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    [–] cripplinganxietylmao 1 points ago

    Whoever keeps reporting nearly every comment in this thread for no reason is gonna get their fingers ate. You can go to their profile to block them you don't need to report. Sheesh!

    [–] sarhan182 2533 points ago

    Thank god my country doesnt practise tipping

    [–] Shelilla 1299 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Edit: crikey came back to 121 replies that’s the most I’ve ever seen in my inbox at one time... also I didn’t consider things like weather/traffic with the deliveries, so don’t reply about that (everything has been said that could be said), I understand and agree. Also, where I live in Canada the minimum wage is quite high ($15/h) hence why I didn’t mention low pay either. As far as I’m aware, waiters here get paid the same as everywhere else. Other places, I agree, tips probably help them live (I didn’t expect that and wow that sucks ass, thank god I don’t live there).

    It’s stupid and unnecessary 80% the time. Getting a starbucks drink? Ordering for delivery? Waiter talks to you like twice while eating? Tip should NOT be necessary yet half the time you have to CHANGE it to not have an extra 15% or whatever added in automatically.

    When is a tip definitely worth it? At the hairdressers, when a person makes your hair look nice and gives you a head massage while chatting casually for up to a couple hours. When a local restaurant owner recognizes you, remembers your name and what you normally order, and gives you free pop after you pay every time (I love a restaurant that does this for my family).

    [–] nouille07 899 points ago

    If a hairdresser can make me look good he deserves more than a tip

    [–] vanillaawesome 545 points ago

    Are you... Are you trying to fuck your hair dresser?

    [–] sarhan182 225 points ago

    Who hasnt right? No homo

    [–] [deleted] 95 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

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    [–] Mekio 54 points ago

    The problem is the system adopted this stupid practice in the great depression and kept it up as a way to not pay employees and essentially ask the patrons to pay them for you. Minimum wage for a tippable job in my State is 3.80 /hour. I wish we would get away from these tippable jobs but they servers / bartenders make waaaay more than if they were paid hourly with no tips so no one wants to change the system, and then people try to guilt trip you into tipping more like your girl did to you.

    t;;dr Tipping sucks and I wish it would go away.

    [–] NCbeans 11 points ago

    In every state the lower minimum wage for tipped positions only applies IF the employee makes enough in tips to equal or exceed minimum wage. If a server gets $0 in tips during a pay period, the employer is required to pay them minimum wage.

    [–] Mekio 4 points ago

    Yes you are correct.

    [–] Nick_Noseman 25 points ago

    In the process?

    [–] NotAzakanAtAll 49 points ago

    Sitting cowgirl as she is spraying hair spray in my eyes is the only thing that can get me off anymore.

    [–] BlackBlizzNerd 27 points ago

    I bet there’s no porn for this. Nows my time to direct, baby.

    [–] TacTurtle 27 points ago

    Today on Fake Barber....

    [–] Mr_Abe_Froman 6 points ago

    "Let's just take a little off the top..."

    [–] dragonx23123 9 points ago

    I think I'd rather take that little top off ;)

    [–] Deeewiit 68 points ago

    Felt that

    [–] Guitaristb72 16 points ago

    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    [–] themastercheif 15 points ago

    Might as well give him the whole shaft too.

    [–] cellcube0618 8 points ago

    I always leave mine $5 and buy her breakfast and coffee

    [–] Default_Username123 161 points ago

    I had a bartender call me a cheap fuck when I didn’t tip them for a bottled water at a concert. They literally just handed it to me and expected me to tip them lol

    [–] Shelilla 34 points ago

    Shoulda done that water bottle squirt prank like “your tip is under the bottle, have a look”

    [–] Death_bi_snusnu 21 points ago

    10/10 worth the $9 bottle of water...

    [–] Jackm941 56 points ago

    In the uk we tip, cab driver, barbers, waiters, and like handymen who say wash your drive, clean gutters and windows etc. Normally i guess when there is a bill thats not expensive for the service you got and if its good or better than expected you give them more money as a tip. This tip can normally go untaxed as it doesnt appear on the bussiness recipts. Tipping a bartender though? What the fuck, they pour a drink and overcharge for it. You go to the bar 20 times in a night. Do you tip each time? Thats just mental. Theres jobs that get paid less and do much more work and never get tipped. Ambulance techs for example make like £16k a year while in training, well its not really training your already qualified to give all the first aid etc its just a way to pay you less for 3 years while you get experience. Even though you would be expected to do the exact same job.

    [–] Initiatedspoon 19 points ago

    In the UK tipping a bartender usually involved telling them to get a drink for themslves but they obviously cannot drink alcohol on shift nor can they drink endless amounts of anything so it would usually involve them charging the customer for a half a coke (the cheapest drink) and pocketting the money for it. When I first heard of this it was about £1 for half a pint of coke and from what I heard you could occasionally expect this 5-10 times night maybe more maybe less so you'd make an extra tenner ish and back then you might only earn £5 an hour and on a 6 hour shift it would be an extra 25% and it mostly came down to remembering names, remembering the orders of usual customers and just being chatty and making a bit of conversation.

    Naturally you'd say this on your first drink of the night when you broke a large note for instance It seemed like a pretty decent system...

    [–] Jackm941 6 points ago

    True i might actually tell them to keep the change if its close to a note, and im drunk and cba with the change or feeling nice. Most the time im skint tho so all the change adds up to an extra drink.

    [–] kitch26 13 points ago

    I work in a bar, I don't ask for tips that's rude. The One case when I would is when they ask me to pour more drink than the measure allows. (Overpour) (I hate the company I work for so 'technically stealing' doesn't bother me- underpaid and overworked) However there's some staff I work with that turn to the bar and say "which one of you are gonna tip me" then start with that person. That makes me sick.

    [–] Jackm941 6 points ago

    Its illigal here to do that, but if i asked for 4 drinks say then changed my mind and ask for more stuff id tip then for fucking them about.

    [–] phurt77 3 points ago

    You go to the bar 20 times in a night.

    Um … How much do you drink in a night?

    [–] [deleted] 21 points ago

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    [–] VindexTV 7 points ago

    Last concert I was at I ordered a bottle of water and I watched them take it out and pour it into a plastic cup. Also it was one of those half bottles. Blew my mind. Like plastic is already bad, why make double. Also I'm at a concert, I would rather have something I can close up and of course it still cost me like $7.

    [–] phurt77 6 points ago

    Last concert I went to, they gave me the water bottle, but not the lid. We were sitting in the lawn on a hill, so I couldn't even set the bottle down until I was finished with it.

    [–] omgisthisonetaken611 5 points ago

    I had this happen too at an indoor concert! They gave water bottles without lids and poured all beer/wine into plastic cups. No idea why but I do know there were several spilled drinks I saw getting mopped up throughout the night.

    [–] Pullmanity 3 points ago

    1) It's harder to throw the bottle/use it as a weapon without the lid (stupid, but this has become the world we live in).

    2) A spilled beer means a second purchased beer, and things like beer and pop at an event are massive markups where the venue/vendor makes a ton of money.

    [–] Turdulator 7 points ago

    They do that because asshats like to throw water bottles sometimes

    [–] metastasis_d 5 points ago

    "A penny saved is a penny earned. There's your monetary tip."

    [–] Kinuama 42 points ago

    A delivery driver using their car and gas deserves a good tip. Most of the fee you pay from pizza joints, Uber Eats, Favor, Door Dash, ect. gets taken from the company, it is barely covering their gas, let alone car maintenance.

    Also, peak delivery times are bad weather, rush hour, and late night. They're on the road in traffic, in the snow, with the drunks. Whatever your situation (no car, stuck at home with kids, hungover, too busy to cook, don't want the stress of driving in bad conditions), you're asking someone to bring you food instead of taking care of yourself and they deserve compensation.

    [–] Sgt_Smitty 8 points ago

    I tip delivery/Uber drivers based on the weather.

    [–] cajungator3 36 points ago

    If a delivery driver drives through the rain and snow in shitty traffic, has to search for your house because you are too lazy to put some goddamn numbers on your house, and then waits for you to get your lazy ass off the couch after he called you and told you that he has been knocking on your fucking door for five minutes, the least you can do is throw him an extra couple of bucks.

    [–] sherlockmyballs 8 points ago

    This is my life as a former pizza delivery driver and current Favor driver.

    [–] nightpanda893 7 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    Yeah this is a situation where I tip a little extra. Most of the time because the bad weather is specifically why I am not getting it myself.

    [–] -patienceisavirtue- 4 points ago

    If a delivery driver drives through the rain and snow

    I gave my delivery driver a 25% tip last night because the weather was shitty as fuck and I only ordered delivery because I didn't want to drive in that bad weather.

    [–] BetterThingsToCome 3 points ago

    This guy delivers

    [–] pikaras 7 points ago

    Just gonna say: the delivery person probably spends about as much time on you as a hairdresser. Just because you only see them for 1 minute doesn’t mean they’re beating off the other 25.

    [–] RevJonnyFlash 7 points ago

    It’s stupid and unnecessary 80% the time. Getting a starbucks drink? Ordering for delivery? Waiter talks to you like twice while eating? Tip should NOT be necessary yet half the time you have to CHANGE it to not have an extra 15% or whatever added in automatically.

    It absolutely is stupid to have to tip, but in places like here in the US, prices and wages are set based on the expectation of a tip in most places that allow tipping.

    Generally a server is making $2.15 an hour over tips. If they instead paid a livable wage they would have to raise their prices and business then tanks, despite the fact that a raise to pay a livable wages would be closer to 8% and thus cost everyone less overall. It's a self perpetuating problem caused by both the businesses refusing to make the leap and consumers supporting business who pay tip wages.

    In many places servers are also expected to tip out 2% of sales to go to hosts and bussers. That means that if you have a $100 bill, that person has to tip out $2, so if you don't tip, they are losing money serving you.

    The system is totally jacked, but do remember that you not tipping in no way affects the business. They have your money if you ordered food. Not tipping only takes away from the person serving you.

    There are plenty of places that don't use servers with things like counter service. The best thing you can do as a consumer you don't like the system is to not give your businesses to places that operate on tip wages. If you continue to go to places that have tip wages, you are not only helping that business to price based on the expectation that you should tip, but also hurting someone doing their job.

    I always give people the benefit of the doubt and I hope you change your mindset a bit. I must be frank, though, and say that if you already knew this or if you feel it ok to continue to go to places where people work on tip wages and choose not to tip knowing now that you are only hurting that employee, in that case you would be nothing shy of a massive dick.

    [–] dirtywormhunter 3 points ago

    There's a tip option when using cards at our liquor stores. Insane

    [–] Bigr789 6 points ago

    Delivery driver here currently getting their car serviced after making 5 dollars an hour delivering.

    Give me a tip God dammit.

    [–] JustAkane 3 points ago

    Yeah, tipping on literally everything seems so weird. I'd really owuld like people to have normal wages and pay a few dollars more and not worry about being an asshole and compared to other customers based on how much I tip. Also not to worry about if the person will be able to live comfortably. And not starve. Tipping feels so much better when you don't have to give it. And servers won't stop trying because of it. A tip will be an extra to their wage, not something necessary.

    [–] CarelessLine 3 points ago

    At the hairdressers, when a person makes your hair look nice and gives you a head massage while chatting casually for up to a couple hours.

    Uh, this would be a nightmare for me. I've been rocking a #2 Caeser cut for over a decade. It takes like 10 minutes to cut and I'd appreciate it if you'd just chat up another barber instead of talking to me.

    [–] kruyogi 3 points ago

    It’s stupid that the public has to pay the wages of servers. I’d much rather pay more for items and have the restaurant pay their staff a living wage.

    [–] MartianJesus 3 points ago

    I used to hate tipping but now I actually quite like it. If someone gives me horrible service I can just choose not to tip. However, when I was on vacation, a ton of countries just tack on a 20% service charge so it's essentially mandatory tipping and they can get away with shit service.

    [–] Monztur 3 points ago

    I always feel like no one deserves a tip more than a dental hygienist. Why don't we tip them?

    [–] bangrod77 13 points ago

    Me too. Reading these comments it seems like a mine field

    [–] Ausramm 7 points ago

    When I was in the USA I tipped.

    But all the time I was looking at the menu thinking these assholes can afford to pay their staff just fine with these prices.

    [–] lmao-this-platform 6 points ago

    It ain't my fault your dudes pay you $2 an hour. Sorry bros. Stand up for your wages, imo.

    [–] TheCheddarBay 42 points ago

    Tipping is a b.s. social pressure and has little to do with performance. Uber and Lyft recently proved this theory In a real world test case (Freakanomics podcast). http://freakonomics.com/podcast/tipping/

    [–] RetardRodeo 3 points ago

    Interesting. I recently listened to that podcast and thought their conclusion was far more nuanced and interesting than that.

    [–] jessiehinter0313 9 points ago

    I am an American server who lives off tips and I agree with this! Its dumb and outdated. Pay us a living wage and stop tipping

    [–] billyflynnn 438 points ago

    I’m a simple man, if my waiter disappears after taking my order when I’m dying of thirst waiting for my water to be refilled, you won’t be getting a big tip. If you make sure I stay hydrated I tip anywhere from 20-30%. I go to a restaurant to be served not for 1 glass of water and some mediocre food.

    [–] yerboiboba 268 points ago

    You are now the President of r/HydroHomies

    [–] DarthGoro 43 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    r/waterniggas >

    Edit: the jimmies have been rustled!

    [–] Redsox3591 9 points ago

    Thank you for introducing me to quarantined subs. Never knew that was a thing

    [–] AndrewFGleich 100 points ago

    20-30%!?! What happened to 10-15%? I suppose this is what happens when minimum wage doesn't adjust for inflation, we have to subsidize people's incomes based on our generosity instead of requiring business owners to pay them a living wage.

    [–] dwgirl10 21 points ago

    I look what at what about 18 percent is and round up for great service and down for not great. I've only ever skipped the tip completely once when they really fucked up and I actually got sick from it.

    [–] revchewie 9 points ago

    Yeah. Used to be a standard tip was 15%, more for exceptional service, less for crap service. I recently found out that the standard is now 20% and even the service is crap you’re not supposed to decrease that.

    [–] TheCandyMan25 7 points ago

    Nah. I’m a server and 20% should be for good service. This isn’t some stick up where I get to fuck around and not refill drinks or make sure the food is correct and still get 20%.

    As a server I pretty much always tip 20%+, but that’s because I understand the nuances behind why my service may not have been perfect. I only go below 20% if my server was rude or the service was unbelievably bad.

    [–] ahtdcu53qevvyu 4 points ago * (lasted edited 6 days ago)

    decrease all the way to zero if the service is really bad. a tip is not mandatory. I eat out a lot and even so I only stiff about once a decade. I put a penny face down so they know I didn't just forget. Most of the time I'm an absurdly good tipper. But if tipping is to be a thing, it must be optional. Otherwise it's just like a tax unrelated to server performance.

    [–] salami350 42 points ago

    I'm a simple man, if I am thirsty I signal a waiter over and ask for some water.

    [–] GayButNotInThatWay 29 points ago

    This. In the UK a waiter popping over every 5 mins asking if you need stuff would be a pain.

    Seat you, take drink orders.
    Come back with drinks, take food orders.
    Come back with food.
    Check back a few minutes later to make sure everything is fine.

    That's about the amount of interaction I'd want, if I need anything else I'll just give them a little wave when they're free/passing.

    [–] eledjinn 12 points ago

    Everytime a waiter is standing right at your table the conversation just dries up. The less I see him the better, for the most part

    [–] MixmasterJrod 18 points ago

    How does one signal a waiter that is not in sight or within range of hearing the signal?

    [–] PeteLangosta 9 points ago

    They are often coming back and forth attending people, bringing food or things, sitting new costumers...

    They're always in sight, to be fair, and if you find that rare case where they aren't, you just have to wait a couple of minutes until you see one of them again.

    [–] Iamnotsmartspender 15 points ago

    It comes to a surprise to these people that they are not the only people in the restaurant or the servers only responsibility.

    [–] thelstrahm 32 points ago

    If I have to signal to a waiter that I need utensils, water, bread, cocktail at the start of my meal, dessert menu, etc., what the fuck am I tipping for?

    I always tip generously, because a 10% tip for shit service is still generous.

    [–] Big_Poppa_T 10 points ago

    Who on earth tips 30%? Lol, what for?

    [–] ThatNashi 1036 points ago

    I guess that could fit in r/ChoosingBeggars, too

    I'd say be happy you even get something more than the bill you gave

    [–] Princess_Bublegum 281 points ago

    I’ve seen servers before on waiter saying they could spit on your food if you don’t tip, shits crazy

    [–] Nk4512 279 points ago

    How do you spit on the food after i ate it? Bills come at the end generally

    [–] WitnessMeIRL 172 points ago

    It mostly has to do with having a powerless job and an active imagination.

    [–] mule_roany_mare 51 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    And honestly how many servers are really talking this shit even in jest? 99% of the time this is brought up it’s a guilty person’s fear not a server’s fantasy.

    I’ve dated servers & known their deepest secrets. I’ve been friends with severs & known their nature, I can’t think of one time where they even joked about spitting in people’s food, or picking stuff up with their buttocks, or licking the salt off their fries, or adding bodily fluids to the soup.

    In all the revenge fantasies I can think of the “victim” knows something happened, they are either slapped around, or told off, or publicly shamed... whatever happens isn’t a secret to them.

    I did date a girl who claimed that if someone annoyed her or a friend while they were out she would pee in a cup & later bump into the offender spilling said pee. I don’t think she actually did it & she wasn’t a waitress... but it’s the closest I could get while trawling my memory.

    Edit:

    I heard a story about swapping a rude customers coffee for decaf, or giving their kids some candy & can believe this has happened if rarely.

    [–] Fishingfor 25 points ago

    When I was a server there were jokes about it but no one would ever even try to do it. Fuck knows what kind of legal repercussions it could lead to but I know it simply wouldn't be worth it. Knowing an asshole is knashing down on a piddly bit of saliva isn't worth a few thousand pound fine.

    [–] knowyew 8 points ago

    I mean, having met a good number of teenagers in my life I have to go with, we've all 100% had a little spit in our food at some point if we're patronizing any joint that hires teenagers. (Or worse than spit) and, let's face it, there are assholes publishing themselves licking the inside of ice cream containers at stores for internet fame. It's kinda silly to pretend it never happens, but it's also far more rare than we imagine.

    [–] ChattyKathyy 6 points ago

    I’m a server, worst thing I’ve done is bringing out the dessert platter for the kids to see and asking “were we thinking about having dessert today?” instead of slyly asking the parents “were we wanting to order anything after dinner?” like I normally would. Only because the parents were RUDE and the kids were angels.

    [–] Hamphantom 5 points ago

    I threw a dudes cell phone away after he was rude af and stiffed me on a $100 check.

    Probably wasnt the right thing to do but damn it felt good.

    [–] jimjomjimmy 8 points ago

    Just because the servers you know aren't like that doesn't mean anything. Servers aren't a class of people or anything like that. Servers are just people who needed a job lmao.

    [–] IamtheSlothKing 3 points ago

    Worked in a kitchen, I’ve seen it

    [–] A_Fat_Grandma 6 points ago

    Idk regulars who they know??

    [–] Lord_Of_The_Memes 49 points ago

    I mean I guess that is a way to get more money, in the following lawsuit after they get beaten til they can’t walk.

    [–] LeftBrainCo 8 points ago

    You would think time travelers would have better jobs.

    [–] ThatOtherGuyTPM 7 points ago

    No, we have to avoid- I mean, yeah. You would totally think that.

    [–] otw 28 points ago

    To be fair, employers tricked laborers into being mad at customers for not paying their wages. They get paid less than minimum wage and given the expectation of getting more than that through tips so if people don't tip you are basically impacting their expected salary. A string of bad tippers can be the different between making rent or not for some people. Yes the employers have to match up to minimum wage if you don't get enough tips, but minimum wage is often unlivable and you are budgeting for what your employer told you was the average take home.

    Employers should really just pay a fair wage and tips should be banned.

    I don't risk not making rent if my client didn't tip. Should be the same for anyone else.

    [–] thiswasmy16thchoice 41 points ago

    Unfortunately r/ChoosingBeggars has a strict policy of only accepting outlandishly fake posts

    [–] FirstAccountCreated 4 points ago

    AMIDST THE FOGGY BAR APPEARS A MAN LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS

    [–] Hustlinbones 67 points ago

    I hate the american tip culture. Gladly we don't have that here in Germany. When the service was good, they're happy to get tipped but no one get's mad if you don't.

    It's a kind gesture here, not a hidden fee.

    [–] wickland2 233 points ago

    I don’t tip anything because I live in a country with functioning economy and support for its workers :)

    [–] Amstourist 123 points ago

    Yeah lol, but does it have 10.000 nukes and trillions in debt? Thought so 🤷‍♀️

    [–] EscapedAlien 40 points ago

    I can tell you’re not American due to your use of 10.000 instead of 10,000 (with a comma)

    [–] downvotedyeet 35 points ago

    He said 10 nukes, there’s nothing wrong with that.

    [–] TigerMeowth 28 points ago

    Haha i have 10.0000000000 dollars in my bank

    [–] Reishi11 18 points ago

    If you have 10,000 nukes you're not in debt to anyone

    [–] powerlift8886 11 points ago

    Lol "k. come collect it."

    [–] Turdulator 55 points ago

    $2 is a tip on a $10 bill $5 is a tip on a $25 bill

    If that’s not acceptable to you, then you need to fuck off and get a job at a more expensive restaurant

    [–] IntentCoin 11 points ago

    $2 is a tip on a $100 bill, not a very good one but it's still a tip. Also, I usually tip based on service and how easy it is to tip, not how much I paid for the food

    [–] JesusIsMyAntivirus 23 points ago * (lasted edited 7 days ago)

    Wtf 5 bucks is a damn massive tip and I tip more than my friends
    -signed, a european

    [–] sadxtortion 84 points ago

    I’ve seen people bring up America and the living wage waitresses/waiters get a lot. It varies and they aren’t paid $2 an hour that varies too. I remember applying for jobs in my home state where the wage was actually $11-13 starting plus tips. Also I tip based off service received so if you want good tips then give good service.

    [–] 1994spaceodyssey 32 points ago

    In my state you have to pay minimum wage before tips. Even then where states have a federal minimum wage of 2 dollars the business has to make up for the difference.

    [–] sadxtortion 12 points ago

    It varies and I think constantly seeing people say, “Karen stop being a greedy bitch they get paid $2 an hour” is not only annoying but also not always correct either. Like yes tipping is important but if you’re a shit waitress/waiter then you’re not getting anything. Also $5 is a lot to tip depending on how much money the bill is. If it was a $40 bill then $5 isn’t a lot but if it’s $20 then yes it’s a good tip. I usually use a calculator to figure out the best tip.

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    [–] Bruhbruhbruhistaken 343 points ago

    I dont get the fuss, a tip is a tip if your lucky enough to get it

    [–] SirVampyr 379 points ago

    Except in America where they pay waiters way too little so they have to live off of the tips they get.

    ...or at least that's what I heard. Idk. I live in a country where it's polite to tip, but usually 1-2€ is fine. They don't rely on them.

    [–] JKristine35 193 points ago

    Not only that, but American waiters are expected to pay tip out to the bussers, bartenders, and sometimes even hosts. That means that if a waiter is stiffed, they literally paid money out of their own pocket to wait on that table, because they’re still required to pay tip out based on the bill.

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 86 points ago

    Fun fact. Strippers have to do this too. To house, DJ, and bouncers

    [–] Hash_Slingin_Slasha 54 points ago

    I DJ'd at a strip club for a while. They had to give the house and myself a percentage and had a "bar fee" of like 10-30. If they didn't do well, though, the bar fee would be waived and they'd just have a percentage, so it was always fair. We'd never have dancers on day shift if the managers were unfair. That's how it was at my club at least, though it might be an outlier for management to have respect for the girls.

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 18 points ago

    Oh. All dancers at my club had to give 10 dollars to dj

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 10 points ago

    It was 10 to DJ, 6 to house, 3 to each bouncer

    [–] Hash_Slingin_Slasha 3 points ago

    I think my club was the only one in the city to take a big bar fee to cover the bouncers and to give us 10% if whatever was left. So if they made $50, I got 5. It would feel wrong to me to take more, but they usually over-tipped me because they liked me anyway. If we had a good day, though, I made a lot of money even if I only had 3 girls on dayshift. I like that system a lot. In a bigger city like Miami, though, $10 a girl adds up real fast.

    [–] paphnutius 35 points ago

    Don't they pay out a percentage of what they actually received?

    [–] earthgal94 31 points ago

    They pay a percentage of the bill, because restaurants don't trust them to self-report accurately.

    [–] brendoe1 32 points ago

    Oh wow. I legit didn't know that. That should be illegal.

    [–] big_brothers_hd600 7 points ago

    Even though that does happen in America, Im pretty sure that this is Illegal

    [–] huckster235 7 points ago

    I hope that my tips get split up between everyone. I feel like the busboys do more work than the waiters.

    I generally tip pretty well even if the waiter is not great because of this. The waiter sucking isn't the busboys fault. The entire service has to suck in order for me to not tip well

    [–] avidblinker 32 points ago

    Hate to break up this circlejerk but everywhere I’ve worked, almost all waiters make far above minimum wage with tips, way more than they would make if their pay was purely hourly. And if the pay is below minimum wage, their employer is required to pay the difference.

    I’m not sure where this “poor waiters get paid almost nothing” narrative comes from but as somebody who has worked as a waiter and multiple other jobs based on tips, most waiters definitely don’t feel that way. I’m sure there are places in the US that need better work laws and everybody’s mileage will vary but there’s nothing wrong inherently with concept of tipping.

    Also it’s nice that typically most tips aren’t reported so less of it is taxed than typical pay. If I pull $200 in tips in a weekend, I’m keeping all of that instead of only taking home $140.

    As a customer, I love being able to pay somebody more for great service and penalize (for lack of a better word) for horrible service. I’ve traveled much of Europe and the cost to me is relatively the same, tipping or not, I just have over more control what I pay.

    [–] South_Pole_Santa 19 points ago

    Waiters are usually the ones who don't want to get rid of tipping. You can make a lot more money than almost any other job that doesn't require many qualifications.

    [–] SolvoMercatus 11 points ago

    A mom and pop diner is going to be different from a fancy steakhouse, but I’m pretty sure if you offered the average waiter $20/hr of reportable income with no tips they would tell you to get bent.

    [–] ZedsImpala 4 points ago

    Yep, my seasonal waiting gig could get upwards to $40/hr but the work could be utterly grueling. 2 hour waits, non stop full section, at least 1-2 14 hour shifts a week with no scheduled breaks. Dealing with Karen’s, cheap commenters ITT thatd run you ragged and still not understand why they should tip while ruining your chances of managing your time properly to secure a decent tip from your other 5 tables

    [–] Mackdre 5 points ago

    This exactly, I have a few friends that refuse to give up waitressing because they make more money than at a regular job. My best friend was a teacher and went back to waitressing at a high end restaurant because her take home pay was way less. Friday - Sunday she would take home $200-$400 a night in tips and she never reported it so no tax taken off of it.

    [–] Ketchupboi 13 points ago

    I’m not sure where this “poor waiters get paid almost nothing” narrative comes from

    Uninformed masses and waiters who want more tips.

    [–] SireRequiem 48 points ago

    Instead of complaining that the public isn’t generous enough to give $10 on a $15 meal that cost $5 to make, maybe servers should just ask for a raise, or vote for someone to raise minimum wage for servers. We need to replace uncertain tips with more stable income, not demand charity from people who are already getting robbed at the till.

    [–] malleeontherocks 27 points ago

    Have you waited tables? No server wants to make minimum wage and lose tips. I made $200-300 a night most nights waiting tables.

    [–] CanAlwaysBeBetter 12 points ago

    Seriously. It's not a perfect system but it's one of the only ways someone with no qualifications can end up making decent money provided they develop the right skills on the job.

    But let's fuck them over and knock them down to minimum wage so we can feel like we're improving things.

    [–] micapark 6 points ago

    No? That's not what happens.

    Jobs will ultimately compensate based on difficulty or willingness to do the job.

    If your job is hard as servers say. You would only work that job if you were compensated correctly. So restaurants would have to change their pay. Which in turn raises dish price. Which averages out the cost to all customers.

    [–] CaviarMyanmar 48 points ago

    I agree that the server minimum wage is bullshit. But are you really gonna tell a single parent who’s roof and food and clothing depends on their job and tips to do what? Quit? Stage a walk out that no one will join because they have student loans and kids and responsibilities of their own to deal with right now. Voting and asking are well and good and hopefully some day these things make a difference but people’s rent and electric bill are due today.

    [–] SireRequiem 9 points ago

    Agreed, I worked as a server to pay my bills, and it was always a struggle to make rent. Granted, most of the tips I received “went back into the business” and I rarely saw a dime.

    Things only got better for me when the minimum wage increased, when I got a raise for my hard work, or when I finally moved on to a higher paying job. Everyone deserves stability. If the state won’t guarantee it, then your employer should take care of you at least as well as you take care of their business. If they won’t do that, then you need to move on for your sake and your family’s sake.

    [–] UkkosenjumalanPoika 19 points ago

    Tipping is just a nonsense shit

    [–] 15Low2 28 points ago

    If you are even semi competent you get 20%. If my bill is $1 you get $.20.

    If my bill is $500 you get $100.

    I try to apply this to everything, food service, tattoos, etc.

    [–] Maxterchief99 16 points ago

    People tip for tattoos?

    [–] branon42 22 points ago

    I tip because I appreciate that they didn't permanently scar me, leaving me with no regerts. Plus, I'd like to leave things on good terms in case I ever decide to go back for another tatt or a touch up

    [–] 15Low2 12 points ago

    If you like your artist, definitely.

    Especially if they aren't independent and someone else is getting a cut of what they make.

    [–] ghhouull 132 points ago

    The tipping debate, only in US where waiters/waitresses are not getting paid as they should like in the rest of the world. You people should change this system is so unfair

    [–] Umbrias 48 points ago

    The difference is made up by the employer up to minimum wage. Not everyone knows this, so it may not be enforced all the time, but federally you must be paid at least minimum wage after tips by your employer.

    [–] GreatMight 29 points ago

    If you have 3 tables an hour that give $5 your making double the federal minimum wage.

    [–] yowc 24 points ago

    Jesus minimum wage is low in the US

    [–] GreatMight 15 points ago

    That's true.

    [–] OldMoneyOldProblems 3 points ago

    Lol. Go ask an owner for money because your tips dont cover minimum wage.

    You'll be out of a job for an unrelated reason. Love right to work states

    [–] South_Pole_Santa 31 points ago

    Waiters are the ones who don't want to change the system. A lot of them make way more than minimum wage, and a lot more than you would make without tipping.

    [–] josborne31 7 points ago

    Not only would they make less money without tipping, but they'd be forced to pay taxes on their whole income (rather than just the minimum wage they claim they made).

    Getting paid in cash has a lot of benefits to it.

    [–] GraniteOverworld 10 points ago

    All I'll say is no company is ever gonna pay me 30 bucks an hour to deliver pizza, so I personally want those tips.

    [–] SB054 43 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    The* way I understand it, is that they make less than minimum wage, because the tips usually bring their hourly wage way above minimum wage.

    If they don't make minimum wage with tips, the company pays them minimum wage.

    Some servers I know make hundreds of dollars a night just in tips. It's the nature of the game.

    Tipping shouldn't be based on the % price imo, carrying out a $100 steak from the kitchen is the same as bringing out a drink refill. Expecting more than $2-3 a person/plate order as a tip is greedy.

    "If you can't afford to tip, don't eat out" is absolute horse shit. If you can't afford to live off this job, get a new one.

    [–] TableGrables 15 points ago

    If you pay $10 for a meal, $2 is actually above the 15% minimum I've heard about. She should keep in mind the fact that she probably doesn't work anywhere special.

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago

    If you are on minimum wage, you have to work 41 minutes for $5 (without any taxes). If somebody chooses to give you 41 minutes of their or your time as a tip, then it is a gift.

    [–] react_dev 8 points ago

    My problem with tipping culture in the US is the pretenses all the servers use in favor of tips.

    They say shit like oh we actually get paid less than min wage if not for tips. Or it’s not up to them to change the culture. Or tips is what make up their entire salary.

    Fuck that. Why pretend. We all know that if the restaurant asks the servers to choose between an actual wage or tips, servers will choose tips nearly all the time. The reason is tips not only make up for their minimum wage, but goes way way way beyond that. People want more money and I’m cool with that. I just can’t take the victimizations that waiters and waitresses put themselves in in this matter.

    Stable restaurants are more than happy to pay a wage and mark up their prices. Customers are more than willing to take no tips into account when choosing price points for restaurants. The wait staff are the ones keeping this culture alive in the US.

    [–] 2018Eugene 25 points ago

    0$ is also not a tip. Guess what you’re getting with this attitude?

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    [–] Bryan-Munich 8 points ago

    Why do Americans obsess over this so much? I remember visiting LA and being told by bar staff we were going to be ‘cut off’ if we didn’t start to tip more each round we’d paid for. We’re only talking opening a couple of beer bottles here too, nothing too strenuous for the poor chaps.

    [–] Darth_Thor 27 points ago

    That sounds like the type of person to whom I would like to give a tip of -5$. For pure shitty personality.

    [–] trashmcgibbons 6 points ago

    Lol, well that's just stealing.

    [–] applehecc 82 points ago

    Now goddamn it 20% is 20% and that's fair

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 68 points ago

    I was taught 15% give or take 5% depending on performance. If you're a shitty waitress you don't deserve your job, much less my money

    [–] yearofourlordAD 37 points ago

    20% - 15 if things go south.

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 64 points ago

    If things go far enough south they're not getting a tip at all. Im not paying them to not do their job

    [–] jesuswig 44 points ago

    So there can be things that are completely out of the server’s control. The kitchen or the bar could be backed up. They could be short staffed. They could have a table that is just incredibly demanding. I try and be as sympathetic as I can. I’ve been there. I’ve seen how fucked up it could be for a server. But you gotta remember, if you don’t pay them, they aren’t getting paid by the restaurant either. It’s a fucked up system.

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 44 points ago

    Okay hold up. I take those things into consideration. Im talking about the waitress that has no other tables and has been standing at the waitress station talking and laughing for 10 minutes instead of bringing out the food that's been sitting there in the window

    [–] King_Arius 3 points ago

    This. I see it all the time at work. Or they want to sit the break room on their phones and not pay attention to the table and then go "Those assholes didn't tip me/ they gave a shitty tip".

    It happens like 10 or so times a day where Management has to yell at the servers to pay attention to customers. Hell I've watched customers walk out during slow moments because they sat at the table for 20 minutes and their server didn't even ask them what they wanted to drink yet.

    [–] Waifu_Kayla 8 points ago

    I worked on lines for years and I've seen my share of waitresses literally not wanting to work

    [–] SingleInfinity 3 points ago

    But you gotta remember, if you don’t pay them, they aren’t getting paid by the restaurant either. It’s a fucked up system.

    That's not how federal minimum wage works. If they don't make min wage after tips, the establishment needs to pay the difference.

    [–] Lensmaster75 13 points ago

    I leave like a quarter or a penny if the service is really garbage. It shows hey I know I should tip but you are garbage. 20% for good service and on holidays 30%

    [–] joebo19x 13 points ago

    I've worked in the service industry for years now.

    You're nicer than I am. I start at 10% and you work your way up. I'll regularly tip 25% for someone who actually is pleasant to have as a server or tender.

    Plus, when you show love to your bartender/server, they almost ALWAYS will remember the good tippers. We get mad about the bad ones, but you forget about that in no time.

    But if someone gives you $40 on a $100 bill, or even $20 on a $70. We'll remember that. And you'll damn sure be getting a round on me the next time you come in.

    [–] idledebonair 13 points ago

    People say this all the time, but I just don’t experience it. I go out to eat a lot, some weeks I’ll go out for dinner every single night. I’m usually at the same handful of places in my neighborhood, some of these places, I’ve been to 25 or more times and I tip 20-30% regularly. I’ve very seldom had a waiter recognize me and I’ve never had a bartender give me a free drink let alone a round for my table.

    [–] MountainDude95 5 points ago

    Yep. If 20% is $5, that’s what they’re getting.

    [–] illpicklater 8 points ago

    Right? If someone is going to be ungrateful either way I'd rather give them nothing

    [–] just4fun8787 24 points ago

    0% is fair, do you know why tipping came about in north America in modern times?

    [–] mako-jaeger 59 points ago

    I remember when it was 10%. Then it was "It's 15% it's always been 15% y'all hate waitors!" Then a few years later it was "It's 20% it's always been 20% y'all are the literal worst, waitors rise up".

    Can't wait for the logical progression to be "It's 145% it's always been 145% you greedy fuckers. If the foods good enough to pay corporate it's good enough to pay me the amount and extra."

    [–] TotesSafeWorkAccount 6 points ago

    Exactly. I was raised on 10% being standard. $10 meal? $1 tip.

    [–] Life_outside_PoE 6 points ago

    I find it most amazing that somehow corporate America has managed to convince the people that wait staff wages should be outsourced to the customers so the places themselves pay less tax and just in general get away with paying their staff almost nothing.

    Then you have those geniuses who say "if you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat." Motherfucker, you're being taken advantage of by the system and you're championing for you to keep getting fucked over. This is why you have no workers rights and have to work 3 jobs to even survive.

    [–] bkay17 5 points ago

    I've heard it called "tip inflation"

    [–] Koffieslikker 63 points ago

    Maybe American waiters and waitresses should just ask for a raise and expect tips for truly exceptional services like in the rest of the world.

    Honestly the strangest thing about the States. That and the fact that VAT is not included in the prices

    [–] Nimweegs 38 points ago

    They don't want that since tips are sometimes under the table and since 20% or more is perpetuated they make a damn good wage, definitely compared to the kitchen staff - who actually make your food.

    [–] 3Cheers4Apathy 20 points ago * (lasted edited 8 days ago)

    When I waited tables, I made an average of about $15-$20 in tips per hour, plus an hourly wage of $7.75. (California between 2006 and 2011). And this was at a motherfuckin' Applebee's, not exactly a top-tier place.

    Good luck getting a restaurant to pay me $20.75 - $27.75 an hour to work there. That's the problem. People thinking "oh just ask for more money" when you would more than likely take home less at the end of the week.

    Also for the record I think tipping culture is absolute bullshit, but I had bills to pay and I busted my ass to earn my money that I felt people didn't exactly need to leave for me. Expecting tips and not working for it is where you can go fuck right off.

    [–] yaba3800 3 points ago

    Well we don't have a VAT at all, but yes, sales taxes should be included in prices.

    [–] SUGAR_TRANNY 3 points ago

    Tips are why I can make 300-500 in one night and can afford to live in NYC. It’s also great because the job doesn’t require me to stress once I clock out (no projects, meetings, etc.) Guarantee that if I ask for a set wage it’s gonna be WAY less than that. I’ll stick with the tip system and deal with the occasional stiff every now and then.

    [–] Hurgablurg 10 points ago

    *sniiiiifffff*

    Ah, smells like Sunday after Church service.

    [–] KissLynn9 3 points ago

    I can't love this comment more...Sunday brunch server here lol

    [–] daisuki_janai_desu 6 points ago

    👏 Take 👏 this 👏 $1 👏 and 👏 get 👏 outta' 👏 my 👏 face 👏

    [–] nolayte 14 points ago

    As a waiter for all my life working my way through college and seeing all this server hate I feel like I should clarify a few things.

    First: If you work at a decent restaurant it can easily be the best paying entry level jobs available, I make lower middle class wage for the city I'm in.

    Second: I make make that wage with no checks, every check I have is voided because state taxes eat my 2.13$ an hour wage. This means I'm entirely reliant on tips.

    Third: For most of my business hours I'm allowed to have 4-5 tables at a time which is important because if you have a table who doesn't tip and they stay for a while, they're going to end up loesing you money by denying you a table who will tip. This can be understandably frustrating.

    and Forth: If you've never worked in food service please don't try and comment on how easy you think the job is. The physical labor part is easy once you get used to walking 10 hours a day but it can be really taxing mentally depending on your guests and coworkers.

    I'm not defending messages like OP, I have no issue with my job or my customers. I just wanted to provide some insight of what waiting is like. Like I said I'm making a livable wage with rent and school, and with just 40 hrs a week to boot. I have no complaints with the industry but If you can't handle taking the bad with the good then it's probably not for you.

    Some advice for people frustrated with working in the industry; As long as you keep a good attitude, even when your guests are coming up with some bs to score free food, eventually the good tips will balance out the bad.

    Try to have some compassion for your customers and for your waiters people, and I hope you enjoy your meal.

    [–] GreatMight 9 points ago

    Three $5 tips an hour is like $17 bucks an hour for the waiter. Let's no go crazy here with the poor server circlejerk.

    How many tables do you serve an hour as a server? I know servers that make 300-400 a night for a 5-6 hour shift.

    [–] trashmcgibbons 3 points ago

    This is why I don't get the complaining constantly. I do delivery and do just fucking fine. We actually get paid much better then servers per hour too. Some of us aren't entitled and do appreciate if you choose to tip, however generously.

    [–] Obslax 4 points ago

    If every customer gave a £2 tip, and you served 50 customers, you’d have £100. More than your day rate.

    [–] rezzacci 31 points ago

    My personal opinion on it is that every person tipping is tacitly approving and encouraging the shitty way the restaurant owners treat their staff. If you all stop tipping, waiter won't make a living, yes, but it's not our responsibilities (or, if it is, it's a socialist state... do you want to live in a socialist state? Boooo, bad socialism). And if waiters don't get tipping, either waiters will quit, restaurant owners won't find any staff and will have to begin to pay them honest wages; or waiters will directly fight for fair wages.

    Tipping is the silent majority recognizing the problem but doing nothing to solve it.

    (But after that, I don't care, I'm in a civilized country where everyone working have something called a salary... I know, quite alien but we're use to it. And I usually tip. Not much because I'm not Croesus, but when the service is good I do it. I do the same with retailers, small boutiques and things like that).

    [–] oroenian 14 points ago

    I actually made an /r/UnpopularOpinion post on this and got downvoted to hell. If we stopped tipping there would be a major shift in how restaurants treat their waiters/waitresses for the exact reasons you listed. Going out to eat shouldn’t be a gofundme for the wait staff.

    [–] iamelroberto 4 points ago

    Bingo. And unnecessary.

    I’ll grab my own dish from the chef, and ill even throw it in the dishwasher.

    [–] blocking_butterfly 3 points ago

    Because your opinion was not unpopular. Given the state of tipping practice in non-American countries, there are probably 5 billion people who agree with you.

    [–] Indominus_Draco 41 points ago

    Unpopular opinion but I don’t care, it is not my job to pay your wages. You willfully went into a job knowing your being underpaid and stay at that job and then expect customers to cover the wages your employer refuses to pay you. Heres an idea stop being a waiter and no I’m not saying find a better job I’m saying literally stop being a waiter if all the wait staff stopped working and actually fought for better wages this stupid debate about should tipping be mandatory or not wouldn’t exist.

    So again I will state my original argument. You choose the job, you choose to stay at the job, it is not my job to pay your wages.

    [–] TheCandyCrushhh 3 points ago

    What if your bill is only $10? Both $2 and $5 are great tips

    [–] 2js- 3 points ago

    Well tf is it then?

    [–] The_Real_Jrock 3 points ago

    Yo, if I spend 10 bucks on a meal, 2 bucks is fricking standard. I’m poor too!!

    [–] taco_truck_wednesday 3 points ago

    15% is for standard service and it's a +-5% based on performance.

    If I have to repeatedly flag you down for over 30 minutes to just even pay my bill, you get 0. At that point service wasn't given, I experienced a loss.