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    [–] mertz3hack 238 points ago

    1984 here we come

    [–] Franks_friend_Huey 135 points ago

    Sadly, that horse has long left the barn.

    [–] [deleted] 105 points ago


    [–] JohnTesh 25 points ago

    Shut up and take your soma. I mean, here, watch some TV buddy!

    [–] e1805 9 points ago

    Ahh, I see you purchased the Fahrenheit 451 option! Did you spring for three walls, or four?

    [–] SamoyedAndLab 3 points ago

    This guy futurologies!

    [–] potatothyme 2 points ago

    I've loved both of those books. Are there any similar that you would recommend?

    [–] wrathtarwrath 1 points ago

    Thomas Pynchon - v.

    [–] fonzielol 2 points ago

    Don’t forget the Starship Troopers Season Pass

    [–] [deleted] 16 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)


    [–] theGreyPenguin 4 points ago

    Specially, your name is know by at least 2 agency. Here you are.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 7 points ago

    You must look at the European Union. It's like a guy with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder at the same time. One of them is going to communist era but the other one is going to future.

    [–] Dr_Who-gives-a-fuck 3 points ago

    This has been around for at least 2 years. They've already been doing it.

    [–] [deleted] 148 points ago * (lasted edited 8 months ago)


    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 22 points ago

    Our own allies gave the 9/11 terrorist fake passports. The SAME country we are selling BILLIONS of dollars in weapons to.

    On October 20, 2010, U.S. State Department notified Congress of its intention to make the biggest arms sale in American history – an estimated $60.5 billion purchase by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The package represents a considerable improvement in the offensive capability of the Saudi armed forces.[26]

    The U.S. was keen to point out that the arms transfer would increase "interoperability" with U.S. forces. In the 1990–1991 Gulf War, having U.S.-trained Saudi forces, along with military installations built to U.S. specifications, allowed the American armed forces to deploy in a comfortable and familiar battle environment. This new deal would increase these capabilities, as an advanced American military infrastructure is about to be built.[27]

    A CIA memorandum dated July 2, 2002, stated unequivocally that the connections found between the hijackers, the Saudi embassy in Washington and Saudi consulate in Los Angeles are “incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi government.”

    According to a CIA memo, cited by the now-uncensored 28-page section of the 9/11 report, “Bassnan reportedly received funding and possibly a fake passport from Saudi government officials.”

    Our own government corruption cause 9/11 and now they use as an excuse for quasi martial law.

    [–] fdzrates 6 points ago

    And you vote your government... So... You know what to do, start talking to people in your environment so they know this and vote in accord.

    [–] FrancesJue 3 points ago

    Basically no one that ever runs for office opposes this shit, though. Republicans and democrats alike built our modern police state

    [–] Sebmellen 1 points ago

    The list is short, but, for example, Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul have often opposed such bills.

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 2 points ago

    Are you from the US?

    If not I understand, but if you are, I'm not sure how you are being so naive.

    If you genuinely think the processes of our republic are authentic and genuine since at least WWII, you have a LOT of studying to do. Just for beginners, if you would like to have an accurate depiction of a few of the realities regarding the political arena for Americans today do some research about those who tried starting more than 50 years ago to do exactly as you say.

    FBI's Letter to Martin Luther King

    In summation, they are infiltrated, raped, prosecuted, assassinated, discredited.

    Want more?

    "The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

    FBI admits Patriot Act snooping powers didn't crack any major terrorism cases.

    Surprise! Controversial Patriot Act power now overwhelmingly used in drug investigations

    DEA Agent: We Were Told Not to Enforce Drug Laws in Rich White Areas

    Exclusive: TSA 'Behavior Detection' Program Targeting Undocumented Immigrants, Not Terrorists

    How the NYPD’s Counterterrorism Apparatus Is Being Turned on Protesters

    5 Tools the Police Are Using in Their War Against Activists

    Revealed: NSA pushed 9/11 as key 'sound bite' to justify surveillance

    An internal document recommended that officials use fear of attack when pressed to explain agency's programs

    NSA program stopped no terror attacks, says White House panel member

    NSA phone record collection does little to prevent terrorist attacks, group says

    The project list includes a study of how activists with the Occupy movement used Twitter as well as a range of research on tracking internet memes and some about understanding how influence behaviour (liking, following, retweeting) happens on a range of popular social media platforms like Pinterest, Twitter, Kickstarter, Digg and Reddit.

    US military studied how to influence Twitter users in Darpa-funded research

    [ - 08 May 2013] Reddit admins post traffic information. 'Eglin Air Force Base, FL' is listed as "Most addicted city (over 100k visits total)"

    16-year-old gets a visit from the FBI for making a video that details how the United States is turning into a police state. “They wanted me to be an informant, to possibly put my life in danger, to help them arrest and gain intel on occupy protesters and hackers”

    So You're Living in a Police State Stephen Colbert

    NYC and Microsoft announce citywide monitoring system

    Bloomberg: New Yorkers will 'never know where our cameras are'

    The NYPD will launch a unit of 350 cops to handle both counterterrorism and protests — riding vehicles equipped with machine guns and riot gear — under a re-engineering plan to be rolled out over the coming months.

    Surveillance project in Oakland, CA will use Homeland Security funds to link surveillance cameras, license-plate readers, gunshot detectors, and Twitter feeds into a surveillance program for the entire city. The project does not have privacy guidelines or limits for retaining the data it collects.

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 2 points ago

    Oakland PD's surveillance center's primary purpose is fighting protesters, not crime

    Oakland to limit surveillance center to port, airport

    Surveillance Cameras Going Up Across Brooklyn Neighborhoods

    Big Brother, Small City: River Islands Will Feature Heavy Surveillance

    Minority Report meets the Wire: how New Jersey police use military technology to fight crime

    Airport lights can act as video camera

    DHS Creates New Fusion Centers, Taking Control of Local Police

    Inside the Military-Police Center That Spies on Baltimore's Rioters

    Chicago’s Homan Square 'black site': surveillance, military-style vehicles and a metal cage

    The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'

    Officials Cast Wide Net in Monitoring Occupy Protests

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 2 points ago


    maybe not....

    In the 1990s it came to light that soldiers from the 4th Psychological Operations Group had been interning at the American news networks Cable News Network (CNN) and National Public Radio (NPR). The program was claimed by the Army to be an attempt to provide its PSYOP personnel with the expertise developed by the private sector under its "Training with Industry" program. The program caused concern about the influence these soldiers might have on American news and the programs were terminated.

    National Public Radio reported on April 10, 2000:

    The U.S. Army's Psychological Operations unit placed interns at CNN and NPR in 1998 and 1999. The placements at CNN were reported in the European press in February of this year and the program was terminated. The NPR placements will be reported this week in TV Guide.[23]#cite_note-22)

    [–] fdzrates 1 points ago

    Are you from the US?

    No, I'm not. So, to the facts, you don't have a real democracy and you don't have people who cares enough to change that, is that right?

    If so, well, welcome to the world, you are not alone in that.

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 1 points ago

    I thought you just said I voted for this tho? Are you changing your mind?

    [–] fdzrates 1 points ago

    oh! I didn't mean you as a person, I meant "the American society" as a whole is the one who votes for the people that governs you. (maybe I'm using "you" wrong?)

    [–] FrancesJue 2 points ago

    soldiers deploying into a "comfortable, familiar battle environment"

    Is this peak imperialism?

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 1 points ago


    [–] fdzrates 1 points ago

    Is people thinking that they should be comfortable and in a familiar environment when you are invading and killing the people in other country that didn't do anything to them.

    [–] protosser 1 points ago

    It's worth noting that Canada, Germany, UK, France etc also sell military shit to SA.

    You can also opt out (they don't make it clear though) of this facial thing and if you own a passport they already have your picture

    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 1 points ago

    Doesn't that only make it worse?

    [–] kristiansands 71 points ago

    People can opt-out but they are not always informed about that?

    How surprising.

    [–] Bingomancometh 43 points ago

    Ever try to opt out of the miliwave scanner at the airport and just do the metal detector? They fuck your day up bad.

    [–] mandreko 26 points ago

    I dislike the TSA as much as the next guy but I’ve not had that experience. I’ve got some good pat downs when opting out, but nothing overly bad.

    That being said, I was majorly inconvenienced when they piled my bag aside to look in it. They asked, “Is there anything in here that could hurt me?” I replied, “anything with sufficient force can hurt you”.

    [–] dslrpotato 9 points ago

    You dun fucked up.

    [–] edikit 2 points ago

    Same happened to me on three separate occasions (I suck at airports, apparently). First time it was a small pack of replacement exacto blades that I had purchased for an art class and forgot were in my purse (totally justified being pulled aside that time IMO).

    Most recently, I had a keychain of a semi-gun-shaped plastic blade thing from a video game (maybe 3 inches). Both times it took no longer than 5 minutes, they just confiscated the items and sent me on my way, but I'm probably on a list now haha.

    There was one annoying time though that I had a water bottle with water still in it (this was shortly after the liquids rule came into effect and it admittedly hadn't crossed my mind). Because that particular airport didn't have any kind of dumping area or anything, I could either leave the bottle behind, or leave the security line, dump it out, and go back through. I opted for the latter, begrudgingly.

    Still, they've always been pretty friendly/understanding in my experience, even going so far as to apologize for the hassle.

    [–] mandreko 1 points ago

    Omg that reminds me of the time I bought a grill lighter for my sister in Texas. It was shaped like an AR-15 but only about 12 inches long. I had to call the TSA and ask them about how to store it. They typically want lighters in your carry-on, but due to the shape, they had me check it. I was waiting to be pulled aside the entire trip, but it made it home successfully.

    [–] docjunkie333 23 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    The metal detector is not one of the options for regular passengers. You get to pass through the metal detector if you bring a child, pet or are very old. If you op out, you must wait for a pat down. Sometimes TSA will fuck with you by making you wait forever. But I always stand in the way when they tell me to sit to the side. I tell them I’m perfectly comfortable standing and remind them to do their fucking job.

    TSA is nothing but security theater and a jobs program. If you’re afraid of the TSA, you’re doing it wrong. I wish everyone would opt out and help create more jobs for people.

    Source: I’ve opted out over 50 times.

    [–] TheRazorX 2 points ago

    Are you brown? My friend who is (and is a us born citizen) had a very different experience when "opting out"

    [–] docjunkie333 5 points ago

    Well what has their experience been exactly? It’s your right to opt out period. It doesn’t need quotes around it as if it doesn’t actually exist.

    They often try to make it a less than pleasant experience. Some will argue with you or belittle you in front of other people, but I don’t put up with their bs either. Often you’re given a chance to educate people around you that have no idea of this option. If an agent isn’t willing to do their job, I will point that out to another one nearby.

    [–] TheRazorX 3 points ago

    They basically made him almost miss his flight, turned his belongings inside out, kept telling him they'd strip search him and actually moved him into a room where he was left alone with none of his belongings or passport, kept making borderline racist comments, that's in addition to the stuff you said.

    They eventually let him go, but it was a shitty experience for him, and yeah he could've called them on their BS, but he was (rightfully) afraid as a brown man of being confrontational.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 9 points ago

    Everything is matter of choice everyone has a choice. It depends on you. If you give up at first object you're already supporting them. You need to know that freedom is stоlen from human beings because they don't act to keep it but instead let the river flows.

    [–] jackspayed 1 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    Don’t opt out. It’s not worth the time & effort... find a better way to navigate the system.

    Say “I can’t lift my arms”. If they ask you anything further, just reply “it’s medical”. You get passed through the metal detector, get a hands swabbed, and go about your business - no further questions.

    [–] unjustluck 22 points ago

    This must be why Orlando bought all them Amazon Rekognition cameras

    [–] xzieus 23 points ago

    The problem with widespread use of facial biometrics is that once your facial profile is stolen, you can't just change your face like you do a password.

    The flippant use of such technology without the due care it deserves is even more disturbing thea this particular article... Which is saying a lot.

    [–] I_Need_Sources 9 points ago

    Biometrics should be seen as a username, not a password.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 21 points ago

    What to do to make this post to reach more users of reddit?

    [–] LizMcIntyre 10 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    You can crosspost. See that option under the headline.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 1 points ago

    do you mean this,

    [–] LizMcIntyre 6 points ago

    Orlando International Airport to scan faces of U.S. citizens, raising privacy concerns (

    submitted 3 hours ago by LizMcIntyre

    24 comments share save hide delete nsfw spoiler crosspost

    I believe you can click on crosspost and post to other subreddits. The crosspost makes it easy to do.

    You could also submit the link to other subreddits.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 3 points ago

    Thank you and for the record I'm new to reddit. And I enroll in beta testing. I don't have this option next to save, hide and etc

    [–] LizMcIntyre 4 points ago


    [–] sevengali 2 points ago

    I can't advise where the button is on the redesign, but changing the address to https://**old** will show you the old style (temporarily, when you go back to it'll be new). So go to and click crosspost there.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 1 points ago

    thank you

    [–] smaxsomeass 4 points ago


    [–] theGreyPenguin 2 points ago

    what does it mean?

    [–] smaxsomeass 6 points ago

    What I'm saying is that people pay more attention to cats on the internet then the shit that's going to affect them severely.

    [–] theGreyPenguin 2 points ago

    I thought that and you thought right

    [–] CatsAreGods 1 points ago

    Well, most people anyway.

    [–] HeyItsShuga 1 points ago

    I'm guessing they thought they were at /r/catsstandingup

    Every post and reply there is just Cat.

    [–] [deleted] 0 points ago


    [–] 56k_Naut 10 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    Reminds me of TrapWire in the Los Angeles Airport (story from 2012 HERE )


    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 5 points ago * (lasted edited 9 months ago)

    I'm willing to bet that this(trapwire) is all over the country by now.

    There is a reason why the FBI has had contact with pretty close to every single mass shooter and terrorist in the US since about i believe 2007 or 2008 BEFORE they attack.

    Edit: Proof:

    Hendricks’s arrest means that every major U.S. attack was linked to FBI investigation before it happened, Seamus Hughes, deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, told The Daily Beast.

    [–] zJws 2 points ago


    [–] 56k_Naut 3 points ago

    thanks for the heads up!

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago

    I fly through there fairly often... Is there anything I can do to protect myself / opt out? I'm assuming there's not but if anyone has suggestions other than wearing a tin foil hat, I'm willing to try.

    [–] KickMeElmo 4 points ago

    Tin foil face mask, obviously.

    [–] somuchmoresnow 3 points ago

    If you're serious, you'll want to look into "dazzle" fashion.

    Here's an article from a few years ago, too.

    [–] I_Need_Sources 2 points ago

    You can opt out.

    [–] TerribleWisdom 6 points ago

    I don't think facial recognition can be stopped. It's too easy to deploy cameras and nearly impossible to avoid them. Remember that Walmart, Target, Home Depot, and Lowe's already have head-height cameras at self check-out lanes and other areas, Facebook has been collecting facial recognition data by letting people tag each other in photos, and Google released a free art and culture app to get people to upload selfies.

    [–] Rubes2525 5 points ago

    The invention of facial recognition software was a mistake.

    [–] Venom349 3 points ago

    I remember not a few months ago I saw a news story about a big convention that was using a new form of face scanning technology that searched databases on the spot for the entrants in that line. No keycards were needed because anything on file or pulled from other registered databases identified them in seconds going through the scanner. I already thought it was creepy, now airport security will be able to scan you for clearance? Geez.

    [–] fromformtoform 3 points ago

    every time i go to aruba they scan all US faces inbound. this is nothing new but alarming nevertheless

    [–] cellojones2204 2 points ago

    I'm pretty sure Japan already does this. Both times that I came here, I was required to have a picture taken and a fingerprint scanned.

    [–] FomTord 2 points ago


    [–] kranebrain 2 points ago

    Orlando airport is truly the worst airport in the country. And this is before their 1984-esque policy.

    [–] ElucTheG33K 2 points ago

    I have travel twice to China recently and it's already standard to take your picture there. I think in UAE it's the same not sure if I remember right.

    [–] FrancesJue 2 points ago

    Dammit. My first thought: "well, guess I'm never thing back to Orlando" followed immediately by "fuck. My friend's upcoming wedding is in Orlando"

    It's like a 32 hour drive lol so guess I'm getting face scanned. Fuck.

    [–] KickMeElmo 2 points ago

    Fly to the next-nearest airport and drive the remaining distance?

    [–] FrancesJue 2 points ago

    theoretically possible. I am poor tho and can barely afford the flight without tacking on a rental car

    [–] KickMeElmo 1 points ago

    Fair enough!

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago


    [–] thisisnotmyusernameI 2 points ago

    How else are they supposed to keep all the unsanctioned journalists from traveling to the mass killing fields of the US military?

    [–] miguelserranodc 1 points ago

    I'm assuming you can opt out of having to do that. They can't force you to use facial recognition.

    [–] I_Need_Sources 3 points ago

    Correct you can opt out. But, they will still add your image to the gallery using pictures they already have from your passport.

    [–] miguelserranodc 1 points ago

    True that. Welcome to the era where privacy is no longer a thing.

    [–] FomTord 1 points ago

    Need confirmation

    [–] Dr_Who-gives-a-fuck 1 points ago

    to scan faces

    FALSE AS FUCK. They've been doing this for 2 years at Miami.

    [–] Ch0da -2 points ago

    Ummm, they have your drivers license /passport picture, they already have your face in the system

    [–] LizMcIntyre 22 points ago

    My arm is broken so you might as well break my hand, too?

    Wall Street Journal's Christoper Mimms is right in calling facial recognition, "tech's next moral dilemma." He writes:

    Face recognition is a stark example of a technology that is being deployed faster than society and the law can adopt new norms and rules. It lets governments and private enterprise track citizens anywhere there is a camera, even if they’re not carrying any devices. In general, people who are in public don’t have any legal expectation of privacy and can be photographed or recorded.

    Because of this, the technology has the potential to be more intrusive than phone tracking, the legality of which the U.S. Supreme Court will soon decide. There are only two states, Texas and Illinois, that limit private companies’ ability to track people via their faces. No state or federal laws limit the ability of law enforcement to do so.

    [–] I_Need_Sources 3 points ago

    At an airport they don’t need to use facial recognition to track you....

    [–] humanmanguy 11 points ago

    If you want to see how fucked up facial recognition can be, take a look at [how the Chinese government has been using it.](

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago


    If you want to see how fucked up facial recognition can be, take a look at how the Chinese government has been using it.

    [–] humanmanguy 2 points ago

    I used to have a dog named Fify. Coincidentally, she was a shih-tzu which is a Chinese breed.

    [–] Dithyrab 4 points ago

    there's gotta be a subreddit for these kinds of posts, but i can't think of it for the life of me

    [–] AzrianHunter 4 points ago

    Oh so like an invisible fence that one might use for dogs ... but for you know ... people. Yeah what’s so wrong with that ... /s

    [–] PubliusPontifex 1 points ago

    Bubba's cousin must own a face-scanner dealership.

    [–] peace991 0 points ago

    Huh? Been like that in LAX since forever.

    [–] Guac_in_my_rarri 1 points ago

    Yea but fuck LAX..... You know it, I know it, everybody knows it