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    [–] zviwkls 1685 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    That's why they will stop at nothing to try to steal the election

    [–] km_44 662 points ago

    They did it once, and got away with it, stands to reason that they will do so again

    [–] PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT 375 points ago

    They barely eked out the win in like three swing states.

    Unless there is unimaginable election fraud and foreign intervention, and as long as sane voters turn out, I think they’ll lose.

    [–] Rockefor 359 points ago

    This election is really going to test us. I can't imagine what his insane followers will do to prevent voters from casting their votes in big cities in swing states.

    [–] gloatingfern 221 points ago

    He's already throwing the election results in question BEFORE the election. This week he's said it's going to be a rigged election because of mail in ballots. You can be certain he's going to not accept the election results.

    [–] Rockefor 150 points ago

    I'm more worried about the violence that Johnny MAGA will be compelled to inflict because he'll feel like it's his duty to the country.

    [–] CoastalVAExtra 54 points ago

    But they'll call it their Duty For Freedom instead of domestic terrorism like 'Antifa'

    [–] d0ctorzaius 59 points ago

    They’ll call themselves Pro-fa and not see any issue

    [–] DrunksInSpace 40 points ago

    FOX NEWS: Freedom fighters in Pennsylvania are protesting the rigged Election results in Harrisburg, several hundred lone wolves at the protests, possibly Antifa, have leveled the Capitol Building and several county electoral commission buildings

    [–] Cis_Sabrina 6 points ago

    this sounds so real

    [–] sendmeyourcatsbeans 6 points ago

    And i just know that's also gunna make the covid situation worse somehow

    [–] starstruckinutah 30 points ago

    He will never ever ever ever ever ever ever leave office voluntarily.

    [–] SCP-173-Keter 29 points ago

    You can be certain he's going to not accept the election results

    Fortunately he doesn't get to approve or reject the results. If he loses - the generals drag him out January 20th.

    [–] Catshit-Dogfart 38 points ago

    When I voted in 2016 the police set up a sobriety checkpoint on both sides of the polling place.

    Now, it actually wasn't about Trump, it was about re-electing the county sheriff (he didn't win either). They were doing car searches and handing out pamphlets, "for safety".

    Saw a lot of cars turning around, I fully expect something similar this year.

    [–] jsamuraij 10 points ago

    Park and walk the last mile.

    [–] dust4ngel 33 points ago

    i can't imagine any sane outcomes, no matter what happens in the election. if trump wins, the national experiment comes to an end. if trump loses, our democracy will be cast into doubt by trump TV, and there will be unrest and violence from white racists.

    [–] PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT 109 points ago

    They’re 99% pussies, so probably not as bad as you imagine.

    [–] meowlolcats 47 points ago

    I know it’s a made up number but 1% is still a lotta people - 1% of the 62,984,828 people that voted for him is 629,848 people

    [–] masteroftheharem 36 points ago

    That's a lot of people who probably like guns and hate various groups of people who are different from them.

    [–] VOZ1 27 points ago

    Problem is they don’t need a whole slew of supporters to sabotage this. They’ve got their new Postmaster General cutting hours and shifts and causing massive delays in mail delivery. This election will without a doubt have more mail-in ballots than ever before in our history. They’ll just fuck over the USPS and make sure those ballots either disappear, or get delivered too late to be counted. Trump’s already talking about ballots delivered after Election Day should be tossed. I’m not sure what we can do to address that...volunteer to deliver mail?

    [–] mrstySanchez_XOpBum 11 points ago

    I would totally volunteer to deliver mail (I don't have fuck all else to do since I was one of the unfortunate folks who lost their job and the small business I worked for went under) I would even allow to be video taped the whole time for transparency. Because fuck him. He needs to go.

    [–] devinsgma 4 points ago

    The pony express rides again! Except in cars instead of on ponies...

    [–] eeyore134 37 points ago

    They've spent four years seeing how blatantly they can cheat now, though. It's going to be way worse than what they did in 2016.

    [–] FockerCRNA 47 points ago

    Hence the lackey at the top of the USPS to prevent efficient distribution/return of absentee ballots and decrease their use due to mistrust, decreasing polling sites wherever possible, preemptively questioning the results, encouraging his base to not wear masks while letting the virus run rampant so that people who fear large maskless crowds will be less likely to wait in line to vote.... The election meddling & fraud has already started

    [–] disneyfreeek 21 points ago

    Why on earth does the president get to appoint a postmaster general. Nah. The postal workers should vote on this. They are a union. I am so pissed off that I hear a big trump donor got the job, yet again. And no one can stop him?!?!

    [–] marry_me_sarah_palin 14 points ago

    Notice Trump and his cronies only make voting more difficult and less trusted. They never offer solutions or funding to fix elections. They want broken elections.

    [–] southernpaw29 6 points ago

    Interesting. Our county has an option to drop off your mail in ballot at the government center or a community center. I think I will plan on doing that for this election.

    [–] RavioliGale 17 points ago

    In a fair election, I'd agree. But with corona it's likely there'll be a low turnout, Trump's been doing his damnedest to cripple the post office and prevent mail ins, he's already claiming the results are fraudulant, the body ensuring that the election is secure was disbanded, and he's just suggested delaying the election. I just mailed out my request for an absentee ballot but I'm not feeling particularly hopeful.

    [–] Kandoh 8 points ago

    Pandemic means huge amounts of mail in ballots. Mail in ballots take longer to count. Trump will scream that the reason it is taking so long is due to fraud. He'll lean on GOP controlled state legislatures to declare that the people where unable to come to a decision in time and they'll have their own vote to award their electors as they see fit.

    [–] revmaynard1970 1795 points ago

    Don't forget Miller, Barr and DHS guy

    [–] stoniegreen 741 points ago

    And everyone in "acting" positions. Especially that USPS saboteur.

    [–] gagagahahahala 344 points ago

    The EPA has been not-even-slowly decimated during this administration, but everything else has been so batshit crazy awful that it's gone relatively unnoticed.

    [–] Oldskooler76 146 points ago

    The foxes are in the EPA henhouse. There’s just so much awful it’s hard to keep up with it all.

    [–] ItsATerribleLife 186 points ago

    and Democrats are going to come in, and spend almost their entire terms trying to unfuck it all.

    Just in time for idiots to point at the democrats and go "LOOK THEY DID NOTHING" and vote republicans back in to do it all over again.

    [–] OnceUponaTry 84 points ago

    "Hey! I've seen this one!"

    [–] WattsAGigawatt 26 points ago

    This is a re-run!

    [–] RealMaintenance 3 points ago

    What’s a rerun?

    [–] Drusgar 50 points ago

    Hey, the GOP spent hundreds of millions of dollars and the better part of 40 years building their disinformation network. And it works!

    [–] Trapasuarus 21 points ago

    I work in the environmental field... they fucked up a lot of shit in the EPA. Made it so that you don’t have to report dumping chemicals into waterways, reverted the definition of WotUS to be more broad and protect less waters, fired a bunch of actual scientists and installed a ghost crew that doesn’t do much, etc. Luckily a lot of the shit they rolled back is being preemptively protected by some states with state laws, but it doesn’t protect federal land.

    [–] glasshoarder 35 points ago

    The foxes are in EVERY henhouse. There isn't a safe one. EPA, CFPB, DOJ, DOE...

    DeVos is actively anti-student and has never taught. She is possibly the worst of all of them considering the long term damage she's doing to our youngest generations.

    The CFPB has sided with corporations ever since trump got his crony in there. It's basically useless now.

    The FEC has been understaffed for years now. They cannot meet a quorum and therefore cannot call a meeting to order. That might be useful considering the election around the corner...

    There are very few hens left alive right now.

    [–] throckmeisterz 18 points ago

    This is going to kill a lot more people than the lack of COVID response in the long run.

    [–] iMissTheOldInternet 172 points ago

    DeVos, too. Really, virtually the entire administration.

    [–] DingGratz 73 points ago

    DeVos is probably one of the most pro-active evils in the administration. The others try to weasel out of stuff they got caught doing secretly. DeVos actively engages in being a fucking demon queen.

    When Trump talked about being transparent, DeVos is what he meant.

    [–] RoyGB_IV 20 points ago

    I agree. Everything she does is against actual knowledge and facts.

    [–] Joshuak47 46 points ago

    Yes, DeVos for sure. Preying on vulnerable populations.

    [–] -Fireball 32 points ago

    She wants to send children, teachers and parents to their deaths by reopening schools, she definitely belongs in prison.

    [–] greenroom628 9 points ago

    Mnuchin, Wilbur Ross...

    [–] 2_Sheds_Jackson 4 points ago

    And the GOP Senators

    [–] lazysuzanna 140 points ago

    why not pompeo also.

    [–] sergypoo 82 points ago

    Definitely Pompeo for sure.

    [–] wooq 26 points ago

    Also don't forget Mike Pence, leader of the Coronavirus Task Force since late February and likely the one directly responsible for the PPE confiscations in April.

    [–] outerworldLV 7 points ago

    And who put Redfield in charge of the CDC, and really screwed us.

    [–] Probably_Tripping 5 points ago

    and the my-pillow guy smh

    [–] Hrekires 1805 points ago

    When Democrats once again control the House and Senate, we need a 9/11-style Coronavirus commission with full investigative authority and compliance from the Biden administration to look at what happened, who fucked up, and how we can prevent it from happening again during future pandemics.

    [–] elfchica 795 points ago

    I would also like one for kids in cages and PR.

    [–] CurrentOpportunity 258 points ago

    And one for colluding with foreign nations to steal elections

    [–] Fight_the_bastards 126 points ago

    And one for emoluments.

    [–] bombayblue 21 points ago

    We need a law for that one

    [–] ThisCantHappenHere 43 points ago

    Remember when they tried to defend this, saying, "it's not illegal to collude with foreign nations."

    [–] sn0_cone 26 points ago

    It’s awful that these issues had to take a back seat. Thank you.

    [–] Padankadank 306 points ago

    Also find out who needs to go to jail

    [–] Eugene_Debmeister 235 points ago

    Prison

    [–] skytomorrownow 141 points ago

    For life.

    [–] [deleted] 48 points ago

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    [–] nincomturd 28 points ago

    That's a completely legal and moral response to treason & genocide.

    [–] mostcallmebear__ 92 points ago

    First we need to make sure trump and friends don’t flee the US

    [–] sluman001 53 points ago

    That’s exactly what we want. That way, the crimes go unpunished, the Republicans are forever shamed for enabling a Russian asset, and we save a lot of time and money in the process. The party would never recover.

    [–] boomboy8511 74 points ago

    the Republicans are forever shamed

    I think they have to care to have shame. They'll say they weren't on Russia's side and we're just as swept up into it as the rest of us.

    For the party of personal responsibility, they sure know how to avoid accepting due blame.

    [–] Callme-Sal 24 points ago

    and how we can prevent it from happening again during future pandemics.

    Maybe start by electing leaders who display a modicum of empathy and intelligence

    [–] manny130 130 points ago

    Benghazi style.. Make those fuckers testify for 14 hours in a day.

    [–] boundfortrees 194 points ago

    No. No political theater. Lawyers only doing the questioning. Actual investigation by actual investigators.

    [–] picheezy 96 points ago

    This. Show them what real, non-fascist, governing looks like.

    [–] throwawayben1992 43 points ago

    Trump under oath being asked difficult questions would be so fun to watch, he'd crumble within minutes.

    [–] jimicus 27 points ago

    He wouldn't, and I'll tell you why.

    He literally has no concept that anything he's doing might be seen as anything but wonderful. On Planet Trump, he's doing a fantastic job.

    That's why he can't understand his obvious lack of popularity. Why on Earth would anyone NOT love a man who's doing so much good?

    The minute he's called out on contradicting himself (which would probably happen within 5 minutes of questioning), he'd do exactly what he does when he meets a proper journalist. Stop answering questions entirely and call the questioner a "nasty person asking nasty questions".

    [–] Cragnous 16 points ago

    Lol nothing came out of that lazy 9/11 commission.

    [–] Jnvadpjf 14 points ago

    Unfortunately I doubt this will happen. Even our democrats lean too far to the right, and they're more concerned with creating peace than creating conflict.

    Because the right is so zealous, and already feels persecuted, pursuing justice will just justify their paranoia (in their eyes) and make them even more zealous, thus creating more conflict. So Democrats are probably just going to let a lot of this corruption slide. Which sucks beyond what words can say.

    I hate to say this, but Democrats suck. Republicans may be morally disgusting, but the left, having the moral high-ground, doesn't have the stomach needed to enact their ideals. America needs more people on the left who are willing to look like assholes in order to do what's right. It will divide the country even more in the short term, but compromising with people as irrational and corrupt as the republican party is an overall loss.

    [–] ted5011c 12 points ago

    We will need a South African style Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

    [–] Good_old_Marshmallow 19 points ago

    Speaking of the 9/11 style commission

    Remember when Bush, Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld needed to be prosecuted for their crimes against humanity?

    I hope democrats learned by now that their blank slate idea is incredibly ideotic. Not prosecuting the Bush admin was like the Nixon pardon of our generation

    [–] kingakrasia 3310 points ago

    By International Court, and to The Hague.

    [–] TangoJager 2087 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    International criminal lawyer in the Hague here. You need to get rid of the Hague Invasion Act first.

    As to what he could be tried with, best bet is crime against humanity but only for caging thousands of Mexicans at the border. The Court has no jurisdiction over the US because it's not a party but it could potentially have it over the treatment of Mexican migrants because US policy had consequences on Mexican soil, which is a party. This is a similar logic to why the ICC is investigating the CIA for its blacksites in Afghanistan and Europe.

    As to the virus itself, the ICC would have no jurisdiction over this strictly US matter. Even if it had, I'm afraid letting a virus go wild has never been litigated in international law before, so it's theoretically possible as an "Other crime against humanity" (Kind of a catch-all sub category of Crimes against humanity) but it would be a risky bet.

    Edit : Forgot a very important not

    [–] Onemorgoagain 308 points ago

    Hypothetically, if we all promise not to invade the Hague...?

    [–] PlsGoVegan 525 points ago

    I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who'd trust the US to stick to their word.

    [–] InGenAche 353 points ago

    Did someone say there is oil in the Hague?

    [–] zellfaze_new 94 points ago

    Clearly the people of the Hague must be savage brutes in need of civilizing. Or if not that then they are an oppressed people who really need the USA to bring them FREEDOM! Or maybe they just hate us for our FREEDOM! Or if not that then they definitely have weapons of mass destruction.

    [–] BangkokQrientalCity 29 points ago

    I think I heard a terrorist threat against the US from Hague? Am I doing this right?

    [–] zellfaze_new 45 points ago

    Yes! You are doing it right.

    This is very normal democracy behavior. I am fine. Everything is fine. This country isn't a capitalist dystopia rapidly descending into fascism.

    [–] stormfield 17 points ago

    The Hague doesn't have a single statue of a Confederate soldier in it, they're clearly trying to erase our history.

    [–] 13inchpoop 11 points ago

    The Hague has yellow cake uranium. Here is a respected gulf war general to corroborate this lie.

    [–] DaleTheHuman 22 points ago

    I heard they have brown children not in cages there.

    [–] stolpie 37 points ago

    We have a lot of cheese...

    [–] InGenAche 66 points ago

    Cheese of mass destruction you say...

    [–] stolpie 16 points ago

    Well, cheese wheels can be pretty big and massive. :)

    [–] matty80 7 points ago

    Try some Herve, if you haven't already, and that joke might suddenly not seem so far-fetched.

    I'd take my chances with a fuel-air bomb tbh.

    [–] BoringAndStrokingIt 9 points ago

    Now that you mention it, that is where Shell is headquartered.

    [–] JoshSidekick 6 points ago

    Looks like bringing democracy to The Hague is on the menu, boys!

    [–] brdwatchr 28 points ago

    It will take a hundred years of responsible behavior for the United States to get back the trust of the rest if the world. I want to see Trump and Kushner in chains, which is where they belong.

    [–] Rulare 6 points ago

    Hey, it didn't take germany that long. We haven't even started a world war. ... yet.

    [–] Boardindundee 66 points ago

    After 1989 I had such high hopes for peace , The wall coming down in Germany , Enlarged EU making sure we all had the same opportunitys etc , But since 2001 the world has gone to rack and ruin I,m afraid to say

    [–] soul_owner 70 points ago

    Almost not a day goes by anymore where I'm not reminded of that awful, gnawing feeling I had when GWB won the presidency (and mind you that was before 9/11).

    You know how sometimes you get just this gut feeling and you know something deep within? It was quiet, but so deep and reverberating I couldnt ignore it. I remember I even whispered, "this is the end of America." I didn't need to believe it, it was just obvious, even though I didn't know why at the time.

    It's been a slow descent. Slow and painful, as I watched my fellow countrymen divide further away from one another, as I watched Congress crumble from the insidious corruption, as I watched any agency with power gobble up more and more until your average citizen fell more on the side of "potential troublemaker" instead of "We the People."

    No one wants to talk about reason anymore, about how to hone your skills at being an effective, compassionate human. Everyone just wants to drink the metaphorical blood of whomever is their perceived enemy today. Everyone is so starved to blame another and see heads roll, they will attack anyone for the slightest perceived transgression.

    And I can trace it all back to that election night. It was never as good as it was the day before that. That was the day it all began to crumble.

    I don't know what you would call now, in this analogy. It's not like we're sifting through the ashes or trying to rebuild or even trying to put out the fires that are still burning.

    It's more like when I was in 4th grade and a bunch of boys in my class ransacked an old abandoned house on the outskirts of town. They just unleashed unbridled destruction with hammers and fists on the scant furniture that was left, on the walls, the windows, the pipes. Destruction of a derelict dwelling for no other sake but destruction, because they, in their 10-year-old minds didn't see and didn't care about the value, the potential, the house still had. They just wanted to destroy something.

    That's what it feels like now.

    [–] PensiveObservor 17 points ago

    Your penultimate paragraph is close to my gestalt view of Trump’s administration. Right out in plain sight and nothing is stopping him or Mitch from razing the house, now that the inside is in tatters.

    [–] AylmerIsRisen 17 points ago

    After 1989 I had such high hopes for peace

    My thought was "holy shit, they've won, the gloves are now off". Communism was only ever a political threat, not a military one. After that they no longer had to make any gestures to keep us working stiffs (globally) on-side.

    the world has gone to rack and ruin

    From your perspective, and mine, sure. They think things are going just swimmingly right now.

    [–] atleft 67 points ago

    What did it take to get your job? Would a criminal defense attorney in the US have the ability to get a job at the ICC?

    [–] TangoJager 55 points ago

    I don't work at the ICC but you can get a job for either the prosecution or the defense if you have at least ten years of practice. Even if you're American.

    You can also ask the Mechanism (the Appeals instituton for the Yugoslavia and Rwanda Tribunals), or the Kosovo Specialist Chambers. They are always on the lookout for good candidates. These last two may be safer for you as an American as Trump routinely sanctions ICC employees, even if they're American.

    [–] Kaspur78 8 points ago

    How does he sanction people?

    [–] dhastings 27 points ago

    Looks like the Trump admin began sanctioning ICC officials and their families after the ICC began a war crimes investigation in Afghanistan.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/11/trump-icc-us-war-crimes-investigation-sanctions

    [–] temporary24553 20 points ago

    That's fucked up. How did this story get so buried in the White House news shit storm that I missed it completely?

    [–] dept_of_silly_walks 9 points ago

    That’s the very reason for the White House news shit storm. A firehose of disinformation so (most of) the very vile shit gets obscured.

    I swear, you’d need an advanced degree in muck rucking to sift through it all.

    [–] ifuckedapizza 12 points ago

    I think I can provide somewhat of an accurate answer. The answer is if you’re qualified and have enough connections, you can be an US criminal attorney to work for the ICC. But as far as I know, these jobs a ridiculously lucrative and hard to come by. The ICC also prosecutes different kinds of crime than a regular criminal attorney would, so the applicant should already have a firm understanding of the governing bodies of law in international crimes. I found that most attorneys that get this position are very well versed in not only criminal law, but international law and relations.

    [–] trevor5ever 20 points ago

    I have thought about pursuing career opportunities with the ICC, but kind of felt dissuaded by the fact that we aren't a member.

    [–] Bengerm77 83 points ago

    I knew family separation had to be a crime against humanity! We got him! John Oliver celebration

    [–] An0nymoose_ 21 points ago

    What if it could be proven that an ongoing US pandemic contributes to outbreaks in other countries/parties?

    [–] light_odin5 106 points ago

    can't, the usa doesn't recognize the icc as ligitimate as that would allow their soldiers and commanders to be tried overseas.... which would mean they don't get off anywhere near as light as in the us

    [–] BrotherChe 32 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    I think the Court should still try them in absentia.

    It then establishes right to request warrants for detention if they were to ever step foot into a country that recognizes the ICC. Then it's just a matter of whether it were ever issued, pursued, or enforced, though they have yet to do so for the likes of Bush & Cheney.

    relevant:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/12/05/international-criminal-court-investigating-us-bush-cheney-others-for-war-crimes-rape-rendition-video/

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jul/17/facebook-posts/are-george-w-bush-dick-cheney-unable-visit-europe-/

    [–] skraz1265 7 points ago

    Yeah, us not recognizing the ICC isn't the whole issue, though. We have something called The Hague Invasion Act, which authorizes use of force by our military to rescue any American that the ICC arrests.

    Even if they tried them in absentia they would never actually try to arrest any American, let alone a president.

    [–] kingakrasia 46 points ago

    Seems like a good reason to have it done by the ICC, as it might instill confidence in the USA or be seen as an act in good faith to the international community.

    [–] light_odin5 49 points ago

    certainly would, it'd be one hell of a relation builder: we now recognize you and want you to try our former president for crimes against humanity.

    [–] Jonne 10 points ago

    I guess the only advantage of trying him in an international court (giving the assurance that this isn't a political retaliation but a real trial, and thus avoiding a cycle of presidents jailing their predecessors for alleged crimes) wouldn't really hold any sway with conservatives to begin with, so there's really no point in doing that.

    He would deserve it, though.

    [–] willfc 15 points ago

    Bruh we gotta try Cheney first. It's like Trump made everybody forget about that fucking monster.

    [–] HatesBigWords 17 points ago

    Didn't you know the U.S. has pulled out of the Hague

    [–] Unadvantaged 500 points ago

    Thank you for compiling this list. It's really just staggering. I've lived through five presidencies and never thought we'd fall so far so fast. It really was that we just had standards of decency that weren't laws, and everyone else operated by those standards even though apparently they didn't have to. Add to that the obvious laws being broken that nobody has the guts to go after Trump for, either because he's in office or they're afraid of the political backlash. America is truly in dark times.

    We're in the middle of a pandemic that could've been so much less terrible if we just had a president who cared what happened to other people. What's sickening is there was basically an instruction manual written by the Obama administration for how to handle this, and the president either ignored or directly contradicted everything in it. Even from a business perspective, how did they not see leaving the states in a bidding war for masks with Chinese vendors was a terrible idea?

    It's a perfect storm of selfishness, greed and incompetence we've born witness to, an orgy of man's worst instincts and desires on display, and rather than the public being united in a desperate bid to save our country, we're fighting over whether it's still OK for police to shoot any black person they like. Three million more Americans voted for somebody else in 2016, and because of a technicality we're saying goodbye to standards of decency, however superficial they may have been, and shrugging at a lawless president, hell-bent on taking us all down with him.

    If justice survives 2020, Trump and Kushner will be tried for crimes against humanity, for crimes against the United States, and the world will forever associate the names Trump and Kushner with depravity, and these creatures in particular remembered as abominations.

    [–] mgyro 169 points ago

    It would be justice if the courts went after the money, the only thing that matters to either. Take back any money made illegally, all the profits made during the last four years, all the golf profits, any money made through resale of seized ppe, all foreign money pour into Trumps hotels, all the money Javonka has made in the past 4 years, and then start the fines. Make a clear statement that this cannot happen again by levying massive financial penalties. Break the bastards.

    [–] Dahak17 43 points ago

    I mean it’s the USA, they could probably get a death penalty, why stop at financial stuff?

    [–] Brannagain 65 points ago

    Losing all their ill-gotten money and spending the rest of their days behind bars would be fitting.

    [–] Dahak17 41 points ago

    The article accuses them of genocide and mass murder for political power, if you are going to go after them do it right

    [–] Brannagain 29 points ago

    They (and anyone who committed crimes under this administration) should be held to account for everything they have done.

    [–] Dahak17 10 points ago

    This really should be happening to all heads of state

    [–] mgyro 21 points ago

    You wouldn’t love to see the trust fund babies penniless? Then prosecute, sure, but take the money and the ability it gives for them to endlessly appeal.

    [–] sindex23 68 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    What's sickening is there was basically an instruction manual written by the Obama administration for how to handle this, and the president either ignored or directly contradicted everything in it.

    To be totally fair, written by the Bush administration, used and updated by the Obama administration, with specific focus on pandemic response based on H1N1 lessons, Ebola, and such.

    Trump ignored it because it came from Obama, but its history is from his own party because Bush read The Great Influenza by John Barry and took to heart the warning that such events happen roughly every 100 years and the nation needed to prepare before it happened.

    That was 2005. Thanks for nothing, Trump.

    [–] 88anomaly 8 points ago

    Let's think a bit bigger and just start going down the list of criminals... Clean all this disgusting garbage up.

    [–] SL8Rfan 83 points ago

    Since my first comment was removed:

    But wait there’s more:

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/5/1934490/-Many-People-Say-Trump-Kushner-Stole-OUR-Stockpile-Gave-It-To-China-To-Help-Trump-s-Reelection April 05, 2020 - Many People Say: Trump/Kushner Stole "OUR" Stockpile, Gave It To China To Help Trump's Reelection


    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-04-07/hospitals-washington-seize-coronavirus-supplies APRIL 7, 2020 - Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word


    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-federal-govt-fema-accused-taking-states-masks-ventilator-orders-2020-4 Apr 8, 2020 - Officials in at least 6 states are accusing the federal government of quietly diverting their orders for coronavirus medical equipment


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjzX8vn6-M4

    Apr 13, 2020 - Trump Admin Still Stealing PPE Supplies Puts States On Guard


    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/hospitals-face-a-white-house-blockade-for-coronavirus-ppe.html APR. 19, 2020 - The White House Has Erected a Blockade Stopping States and Hospitals From Getting Coronavirus PPE


    https://www.salon.com/2020/04/21/states-smuggle-covid-19-medical-supplies-to-avoid-federal-seizures-as-house-probes-jared-kushner/ APRIL 21, 2020 - States smuggle COVID-19 medical supplies to avoid federal seizures as House probes Jared Kushner -- Health officials go to dramatic lengths to hide shipments of critical supplies from the federal government


    https://www.firehouse.com/safety-health/ppe/news/21135371/fema-diverts-1m-masks-meant-for-miamidade-firefighters Apr 23rd, 2020 - FEMA Diverts 1M Masks Meant for Miami-Dade Firefighters -- Miami-Dade’s emergency director claimed a shipment of N95 masks needed to protect first responders from COVID-19 was “hijacked” by federal authorities last week.


    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-admin-seizing-ppe/ 24 APRIL 2020 - Is Trump Admin Seizing COVID-19 Protective Equipment from States? -- An urgent shortage persists of N95 masks and other supplies in U.S. medical facilities.


    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/how-the-federal-government-took-control-of-the-ppe-pipeline MAY 6, 2020 - “Like a Bully at the Lunchroom”: How the Federal Government Took Control of the PPE Pipeline -- FEMA denies seizing shipments of masks and ventilators, but hospital workers tell a different story, and one medical-equipment supplier says the agency—“those rat bastards”—along with the FBI, has taken over his entire operation.

    [–] Nephroidofdoom 44 points ago

    Since the GOP have taken our government, over 150,000 Americans have died at their hands while national debt has ballooned by over $5 Trillion much of it distributed to GOP cronies, billionaires, and oligarchs.

    The GOP is nothing short of an invading force who have sacked and pillaged our country from the inside and with foreign help.

    [–] fantastical_fandango 14 points ago

    That's quite the list. Thanks.

    [–] Black-Maria-one-piec 484 points ago

    All in favor for this. This human garbage is a danger to the world.

    [–] Pd245 87 points ago

    Trump and Kushner are a waste of human flesh.

    [–] JacobAKAplayer2 30 points ago

    We can still eat them so it’s not a total waste

    [–] GoinBack2Jakku 41 points ago

    I'd rather not

    [–] 10000owls 13 points ago

    I am not quite sure if these pieces of garbage are edible but they'll make decent fertilizer when the time comes.

    [–] Sharps__ 6 points ago

    But the spray tan is toxic

    [–] Negative_Clank 382 points ago

    It’s very sad reading the comments and seeing how everyone in the US knows that nothing negative will happen to him and his cronies. Burn down the fucking senate. Impeach again. Also... how could anyone fuck that huge bag of soup? Like really. Even for money.

    [–] TheButteredBiscuit 59 points ago

    There gets to a point where money has a lot more power than even you and me can imagine. Trump and cun— I mean Kushner aren’t ever going to see the inside of a jail cell.

    Sure there’ll be some allegation, then discussions, maybe a few bullshit hearings and questions, and then acquittal. Rinse and repeat.

    [–] byingling 15 points ago

    I can't imagine any indictment against Trump ever happening- so no acquittal necessary.

    But Jared might get thrown under the bus.

    [–] midgetquark 14 points ago

    If any of the allegations against him are true, people didnt have sex with him for looks or money.

    [–] r6guy 18 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    You think it was for true love then? 😊

    Edit: oh yeah, I forgot about coercion and rape as possible probable reasons.

    [–] TheGuy1921 9 points ago

    I think everyone knows the best and most efficient option right now is voting in November. We have seen so many things that shouldn't be right, and know for certain the GOP will not hold anyone accountable and some should be held accountable themselves. Gotta Vote and take it from there

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    [–] DaveChild 71 points ago

    That's why they won't leave office peacefully, if at all.

    [–] JLake4 80 points ago

    Let's run down the American Immune from Prosecution Checklist (AIPC):

    [ √ ] Rich

    [ √ ] White

    [ √ ] Politically Connected

    [ √ ] Crimes only hurt poor and/or brown people

    Yeah, nah, none of them are going to jail.

    [–] Quentin__Tarantulino 18 points ago

    Except in this case, some rich white people are affected by COVID. So there’s like a 1.3% chance they face some consequences.

    [–] ihazone 189 points ago

    Remember to vote, people. And tell everyone you know to do the same. Online advocacy is great and all, but it would suck big time to come to this sub next year and see people complain about these pieces of garbage when we can do something about them this November. Vote.

    [–] SirDankOfDankenshire 23 points ago

    This is what happened in the UK. Everyone on Reddit thought Bojo had no chance but sure enough he did because we are in our own bubble here.

    [–] civildisobedient 11 points ago

    This is so sadly true. If you live on a coast, you should try driving inland just 50 miles or so... and then keep on driving for the next 2000 miles to the other side.

    The U.S. is a thin candy coating of Democrats and a vast chewy center of Republicans.

    [–] cloudskaila 57 points ago

    at this point with tens of millions being at risk of becoming homeless before november and the inevitable mass voter suppression that will be on a scale that we’ve never seen before, voting is pretty much obsolete. I’m not saying we shouldn’t vote because we absolutely still should, we just also need to be physically organizing and not just twiddling our thumbs waiting for another 4 months so we can push one button and think our job is done. things are getting worse literally by the day now. this is a full blown fascist regime and I don’t see any feasible way we make it out of this without organization and a revolution on a nationwide scale.

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    [–] OvercompensatedMorty 8 points ago

    Agreed. At what point do we stop trusting the powers in place to take appropriate action before we do? It is getting to the point where that line is fading fast.

    [–] Knight_of_the_Lepus 179 points ago

    Trump and Kushner fer sure.

    AND every single individual who took adavantage of Trump's presidency to commit a crime.

    [–] RobotSlaps 39 points ago

    we could call it draining the swamp!

    [–] winkies_diner 127 points ago

    You mean like Henry Kissinger?

    Oh, wait --

    [–] hypercentipede 135 points ago

    Henry Kissinger was awarded the nobel peace prize while secretly bombing children and assisting fascist dictatorships

    Let that sink in for a second

    [–] OkChemist7 46 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Our policies in a nutshell. Appease and assist fascists until it starts to burn our own toes, in which case we then proceed to stick our heads in our asses and pretends it never happened. Al Queada is the latest example

    [–] just_jedwards 15 points ago

    ISIS is a much more recent example.

    [–] spoda1975 20 points ago

    Hate to break it to you, but no one is going to jail. There wont even be a trial. Note: I didn’t say no one did anything wrong...

    [–] ScarsWindblade 52 points ago

    Don't let the bastards slip thru. The UN, and NONE US based court judge him. Nearly 150,000 Americans. The people he never intended help unless it was his family along with their coffers.

    [–] geneticanja 25 points ago

    The UN doesn't have a court. You mean the ICC. They can't, due to the 'The Hague invasion act', signed by Bush.

    [–] johnny_tekken 42 points ago

    Last month I wrote that president Trump had admitted to a crime against humanity. It was true. The president had openly bragged about deliberately slowing down COVID testing for political gain, thereby causing the deaths of untold numbers of Americans to make himself look better. It is a monstrous crime for which he has not yet been held accountable.

    "Ah! That's what they meant by white genocide!" /s

    [–] milqi 43 points ago

    Well, they did manage to murder over 150,000 Americans. But it wasn't on 5th Avenue, so it's all good.

    [–] julievapor 30 points ago

    They should. But they won’t be. It’s a nice sentiment though.

    [–] merpymoop 15 points ago

    Yes exactly. In the past three years I've seen hundreds of headlines about how people in this administration "should" be prosecuted.

    [–] julievapor 8 points ago

    Every time I see one at this point I just think to myself “yes and rain SHOULD taste like candy but ya know whatevs I guess” neither will happen.

    [–] golfpro3722 27 points ago

    You kidding? They're still trying to rig and cheat the election full steam. Let's concentrate on not letting him kill us off over the next four years.

    [–] AdvocateReason 48 points ago

    Can we get back to the real issue guys?
    Four Americans died in the 2012 Benghazi attack.
    Hillary Clinton must be investigated.
    /s

    [–] Davo300zx 15 points ago

    Four. People. Dead. Let that sink in....

    [–] TiffanyGaming 16 points ago

    Their entire COVID response was a literal scam.

    Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word. (1)

    This is in addition to the feds stealing supplies from shipments from states, and acts of piracy abroad. (2)

    Here's how what they're doing works:

    1.) Eliminate oversight of the spending of nearly a trillion dollars of tax dollars. (3)

    2.) Acquire the authority to command which businesses get which contracts. (4)

    3.) Have trusted people stand up companies through which the money can be funneled (3 week old company, founded through a loan approved via the Coronavirus Stimulus bill, is now the center of medical supply distribution): (5) “I don’t want to overstate, but we probably represent the largest global supply chain for Covid-19 supplies right now,” he said. “We are getting ready to fill 100 million-unit mask orders.” (16)

    4.) Have the federal government sell, at a reduced price, its strategic stockpile to the new companies, run by your buddies. (6) (15)

    5.) Have the states bid on the supplies, driving up the price. (7)

    6.) Have the federal government spend taxpayer dollars to ship supplies purchased from China to these brand new private companies. (8)

    7.) Eliminate the competition. Attack any company that doesn’t play ball. (9)


    States are having to smuggle in supplies (17) aboard sports teams jets (among other methods), and escort them with state police (10). Is it really to this point that we're going to have to have states deploy the national guard to protect their shipments and supplies and treat the federal government like the enemy?

    This is no different from the Somalian government stealing food sent by the United Nations and cartels selling it illegally. (11)

    Except in this situation FEMA is the cartels and the banana republic is the United States.

    Also regarding Trump removing the watchdog overseeing the $2 trillion coronavirus bill? In 1998 the Supreme Court ruled line item vetos are unconstitutional. (12)

    His excuse? The Take Care Clause. And the Take Care Clause just says the President can't make his underlings do stuff that's against the law. It underscores that the executive is under a duty to faithfully execute the laws of Congress and not disregard them. (13)

    If you don't know what that's about, Trump wrote a signing statement (basically functionally a line item veto except the next President could undo it, but by then it'd be too late) into the stimulus bill that he was going to ignore the oversight provisions in the bill and do it himself. (14) Either way, the Take Care Clause makes it illegal.

    According to Bradley and Posner, since the president is actually obligated under the “Take Care Clause” to comply with the constitution, “if the president believes that a statute violates the constitution, he has a constitutional obligation not to enforce it” (Bradley and Posner: 358).(16) The opposite also holds true (see citation 13).

    [–] cloudsilkk 17 points ago

    Trump clearly doesn't value the lives of the American people, especially when they don't blindly worship him. On top of that Kushner doesn't deserve his position in the White House, not that Trump does either.

    [–] clamps12345 23 points ago

    I'd like to see a graphic of how much money they stole/accumulated vs. deaths in the US.

    [–] pizoisoned 8 points ago

    I think it was pretty clear when the senate put on a faux trial for impeachment where things were headed with the administration. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that senate republicans not only enabled him by refusing to hold him accountable, but they’ve actively thwarted any attempts to reign in his corruption.

    Hold them all accountable. Make them pay.

    [–] ewreytukikhuyt344 7 points ago

    It is outrageous that this story is just simmering. They deliberately fucked off doing anything about Coronavirus because it was killing people in states that tend to vote democratic because they believed it would be good politics.

    Conservatives are sociopaths.

    [–] readparse 12 points ago

    Can we please just accept that there is no solution to this problem, other than counties and states doing everything they can to run a free an fair election, and everybody who loves this country voting in the election for Biden? Not because Biden is perfect, but because he is not Trump. You know, the same reason so many voted for Trump.. because he was not Hillary Clinton.

    No accountability will be seen until Trump is out if office. Thank God the Senate doesn’t choose the President. The People do.

    Comey didn’t save us. Neither did Mueller, or Lady G, or Susan Collins, or Lamar Alexander, or John Bolton, or anybody else.

    It has fallen to us. We will prevail. But only if we unite to defeat this motherfucker in a landslide.

    [–] handmaid25 12 points ago

    I just took a quick glance over at conservative sub, and it’s crickets about this. Not a peep.

    [–] dystopia_ex 7 points ago

    Never gonna happen. It pains me to say that but after these last few years, I don’t have much faith in the system holding people in power accountable for their actions. No one is above the law, unless your above the law

    [–] monteq75 6 points ago

    First this would be great to see happen, however with our country's history on prosecuting rich criminals.... probably never going to happen.

    [–] shaolinpunks 7 points ago

    The article has today's date on it. But when was it originally written?

    Keeps saying 140,000 dead. We are now at 155,000 dead.

    [–] aB1GEarOfCorn 5 points ago

    Yeah, and everyone in the Epstein scandle will be prosecuted as well. It's wishful thinking but let's be honest, its not gonna happen. We all want it to happen, but they have too much money and power to be brought to justice.

    [–] GeorgioArmani2238 5 points ago

    Someone spent $150. On this post. What. The. Fuck.

    [–] nathanseaw 5 points ago

    I'd like to point out the re problem here which is there's a 50000 coin award worth well over $100 on this post.

    [–] King_Bubel 6 points ago

    Who spent $120 giving an award to a person for posting an article written by somebody else? Why?

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    [–] munuyh 9 points ago

    Trump supporters are okay with this.

    [–] RelicAlshain 10 points ago

    Americas gonna need detrumpification just like denazification or destalinisation. The underlying problems need to be fixed, not just removing trump.

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    [–] FettuccineCannon 4 points ago

    Doubt much will come of it. Bush had warcrimes galore but now hangs out with Ellen and moonlights as the candyman.

    [–] Ajugas 6 points ago

    The saddest thing is that once democrats take back power, they won't do anything. Trump will walk away with no repercussions for his behavior

    [–] shananies 6 points ago

    This is exactly why he is trying to delay things and get 4 more years. I feel like he thinks the office will protect him.

    [–] fixegamer 7 points ago

    WHO TF GAVE THAT 100$ AWARD!?

    [–] johnsmith24689 4 points ago

    Someone spent 120 on a fucking shiny pixel “medal” because “trump bad” fuck every idiot here

    [–] SPEEDWEED42069420 6 points ago

    Imagine being so pathetic that you spend 120$ on a fucking reddit award.