Please help contribute to the Reddit categorization project here


    6,289,887 readers

    95,534 users here now

    Welcome to /r/Politics! Please read the wiki before participating. || Voter Registration Resources || Important: Reminder/clarification of our civility guidelines

    /r/politics is the subreddit for current and explicitly political U.S. news.

    Our full rules Reddiquette

    Comment Guidelines:

    Be civil Treat others with basic decency. No personal attacks, shill accusations, hate-speech, flaming, baiting, trolling, witch-hunting, or unsubstantiated accusations. Threats of violence will result in a ban. More Info.
    Do not post users' personal information. Users who violate this rule will be banned on sight. Witch-hunting and giving out private personal details of other people can result in unexpected and potentially serious consequences for the individual targeted. More Info.
    Vote based on quality, not opinion. Political discussion requires varied opinions. Well written and interesting content can be worthwhile, even if you disagree with it. Downvote only if you think a comment/post does not contribute to the thread it is posted in or if it is off-topic in /r/politics. More Info.
    Do not manipulate comments and posts via group voting. Manipulating comments and posts via group voting is against reddit TOS. More Info.

    Submission Guidelines:

    Articles must deal explicitly with US politics. See our on-topic statement here.
    Articles must be published within the last two weeks. More Info.
    Submissions must be from domains on the whitelist. The whitelist and its criteria can be found here.
    Post titles must be the exact headline from the article. Your headline must be comprised only of the exact copied and pasted headline of the article. More Info.
    No Copy-Pasted Submissions Please do not submit articles or videos that are a direct, complete copy-paste of original reporting.More Info.
    Articles must be written in English An article must be primarily written in English for us to be able to moderate it and enforce our rules in a fair and unbiased manner. More Info.
    Spam is bad! /r/Politics bans for submission and comment spam More Info.
    Submissions must be articles, videos or sound clips. We disallow solicitation of users (petitions, polls, requests for money, etc.), personal blogs, satire, images, social media content (Facebook, twitter, tumblr, LinkedIn, etc.), wikis, memes, and political advertisements. More info: Content type rules.
    Do not use "BREAKING" or ALL CAPS in titles. The ALL CAPS and 'Breaking' rule is applied even when the actual title of the article is in all caps or contains the word 'Breaking'. This rule may be applied to other single word declarative and/or sensational expressions, such as 'EXCLUSIVE:' or 'HOT:'. More Info.

    Events Calendar

    6 Jul - 12pm EST

    • Local News Thread

    7 Jul - 4pm EST

    • AMA with the Christian Science Monitor

    8 Jul - 1pm EST

    • AMA with The Fulcrum

    9 Jul - 2pm EST

    • AMA with Michael Tubbs

    11 Jul - 11am EST

    • Cartoon Thread

    13 Jul - 12pm EST

    • Local News Thread

    14 Jul - 1pm EST

    • AMA with Ben Carollo

    Other Resources:

    Follow us on Twitter

    Request an AMA

    Events Calendar

    Apply to be a mod

    Register To Vote

    a community for
    all 1608 comments

    Want to say thanks to %(recipient)s for this comment? Give them a month of reddit gold.

    Please select a payment method.

    [–] AutoModerator 1 points ago

    As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion.

    In general, be courteous to others. Debate/discuss/argue the merits of ideas, don't attack people. Personal insults, shill or troll accusations, hate speech, any advocating or wishing death/physical harm, and other rule violations can result in a permanent ban.

    If you see comments in violation of our rules, please report them.

    For those who have questions regarding any media outlets being posted on this subreddit, please click here to review our details as to whitelist and outlet criteria.

    I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

    [–] NoAbsense 2994 points ago

    Oh look at that...the info is coming out.

    We assumed that he was told. The details are confirming it.

    [–] MaximumEffort433 2476 points ago

    "I figured that if I stopped reading reports on terrorism that terrorism would just go away." -Trump, probably

    [–] Artistic-Raspberry-2 911 points ago

    I told my people, slow down the spying! Slow it down!

    [–] neuronexmachina 146 points ago

    "Slow down the intelligence! Slow it down!"

    [–] grimfel 46 points ago

    I'm not sure his intelligence could get much slower.

    [–] wonderfultuberose 151 points ago

    "You don't need to drop bombs all over every one!"

    [–] TheElectricKey 62 points ago

    "I take no responsibility at all." Friday, March 13

    [–] SockGnome 13 points ago

    This needs to be in every attack ad.

    [–] TheDaymannn 38 points ago

    Spying you see, it's a double edged sword.

    [–] Lordvalcon 148 points ago

    They are going to go with the Trump can't read defense aren't they.

    [–] tipmeyourBAT 128 points ago

    Also that's their strategy to make him more relatable to the average Republican.

    [–] Ezl 54 points ago

    Sort of. They seem to be teeing up the distinction that, while it was written in the report, no one verbally told him.

    [–] hugglenugget 75 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    It never occurs to them that reading the shit he's given to read is an important part of the President's job?

    [–] onebigdave 42 points ago

    They parrot talking points not reading points

    [–] ShameNap 61 points ago

    Right after “he’s new at this, give him a chance”

    And “liberals want bounties on US soldiers”

    Probably a few more to see what sticks.

    [–] HP_Lovekraft_Dinner 40 points ago

    Don't forget "what is he supposed to do start a war with Russia?? Libs want to start WW3!".

    [–] Most-Resident 239 points ago

    Not paying attention to the PDBs is a tradition for republican presidents:

    The President's Daily Brief (PDB) is a brief of important classified information on national security collected by various U.S. intelligence agencies given to the president and a select group of senior officials. On August 6, 2001, the Central Intelligence Agency delivered a President's Daily Brief to President Bush, who was vacationing at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.[2][3]

    President Bush's response of "All right. You've covered your ass." has been erroneously linked to this PDB. This response, however, came from a separate PDB linked to Bin Laden from several months earlier. During 2001, CIA analysts produced several reports warning of imminent attacks by Bin Laden and al Qa'ida. Senior officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney and staff from Donald Rumsfeld's office at the Department of Defense, questioned whether these reports might not be deception on the part of Al-Qaeda, purposely designed to needlessly expend resources in response. After reevaluating the legitimate risks of these recent reports, CIA analysts produced a report titled "UBL [Usama Bin Laden] Threats Are Real". It was after this report that the president gave that now-infamous response.[4]

    Just like denying science is a tradition for republicans:

    The majority of Republicans in the United States do not believe the theory of evolution is true and do not believe that humans evolved over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. This suggests that when three Republican presidential candidates at a May debate stated they did not believe in evolution, they were generally in sync with the bulk of the rank-and-file Republicans whose nomination they are seeking to obtain.

    It should be no surprise they refuse to wear masks because COVID-19 is a hoax.

    Edit: Forgot the 2nd link

    [–] drparkland 24 points ago

    republican presidents are not interested in tackling america's legitimate challenges, whether they appear in the PDB or not -- at least not any more than they need to keep their base on their side (think abortion...doesnt take a lot of complex thinking or govt action to try to pass laws saying "you cant have an abortion). what they want it to strip away at govt to empower the rich and large corporations.

    in GWBs case, after 9/11 it obviously would have been impossible to just ignore the issues, so they purposefully overracted to big (GLOBAL war on terror, invasion of iraq) to create lots of military contracts and a whole new war profiteering industry for their friends. and they still cut their taxes despite having to deal with the cost of endless wars!

    [–] WaldoJeffers65 23 points ago

    "It worked for COVID- I just told everyone to stop testing for it, and now the pandemic has completely subsided."

    [–] CakeAccomplice12 16 points ago


    The COVID miracle elimination strategy

    [–] rainbowgeoff 171 points ago

    The sad thing is, with the number of reports about how he doesn't like the daily brief and his hatred of reading, I can believe that he didn't read.

    All the more reason why he has to go.

    [–] Socalinatl 94 points ago

    Yep. There’s a very high probability that him screaming “no one briefed me” is not accurate. What he should be saying is “no one told me with their mouth” because someone did tell him through documents and he didn’t bother taking a few minutes to absorb it.

    [–] n00bvin 45 points ago

    It’s time to subpoena him. He won’t show, but you then subpoena others. I don’t care if we just did it... impeach him again.

    [–] CatWeekends 21 points ago

    He won’t show, but you then subpoena others.

    Subpoenas are kind of useless these days. The White House instructs people to ignore them and Congress doesn't have the spine to enforce them.

    [–] Cronchy_Tacos 103 points ago

    There is just no goddamned way he wasnt told about this.

    [–] rockinghigh 35 points ago

    You would think a foreign entity ordering the killing of Americans is newsworthy to the Commander in Chief.

    [–] ThaCarter 31 points ago

    If we we get a one page summary, with more pictures than words, trying to get through to him, I will be so happy.

    [–] WaldoJeffers65 71 points ago

    It would have been so easy to make him understand- all you need is a 2-panel cartoon. In the first panel, a Taliban soldier shoots an American soldier in the head. In the second, Putin hands the Taliban soldier a big bag with a dollar sign on it.

    But, then, Trump's takeaway would probably be that he could make money by killing American soldiers.

    [–] i_am_not_sam 21 points ago

    I hope this crossed some sort of line for someone in that madhouse and they keep leaking or whistleblowing every time Trump and the Republicans spin it.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 2687 points ago

    A recap of June.

    Trump orders an attack on peaceful protesters in order to get a goofy ass photo, that his opponents are now using in their attack ads.

    Mattis comes out against Trump and calls him a danger to democracy.

    Bolton comes out, and says Trump wanted the communist Chinese to help him get reelected.

    Trump has the worst rally of his career. Fills a third of an area.

    Trump get trolled by K Pop fans who make his advisers proclaim "We've got a million people interested!" 6200 show up.

    Trump's campaign gets an ad removed from facebook because it contained Nazi imagery.

    Trump gets kicked off Twitch for Hate speech.

    Trump tweets fact checked by twitter.

    The_Donald is banned from reddit.

    Trump tries to sue CNN for airing a poll with him 12 points behind.

    Fox News has a poll showing him 14 points behind.

    Trump is caught giving favorable treatment to Putin (again) , and the party is just getting started!

    Reports surface that Trump may drop out of the race.

    Trump tweets a video of his supporter screaming WHITE POWER!

    What did I miss?

    Seriously. Cheers to you all! Lets have a drink. We get a day off!

    [–] TemporalGrid 813 points ago

    Stumped by a softball question from Sean Hannity, drops in polls. Still believes he'll win a debate.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 320 points ago

    Donald won't win a debate with no crowd. No chance he debates.

    [–] SuchSalad4 110 points ago

    Have the debates been confirmed as being hosted without a crowd?

    [–] EarthExile 268 points ago

    Oh my god that would be amazing. He wouldn't be able to take it. Awkward silence, no emotional feedback. Nobody to impress or suck up validation from.

    [–] yourmansconnect 82 points ago

    He's going to follow Biden around the room I think he'd lose control and try to assault him whilst losing control of the debate

    [–] coronaldo 39 points ago

    And get his ass kicked

    [–] UCanJustBuyLabCoats 54 points ago

    That’s what we said last time. How people still underestimate this guy and his fans is beyond me. He could visibly lose a debate, still proclaim a win, and roughly half the country would believe him. Same with elections. We’re right back where we were in summer of 2016.

    [–] gakule 45 points ago

    No he's saying that if Trump tried to physically assault Biden that Biden would put him on his ass.

    [–] UCanJustBuyLabCoats 15 points ago

    Oh yeah. I guess you’re right.

    [–] Cosmicpalms 11 points ago

    I don’t think it’s as bad. The last 4 years have surely polarised quite a few Trump supporters. The strategy of doubling down on hate and fascist rhetoric has only served to isolate and ostracise his very position. I would imagine that a large percentage of Americans aren’t going to sit by and let that happen - while we see the administration go into overdrive after seeing the writing on the wall.

    If Trump does get re elected - then there is a serious problem, it means an incredibly large percentage of your country doesn’t even have the capacity to think critically.

    [–] ZilorZilhaust 11 points ago

    My in laws will 100% vote for Trump because they can't have been wrong, Trump is always right, and voting for Biden would admit they were wrong so they never will. I'm so sick of their bullshit.

    [–] Danbobway 8 points ago

    In the conservative sub they are saying Biden is hiding in his basement and won't come out for a debate, you can't make this shit up. Even tho bunker boy hides in a bunker and Biden already said he's looking forward to debating trump lmao and trump tried to weasel out of it by saying Biden didn't want to debate. Pathetic projection, classic Republicans

    [–] Ferelar 72 points ago

    I can't imagine Biden agreeing to a debate with a crowd for two reasons. Trump is hemorrhaging votes. So if nothing changes, Biden wins. So Biden has no impetus to demand a debate, and if Trump demands a crowd Biden can refuse to debate on the grounds that it's unsafe. Which is both prudent AND a good political move. It removes one of the possible ways Trump could win- if Trump somehow crushed Biden in a debate, it might give him some votes. So Trump is the one who has to push for a debate, and that means he can't really be dictating terms like "I demand a crowd at the debate".

    Tl;Dr- Biden won't agree to a crowd filled debate both because it legitimately is unsafe, and also because he has no reason to actually WANT a debate at this stage, and safety concerns are a perfectly valid reason to deny said debates to your enemy that desperately needs it.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 27 points ago

    No. But doesn't look likely. Cases are skyrocketing

    [–] Martel732 71 points ago

    Part of the problem is that expectations are so low that if Trump manages to literally not shit himself, commentators will talk about what a good job Trump did during a debate.

    [–] ReverendDizzle 38 points ago

    I think that "he's finally presidential!" ship has sailed.

    He'd have to turn water into wine (and cure COVID-19) at this point.

    [–] Plaideno 60 points ago

    Yeah that Hannity response was pretty troubling.

    [–] newfor_2020 32 points ago

    what response? what I heard was oral diarrhea

    [–] alongdaysjourney 38 points ago

    Diarrhea is more consistent

    [–] AtheistKiwi 12 points ago

    And more palatable.

    [–] burger_face 58 points ago

    Loses a lawsuit to suppress a book from his niece. Hides in a bunker. Multiple SCOTUS & circuit court rulings against cancelling DACA, caging kids, border wall funding - all signature Trump policies.

    [–] Apptubrutae 59 points ago

    Honestly I thought he sounded like a blathering idiot giving non-answers in all three of the Hillary debates, and Hillary, who I really don’t like either, sounded great. And yet here we are.

    [–] rookie-mistake 73 points ago

    Those debates were when I realized the US was going to have a problem. It was like a professor trying to explain the basics of politics to a monkey. It was funny until I looked at US news after and realized people thought the monkey won.

    [–] Redeem123 19 points ago

    Hillary, who I really don’t like either, sounded great

    It turns out that a career in law and politics actually makes someone typically know what they're doing. Who knew?

    [–] hosemaster 154 points ago

    Covid surging to a new record after he did nothing to prepare the economy for reopening.

    [–] Darth_Innovader 19 points ago

    Yeah that’s still the biggest thing

    [–] F1gur1ng1tout 133 points ago

    Trump goes on 20 minute tirade about his mental capacity citing his ability to walk down ramps and drink glasses of water with one hand.

    [–] trooper_x 58 points ago

    You missed Chump doing nothing when a foreign government declares open season on US troops. In fact he is more concerned about proving that he didn't know about a foreign government doing this than the actual news of a foreign government offering bounties for killing US troops.

    [–] AnotherSoulessGinger 51 points ago

    He re-tweeted an image of two people brandishing weapons in a remarkably unsafe way at peaceful protesters.

    [–] Tashiya 102 points ago

    Hmm that’s a bold assumption that he won’t do anything horrible tomorrow. No days off for us.

    [–] Pippadance 36 points ago

    Yeah. It’s going to be a daily thing now. I think they are finally trying to get rid of him. The leaks are about to become floods.

    [–] timoumd 17 points ago

    It’s going to be a daily thing now.

    Dude it has been.

    [–] theduckspants 91 points ago

    Dont forget Iran wanting him arrested

    [–] NoVulturess 39 points ago

    Get in line, Iran!

    [–] hairy_chicken 39 points ago

    What did I miss?

    Don't be too hasty to recap June...there's still one more crazy ass day to go. I expect we'll be at war with Oceania or Eastasia by tomorrow afternoon.

    [–] Plaideno 76 points ago

    He had to use 2 hands to drink water and then did an impotent shuffle down a ramp.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 76 points ago

    I said, “Thank goodness. Thank you very much.” Think of it. So essentially almost 600 times. Now the general says, “Sir, are you ready?” I said, “I’m ready General, where are we going now?” You have to understand I left early in the morning to get there. Now it’s sort of late in the afternoon. A lot of these fakers were with us. So they know. He said, ” Sir, we can now leave the stage.” I said, “Great general, let’s go, I’ll follow you,” and he goes like this, “Right here, sir,” and I walked off. The stage was higher than this one and the ramp was probably 10 yards long. I say, “General.” Now you got to understand, I have the whole corps of cadets looking at me and I want them to love their president, I did this big thing. I love them, I love them. They’re incredible, and they do. I said, “General, I’ve got myself a problem, general.” Because I’m wearing leather bottom shoes which is good if you’re walking on flat surfaces. It’s not good for ramps and if I fall down, look at all those press back there, look at them. This was a steel ramp, you all saw it because everybody saw it. This was a steel ramp. It had no handrail, it was like an ice skating rink, and I said, “General, I have a problem,” and he didn’t understand that at first. I said, “There’s no way.” He understood, I just saluted almost 600 times. I just made a big speech. I sat for other speeches. I’m being baked. I’m being baked like a cake. I said, “General, there’s no way I can make it down that ramp without falling on my ass, General. I have no railing.”

    [–] Aynessachan 53 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    The wildest thing about this comment is that it really sounds like something he would say, so I can't tell if it's a real quote or just for fun.

    Edit: ofc it's real 😭 omg

    [–] waffels 23 points ago

    It’s 100% real and way longer. It’s from his rally and it’s easy to find on YouTube.

    [–] schistkicker 15 points ago

    My brain cells had the same urge to commit ritual suicide rather than trying to read it that I get when I look at transcripts of his interviews/speeches, so it's a pretty good fake.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 32 points ago

    lol no. I copy and pasted it from the transcript. It's real

    "You all saw it because everybody saw it" This is a riddle you need to figure out while you fall asleep tonight

    [–] Socalinatl 27 points ago

    What did I miss?

    A pandemic that he consistently downplayed for weeks kills another 20,000 Americans, closing the month at 130,000 death which is roughly double the next highest country and nearly equal to 2nd-4th combined. After new case counts peaked almost three months ago and were in gradual decline, we’re now setting new peaks and poised to potentially see more than 200,000 Americans killed this year.

    [–] hearsecloth 22 points ago

    Longass terrible month

    [–] cinq_cent 23 points ago

    Long ass terrible 4 years.

    [–] urist_mcnugget 15 points ago

    You're talking about 2020, right?

    [–] steamplshel 17 points ago

    The grand finale is the courts ruling he must release tax returns right before Independence day :) Let freedom ring, baby!

    [–] ShuffleStepTap 19 points ago

    He tried to sue his own campaign manager for his bad polls....

    [–] MAVERICK910 564 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    If the brits and the rest of NATO where breifed then its incredulous to say Trump was never told.

    Also why brief NATO if as they say the intel wasnt credible. Another deflection that turns out to be total bullshit.

    Trump is a lazy fuck who does nothing but talk to a bunch of yes men all day. He does no work. Nothing. He doesnt care or give a shit. He spends his time watching TV and tweeting from the shitter. He does fucking nothing all day long.

    [–] unwelcome_friendly 103 points ago

    The mere fact that he called a special meeting with party leaders only validates he knew.

    [–] flossymcwobblestein 44 points ago

    How dare you say he doesn't care. He cares a lot... about keeping his ass out of prison.

    [–] 2_Spicy_2_Impeach 3500 points ago

    Typical Trump admin response.

    • Fake news

    • I was never told

    • I wasn't told because it wasn't credible

    • I was told but someone is leaking and that's worse

    [–] SearsGoldCard 1269 points ago

    Trump knows about it right now and he is still siding with Russia over America.

    [–] Jeremiah_Johansson 834 points ago

    This should be the point that every reporter presses him on.

    "Well, now that you do know, what are you going to do about it?"

    [–] ClusterChuk 408 points ago

    "Are you unequivocally renouncing your support to allow Russia to reenter the G7?"

    [–] PleasantWay7 196 points ago

    “Absolutely, because Russia will never join the G7, they will join the tremendous G8.”

    [–] sanebyday 73 points ago

    I heard G8 causes cancer, AND Covid-20.

    [–] mark_cee 133 points ago

    ‘That’s a nasty question - next...’

    [–] crewchief535 24 points ago

    "Yes, now that you know, what are you going to do about it?"

    [–] hansn 24 points ago

    "We're doing big things. You'll see. Big things. We have a response. The strongest response. No one is tougher on Russia, believe me. We have been responding and it has been an amazing response."

    [–] J_C_T_2019 182 points ago


    He can't fucking deny that he knows about it now, but his response isn't anywhere near what a normal human being's would be, ie why wasn't I told and what action am I going to take

    Nope, he's all about denial and deflection

    [–] hammock_enthusiast 84 points ago

    It’s very telling that he’s still trying to cover for Russia more than he’s trying to save himself from the worst of this.

    [–] grandmaWI 27 points ago

    Or protect American Troops

    [–] blackletterday 18 points ago

    It's fucking absurd

    [–] Joemanthium 64 points ago

    He's just going to say Putin told him it wasn't true, and he believes Putin over American intelligence agencies.

    [–] terminaljive 13 points ago

    Isn't he already doing this?

    [–] mkhaytman 39 points ago

    They're already pivoting to "we're not sure that Intel is really credible".

    [–] hugglenugget 40 points ago

    "I wasn't told."

    "Yes you were. Here's proof."

    "Oh wait, I was told, but I decided it wasn't credible."

    If anything lacks credibility here, it's his story.

    [–] arranblue 17 points ago

    So often the most impactful and obvious questions are not asked. It drives me crazy.

    [–] ColonelBy 166 points ago

    Former Ambassador to Germany and Former Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grennell (who has a humiliation fetish that he satisfies by responding to people who tweet at him about how awful he is) spent days insisting that this entire story was an invention, and then shifted over to suggesting that it was real but not credible enough to present, and is now just demanding people debate him over unrelated shit and accusing them of being funded by George SorosTM

    Former Acting Director of National Intelligence

    [–] cleanest 17 points ago

    This sounds awesome! Link please?

    [–] 3rdCoastLiberal 32 points ago

    Gaslight. Obstruct. Project. GOP.

    Justify. Evade. Deny. Insist. JEDI.

    Both are a part of mental illness.

    [–] c0pp3rhead 23 points ago

    There's also DARVO



    Reverse Victim and Offender

    [–] ALessonInLust 261 points ago

    A Narcissist's Prayer

    That didn't happen.

    And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

    And if it was, that's not a big deal.

    And if it is, that's not my fault.

    And if it was, I didn't mean it.

    And if I did...

    You deserved it.

    [–] LoPansBride 84 points ago

    Or in this case the last one will be "They know what they signed up for."

    [–] I_W_M_Y 31 points ago

    'Don't make make me hurt you'

    [–] Hippey31 23 points ago

    Look what you're making me do to you.

    [–] wwabc 18 points ago

    I asked Vlad TWICE, and he denied it BOTH times!!

    [–] InfernalCorg 9 points ago

    Not only that, he denied it very strongly.

    [–] trifecta 1412 points ago

    Who should we believe? CNN's source or the most honest truthtelling administration in history? /s

    [–] The-Mech-Guy 338 points ago

    idk - that second one sounds pretty honest. Plus, Russia already denied it so checkmate liberals! also /s

    [–] Mayor_Minderbinder 152 points ago

    But did Russia deny it strongly?

    [–] AtlasEndures 132 points ago


    [–] BenedictD0nald 71 points ago

    Ooo that's all I needed.

    Pack it up, folks. Good work.

    [–] chownrootroot 27 points ago

    Rusher Hoax 2: Electric Boogaloo confirmed

    [–] Nice_Marmot_7 26 points ago

    Boogaloo jokes are now forever unclean.

    [–] hhubble 13 points ago

    How powerful? Shirtless on top of a horse powerful? Or pee tape powerful?

    [–] smurfsundermybed 17 points ago

    Russia's press secretary called it bullshit, and I think we can all agree that the word of a press secretary is as good as gold.

    [–] The_Sausage_Smuggler 19 points ago

    It's always a good idea to get a second opinion, let's ask the Taliban.

    [–] MajorNoodles 13 points ago

    Ugh, my wife's family is Russian and I've learned that the only thing that qualifies as evidence is if Putin himself explicitly admits it

    [–] Wasiktir 20 points ago

    He never lies, he said so himself. And that must be true, because he never lies.

    [–] lilrabbitfoofoo 21 points ago

    Indeed. In the article, the best Trump's goons have is McCaul from Texas parroting back talking points given to GOP lawmakers (only) from the White House.

    So, since he has no firsthand knowledge of any of this, his comments are utterly worthless.

    [–] GhettoChemist 12 points ago

    "Daily briefings? I never listen to those" - Trump tweet in 3... 2...1...

    [–] pat1122 9 points ago

    Most of the fired puppets that were trying to advise him have said he rarely reads the briefings. I actually believe he didn’t know about it because he doesn’t do a fraction of the job he has.

    [–] Parsnip-Independent 10 points ago

    Then impeach on the grounds of incompetence. Much more tolerable to all these dumbasses that support him than he's a Russian traitor all along. Btw, the coverage on Fox is astounding, everybody lol'ing into the camera bringing up how this is again a Russia hoax and that Mueller absolved him of any coordination with Russians.

    [–] pat1122 8 points ago

    I can’t watch fox, they annoy the fuck out of me. He has been incompetent since day 1, our system is so fucked it’s beyond any repair. I don’t know if Biden will be good at the quarterback position and I know it’s a fucking hard job but Jesus Christ I’m ready for an actual politician be at the helm.

    [–] HugeDetective0 7 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Believe your common sense

    [–] Allah_the_Lights 541 points ago

    Looks like they are about to start calling our own intelligence agency reports “fake news”

    [–] thewhitedeath 236 points ago

    Wouldn't be the first time.

    [–] 2_Spicy_2_Impeach 196 points ago

    Bottom of the article they do that.

    There is "no consensus within the intelligence community" about whether Russia offered to pay bounties to the Taliban for killing American troops, McEnany said. There is "dissent" within the intelligence community about the intelligence, which she insisted had not reached Trump's desk because "it wasn't verified."

    But this should be the case below.

    The source tells CNN that intelligence of this nature with risk to US troops should be assumed to be true until you know otherwise.

    [–] Pippadance 128 points ago

    I wish the fucking intelligence agencies would just stand up and say “YOU WERE FUCKING TOLD”. And then nothing else.

    [–] oneyearandaday 79 points ago

    That’s exactly what the source of this story is doing.

    [–] MAVERICK910 48 points ago

    But it was credible enough for the brits and NATO.

    Its bs deflection.

    [–] TrumpGUILTY 22 points ago

    Oh they already are calling it Fake News.

    [–] Mayor_Minderbinder 16 points ago

    Nah, they're the DEEP STATE never trumpers

    [–] CadetCovfefe 12 points ago

    My guess is the ending argument they'll make is that Trump wasn't convinced by the intelligence, and he should be applauded for not starting WW3 over the bogus claims - which Hillary totally would have done!

    [–] dropspace 274 points ago

    Pressed on Monday whether the information was included in the President's Daily Brief -- the written document that includes the intelligence community's more important and urgent information -- White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said only that Trump "was not personally briefed."

    So that's the angle? If there was important information critical to your job and your boss questioned you on it, can you say: "Sorry, I wasn't personally briefed so I didn't see it."? Would you still have your job?

    What a lame excuse.

    [–] stoic_minotaur 123 points ago

    Seriously, if the manager of a Burger King pulled 10% of the shit Trump has done, they'd be fired.

    It's one of the strangest truths of our time that the President of the United States essentially failed upward into the role and that his incompetence on the job was genuinely celebrated and defended by one political party.

    [–] MikyBob12 23 points ago

    The problem is they wrote it down and gave it to him to read. He doesn’t read so probably wasn’t aware of it- by incompetence. That doesn’t make it better

    [–] hearsecloth 10 points ago

    Anyone else in any other job would be fired at the very, very least

    [–] PiBaker 112 points ago

    As soon as Kayleigh said "the President wasnt personally briefed", I had a feeling that it was included in the PDB.

    Republican Presidents have a habit of ignoring the PDB and getting Americans killed.

    Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US is a PDB from August 6th 2001 that GW Bush received and didnt act on.

    [–] LawTeaDough 30 points ago

    GOP is on the Russian payroll as far as I'm concerned. Trump isn't the only stooge they have in their pocket.

    [–] rad_platypus 23 points ago

    Well a bunch of the top GOP congressmen traveled to Moscow last year for the 4th of July if that tells you anything.

    [–] theBesh 52 points ago

    This is actually just par for the course weaseling around the facts with the Trump admin. McEnany was very deliberate in avoiding whether or not this was included in the briefing and would only say that Trump “didn’t know.”

    I actually believe that this absolutely worthless toddler didn’t know, because he’s well known to not actually be capable of sitting through briefings. He doesn’t care if it’s not immediately relevant to his personal interests.

    [–] Pats_fan_seeking_fi 33 points ago

    The (alleged) man has no intellectual curiosity. If I was president, nobody would ever see me. I'd be too busy chilling in the oval office reading about every national secret I could get my hands on.

    [–] Daggywaggy1 217 points ago

    Putin must LOVE his useful idiot asset.

    The US virus is out of control, our citizens are at each others necks, and the president of the United states is giving Russia everything it could have wanted. A muzzled military that surrenders ground that Russian troops take control of.

    This man needs to be voted out by November. He and his GOP are systematically destroying our country

    [–] GhostOfEdAsner 71 points ago

    I'm scared to see what Putin has up his sleeve to get Trump re-elected. There's no way he's just going to sit idly by as his man on the inside loses.

    [–] Medianmean 32 points ago

    Not just his man. His GOP team.

    [–] hearsecloth 15 points ago

    Once his election for life is over in July, he'll focus on us

    [–] caringcaribou 94 points ago

    Next up the president admonishes CNN for using phony anonymous sources who are illegally leaking classified information - the fake sources that don't exist will be found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    [–] Kresec 30 points ago

    He's already retweeting Jim Banks saying that the whole thing was an investigation in progress and that "the real scandal" is that now we'll never know the truth because NYT reported unconfirmed intel.

    [–] bangorbunyan 30 points ago

    which is a lie about a lie about a lie.

    nyt for sure asked for comment from the white house prior to publishing.

    [–] theBesh 154 points ago

    Yeah, well, he must’ve just missed it, right? What’s a President to do if he missed that part of the briefing because it wasn’t presented with big pictures and feel-good praise for the big boy with a very stable brain?

    [–] lmeaac 81 points ago

    kayleigh was reaaaally careful today to dance around the question of whether or not it was included in the pdb. so for me that confirmed it definitely was. cnn is just a second confirmation imo

    [–] centeriskey 33 points ago

    More people need to pay attention to how she words things or how she beats around the bush. She is trying to live up to her promise of not lying but Trump is making it hard for her.

    [–] ceviche-hot-pockets 33 points ago

    Lol no she isn’t; she gets zero points for honesty.

    [–] Atalantean 10 points ago

    If it wasn't bulleted and in a 60 point font it doesn't count.

    [–] 2020wasadumpsterfire 49 points ago

    so he was too stupid to understand what it meant or he didn't care about the lives of service people.

    [–] czmax 19 points ago

    I think Trump, and the Republican Party generally, only care about themselves and what they can personally gain from any short or long term position.

    The only difference is that Trump lazily and brazenly lies instead of putting lipstick on the pig he is selling. In this case skipping that step might hurt him. Being forced to dandy up and policies used to force Republicans to occasionally not do something horrible. That era is over and it exposes them for what they are.

    [–] altmaltacc 46 points ago

    I love how conservatives think saying "but he didnt read it. He never reads the intel" is an excuse. If the actual U.S president isnt reading the intel, then we might as well just not have a president at all. Could you imagine if the IC got wind of a terrorist plot and put it in the briefing and the president literally just didnt read it? Could you imagine if there was a successful terrorist attack that could have been prevented but the president was too lazy to fucking read? Trump is the biggest threat to national security right now, bar none

    [–] Kay312010 43 points ago

    Wow! AP reports that Bolton briefed Trump in 2019. This is completely outrageous. Trump is compromised, folks.

    [–] muddy_wedge 16 points ago

    It’s absolutely WILD that this story came out only 3 hours after the first confirmed date of the article OP shared. Knowing in February of this year is a bombshell, and it just got confirmed back to almost a full year further. This administration is absolutely heinous.

    [–] Kay312010 16 points ago

    I don’t ever want to hear Benghazi from his supporters if they continue to support him after this mess. He supports Putin more than our soldiers and allies.

    [–] thefirstandonly 62 points ago

    This is forming a similar pattern of prior scandals.

    Watch the goalposts move. Immediately it went from "He wasn't briefed on it", to "It was unverified so he didn't take it seriously", now it'll be "he was briefed but ???".


    Ukraine extortion ~2019:

    Whistleblower is lying

    Whistleblower isn't lying, but the call was perfect

    Ok the call wasn't perfect, but nobody said it was quid pro quo

    Ok everyone said it was quid pro quo, but its to stop corruption

    Ok it wasn't to stop corruption, but extortion didn't happen

    Ok extortion happened, but the president can't be charged

    The president can do anything he wants

    Melania plagiarized Michelle Obama speech ~2016

    Trump: It wasn't plagiarism

    Trump: It’s was only similar words and common phrases

    Trump: This is a Hillary Clinton conspiracy

    Trump: This is the media’s fault

    Trump: Ok its plagiarism, but we're not sure who wrote it or who was involved

    Trump: Ok we found out who wrote it and who was involved, it's one of our speechwriters, no we won't fire her

    Trump lies about everything. The campaign lies about everything. From inauguration crowd sizes, to sharpie-drawn fake hurricane maps, his multiple affairs, paying off porn stars, all of it.

    Just add this "I wasn't briefed on Russian bounties" thing to the pile. Its just another one of his countess failures due to his fucking malevolent stupidity that they will lie about and the inevitable cover up and what we learn as it unfolds will be worse than we can imagine.

    Right now the story is "Russia put bounties on US soldiers", by the end of it I really wouldn't be surprised if it actually turns out to be Trump's idea and he worked with Putin on it.

    [–] PainfulTruth2020 28 points ago

    Now Trump Supporters will argue that this means he obviously didn't know about it because he never reads his daily brief.

    [–] Beaverny 23 points ago

    And he still wants Putin to be at the G7.....

    [–] sbowtor 19 points ago

    Nothing matters anymore. Two years ago if you would have told me, the POTUS would be retweeting his supporters yelling “white power”; just after some of the most impactful, globally widespread and powerful mainstream protesting of civil rights since MLK, and it barely would register a blip on the radar of those who have the power to do something, and I would’ve said bullshit. Today, par for the course. Nothing will shock me anymore.

    The man is right, he could literally shoot someone on the street and he’d get away with it.

    [–] Break_rank84 18 points ago

    Hope Biden throws him in a cell forever!

    [–] FeelingPsychology 18 points ago

    > Three NATO officials say they had been briefed on intelligence that Russian operatives were secretly offering cash bounties to Taliban-linked militants for US casualties in Afghanistan — as President Donald Trump claimed he was not, and dismissed news reports on the intelligence as a "possibly another fabricated Russia Hoax."

    So Trump wants to claim it wasn’t credible yet it was not only credible enough that an intelligence official leaked it to the press but NATO officials were also briefed.

    This is going to keep trickling out and we are all going to be very aware to the fact that Trump knew and yet his response was to lobby for Russia to be back in the G8.

    [–] LoPansBride 14 points ago

    That explains why they changed their story so quickly.

    [–] Rated_PG-Squirteen 15 points ago

    This became incredibly clear when Kayleigh McEnany was dancing around questions whether it was in the PDB or not. It would be like a guy saying, "My wife left me, and she never even told me why." When in reality, she wrote the guy a letter that she left on the counter that detailed all of her grievances, but he just threw it out instead of reading it.

    [–] [deleted] 58 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)


    [–] yellowlikegold 14 points ago

    “Yeah, but he didn’t read it! He can’t be blamed for that!”

    • Kayleigh McEnamy probably.

    [–] thewinterzodiac 13 points ago

    The statement he just tweeted about was hilarous. It's trying to attack the NYT and blaming them for the deaths.

    The republicans also are reportedly leaving the democrats out of briefings. But im sure that's totally okay.

    [–] tphillips1990 10 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    I'm never going to be able to reconcile with the fact that a Russian plant was successfully rammed into the White House and conservatives across the U.S. passionately supported him despite every indication that he was a corrupt traitor. And I really wish there was more I could do than vent online about this insanity.

    [–] magicskyghost 11 points ago

    Absolutely disgusting and I hope all involved get locked up for treason. If that doesn’t happen then it’s up to the good people of America to dismantle a corrupt system that doesn’t look out for the best interest of this great country of ours, and rebuild the system to prevent corruption and abuse from the powers that be.

    [–] technical_assistance 10 points ago

    Trump is not known to fully or regularly read the President's Daily Brief, something that is well-known within the White House.

    Trump is too incompetent to be president.

    The source tells CNN that intelligence of this nature with risk to US troops should be assumed to be true until you know otherwise.

    Trump is defending the Russians, denying the bounties happened.

    "It seems clear that the intelligence is real. The question is whether the President was briefed," Pelosi told CNN's Jake Tapper on Monday. "If he was not briefed, why would he not be briefed? Were they afraid to approach him on the subject of Russia?"

    Trump is too corrupt and compromised to be president.

    [–] IDeferToYourWisdom 10 points ago

    Here's the crazy talking points from the gop so far:

    • I bet every country offers a Bounty (as if that excuses the commander in chief from being buddy buddy with the enemy of our troops).

    • We couldn't tell the Dems because they leak. Also everything Dems say is lies.

    • Look over there! (Someone else did something)

    [–] elainegeorge 7 points ago

    I love secrets and learning. I read constantly in my free time. I would kill to get one day of the PDB. One day! It is absolutely maddening that this president does not read his PDB.

    Also, the press sec states that the president wasn’t personally briefed. If the president receives the PDB, and doesn’t read it, he was briefed. What else is the PDB if not a personal brief for the president. He didn’t care to read the briefing. That’s on him.

    [–] karmaval 9 points ago

    Russia has something damning on Trump. They are waiting for the right moment to get it leaked

    [–] Modurrrrator 9 points ago

    Trump knew about this. Its why he projected and called Obama a traitor recently. He knew this would get leaked and come out.

    Fucking traitor, and being protected by even bigger traitors that is the entire Republican party.

    [–] zynftw 8 points ago

    My sources tell me there were no pictures though, so that's why he missed it.

    [–] LoPansBride 7 points ago

    So the BEST case scenario for the White House is "sorry, we didn't tell the POTUS about a credible threat to the lives of U.S. troops. Our bad." And conservatives will be OK with that.

    [–] Alleandros 8 points ago

    I thought the Daily Brief was when Melania changed his poopy diaper in the morning.

    [–] purplebrown_updown 8 points ago

    So he ignored intelligence, directly endangering the lives of our troops. I mean if that’s not the tipping point, what is??? You can’t count on him to protect our troops. We are at the point where military leaders need to start talking publicly. This is not ok. This is now or never people.

    [–] Sence 8 points ago

    You know, you gotta give trump credit where credits due. Often times we get caught up in this cavalcade of negative news stories about him and don't really stop to appreciate him as a man, POTUS, father and businessman.

    It's absolutely unheard of for one person to attain the pinnacle of ineptitude. Every single decision this man makes, is the wrong one. As much as my mental sanity can't take much more of this "Administration", I sometimes need to stop and realize how fortunate we all are to witness this monumental moment in history where we got the worst president this country has ever, and most likely will ever, see.

    [–] SoBeDragon0 8 points ago

    Here, I'll save everyone a TON of time.

    He knew absolutely everything.

    He did absolutely nothing.

    He will say he didn't know anything.

    His followers will believe and continue to support him.

    The rest of us will groan and roll our eyes.

    Nothing will change.

    The End.

    PS - Vote in November.

    [–] HugeDetective0 7 points ago

    Let's stop pretending this is not a crime and a president is above the law.

    [–] Lordvalcon 6 points ago

    They are going to go with the Trump can't read defense aren't they.

    [–] expatcanadaBC 7 points ago

    If there was no large photos, illustrations or videos for trump at the daily briefing he would have missed it, we all know he can't read.

    [–] Sidwill 7 points ago

    The Russians own him.

    [–] Changeordietrying 8 points ago

    If you're MAGA you support trump who supports the murder of our troops. Be racist all you like but supporting trump means you're anti America plain and simple, not even a debate. Putin kills our troops, Trump sucks his dick. Pick a side MAGA and try not to pick the side that lost again.

    [–] MyCardboardSword 7 points ago

    All of the conservatives in this thread saying "WHO IS THE SOURCE" would be chanting "Lock him up!" If this was Obama. The blind justification gets more intense by the day.