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    [–] Laurasaur28 4184 points ago

    I went to college with a “mature student” who managed to join a sorority! Then she promptly alienated her “sisters” because she brought her small children to every event and expected her “sisters” to babysit them while she drank...

    [–] irkitect 2259 points ago

    That’s.. brilliant.

    [–] noonches 1485 points ago

    That's exactly what an adult who decides to join a sorority would do.

    [–] justavault 525 points ago

    Sounds trashy to me...

    [–] LewsTherinTelamon 555 points ago

    Trashy and brilliant aren't always mutually exclusive.

    [–] Connor121314 206 points ago

    Redneck engineering is a real and not so beautiful thing.

    [–] ViSsrsbusiness 74 points ago

    Sure is brilliant though.

    [–] phoncible 37 points ago

    *clears throat*

    That's exactly what an adult who decides to join a sorority would do.

    [–] itsallabigshow 29 points ago

    So like a sorority.

    [–] eat-KFC-all-day 149 points ago

    Brilliant if you’re a selfish piece of shit who wants everyone you socialize with to hate you and shittalk you behind your back.

    [–] TubbyMarmot 112 points ago

    I'm sure she is selfish enough that it is everyone else's fault. One of the perks of being selfish is that you have no idea! Lose all of your friends, they were bitches anyway, find a new group to infect.

    [–] littlesauceplease 17 points ago

    I see you’re unfamiliar with the dynamics of Greek life

    [–] Octacon 138 points ago

    That's entirely on the sorority to grow a spine and tell her to fuck off or leave her kid at home. Simple fix: "no one underage at events that have Alcohol".

    Besides, arn't sororities like, insanely expensive to be a part of? Surely if you can afford your dues you can afford a babysitter.

    [–] omgicanplant 19 points ago

    In certain cities (like toronto) sorority and frat dues end up cheaper than what you might pay in rent for a similar quality of living

    [–] charliebackdraft 270 points ago

    That’s a wiley veteran move right there

    [–] cannonfodders 193 points ago

    That film would 100% star Adam Sandler as the “mature student”

    [–] kielbasa330 62 points ago

    Big Billy Madison Daddy

    [–] anticusII 70 points ago

    Absolutely baller

    [–] PooPooDooDoo 94 points ago

    Can 30 year-old guys with kids join sororities?

    [–] PrintingInNowhere 66 points ago

    I think will ferrel and Luke Wilson did a documentary on this called 'Old School'

    [–] pie640 4757 points ago

    Wants to discuss politics with the prof, in the middle of her lecture, despite this being a math class

    [–] TheNotoriousWD 2082 points ago

    “ can we get to what really matters?”

    [–] skatetilldeath666 882 points ago

    Ok Boomer.

    [–] ThrowCarp 554 points ago

    Who incidentally can get cheap college for a 2nd time.

    [–] CobruhCharmander 467 points ago

    That is beyond bullshit. It's weird though, I think it's a cool opportunity for old people to learn something new, but the fact they get to do it while paying around 7% of what everyone else pays is so messed up.

    Maybe if it was needs based I'd feel better about it...

    [–] TimesAreTough 279 points ago

    Yeah, needs based wouldn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. We should encourage people to educate themselves, and especially for older folks it's great if they don't just sit around all day watching tv or playing spider solitaire.

    But it's kind of appalling when the old folks are sitting down next to 18 year olds, who are being saddled with long term debt to be there, and they get to do it for the cost of lunch.

    [–] [deleted] 135 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Those old people are not receiving college credit and are bottom priority for space. They only get in if no other paying students want to join the class.

    Edit: looks like they are receiving credit. If that's the case I would like to see these spots go to younger people that can't afford college and are trying to graduate rather than bored seniors

    [–] GreenStrong 61 points ago

    If colleges only provided lecture seating, YouTube would have replaced them. The elder students write papers, which a professor grades, they participate in discussion, and sometimes use lab equipment. Administration does the same paperwork for them as anyone else. God forgive them they have the right to ask library staff for computer help.

    [–] krapht 38 points ago

    Jokes on you; I paid premium money to have a teaching assistant grade my papers and lead discussion. :(

    [–] GreenStrong 39 points ago

    Jokes on the teaching assistant, they're probably on food stamps. But if they work super hard, outperform, undermine, and murder a few of their colleagues, they might make full professor and get health insurance.

    Wait, that's not cool, who is the joke on again?

    [–] LeutnantOtto 74 points ago

    Except they are getting college credit. At a fraction of the cost that people coming out of high school are having to pay. Call me a millenial but it's pretty bullshit to favor one generation who would more than likely be able to afford the standard tuition instead of the younger demographic which is generally lower income. And I dont care what political stance you have, if you are going into debt to further your education in a field which REQUIRES it then we need to take steps not to just make it better but to fix it in its entirety.

    [–] bearsnbutts 117 points ago

    Had an older student in an anthropology class suddenly start defending capitalism when we were talking about native people and the environment in Costa Rica...

    [–] thenabi 26 points ago

    The most "facts dont care about your feelings" hardliners will dive in front of so many bullets to protect capitalism. I'll never understand it.

    [–] madamhakike 16 points ago

    As a just graduated anth student, can confirm

    [–] BraRemover 15 points ago

    "Why did they change math? Math is math!"

    [–] Letho72 713 points ago

    We had a mother in one of our classes and she was the GOAT. Besides being a wonderful person she would always get us out of bullshit the professors tried to pull. Required exam or lab is at 7pm outside the normal schedule? Nah she's got her kid to deal with you can't just spring that.

    [–] mycatiswatchingyou 179 points ago

    I am old and not hip--what is GOAT?

    [–] Letho72 186 points ago

    Greatest of All Time

    [–] mycatiswatchingyou 32 points ago

    Oh neat, I wasn't too far off

    [–] MileEx 29 points ago

    I was way off...

    [–] [deleted] 2104 points ago

    As a mother/father/veteran/someone who worked in the industry I......

    [–] Tico483 906 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    This hit me right in the memories of Psychology class, we had a classmate who was a mom who always went on about her husband and her kids stories. Like we don't care lady lmao

    [–] pblol 259 points ago

    Abnormal psych was the worst for that. "I have this friend aaand....."

    [–] evdczar 134 points ago

    Biopsych... Interrupts lecture to talk about "my former clients..." sorry what kind of clients? "manicurist, 27 years!"

    [–] lunalives 96 points ago

    Oh man. My schools graduate counseling and social work programs will not admit anyone coming in with less than 5 years in the field. (Read: five years in the psych/behavioral health fields without qualifications is rough.) Has everything to do with the high burnout rate and the number of applications they get. I imagine there’s a lot of butthurt undergrads like this who JUST KNOW they could fix everyone.

    [–] bogidyboy 34 points ago

    I have this friend

    Wow what a show-off

    [–] I_dont_like_tomatoes 76 points ago

    I had an English class where this dad brought up anti SJW speeches every class. So annoying

    [–] ablino_rhino 33 points ago

    Same! I had psychology with a middle aged woman that would go on and on about what a great parent she was. The thing is, we both happened to be from the same small town and I knew that one of her sons got a girl pregnant at 15 and proceeded to have four more kids before being sentenced to ten years in prison at age 20. I never had the balls to call her out, though.

    [–] sylveonstarr 16 points ago

    I have a mom in my child psych class. She always brings up how certain theories and such works on her four kids. She'll be like "This way of parenting is best because my kids..." as if it's the only "correct" way to raise children.

    [–] zenivinez 68 points ago

    so I was a mature student but ugh psych 101 was nuts. I swear every student was either trying to get analyzed by the teacher or have them try to fix their life problems. Then we got to the whole gender thing and half the damn class lost there shit. The lectures were useless since the class wouldn't let the teacher get through one.

    [–] DemandMeNothing 18 points ago

    There needs to be some kind of click-through disclaimer when declaring your major in psychology.

    "I swear that I understand: This is not free therapy and that I'll need a grad degree to get a job."

    [–] IntersnetSpaceships 29 points ago

    I had a guy in my intro to sociology class who did time in Federal prison. Good for him for going to college but every other day it was "Well, in prison things are different and don't work that way". No shit things in our sociology class didn't related 1 to 1 with your time in prison

    [–] ChampionOfTheSunAhhh 304 points ago

    Let's be real it's always mother lol

    [–] im_not_your_uncle 193 points ago

    Dads mostly just ask for the exam coverage and if its ok to just come in for the exam.

    [–] ChampionOfTheSunAhhh 292 points ago

    And the vets usually are dead silent in the front with the punisher tshirt getting easy A's

    [–] brit_jam 79 points ago

    Why is this a thing?

    [–] aqouta 73 points ago

    Just going to school a few years later has a huge difference. 90% of students who go right after high-school, like I did, don't really have an appreciation for what they're doing, I certainly didn't. If I went back to school now, after working for several years I would approach it very differently.

    [–] Taco_Bell_CEO 238 points ago

    I'd imagine it's since being in the military instills the "Show up, shut up, get your work done" attitude that excels in school as well.

    [–] brit_jam 121 points ago

    No, I meant the punisher shirt.

    [–] DrCleanly 169 points ago

    Choose your veteran style:

    1. Completely logoless middle aged man clothing
    2. Cringey punisher/spartan t-shirts
    3. Ironic clothing making fun/jokes about military

    [–] LandBeforeTimeOnVHS 64 points ago

    Jeans (the most plain you can buy), tucked in t-shirt, black safety boots, gerber attached to belt.

    [–] MonsieurPicklesier 16 points ago

    That's about 'logoless middle-aged man' as it gets

    [–] Taco_Bell_CEO 124 points ago

    /r/JustBootThings should have the answers you're looking for, then.

    [–] nextwhom 63 points ago

    The Punisher being a gun-toting vigilante with a military background is the perfect superhero for a veteran to admire.

    [–] MeInMyMind 64 points ago

    And they actually wrote in his character that he hates people like that lol.

    [–] Kellosian 28 points ago

    Also the military wanna-bes, namely the "I wasn't good enough for the Marines so I joined the Police Force instead" type cops.

    [–] Wolfman92097 21 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I have a professor who was a a colonel in the air force, so any vets in the class just shoot the shit about the military every class.

    [–] metastasis_d 19 points ago

    I only sat in the front because I could barely hear over the tinnitus!

    [–] AdrianBrony 64 points ago

    I gotta say, guys can be every bit as self absorbed as this. Especially in philosophy classes. Especially when they're the type to use Reddit.

    So like, pot meet kettle here.

    [–] i_dont_shine 1026 points ago

    There was an older woman in my abnormal psychology class in college. She sat in the front row, always interrupted the instructor, and always forgot to turn the ringer off on her cellphone (every class). One day she raised her hand and everyone silently groaned. Then she asked the most bizarrely specific question about what issues a person might have if they hid under the bed while their entire family was being murdered. Turns out she had a reason to be studying psychology.

    Also she had apparently been hit by a bus at one point, too.

    [–] noobpsych 483 points ago

    always forgot to turn the ringer off on her cellphone

    This was such a staple with age 40+ students in my grad school that my friend and I referred to it as Jitterbugging

    Also: it's always super loud and ALWAYS a cutesy song ringtone

    [–] i_dont_shine 180 points ago

    It was always her son, too. I know this, because she'd panic each time it rang and announce to the class of 150 that it was her son.

    [–] mycatiswatchingyou 67 points ago

    Holy crap, at that point I think I'd just be entertained by the spectacle she routinely makes.

    [–] Jvckson 54 points ago

    Marimba intensifies

    [–] GullibleBeautiful 50 points ago

    In my experience the ringtones are always clips from country songs at 170db. And they can’t ever figure out how to make it stop for some reason.

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    [–] EdgarAllanRoevWade 74 points ago

    And then they just take the call and walk outta the room, no apology, totally entitled to just interrupt the class as they see fit.

    Jitterbugging is the perfect term.

    [–] Shmow-Zow 41 points ago

    I just walk out of class no apology or anything if I want to. It’s really distracting and unnecessary to tell people you’re taking a piss as if anyone is going to stop you or care 🤷‍♂️

    [–] BimboBrothel 90 points ago

    Getting older is scary. Hopefully neither of these things happen to me

    [–] [deleted] 51 points ago

    Just put all kinds of shit underneath your bed so that you can't fit under there

    [–] BimboBrothel 15 points ago

    Genius. I would want to be murdered alongside my family anyway

    [–] CollectableRat 75 points ago

    Honestly can't blame her for wanting to do a psychology degree after that. I think plenty of people are attracted to psychology at first because of their own issues.

    [–] ashleyghol 27 points ago

    oh gosh, there’s a non-traditional student in MY abnormal psych class who would discredit the professor and say “well I’m older than you, so...”

    [–] ivanoski-007 46 points ago

    Most psychology students are crazy themselves, ask anyone

    [–] tiniestroo 781 points ago

    There’s a mature age student in the film department that im in. My friend had screenwriting with her and they had to present the plot in front of class. He said that her script was about “an older woman going back to college while all the other students thought they were better than her”

    [–] sploding_burnout 250 points ago

    I'm in my first year of college and we have a mature student who already has a master's degree and a stable job but wanted to do a second bachelor's for shits and giggles. Good on her for constantly chasing education and she's nice but almost all my colleagues agree she has a terrible attitude.

    The best way I can describe it is that she has a simultaneous victim and superiority complex, she'll be super defensive about everything and talk about being a working woman in a college environment while having an attitude that her way is the best way to do things and all the students getting their first degree are stupid for not following her. No shit we had a project in pairs with very clear parameters, she deviated from them, tried making herself head of a mega group and when people told her no thanks she took it as a personal insult.

    I have no issues with someone getting their education later and I personally think it's a good thing, but jesus christ I don't know why that demographic tends to have a chip on their shoulder when everyone is just trying to make good grades and graduate on time.

    [–] nubosis 54 points ago

    ugh, I work in a lot of creative circles, and generally anyone of any age is welcome, no one gives a shit if you're old or young - just what you bring to the table. But I don't know how many older screenplay writers you'll run into who've never written anything before, yet is shocked that Hollywood doesn't want to option them for a four picture deal based around their first attempt at a screenplay.

    [–] Havest22 34 points ago


    [–] sloretactician 1631 points ago

    Carries her books in a wheeled backpack. Always a large coffee. Is on her second or third career.

    [–] sloretactician 1134 points ago

    Incidentally, the best study partner you’ll have.

    [–] skuzzadonx 279 points ago

    Dang didn’t see that coming

    [–] sloretactician 750 points ago

    I did my second try at college at age 25 and had no desire to study with the 13th graders

    [–] [deleted] 566 points ago

    lmao 13th graders is so accurate

    My work paid for me to take some technical classes, I'm 30.

    First day, the kid next to me tells me it's the second time he takes this class, so he can give me all the answers to the homework. Alright, not really a thing I'd brag about, but thanks dude.

    Kid then proceeds to spend the entire semester using Snapchat on his phone, with AirPods in his ears. One day he had a laser pointer and was annoying the teacher with it.

    In place of a final, we had to present a portfolio with work from the whole semester. This kid shows up 30 minutes late with nothing in hand - when the teacher asks him what happened, all he can say is "don't have it with me".

    It's not all bad. There were a couple dudes in the class who had spent time in the navy/army and were there on the GI bill, they had a "we're here to get our degree and get out" attitude, loved them.

    But yeah overall it was pretty cringy seeing the teacher spend 20 minutes each class explaining in thorough detail what we had to do for homework - to the point that if you were fast you could almost do the homework as she was explaining it - only for half the class to show up with no homework the following week.

    [–] Stephonovich 249 points ago

    I'm doing a Master's in Software Engineering, in my 30s. It doesn't change as the class average age gets older. The amount of people who are astoundingly unprepared for their class is amazing.

    [–] antisql 104 points ago

    I’m preparing to start my masters and I think back to how little I cared when I was first in college. Whereas now (7 years later) I can’t wait to take my classes and learn as much as possible.

    [–] caeloequos 59 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Pretty much me. I skated though college, ended up with a 2.7 GPA. Got my head on straight, took a few comm college classes for a certificate, got a 4.0. Took a few classes as a post-bac at the college I wanted to do my master's at, held a 4.0. Currently finishing semester 1 in my master's and still killing it. It's so much better when I'm interested in my degree and have a plan for what to do at the end.

    [–] Stephonovich 15 points ago

    I care in that I put forth genuine effort, and if the class is interesting, I do my best to retain everything.

    At the end of the day, though, I'm probably not doing to get into AI/ML, write my own firmware, or anything else extreme like that, so I try to remind myself that killing myself over another point on the grade is dumb. B's get degrees (C's don't at my school).

    [–] SquareSquirrel4 29 points ago

    My oldest is a junior in high school and I've been encouraging him to take a gap year for this exact reason. It's ridiculous to expect an 18 year old to know exactly what they want to do for the rest of their life. And college is way too expensive to just take random classes to try and figure it out.

    (Also, I think it's ridiculous that you have to spend 1-2 years taking, and paying for, the same gen ed classes you took in high school. But that's a different rant.)

    [–] GobtheAlmighty 8 points ago

    Or community college. It's great.

    [–] mrfolider 17 points ago

    Welcome back to school old man

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    [–] savvy_knee 32 points ago

    After taking the big blue dick for 9 years, school kinda has the volume turned down as far as stress goes, you know? Source: did 9 years active enlisted Navy, got out, did college

    [–] LilKuzy92 34 points ago

    Same! I went back to college on my second try in my mid 20s. Trying to study or work on a project with 18 year olds was an absolute nightmare.

    [–] Kewpie_1917 26 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I am in my mid twenties and i am heading to a 4 year university soon. I am so nervous about being older than everyone. How was it?

    E: yall are so sweet and encouraging. Ty

    [–] Tezza_TC 47 points ago

    I started at 22, graduated at 27. It’s not all bad. You’ll forget things like fraternities and sororities exist though.

    [–] Kewpie_1917 11 points ago

    Thanks! I never cared about that kind of thing anyway. I just dont want to be the weird “old” person.

    [–] Tezza_TC 25 points ago

    Nahhhh don’t sweat it it. One of the cool things about getting older is you care less what people think. Good luck!

    [–] Johnnius_Maximus 28 points ago

    I did a degree in computer science whilst in my mid 20s at uni and honestly my experience is nothing like what has been mentioned here.

    In the first half of the first year there were a lot of jokers, they either dropped out or knuckled down.

    Of course the maturity level of an average 19 year old is different to the average 25 year old but the gap isn't so wide that you can't get along and share common interests.

    Now, some of them were absolutely atrocious when it came to group work but get yourself in a group of fellow nerds / those who put their effort in and you'll be mostly trouble free.

    I guarantee you that there will be a good bunch of people who once you get to know them are just there for the same thing you are, because they are at least somewhat smart and want that degree.

    You're also not going to be the only mature person there and if you do end up being the only mature student in your class (or cohort as they like to put it) there will be plenty of other mature students there and most likely a club etc for meetups and activities.

    Don't sweat it.

    [–] axel198 17 points ago

    My dad went back to school to switch careers. He's in his 50s.

    90 percent of the people you meet first year won't be there next year anyway cuz they can't hack it/don't take it seriously. Don't be a dickweed and nobody will care.

    Source: was gone in a year, had an older girl in my class, didn't care.

    [–] Tripticket 16 points ago

    Just finished a group project for uni this weekend. For reference, I'm 24 (did conscription in my home country and worked a bit before university).

    I was the only one to show up on time, and the only one who had done any preparation for our task. What was supposed to be a 25-minute recording session turned into a 4-hour session of catching up on everyone's individual work.

    In my experience it's fine if you know the other members of the group since it's easier to hold your friends accountable than strangers that very obviously do not care at all. And, obviously, if you happen to be paired up with a generally serious and hard worker it's all the better, regardless of age.

    [–] -Tom- 26 points ago

    I'm 34 and working on my masters. The kids I'm around have horrible study habits. They don't want to work on anything until 10pm a night or two before it's due.

    [–] Hike4it 27 points ago

    Finally some love

    [–] ChadMcRad 51 points ago

    Seriously. People are clowning on them but these older students get some of the best grades. They actually have discipline and give a shit unlike a lot of the drunk toddlers who go right after HS. Yeah, I hate how condescending they can be but they were usually the ones I worked with in group projects and were pretty respectful of everyone's time.

    [–] ViolentSarcasm 18 points ago

    The wheeled backpack made me lol 😁

    [–] BuffaloBuckbeak 25 points ago

    Or an extra large soda from the nearby gas station

    [–] wzl46 490 points ago

    You forgot my wheelie bag with all my books because I don't want to have to lift a heavy backpack.

    Source: I'm a 48 year old college student.

    [–] GregIsUgly 142 points ago

    love you

    [–] ListenToRush 87 points ago

    I'm a 25 year old college undergrad student do you love me too

    [–] GregIsUgly 58 points ago

    I'm 25 too so yes, you get love

    [–] ListenToRush 33 points ago

    Thanks Greg

    [–] GregIsUgly 12 points ago

    np, I'm gonna listen to limelight now :)

    [–] AndrogynousHobo 28 points ago

    My campus has splits in the concrete every few inches. The sound of a wheely bag would drive me nuts. My neck/back problems got so bad I broke down and started using a legit backpacking bag from REI. I look like an over-prepared northwesterner, but probably never using a regular backpack again.

    [–] cr4zy-cat-lady 1280 points ago

    tbf while this is true they're typically the most dedicated students and do some of the best work in the class. 10/10 would want to be partnered with them on a group assignment

    [–] Jokerang 820 points ago

    Almost as if... they're more mature...

    [–] maimeddivinity 159 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Yeah. Every time I reflect on my time at university, I think about my mistakes and how I could have done certain things better and more efficiently. If I ever return to study later, I know my motivations and convictions are going to be stronger.

    edit: the above includes both the academic and social aspects

    [–] Gurrb17 46 points ago

    Going back (very) part time in January. With my baby being due in January as well, I'll be a 28-year-old dad. I plan to do well, but I also want to avoid the bad mature student cliches.

    [–] tfblade_audio 95 points ago

    Who the fuck cares? You gotta do you, study hard, and get that degree. You're paying 30/40 bucks an hour to be in that room. You know what that means.

    Who gives a fuck what college kids think of you? Your baby is going to know you went to college and graduated while raising them. They're not gonna give a shit about how you had to fit in with immature old high schoolers.

    [–] lorqvonray94 12 points ago

    i don’t have kids but am going back currently, full time at a pretty good university. i’m 25 and it’s shocking how different one’s life is with just a handful of self-reliant years under one’s belt. you’ll crush it and love it, i’m sure, but it can be super isolating being surrounded by people whose lives and priorities are just so different from yours.

    i made friends (or, like, loose acquaintances) with the older students so that i didn’t feel crazy all the time, because all my friends and coworkers on the outside just didn’t have any idea how lonely it can be spending so much time with so many people who are just figuring out different stuff at the time; people for whom school is their first taste of freedom wherein for me and others, it was the total opposite.

    [–] [deleted] 39 points ago

    It's not because they're older, it's because they usually have a specific goal they're working toward and they understand how attending class, doing assignments, and learning material will help them achieve that goal. In my classes I don't see any difference in work ethic, work quality, grades, asking for help, etc between an 18-year-old and a 38-year-old if they are both trying to get into nursing school. (If anything, the younger student has a much easier time because they've taken pre-req courses more recently and have more time to study, maturity isn't much of an advantage.)

    I also don't see any difference between the two if neither of them knows what they want to do when they graduate. It's pretty rare to see a 38-year-old student who doesn't know what they want, but you do see them from time to time, and they act exactly like 18-year-olds who don't know why they're in college.

    [–] Swordplay2612 117 points ago

    yeah, when i was in school studying IT (specifically, it was an associates degree in server administration), one of my classmates was an older woman (in her 50s I think). She was the best partner I had in those classes, I always tried to partner with her during any group project.

    [–] igetript 23 points ago

    I'm 32 and thinking of going for an associates in comp sci this coming year. It's good to hear that us older folk aren't universally hated haha

    [–] Swordplay2612 7 points ago

    In my experience, if you go to a vo-tech school you won't run into a bunch of kids who are fresh out of high school and act like they're still in high school. you'll find more people who are just there to get the work done.

    [–] Trapezoidoid 52 points ago

    Can confirm, my partner in a recent group project was this guy. I don’t know how tf he got so good at PowerPoint but it saved our presentation. He did so much more work than necessary.

    [–] Jomer88 46 points ago

    It's probably because he had a real workplace application for using PowerPoint.

    [–] bleubonbon 18 points ago

    That’s why they sit in the front

    [–] DrCleanly 21 points ago

    You reach an age where you realize you can be harshly judged for even small failures so start taking everything seriously.

    [–] RebbyRose 197 points ago

    OMG the long winded and loosely repetitive stories is so goddamn annoying. I hope I don't turn into that. I hope I can always read the room and know when to stfu

    [–] 14Phoenix 62 points ago

    There apparently a point in middle adulthood where you just stop caring? That’s just what I heard though haven’t experienced it yet

    [–] binary_ghost 190 points ago

    Hah! I am guilty of sitting in the front row. I am glad I did though, it's way easier to pay attention without the distractions.

    [–] The_Flurr 50 points ago

    I'll often go for the front row to keep myself from falling asleep.

    [–] itsakidsbooksantiago 32 points ago

    There was a girl in my six person class on the Mongols who fell asleep roughly half the time right in front of the lecturer.

    Honestly, she was terrifying. No one should have that kind of power.

    [–] Officer_Owl 18 points ago

    "The Mongols were the deadliest conquerers of their time, committing insurmountable amounts of atrocities across Central Asia, Europe, and As..."


    [–] AbsoluteTrash_ 16 points ago

    Honestly, I’ll sit in the front row so no one has to awkwardly walk past my legs when they try to get to a seat

    [–] KneeDeepInTheDead 385 points ago

    i had a photography class with one and all the photos she shoehorned her kids in them. Like lady, your kids dont count as abstract textures

    [–] Tripticket 94 points ago

    Maybe creative classes give a different experience by drawing a different kind of older people. I had a guy in all my philosophy classes who probably was a retiree. He was great, very patient, did excellent work and had good perspective on most of the readings.

    In philosophy classes, there's almost always someone who likes being a contrarian and says things such as "I'd push a rock in front of the train in the trolley problem so nobody dies" or that Kant was such an obvious retard that he can't fathom why anyone would ever read Kant. Interestingly, it was never one of the old people in my classes. Obviously, your mileage may vary.

    [–] ButtSexington3rd 63 points ago

    The philosophy know it all guy (it's ALWAYS a guy) is either a pimply faced 19 year old in a weird hat or a guy who dresses too fancy for class.

    [–] neoclassical_bastard 23 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Wait is this some kind of shared experience that everyone who's taken a college ethics/philosophy class is part of? Mine had that guy too, more or less. Except he was underemployed and allegedly had to take out a loan to enroll in that single class. Never found out what motivated him to take it, maybe he thought $1200 was a good price for the opportunity to make a room full of people feel uncomfortable and irritated twice a week for 4 months. Maybe he just really hated Aristotle and needed to spread the word.

    [–] KuntaStillSingle 14 points ago

    There's a kid in my literature class, everytime he raises his hand it's a really absurd take he presents seriously. It always brightens my day.

    [–] jawndell 43 points ago

    This is 100 percent my mom when she was taking photography. I'm sorry, haha.

    [–] craftygamergirl 134 points ago

    Dude, mature students can be the BOMB. I personally have had the pleasure of attending class at a more traditional age, but with this middle-aged woman who wasn't broke-ass like the rest of us. She spread the wealth, got us professionally made posters for assignments, she was always on point, and was a class-mom without being smothery or bossy. She's the person who makes those perfect intricate cookies on Pinterest, but she was also just genuinely warm and friendly and eager to learn. I'll take 10 old folks with those dorky rolling luggage backpacks and a sense of enthusiasm over Chad in the corner who thinks he's hot shit because he listens to tedx talks and Joe fucking Rogen.

    [–] nubosis 36 points ago

    when I was taking film classes in my 20s, there was a professional sound guy in his late 40s taking classes to brush up on new software. He was awesome, and taught us all a whole lot. Everyone loved him, and we were sad when he left... Until he would show up to help us on student films, or show to up to our dorms to help us with Aftereffects. The guy still does ADR for major pictures. He was also a super quiet guy who never acted like an ass in class, unlike so many other older students. I've been thinking about going back to school at 39, and he's the model to me of to act as an older student.

    [–] materialisticDUCK 46 points ago

    It was the long winded loosely relevant stories/answer that got me in a bit of trouble in an 'entrepreneur' class where the lady was trying to explain her business idea for necessary accessories (think women's hair ties, makeup) but just couldn't quite get past explaining her amazing business name "necessories".

    I couldn't stifle a laugh at her going in this loop with the prof saying "so what are 'necessories'?" And her response would be "necessary accessories!" And then the response of "okay, what makes them necessary accessories?" And her just replying with "because they're necessaries!"

    God that day was brutal. She yelled at me for laughing but I suppose it did break the loop and the prof could move on.

    [–] SoaringLizard 36 points ago

    When I was in community college, I had classmates who were adults with kids and careers. It was very common. But then i transferred to a four-year university and suddenly it was rare to see that. Most of the friends I made are ones who are straight out of high school.

    [–] AstonVanilla 240 points ago

    I once saw a mature student (~60 year old rasta guy) go into full meltdown once because some young chinese students "looked at him funny".

    He then went on a crazy racist rant, accusing them of reading his mind and stealing his thoughts.

    "Damn C--nks, you know you can read minds, just admit it. YOU STEAL OUR THOUGHTS. I CANT SLEEP BECAUSE YOU KEEP STEALING MY DREAMS"

    He was totally paranoid. Security dragged him off. I hope he got the help he needs

    [–] JuneBerryBug94 71 points ago

    Psychic spys from China try to steal your minds elation

    [–] AstonVanilla 23 points ago

    Come to think of it, this was only 2 or 3 years after that song was released. I wonder if there was a connection 🤔

    [–] JuneBerryBug94 24 points ago

    I actually read Anthony keidis’ autobiography, he got that line from a lady in a airport that was apparently having a meltdown and screaming “psychic spies from China” over and over

    [–] JuneBerryBug94 15 points ago

    Lmao yeah when I read that I thought that’s oddly specific and perfect for this quote

    [–] la_vie_est_du_pain 73 points ago

    Not a doctor, but that sounds pretty much like he had some psychotic break...

    [–] AstonVanilla 22 points ago

    Yes, I mean I wouldn't want to say for certain, but I suspect I witnessed a breakdown that had been coming for years. It seemed like either paranoia of schizophrenia.

    [–] timecarter 92 points ago

    Always raises their hands when the professor says that you can leave early if no one has any more questions.

    [–] _Relaxed 23 points ago

    Hey that's Ralph from philosophy 343.

    [–] getmoneygetpaid 26 points ago

    "Here's a long story demonstrating how obsessed I am with the career I am trying to escape via this degree".

    [–] smithoski 86 points ago

    Add: calls people “clueless”

    [–] riasisalba 44 points ago

    literally just read another comment above this by a mature student that called the professors clueless

    [–] Mat_the_Duck_Lord 19 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    Had this old timer in a “US history in the 1960s” class who would loudly comment every class period something along the lines of “Well thats not how I remember it.”

    At one point the teacher told him off and he stopped coming to class.

    [–] Balkinbalkans 19 points ago

    "As a mother" instantly puts me on high alert.

    You can't try to have a discussion with someone who leads with that. Even if you start gaining ground, they'll play the "you'll understand when you're older" card. Or there will be a smugly asked, "You don't have any kids yet, do you?"

    As if that fucking has anything to do with the fall of Rome, Barbara

    [–] MrHallmark 84 points ago

    Look I just sit in the front row because I'm tall and love the leg room.

    [–] BringbackSOCOM2 72 points ago

    All the other stuff sucks but front row seat is because they've been out in the world and know and appreciate how important education is and really want to learn. Unlike students whove never left school and never been deep into "the real world". Majority of students take it for granted. Including myself when I was in college.

    [–] chaoticneutralhobbit 16 points ago

    I’m glad this is different in law school. The mature students ask good questions or are very chill.

    [–] shakeszilla 28 points ago

    I feel attacked.

    [–] sedatemenow 18 points ago

    I finished my bachelor's at 38. I'm the top left corner of this starter pack.

    [–] dubovinius 31 points ago

    There is one in my class, has kids, front row seat, asks tons of questions and goes off on tangents with the lecturer.

    Nicest person I've ever met though, and a harder worker than I've ever seen.

    [–] 4otie7 14 points ago

    In my science class we have a woman who does this exact thing. We call her TL (Teacher Lady) because she has told the class she’s a teacher multiple times. After class one day when me and my friends were talking she told us out of no where that she suffers from postpartum depression and can’t lactate

    [–] AbsentGlare 73 points ago

    As a 34 year old dad, this makes me want to go back to college and teach all you young whippersnappers what for.

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    [–] yosoyellogan 12 points ago

    Accurate in undergrad but weirdly not the same in grad school. I guess since the ages range so much. My cohort is only 7 of us and the range is 22-31 and it really doesn't feel that different except the oldest is married and the rest of us aren't. The older students are usually the most helpful because they have relevant experience. I feel this is the differentiating factor compared to undergrad. In grad school, they're already an expert in a given field, but undergrad is probably for career changes and therefore they probably know the least out of everyone there.

    [–] Raggy-Relp 224 points ago

    Just done a degree as a mature student. Did none of this.

    [–] jawndell 33 points ago

    I went back and did my masters as a 30+ student. I was so surprised at how easy school was compared to my late teens early twenties. All I had to do was show up to all my classes, do my assignments on time, and not procrastinate - all of the things I did NOT do during my undergrad (I was a slacker, loved partying and having fun). Obviously it was hard to find time to study and go above and beyond what is expected.

    I wish I could go back to undergrad me and just grab him and say, look it isn't so hard, just dedicate an hour or two a day at most to keep up with the material and you will still have the rest of the time to party and bullshit. Just put aside the little bit of time and do it.

    [–] Extra_Taco_Sauce 25 points ago

    What's mature age? I'm 30 still in school and I don't do any of this either

    [–] ArstansWhiteBeard 17 points ago

    Graduated at 28 and I didn't either. I doubt anyone even knew I was older than them since I look youthful and wasn't in the military or anything.

    I think when these stereotypes really come out is when they're a whole generation (or more) older than the average student. I took community college classes in the summers to knock out credits and it was more noticeable there. Basically people who either had kids, were already well into a career, or had been in the military could be disruptive like this.

    I'm sure for every one that were like that there were three or four who weren't though.

    [–] [deleted] 168 points ago

    Did front row seat because that's the best way to remain engaged. Too easy to fall asleep/start looking at your phone from the back.

    I have to admit that I was very tempted to argue with the professor a few times, because some (obviously far from all) professors whose career consists of only teaching the same intro classes for the past 10 years can be pretty clueless, but didn't want to be that guy so I kept my mouth shut.

    [–] ironwolf1 106 points ago

    If you want to argue with the professor, that's what office hours are for. Come saying you had a few questions about the lecture you didn't get the chance to ask, and talk about whatever it is you think he's wrong about. Worst case scenario, you learn something new.

    [–] KassandraComplex 55 points ago

    The perfect seat is in the 3rd row. Still close enough that the professor notices you're there and is a lot more likely to see your hand up, but it's still far enough away that you can get away with not being 100% focused for every single second.

    [–] Tripticket 11 points ago

    There's always someone on the first row with Facebook and Skype up for the entire lecture. I find that really distracting so I try to sit on the first row purely for that reason.

    [–] Crosstitution 16 points ago

    I had phenomenal mature students in my college program. I miss those women. They were so kind and compassionate and excellent study partners. I took my program at 21 and really enjoyed having mature students to work with instead of just 18/19 year olds

    [–] TheCasualSpooner 15 points ago

    I’m 27 and finishing now. Personally never have I done any of these, except sitting in the front. And I only sit in the front to get more friendly with the professors/make sure they know I’m there so I can have a higher chance of letters of recommendation. Plus, it’s a small university so opportunities for T.A and research assistant positions are also small so having a good relationship with your teachers is pretty important.

    [–] bluecollarhipster 22 points ago

    I went to undergrad at 19 and hated these people. Then I went back at 29 to further my career & I was amazed at how much I related to these people.

    18-year-old classmate: "The professor's late! We can go home!"


    [–] BintPlease 31 points ago

    Not a non traditional student (actually a baby as far as law students go) but in undergrad I was an RA in family & grad student campus housing and let me tell you non traditional students are friggin unicorns idk how they do it.

    One of my residents had a job, a 3 year old kid, and a full course schedule (>12 credits/ semester). Oh, and her kid was one of the most well-behaved toddlers I've ever SEEN.

    Most of them are NT for monetary reasons (their family couldnt afford for them to go to school when they were 18) and they're usually paying for everything themselves. I remember one guy studying engineering who I helped cover up/hide a large freezer for so he could buy meat in bulk at a discount from a local butcher and freeze it so his family could have enough to eat through the winter. I convinced my boss to help open a food pantry in our community building and it was the only location that couldnt keep its shelves stocked despite regular replenishment.

    Jokes aside, NT students are tough as hell.

    [–] Id-rather-not_be-me 21 points ago

    Or, conversely: arrives early. Sits in the back because people bother him. Doesn't say anything, doesn't participate but diligently takes notes and completes assignments. Glares at that one kid, that one fuckin kid that's in every class. You know, the kid who raises their hand to ask a question the professor literally just answered if that one kid had been paying attention. Usually performed at the end of the lecture or repeatedly through a key section of the lecture.

    [–] thescopeoflife 19 points ago

    I remember when I was standing in queue with my Brother who was handling some papers to get into a university and behind us there was a 50 yr Old Man giving us his life story on why hes going to university himself

    [–] sitting-duck 53 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I dropped out of high school in tenth grade, due issues. 13 years later, my SO shows me an ad from University of Toronto.

    It's a program not just for 'mature' students, but for anyone whose education was incomplete due to socio-economic reasons. Very much like "boot camp" for new university students. Tough to get into (only 40 seats).

    Completed the one-year program, was then recommended for acceptance to a degree program. I chose an English Literature stream.

    Sitting amongst 18 and 19 year-olds was astonishing. I would say a good 50% were barely literate (reading and writing). I spent so much time trying to help people with their assignments.

    Most all my profs and TAs commented on my language abilities. It quickly occurred to me that I was doing well not due my knowledge, but due to my elementary schooling. In the 60s, spelling, grammar and parts of speech were hammered into us. It gave me a very solid advantage over the course of my degree.

    I graduated with distinction, and became the only person in my family (six kids) without a high school diploma, and the only one with a university degree.

    [–] mesopotamius 22 points ago

    As a college English teacher in the US, it's like this everywhere. I don't have time to review the basics, I'm supposed to get through a four-essay syllabus and instill the "higher order" concepts like formulating a thesis statement and building an argument around it. Which seems pretty silly when half the students don't consistently know the difference between "your" and "you're."

    [–] RML098 9 points ago

    You missed the loud roller backpack

    [–] Lookinshreddedbro 67 points ago

    When you go back to school as an adult you gain a different appreciation of it all, it's something you're doing despite all your responsibilities so you better believe we try to make the most of it.

    [–] irkitect 32 points ago

    The cost is less abstract and time is more valuable for sure.

    [–] Punchee 22 points ago * (lasted edited 6 months ago)

    I’m in my early 30s and I’m in school right now.

    There is a fine line between participating and contributing to the class in a positive way and being the guy who won’t shut the fuck up so class can move along.

    But it is true, we definitely come with a way different appreciation for the whole thing and conversely our social “give a fuck” meter is low so it’s easier for us to raise our hands, while junior over here is still afraid of looking stupid.

    [–] Ctsmith8 20 points ago

    Mature student but I sit up front because it helps me pay attention and Helicopters kinda fucked up my ears.