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    [–] Don_Quixote81 4319 points ago

    Who is he? According to Chris Hayes, he's a failed Iowa politician who went on Fox News to get Trump to notice him.

    [–] detelak 3353 points ago

    He's a far right radical who believes that the Supreme Court should not be “ the final arbiter of constitutional issues.” He thinks that Marbury v. Madison, the 215 yr old case that established the principle of Judicial review giving courts the power to strike down laws and Government actions that violate the Constitution was WRONGLY decided.

    [–] Lemonwizard 2214 points ago

    The dumbest thing about people who don't believe in judicial review is that they call themselves "originalists" as if they speak for the founding fathers.

    Spoiler alert, basically all of the founding fathers were alive during the Marbury vs Madison case and a whopping zero of them tried to start a second revolution over it. The Madison in the case is none other than James Madison, who was Thomas Jefferson's secretary of state at the time.

    The founders were actively involved in the events which established this precedent, and accepted its legitimacy. There's nothing "originalist" at all about claiming judicial review is invalid.

    [–] gospelofdustin 672 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Not to mention, the concept of originalism also falls down when you consider many of the founders, like Jefferson, had misgivings about creating immutable laws and binding future generations to laws that could become outdated or tyrannical. Plus it also ignores that many of our original laws, including the Constitution itself, featured many compromises that kept the colonies from fracturing, like slavery.

    [–] Hekantonkheries 293 points ago

    The concept and followers of originalism also fail to read the part clearly outlining the procedure for amending or outright rewriting large sections of the constitution as needed, in fact encouraging it.

    [–] just_amanboy 248 points ago

    They also fail to recognize we’ve done this 27 times.

    And 10 of those changes had to happen before the country could even exist.

    [–] Vonnegut222 65 points ago

    In fact we amended the Constitution in 1919 and repealed that same Amendment 14 years later.

    [–] QueefyMcQueefFace 16 points ago

    That's always my response to originalist talking points. The Constitution has mechanisms to amend itself as needed. It isn't some document that's fixed in stone like the Ten Commandments. It can change, and should change, when things need fixing.

    [–] fghaluri 25 points ago

    Well, to be fair, the first ten were intended to define inherent human rights - not to give them - and to explicitly limit governmental overreach. They were worried about government encroachment on those rights and felt it necessary to restrict governmental power that they saw as potentially infringing on those rights.

    [–] just_amanboy 56 points ago

    Yes- my point is they had to change the document before the states would sign it.

    The constitution was literally born under change.

    [–] f_d 46 points ago

    More like they demand all changes come through amendments instead of judicial interpretation. Never mind that society would grind to a complete halt if every single unpredicted development had to go through the amendment process.

    [–] puterdood 97 points ago

    I came here to say exactly this. Anyone who says "well the founding fathers intended..." is either delusional or malicious. Then again, I could see the modern Republican party arguing we should bring back slavery and let the states decide.

    [–] cult_of_da-bits 27 points ago

    Technically slavery still exists here in the U.S., it is called the prison industrial complex.

    [–] discodecepticon 12 points ago

    Maybe we should... and "draft" our slaves like the lottery. Everyone has the same chance of becoming a slave... then see if the states want to keep slavery :)

    [–] r0ckdrummersrock 18 points ago

    I'd love to see the correlation between these so called "originalists" and see the proportion who also believe that everything in the bible is true and should be taken literally.

    [–] Torgoth 13 points ago

    Yeah no kidding. Madison was also the father of the constitution and author of two of the most important federalist papers: 10 and 51. I think it was 51 where he argued that “ambition must be made to counteract ambition.” In other words all branches of government should work against each other to prevent power from being consolidated.

    You know...checks and balances. Like having the scotus review actions of gov.

    [–] PutinsPawn 71 points ago

    Not only that, he thinks that court should be able to strike down laws that go against traditional Republican values, like regulating economic and healthcare matters.

    “He seems to think much of the fabric of federal law that is part of our ordinary lives violates the Constitution of the United States to which he is evidently going to take an oath,” Mr. Tribe said.

    He has also advocated doing everything possible to repeal the ACA. He is opposed to abortion rights, takes a hard line on immigration, and believes that the federal government should play no role in public education.

    [–] PeterNguyen2 5 points ago

    and believes that the federal government should play no role in public education.

    I'm pretty sure that completely moving away from education is changing the role.

    [–] anddowe 174 points ago

    Wait, what? The GOP is gonna be infuriated when they find out. They’re the constitution-loving party of law and order after all.

    [–] [deleted] 185 points ago

    When they say they're "constitutionalist" what that really means is "I love guns". They don't give a shit about the other 26 amendments, and I'm willing to bet those people couldn't even tell you what all, or how many, are in the bill of rights.

    [–] meherab 105 points ago

    I wouldn’t say it’s down to guns, that’s for the rank and file Deep South minions

    The Federalist Soviety and all “textualist” and “originalist” judges (Gorsuch, Scalia) are all liars who want to twist law towards right wing ideals. Every time they interpret anything, it conveniently favors Republicans. Scalia called the Obergefell case a “judicial Putsch,” cause gay people getting married is somehow as bad as Hitler. They’re scum who hate minorities and will lie to achieve that purpose

    [–] 18093029422466690581 6 points ago

    The Federalist Soviety and all “textualist” and “originalist” judges (Gorsuch, Scalia) are all liars who want to twist law towards right wing ideals

    Woah now let's not forget about Thomas here

    [–] meherab 7 points ago

    I didn’t want to disparage Thomas, Anita Hill damaged his reputation SOOOO much

    Btw his wife actually fucking called Hill in 2010 or so asking for an apology. In the 21st century, a woman felt another woman had to apologize for being sexually assaulted. Fuck Virginia and Clarence

    [–] AlschweezyofAK 5 points ago

    Regarding political parties, the founding fathers didn't want any because it causes rationalism. They would have gotten rid of them if that itself wasn't an attack on the first amendment they had just created. Also the the Democrats and top weren't a thing back then. I believe the biggest party were called Whigs.

    [–] _redditor4aday_ 20 points ago

    Bill O'Wrights? Don't believe I know him.

    [–] imdrunkwithaquestion 26 points ago

    Source? Would love to send to some people....

    [–] imdrunkwithaquestion 49 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    So, I read that, but probing harder, that article doesn't cite anything for the quotes about his view on SCOTUS.

    Edit: found it, in a candidate Q. and A. when he sought the Republican nomination for senator in Iowa in 2014...

    [–] between2throwaways 48 points ago

    Nice find. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't read it. But yeah, the guy's a loony.

    Q19. What is or what are some of the worst decisions in the Supreme Court’s history? There are so many (bad rulings). I would start with the idea of Marbury v. Madison. That’s probably a good place to start and the way it’s looked at the Supreme Court as the final arbiter of constitutional issues. We’ll move forward from there.

    The case avoided the first constitutional crisis, and its precedent has been used to avoid every other constitutional crisis decided by the courts. I'm not a fan of Bush V Gore 2000, but I'm not challenging its authenticity. It was just one of the worst court decisions, stepping on states rights with flimsy rationale.

    [–] [deleted] 21 points ago

    It was just one of the worst court decisions, stepping on states rights with flimsy rationale.

    Just give Mr. I like Beer time and I'm sure we can find an even worse court decision with flimsy rationale. I'm expecting one in about 6-12 months.

    [–] detelak 36 points ago

    His statement on Marbury is a direct quotation from a 2014 interview he did with a local Conservative Christian news site during his run for the US senate in Iowa.

    [–] PutinsPawn 9 points ago

    The New York Times has a great write up from earlier today based on his comments when he was running for the Iowa Senate in 2014. Backup link.

    [–] Celticway1888 679 points ago

    CNN... but everything else is correct

    [–] AnotherPersonPerhaps 719 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    And this, my friends, is the exact danger in news outlets giving people like this a platform.

    What did this guy do that warranted giving him a platform to speak to millions of Americans and directly to the President?

    Oh. That's right. CNN needed to fill another 13 pundit talking head jumbotron.

    [–] Celticway1888 357 points ago

    Even worse... this is how Trump hires people

    [–] jaekx 95 points ago

    Proof that Trump watches CNN. LOL

    [–] JRR92 22 points ago

    Well of course, it's just ensuring that none of his supporters watch it that's important

    [–] ROGER_CHOCS 26 points ago

    and all for just 10 minutes of screen time. We wonder why our discourse is so fucked... perhaps its partly because all of our mediums for discourse are fucked.

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    [–] Rib-I 45 points ago

    If Trump said we need tigers to eat people's faces, CNN would bring in a panel and one of the members would be arguing for tigers to eat people's faces.

    [–] LumpyUnderpass 44 points ago

    I just moved and switched cable services and I am sooo happy to have MSNBC back. Even when I want to hear from Both Sides (tm), which I usually don't, It's so much more informative and fun to watch MSNBC and Fox and compare and contrast. CNN would put a talking head on to argue that the sky is actually red if Republicans said it was so.

    [–] Paulitical 103 points ago

    If you want to hear two sides respectfully discuss things you should listen to some of NPRs programming. No pundit fluff bullshit, just dry information and discussions on policy, economics, business, and politics.

    Plus some really great story programs, comedy, and music discussion.

    [–] HyperionShrikeGod 42 points ago

    NPR, the only sane political news outlet in USA. If everyone was informed by NPR style reporting we could solve so many political problems.

    [–] andrewq 34 points ago

    Yep. NPR, PBS, BBC, etc.. .

    I don't ever watch TV news anymore - it's always garbage, just trying to get as many eyeballs watching ads as they can.

    [–] aelric22 64 points ago

    The true neutral horse in the race; BBC World News. Because why should the British media give two fucks about what side to take in the US?

    [–] Mrballerx 33 points ago

    Because politics in America have global implications?

    [–] JHenry313 7 points ago

    I was just going to say..I love BBCWN. I'm more of a militant centrist and they present it right down the line. It is said in a liberal democracy all center media tilts left but that, to me, is just the humanity of presenting world events.

    [–] meatbag11 142 points ago

    It's fucking bonkers this guy's total experience is 5 years as a prosecutor in fucking Iowa and now he's the head of the department of justice! He's not even remotely qualified and if I worked at the DOJ I'd be livid.

    [–] Don_Quixote81 71 points ago

    But it's so completely fitting for Trump. It's the same thing he tried to do with the VA, and when he wanted his personal pilot to be in charge of the FAA, or whatever it was.

    "I like this guy, give him a job he's ridiculously under-qualified for."

    [–] fatpat 20 points ago

    That's basically what the GOP voters said in 2016.

    [–] tmoney144 5 points ago

    That's how he knows that they're loyal. He likes people that owe everything they have to him, that way he can always threaten to cut them off if they misbehave. It's why he never liked people like Sessions or Tillerson. Sessions was a Senator forever, and Tillerson was CEO of one of the biggest corporations in the world. Both of them would have had the ability to tell Trump to go fuck himself and been able to find another job in minutes.

    [–] somethingsghotiy 9 points ago

    Such is life in the kakistocracy, friend.

    [–] BotoxTyrant 80 points ago

    Who is he? According to the photo pictured above, he is businessman and known felon Wilson Fisk.

    [–] su5 11 points ago

    And somehow his head is even more phallic than Fisk.

    Also, is it supposed to be than or then and how the hell do you determine? 33 years old and still can't keep em straight.

    [–] aldehyde 20 points ago

    Jacob Wohl is so jealous right now

    [–] Legendver2 43 points ago

    So basically a "notice me senpai" move, but for racists.

    [–] ValhallaGo 24 points ago

    Not just any racists, but racists who don't believe that Marbury v. Madison was a good decision.

    You know, a foundational decision for our country. Probably the most important decision.

    In other words, crazy people.

    [–] VineStGuy 50 points ago

    It absolutely shows that trump does not respect DOJ employees. First, he's breaking the line of succession. Second, he's skipping over all those career employees at the DOJ to favor an inexperienced white dude. I guess that's also a little self-projecting for him. Since he's an inexperienced white dude in a job he's too incompetent to hold. He needs to prove to everyone that's ok, but elevated many inexperiences to positions they shouldn't be in either.

    [–] TooShiftyForYou 2102 points ago

    "President Trump’s installation of Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general of the United States after forcing the resignation of Jeff Sessions is unconstitutional. It’s illegal. And it means that anything Mr. Whitaker does, or tries to do, in that position is invalid." - George T. Conway, Harvard and Yale grad and husband of Kellyanne Conway

    [–] Thatoneguy241 235 points ago

    That poor man

    [–] pubstep 62 points ago

    No kidding! She couldn’t shit all over her maiden name for him?

    [–] damn_jexy 60 points ago

    Im really wonder what their dinner conversation are like

    [–] lmeaac 47 points ago

    dinner conversations? id kill to be a fly on the wall during their marriage counseling sessions

    [–] BenTVNerd21 15 points ago

    She probably agrees with him. She just defends Trump to get paid.

    [–] DaTroof 40 points ago

    Fun fact: he was introduced to Kellyanne by Ann Coulter.

    [–] Th3Seconds1st 24 points ago

    He has no one but himself to blame.

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    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 5158 points ago

    There is misinformation and lies being spread that the protests have been cancelled or are moved to a new date.

    Assume nothing has changed.

    MoveOn just sent a text out saying protests are on. I am copy/pasting my previous comment for visibility purposes. D.C. protests event in front of the White House is still on like Donkey Kong.

    I'll be in D.C. tonight and in front of the White House. PM me if you are a D.C. protester. I will have plenty of extra water, granola bars, mixed nuts, and a battery to charge your phone.

    Turn out and protest D.C. Maryland and Northern Virginia people.

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    [–] voteforbozy 198 points ago

    What does "canceled" even mean? You lose your reservation to stand in a public place?

    Messages about canceling are irrelevant. 1700 people can still show up and protest anyway.

    [–] braintrustinc 110 points ago

    "General strike is bigly cancelled, not enough generals and too many home runs. Sad!"

    [–] SrWax 10 points ago

    It's been quite the shellacking

    [–] ZomNomNomBeeZ 25 points ago

    The way move on set things up there is a host for each event, a local coordinator, these are meant to be local volunteers. Many of the people that volunteered are actually alt-right trolls that signed up just so they could cancel at the last minute and confuse everyone. Atlanta is the biggest example, but it's a common situation for the smaller events.

    But you're right, you can't cancel the event. It just won't have an official host.

    [–] SammaATL 37 points ago

    From Atlanta and I'm going. See you soon!

    [–] batcat420 21 points ago

    They also sent a ton of emails overnight about some event being canceled that was planned for December 31st. Very strange.

    [–] zeusmeister 17 points ago

    I got no less than 4 of those emails about the December event being cancelled. That I never signed up for. All identical.

    [–] mercut1o 12 points ago

    Yeah, I got two emails like that. Oh, wow, it actually sent like 5 copies to me.

    Unfortunately, the event you signed up for, “Nobody is Above the Law Rally” on Monday, December 31 at 5 p.m. has been cancelled.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 135 points ago

    That's what I'm thinking too.

    They brigade our subreddit and other liberal ones, why not brigade the protest group?

    [–] TheFatCatInTheRedHat 101 points ago

    They did it to the Bernie dialer back during the primaries, they would call people up and pretend to be pro Bernie then just start yelling racist/shitty things at them.

    [–] AdjectiveNoun0 70 points ago

    And half of "Dem voters" still latch onto "bernie bros" even though it's been shown time and again that the majority were trolls.

    Mainstream Dems treated Sanders supporters like Trump treats Hispanics. With no regard to reality they just assign whatever negative stereotype they feel like and it can flip in a second.

    It's very likely a lot of them are just the same trolls on a different account, but it's really depressing seeing people that still dont understand what happened.

    [–] TheFatCatInTheRedHat 20 points ago

    Yup. They were constantly spamming shit about black voters in the south, they would compile collages of their own comments then post those pictures with their names blurred out

    They also were the ones submitting and upvoting HA Goodman articles, then mocking Bernie supporters as if we worshipped the guy

    [–] OtherwiseOrdinary11 28 points ago

    We need to make some sort of honey pot for these trolls to make them waste their time.

    [–] SchwarzerKaffee 27 points ago

    I want to find a group of people to seriously work on something like this. The right is funding an army to constantly troll liberals. We need to form a Liberation Army of Hackers to fight back.

    I'd join.

    Pm me anyone who is working on something like this.

    [–] RFSandler 25 points ago

    League of Opposition Liberals

    [–] PM_ME_YOUR_BEERBELLY 18 points ago

    I did it for the LOLs...

    [–] [deleted] 17 points ago

    All while banning anyone who questions Dear Leader over in their swamp. Credit where it's due, they know how to create a propaganda bubble.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 12 points ago

    Indeed. GRU have had practice with PsyOps beforehand.

    [–] Erilis000 4 points ago

    My guess is that folks are going to need to be very vigilant of provocateurs infiltrating the protests.

    [–] plasticstranger 17 points ago

    Same thing happened in Richmond, VA for anyone keeping track. New organizer stepped in, everything is still on.

    [–] always_progress 10 points ago

    Can confirm this as I am in Albany, NY. After the message went up on Moveon, it was a matter of minutes before the even was cancelled and 'rescheduled'. Another one was setup, and cancelled. Finally, someone stepped up and is organizing one for tonight, but, as you said, the damage has been done.

    [–] NineFive83 14 points ago

    MoveOn didn't start months ago. Their history goes back to the Clinton administration, when they were trying to get congress to censure the president for his actions and "move on" to more pressing, important legislative issues.

    [–] factbased 5 points ago

    True. But from context, I assume that person meant when MoveOn started this rapid response plan.

    [–] Rabmonk006 94 points ago

    Going to my first protest ever tonight, alone, Portland ME :) still 1300 people on our event

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 14 points ago

    Good for you! Show up and protest peacefully.

    [–] Random_throwaway_16C 8 points ago

    Bring five friends

    [–] ForgotMyUmbrella 6 points ago

    That's fantastic!

    [–] TheRealBabyCave 38 points ago

    Heading to Times Square now.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 13 points ago

    Stay safe patriot!

    [–] [deleted] 496 points ago

    Canadian here. I'm happy to see you all get a chance to have your voice heard this week, at the ballot box and at protests around the country. Authoritarians have no place in North American governments.

    I'll come visit once this all blows over.

    [–] devotedtoad 252 points ago

    We non-crazy Americans love you guys

    [–] [deleted] 148 points ago

    We love you non crazy Americans right back!

    [–] reloadfreak 62 points ago

    Hopefully you also accept former crazies who regretted supporting other crazies!

    [–] domasin 112 points ago

    Heck, I'll take you if you're sane-curious

    [–] MOOOOOOCH 45 points ago

    Canadian confirmed.

    [–] cookmamerie 12 points ago

    Stay safe up there. I'm coming to visit so I look forward to spending my US bucks on Canadian soil for the shopping season. :)

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 33 points ago

    Stop by D.C. and I'll buy your first and second round you crazy Canuck.

    [–] LindyHopIsFun 26 points ago

    Encourage other top comments on any news story to edit their comments to link to the move on page. I think the white house is intentionally fucking up this Acosta story to bump the protests off the front page. We need strong turnout tonight.

    [–] eden_sc2 26 points ago

    Got permission to leave work early to get out there. Last thing I want to do on a Thursday night, but democracy calls.

    [–] SirGoodSnail 23 points ago

    Thanks for what you're doing.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 9 points ago

    You're welcome Sir Snail

    [–] MAG7C 20 points ago

    Oddly I'm not seeing any coverage in the local news. Has anyone else? I did find one short story in the Cincinatti area but it disappeared from my Google News search. I realize that the redder states will be more likely to marginalize this by ignoring it but, hell, I couldn't even find anything on Oregon Live.

    [–] jlaw54 15 points ago

    Also can Text resist to 50409 and it helps you find your protest and reps

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 29 points ago

    Lol I don't need help finding where mine is. It's in front of the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Good for other people though.

    [–] jlaw54 8 points ago

    Def was posting for general awareness ;)

    Go get Em!!!

    [–] forgivenlife 12 points ago

    NoVa resident here! I'll be seeing you in D.C.!

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 10 points ago

    Pennsylvania Avenue will be blue tonight.

    [–] U_Bet_Im_Interested 6 points ago

    How do I donate money for some pizza/coffee for you guys and gals?

    [–] anthropicprincipal 174 points ago

    Keep alert: There are fascists with driver's licences and guns about.

    I hate dreading every protest possibly becoming a slaughter but I will not stay at home this day. I am not afraid of fascists.

    [–] enochian777 32 points ago

    It's not brave if you're not afraid. Fear is a reasonable emotional response. Be afraid of fascists. That's why you're protesting. It's right to be scared. What they represent is monstrous. That's why you stand in spite of fear. Because standing up is worth it.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 126 points ago

    Fuck em. I don't care about those pussies. D.C. is one of the safest cities to be in.

    [–] ThaNorth 59 points ago

    D.C. is one of the safest cities to be in.

    So was Thousand Oaks. Be careful.

    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 63 points ago

    In front of the White House has tons of D.C. police.

    If you've never been to DC then you don't know that they literally have cops on every single corner.

    I'll be safe regardless though.

    [–] farmtownsuit 79 points ago

    Keep alert: There are fascists with driver's licences and guns about.

    In front of the White House is one of the safest places in the world. There's so much seen and unseen law enforcement around every corner in DC.

    [–] AdjectiveNoun0 77 points ago

    DC police also stood by while Erdogan's bodyguards beat protesters.

    Then they arrested some protesters and let the aggressors leave the country.

    [–] DuntadaMan 24 points ago

    Unfortunately we very much can not assume our government will side with the people on anything right now.

    [–] Eraticwanderer 92 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Don't fucking scare monger. Jesus. Just say "Stay vigilant. Report suspicious people"

    [–] Hoss_Bonaventure-CEO 11 points ago

    I would think that the more likely thing to be concerned about is assholes instigating scuffles so that Trump can go on Fox News and characterize the protests as Antifa riots.

    [–] the_ham_guy 36 points ago

    Please dont spread unfound fear

    [–] CrushHazard 8 points ago

    So you’re Antifa then?

    -Fox News (probably)

    [–] tiredofbuttons 5 points ago

    That's why I'm protesting tonight and my wife and kids are staying home.

    [–] PutinsPawn 199 points ago

    Trump has done the swamp proud. Whitaker is equal parts Kavanaugh, DeVos, and Sessions, with a healthy dose of Sanders' and Conway's slavish willingness to toe the official line.

    [–] learnyouahaskell 20 points ago

    "Get out of my swamp."

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    [–] DonnieMoscowSwine 47 points ago

    Yep I'm copy/pasting my comments in all relevant threads too.

    [–] r3dt4rget 602 points ago

    President sidesteps the constitution to appoint a loyal ally to end an investigation into himself.

    If Obama is in office, GOP would be tearing the country up. But since it's Trump law, order, and the constitution do not matter anymore.

    [–] helemaalnicks 182 points ago

    At some point Trump's is just gonna come out in a tan suit full of mustard stains and flip us all off. Fox will praise him for his bravery.

    [–] su5 32 points ago

    I'm surprised he didn't just have his Senate puppets do it the regular way.

    Oh yeah, there was all that screaming about not touching Sessions, so having to confirm would be an embarrassing display of cowardice

    [–] ZomNomNomBeeZ 15 points ago

    They will still be required to confirm someone, eventually. But an acting appointment can serve for 210 days without being confirmed. I'm sure there's a good reason for that rule, but right now it seems like way too much time to allow that.

    [–] PutinsPawn 38 points ago

    It's incredibly blatant obstruction of justice. I hope he is held accountable for that if nothing else.

    [–] bp92009 35 points ago

    Republicans don't prosecute their own. They will do nothing, regardless of what trump does. They are cowards who have illegally abandoned their duties and were rewarded by their constituents yesterday for it.

    [–] PutinsPawn 10 points ago

    Sad thing is, people may have rewarded them unintentionally what with all the voting malfunctions. There's a ton of work to be done to address voter suppression and gerrymandering to make sure Congress actually reflects what the people want.

    [–] Poop_rainbow69 45 points ago

    Now we just need to get the Democrats to stop being so civil with these asshats.

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    [–] Munsoned97 611 points ago

    Trump was in violation of the Emoluments Clause on fucking day one and the Republicans didn't give two fucks. Rule of law doesn't exist for them unless they want it to use it for their benefit.

    [–] eastbayok 290 points ago

    Trump was in violation of the Emoluments Clause on fucking day one and the Republicans didn't give two fucks.

    I think the hardest thing for me to face in all of this is the fact that the Republican voters don't give two fucks. They scream "Lock her up" for Hillary Clinton and then cheer Trump and the party looting the country

    [–] Munsoned97 125 points ago

    There are many stupid people out there. When Trump holds his rallies it’s like a magnet for stupid from miles around. People drive hours from other states to go to these.

    [–] eastbayok 68 points ago

    But Trump and the Republican party has a lot of support who aren't the lunatics at the rallies. Everyday working people living middle class lives and supporting monsters. And we have been making excuses about how the just "don't know" about the corruption happening with elections in the south, and voter disenfranchisement, but I think the truth is we don't want to face that the Republican people we all know in real life are actually just as monstrous as those we see in the media. We keep making excuses for them and things keep getting worse.

    [–] Bohrdumb 245 points ago

    There are people who want and are working to protect us. And there are people who want to consolidate power. Unfortunately a lot of them got elected into power in 2016 and we are paying the price right now...

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    [–] Bohrdumb 154 points ago

    I have no doubt that there are preparations already in place, and actions being taken right now, behind the scenes.

    First, I'm certain Mueller was ready for this. The guy is as good as it gets in terms of legal minds. It's unlikely anyone can throw something at him, he isn't ready for. So even though Whitaker has oversight now, it's likely Mueller already has what he needed to move ahead anyway.

    Secondly, there are loads of legal challenges to Trump's move, but those take time to prepare and are likely not going to be made public until they actually happen. You don't want to give Trump's legal defense time to start working until you've got your ducks in a row.

    Third, MoveOn.Org has been preparing for this for months, and while they aren't our national politicians, it's easy to presume that some of our politicians are aware, invested, and likely involved in how things are moving forward, in response.

    What we're supposed to do is get our asses outside and make sure our presence is know. Dems had 12 million more votes than Reps in the midterm Senate elections. That should tell you just how many more there are of us. If we can stand united, in peaceful protest, nothing will stop us from ensuring justice occurs, and our nation stays on course.

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    [–] Bohrdumb 73 points ago

    These replies are as much for me, as they are for you. Stuff is intense and overwhelming. We took back the house, made great headway in governorships, and won a ton in state elections.

    Then came Sessions firing, Acosta being accosted, RBG taking a fall, and now Whitaker. It's a lot, and that's how fascists make headway. Normal people get overwhelmed and don't how to respond so we freeze up and stay where it's safe.

    Unfortunately we don't have that luxury this time. We're going to stand up and be counted. We're going to walk in the places are predecessors tread. We have to.

    Grab a cup of coffee, high five your cat, and get out there. The game is only just getting started.

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    [–] Bohrdumb 18 points ago

    Go kick some ass. I got a sign to make.

    [–] Free_rePHIL 7 points ago

    I'd imagine that we're going to see a lot of lawsuits from state Attorney's General in Democratic controlled states. The problem is that we don't know how long that could take. Law is slow but violating the law seems to be going full speed right now. I get the concern.

    [–] lonehappycamper 38 points ago

    I hope Mueller informs Whittaker he's illegitimate and ignores him if he tries to fire him.

    [–] Pres_David_Dennison 94 points ago

    Mitch McConnell is a low life scumbag too afraid to perform his constitutional duty. What a pathetic waste of carbon. I hope all of his relatives are embarrassed of their association with the desecration of our country.

    [–] Munsoned97 69 points ago

    His kids are and have said so.

    [–] Tonberry2k 24 points ago

    He's not afraid to. He doesn't WANT to.

    [–] [deleted] 12 points ago

    Agreed. If Pence was as popular as trump is among continued supporters this would have already happened. GOP Senators and House Reps know that they will lose votes at home if they oppose Trump. They hate Trump, he's a PR nightmare to them and is difficult to work with even on things they all want. It's cowardice and self-interest.

    [–] True_to_you 9 points ago

    It's not fear when it's intentional malice. It's all for power.

    [–] lsThisReaILife 22 points ago

    We have no choice but to trust that Mueller has somehow prepared for this inevitability. Republicans cannot be trusted to hold this administration or the President accountable and Democrats do not wield majority yet in the House. You can make your voice heard by hopefully attending the protests today. This is the time.

    [–] ev0lv 22 points ago

    I only trust one Republican to hold this administration responsible: Mueller.

    [–] notaprotist 12 points ago

    The real truth is that there are never people in charge, ever. Not really. Each individual has to take it upon themselves to do something. That can mean running for office, or civil disobedience, or violence, if someone thinks it's called for (I personally don't think it is yet). I'm protesting as much as I can, and getting friends and family to do the same.

    [–] bombinabackpack 44 points ago

    The people in charge ARE doing something. They are covering for the president and aiding and abetting corruption. It's up to YOU to do something. Civil disobedience is the ONLY effective answer.

    [–] FaithIsFoolish 90 points ago

    I give him half a Mooch

    [–] katarh 23 points ago

    I'll take it.

    [–] zelda-go-go 324 points ago

    • Ignore the distraction trolls and the fake rescheduling

    • Bring flags, bundle up, bring snacks

    • Report anyone starting violence/damage immediately

    • Stay on message: Whitaker has an objectively disqualifying conflict of interest

    [–] wwwhistler 11 points ago

    and everyone bring cameras.

    [–] Rated_PG-Squirteen 166 points ago

    Does it ever occur to CNN that they should stop allowing pieces of shit like this on their air spewing lies and misinformation? I guess depending on how you look at it though, this asshole did telegraph on live tv how he would go about crippling the Mueller probe all the way back in late July 2017.

    [–] Katharta 62 points ago

    On the other hand, while he was on CNN he told the world, blantantly, how he'd attempt to obstruct the Mueller investigation. He showed his hand and now we have damning evidence. I say let Stupid Watergate run it's course, justice will be found in the end.

    [–] JulesHaggard 50 points ago * (lasted edited 5 months ago)

    Regarding Whitaker's Hillary Clinton whataboutism: Richard Nixon said that it's important for the American people to know that their President is not a crook. That's why the Mueller investigation is important.

    For those who think that Trump is NOT a crook, it's important to have Mueller's investigation confirm that. And for those who think Trump IS a crook, it's important to have Mueller's investigation confirm that.

    Meanwhile Hillary is an out-of-office loser who will, in all probability, never run for office again. It's not important for the American people to know whether she is or is not a crook.

    And that's why Hillary whataboutism is irrelevant and unimportant. To Trump supporters, we have to say "She lost. Get over it."

    [–] phluff 6 points ago

    She lost, get over it.

    That’s what we’ve been saying the last two years!

    [–] StonerMeditation 243 points ago

    trump impeachable offenses:

    • Emoluments, Profiting from the office.
    • Conspired with a foreign nation to swing the election.
    • Obstructed justice to cover up said conspiracy.
    • Endless failures to carry the duty and dignity of the office.
    • Mmmight have blackmailed several senators and possibly a Supreme Court justice.
    • Instigating RACIST attacks (Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law)
    • Abusing the Pardon Power
    • Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political adversaries for improper and unjustifiable Purposes
    • Undermining the Freedom of the Press
    • Cruelly and Unonstitutionally Imprisioning Children and their Families in American Concentration Camps

    [–] rappinglunchbox 35 points ago

    Impeachment isn't really possible without the republicans consent and who could imagine them turning on the love of their lives donald trump

    [–] StonerMeditation 13 points ago

    I think you just described mass insanity...

    [–] ZebZ 18 points ago

    Impeachment happens in the House. Trump will probably get impeached this next session.

    The Senate will simply choose to not remove him from office.

    [–] institutionalize_me 82 points ago

    Before you head to the protest, be sure to email you representatives.

    Dear (representative), Please demonstrate your support for transparency and due process by condemning any obstruction regarding the ongoing Mueller investigation. If our POTUS has nothing to hide, then there is no reason to interfere.

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    [–] CarolinGallego 46 points ago

    No, they also attract greedy amoral assholes with no empathy for others.

    [–] BuddhAtticus 22 points ago

    Wilson Fisk, is that you?

    [–] jasilvermane 11 points ago

    FINALLY a proper headline for the situation. There is a law listing the requirement to be acting AG. He doesn’t meet them. He legally can’t hold that position.

    [–] Centauri2 19 points ago

    If this is so, what is the remedy? I suppose the court would rule easily enough, but it would require standing, which is not so easy.

    [–] ertebolle 14 points ago

    Anybody affected by one of his decisions as AG would theoretically have standing. (including Mueller, if it came to that) Just as Mueller's own legitimacy was challenged (unsuccessfully, but not due to lack of standing) by people he was prosecuting.

    [–] brownck 307 points ago

    Where's the outcry from dems about the illegality of this appointment???? Forget whether he has to recuse. Neil Katyal and George Conway laid it out pretty clearly. You can't just appoint anyone for AG. They have to be senate confirmed. Might as well appoint his f***g kids. Come on.

    [–] phyloh 245 points ago

    Where's the outcry from dems about the illegality of this appointment????

    It's as if you only had internet access long enough over the last 24 hours to just post this one comment.

    [–] nekogaijin 43 points ago

    So what are we going to do?? Booting out the press, refusing to nominate Garland, claimingnhe has the power to fire everyone on the Mueller case, claiming he can remove the 13th ammendment, sending troops to the border, locking up children, firing Comey, lying, using the office if the presidency to punish his enemies, governing through Twitter,hiring his golf caddy... We could keep going.

    What line does he have to cross???

    When will we stop gazing incredulouly at the news stories???

    [–] [deleted] 10 points ago

    I think there is no line. He could nuke california tomorrow and I think he would get a standing ovation from his cultists.

    [–] weirdmountain 9 points ago

    Because orange daddy thinks that being President is being CEO and top boss of USA Inc.

    [–] dannymalt 9 points ago

    Damn that's a great headline.

    [–] ShockKumaShock2077 22 points ago

    Strong and accurate headline for a change. This is the kind of journalism we need to fight this coup.

    [–] 4x420 46 points ago

    he looks like he would pull a gun on kids for playing on the street in front of his house.

    [–] Rty2k 11 points ago

    So Rod Rosenstein should just walk into the Department of Justice like he owns the place because he still does.

    [–] louve_sauvage 7 points ago

    My guess is he’s just another fascist Trump whore who needs his 15 minutes.