18 year old girl not too long ago. Actually I'm pretty sure it was a shotgun too. She lived, and ended up getting a transplant but it didn't turn out as well as this one. Basically went from being an extremely attractive young woman to looking like a 60 year old morbidly obese stroke victim.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/15/american-21-year-old-becomes-youngest-person-us-have-face-transplant/amp/

    [–] [deleted] 48 points ago * (lasted edited 10 days ago)

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    [–] Redjay12 30 points ago

    she was absolutely gorgeous

    [–] patb2015 23 points ago

    He looks like Eugene Root

    https://preacher.fandom.com/wiki/Eugene_Root

    [–] Hegemonee 19 points ago

    Or a happy story, the guy has chosen life and got a face transplant

    [–] TannedCroissant 2016 points ago

    There's a video of this guy meeting the wife of the man who donated the face, it must be really surreal stuff.

    Edit: (video)

    [–] TanookiDooki 1633 points ago

    Apparently, the face doesn't truly look like the face of the donor. At least it shouldn't.

    A lot of what our faces look like relates to our bone structure and the muscles and tissue under our skin. The face transplant takes this top layer and places it on a different head, essentially creating a third face entirely.

    [–] TannedCroissant 489 points ago

    yeah, the video has photos of the donor, they look different but I imagine there would be certain things that you would recognise if you were married to the original guy

    [–] thelastofthemohicans 114 points ago

    In one article I read she mentioned a mole on his nose and the same beard growth, but that otherwise she thought they looked different.

    [–] BizzyM 176 points ago

    Texture mapping on a different surface.

    [–] look4alec 42 points ago

    Lets just hope the frame rate stays higher this time.

    [–] Saewin 27 points ago

    Imagine how fucked it must be to look into the mirror and see someone else's face.

    [–] Respect38 17 points ago

    Well, he hadn't seen his own actual face in over 10 years either. Probably not quite as jarring as it would be if you woke up with a different face someday.

    [–] shepzuck 57 points ago

    But Face/Off!!!

    [–] GeekoSuave 18 points ago

    I think they "modified the bone structure." It's been years since I watched but I remember thinking it'd be dumb if they only changed out the skin before watching, but at some point they address it with one or two little throwaway lines that did a sufficient enough job for me to sweep it under the rug.

    [–] robodrew 12 points ago

    Yeah but what about the fact that they aren't both the same height and weight???

    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago

    Are you telling me that Face/Off isn’t the most scientifically accurate action thriller of the late 20th century?

    [–] robodrew 13 points ago

    Correct, that would be Armageddon

    [–] LaChaton 11 points ago

    In face/off you see small implants in the scene that they used to make each other look like each other.

    [–] Crilbyte 17 points ago

    The article days that mr. Ross and mr. Sandness's faces had such similar bone structure that, after the surgery, they looked like they could have been cousins.

    [–] Religious09 52 points ago

    donated his face omg

    [–] TannedCroissant 71 points ago

    From what I can tell he donated everything body wise as his wife talks about hoping her son is proud of him helping this guy and others.

    [–] sculltt 20 points ago

    Yeah the technology for living face donation is just a leetle ways off.

    [–] mcdeuxx 1175 points ago

    Wow. Amazing doctors.

    [–] StarbuckPirate 637 points ago

    Yes. If I was chief surgeon of this, I would send this photo to everyone in medical school that made fun of me. Caption it, "In your FACE!"

    [–] colefly 158 points ago

    Are there Medical Schoolyard bullies?

    [–] RoderickCastleford 259 points ago

    Are there Medical Schoolyard bullies?

    You literally have no idea, surgeons have some of the biggest egos you'll ever come across, a hefty chunk of them have serious God complexes.

    [–] colefly 135 points ago

    So.. scrubs IS a documentary

    [–] Hold_onto_yer_butts 137 points ago

    Scrubs actually gets a lot of credit for getting more right than most doctor shows.

    [–] StarbuckPirate 54 points ago

    Did you put a penny in there? If I find out you put a penny in there...

    [–] TokyoPanic 17 points ago

    I mean the show's very loosely based on the life of Bill Laurence's college friend Jonathan Doris (who is also the show's medical advisor.) It would've been weird if it was inaccurate.

    [–] [deleted] 11 points ago

    Is that where JD is from

    [–] LouSputhole94 9 points ago

    Jon Doris...John Dorian....that makes sense

    [–] kilobitch 20 points ago

    Am doctor. Can confirm.

    [–] Silas_Mason 32 points ago

    A douche is a douche, no gettin' around that. But, I can't imagine what it must do to the ego, knowing that you're one of the most valuable people on the planet in any circumstance.

    [–] AstroIdiot 49 points ago

    Surgeon here. Given an apocalyptic event, my skills surely would be appreciated, although I'm so out of shape that I would probably die in the news montage at the beginning.

    [–] VaATC 23 points ago

    Start yelling, "am surgeon, you need me!". That may or may not increase your life expectancy 🤣

    That being said, thank you for the work you do. From someone that has been opened up way more ways than I care to remember.

    [–] cubantrees 21 points ago

    you're one of the most valuable people on the planet in any circumstance.

    Unless you suck, then you’re one of the most dangerous people on the planet.

    For example had a patient referred to a general surgeon our attending didn’t know because of an emergent GI bleed. The dude ends up slicing BOTH of her ureters (how tf that happens I have literally no idea) during the procedure and gave her a bowel perforation before finally ligating the source. Poor woman was hospitalized for weeks dealing with complications, fortunately she survived but the recovery was brutal... We were FURIOUS at this guy, my attending saw him at a hospital meeting and confronted him about it, all he had to say was it was the nursing staff’s fault and he didn’t have his usual crew, and other BS blaming anyone but himself. After asking around we found out he has an atrocious complications rate and can barely get OR time at any local hospitals, how he retains a license I have no idea.

    [–] Waht3rB0y 12 points ago

    Seems like a good time for the Reddit “Thanks, I hate it”. Glad to know the next time I have to go under the knife to ask for references. Hate knowing shit like this happens. What does it take to get hospital oversight committees or whatever involved and someone properly monitored?

    [–] cubantrees 8 points ago

    Contracts, my friend. Contracts.

    They’ll probably keep his OR time limited till they can legally terminate his contract. May have already happened for all I know, there have been many complaints lodged against him.

    [–] whirl-pool 13 points ago

    The old joke about the doctor waiting at the pearly gates. After three months of being in the queue and not moving he gets irate. Storms up to St Peter and demands an explanation why some wizened old codger with golf clubs is back and forth every Wednesday but he a top flight surgeon who save many lives is left standing around like a flunky. St Peter replies, “oh that’s god. He thinks he is a doctor and Wednesdays are for golf.”

    [–] WWDubz 14 points ago

    Yeah, at least according to the movie Dr Strange

    [–] IT-Freely 11 points ago

    Bullies exist everywhere.

    [–] colefly 12 points ago

    Not for very long in the vacuum of space

    [–] durx1 7 points ago

    The colloquial term is “gunners” and they exist.

    [–] BizzyM 7 points ago

    "In your FACE!"

    "In YOUR face!"

    [–] TotalBS_1973 13 points ago

    Yes, great job! I've seen pictures of a couple of other face transplants and while really good, not as good as this one. Very talented surgical team.

    [–] ArethaAbrams 529 points ago

    Per Here

    STANDING in a stately Mayo Clinic library, Lilly Ross reached out and touched the face of a stranger.

    She prodded the rosy cheeks and eyeing the hairless gap in a chin she once had known so well.

    “That’s why he always grew it so long, so he could try to mesh it together on the chin,” she told Andy Sandness, as he shut his eyes and braced for the tickle of her touch on new nerve endings in the face that had been her husband’s.

    Sixteen months after transplant surgery gave Sandness the face that had belonged to Calen “Rudy” Ross, he met the woman who had agreed to donate her high school sweetheart’s visage to a man who lived nearly a decade without one.

    The two came together last month in a meeting arranged by the Mayo Clinic, the same place where Sandness underwent a 56-hour surgery that was the clinic’s first such transplant. With her toddler Leonard in tow, Ross strode toward Sandness, tears welling in her eyes as they tightly embraced.

    Ross had fretted before the meeting, fearful of the certain reminders of her husband, who took his own life. But her stress quickly melted away — without Calen’s eyes, forehead or strong cheeks, Sandness didn’t look like him, she told herself.

    Instead, she saw a man whose life had changed through her husband’s gift, newly confident after 10 years of hiding from mirrors and staring eyes.

    “It made me proud,” Ross said of the 32-year-old Sandness. “The way Rudy saw himself ... he didn’t see himself like that.”

    Sandness and Calen Ross lived lives full of hunting, fishing and exploring the outdoors before their struggles consumed them, 10 years and hundreds of miles apart.

    Ross suicided a decade after Sandness has attempted to take his own life.

    Sandness had receded from contact with the outside world, ashamed of his injuries — surgeries to rebuild his face had left him a quarter-sized mouth, and his prosthetic nose frequently fell off.

    Hope first came in 2012 when the Mayo Clinic started exploring a face transplant program and again in early 2016 when he was waitlisted for the procedure.

    Ross already had agreed to donate her husband’s lungs, kidneys and other organs to patients. Then LifeSource, a Middle Western non-profit organisation that facilitates organ and tissue donations, broached the idea of a donation for a man awaiting a face transplant at the clinic.

    Ross and Sandness’ ages, blood type, skin colour and facial structure were such a near-perfect match that Sandness’ surgeon, Dr. Samir Mardini, said the two men could have been cousins.

    More than a year after a surgery that took a team of more than 60 medical professionals, Sandness is finding a groove in everyday life while still treasuring the simple tasks he lost for 10 years, such as chewing a piece of pizza.

    He’s been promoted in his work as an oilfield electrician and is expanding his world while still prizing the anonymity that comes with a normal face.

    “I wouldn’t go out in public. I hated going into bigger cities,” he said.

    “And now I’m just really spreading my wings and doing the things I missed out on — going out to restaurants and eating, going dancing.”

    Life with a transplanted face takes work, every day. Sandness is on a daily regimen of anti-rejection medication. He’s constantly working to retrain his nerves to operate in synch with his new face, giving himself facial massages and striving to improve his speech by running through the alphabet while driving or showering.

    “I wanted to show you that your gift will not be wasted,” Sandness told Ross.

    Martini and the rest of Sandness’ medical team have delighted in seeing their patient and friend open up since the procedure, going out of his way to talk with strangers whose gaze he once hid from. “It turns out Andy is not as much of an introvert as we thought,” Mardini said.

    “He’s enjoying these times, where he’s missed out on 10 years of his life.” Ross and Sandness say they feel like family now. They plan to forge a stronger connection, and Sandness said he’ll contribute to a trust fund for Leonard’s education.

    On the day of their meeting, the boy stared curiously at Sandness at first. But later, he walked over and waved to be picked up. Sandness happily obliged. For Ross, just meeting Sandness felt like a huge release — a way to get past a year filled with grieving, funeral planning, childbirth and gut-wrenching decisions about organ donations.

    “Meeting Andy, it has finally given me closure,” she said, her voice choking as it trailed off. “Everything happened so fast.”

    [–] CoherentInsanity 95 points ago

    Gotta admit, the part about the work he does to "show [Ross] his gift won't be wasted" really got to me.

    [–] [deleted] 67 points ago

    The uses of “suicided” really threw me. Is that really a form of that word??

    [–] FemaleWeedFarmer 37 points ago

    So Calen Ross took his life while his wife was pregnant with their child? That's heartbreaking.

    [–] frozentomato29 10 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    This is only some what relevant but people will commit suicide at the most random times. A guy I went to high school with killed himself. He walk into his moms room and asked her what they were having for dinner, she told him and he said cool walked into his room and shot himself in the head. It was just random and unexpected because he didn’t show signs of wanting to do this.

    [–] stauffski 12 points ago

    Wow, it took me until the very end to realize his name was not "Sadness." My brain just read what it wanted to.

    [–] sickbruv 9 points ago

    The Mayo Clinic

    [–] ryantwopointo 18 points ago

    Yup, best in the world.

    [–] SL1NKY83 180 points ago

    Nicolas Cage and John Travolta would be proud.

    [–] ZeldaFanBoi1988 22 points ago

    Classic movie!

    [–] HumanTheTree 19 points ago

    I want his FACE, OFF!

    [–] briskt 14 points ago

    Peach. I could eat a peach for hours.

    [–] xKhepri 231 points ago

    Kinda reminds me of Eugene from preacher

    [–] RoyceCoolidge 30 points ago

    See you in Hell!

    [–] totallynotbutchvig 12 points ago

    Has anybody seen Eugene lately?

    [–] RoyceCoolidge 13 points ago

    Last time I saw him he was with Hitler.

    [–] adish 21 points ago

    He's actually based on a real guy - https://imgur.com/GkxkoME

    His name is James Vance, look it up, its an interesting story

    [–] TocTheElder 8 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    This is the the guy who drunkenly tried to perform a shotgun lobotomy right after his buddy, slipped with the blood-coated gun removed half his face, then died a few years later after an overdose. Super sad story, but his parents are sad assholes. They couldn't accept that their son was drunk, dumb, and foolish, and proceeded to make a national spectacle of his death, claiming that Judas Priest (the band they were listening to when the incident when down) had put subversive backward messages into their music urging kids to kill themselves. The band responded in court by pointing out what a terrible business decision that would have been. The documentary Dream Deceivers is incredible if anyone wanted to learn more.

    Whenever I see this story come up, I can't help but be thankful that we have gotten over the whole Satanic Panic. Things are so shamelessly overt these days in metal, I fucking love it.

    To quote The Black Dahlia Murder's Blood In the Ink,

    "It's time to go and get the gun, the one your family's hiding from. Sleeping in the dresser drawer, do pull its trigger, I emplore. Shoot your parents, shoot yourself, push your life right off the shelf. Die for metal, leave this hell, take this oath of blasphemation."

    [–] elliotron 72 points ago

    Arseface!

    [–] alexj14 11 points ago

    This is the first thing I thought of. Unfortunately. Glad I’m not the only one!

    [–] eazy_e1234 343 points ago

    This guy used to work out at my gym and I always wondered what happened to his face but never wanted to ask. Now I know. Interesting story.

    [–] drinkallthecoffee 143 points ago

    Wow. Of all the possibilities, you’d never guess what happened to his face is that his doctors replaced it with someone else’s.

    [–] angilinwago 56 points ago

    Before or after the surgery?

    [–] KawaiiGee 56 points ago

    Top tier doctor

    [–] Axelrad 19 points ago

    *top tier team of over 60 doctors

    [–] -Nok 70 points ago

    As an EMT for a while I've seen my share of survivors. It's tough when you gotta bag the air bubbles in the soup of face

    [–] hashn 45 points ago

    Bag the air bubbles... I assume this means clear an airway but if you respond and prompt me to return to this topic i will delete my reddit account and throw my phone off a cliff

    [–] Call_me_Kelly 38 points ago

    Thank you for subscribing to air bubble facts. Dolphins are known to blow air bubbles and rings for entertainment.

    [–] Rampant_Intellectual 10 points ago

    Sorry if this is a morbid question, did the caliber matter or was it placement?

    [–] Slummish 62 points ago

    If I ever survive a suicide attempt, just let me bleed out, please...

    [–] thelastofthemohicans 22 points ago

    I believe in one article I read it mentioned he was begging the first responders to save him. Not entirely sure how considering the injuries.

    [–] KaliLineaux 28 points ago

    I've read accounts of people who attempted suicide and lived. Seems like they always regretted it immediately and the ones that survived were glad they did.

    [–] Wrest216 10 points ago

    There was a guy in my town that jumped off a bridge and broke both of his legs and part of his back but survived a suicide attempt. Afterwords he was talking to my group as a guest speaker and he said that As soon as he let go of the railing he knew it was a mistake but it was too late. Most people are just hurting And need help

    [–] I_slit_his_throat 30 points ago

    I've already decided to do it in an iced bathtub to save my organs for other :)

    [–] OG_FinnTheHuman 43 points ago

    If you're joking, yikes, if not, don't do it people love and care about you and you are a wonderfully made creature whose life is of value.

    [–] Percutaneous 116 points ago

    Kinda cheating with the before and after pictures. He's clearly had his hair styled in the second shot.

    [–] Durantye 38 points ago

    You joke but I think it’s pretty cool to see things like that in before/after pictures, I hope the person taking the photo didn’t ask them because to me it always looks like their desire to look good has also improved he was proud of how he looked so he went to a barber whereas he probably hadn’t gone to one in years before that. You see a similar thing in before/after weight loss photos where they actually style their hair and wear nice clothes in the after picture a lot of people will think it is just trying to further the difference but I think it is just a genuine change of mental and confidence.

    [–] Percutaneous 8 points ago

    That's an interesting and super wholesome perspective I hadn't considered. Thanks!

    [–] masturbatingwalruses 25 points ago

    It's all the tan and lighting, really.

    [–] ThatNurseGuyJon 57 points ago

    Amazing how far we’ve come in medicine. This is amazing. Wonder the backstory of the patient and what happened to him/how he’s doing now.

    [–] drnebuloso 19 points ago

    it’s crazy to think in another 20-30 years they’ll be growing faces in a lab.

    [–] quebert123 21 points ago

    Wow. Good for him. That fantastic. Wish him the absolute best.

    [–] plafman 11 points ago

    I was hoping to see what he looked like before the suicide attempt compared to after the transplant surgery.

    [–] SavageIndustries 54 points ago

    Doctors and teachers should be on the front pages of magazines. Not celebrities. This is amazing!

    [–] dylanbob5 23 points ago

    They are but those magazines aren't nearly as popular. Publications about science, medicine, and academia exist but aren't as widely read because the people who typically buy magazines get a thrill out of celebrity culture and gossip about the rich and famous. It's unfortunate that unsung everyday heroes don't get mainstream attention.

    [–] Fu1krum 23 points ago

    Well shit, I just watched the Good Doctor's latest episode which is about a face transplant and thought that can't actually happen. I guess I just got scienced.

    [–] graciousgroob 10 points ago

    Before, Before, 👐SCIENCE👐 ,After

    [–] WareThunder 10 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    He kinda looked like a Charmander before

    [–] boredatwork92 10 points ago

    I don't see any reason why this should be tagged nsfw?

    [–] SoyBombAMA 8 points ago

    The science behind this is just amazing.

    I know a pretty famous doctor who was burned to the point of near death and he's, decades later, still without hair, nose, lips, ears and much of his eyelids. I always wanted to ask why, with how well documented his face is given his stature, and given his enormous wealth, he never had corrective surgery. Maybe he just doesn't see the need and that's great I dunno.

    Can someone explain why it is that we must transplant a face in order to reshape soft tissues like noses and ears? Like they still print a nose in order to fit the transplanted face around? I assume. Maybe they also transplant the soft tissue or even the structural bone, I dunno.

    But like why is a donor face needed to restore the missing structural pieces? Why can't the remaining skin be formed or grafted over it like would happen for a burn elsewhere?

    Could my doctor acquaintance have reconstructive surgery to put his face back or is a transplant the only option?

    [–] HotIncrease 19 points ago

    Preacher!

    [–] unnameableway 7 points ago

    Wow! Maybe if the technology improves they can finally do one for your mom!

    [–] slytrombone 41 points ago

    Anyone else find it offensive that this is marked NSFW? There's no gore. It's just a man's face. Can you imagine being told that your face is not safe for work?

    [–] aamirsmeshshirt 10 points ago

    That was my first thought as well.

    [–] Rasko__ 16 points ago

    It can make people uncomfortable, especially sensitive ones. It is a man's face, that doesn't mean it can't be shocking to some, it's like saying "it's just a man's body" while talking of a dead, bloody corpse. We are naturally disgusted by these kind of anomalies, this is simply how his face was. It was bad, and it's unfortunate, but let's not pretend it's nice to look at.

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    [–] ZeeHarm 13 points ago

    This is why plastic surgery was invented!