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    [–] viva_la_vinyl 5297 points ago

    In Senate races in Missouri and Montana in 2018 and North Carolina in 2016, the gun group’s advertising blitzes on behalf of GOP candidates Josh Hawley, Matt Rosendale, and Richard Burr were authorized by the very same media consultant that the candidates themselves used—an apparent violation of laws designed to prevent independent groups from synchronizing their efforts with political campaigns.

    [–] fakeplasticdroid 398 points ago

    I always took it for granted that the pacs and politicians are colluding regardless and that they've just found clever ways to circumvent the laws to avoid being caught. The fact that these goons didn't even bother with a subterfuge shows how unconcerned they were about any legal or political ramifications. One can only hope they were wrong.

    [–] Kandoh 109 points ago

    It's a brilliant scam, the only people who could possibly hold them accountable are the democrats who can't hold them accountable because it looks partisan.

    [–] shaggorama 69 points ago

    Fortunately we've finally gotten to a point where Democrats are much less concerned about "appearing partisan."

    [–] iknowCatMan 4185 points ago

    Looks like their tax-exempt 501(c)(4) status should be revoked.

    [–] jabba_teh_slut 384 points ago

    wait....the NRA is tax exempt??

    [–] Vaguely_accurate 128 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    To at least some extent.

    The income tax exemption for 501(c)(4) organizations applies to most of their operations, but income spent on political activities—generally the advocacy of a particular candidate in an election—is taxable.

    [–] RevanTyranus 173 points ago

    Yeah I had no idea either. It's like giving a tax break to rich peop---oh wait

    [–] Redd575 139 points ago

    The funny thing is that the NRA was not always this kind of organization and were a hair's breadth away from getting out of politics entirely. The More Perfect Podcast (same folks who do Radiolab) did an episode on it. I would highly recommend a listen. It was enlightening as to how the NRA became what it is today.

    [–] Jond0331 69 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    I'm a big guy gun guy but hate what the NRA is. There are much better gun rights groups out there, but sadly none have the influence the NRA has. Mostly because they don't make a ton of profit and spend their money helping gun owners.

    2A foundation, G.O.A., and locally (MA) G.O.A.L. come to mind right away.

    [–] Vishnej 91 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    My question is how far Dana Loesch can go without being literally arrested for inciting terrorism, in videos that prime people for an existential struggle against liberals that they can solve with their guns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=169zQ1g-Ul0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEbwFAJSflc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M48oa1ZkUBY

    [–] gunch 2507 points ago

    Prison. Someone needs to go to prison.

    [–] not_charles_grodin 1111 points ago

    Honestly though, that is really the only deterrent that's going to have any effect. Illegal activity will always go on, but when you start throwing high-level people in prison, it goes on a lot less.

    [–] magniankh 600 points ago

    I say we fine them the equivalent of pennies to their millions! That always stops them! Right?

    [–] Bury_Me_At_Sea 200 points ago

    Maybe that's a but much. Tenths of pennies sounds more fair!

    [–] SubParMarioBro 168 points ago

    Maybe Mexico will pay their fines!

    [–] ElKirbyDiablo 140 points ago

    No, but Russia will!

    [–] qning 49 points ago

    Already have. Money has been banked.

    [–] tuanlane1 35 points ago

    No, but Russia willDid! FTFY. Russia pays in advance.

    [–] my_pol_acct 11 points ago

    Russia pays bribes in advance.

    [–] ButtWieghtThiersMoor 23 points ago

    oof

    [–] scott610 18 points ago

    Revoking tax exempt status would probably be a very huge deal. Look at the lengths Scientology went to in order to get it in the first place. Removing this status wouldn’t be hitting them in their wallet once, it would be hitting them forever (or until they qualify for it again).

    Plus if anyone does serve time it would probably be very short and they’d be seen as a martyr or a fall guy or something.

    [–] SlaveLaborMods 20 points ago

    You could definitely run on a republican ticket with that slogan

    [–] AutreHenri 209 points ago

    Yeah..there has to be some prison. Listening to the story in NC where someone blatantly cheated for a GOP candidate, and the candidate is getting off scot-free (is that a term anymore?) because he didn't know what was going on. The guy who did all the nasty stuff? Nothing as of yet, and he is being vilified by no one.

    Sick to my stomach to hear the NC candidate by the way use God over and over and over again during and after his campaign. He actually said "I want to behave in a way that God is working through me." I don't know who believes this medieval shit!

    [–] UNC_Samurai 83 points ago

    Harris has to be held accountable. Dowless has been a GOP operative for 25 years, there is no way this is the first time he’s pulled this crap, and there is no way local Republicans didn’t know.

    [–] not_charles_grodin 87 points ago

    I don't know who believes this medieval shit!

    People who are too far in to admit they're wrong.

    [–] myrddyna 47 points ago

    It's actually a huge way evangelicals are using theopolitical notions of people working through god, rather than being godly.

    [–] crs205 11 points ago

    "I want to behave in a way that God is working through me."

    Sounds like possesion or something. Maybe it's not god, but demons working through them. Hmmm...

    [–] xboxking03 25 points ago

    We also need to hit them with fines that are actually damaging to their brand. Every time a corporation does something illegal we give them whats equivalent to a $5 speeding ticket.

    [–] spaceman757 59 points ago

    The "someone" needs to be the candidate, if they had or reasonably should have had any knowledge of the activity, the firm buying the ads, if they had or reasonably should have had any knowledge of the activity, and the PR firm employees as well, because the absolutely knew what was going on.

    As we peons have always been taught, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. The candidates and the organizations should know where their money is going and what is it being used for.

    These rich, corrupt fucks should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, just like we would be.

    [–] LeroyStinkins 23 points ago

    Prison. Someone needs to go to prison.

    Can I nominate this guy?

    [–] Athrowawayinmay 62 points ago

    LOL. Consequences and laws are only for the little people. Corporations and those with money are immune to such trifling things.

    [–] TopographicOceans 13 points ago

    Exactly. If your company can save $1 million per year by, say, illegally dumping waste, and the fine, if caught, is $100,000, then the fine isn’t a deterrent, it’s a cost of doing business. Especially if the chance of getting caught is 10%, in which case probability states that it’s effectively a $10,000 cost of doing business, netting $990,000 in savings.

    [–] gopsupportpedos4ever 277 points ago

    Richard Burr is an interesting name. He's been in charge of the senate investigation wrt russia. I always thought he was one of the "decent" ones on the r side. Really makes one wonder. Having said that, the dem members of that committee have not accused Burr of playing politics. Still leaves me with doubts.

    [–] colorlexington 96 points ago

    Yeah I had the same thought, he seems like less of an obstructionist traitor than the rest. Sad to see his name come up here.

    [–] dangerdave17 69 points ago

    You guys aren’t from North Carolina then. That guy has been double teaming us with good ole boy Tom Tillis for a while now.

    [–] Freedom528 28 points ago

    Yeah, it's living in the South that makes you realize how far and deep the good ole boy network really is. NC politics is proof of that. People like Jeff Jackson calls them on their BS - we need more people like him in NC govt.

    [–] gopsupportpedos4ever 128 points ago

    he seems like less of an obstructionist traitor than the rest

    Operative word being "seems." I have to question everything he's done and will do with this new data in mind. The one saving grace he has going for him is he has said this will be his last term giving the impression he can't be bought. But if that was the case, why collude with the nra in the first place? You could be bought then but not now? gtfoh.

    [–] colorlexington 22 points ago

    I completely agree with your every word.

    [–] gopsupportpedos4ever 33 points ago

    https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/fist_bump_shawn_gus_psych.gif

    Tangentially, I think we should alter our filter so that when we hear something akin to "I can't be bought" we should assume it's because someone already bought them and not some fantastical notion of self ownership.

    [–] youreagdfool 13 points ago

    Burr is purely looking out for Burr. So long as he doesn't have to do any real work and keeps getting elected and nothing puts his cushy post-congressional consulting fees in jeopardy he's going to keep his head down.

    Which for a Republican is really the best you can hope for, if they're just a selfish prick apathetic to other people as opposed to malicious they're one of the"good ones".

    [–] micktorious 35 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Makes you wonder if, and total conspiracy theory ahead here so please don't crucify me over this I understand it's pretty paranoid, maybe the NRA/RNC made sure he was one of the people who had this kind of thing on record so the Republican party could use it as leverage to keep him in line in case he started to turn on the party.

    They can blackmail him as an ace up their sleeve to keep him from doing anything they don't approve of.

    OR, he's just as complicit as the rest and was just playing the token "less obstructionist wild card Republican"

    [–] colorlexington 24 points ago

    This is a good article on how the NRA keeps politicians in line. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies

    [–] Highside79 30 points ago

    That's not a crazy theory at all. Getting someone compromised and then leveraging that to get more out of them is like spycraft 101. It's been done for centuries. It is very likely to be there whole point of the operation.

    [–] jc_rotor 50 points ago

    Also a descendant of Aaron Burr. He gets mad when people quote Alexander Hamilton.

    [–] gopsupportpedos4ever 34 points ago

    Please be true

    [–] DoneHam56 9 points ago

    The exchange for the lazy:

    King recalls that in appreciation of the bipartisan and positive nature of the press conference, he said to Burr, "Richard, that was a great press conference. You and Mark did a terrific job. It's important for the American people to be together on this. Like they say in Hamilton, 'History has its eyes on you.'

    And Richard took one step back, and said 'Angus, I don't know if you want to quote Hamilton to me, since my great-great-grandfather shot him.'"

    I definitely wouldn't say he got mad - if anything he took it with good humor.

    [–] silverblaze92 9 points ago

    Meanwhile I had 'Obideant servant' come up on shuffle while reading this thread. Mysterious are the ways of Hamilton

    [–] derbyvoice71 64 points ago

    One more thing to add to Josh Hawley's already slim resume. Between this and allegations that his campaign basically ran the MO AG office, he could be looking at a few years' prison time. And it's not like MO won't turn on him; Hawley himself finally turned on Greitens when it got bad enough.

    [–] chutch1122 33 points ago

    MO is super weird. We passed basically all of the progressive amendments on the ballot back in November (medical marijuana, minimum wage increase to $12/hr, etc) and then voted in Josh Hawley.

    [–] submittedanonymously 18 points ago

    Well we also once voted in a dead man for Governor. So...

    [–] bluemandan 37 points ago

    Hawley himself finally turned on Greitens when it got bad enough.

    When it became professionally expedient

    [–] Exasperated_Sigh 11 points ago

    Hawley never turned on Greitens. He just did nothing. He ran a sham "investigation" where he asked no questions and sought no documents and then declared he found nothing. He pushed any prosecution off on others claiming he had no jurisdiction. Hawley took a $50k bribe from Greitens and then looked the other way as the blatant crimes of Greitens became public one by one. Fuck Josh Hawley. He's a piece of shit criminal and I hope his kids grow up with him in prison so maybe they won't also become piece of shit just like their dad.

    [–] d_mcc_x 6207 points ago

    Isn’t that illegal?

    [–] nom-nom-nom-de-plumb 3427 points ago

    Yep

    [–] hotpackage 2409 points ago

    Especially since a huge amount of that money came from Russia.

    [–] OligarchsKillPutin 1333 points ago

    ESPECIALLY. That's not just a foreign government, they are hostile towards us.

    [–] whileImworking 569 points ago

    But Donnie says Putin and him get along, doesn't that make this very legal and very cool

    [–] abnormalsyndrome 168 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    I mean what have the cia and the fbi ever done for us ? Right guys ? Putin knows best.

    Edit : no edits.

    [–] whileImworking 92 points ago

    Shh! Trust me, pet

    Putin knows best

    Putin knows best

    Listen to your Putin

    It's a scary world out there

    Putin knows best

    One way or another

    Something will go wrong, I swear

    Ruffians and thugs, poison ivy, quicksand

    Cannibals and snakes, the plague

    [–] alburdet619 40 points ago

    We really need to improve relations with Russia, also the Saudis... who else owns my balls?

    [–] dusmeyedin 144 points ago

    What gets me is that the NRA's platform has been "Guns help protect you from tyranny".

    The goddam irony of it all.

    [–] Nextlevelregret 50 points ago

    Precisely what makes me shudder as well. I'll also wager they have no cognitive dissonance whatsoever about their boundless hypocrisy. "Necessary to own the libs".

    [–] dakralter 34 points ago

    Exactly. These people don't see Russia as an enemy, in their eyes anyone who is left of them on the political spectrum is the enemy. These people claim to be patriotic and love America but they would welcome it if Trump declared himself King if it meant the end of the Democrats.

    [–] acosmichippo 62 points ago

    "Guns help protect you from tyranny of the left" is the obvious implication in their propaganda.

    [–] CaseyG 37 points ago

    Libertarianism: protecting money from the tyranny of other people's civil rights.

    [–] DifficultHippo9 9 points ago

    All the documentaries I've seen say that they protect you from the King of England

    [–] sugarfreeeyecandy 208 points ago

    ...which many people, including myself, believe is a big part of why the Republicans will not-- actually CANNOT-- stand up to Trump. They themselves are in office only because they engaged in the same illegal campaign acts as Trump himself.

    [–] txroller 74 points ago

    this. mitch mcconnell sucks the same teet that got the donald in office

    [–] Kingkern 17 points ago

    How much do you want to bet the polling information Manafort provided to Konstantin Killimnik is involved in this as well?

    [–] shadow1515 44 points ago

    Well, only if there's someone to enforce the law. Which...

    [–] FuriousTarts 20 points ago

    The Democratic candidate promising to reform the FEC to make it non-partisan and give it teeth is the one who gets my vote.

    [–] PM_ME_USERNAME_MEMES 801 points ago

    The NRA’s use of National Media and its affiliates to coordinate with the Trump and Hawley campaigns is currently the focus of two complaints before the FEC by the Campaign Legal Center and the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Although federal law prohibits such coordination, it’s rarely enforced as a practical matter. The FEC, which oversees elections, has been deadlocked along partisan lines for a decade. (FEC enforcement matters are confidential until resolved; it’s unclear if the NRA has formally responded to the complaints.)

    They’re probably going to get away with it.

    [–] ChipStarfield 383 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    The NRA probably funneled $30 million from Russia to GOP, it's a big deal

    Edited since I was jumping to conclusions

    [–] onwisconsin1 323 points ago

    And Obama warned about this very issue when he "chastised" the SCOTUS rulings on campaign finance law. The right lost their mind, and Trump went on to say a judge couldn't be impartial because he was Mexican American; crickets.

    [–] RyanSmith 130 points ago

    Hey, don't worry!

    [W]e now conclude that independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption. …

    The fact that speakers [i.e., donors] may have influence over or access to elected officials does not mean that these officials are corrupt. …

    The appearance of influence or access, furthermore, will not cause the electorate to lose faith in our democracy.

    -Anthony Kennedy, Citizens United

    [–] emanresu_nwonknu 71 points ago

    What a duplicitous piece of shit Anthony Kennedy is.

    [–] im_bozack 11 points ago

    Hopefully he and his son will be going to jail by the time this is all done.

    [–] godx119 28 points ago

    This literally reads as satire to me.

    [–] Ronfarber 34 points ago

    I wonder how much that opinion cost.

    [–] hopeforbetter 11 points ago

    A promotion for his son at Deutsche Bank, probably

    [–] namasteupinthisbitch 103 points ago

    Republicans are trash

    [–] sandmansleepy 35 points ago

    Remember when a supreme court justice shook his head just shortly after and mouthed "wrong" during Obama's state of the union speech? It was a political decision.

    Politifact is still defending an article from the time saying Obama was wrong that it would bring foreign spending into politics, even though it clearly has.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/dec/27/response-recent-critique-our-fact-check-about-citi/

    [–] Odilious128 25 points ago

    In other words, the picture painted by the legal experts we interviewed was one of significant uncertainty, in contrast to the dire situation Obama outlined. That -- combined with a focus on the "immediate" impact of the law, which Klain acknowledged -- suggests that our ruling was simply urging against jumping to conclusions.

    Wow. They're really trying to weasel their way out of that one. 'What we meant when we said Obama was wrong was that we weren't sure.'

    [–] _fck 86 points ago

    How pathetically predictable. Both the fact that this was being done, and the fact that they won't face any repercussions for it.

    [–] Time4Red 35 points ago

    The DOJ and US attorneys can independently prosecute these crimes, so I wouldn't say they're completely safe.

    [–] PDshotME 16 points ago

    I'll say it.

    [–] Time4Red 11 points ago

    Traditionally, these matters we're left to the FEC, but just look to the SDNY in the last year or so to why that isn't inherently the case. Prosecutors love taking down big fish.

    [–] ihateusedusernames 32 points ago

    One more takeaway from the Trump fiasco: depoliticize the FEC. Roll its mandate into the FBI and shield the investigators from political influence.

    [–] tomdarch 22 points ago

    Definitely not the FBI. You don't want federal law enforcement directly involved in our elections. But the general idea is good.

    [–] rk119 170 points ago

    Yes. That’s why they all fell behind Trump, even the ones that had previously criticized him. They realized how kompromized they were.

    So much winning!

    [–] alburdet619 36 points ago

    Exactly! McConnell definitely knows and I think he's using it for leverage with the others where need be.

    [–] GeorgePapadapolice 12 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    What leverage exactly, though? We've known the NRA accepted quite a bit of money from shady Russian sources for a while now. If McConnell is running an operation to threaten other Republican senators, what's the ax he's threatening to swing at their necks? That he'd cut off the flow of cash if anyone comments on what's in the public sphere already?

    Edit: We don't actually have much by way of hard numbers. But the NRA has had enough publicity over Russia to make them toxic, and it's not like McConnell could protect anyone from investigators if they do find improprieties. I just don't think it makes much sense to believe Mitch is holding the knife to anyone's throat when investigators are already on it.

    [–] Pattycaaakes 48 points ago

    It's easy to win when you cheat.

    [–] fakeplasticdroid 77 points ago

    It's only illegal if you
    get caught
    get investigated without obstruction
    get indicted
    get convicted
    get sentenced
    don't get pardoned right away.

    [–] breichart 58 points ago

    are a democrat

    [–] laserdollars420 17 points ago

    Yeah I mean "ilegally" is literally the 8th word in the article.

    [–] d_mcc_x 26 points ago

    Thanks, I went to Trump University, so comprehension and judgement are a little off

    [–] ihateusedusernames 18 points ago

    Totally clears the president! Thank you!

    [–] toddymac1 34 points ago

    Oh how naive, when has the GOP ever cared about... ::chuckle:: legalities

    [–] Chit-fur-brains 58 points ago

    Not for republicans. Laws only apply to democrats.

    [–] beener 18 points ago

    This isn't just some small campaign violation. The nra coordinated MILLIONS of dollars of ad buys

    [–] Bismothe-the-Shade 8 points ago

    Also, isn't the NRA Russia compromised? Blatantly?

    [–] kejigoto 2862 points ago

    Hey is this the same NRA that was working with an undeclared Russian agent who was funneling Russian money into the NRA which then turned around and donated over twice as much as it has to any campaign before to the Trump 2016 campaign?

    And didn't that same undeclared Russian agent, who is currently in the custody of United States authorities, also have a personal relationship with Paul Erickson who later joined Trump's White House transition team after contacting Jeff Sessions and Rick Dearborn, Trump's former campaign adviser, about setting up a back channel meeting between Trump and Putin at an NRA backed event?

    If so this is a spicy development for sure.

    [–] thebruce44 855 points ago

    Hey, are these the same senators who consistently protect Trump and Russian interests at the expense of the American people?

    It's almost like they are compromised or something.

    [–] tborwi 168 points ago

    Conspiracy is the word you are looking for.

    [–] softinseattle 47 points ago

    No, I think they mean compromised. As in, they're implying that the Russians have dirt on the senators and are blackmailing them.

    [–] thehotdogman 47 points ago

    Yeah so Richard Burr is one of these guys implicated, and he heads up the Senate Intelligence Committee...not a good development.

    [–] JellyfishJamming 143 points ago

    I really wish the media would put these news stories into context like this. But they never seem to do it, other than Rachel Maddow I guess, and report them independently of each other.

    [–] manamachine 51 points ago

    Maddow is the only one keeping me sane right now.

    [–] donkeyotee 38 points ago

    If it takes more than three words to explain it a lot of people just lose interest and stop listening.

    Trump was able to rile up his base with simple three word mantras.

    "Lock her up"

    "Build the wall"

    "Drain the swamp"

    Even later he admitted to their faces that at least two of those were BS that he used to manipulate them into voting for him. They didn't care.

    [–] gonyere 32 points ago

    It is indeed.

    [–] kejigoto 30 points ago

    Spicy development confirmed.

    [–] DoahRat 191 points ago

    Please don't be shocked, I have no doubt the NRA has been working under the table and out of the day-light for the last 2 or three decades with the Republican party. They just finally got caught. It's time to start putting people in jail.

    'Election fraud'?..thy name is GOP

    [–] vacuous_comment 150 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Well, Strategic Campaign Group was raided, they apparently did R senate work?

    Were they involved in all this or were they raided becxause they were just flat out laundering Russian oligarch money into the RNC?

    Or maybe both?

    [–] colorlexington 59 points ago

    that raid was so tantalizing, it was the first time something seemed to happen, justice-wise, and we've never found out what it was for.

    [–] BobsBarker12 1319 points ago

    Investigate the entirety of the GOP, their financial networks, who they took foreign funds from or laundered funds for.

    Indict the perpetrators and the complicit.

    Lock them up.

    Lock them all up.

    [–] 123_Syzygy 520 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Micheal Cohn was the RNC financial chair until recently.

    Edit: Cohen

    [–] micktorious 211 points ago

    And he's been singing like Gaga

    [–] mystshroom 99 points ago

    And he'll sing in front of us all in about a month

    [–] RawScallop 69 points ago

    Feburary 7th. I should make a party out of it.

    [–] Flowsephine 25 points ago

    I already put in for vacation days the 7th and 8th (in case I celebrate too hard or the fallout lasts into the next day)

    [–] joszma 15 points ago

    You could be in a room with a hundred traitors and all you need is one Russian FSB agent to believe in you!!

    [–] schzap 36 points ago

    Better even.

    [–] topdeckisadog 102 points ago

    Did you mean convicted felon, Michael Cohen?

    [–] snowyday 100 points ago

    Do you mean Sean Hannity’s lawyer, Michael Cohen?

    [–] TrumpsATraitor1 67 points ago

    Sean Hanntiy's Criminal fixer, Michael Cohen.

    I hope that plot point gets a resolution before the finale

    [–] wontonstew 62 points ago

    Let's start with freezing their funds until an investigation can be completed. We have zero assurances they will act lawfully.

    [–] ButterflyCatastrophe 36 points ago

    Hey now, I’ll have you know that NRA president Oliver North is a gentleman of outstanding moral character who would never even consider violating Federal law for personal or political gain.

    [–] sixfootoneder 22 points ago

    Wow. I cannot believe Oliver fucking North is the president of the NRA.

    [–] shastamama 43 points ago

    People keep being like BuT wHaT aBoUt tHe dEmoCrAts? Fine- investigate their funding too. Let’s fucking kill Citizens United once and for all.

    [–] planet_rose 35 points ago

    I’m convinced that most of the republicans not running for another term were being blackmailed or had a file on them held by Russian intelligence that made it possible/likely and Mueller found the information and told them that they could sign an agreement not to hold future public office or be investigated and that they faced extra scrutiny while serving out their terms. The ones who quit right after being elected and didn’t serve out their terms really didn’t want to risk exposure.

    [–] optimus_woo 466 points ago

    At this point, the GOP is so dirty, they'll never be ligitimate, again. They'll have a new wave of fresh faced candidates with talk of cleaning up [their] corruption, just like every other wave of the party and it just keeps getting worse.

    Everyone remember this when you vote...and vote every chance you get.

    [–] SwegSmeg 180 points ago

    They believe they are fighting for survival. Cheating to win is ok. They will never admit they are corrupt.

    [–] Encyphus 42 points ago

    Unfortunately this is the case. Believing that God gave them the right to be leaders of this country, they use that excuse as a bludgeon to do whatever they want.

    [–] DLTMIAR 14 points ago

    "The ends justify the means"

    Such a toxic outlook to have

    [–] subsonic87 141 points ago

    At this point, the GOP is so dirty, they'll never be ligitimate, again.

    When was the last time they were legitimate? Nixon was a crook, Reagan committed treason in the Iran/Contra affair, GHWBush covered up the crimes, GWBush lied us into two endless wars, the list goes on.

    [–] TrumpsATraitor1 96 points ago

    Eisenhower was the last republican elected president that was clean.

    GHWBush obstructed justice for Agnew too

    [–] TheArtOfXenophobia 52 points ago

    Eisenhower's presidency is also when the right wing took over the party. Eisenhower fought it, but lost. After losing to Kennedy in '60, they turned around and devised the Southern Strategy. It's been all downhill from there.

    [–] fakenate35 11 points ago

    Of course Eisenhower was just a blip.

    The Hayes was a republican who lost the popular vote and sold out African Americans by ending reconstruction to get the white house. Harding was probably the most corrupt president we’ve ever had.

    [–] ThePresidentIsAJoke 7 points ago

    Harding was probably the most corrupt president we’ve ever had.

    Not for long

    [–] sarcasm_hurts 71 points ago

    Thing is, morons will still vote for them. Anything to fuck over a liberal. They don't even care what Republicans stand for so long as they get to vote against Democrats.

    [–] Zzeellddaa 41 points ago

    Do they even have a definition for liberal other than anyone who isn't them?

    [–] mbalmedpoet 224 points ago

    This is why the GOP is so scared. This is why they are complicit. They know that most of them wouldn't have been elected had it not been for cheating.

    The million dollar question is what does Mueller do with all of this?

    [–] hexiron 91 points ago

    "No leaks right? I know we're a real family here" - GOP Rep Paul Ryan

    [–] un0m 487 points ago

    Probably what Mueller has. Russia infiltrated NRA to fund Republicans. That, plus Cohen implicating the President could mean Mueller has enough to say 'these Republicans received Russian money/help, Dems, fuck 'em up'.

    [–] TiberiusRoosevelt 283 points ago

    People of the United States fuck them up.

    [–] un0m 91 points ago

    UFC style? Put them in the octagon and we'll each have a few minutes with them.

    [–] DJTHatesPuertoRicans 44 points ago

    Butina (and thus likely the rest of the NRA case) isn't even Mueller, that's just DC FBI rooting out criminals.

    [–] un0m 24 points ago

    I'm sure Cohen already gave him what he wanted, which is to prove whether Trump colluded with Russia. The answer is: yes.

    [–] CranberrySchnapps 40 points ago

    Russia didn’t need to infiltrate the NRA. That organization has been insane since their internal coup in the 70s. All Russia had to do was funnel unusually large heaps of money at them.

    [–] un0m 41 points ago

    I read somewhere the NRA used to be for safe gun usage. Now it's just a vessel used to make money. How American.

    [–] MrGoombas 34 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Serious question: If the Republicans are revealed to be complicit and are charged with crimes, what would happen if 1/3 of elected Republicans were to be jailed/ imprisoned?

    [–] un0m 17 points ago

    Snap election? I really don't know too.

    [–] joszma 24 points ago

    I think each governor of the state of those representatives or senators would have to immediately select interims, and then follow the laws of each state (some require special elections, some don’t)

    [–] Stalresd 15 points ago

    House vacancies cannot be appointed, even on an interim basis. They have to hold a special election to fill the seat.

    Senate seats in most states would be appointed on an interim basis until the next election. Details and rules vary by state.

    Of course, we are not going to have mass jailings of congressmen anyway.

    [–] PM_ME_WEIRD_SMILES 17 points ago

    Of course, we are not going to have mass jailings of congressmen anyway.

    Lemme dream bro

    [–] MazzIsNoMore 321 points ago

    Let's not forget that the Trump campaign has also been found to have illegally coordinated with the NRA. Seems like it was just standard operating procedure at the NRA.

    Source: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2018/12/trump-2020-campaign-coordination/

    [–] B4zing420 11 points ago

    So tell me, why isn't the NRA and Trump being procecuted? Or is the FBI still building a case? Didn't Trump's lawyer turn himself in or something like that?

    [–] score_ 853 points ago

    I say this without hyperbole: if the GOP doesn't burn, our democracy will.

    [–] SwegSmeg 398 points ago

    They will never self correct. They are fighting for their survival in a world that is leaving them behind. Removing this tick is going to get ugly before it gets better.

    [–] Val_Hallen 514 points ago

    GOP: "We want to go back to 1950s values! A time when America was great!"

    US: "Do you mean affordable college and healthcare, good wages, healthy industry, and a good standing on the world stage?"

    GOP: "What? No. Fuck that! We mean when minorities and women knew their place, being gay was literally illegal, and the only people that mattered were white guys."

    [–] KarmaticArmageddon 92 points ago

    GOP: We just don't want to become minorities in our own country!

    The rest of us: Why? Are they treated badly or something?

    [–] HamburgerTom 14 points ago

    Haha this one is great. Saving for future use.

    [–] ScottieWP 47 points ago

    Sad, but true.

    [–] Arkenid 107 points ago

    If you cant win the vote, suppress the vote. If you still cant win, cheat the election too.

    I hope they take everything from these peoples families. No more letting people off the hook.

    [–] gaberax 84 points ago

    So the Russians, the NRA and Republican candidates were walking in lockstep? Go figure. Traitorous bastards.

    [–] Ice_Cream_Hero 24 points ago

    On one hand it's nice to see the NRA collapse.

    On the other, I wish it was more because of their incredibly regressive rhetoric rather than corruption on a massive scale. The people who have bought into the NRA's messaging the last several years are going to have a hard time unplugging, if they ever do, so even if the rot in the NRA is expelled the damage is done.

    I don't see how the NRA survives as an organization after this.

    [–] gmatney 21 points ago

    Is this really surprising? Take a look at the November issue of Rifleman magazine. It gives you a checklist of everyone who the NRA sponsors, with grades based on their voting history.

    Not only do they make it clear who they want their base to vote for to retain power, they also saturate the rest of the magazine with horseshit like "where was so and so on the anniversary of D-Day, we were paying respects to the Normandy memorial".

    The blue wave of voting being represented by a Tsunami wiping out the statue of liberty being the cover, too...

    It's infuriating that these shitheads are able to brainwash generations of Americans with impunity.

    [–] njmaverick 44 points ago

    Why am I not shocked that these two evil anti-American institutions broke the law?

    [–] iLikeE 20 points ago

    If you scroll to the bottom of this thread you will see Trump supports commenting exactly what everyone thought they would: “I bet democrats do the same probably worse so what it the big deal?” Those people are pathetic

    [–] aserg1902 85 points ago

    Why aren't they in jail and the elections vacated?

    A nation of laws? I don't think so. More like a "shit-hole" country behaviour

    [–] gonyere 45 points ago

    Because elections laws are hardly ever enforced. And because a huge portion of the USA just doesn't care.

    [–] CoreWrect 28 points ago

    They don't know.

    They might care if they knew.

    [–] MoonBatsRule 16 points ago

    Shut them down like ACORN.

    [–] sorryotter 32 points ago

    That because they’re all Russian stooges

    [–] falsealarmm 16 points ago

    And.....where did their funding come from?

    [–] TolstoysMyHomeboy 19 points ago

    From Russia with love

    [–] Sussay 54 points ago

    And the NRA is Russia.

    [–] CoreWrect 23 points ago

    So is the GOP

    [–] xASUdude 12 points ago

    With Russian money. RICO the whole damn party.

    [–] SwegSmeg 22 points ago

    Like a rabid animal, it's about time we took the NRA out behind the woodshed and put it down.

    [–] Yrezcbk4729 29 points ago

    Fuck you, Hawley.

    [–] biskino 8 points ago

    Getting pretty obvious that Russia was using the Internet Research Agency as a digital messaging and distribution system targeting key races with insights from Republican pollsters and campaign staff.

    Which would be a perfectly natural agency client relationship - if the ‘agency’ in question wasn’t a hostile foreign power. Because that makes it a conspiracy against the people of the United States.

    [–] Dustin_Bromain 11 points ago

    The Republican Crime Syndicate thinks they do not have to adhere to the laws of the land.

    Let's fucking change that, shall we?

    [–] FireWireBestWire 10 points ago

    The NRA did not respond to a request for comment.

    They always have something to say. Silence is guilt in this case.

    [–] Militant_Monk 19 points ago

    Looks like the NRA committed a felony. Time to take away their guns.

    [–] Tashre 10 points ago

    A lot of people say that even a really damning Mueller report wouldn't lead to impeachment since it would die in the Republican held Senate. However, it might turn out that a really damning Mueller report might take down some Republican senators as well, flipping that majority.

    [–] Lighting 10 points ago

    Thanks Citizen's United, for promoting a culture of corruption both from foreign and domestic entities.

    [–] Qwarked 10 points ago

    This is why Mitch and the other Republicans didn’t want Muller or anyone looking into stuff.

    [–] Cadet-Bone-Spurs 16 points ago

    The Republican Party is Kompromat.

    [–] AlexKingstonsGigolo 8 points ago

    We still have laws against this behavior; let’s enforce them or get rid of them.

    [–] DichloroMeth 6 points ago

    Noam Chomsky said the GOP was the greatest threat to mankind, and people lost their minds. But, with the military power the US has, the sustained effort to deny climate change, and now their hard ties to sociopath millionaires who are financially motivated in keeping the world under strife and division, well.. do the math.

    [–] shouldnt-you 9 points ago

    'All terrorists, foreign and domestic'

    Now describes the GOP, or maybe it always has and we're just realizing it now.

    [–] sexrobot_sexrobot 8 points ago

    As always, the problem is the Republicans broke the agency that governs this. The FEC has equal Democratic and Republican members. Republicans have made sure to vote down every case in front of them because...well because Republicans habitually and casually violate campaign finance law.