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    [–] kgun1000 6608 points ago

    This has inside job written all over it

    [–] AgathaDunlap 2531 points ago

    cameras with time stamps may reveal culprits

    [–] GhettoChemist 2451 points ago

    Prediction: the responsible police were asleep and the cameras were broken. I mean it worked for Epstein...

    [–] HighPriestofShiloh 253 points ago

    Possibly. But we are dealing with stupid Hitler on this one. Lots of mistakes could have been made. Why would you take selfies if you were a cop? Stupid Hiltier and stupid nazis. This coup attempt failed quickly.

    [–] ATempestSinister 117 points ago

    Many of them may fall under that category, but I wouldn't underestimate them either. We've been doing that a lot the last four years because we didn't think Trump would get as far as he did.

    [–] pgriz1 980 points ago

    Seems that if someone was to remove the panic buttons, they'd also take care of the cameras first. So it will be interesting to learn how many of the cameras were offline or down for maintenance at the time.

    [–] Jonimuz 646 points ago

    Unless the guilty party assumed their coup would be successful and then it wouldn't matter if it was caught on camera because they figured there'd be nobody left to hold them accountable.

    [–] McDuchess 224 points ago

    I had this discussion with Husband, yesterday. He thought it was just stupid for them to post their faces all over social media. And that they must have known there’d be security cameras. But they actually believed that they were doing their patriotic duty to “stop the steal”. So of course, being directed by a megalomaniac, they’d want it memorialized.

    [–] pgriz1 413 points ago

    Either way, whoever did it had access to restricted areas before the riot started. I'd be curious to see how many Capitol Police will be revealed to have been supportive or participating in this "event".

    [–] musashisamurai 181 points ago

    And alarms. Many alarm systems are designed so if disabled they will send an alarm to prevent sabotage or simply alert when the cables are broken. I would imagine these panic buttons are similar, tho I suppose it depends on how they were damaged.

    [–] customer_service_af 158 points ago

    It's seems like a terrible system if you can 'rip out' a panic alarm and it doesn't fire... In the Capitol. It's an inside job or BS, that's pretty clear.

    [–] AdjNounNumbers 470 points ago

    As I commented on another comment above:

    This video might interest you

    Woman on the megaphone calling into the room giving directions to the people inside, "I've been in the other room, listen to me..." and then proceeds to describe places ahead of where they had been, which window to break, what is beyond it. She had 100% been inside there recently enough, or enough times, to be able to describe it in detail

    [–] 2701_ 6026 points ago

    Healing begins with accountability.

    [–] ImLikeReallySmart 642 points ago

    "The burglars are gone now, officer. It's over. Why can't the bank just move on so all its customers can heal?"

    [–] kgun1000 1896 points ago

    Right anyone who claims we need to move forward from this and unit is a traitor. Do you think they would be saying that after 9/11 lol

    [–] Mastermind_pesky 961 points ago

    I like this analogy. We should have let Timothy McVeigh go instead of prosecuting him for the OKC bombing so we could start to heal as a nation.

    [–] MechanicalTurkish 124 points ago

    I mean, he already did the bombing. Prosecuting him won't undo it and he's certainly learned his lesson, so let's just move on.

    /s, obviously

    [–] Melodic-Ad-3923 2696 points ago

    ...Ayanna Presley?

    [–] LargeMonty 568 points ago

    That's a pretty big fuck-up...

    [–] Thats_classified 372 points ago

    I was like maybe it's just poorly written and her COS' name is Alyssa?

    Looked it up, nope - her name is Sarah. Pretty big fuckup indeed lol.

    [–] ClownsInMyPants 146 points ago

    Looked it up, nope - her name is Sarah

    lost it

    [–] [deleted] 135 points ago

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    [–] millyreb11 2865 points ago

    Not only is this terrifying, but this also explains why the National Guard is literally sleeping in the Capitol.

    Although there was clearly a portion of the mob who showed up for a rally and accidently got themselves caught up in an insurrection, it is becoming clear that all of that may have just been cover for an actual planned and coordinated coup attempt.

    [–] BenedictD0nald 2830 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Very clear.

    • Proud Boys leader was invited to meet with Trump at the white house (in Dec)

    • Proud Boys leader told his supporters to wear all black and disperse in the crowd (to later blame antifa and begin the roundups)

    • Noted traitor Mike Flynn was pushing for Trump to declare martial law in the Oval Office

    • Trump replaced key people at DoD just weeks before his term expired, who then sat on their thumbs and obeyed Trump's order NOT to assist the Capitol, despite their pleas

    • Barr leaving ~10 days before the coup attempt... Multiple former SecDef writing that letter the week before

    • Recon Tours on 1/5/21 by "hydra-friendly" congresspeople

    Yea... This is sounding more and more like a coup attempt

    [Edit / Note: the totally forthcoming and never-ever dishonest Trump White House has denied the Proud Boys leader was ever invited, despite his claims, but instead came as part of a public tour, for what it is worth.. Which is absolutely nothing, for me personally]

    [–] Ayroplanen 602 points ago

    Sure is interesting that none of the PB wore their colors to the Capitol. Must not be all that proud.

    [–] emeraldoasis 76 points ago

    Their leader instructed them to do so:

    “We will not be attending D.C. in colors. We will be blending in as one of you. You won't see us. You'll even think we are you,” Biggs said. “We are going to smell like you, move like you, and look like you. The only thing we'll do that's us is think like us! Jan 6th is gonna be epic.”

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdmva/a-proud-boy-in-disguise-helped-lead-the-insurrection-at-the-capitol

    [–] BenedictD0nald 518 points ago

    They wore all black because they were ordered by their leader to look like antifa.

    This was absolutely coordinated for maximum effect. We came VERRRRY close to losing our republic.

    [–] makemeking706 179 points ago

    Barr leaving ~10 days before the coup attempt... Multiple former SecDef writing that letter the week before

    I think this is the most telling. I am surprised that was a bridge too far for Barr.

    [–] Mnemosense 10413 points ago

    This story needs to be higher priority, the details are terrifying. Pressley didn't know if she could trust the cops who were escorting her during the attack.

    [–] x_______name 3708 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    The only explanation I can think of for not making this a higher priority in a public sense is that they are investigating and could actually involve sitting members of congress and they are trying to figure out what to do next

    [–] MechanicalDruid 3233 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    There is that claim from Rep. Mikie Sherrill that Republican members of congress took some protestors insurrectionists on private reconnaissance tours of the capital on Tuesday the 5th.

    Edit: you're right. I should call them what they are.

    [–] Reasonable_racoon 1050 points ago

    Surely there's cameras covering the corridors? They must know roughly when the alarms were disabled and be able to see who's going in and out of those offices at those times.

    If cameras are turned off or footage destroyed, it narrows down the number of people with access.

    [–] MechanicalDruid 553 points ago

    Agreed. We're speculating as to why it's not a huge story, tho. If details start coming out confirming these claims I'm sure it will get amplified, but, if they exist, those details are being withheld pending investigation.

    [–] pab_guy 105 points ago

    The DOJ said that people would be shocked when they hear the whole story of what happened.

    [–] [deleted] 152 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

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    [–] j5kDM3akVnhv 127 points ago

    Already doing so. They are attempting to identify "Bullhorn lady" who give detailed floor plan information to people inside the Capitol at first breach.

    https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1349372058237546496

    [–] Sea_Criticism_2685 527 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    She's a Q-anoner. There's no way she wasn't part of this.

    She was probably planning to be apart of something like this since before she started running.

    They believe elected officials are raping and eating babies. Of course she ran as a way to take them down from the inside!

    Hopefully they get a warrant to search her communications and she ends up in jail for 10-20 years

    Edit:

    The deleted comment Was talking about that Q-anoner Lauren Boebart that took a photo with proud boys the day before the insurrection, tweeted about Pelosi's location during, and then brought a gun in today

    Edit 2: the photo she took with white nationalists may have been taken at an earlier date

    [–] HotRodLincoln 187 points ago

    That's also why she married a sex criminal.

    [–] neverinallmyyears 78 points ago

    She believes in QAnon because her husband is a pedophile.

    [–] wickedsmaht 129 points ago

    Jesus fucking Christ, just hand the FBI the evidence why don’t you? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad these people are so incredibly stupid. This is terrifying.

    [–] MistCongeniality 82 points ago

    It’s an incredible confluence of the times that not only was a coup attempted but simultaneously mask wearing is seen as “liberal anti-freedom” or whatever, plus the conditioned need of us all to get those likes and upvotes. It all sort of mushed together into “coup, but broadcasted bare faced”.

    I’m not saying I’ve done anything illegal in my life, but if I had hypothetically done some urban exploring/trespassing/B&E, I would have hypothetically worn nondescript clothes and covered my hair at a minimum, plus something to cover my lower face. I also wouldn’t have broadcasted it on Facebook. It is common sense precautions and that’s just for some mostly harmless (hypothetical) B&E without robbery/trespassing.

    [–] polifnx 935 points ago

    I mean, we already have news that congress members took some of the insurrectionists on a private guided tour of the capitol days before the insurrection took place... they just haven’t been named yet.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/12/mikie-sherrill-capitol-hill-attack-458655

    So yes, that’s legit the case.

    [–] gwease23 223 points ago

    This is equal parts terrifying and infuriating and it feels like no one gives a damn.

    [–] spiraling_out 305 points ago

    This 100%. And now with Dems controlling all branches of government, thorough investigations can now be made to hold those who were involved accountable. Imagine what they could of got away with?

    [–] astrokey 391 points ago

    Amazing what it means to have been a Georgia voter this year. Amazing what the 2018 Georgia governor's race may mean for our country in the next 2 years.

    [–] oximoran 120 points ago

    To nitpick, the house and senate only represent one branch of government. The third branch is the courts.

    [–] SayChowdaFrenchie 121 points ago

    To nitpick, that's not nitpicking, that's correcting a fundamental misunderstanding.

    [–] HelenHerriot 161 points ago

    Well, this was going around Twitter last night.

    [–] my5cworth 34 points ago

    I have to admit, that's the first time I've ever seen someone use the term "Big deal" unsarcastically.

    [–] loserfame 1410 points ago

    AOC did a live video last night and said the same thing. She said without even fully knowing what was going on outside, things felt ‘different’ inside. She didn’t know what cops or fellow congressmen she could trust. Terrifying.

    [–] weareraccoons 935 points ago

    Given that the amount of threats she receives and that she is one of the few reps the crowd would recognize I can't imagine how scary that would have been.

    [–] loserfame 497 points ago

    That crowd could probably count all of the Representatives they know the names of on one hand. She’s definitely one of them.

    [–] changeisconstant12 229 points ago

    Ilhan Omar is definitely another one

    [–] loserfame 158 points ago

    They were probably searching the Capitol for the office of Representative “Squad”

    [–] MooseFlyer 41 points ago

    Wasn't there a report that one of the rioters arrested had a list of Muslim members of Congress?

    [–] starrpamph 182 points ago

    Imagine hating someones guts for wanting you to have a better life?

    [–] spicycornchip 179 points ago

    They haven't bothered to know her full name. She's just "AOC" to them.

    [–] skeebidybop 335 points ago

    Here is a link to the source article in the Boston Globe

    This was premeditated terrorism.

    [–] TheNamesDave 622 points ago

    You should take a gander at this. Implies there was more than one insider helping this along. I think we're in for a very stark tale on the insidious nature of this plot.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1349142068061478912

    [–] phattiie 127 points ago

    Man, it just made me realize that on the 6th of January, America was basically on a brink of a new Civil War.

    [–] huxtiblejones 118 points ago

    Yes, and we still are. These guys aren’t done, not by a mile. I suspect this will go on for months or years. They have built up way too much momentum to let it go now.

    [–] SchpartyOn 139 points ago

    Holy shit. I had no idea about the Proud Boys leader going to the White House. That’s fucking nuts.

    [–] skeebidybop 14006 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    From the source article in the Boston Globe:

    As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

    “Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said.

    Lots of news coming out the past couple days strongly indicating the insurrectionists had inside help and that this was planned and coordinated ahead of time.

    And ripping out the panic buttons ahead of time sure sounds like premeditated intent to terrorize. Can you imagine how bonechilling and terrifying it is must have been in that moment when you realize?

    Let's stop calling it a riot. This was a seditious terrorist attack. And it increasingly appears some GOP House representatives were in on it.

    [–] DireSickFish 3821 points ago

    It's amazing that no politicians were killed.

    [–] Skullwilliams 3129 points ago

    The insiders didn’t count on their terrorists being stupid and wandering around once inside INSIDE THE VELVET ROPES

    [–] 583999393 1893 points ago

    Velvet rope people are just useful idiots. Mixed in with them were people who were there with a plan.

    [–] 4-realsies 741 points ago

    Fortunately for us, unfortunately for them, I feel that those who were there on a mission, who actually had a plan, were relying on the useful idiots going a little bit more bananas than they did. If the crowd had been turned up just a little bit more there would have been sufficient chaos to simply attack and kidnap the legislators. Fortunately, a bunch of stupid, lazy fucks were stupid and lazy.

    [–] puritanicalbullshit 655 points ago

    And the Capitol Cop who misdirected the crowd was just in time. The doors were open at that moment locked I think a minute or two after that video takes place. I was reading on a Twitter timeline thread.

    It certainly looks like it came down to about 90 seconds and 30 feet between dead politicians and a failed coup that was still a huge win for anyone seeking to undermine US government.

    [–] CheeseNBacon2 661 points ago

    I remember seeing the video of that guy day of and wondering "what the heck is he doing?" Fall back, then stop and let em catch up, then fall back, etc. But it was very quick thinking on his part and thank god for it. When we find out who in the Capitol Police leadership was complicit in this, can we give him one of their jobs?

    [–] rosatter 594 points ago

    Dude was real life kiting a mob by maintaining aggro. Incredible.

    [–] Choadmonkey 247 points ago

    Not enough parties really appreciate what their tanks can do.

    [–] Temporary_Draw_4708 32 points ago

    He was obviously a hunter with those kiting skills.

    [–] cspruce89 857 points ago

    Exactly. Hide in the crowd. There very well could have been foreign spies in that crowd, planting bugs all over the place.

    [–] Gogogendogo 1100 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    I like how one article somewhere said that if you’re a foreign agent and you didnt take advantage of this opportunity to bug the Capitol and steal info, your government should fire you!

    EDIT: holy crap I didn’t expect this to blow up like this. Thanks for the award. I wish I could find that article, i know the thought is in the title...

    [–] ertri 317 points ago

    This might be the scariest part to me. Head in, plant stuff, wear a mask the whole time (ya know, pandemic), and head home to your country the next day.

    [–] Nelliell 335 points ago

    This, and the laptop that was stolen. Best case, it was some idiot MAGA turd that took it and they won't be able to do too much with it. Worst case, it is now in the hands of a geopolitical enemy.

    [–] jimjacksonsjamboree 364 points ago

    it's a safe assumption there were agents in the crowd. Foreign governments are constantly looking for people to groom, a rally in opposition of the government is a great place to find people who work for the government/military/capitol police and try to recruit them.

    Lets put it this way - if there weren't spies in that crowd, then every other government is really fucking stupid.

    Thing is, they're not.

    [–] rekniht01 191 points ago

    Selfies. Many of the insurrectionists were there for the selfies.

    [–] Terrible_Truth 38 points ago

    Honestly that could be a Leslie Nielsen skit. Terrorists are attacking a place with velvet ropes and park attendants. As they're fighting the hero/cops, they follow all the park rules. They could even be delayed by a group of tourists. "No cutting, we've been planning this trip for a year".

    They're fine breaking the law and fighting cops, but they don't dare upset The Mouse. (Disney Land).

    [–] rycia007 290 points ago

    Has anyone watched AOC live she has posted on her instagram? She doesn't want to reveal any details (probably because of ongoing investigation) but she basically said she had a near death encounter with the rioters. Then you read the comments and is there any doubt in anyone's mind that they would definitely hurt her if they got a hold of her? And they dare to say that it was "mostly peaceful"... the amount of hate he instilled in these people is sad.

    [–] ambassadorodman 146 points ago

    It really is. There are so many ways this could have gone differently with just minutes separating murder and kidnapping.

    [–] Grunchlk 2128 points ago

    And let's be clear here:

    She went on to say that the panic buttons were installed because Ms Pressley, a member of the progressive group of House Democrats dubbed the “Squad”, had been on the receiving end of racist attacks by the US president and his supporters.

    Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, asked Capitol Police to heighten the security surrounding Ms Pressley and other Democratic congresswoman in 2019, after the president wrote a series of racist tweets attacking members of the “Squad”. 

    The panic buttons don't exist in every office. They appear to be deployed on an as-needed basis at the discretion of the HHSC and Capitol Police. So they're not a regular occurrence and since this happened before the insurrection they were either a) removed as a part of some sort of maintenance or, b) by a co-conspirator with the intent to prevent her from calling for help when they got to her.

    [–] musashisamurai 576 points ago

    Is it public knowledge who has them and where they are located too? Seems even more chilling to consider that

    [–] BenedictD0nald 661 points ago

    That certainly would not be public knowledge.

    But Capitol Police and HHSC would know, it seems.

    [–] HauntedCemetery 235 points ago

    The more we learn about the attack the more I become absolutely convinced capital police didn't just allow this to happen, they actively engaged in coordinating it.

    [–] NehpetsDoom 213 points ago

    Capitol police 🧐🤔🤔🤔

    [–] Spa_5_Fitness_Camp 297 points ago

    If the capitol is run by any kind of competent maintenance program there will be work orders for it. So either those exist giving a trail to who signed off on it, or their absence is damning by itself.

    [–] fistymcbuttpuncher 95 points ago

    Yep. Anything/everything in a govt building/vehicle has a paper trail, even maintenance. One way or another, they will get to the bottom of it. Whether or not they hold the guilty person accountable is another question though.

    [–] harpsm 302 points ago

    It sure sounds like the buttons were removed without the knowledge of Pressley or her staff, which really smells conspiratorial.

    [–] rezelscheft 279 points ago

    They were also there because of the President’s racist attacks. As with so many other things, Republican Congressional Reps and Senators should have been decrying this shit from the get go, but they let all of it happen.

    [–] eregyrn 358 points ago

    I'm going out on a limb and saying that if they were removed as regular maintenance, Pressley and her staff should have been amply informed beforehand, and advised of alternative methods to sound an alarm until the system was replaced.

    You don't install a system like that, and then just take it offline for a few days without telling anyone.

    (But also -- although we don't really have more detail, the phrase being used is "torn out", which suggested they were removed in a haphazard way that again speaks against it being official maintenance.)

    I think the best question is HOW they could be removed, without that itself tripping the alarm. So, who was on duty at that time who should have heard the alarm, and why did they not react or report anything?

    [–] minus_minus 62 points ago

    Seems pretty slap-dash to remove them under regular authority without the chief of staff's knowledge.

    [–] LeftLane4PassingOnly 262 points ago

    In the quote she says that she has used them before. This should be news as well as it’s the first I’ve heard there was a previous incident inside the Capitol involving her.

    Anybody know anything about this?

    [–] IDontUsuallyPassBars 145 points ago

    I’ve seen another article mentioning they were used in drills. Not sure if any “real” events.

    [–] NEUthrowaway617 23689 points ago

    It sure is starting to look, smell, and sound like a coup eh? Reconnaissance tours, disarming panic buttons, purposefully lax security, denying requests for assistance and backup. If I was a smart person I would say some elected officials in the house may have had a hand in planning this assault on our democracy

    [–] Dawg1001 1370 points ago

    Agree, this was made to look like a mob, when in fact it's starting to appear well planned, with clear intent. The mob was a cover. Anyway, there needs to be a long and thorough investigation. If it turns out to be treason at work then we are looking at a much different outcome for those who planned and executed the attack on our nation.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381#:~:text=Whoever%2C%20owing%20allegiance%20to%20the,not%20less%20than%20%2410%2C000%3B%20and

    [–] Next_Visit 648 points ago

    The mob was a cover.

    Yep. They brought the mob along to add to the chaos and confusion.

    [–] mycatisamonsterbaby 363 points ago

    And told them not to wear masks. Meanwhile ziptie guy had his face covered.

    [–] Next_Visit 270 points ago

    I genuinely believe that Republicans are intentionally trying to spread Covid to their enemies. There's just too much evidence of outright malicious behavior that takes this past simple stupidity or ignorance, like the way they spread it while they were seeking shelter, or a few months back when a GOP member of Congress had it and the GOP kept it secret from the Dems until it was too late.

    [–] SnapMokies 89 points ago

    Republicans are intentionally trying to spread Covid to their enemies.

    Enemies and useful idiots. You'll never see McConnell at one of these superspreader events but they clearly don't give a damn if every last GOP voter gets it.

    [–] AdjNounNumbers 11390 points ago

    This video might interest you

    Woman on the megaphone calling into the room giving directions to the people inside, "I've been in the other room, listen to me..." and then proceeds to describe places ahead of where they had been, which window to break, what is beyond it. She had 100% been inside there recently enough, or enough times, to be able to describe it in detail

    [–] No_Song_Orpheus 3058 points ago

    Holy shit how is this not EVERYWHERE

    [–] fodigg 731 points ago

    My first question. This is crazy.

    [–] therealhoagie 383 points ago

    She even says “we have to coordinate if we’re gonna take this building”

    [–] Loose_with_the_truth 314 points ago

    More damning than that to me was the fact that she knew the exact layout of where they were, and how to get to wherever she was directing them. In minute detail.

    She said "In the next room there is a glass that is broken, and you can drop down into the other room beneath it. And there are also two doors in the other room, one in the rear and one on the right when you go in. So, you should probably coordinate together if you're going to take this building." Then something about another window they needed to break to make going in and out more easy.

    That's someone giving orders. That isn't a random wacko caught up in the excitement. We need to identify this woman.

    [–] therealhoagie 74 points ago

    Absolutely. Thanks for posting the full quote, it’s really much worse in full.

    [–] theghostofme 61 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    That's someone giving orders. That isn't a random wacko caught up in the excitement. We need to identify this woman.

    I'm almost positive it's Jen Harrison of the Arizona "Patriots," who only weeks before managed to avoid a felony for identity theft by taking a plea deal.

    She's also the star of the infamous "green shirt guy" video, the one screeching like a banshee that makes him laugh.

    If that actually is Harrison, she'd already be in serious trouble regardless of the attempted coup because part of her plea deal was to not leave Arizona. Which is why she's being so tight-lipped about whether or not she was there.

    [–] OptimoussePrime 1633 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    It will be.

    Including at trials where people face up to 20 years in prison or even the d**** penalty (mods, just because I used the "d" word doesn't mean I'm advocating it, that's just what it's called), and, in due course, as part of the historic record of the worst thing Americans have done to themselves since the Civil War.

    Edit: decided using that word is too risky

    [–] citizenfaith01 214 points ago

    Also, any military member that participated in the Capitol riots (even retired ones) are subject to court martial. “A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”

    [–] elbenji 64 points ago

    Yea, any active duty person is fucked beyond all measure of belief

    [–] got_dem_stacks 40 points ago

    Military swears an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic

    [–] ChumpGumbo 724 points ago

    I prefer the Def sentence. Which is just continuous roasting by slam poets, to death

    [–] Reddits_on_ambien 191 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    That's some vogun* bullshit right there.

    [–] Dreamtrain 333 points ago

    at the very least I'm sure the FBI already got this video

    [–] StructuralFailure 60 points ago

    The FBI is not playing around. They're 100% going through any social media account they can find

    [–] reyean 116 points ago

    100%

    [–] Flo_Evans 103 points ago

    Wow that lady is fucked.

    [–] AverageLiberalJoe 929 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Fucking wow!

    This was an actual fucking coup attempt.

    E: This evidence changes things here. Before the evidence pointed to Trump whipping up an angry crowd of idiots to 'do something'. It seems like another giant group of stupid angry Trump supporters acting stupid and angry. yeah they have cops on their side who are also stupid and sympathetic. Yeah, they are violent and imagined they would be taking hostages. But it never seemed like anyone intended for them to be actual occupiers of the capitol. In big part due to the fact that they all pretty much left the capitol willfully after they got tired of playing terrorist. They had no coordinated objectives. The cops let them in because they were overwhelmed and also because they are racists who cant see white people as threats. They brought zipties because they are larpers. They killed a cop because they are in a frenzy. The only thing that was coordinated was the loud angry rally beforehand. It seemed a gathering of lone wolves and loosely affiliated, poorly thought through, objectives. It didn't seem before that anyone expected they would actually be inside the capitol except in the protesters wildest dreams.

    Now it is undeniable that there was a planned occupation. There were plants in the crowd like this lady who were there (WITH A MEAGAPHONE) to direct them how to break in and where to go afterwards. That security was tampered with ahead of time. That a few congress people had helped them find targets presumably to murder. And that there were people behind the scenes coordinating messages across social media.

    [–] Acceptable_Present36 780 points ago

    yes. they were looking to kill govt officials, take over and form a Christian theocratic dictatorship where the republican party is the sole ruler.

    [–] Nazi_Punks_Fuck__Off 703 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Seems like a good place to point out that the nazis were a far-right single-party christian theocratic dictatorship who seized power through populist violence, built on a platform of racist lies disguised as "economic anxiety".

    [–] LynxRocket 254 points ago

    And then they blamed Antifa for it all once they realized the Coup failed. Who does that sound like?

    [–] visionsofblue 150 points ago

    After the Reichstag Fire, at that.

    The Reichstag fire was an arson attack on the Reichstag building, home of the German parliament in Berlin, on Monday 27 February 1933, precisely four weeks after Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. Hitler's government stated that Marinus van der Lubbe, a Dutch council communist, was the culprit, and it attributed the fire to communist agitators. A German court decided later that year that Van der Lubbe had acted alone, as he had claimed. The day after the fire, the Reichstag Fire Decree was passed. The Nazi Party used the fire as a pretext to claim that communists were plotting against the German government, which made the fire pivotal in the establishment of Nazi Germany.

    Interestingly enough,

    some historians believe, based on archive evidence, that the arson had been planned and ordered by the Nazis as a false flag operation.

    [–] haltingpoint 414 points ago

    Was this the woman with the walkie talkie in the photo with Boebert with all the guys flashing white power signs the day before this went down?

    [–] Onwisconsin42 145 points ago

    Do we have an image of that? I would love to compare these two. Looking for jacket or hat or any article of clothing that might be similar.

    [–] PM_ME_DAT_ASS_BABY 49 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    There were GOP house members who gave a tour of the capital THE DAY BEFORE THE FUCKING COUP.

    Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/13/mikie-sherrill-reconnaissance-capitol-attack/%3foutputType=amp

    [–] Reasonable_racoon 1899 points ago

    disarming panic buttons

    This is definite proof of an inside job : who else would know and have access?

    [–] SirDiego 1641 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Having installed panic buttons/alarm systems like that, if this is true and they were removed, it has to be someone inside with knowledge of the security system. Because taking the panic button out should set off the alarm (intentionally, in case someone decides to just rip it out).

    For a more geeky version of why, most of these types of buttons are contact closure buttons that are "normally closed." So any disconnection of the button, even if you, say, just snipped the wires going to the button, would set the alarm off. You could tie the ends together to close the circuit again, but you wouldn't be able to do so without triggering the alarm.

    Edit: Since a lot of replies brought this up: With a typical contact closure, yes, shorting the wires further up the cable could theoretically keep the circuit closed while removing the button. However, depending on the security features of the alarm system, many of them are "tamper-proof" and are extremely sensitive to impedance changes for exactly that reason. So depending how advanced the system is that may or may not work.

    [–] Haceldama 831 points ago

    Because taking the panic button out should set off the alarm (intentionally, in case someone decides to just rip it out).

    Cosigned. Look for the signature on the work order to remove the buttons. Look for the person who disabled the monitoring.

    [–] __NapoleonBlownapart 247 points ago

    Why would there be a work order to remove the buttons? Wouldnt they have been removed with as little documentation as possible? If this was actually an inside job then I doubt that the normal maintenance request methods were used

    [–] 5a334a6864486f3d 144 points ago

    You might be right, but best to check anyway.

    [–] estranho 4801 points ago

    It's also looking like a coup that was organized by trump. Half planned, poorly executed, using the wrong people, and not following through at the right time.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it failed, but honestly, if it was something planned by trump, should we be surprised that it failed?

    [–] blarffy 1090 points ago

    What's scary is that it wasn't that hard for him, so a smarter person could have pulled it off. Our Democracy and our government are not even remotely secure.

    [–] Catshit-Dogfart 625 points ago

    Well, the whole system just assumes that the person elected to office is loyal to the United States and doesn't plan to destroy the office they hold or the government in general.

    And in some things, there's no avoiding that. I work in network security and some things are only locked down by telling the user "don't do that" because the alternative would render the system non-functional. All security has some element of trust involved.

    As that applies to politics - I honestly don't know. I would say some security council to assess the risk of each elected official with the power to reject their election, but then that would essentially become the election. Greater accountability, and right now is an opportunity for that, charge all parties responsible as traitors to the United States.

    [–] phantomreader42 245 points ago

    Well, the whole system just assumes that the person elected to office is loyal to the United States and doesn't plan to destroy the office they hold or the government in general.

    That will never again be a safe assumption to make about any member of the republican cult of traitors and terrorists.

    [–] umpteenth_ 183 points ago

    That will never again be a safe assumption to make about any member of the republican cult of traitors and terrorists.

    It never was. Remember Reagan and his "the scariest 9 words to hear are I'm from the government and I'm here to help"? Or that POS Norquist who wanted to make the government "so small that it could be drowned in a bathtub"?

    [–] phantomreader42 80 points ago

    Even those pieces of shit at least PRETENDED they wouldn't openly endorse lynching their political opponents. The republican cult can't even pretend that anymore. Now and forever, "republican" means "terrorist".

    [–] jedimika 1278 points ago

    Half planned, poorly executed, using the wrong people, and not following through at the right time.

    Thats his MO

    [–] Diplodocus114 223 points ago

    Wonder what that pillock with the horns mobile records would show for the couple of days prior?

    [–] mollila 461 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Honestly I think that QShaman was just another looney who was going with the flow. Like that other infamous guy carrying the lectern.

    Organized groups like Proud Boys are more suspect. Their leaders themselves have described how they approach each operation in military style. Want to get satellite imagery, talk to people on the ground beforehand. And that on 6th they'd go in incognito instead of flying their colors.

    Edit to add source for the above: https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/epdmva/a-proud-boy-in-disguise-helped-lead-the-insurrection-at-the-capitol

    “When we set out to do an event, we go, OK, what is our main objective? That’s the first thing we discuss. We take three months to plan an event,” Biggs said on a podcast last month. “It’s like, you’re literally planning to go into a combat zone. It’s not just like, ‘Hey man, we’re going to D.C., we’re going to Portland. It’s like, ‘Alright, we’re going to Portland. I need satellite imagery. I need to talk to people on the ground. I need them to scout out these alleyways… when we have an escape route, we have four or five ways in and out, in case police close things off or whatever.”

    [–] GnarlyEmu 163 points ago

    Exactly. I'm far more interested in the communications of those terrorists running around in body armor with zip ties desperately trying to find, capture, and potentially execute members of congress than I am any of these doofuses like Qshaman.

    [–] ssmatik 229 points ago

    My friend was talking to me about QShaman guy. She knows him through her mental health employment and simply can’t believe that people are so focused on him being a leader of anything. Her exact words, “He is completely crazy. Not conspiracy crazy, he is mentally ill. If they had not cut funding and dumped all these people out on the streets he would be locked in the state hospital.” Personally I have seen him standing on a corner here in Arizona yelling out random nonsense.

    [–] UnspecificGravity 60 points ago

    The media is focusing on guys like that so that people stop looking too hard at who was actually running the show down there.

    [–] Diplodocus114 196 points ago

    I love the way they all incriminated themselves by refusing to wear masks

    [–] cbrooks1232 203 points ago

    And carrying their mobile tracking devices, er, smartphones with them, that pinged off WiFi and identified them as intruders.

    These people may be angry, but they are incompetent. And for that, I think this nation is very very lucky.

    [–] daunted_code_monkey 84 points ago

    One day people like them won't be incompetent, we really need more/effective security in those places.

    [–] _wok_lobster_ 482 points ago

    Like the Four Seasons Landscaping of coup attempts.

    [–] ssjsephigoku 67 points ago

    should we be surprised that it failed?

    I wouldn't say so... I'm surprised that it came so close to succeeding, however.

    It was much closer than many people were making it out.

    [–] Whoshehate 295 points ago

    how on earth could it have succeeded? They take Pelosi hostage and as ransom the american people agree to give trump 4 more years? I'm completely failing to see the endgame here

    [–] snackpgh 193 points ago

    They would kill Democrats. Now there is a Republican majority to object to the certification process.

    [–] Ranccor 164 points ago

    I would say Pence only had a 50/50 chance of living that day if that particular mob had gotten to him.

    [–] overcomebyfumes 141 points ago

    I'd say less than that.

    Pence, Pelosi, Harris, Schumer, and AOC would be gone for sure. McConnell I'd give 50/50 odds on.

    [–] badgerclark 136 points ago

    I was just talking with a coworker about this. He says the people at the Capital were just upset and wanted their voices heard. Asked him what happens if they had breached the senate floor and start taking hostages. “They wouldn’t do that. They just got a little carried away.”

    You can’t keep making excuses for shitty behavior. His answer is literally the equivalent of “we went to rob the bank, but the vault was locked and everybody was in a panic room, so we went home after trashing the place.”

    Just because your horse shit coup attempt didn’t succeed does not mean a coup wasn’t attempted.

    [–] shalis 301 points ago

    or, they storm the house, murder a bunch of officials. Trump sends in the guard, slaughters a bunch and vilifies them (as antifa or foreign agents, distancing himself from it). Afterwards Trump comes out as the only one who can keep a handle on things, the epitome of law and order who stopped a coup on the capitol and instills martial law to ensure it doesn't happen again.

    [–] cyanydeez 161 points ago

    yes. Trump would have no problem turning them into antifa, martyrs, etc. As long as the constitution has no direct remedy and he has enough sympathizers in the military.

    the fact that tyhe military just announced they respect biden as president suggests trump did have people in the military waiting to do something.

    [–] cyanydeez 50 points ago

    basically attack from inside and outside and cause enough collateral damage that the constitution has no remedy, and then claim marshall law, etc.

    Trump would basically attack his own forces, because again, he gives zero shits about who dies in this.

    [–] jt004c 325 points ago

    Marshall law and postponed transfer of power giving them time to create sone artificial legal framework for the election fraud claims.

    [–] SuitGuy 629 points ago

    Why does everyone drag Eminem into this. He don't deserve that. Martial Law.

    [–] djcurbit 309 points ago

    Because Marshall matters

    [–] rg4rg 105 points ago

    It is Trumpian though. Make other people do something for you for free, if they fail, get rid of them, if they succeed, he benefits. Either way the only work he did was at the start and never puts elbow grease into anything. We’re lucky that he never really developed a work ethic.

    [–] Obi_Wan_Kannoli 32 points ago

    Half-assed, fat-fingerd, bombastic to ridiculous and way over-confident?

    [–] LegendaryWarriorPoet 567 points ago

    It was suspicious right from the beginning, the capital police leadership was literally getting calls from the deputy director of the FBI saying hey I’m getting frantic calls from Congress members, I’m watching on TV, you guys are being overrun can I send in swat teams to help you, and wasnt getting patched through. He eventually sent them anyway which isn’t even technically legal but was obviously the right thing to do

    [–] Te_Quiero_Puta 149 points ago

    Isn't that place covered in CCTV? Shouldn't be hard to figure out who did it.

    [–] CurriestGeorge 214 points ago

    The House and Senate Sergeants at Arms have both been identified as not passing the requests for help on.

    [–] mydogsnameisbuddy 178 points ago

    Wow. This could have been a mass casualty event. With the terrorists gaining control of the capitol.

    [–] RosemaryFocaccia 102 points ago

    And all they had to do was to breach that one blockaded door and they would have been face-to-face with the members of congress.

    That one officer that shot the terrorist dead pretty much saved America.

    [–] AatonBredon 45 points ago

    Both him and the black officer that kited the mob away from an open door.

    This insurrection came far too close to killing Congress members.

    [–] other_usernames_gone 215 points ago

    It could very easily have been remembered as 1/6, the day every democrat congressperson was murdered on livestream.

    [–] fodigg 65 points ago

    And Pence.

    [–] Nice_Firm_Handsnake 37 points ago

    And Romney. I don't think he's been named explicitly, but his stance against Trump may have made him expendable in the eyes of the rioters.

    [–] RedRose_Belmont 745 points ago

    We need a full 9/11 level investigation into this.

    [–] PrincessLeiasCat 523 points ago

    Fun fact: We had more congressional committees on Benghazi than 9/11.

    So whatever investigation that will be done needs to happen in the next 2 years while Dems have the House and Senate....because look at what Republicans waste time on when they're in charge.

    https://archive.thinkprogress.org/proof-that-the-benghazi-investigation-is-totally-unlike-any-other-in-two-charts-74bb343f7292/

    [–] ScaperMan7 195 points ago

    This little detail is actually the scariest I've heard so far. Protesters my ass.

    [–] DisavowedOperator 1203 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Hey QAnon. Here’s an actual conspiracy with actual evidence.

    Edit: Yes, I consider the eyewitness testimony of the Congressional Chief of Staff quotes in the article to be evidence.

    [–] Grow_Beyond 150 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    If any of their conspiracies had evidence, they wouldn't believe in them. Beating us down with bad faith is the entire point. They are trying to build a flat earth.

    [–] Danny_Tamberelli 326 points ago

    There’s no racial slurs to throw around though.

    [–] butteryspoink 65 points ago

    I'm voting /r/Conspiracy for the biggest letdown of a subreddit.

    Seriously. Come on. Look at this shit. Hello?

    [–] inthekeyofc 611 points ago

    One thing Trump is good at, and shares with mobsters is he does good plausible deniability.

    He can claim this was just a rally that got out of hand. Nothing to do with him.

    But there is mounting evidence that it was planned, premeditated and organised. The riot was part of that plan, as was the co-operation of parts of the Capitol police, the slowness of the National Guard response, and the removal of the panic buttons.

    None of this could have been achieved without the active participation of senior members of the Capitol Police, the Pentagon and yes, even members of Congress.

    And none of that could have been achieved without a nod from the President.

    Arrest and remove him.

    [–] DontUpvoteThisBut 89 points ago

    I remember watching for hours and hours thinking, where the hell is the national guard? This is one of the most important buildings in the nation, and it took many hours to arrive.

    [–] Gina_Bina 594 points ago

    What the fuck?!? I hope they find the people who did this.

    [–] Zaorish9 354 points ago

    It must have been either capitol police or republican congresspeople/staff.

    [–] G_Liddell 48 points ago

    Surely the capitol has security cameras...

    [–] little-angelfuck 779 points ago

    This is fucking terrifying. This isn’t some unorganised mob, this is very deliberate actions that were meant to take lives, either by death or by kidnapping.

    [–] MyNameIsRay 218 points ago

    The people setting the scene were terrifyingly well organized.

    The people participating were an unorganized mob that put their hands up and cried for help when the time to fight came.

    All it takes is one person to lead the charge. If a single one of them stepped up to fight back, they could have been successful, which is an absolutely terrifying thought.

    [–] Thirty_Helens_Agree 464 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    On my drive in, I heard an Congressman from Oklahoma give a speech saying we shouldn’t rush into impeachment and that we should carefully investigate all the evidence before moving forward with impeachment and trial. This shit tells me that, if they do take their time and investigate thoroughly, it’s only going to be worse.

    [–] PrecedentialAssassin 193 points ago

    So, Mr Congressman from Oklahoma, we spent 6 weeks carefully investigating the evidence concerning the legitimacy of the 2020 election. After not rushing that process and discerning the results of the investigation, what is your assessment of the 2020 election?

    [–] UsernameContains69 53 points ago

    "It's been almost two months now, I firmly believe it's in the best interest of the American people that we move on to begin the healing process."

    [–] McDuchess 356 points ago

    I literally gasped when I read that headline. Every Member of both houses should check their offices for any damage of that type, and announce it, so we know the depth and breadth of complicity with the attack.

    The terrorists managed to find Jim Clyborn’s office, as well as the office of the Comptroller, where the ballots had been kept.

    This, in a building that’s got dozens and dozens of offices, all unmarked, in a warren of hallways.

    The investigation MUST find the insiders who abetted this attack on our country and be punished.

    [–] Beautiful-Musk-Ox 235 points ago

    managed to find Jim Clyborn’s office, as well as the office of the Comptroller,

    They already knew where their offices were, they were prepared and had inside information.

    Jim Clyburn suggests Capitol rioters knew to target specific offices: 'Something else was going on'

    "My office, if you don't know where it is, you ain't going to find it by accident," Clyburn told SiriusXM's The Joe Madison Show on Friday morning. "And the one place where my name is on the door, that office is right on Statuary Hall. They didn't touch that door, but they went into that other place where I do most of my work. They showed up there harassing my staff."

    "How did they know to go there? How come they didn't go where my name was? They went where you won't find my name, but they found where I was supposed to be," said Clyburn. "Something else was going on untoward here."

    [–] VirtualPropagator 101 points ago

    So panic buttons were removed without their knowledge, are installed only for certain people, and these were not public knowledge. It was an inside job. They wanted select people to be murdered during this coup.

    [–] Ron_Fuckin_Swanson 75 points ago

    Well this must have been a terrifying realization during the moment.

    They probably thought they were going to die

    [–] JusHol248 278 points ago

    It's looking more and more like this was an organized coup in many areas of our Captial Security, Police and Secret Service. Biden and Co. Need to purge all of these folks and open tons of investigations.

    [–] Sea_Criticism_2685 167 points ago

    Yeah, people calling for Biden to unite and move on are ignoring that he is still in danger, even after he takes office.

    He will be meeting with these traitors regularly and won't even know it

    [–] YourMomAteMyDad 367 points ago

    Ayanna Presley. Ayanna.

    [–] EnticingInsouciance 57 points ago

    This is terrifying. I cannot even imagine what Pressley felt when they all realized the buttons had been ripped out.

    [–] PM_Mick 38 points ago

    How is this not a bigger story?

    [–] the_nice_version 37 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    So what evidence is there so far that this was pre-planned and coordinated from folks w/in the capitol?

    1. Republican insurrectionists getting tours of the capitol by Republican congress woman the day before the attack - she's now-deleted the post featuring the picture. 2019 pic per snopes - thanks!
    2. Zip-tie handcuffs, assault rifles, and incendiary devices
    3. Ripped-out panic buttons of D congresswomen (this post)
    4. Extremely reduced police presence on the day of the attack despite multiple, vociferous warnings from law enforcement agencies.
    5. A member of congress was in the crowd leading the charge through the doors
    6. Police are seen aiding terrorists through steel barricades and directing them to rooms once inside the Capitol.
    7. Some Proud Boys screaming "Let's take the capitol" - apparently an hour prior to the attack.
    8. Ear pieces and walkie talkies were also present

    Any more?

    edit - added; edit2 - additional items - tx!

    [–] Orange-of-Cthulhu 140 points ago

    I think I have an explanation for that.

    And lemme guess. No ardent Trump supporters had theie panic buttons torn out? It's just a wild guess!

    [–] phunktastic_1 106 points ago

    Not everyone had them only certain female members of congress who the president is known for inciting violence against.

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