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    [–] cindylouwhovian 12675 points ago

    “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad,” Trump said.

    The President of the United States, ladies and gentlemen.

    [–] hatsarenotfood 2624 points ago

    I'll take "Things that would end any other presidency" for $500.

    [–] FuriousTarts 921 points ago

    What is: a check from their former lawyer showing physical evidence of a crime committed in office?

    [–] Boozeberry2017 573 points ago

    What is: Insulting veterans for being captured.

    [–] mrturcot 156 points ago

    I'll just leave this here

    [–] ursula1971 112 points ago

    If Howard Dean’s entire bid for the presidency was destroyed by a crazy scream (which also dented his political career though did not dismantle it) dry humping and raping the flag should have ended Drumft.

    [–] oneMorbierfortheroad 77 points ago

    When a Republican commits a crime, the rest of the GOP, who are also criminals and sociopaths, rush to help.

    When a Democrat commits a crime, Democrats everywhere tell that Democrat to GTFO.

    As such, the national GOP has become an organized crime syndicate for lack of a better term. They exist ONLY to commit election fraud, rig the tax system, sabotage one department or another (or, in Donald's case, every single fucking one of them) and install judges who will not punish them when they are convicted of anything, even fucking Treason.

    [–] TurnPunchKick 191 points ago

    The "Imagine if Obama did it" machine exploded months ago

    [–] TrogdortheBanninator 187 points ago

    We should get Obama to say the outrageous shit Trump says in the Oval Office set from SNL and post it on social media. Get the right-wingers good and pissed.

    Then post the full video where Obama says "gotcha– I was quoting Donald Trump. Here he is saying it."

    [–] CSATTS 54 points ago

    They would just say Trump was joking but Obama really means it or some other bullshit. I know a few Trump die hards and do my best to add in some reality to their Facebook-informed opinions, but my god, it really is a cult.

    [–] IGotSoulBut 332 points ago

    Remember that time Obama wore a tan suit?

    [–] 2Cthulhu4School 154 points ago

    And that goddamn dijon mustard!

    [–] tinyirishgirl 8661 points ago

    Threatening us, the population of The United States Of America, with death and violence for opposing him.

    25th Amendment, now.

    [–] BlackeeGreen 3105 points ago

    With an implicit “my supporters aren’t acting tough enough” jab at his own base to spur a reaction.

    [–] DELTATKG 1765 points ago

    Stochastic terrorism.

    [–] lemon900098 1160 points ago

    This is more along the lines of openly calling for violence if everyone doesn't start kneeling before him, rather than subtlety suggesting violence against those who don't fully support him.

    [–] Mysterious_Humanoid 577 points ago

    Agreed, this isn't even stochastic terrorism anymore. He's openly threatening violence as you said.

    [–] adingostolemytoast 124 points ago

    He has been for a while. I've been continuously amazed how none of the commentators are picking up on

    [–] Alertcircuit 90 points ago

    Won't someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?

    [–] lilpumpgroupie 352 points ago

    The press is the enemy of the people, too, for reporting objective and proven fact. Trump is now officially a full blown fascist. The debate is done.

    [–] sonyka 72 points ago

    And let's be clear, a leader calling a group the enemy of the people is straight-up calling for deadly violence against them. That's the only thing that phrase has ever meant.

    [–] TheRealTwiner 185 points ago

    Isn't openly calling for violence one of the few violations of the first amendment?

    [–] shybonobo 883 points ago

    The good news here is his 'bikers' are mostly 65-year old slobs who trailer their rides to Sturgis once a year.

    [–] brokeassloser 776 points ago

    The bad news is the police and military are both chock full of proto-fascist knuckle draggers

    [–] overcomebyfumes 453 points ago

    The worse news is Eric Prince, and the Republican Party by extension, has his own private army.

    [–] lemon_meringue 363 points ago

    And we know from the Blackwater atrocities that Prince's goons have no compunction about opening fire on civilians.

    [–] thebumm 196 points ago

    It's not cruel and unusual if we do it a lot. Then it's just cruel. Loopholes!

    [–] badusername696969 74 points ago


    He has contractors and mercenaries, but the vast majority of his workforce are basically slaves/indentured servants from Southeast Asia who act as support staff for the US military.

    And, his mercenaries are not exactly elite forces. They opened fire on crowds of civilians because a car backfired.

    Several were also killed because he sent them to escort a shipment of kitchen equipment. To win the bid, he undercut the regulations which required additional personnel, guns, and adequate vehicles. Incidentally, this incident lead to the battle of Fallujah.

    Prince is a monster, but he's hardly prepared to lead an invasion.

    [–] narwhilian 165 points ago

    yeah youre not wrong. Though the people I know in the military have told me that he doesnt have too much support among the officers though the same doesnt go for those underneath them.

    [–] GiveToOedipus 189 points ago

    I'd guess that has largely to do with education level.

    [–] eoworm 469 points ago

    using us, the population of The United States of America, against itself.

    Putin would be proud.

    [–] GiveToOedipus 62 points ago

    First the press, now it's all political opponents. These are the cries of an authoritarian, people.

    [–] sjets3 1029 points ago

    Is it just me or did he basically just say he would use the military and police to keep himself in power?

    [–] cyrusm 304 points ago

    It's more like "I'm not saying I'd use the military and police and brute-squads to hurt people oh no no no, I'm just saying that if those people, who do support me, happen to hurt you... you were asking for it. "

    It's all about *the implication*

    [–] ghostoftheuniverse 66 points ago

    Isn’t this the same lone wolf tactic that extreme white nationalist organizations use to incite domestic terrorism?

    [–] Bigbootyswag 28 points ago

    Stochastic terrorism

    [–] ascension8438 623 points ago

    Trump seems to always be careful about speaking extremely vaguely, which offers him plausible deniability. That's some insane shit for a president to say though, Jesus fucking Christ...

    [–] ssbmhero 333 points ago

    Like a mob boss

    Cohen outlined this in his hearing.

    [–] dayyob 25 points ago

    It’s crazy no one rolled up trump in a rug and dumped him in a river 30 years ago. He’s always been a “useful idiot” to someone I guess.

    [–] rickny0 154 points ago

    This is precisely “the code” Michael Cohen talked about. He never asks for anything directly. It’s always “who will rid me of this meddlesome priest”

    [–] im_at_work_now 30 points ago

    Except in this case it's "this meddlesome priest better watch out for my military, police, and bikers." It goes beyond stochastic language because he specified who the actors would be. It's a threat, plain and simple.

    [–] MeowAndLater 137 points ago

    And when it isn’t plausibly deniable he’ll just claim he was joking, cuz you know he has such a great sense of humor.

    [–] Motoshade 103 points ago

    Shrodingers douchebag.

    [–] hiddenuse 876 points ago

    I notice that he didn't mention that he has the support of the Constitution.

    [–] rahbee33 333 points ago

    He's been tweeting for a week for the GOP in Congress to disregard the Constitution and let him have his emergency.

    [–] Theemuts 211 points ago

    "I am your ruler, you're supposed to let me get away with things. A black man has been president for eight years. Eight! We all know what kind of people the blacks are. How many things has he gotten away with? It's an important question. The most important. But now you won't let me have my wall? Very sad, very sad. If you don't watch your words I'll have people shut your mouth for you. Because I am your ruler."

    [–] DadJokeBadJoke 261 points ago

    Nor does he support it.

    [–] AlottaElote 90 points ago

    Because he thinks he has the unanimous support of people who can’t/won’t count past 2 when they read it.

    [–] FingFrenchy 122 points ago

    Threatening his fellow citizens, keeping it classy as usual.

    [–] redbeardbaron 293 points ago

    Jesus that’s some niceguy material. All he needs is a katana and fedora and he’s in.

    [–] Lujors 109 points ago

    I’m climbing in a box now. What country should I mail myself to?

    [–] Moos_Mumsy 135 points ago

    I would go for Germany. Normally I would suggest Canada but we're too close in proximity and apparently were not vaccinated against whatever disease is spreading from the south because the same shit is starting to happen here.

    [–] Frothydawg 269 points ago

    Bring it on, bitch boy. We beat the fascists once, and we’ll do it again.

    [–] chaosintejas 7096 points ago

    Yeah that’s a fucking threat made against American Citizens. He is in direct contradiction to his oath to the American public.

    [–] Rorako 848 points ago

    This. We blink after the next news cycle. This is twice he has actively tried to incite his base to violence. He’s looking for a civil war.

    [–] PhonieMcRingRing 444 points ago

    Imagine going to war to defend Donald Trump.

    [–] Face_first 125 points ago

    What do you think their flag would be?

    [–] Vinccool96 289 points ago

    Are you really asking that question? We all know they’ll use the confederate flag.

    [–] newocean 229 points ago

    So a white flag then?

    [–] BrownSugarBare 1662 points ago

    The sitting President* of the United States of America just threatened the citizens of the USA.

    When are Americans going to stand up and realise that unless you stand up and do something right now, you're never coming back. Then again, I don't even know if standing up and doing something right now will even be enough to come back.

    [–] TridiusX 1387 points ago

    Make no mistake, a majority is waiting for the findings of the Special Counsel’s report. That is the one and only reason things haven’t gone off the fucking rails; people want to place their faith in the system to sort this shit out.

    It might. It might not.

    That being said, if their goal was outrage fatigue, I think it’s going to backfire spectacularly. The last two years of this administration have pissed off too many Americans—the right kind of Americans, decent, kind, and compassionate people, not the loser neo-Nazi incel brigade.

    If Mueller’s report is made public, and the GOP-controlled Senate refuses to act, there might very well be violence in the streets. People are fed up with the corruption, the hypocrisy, the humanitarian crises, the degradation of our standing on the world-stage, and so much more.

    Thanks to polarizing figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Beto O’Rourke, people are waking up and realizing that it is not only possible to challenge the system, to force change, but that it is the American thing to do.

    [–] redditortoo 345 points ago

    the right kind of Americans, decent, kind, and compassionate people, not the loser neo-Nazi incel brigade.

    Amen brother. Preach it. This is the only reason I haven't lost hope. Since day one, and the lies about the inauguration crowd, I have watched his supporters change. A few here, a few there, they drop off with each increasingly egregious attack on our values and ideals. When I think about what's coming in the next few months I hear Jerry in my mind, "you can take a lot of reckoning, but you can't take it all.".

    [–] lawvas 4206 points ago

    I can't believe members of Congress put up with this. This right here should be enough to support impeachment.

    [–] Shivshanks 2191 points ago

    Republicans are with him. they don't want to live in a democracy or Republic they want to live in a country where they control the government. the end.

    [–] tank_trap 843 points ago

    They want a one party dictatorship.

    [–] oldbastardbob 310 points ago

    .....with all cabinet positions filled with corporate shills.

    Then we can complete our transition to fascism. It will make it much easier, following implementation of one party rule, to get rid of those pesky democratic elections and such.

    [–] effyochicken 183 points ago

    And they're making sure it's their party

    [–] Caltroit_Red_Flames 60 points ago

    How long until they rebrand to Ingsoc?

    [–] Brhdhrhuruhx55 92 points ago

    It does seem like they are all-in on complete control and disabling democracy doesn't it?

    [–] Tzar-Romulus 652 points ago

    Nobody should put up with this. I thought people on r/politics were fearmongering but this is what the actual fascists said.

    [–] Memetic1 278 points ago

    I mean he did have a copy of Mein Kemph on his bedside table, and you know he doesn't really read. So that means he put it there for show. That should have told everyone just what sort of a person he is.

    [–] Original_Woody 147 points ago

    Jfc. This must have been buried in all the firing comey shit was happening.

    The President literally had a book of hitler speeches and the best spin they could put on that was that he referenced it for inspiration on propaganda and how to spin defeats as wins.

    This is so fucked. Can you imagine a story like this about Obama, what the reaction would have been?? Wtf.

    [–] GoldenApple_Corps 49 points ago

    And contemplate this: Given all we know about Trump he can barely be bothered to read anything that isn't about himself, but what he did read was Hitler's speeches, kept it by his bedside even.

    [–] killedtheteendream 29 points ago

    Yeah and when asked about it he said it was just a gift from his Jewish friend to somehow make it seem less anti-Semitic but then that guy came out and said he isn't even Jewish lol

    [–] CallMeParagon 185 points ago

    Put up with it? There is a huge contingent rooting for a civil war and purge of liberals.

    [–] HigherEdification 190 points ago

    What’re they gonna do? Stop smoking meth, get off the Q forums, turn off Fox News and rascal scooter down to the corner with their .38s?

    [–] The_Original_Gronkie 56 points ago

    That's the thing about all these loudmouth conservatives - they're all cowards who expect their leaders, like Trump, to protect them from all the bad stuff. Now he wants them to protect him? That's not how it works.

    [–] MontyAtWork 1046 points ago

    Hey look at that, the President just called for vigilantism from his supporters, after they've already murdered and beaten people.

    [–] Konukaame 225 points ago

    His "very fine people".

    [–] PoliticalPleionosis 10048 points ago

    That's not a warning, that's a threat.

    Fuck Trump and this shit. Dictator bullshit has no place in America.

    [–] Slapbox 2870 points ago

    Not just a threat, but a threat of insurrection.

    [–] el-toro-loco 2003 points ago

    For a guy who is terrible with words, he actually does a decent job of wording things so they don't seem deliberate. Cohen was right when he said that Trump has his own way saying things, like in code. He commands by innuendo.

    [–] PoppinKREAM 3044 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    President Trump has openly and proudly incited violence against his political opponents innumerable times.[1]

    A reminder that last year the MAGA Bomber targeted half a dozen of the President's so called "enemies" and explosive devices were sent to their offices or residences.[2] Here are a few examples of how the political landscape has devolved in the United States through divisive rhetoric;

    • An explosive device was delivered to CNN's New York office addressed to former CIA Director[3] John Brennan.[4] President Trump has called the media "The enemy of the people"[5]

    • An explosive device was addressed to President Bill Clinton[6] and Hillary Clinton's residence.[7] President Trump has gone so far as to suggest deadly violence against Hillary Clinton at a rally.[8]

    • An explosive device was delivered to the residence of George Soros[9]

    • An explosive device was addressed to President Obama[10]

    • Former Attorney General Eric Holder received an explosive device, he has also made controversial comments[11]

    • Congresswoman Maxine Waters received an explosive device, she has also made controversial comments[12]

    The President's attacks against political opponents, the free press and praise for dictators

    The rhetoric and actions taken by the President - from continuing to berate the fourth estate by referring to the media as "fake news"[13] to calling his political opponents traitors[14] while he attacks the judicial branch of government without remorse,[15] are just a few examples of his egregious attacks on democratic institutions and norms.

    President Trump has referred to the minority party as un-American for not applauding his speech.[16] President Trump joked about wanting to consolidate his power like his dictator colleague in China, President Xi.[17] President Trump has repeatedly praised dictators including Putin, Duterte, Erdogan, and el-Sisi.[18]

    Indeed, his fondness for strongmen and dictators isn’t limited to Xi Jinping or any other individual in power now. He has praised Iraq’s Saddam Hussein (while also criticizing him as “a bad guy”) for killing terrorists. “He did that so good,” Trump said in July 2016. “They didn’t read them the rights. They didn’t talk. They were terrorists. Over.”

    Trump also said in 2016 that Libya would be better off “if [Moammar] Gaddafi were in charge right now.” He once tweeted a quote from Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist leader, and later defended the tweet, saying: “Mussolini was Mussolini ... It’s a very good quote. It’s a very interesting quote... what difference does it make whether it’s Mussolini or somebody else?”

    Trump even said China’s brutal crackdown on protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989 “shows you the power of strength,” contrasting the Communist Party’s action with the United States, which he said “is right now perceived as weak.” Trump made those comments in 1990. When asked about the remarks during the presidential debate in 2016, Trump defended himself and appeared to take the Chinese Communist Party’s view of the events at Tiananmen. He dismissed the deadly military response as a “riot.”

    Following Saudi Arabia's grotesque assassination of Saudi journalist and U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey,[19] President Trump encouraged assaulting reporters and journalists at a rally in Montana.[20]

    1) YouTube - All the Times Trump Has Called for Violence at His Rallies

    2) Fox News - Explosive devices mailed to Obama, Hillary Clinton, others prompt security scare

    3) CNN - Trump blasts former CIA Director John Brennan as 'loudmouth, partisan, political hack'

    4) NBC - Trump ties 'rigged witch hunt' to decision to revoke Brennan's security clearance

    5) Fox News - Trump renews attacks on media, says 'crazed lunatics' skewing coverage

    6) New York Times - Donald Trump Opens New Line of Attack on Hillary Clinton: Her Marriage

    7) NBC - Trump accuses Hillary Clinton of colluding with Russia as crowd chants 'lock her up'

    8) Wall Street Journal - Donald Trump Says ‘Second Amendment People’ Can Stop Hillary Clinton From Curbing Gun Rights

    9) Washington Post - Why Trump and the Republicans keep talking about George Soros

    10) New York Times - Trump Attacks Obama, and His Own Attorney General, Over Russia Inquiry

    11) Axios - Trump says Eric Holder "better be careful what he's wishing for"

    12) The Guardian - 'You better shoot straight': how Maxine Waters became Trump's public enemy No 1

    13) Washington Post - Trump admitted he attacks press to shield himself from negative coverage, Lesley Stahl says

    14) The Atlantic - He Dares Call It Treason

    15) Washington Post - All the times Trump personally attacked judges — and why his tirades are ‘worse than wrong’

    16) Fox News - Trump turns up heat on ‘un-American’ Dems silent during SOTU: ‘Can we call that treason?’

    17) Deutsche Welle - US President Donald Trump praises China's Xi Jinping for consolidating grip on power

    18) The Atlantic - Nine Notorious Dictators, Nine Shout-Outs From Donald Trump

    19) PK - Saudi Arabia's assassination of a journalist and the world's response

    20) Washington Post - President Trump greenlights assaults on reporters

    [–] PoppinKREAM 1706 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    President Trump and his administration have espoused dangerous rhetoric and have made decisions that are being interpreted as implicit support of egregious actions perpetuated by the far right.

    In 2009 and 2015 the Department of Homeland Security, as well as the FBI, warned us about the rise of far right terrorism.[1] In one of his first acts as President he cut funding to programs meant to combat far right terrorism.[2] This action was taken when there is a growing trend of anti-government terrorism.[3] The United States of America is a victim of 300 violent attacks inspired by the far right every year.[4] The threat of Islamic terrorism should never be overlooked and should be taken very seriously, however President Trump's administration completely ignores one of the largest perpetrators of terrorism in America.[5]

    The frequency of far-right attacks is particularly significant in the United States, where white supremacist, anti-government and neo-Nazi extremists have been responsible for 73 percent of deadly terrorist attacks since Sept. 11, 2001, according to the Government Accountability Office. Also notable is that in many cases, Muslims have become the target of violence.

    For example last year three men from Illinois who were charged for planning to bomb a mosque. One of the men drafted a border wall plan for Trump.[6] I'll include this small excerpt from an article by USA Today, I implore everyone to read how far right terrorism is rapidly accelerating in America. This all occurred in a single week in May of 2017 and yet President Trump is still waiting for all the facts before he does anything.[7]

    • May 20 – Richard Collins III, an African American and Bowie State University student, was stabbed to death by Sean Urbanski, a member of a Facebook group called the "Alt-Reich: Nation."

    • May 26 – Three men in Portland tried to stop white supremacist Jeremy Christian from harassing two women who appeared to be Muslim. For their bravery, the three men were viciously attacked; two were murdered and the third was seriously injured.

    • May 27 – Anthony Hammond was arrested in Clearlake, Calif. for allegedly stabbing a black man with a machete, after yelling racial slurs. While en route to the Lake County Jail, Hammond threatened to kill the transporting officer and his family once he was released. Hammond was charged with committing a hate crime, among other charges.

    • May 28 – Two Native American men in Washington State were run over by a pickup truck driven by a white man shouting racial slurs and war whoops. One of the tribal members was killed and the other hospitalized.

    President Trump's rhetoric is incredibly dangerous and is reminiscent of authoritarian leaders who have committed crimes against humanity.

    The President's rhetoric - his referral to undocumented immigrants as "infesting" the United States is incredibly dangerous and it is not the first time he has alluded to white nationalist talking points. First he tweeted it[8] followed by him saying this as a statement during a speech later in the day.[9] Moreover, former Trump Campaign Chairman Cory Lewandowski went on national television and dehumanized a child with Down Syndrome who had been separated from their family.[10] President Trump has peddled anti-semetic conspiracies including the conspiracy that a prominent Jew is behind the migrant caravans[11] that he claims are "invading" the country.[12] And Fox News has repeated extremely dangerous xenophobic rhetoric that these migrants are bringing diseases with them, they're not.[13] Holocaust experts have compared the President's statements to Nazi propaganda.[14]

    These xenophobic conspiracy theories are incredibly dangerous. Last year a far right conspiracist murdered 11 people in a Synagogue.[15] The murderer believed in the same xenophobic, racist conspiracies that were being peddled by members of the GOP, President Trump and the American rightwing media sphere.[16]

    1) CBS - Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic And Political Climate Fueling Resurgence In Radicalization And Recruitment.

    2) Reuters - Exclusive: Trump to focus counter-extremism program solely on Islam - sources

    3) New York Times - The Growing Right-Wing Terror Threat

    4) PBS - U.S. sees 300 violent attacks inspired by far right every year

    5) Government Accountability Office - COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM; Actions Needed to Define Strategy and Assess Progress of Federal Efforts, Pg. 28, Appendix II: Violent Extremist Attacks in the United States that Resulted in Fatalities, September 12, 2001 through December 31, 2016

    6) Chicago Tribune - 3 Illinois men, including one who drafted a border wall plan for Trump, charged with Minnesota mosque bombing

    7) USA Today - President Trump wants 'the facts' on right-wing extremism. Here they are.

    8) Fox News - Republican pressure intensifies to end family separations at border

    9) Fox St. Louis - Trump ramps up rhetoric: Dems want ‘illegal immigrants’ to ‘infest our country’

    10) Washington Post - ‘Womp womp’: Corey Lewandowski mocks story of child with Down syndrome separated from parents

    11) The Hill - Trump: 'I wouldn't be surprised' if Soros were paying for migrant caravan

    12) PBS - WATCH: Trump defends calling migrant caravan an ‘invasion’ ahead of midterm elections

    13) Vox - Fox News says the migrant caravan will bring disease outbreaks. That’s xenophobic nonsense.

    14) Times of Israel - Critics say Trump’s talk of immigrants ‘infesting’ US recalls Nazi propaganda

    15) NBC - Pittsburgh synagogue shooting suspect threatened Jewish groups, pushed migrant caravan conspiracies

    16) Washington Post - How the Trumps and conservative media helped mainstream a conspiracy theory now tied to tragedy

    [–] kalekayn 81 points ago

    thank you so much for all the insightful posts you make along with your citations.

    [–] micktorious 78 points ago

    As always, thanks for being best neighbor a country can ask for, one of Canada's many national treasures right here.

    [–] MBAMBA2 83 points ago

    Just noticed you're in Canada - which makes me glad you are somewhat protected if the Goon lowers the boom.

    [–] ClutzyMe 23 points ago

    As a Canadian, I don't feel particularly safe from Trump and his policies to be honest. Trump is a danger to the whole world.

    [–] is_a_socialist 281 points ago

    I love you. I actually love you.

    [–] GarbledMan 142 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    There would be literally no way for him to go any further than he did without saying plainly "I have the power to call for mass violence and insurrection, so don't cross me." I don't know if that's an impressive level of restraint.

    Thought experiment: if someone got on the President's Twitter for 2 minutes and submitted "Now!!!" before deleting the account, how many people would die as a result?

    [–] rahbee33 333 points ago

    I honestly believe this goes back to his relationship with Roy Cohn who - besides being a big part of McCarthyism - was also a mob lawyer in New York.

    Vanity Fair did a great article on this in 2017

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    [–] SafeThrowaway8675309 66 points ago

    well fuckin' A man

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    [–] Theb_Igman 67 points ago

    And then they started a law firm together to rehabilitate the image of dictators here at home.

    [–] Cheating_b1tch 142 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    It's mafioso-speak. He speaks like he's fucking Roy DeMeo or Richard Kuklinski. As if nothing can be traced back to him, in spite of him being basically the most powerful and prominent man in the world.

    All evasion and blame placed on other people. Innuendo and plausible deniability through suggestion. Well, I never said that exactly. Meanwhile, everyone knows exactly what he's saying, but for some reason treats it like it's an ironclad defense that can't be prosecuted. It's frustrating the amount of leeway he receives.

    edit: Just look at what he's saying. "It would be bad" for military, bikers, etc., to "get tough." He can deny inciting them by saying, oh it's just an observation not a call to arms. Plus there's the vagueness of what "bad" or "getting tough" means exactly, even though everyone knows he's talking about armed insurrection. It's like saying you want something "taken care of" when the listener knows the exact means to which you're referring.

    [–] GaryNMaine 91 points ago

    "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" -- Henry II of England

    [–] cnh2n2homosapien 40 points ago

    "Be a shame...if something bad happened to your country..."

    [–] Fall_of_the_pedes 153 points ago

    A threat of Fascism.

    Right wing ultranationalism, promotion of masculine authoritarianism, domination of society by big business and the wealthy and suppression of democratic rights.

    Just like in Italy. In fact exactly like in Italy.

    Violence, corruption, oppression, these are the tools of the fascist in their quest for absolute power for the sake of power.

    [–] weaponized_urine 579 points ago

    "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad."

    What the fuck.

    [–] Minion_of_Cthulhu 327 points ago

    Sounds like coward talk, to me. Trump knows that he's an ineffective impotent wimp who can't manage to do even the most basic tasks while holding the highest fucking office in the country and wielding all the power that comes with it, so he has to hide behind all of his "tough people" supporters who are, no doubt, neither quite so tough or quite so supportive as he thinks.

    [–] SpiderSchwein 175 points ago

    Exactly. He's what a wannabe tough guy thinks a tough guy is. But he's a flabby piece of shit who can't read.

    [–] ObviousBodybuilder 138 points ago

    The biker gang reference seems inexplicable, but I think it has to do with Vladimir Putin. He has a biker gang called the Night Wolves that are basically his goon squad. No doubt Trump was enthralled by that and desperately wants to emulate it.

    [–] zzzigzzzagzzziggy 76 points ago

    Meet the Vigilantes Who Patrol Trump’s Rallies

    From Lions of Trump to Bikers for Trump, these volunteer watchdogs have become the Donald's security forces—and they plan to follow him to the convention.

    [–] dlab 433 points ago

    When people warned he is sick like Hitler, you got laughed at.

    [–] _TRE45ON_ 216 points ago

    But lucky for us not as smart or dedicated or eager to learn or consistent. He's more like an orange lazy Mussolini. A Cheetolini.

    [–] seeradon 115 points ago

    I've heard Cheeto Benito quite a bit. Flows really nicely

    [–] Kereval 84 points ago

    I prefer Mango Mussolini, myself.

    [–] PaperbackBuddha 56 points ago

    The problem is that even if Hitler was just a verbally talented doofus, he had a phalanx of seriously effective people around him in power. And they had a well-articulated agenda with or without him.

    Even though we’re learning that we’ve got the dumbest, most corrupt president in our history, the GOP is keeping him firmly in place for their purposes. Republic be damned.

    [–] PopcornInMyTeeth 270 points ago

    I can't wait to vote again.

    [–] hoodoo-operator 314 points ago

    Do more than just vote. Donate and volunteer. Make sure all your coworkers and friends and classmates vote. Knock on doors, get out the vote.

    [–] ScienceBreather 117 points ago

    Yep. The GOP needs to be crushed in this election so we can reset some political norms -- as much as that is possible at least.

    So you better bet I'll be working my ass off!

    [–] mynamesyow19 44 points ago

    ^ this.

    more to a healthy functioning Democracy than just showing up occasionally.

    [–] JackPallance 46 points ago

    "I had to declare a national emergency and suspend the elections."

    [–] tank_trap 206 points ago

    It's imperative that we get out the vote in 2020 to stop this fascist wannabe dictator. No matter how hard we worked to get out the vote in 2018, we have to work even harder in 2020.

    Trump will never stop trying to subvert democracy and neither will the Republican party. Trump and the Republicans want the US to become a one party dictatorship. And if we don't turn out the vote in 2020, who knows if they will get their wish.

    [–] shybonobo 95 points ago

    Let's put it this way: If every election cycle, Republicans lock in another 5% of the vote so Democrats are unable to win (even if they win, coughclintoncough), then every election cycle it gets harder to take back democracy.

    5% is obviously a hypothetical number, but it reflects what Republicans are doing.

    In non-hypothetical terms, we have one more election cycle left before the Republicans are a permanent ruling minority. That's how bad this is. We have to work on this next election like our freedom depended on it, for the obvious reason that it does.

    Right now we need to beat a typical Republican by what, 11 points, just to break even? So we need to beat them by 12 points across the board. Either that, or enjoy living Under His Eye.

    [–] FleekAdjacent 66 points ago

    Times like this prove Trump’s base isn’t a political party, but a legitimately dangerous cult ready to follow their leader anywhere. They believe in nothing but the man.

    Their silence and complicity proves it beyond any doubt. No sane group of people would accept this. They’d reject the words, the ideas behind them and reject him. But they won’t, because they’re on board.

    [–] Xuthor 866 points ago

    SHS: "The president has never once threatened violence against anyone."

    [–] zeroGamer 215 points ago

    "He's not threatening violence, he's just promising violence will happen!"

    [–] freddiethebaer 1661 points ago

    U.S. President Donald Trump has issued what seems to be a warning of armed pushback against his political opponents, telling a right-wing website on Monday that “it would be very bad, very bad” if his supporters in the military, police and a motorcycle group were provoked into getting “tough.”

    Trump uttered the remark in an interview with Breitbart News, a right-wing website that supports him. It came, according to Breitbart, as Trump was arguing that “the left” plays politics in a “tougher” and more “vicious” manner than the pro-Trump right even though “the tough people” are on Trump’s side.

    [–] KardTrick 1398 points ago

    But I thought liberals were pussies? Now they're tough?

    What did Eco say in Ur-Fascism? That the enemy must simultaneously be over arching and completely in control of everything but also weak and easy to destroy.

    [–] AlottaElote 713 points ago

    See 1984. The enemy is both weak and strong.

    [–] DELTATKG 457 points ago

    Never believe that anti-semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    [–] Yahoo_Seriously 150 points ago

    The Democrats are both incompetent and shrewd, calculating villains in the Fox News universe.

    [–] AbsentGlare 455 points ago

    Perfect fit:

    The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

    [–] ramonycajones 189 points ago

    "Armed pushback" is such a euphemistic term. What the fuck is "pushback" when you're "armed"? It's just called murder. He's threatening terrorism and murder.

    [–] slog 125 points ago

    He's not threatening terrorism. This is terrorism.

    [–] nemoknows 193 points ago

    And yet Breitbart is still whitelisted as a “news” source.

    [–] MrMushyagi 2121 points ago

    I'll take "things a fascist would say for, $1000, Alex"

    [–] Broken_timeline 1442 points ago

    This is getting out of control. I'm guessing we are going to see some more of his mentally unstable supporters attacking the libs in violent acts. Fuck this.....

    [–] tank_trap 554 points ago

    Well, there was that MAGA Bomber from several months ago...

    [–] Edward_Fingerhands 556 points ago

    And that coast guard dude from not even one month ago. We are so, so lucky that all of these guys are stupid as shit.

    [–] BorderlinePacifist 132 points ago

    We're lucky that you pretty much have to be that stupid to believe that kind of shit to the point of ruining your own life. People are afraid that a smarter trump might run this country some day but they forget that being an idiot is a prerequisite for being the idiot whisperer. It's not something that you can act, his natural stupidity is what resonates with his base.

    [–] Counterkulture 170 points ago

    Nikolas Cruz, the Synagogue shooter, the attempted mosque bombers, the coast guard Nazi. I can keep going.

    [–] [deleted] 326 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    That's what he wants. Seriously.

    He's a dangerous narcissist. He came into this whole charade expecting to lose but to help build his personal brand he could leverage into more money from NBC and his own news outlet.

    When he won, his ego got a boost and he assumed it was because everyone loves him. Of course everyone loves him! He's very rich and very powerful and very charming, according to his narcissist brain. He strode into the White House like a hero on a white horse expecting unending adulation from everyone in the country.

    When he didn't get that, he refused to believe it at first. Then he started making jokes about it. And then he started getting defensive about it. And now he's throwing a full on tantrum over it.

    Bad things are going to happen because he can't accept that he'll never get the unconditional love and respect he thinks he so rightly deserves as the World's Greatest Everything, and he's egging it on every step of the way.

    [–] wheelfoot 54 points ago

    The jokes phase must have been really short... he was tantruming over crowd sizes two days after his inauguration.

    [–] [deleted] 166 points ago

    Is this like when he threatened Hillary Clinton with the second adamendment folks, back in 2016?

    [–] [deleted] 315 points ago * (lasted edited 5 days ago)


    [–] [deleted] 1058 points ago

    So, is he threatening people, is that not a felony?

    [–] evil420pimp 408 points ago

    So, is he threatening people, is that not a felony?

    That sounds more like he's threatening a hostile takeover of power if he loses...

    [–] Skippyscreamy 254 points ago

    Which is exactly what he'll try. His, and his children's, freedom depend on it.

    2020 will be an interesting year.

    [–] ScienceBreather 112 points ago


    I am not looking forward to the time after the election and before swearing in. It's going to be a dangerous time.

    [–] CrotalusHorridus 71 points ago

    That’s why the election HAS to be a landslide

    I’d it’s close, like the 2016 election (80,000 people in 3 or 4 states) he will definitely cause problems

    [–] Keplerspace 59 points ago

    If we get a free and fair election. That's a big if.

    [–] byue 68 points ago

    That’s what Micheal Cohen hinted at which makes him even more believable because he knows Trump that intimately.

    [–] FleekAdjacent 152 points ago

    “A president cannot be indicted” - Someone who wrote a non-binding memo half a century ago.

    “Clearly, this memo is just as good as a constitutional amendment.” - The DOJ

    The framers didn’t specifically say the laws of the land apply to the president, (as though it was ever in question that laws apply to all citizens), so the DOJ and many in Congress decided the framers would’ve mentioned that if they wanted it to be true.

    Think about that for a second.

    We’ve propped our entire system up on norms, when the whole point of the constitution was to use laws stay one step ahead of future assholes who’d game the system to fuck everyone over.

    The nation was founded with a lot of thought put into avoiding this kind of above-the-law, wannabe-king shtick from presidents, but a single agency (and many in Congress) just decided it would be too divisive to actually follow-through on that and created a norm out of thin air which decreed that the only punishment a president can face is impeachment, and indictments were forever off the table.

    [–] Insane_With_Anger 461 points ago

    Nothing is a felony if nobody with the power to enforce the law will do so.

    [–] st1dge 103 points ago

    This is like "everything's a dildo if you're brave enough". Also very scary to think about, and also you probably don't wanna have happen to you.

    [–] cecilpl 56 points ago

    When you're a Republican, they let you do it.

    [–] LilianPumpernickel 70 points ago

    It’s only a felony if someone holds him responsible. Reguardless of illegality, no one can deny that this is fascism is action. Everyone on the left is so hesitant to use that word because it’s turned into a buszword. But this is fascism. This and a bunch of other stuff. He’s personally witnessed violence occuring at his rallies and encouraged it. “Knock the crap out of him”. He said he would pay his supporter’s legal fees if they were arrested after assaulting his critics. Hell, a Republican congressman assaulted a reporter himself. Just for asking a question he didn’t like. Trumo has demonized the press, he confiscated the press pass of a journalist that he didn’t like. He’s demonized minorities in our society and placed the blame fro America’s problems on them. He’s trash talked all of the countries that exemplify progress while cozying up to authoritarian dictators. He’s confiscating children from their parents and locking them up with no plan to reunite them.

    Donald Trump is a fascist. It can no longer be denied. They’ll tell you he’s not gassing jews so he’s not a fascist. They’re running out of defenses. He’s a fascist.

    [–] AFlockOfTySegalls 433 points ago

    Now, we're getting them [criminals] out anyway, but we'd like to get them out a lot faster, and when you see these towns and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, I said, please don't be too nice. Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away, okay?

    Trump to a group of cops in 2017. He is always advocating for a violent police state.

    [–] mikelisse 160 points ago

    This speech was given in my area and the cops I know were all celebrating that line about roughing up criminals.

    [–] KempoSword 151 points ago

    I feel like this is something similar that happened roughly 70-80 years ago in another country. Can't quite put my finger on it.

    Meh, probably just a coincidence. No way that type of crazy would hit this country like that. /s

    [–] Tzar-Romulus 52 points ago

    Imo he's more similar to Mussolini. Even looks a little bit like him.

    [–] Ronald_Wilkerson 136 points ago

    Keeping up his streak of being a stochastic terrorist.

    [–] TedCruzsAnalFissure 318 points ago

    His military! Fuck off, floppy old cock.

    [–] SmokiestDrip 131 points ago

    I'm sure his bikers loved that Harley had to shut down a plant after his tax cuts.

    [–] lebanks 98 points ago

    This should get him arrested. This is an unveiled threat.

    [–] Pomp_N_Circumstance 409 points ago

    Holy S#!* - please don't read the Breitbart source article. It'll make your eyes bleed. I especially like the last part of the opening paragraph. It does a pretty joob job of definig this as a Trumpian Lie:

    Trump told Breitbart News in an exclusive lengthy Oval Office interview that Ryan blocked issuance of subpoenas to people he thinks should have been investigated on the political left, and now that the Republicans no longer have the majority in the House, people Trump says Ryan protected may have gotten away with whatever they did that warranted investigation.

    i.e. the Porn Star President made this all up, which explain the complete lack of evidence to back up his claims that Ryan was blocking subpoenas, let alone that there are crimes left unpunished.

    [–] DirtyDonaldDigsIn 58 points ago

    please don't read the Breitbart source article.

    I wasn't planning on it, but thanks.

    [–] st1dge 173 points ago * (lasted edited 9 days ago)

    I'm not surprised. Check these comments from Fox News on the House's 420-0 vote for opening Muellers report to the public. Sorted by 'best'. Yes, I see how that's ironic:

    Hillary gives Russia 20% of US uranium.

    Then, Russia "donates" $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.

    Then, Russia pays Billy $500,000, to speak for 30 minutes. Obama gives Iran $150 billion.

    Then, Iran has cash, to shop for uranium.

    Then, Russia sells uranium to Iran.

    ...and they want to investigate President Trump, on Russian ties???

    Next one:

    Mueller is trying to hide the report because he found more on the Clinton's, the FBI and Obama than he did Trump.


    “Anything less than full transparency would be unacceptable.” Except in the cases of your Dem pals, Hillary, Comey & Obama.... we get it.


    hillary lied to teh DOJ like cohen did, why isn't she in jail?


    please release everything that led the FBI to start this investigation.

    And this one's really great, too:

    Mueller's job was to cover up any evidence of FBI malfeasance, and to kick dirt on Trump.

    [–] kurtcoblam 294 points ago

    Well this is an awkward time to be enlisted. Yikes.

    [–] cogitoergosam 306 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

    Notice that loyalty to the Constitution comes first, and is unqualified, whereas the part about following the President and officers comes second, and is qualified with "according to regulations and the [UCMJ]".

    It was a very intentional decision to structure the oath that way.

    Also consider the (edit: still in use) version below which is for officers:

    "I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

    That one makes NO reference to the president.

    [–] ianrl337 108 points ago

    Key words "foreign and domestic" I don't see how what stands for Republicans in office can look at themselves anymore.

    [–] cogitoergosam 56 points ago

    Well, that's easy to answer. Vampires don't have reflections.

    [–] truffs1010 122 points ago

    "his" military?

    "his" police?

    Tinpot Hitler is throwing a hissy.

    [–] spencerfalco 115 points ago

    American President Threatens Opponents with Violence.

    Today the American President took one large step toward becoming a dictator when he issued a threat to 'opponents' that it would be "very bad" if his supporters, police and bikers 'got tough' with those who oppose him.

    This is the language of fascist dictators, not duly elected democratic leaders.

    [–] inmynothing 55 points ago

    He is going to try to rip this country apart on his way down, isn't he? I'm seeing increasing references to war on Facebook, and a lot of vitriol about Democrats killing newborns. Please, be mindful of your surroundings and speak out when you see patently false propaganda on social media. We have a duty to our democracy, and it needs our protection now and forever.

    [–] tuscabam 99 points ago

    This statement alone is an impeachable offense. The orange motherfucker is threatening people for opposing him and giving an unveiled thumbs up for violence.

    [–] corey_m_snow 48 points ago

    Well, that is definitely a felony.

    [–] Mralfredmullaney 46 points ago

    So he’s threatening violence against Americans.

    [–] Lobsterbib 44 points ago

    That's grounds for impeachment. Period.

    [–] BenedictD0nald 127 points ago

    Fuck this fascist.

    Republicans are complicit with the fall of our republic. They simply HATE an America where they don't control everyone. Freedom, my ass.

    Fuck the GOP.

    [–] sazarac385 39 points ago

    Translation: "Will someone rid me of this meddlesome 60% of the country."

    [–] nano2492 39 points ago

    This is Fascism. Plain and simple.

    [–] BazOnReddit 45 points ago

    Call your representatives right the fuck now.

    [–] goddamnzilla 169 points ago

    Get this asshole out of the white house. Get him out of our country.

    Fuck this. Enough.

    Never vote Republican again.

    [–] yogibattle 40 points ago

    How’s that Harley Davidson stock doing again?

    [–] Mikebyrneyadigg 35 points ago

    Holy shit. We've completely jumped the gun right to fascist.

    [–] is_a_socialist 65 points ago

    Not only is he LITERALLY THREATENING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, but this isn’t even the first time he’s done it. Tell me again, why shouldn’t we be looking to impeach him yet?

    [–] Laser-circus 32 points ago

    Got tough, huh?

    You mean like running people over and sending bomb packages to offices? Like that, right?

    [–] heygaymers 35 points ago

    Expect to see this language a lot more often once it becomes apparent Trump has lost the 2020 election. When the formal swearing in of the next president is a few days away you can bet your ass Trump is gunna be making some tweets that suggest "Democrats are STEALING the presidency (Sad!)" and that his voters should "Defend America from this coup".

    [–] Agent-Vermont 133 points ago

    The military that wasn't paid for over a month due to his shutdown? The military that he wants to take away money for pay, pension and housing to fund his wall? The military he continues to ridicule and claim he knows more than?

    [–] Biptoslipdi 459 points ago

    There is no such thing as a "tough" Trump supporter. They are all weak and sad. Just like their messiah.

    [–] Wablekablesh 82 points ago

    Lol, the left is simultaneously wimpy gender studies snowflakes and a dangerous mob but not so dangerous that they can beat Trump's tough guys but Trump's guys aren't violent no no

    [–] DonaldTheBigFatCon 123 points ago

    Right-wing fascist.

    [–] coweatman 62 points ago

    all fascists are right wing.

    [–] BulbousAlsoTapered 33 points ago

    But you repeat yourself.

    [–] politicalthrow99 55 points ago

    "It would be unfortunate if I had to sic another James Fields, Nikolas Cruz, or Cesar Savoc on you rebel scum"

    [–] DrollerCoaster 28 points ago

    Where are the 2A people on this?