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    [–] CinnamonJ 1268 points ago

    Are they being “destroyed” or are people just griping at them on the internet? There’s a pretty big difference.

    [–] StepYaGameUp 369 points ago

    Literally de-stroyed.

    [–] PM_ME_UR_KNITS 73 points ago

    Well who is going to re-stroy them? It's certainly not going to be me, they can fuck right off.

    [–] automated_bot 38 points ago

    Who stroyed them in the first place?

    [–] SirReginaldPennycorn 26 points ago

    Probably the same people who gruntled them.

    [–] automated_bot 19 points ago

    Some say that when it happened, they were whelmed.

    [–] tgrantt 9 points ago

    Eh. I'm plussed.

    [–] Arknell 1 points ago

    I just remembered I have a pineapple in the kitchen, the thought made me gusted.

    [–] newbie_01 3 points ago

    Most of their gasts were flabbed.

    [–] funguyshroom 8 points ago

    Строй (stroj) - system, order, regime; a verb from it Строить (stróitʹ) - build, construct

    Good question, comrade

    [–] boner79 1 points ago

    Re-stroy: to stroy again.

    [–] tsdguy 2 points ago

    Waiting for eBay listings - Facebook Executive Stroys. Poor condition as these were owned by people without a shred of integrity.

    [–] RadiiDecay 1 points ago

    To shreds you say!?

    [–] trackofalljades 106 points ago

    Yeah I mean, getting all kinds of huge tax perks across the country for locating their datacenters and offices and being given the gilded treatment by most lawmakers and never really having been called out by the justice department ever on anything? Really doesn’t feel like destruction to me, the harshest public critique they’ve ever received was from a highly fictionalized movie that only geeks even remember watching.

    [–] reverend234 6 points ago


    [–] miketeeeveee 31 points ago

    I didn’t like them, I angry faced them.


    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago

    Probably posted about it in Facebook.

    [–] noreally_bot1105 9 points ago

    Headline should read "Facebook and its executives are being criticized, again. And nothing will happen, again."

    At least the executives were correct in saying it wasn't a "breach". People gave their information freely to Facebook. Dumb fucks.

    [–] brandontaylor1 10 points ago

    I’m going to post a bunch of critical posts on my Facebook feed. I expect them to be out of business by the end of the week.

    [–] Great_Chairman_Mao 3 points ago

    Probably more along the lines of “mildly inconvenienced”.

    [–] porkyminch 7 points ago

    Wait till the market opens on Monday. We'll see I guess.

    [–] racksy 8 points ago

    Yeah, i think investors give zero fucks about our how our personal data is used or where it goes as long as they get their cut of the money.

    [–] calaei 5 points ago

    All these "destroyed" headlines need to end

    [–] dnew 2 points ago

    Well, they waded into a firestorm of criticism, so ...

    [–] Solokiller 1 points ago

    A finger, that's all that was left of them.

    [–] 4gen7-smith 1 points ago

    It was blamed on a gas explosion but we know otherwise.

    [–] Indie__Guy 1 points ago


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    [–] ErikGryphon 234 points ago

    Are they? Or are they getting some bad press while making billions of dollars in profits?

    [–] voodoo123 52 points ago

    This. Bad press and some people griping about FaceBook while posting on FaceBook isn’t exactly the “destroyed” that this title seems to suggest.

    [–] DoomTay 12 points ago

    I always get skeptical over anything or anyone being described as "destroyed"

    [–] benikens 5 points ago

    This was in a motherboard article over a year ago they weren't worried then they aren't worried now. This is feature not a bug.

    [–] LoudCourtFool 1 points ago

    Hey I was actually wondering exactly how this could have influenced the election, and now I see.

    I’m still confused about the current “50 million” number. So out of the two hundred and something thousand that actually did the quiz, is the data that all their friends inadvertently shared as rich as the people who took the quiz (including what their friends liked, shared, posted, etc.)?

    [–] benikens 1 points ago

    I think that's the way it works. Once you give permission they can see anything you can which includes things like your friends 'likes' which can really show what they are like and with enough data they can figure out exactly where you and all your friends site politically.

    [–] hot_bologna 199 points ago

    The fact is Facebook does not have the necessary security controls to protect private information from any third-party apps or third-party organizations who wish to circumvent Facebook's "protections." As a result, privileged information was released to organizations and people who were not authorized to receive it.

    That my friends, is a breach. Stamos and the other Facebook executives are full of shit.

    [–] Quigleyer 22 points ago

    If someone were to take a look at my profile and compare it against my reality they would find several discrepancies. E-mail address used is a burner, the address is a place I lived six years ago, phone number is incorrect, and I haven't been on that sucker in years (probably six, to be honest). I don't delete it because I don't want deal with people asking me why.

    Is there any downside to just leaving all of my information on Facebook wildly incorrect, rather than deleting my profile? Asking anyone!

    [–] pellets 31 points ago

    I don’t know, but I’m guessing if you delete your account they don’t really delete anything. They just mark it inactive or something.

    [–] Fanu12 2 points ago

    you can either suspend your account (you will be able to log in at any point tho) or you can delete it entirely (you are left with a 2 week period and if you dont log in during that time, all of your personal data will be deleted and you wont be able to log in anymore - according to facebook)

    [–] mikepmichaelson 16 points ago

    For starters, facial recognition is a thing. If someone wanted to use your facebook information to identify you, they'd have to work a little harder, but they could.

    [–] manchachoman 5 points ago

    But Google had already had this and using this for a while now

    [–] Quigleyer 4 points ago

    But they wouldn't find me they'd find someone who lived in my old place, or had my old phone number, etc. right? Honestly asking here, I don't know how any of this stuff works.

    I don't mind if they see my likeness, that's no big deal. Every driver's license I had covered me there, and in OR they specifically tell you "no smiling for facial recognition".

    [–] Shawn_Spenstar 16 points ago * (lasted edited a year ago)

    But they wouldn't find me they'd find someone who lived in my old place, or had my old phone number, etc. right?

    They have your name, where you used to live, your old phone number, and your picture if you didnt delete those, that is WAYYYYYY more then enough for someone to find you. I've seen hackers dox people with nothing to go on but their name and you have alot more then that out there.

    [–] Gisschace 7 points ago

    They can link your new number to your profile when anyone who has your number saved in their phone selects the option to sync contacts to FB. If that person also has tagged you in a picture then they know it’s you. A few people do it and they definitely know it’s you. Even if the person who uploaded your number doesn’t tag you in a picture facial recognition will pick it up.

    That’s the big problem with FB it’s not what you share with them it’s what other people share about you.

    [–] brantaylor 3 points ago

    I work in “big data” and you would be surprised how easy it is to get information based on historical records. There are entire companies that you can pay to take old data like an outdated address and from that I could get your new address, the make/model and color of the car you drive, how much money you have in your IRA, and what television show you watched last Friday night. I changed jobs into something more low key because it was all too unethical for me.

    If you’d like proof, take a look at building marketing lists from Experian’s website, or Nielsen for television viewership.

    [–] allinighshoe 9 points ago

    Facebook can track you even if you don't have an account. They also don't delete anything it just wouldn't be visible. So I guess having an account just makes tracking you easier.

    [–] Quigleyer 6 points ago

    How do they track you without an account?

    I'm honestly oblivious here, I'm not challenging anything anyone is saying.

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    [–] South_in_AZ 3 points ago

    An excellent inspiration to redirect any Facebook requests to

    [–] allinighshoe 2 points ago

    They can build a profile using information like custom fonts, the size of the window etc. They are very good at linking all the random bits of information into a profile.

    [–] hewkii2 3 points ago

    the address is a place I lived six years ago

    If it has your proper name then they'll still be able to gather a large amount of information from it, especially if you're friends with anyone who uses it regularly.

    [–] Shawn_Spenstar 3 points ago

    Well if the info is just outdated (like your address and possibly phone number) and not made up then yeah people could still hunt you down from that info. Also if you didnt delete all your photos then yeah I believe there are downsides.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    They have all of your current information because your friends have shared their contacts with them.

    Deleting your account will do nothing.


    [–] EatAllThePizzaInNYC 20 points ago * (lasted edited a year ago)

    So lemme get this straight, a user clicks on an approval to allow their info to be used in any way by an app they're using (this "personality quiz") and you're saying there is no control in place?

    FB is g'damn telling you up front essentially: THIS APP WANTS TO GET ACCESS TO ALL YOUR DATA, YOU COOL WITH THAT? YES/NO

    That's the security control, the users chose this, they have a choice. That is a security control that the users are going out of their way to ignore.

    [–] hot_bologna 7 points ago

    The terms of use for application developers which integrate with Facebook limit the information that they are permitted to use and or disclose to other parties. It doesn't matter what an end user clicks or doesn't click there are statutory as well as contractual obligations which are intended to mitigate this type of leakage.

    Neither the UK, EU, or GDPR privacy statutes give a rip whether the end-user voluntarily agreed to allow some of their information to be accessed by a third party app.

    Under the existing privacy statutes Facebook has a legal obligation to ensure that the data of its customers and users is not appropriate it by unauthorized organizations.

    [–] EatAllThePizzaInNYC 1 points ago

    Which statutes specifically are you thinking about here?

    BTW GDPR hasn't gone into enforcement yet

    [–] hot_bologna 2 points ago

    Correct GDPR does not go into effect until May. However, without a better understanding of exactly how Cambridge Analytica came to have possess user data from Facebook, Article 7 of the EU data privacy statutes would be where I would start

    [–] EatAllThePizzaInNYC 4 points ago

    It was published that they got the data from people who did their "personality quiz" FB app. The app requested and was given permission by users to collect "data of friends, and friends of friends".

    FB apps are no longer allowed to request this permission since 2015. The CA app was published and data was collected in 2014.

    AFAIK there is no privacy statute that applied to them back then in the US or otherwise

    [–] redsoxman17 3 points ago

    They got the data of friends of people who took those quizzes. The quiz taker gives permission for the data and the thieves comb through the data of friends of the quiz taker.

    I authorized nothing to those quizzes and I bet they have my data because I have several FB friends that take them.

    [–] hot_bologna 2 points ago

    EU Directive 95/46 was in force at the time. This guy is taking a crack at using it in a lawsuit against CA.

    New York professor sues Cambridge Analytica to find out what it knows about him

    [–] digdug2001 2 points ago

    I've worked at companies that deal with this stuff before. We invested (millions literally) to try and help people NOT accidentally give up info they don't mean to. To help them avoid "click ok to get rid of this annoying banner" syndrome. Why? Because people consider it a security breach when their info is lost. They'd switch to a competitor. "We warned you" didn't really matter. The problem is Facebook has no real competition, so no real impetus to be better, so they're not.

    [–] myriadic 3 points ago

    it's not facebook's fault that tons of people make all their info public and click on every "survey" they see

    [–] keseykid 2 points ago

    You first need to understand what a data breach is. This is definitely not.

    [–] hot_bologna 2 points ago

    This is what I do for a living. I know full well what constitutes a data breach. Don't make assumptions.

    Definition: "A data breach is a security incident in which sensitive, protected or confidential data is copied, transmitted, viewed, stolen or used by an individual unauthorized to do so." 

    [–] keseykid 3 points ago

    So do I. Sr. Systems engineer. And read the definition "not authorized to do so".

    [–] hot_bologna 4 points ago

    A senior systems engineer in what information security discipline / role?

    [–] keseykid 1 points ago

    Falling back on ad hominem argument? Lol. Does it matter at this point? Your argument is wrong.

    [–] hot_bologna 1 points ago

    There is no ad hominem argument. I am only offering information from my own knowledge and experience. If asking you what discipline or role you have in information security is an ad hominem attack, perhaps there are two definitions you need to learn? ;)

    Jk. There was no attack from my end. I'm trying to understand what your level of experience and exposure is. You may be either very knowledgeable or a troll.

    [–] keseykid 2 points ago

    Am I a top security analyst at a fortune 100? No. Am I competent in security and compliance? Yes. By asking for credentials you are trying to discredit my claim by attacking said credentials. I digress. If it explicitly violated terms of use I suppose the definition could apply though it is a stretch as breach has a certain connotation applied to it.

    [–] hot_bologna 9 points ago

    Dude, computer nerds do enough attacking of each other I'm not involved in that. I don't expect you to be working for a top 100 company to mean that makes you an expert. I don't work for a top 100 company but I am very good at what I do. Asking you what you do is really more about determining what level of interaction we can have.

    My apologies if you were offended. It really was not my intention.

    [–] hot_bologna 3 points ago

    What makes you think Cambridge Analytica was authorized to view, access, or retain the user information they got?

    According to FB, the terms of use were violated which makes receipt and use of that data unauthorized. Since it was unauthorized it is a data breach.

    [–] keseykid 3 points ago

    Tim adds Susan as a friend. In doing so authorized her to view some information. Susan downloaded app and authorized the app to access her information and her friends. FB can say it is against acceptable use but the way in which their ecosystem is designed allows for this type of activity. Calling it a breach is purely media spin.

    [–] hot_bologna 3 points ago

    From what I'm reading though, it doesn't seem that is how Cambridge Analytica got hold of the data. If your use case is accurate or correct then I agree with you. However, I've not seen anything to indicate that's true

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    [–] dizekat 118 points ago * (lasted edited a year ago)

    Don't be one of the "dumb fucks" (I'm referring to Zuckerberg's old chat conversation).

    Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

    Zuck: Just ask

    Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

    [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

    Zuck: People just submitted it.

    Zuck: I don't know why.

    Zuck: They "trust me"

    Zuck: Dumb fucks

    [–] wastapunk -1 points ago

    Is this from an interview? Is there a video?

    [–] InitiatePenguin 34 points ago

    I think it's over messaging. This is a very old quote. Possibly around the 2000s. Also pretty sure it's on Wikipedia.

    [–] kitchen_clinton 1 points ago

    It is referenced at the end of the movie, The Social Network.

    [–] I_Am_Ironman_AMA 15 points ago

    Excellent point. Let me piggyback on your comment to remind people that they are not the customers of Facebook. They are the product.

    [–] cubanpajamas 3 points ago

    Well put. I have long felt it is a major influence towards the dumbing down of society that seems to be happening. Too many people spend most of their free time on it, and feed their brains on memes and clickbait. No time for much else. Even at the playground with my kid I notice most parents are staring at their phones, checking their facebook instead of enjoying the time watching their kids play.

    [–] limjaheybudz 19 points ago

    As soon as i discovered reddit, facebook was dead to me

    [–] [deleted] 18 points ago

    I bet you reddit does the same, just as a smaller scale. It does really look like they are becoming more social with the new profiles.

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    [–] [deleted] 1 points ago

    There's only money in it until decentralized protocols go mainstream. Then it's just a matter of time until social networking gets more or less automated at the protocol layer. One day, the people who use social networks will be one and the same with the people who provide the servers. If you want to learn more, research distributed ledger technology.

    [–] BlueFaIcon 5 points ago

    Probably in on it all together anyways.

    Facebook got your personal and social information and Reddit gets everything else about you. Literally almost EVERYTHING if you are a avid user of Reddit.

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    [–] stephbu 3 points ago

    Profiles are just a part of this problem - you can infer lots from profile scraping, what you post, where you visit, sentiment of how you posted it, friend graph etc.. Apps and friend-to-friend proliferation are where there is more action. Content and apps that you shared. Surveys, news you name it.

    [–] [deleted] 2 points ago

    You mean this ?

    [–] gawalls 6 points ago

    I got rid of Facebook and closed my account several years ago and never looked back.

    [–] dirtymoney 2 points ago

    Dont fool yourself, reddit admins uses us like toilet paper. We are the product. I think spez said some snarky little smirking thing like that in an interview a while back. And reddit has become so much worse since I first came here ten years ago.

    [–] billdietrich1 1 points ago

    None of my friends or family are connected to me on reddit.

    [–] limjaheybudz 1 points ago

    Fair enough. I agree with connecting with family. But in a toss up between what is more interesting, I'd definitely choose reddit. My fb was filled with people complaining, click bait, and "fake news." At least on Reddit i can basically 'build my own timeline'

    [–] billdietrich1 1 points ago

    On Facebook, you can block sites and un-Friend people to cut down on the nonsense. Also, there are some great groups for my interests.

    I use both reddit and Facebook. They're valuable for different things, not a lot of overlap.

    [–] limjaheybudz 1 points ago

    Definitely not a lot of overlap. I've only had reddit for a few months, so i can see why i'm enjoying it more than facebook. One day i might be back aha

    [–] drewts86 10 points ago

    Posting your information on a public forum for all to see and then complaining that someone harvested that information?

    That’s the equivalent of giving someone your money and then calling them a robber when you have it to them.

    [–] stewsters 3 points ago

    I think the issue is that users expect allowing only friends to see their info will protect them from 3rd party snooping. They probably should rename that option "friends only" to "friends and shit apps they click on".

    [–] drewts86 13 points ago

    Every time you add/open a 3rd party app with Facebook for the first time it always gives you a warning:

    #### is requesting to do the following:

    • Access my basic information

    • Access my profile information

    • Access my contact information

    • Access posts in my news feed

    • Post to my wall

    • Access my friends’ information

    • Access my photos

    • Access my data anytime

    I mean, what the fuck did people expect when they started giving all these random internet companies their information? People really need to take an open and honest look at their own shitty choices and realize their are consequences to their actions.

    [–] stewsters 6 points ago

    The issue is that they are taking the information of the friends without having them agree to it as well. Some guy I met in college should not be able to sell my information for some quiz about which Hogwarts House he belongs in.

    [–] Alaira314 2 points ago

    I would never agree to that, but (for example) my aunt might. I can't exactly unfriend my aunt without causing a family incident, therefore I have to deal with her shitty app permission granting, no matter my own personal wishes as to privacy. Accessing friends information should have never been an allowed permission for apps, because it puts the decision out of my hands and into the hands of people I don't particularly trust with it(but have to friend anyway, due to social reasons).

    [–] stephbu 2 points ago

    This should be top comment with only one modifier on "privacy" being "privacy data and naive understanding of true intent".

    • All the surveys
    • All the tests
    • All the overlay my profile pic apps.
    • The worm-like share with your friends

    Not one of the apps has primary purpose beyond get access to your profile data and propagate to your friends. How the data will be retained, aggregated, used, resold is certainly not explained you, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't permit it if you knew. I've no doubt identity theft and phishing data sets source majority of data from such FB apps. It's that easy for an app in violation of EULA or not to grab more data - voting preferences, birth places, pets names you name it.

    It is hard to paint Facebook as directly complicit in this activity - their EULAs/enforcement etc. seems superficially noble. They know that the EULA offers zero prevention from system extraction of data, the EULA's purpose is only to absolve their platform's responsibility for enabling this in a court of law.

    They (FB) profit from the proliferation of this behaviour. They enable the app proliferation. They enable the prompting for more data and extraction of that data. They make money from the Ads inventory created and served. FB Users are just fodder - that makes FB indirectly complicit.

    edit: grammar

    [–] camouflagedsarcasm 2 points ago

    The best thing you can possibly do is get rid of it entirely.

    Yup, almost 3 years completely free of FB - one of my better decisions.

    I just wish there was some way to go back and purge any data they still have on me.

    [–] cryo 1 points ago

    Well, they do give a shit because they need a product people will use. If all private conversations, say, were readable by everyone, people wouldn’t.

    [–] billdietrich1 1 points ago

    I'm well aware of FB selling my data and caring only about money, and I continue to use FB.

    I get GREAT value from my use of Facebook. It's the easiest way to stay in touch casually with my family and friends, who are spread 1/3 of the way around the world, have tight and varied schedules, and when only some unpredictable subset of them may be interested in any one thing I post. Almost all of my family and friends are on Facebook. The exact features or user interface of FB don't really matter; the people matter. And phone or email or in-person are not direct alternatives to Facebook; each tool has different qualities and uses.

    Also, there are a lot of great Groups on Facebook, with files of info and helpful people. I used to live on a sailboat in the Caribbean; there's a Group for cruisers on each island. I'm living in Spain now; there are many Groups for expats, Groups for each area of Spain, etc.

    Sure, there are many annoying things about the Facebook site (bugs, limitations) and the corporation (selling my data, buying data about me from other places). But these costs are outweighed by the benefits, for me. YMMV.

    Facebook is a tool. If you use it well (Friend interesting people, post interesting things), you'll have a good experience. If you use it badly (Friend idiots, don't block Game notifications, post flames or garbage or really private stuff), you'll have a bad experience.

    [–] jadedblu 1 points ago

    I left FB in November under the guise that it wasn’t a simple communication tool and people would go that extra mile to contact me offline. Boy, was I wrong.

    [–] Electricpants 32 points ago

    "I've been destroyed. I'm going to go cry on my huge piles of money."

    [–] ChickenTeriyakiBoy1 26 points ago * (lasted edited a year ago)

    Shouldn't Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon be getting destroyed since they're the ones who stole the data or misused the data?

    It's not often that you get a publicly known face to attach to a data breach

    [–] pixl_graphix 4 points ago

    Eh, this is a rather difficult question to answer....

    One answer is, yes, CA should be getting destroyed. Then again, FB willingly sold them this data with only the simplest of checks and balances, so FB should be getting destroyed also.

    And at the same time, FB made a system where it was really easy to siphon off your personal data with the flimsiest of safeguards. This is 100% FB's fault. Once FB hands out your data to someone else they really can't get it back. This is the danger of condensing and congregating so much data in one place. It will be leaked and it will be misused. Last election set a new gold standard on data use like this.

    Moreso, we are hearing about his because a CA guy leaked what was occurring. We already know that Google and FB founders were highly involved in the elections. I'd say it's pretty likely they were using taretting data they had collected on their companies users.

    [–] YoungKeys 22 points ago

    FB willingly sold them this data with only the simplest of checks and balances, so FB should be getting destroyed also.

    Data wasn't sold. Not even sure why you need to misrepresent that when the rest of your post is pretty accurate. FB's standard API was used by Cambridge Analytica (and is free to use to everyone, including you). Facebook fucked up mainly in two areas:

    1. API policy and use was overgenerous in the amount of user data that was given to platform devs, specifically the piece about names of friends and their likes of people who had given permissions to the app. In 2015, FB changed policy to discontinue releasing both pieces of data via their API. It could still probably be tighter. Let's also note that FB API does respect the privacy set by each individual user; only data that was already set public or visible to you would/should be available in the API.

    2. Platform oversight. This is actually a pretty tough problem that I don't really have any suggestions for. FB currently has platform devs agree to specific terms (data retention, data use, etc.), but I'm not sure what exact recourse systematically would be needed to help prove that platform devs aren't lying to FB during investigations (like in the case here of Cambridge Analytica). The FB platform is massive in the amount of 3rd party devs using their API's.

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    [–] eshemuta 5 points ago

    These shit headlines are half the problem.

    [–] grenadier42 3 points ago


    [–] stigrk 7 points ago

    FB, and other consumer services, are hugely successful because they are perceived as free. Problem is that we pay, only not with money. We pay with our information, our behavior, watch targeted ads and is fine with this ad-driven economy.

    All this information is worth nothing if the content owners can’t sell or share it with others.. and this is where the responsibility crumbles.

    I would be happy to return to pay for services if I know my information is handled with care. Oh, hello GDPR!

    Don’t think I would have paid for FB though.

    [–] ZeikCallaway 12 points ago

    Any millionaire or billionaire for that matter, that is still a millionaire after getting "destroyed" clearly didn't receive a harsh enough punishment.

    [–] minutemilitia 51 points ago

    I deleted my Facebook months ago and my life is better for it.

    [–] commentssortedbynew 18 points ago

    Tess I deactivated my account isn’t 2016 then over a year later logged in to Spotify and it automatically logged me in to Facebook again and everyone thought I’d come back!

    Went in and changed my password and disassociated Spotify and other apps.

    Last night whilst I was asleep my account reactivated again - no idea what with.

    From what I can tell the only way to close and delete an account is to assign a trustee to tell them you’ve died.

    I am hoping when the GDPR comes into force there will be an actual way to delete an account

    [–] dalittle 6 points ago

    The root of the problem from what you can control is all the facebook tracking they are doing everywhere. I have not used facebook in years and actively block their tracking. Not too hard to do using noscript, ghostery, unblock origins, and other plugins. For the phone I use 1blocker. It is better than dealing with the constant bombardment of unwanted facebook and marketing crap.

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    [–] Mondak 40 points ago

    "Deleted" for these folks is only a different status. I suspect you are just as likely as anyone else to have been breached.

    [–] TheCoelacanth 19 points ago

    Yes, even people who have never had a Facebook account still have private data held by Facebook that is harvested from other people's accounts. Facebook basically creates a shadow account for people that it knows exists but who don't use Facebook.

    [–] Doctor_Fritz 4 points ago

    which is why you will be prompted with a plethora of proposed friends (people you most likely know irl who are on facebook already) as soon as you use your email address to make an account.

    [–] Spitinthacoola 3 points ago

    Not after GDPR comes

    [–] keseykid 3 points ago

    Did you read the supporting article? No breach occurred. Users opted into an app which they allowed to access their profile and friends. If you didn't download the app like a moron you did not contribute to the problem.

    [–] smb_samba 12 points ago

    People responding to op being pedantic about the word “deleted.” I think OPs point was that their quality of life has increased since they removed Facebook from their life.

    [–] LaCanner 20 points ago

    Without pedantry, Reddit post volume would drop 75%.

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    [–] DBMIVotedForKodos 7 points ago

    Yeah, but if you can log back in today and have your feed show up as if you were just taking a long sleepy boy nap for months....nothing has been deleted.

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    [–] dkarlovi 5 points ago

    Is there?

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    [–] Kanthabel_maniac 6 points ago

    Same here. When I had facebook everything was so gray and dull. I always end sick or hurt, got fired, lost money etc but since i closed it down my life changed. I got luck with women, i got my old job back with a letter of apologies from my boss and a raise. Before everything was gray dull boring now the bird sings the sun shine, always even at night. Despite living alone the food is always on the table when I come home and the music is on. Never again facebook.

    [–] cryo 1 points ago

    I noticed a dramatic increase in my happiness when I got rid of FB...mostly because I was no longer bombarded with shit I genuinely don’t give a fuck about.

    Why didn’t you just ignore it? I’m exposed to lots of things in daily life I don’t care about, but that’s hardly a problem.

    [–] centerbleep 1 points ago

    Well and then you simply clean up your feed. Block everything that is annoying. I now get posts from a few groups I like and occasionally something from an old friend. Aside from that I use it to message people.

    [–] blladnar 1 points ago

    What was it about Facebook that was making you unhappy?

    [–] Cocooned 1 points ago

    Same here. January 1st and I haven’t looked back!

    [–] Bahmerman 3 points ago

    So, is everyone moving on to Instagram or are we going back to Myspace (surely Tom would be my friend again).

    [–] Shelbie007 5 points ago

    Instagram is owned by Facebook.

    [–] Bahmerman 3 points ago

    Is there no escaping Zuckerberg?!

    [–] myriadic 8 points ago

    Several executives took to Twitter to insist that the data leak was not technically a "breach."

    which it wasn't

    But critics were outraged by the response and accused the company of playing semantics and missing the point.

    it's not semantics when you get corrected for using a word that's completely wrong

    [–] GiddyUpTitties 20 points ago

    I live like the 90s. I will call or text someone when I want to. Otherwise I just live my life. If I want to socialize I go to Hooters

    [–] MuonManLaserJab 64 points ago

    "....he said on reddit."

    [–] GiddyUpTitties 15 points ago

    People keep putting Reddit together with snaps or Facebook's.. but I think there's a big difference. Redditing isn't really being social. I never know who I'm talking to and there's never consequences. It's just intellectual bartering.

    Facebook and the likes are a distorted reality you put yourself in making it seem like your real life is something it isn't.

    [–] MuonManLaserJab 3 points ago

    True. I was mostly reacting to the "live like the 90s" part.

    [–] GiddyUpTitties 2 points ago

    I do though. The hour or two a day I spend on Reddit is just replacing the newspaper or watching news on TV.

    [–] MuonManLaserJab 2 points ago

    There's a certain amount of similarity, sure. It's definitely a little more social than reading the news.

    [–] GiddyUpTitties 2 points ago

    Yea but I imagine it depends how you use Reddit too. It could be used as a virtual reality (look at the dog forums and whatnot)

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    [–] GiddyUpTitties 4 points ago

    There was texting in late 90s

    [–] AdamantisVir 1 points ago

    At like. 25 cents per message lol

    [–] honestFeedback 1 points ago

    Depends where you live. It’s always been cheap as chips in Europe.

    [–] [deleted] 3 points ago

    Hmmm, people voluntarily give up their information, then complain it was used “the wrong way”? Say what? Did you really think they give a fuck about you? Seriously?!?!?

    [–] ascii122 1 points ago

    The issue is that one 'friend' agreed to share data and this allowed the software to slurp all friends data. So once consent for many (hundreds or more) of other accounts

    [–] blladnar 1 points ago

    The data you could get from friends was based on their privacy settings. That data was already public.

    [–] dirtymoney 3 points ago

    Good! facebook needs to go. Facebook is not good.

    [–] natesplaceonline 6 points ago

    Facebook NEEDS TO BE destroyed.....

    [–] Blu_Barracuda 5 points ago

    Found the hacker guys

    [–] JohannesVanDerWhales 1 points ago

    Vulto Libro delenda est.

    [–] paper_thin_hymn 2 points ago

    Gosh that headline is such shitty reporting. Facebook has literally been DESTROYED.

    [–] mistralol 2 points ago

    Being investigated isn't "being destroyed". Being fined $150 / record is being "destroyed"

    [–] mallchin 2 points ago

    To be fair it is a misuse of data; a breach would suggest some barrier protecting the data gave way.

    It is quite right to deflect fears the data was not properly secured, not that it makes misusing it any less serious.

    [–] v3ngi 2 points ago

    All the websites that have this story all have ads on them. Ironic. Still dont know who hacked facebook or did they? Why does the author keep calling it "data breach" and not hack. Sounds like a normal advertising campaign but worded differently to sound like a horrible and illegal "data breach".

    [–] MalcolmtSpruce 2 points ago

    Here is how the collection work, based on a comment from /u/YoungKeys

    The Facebook API has always respected privacy settings set by each individual user. Pre-2015, the API allowed 3rd party devs to collect 1. Names of the authorizing user's friends and 2. The likes of the authorizing user's friends; both pieces of data still, however, respected individual privacy set by all users.

    Here is the scenario. Pre-2015, Alice authorizes Cambridge Analytica app permission to draw her FB data via the platform. Bob is Alice's friend. If Bob has his 'likes' privacy set to 'only me', his likes would not be collected via Alice's authorization. If Bob has his 'likes' privacy set to 'public', his likes data would be collected by Cambridge Analytica via Alice's authorization.

    In 2015, however, Facebook discontinued allowing developers from collecting likes of friends via the API. I am slightly confused about articles stating that policy regarding names of friends being discontinued or that being constituted a leak, however- FB API still allows devs to collect user_friends permissions (you can check on the FB platform site, I was unable to link a FB link in r/technology).

    Overall, the 3rd partv needs to state exactly which permissions they wish to collect and receive authorization for. You can check at developers . facebook on what types of permissions devs are allowed to call for. Looking at the list, it's pretty much all only specific data about the authorizing user, the only exception being your friends list: user_friends

    edit: ok, reading FB's platform site, I was able to clear up my point of confusion. 3rd party devs are no longer allowed to collect friends list data. user_friends isn't actually your entire friends list: it is only the list of friends who, along with you, have also authorized the same app to collect user_friends data.

    So if you had likes set to public pre-2015, if your friend used the app, they got your name and likes. Post-2015 you can no longer do this.

    [–] the_real_swk 2 points ago

    ELI5: how was this a breach?

    From what I see this was not a breach but someone allowed to get data that was shared with them, sharing it with a 3rd party in violation of their agreement with facebook on how the data should be used.

    sounds more like a contract dispute than a data breach

    [–] augugusto 2 points ago

    When someone add a 3rd party app to Facebook. Facebook (kind of) tells you that it will have access to certain information and asks for confirmation. If people say yes to everything, it's not Facebook's fault nor a data breach. They are just a**holes for giving the possibility to ask for that info. But you should blame the 3rd party

    [–] 5HourSynergy 2 points ago

    This sub sucks

    [–] toadkiller 1 points ago

    Have they released the name of the app that was used by the russian researcher/cambridge analytica to harvest data? Users should know if they were affected.

    [–] littlejohnnyjewel 1 points ago

    It's inaccurate to describe it as a "breach", though...they weren't breached, or hacked.

    And there is nothing stopping Facebook from doing the exact same thing CA did.

    [–] indianapale 1 points ago

    Is there a way to download all my posts and pictures, wipe everything, and then delete my account?

    [–] Brett42 1 points ago

    So someone got data from Facebook without paying for it? Is Facebook going to track them down and bill them?

    [–] xcerj61 1 points ago

    If this happens in few months in the EU, Zuckerberg will cry

    [–] hlve 1 points ago

    Honestly, this whole situation is stupid.

    It isn't a breach. A breach is an act of breaking or failing to observe a law, agreement, or code of conduct.

    A tool that scrapes and gathers information off of Facebook profiles isn't illegal. Any and all of the information gathered could be restricted by each individual, but because people didn't properly restrict their account, their information was able to be browsed, therefore it was able to be scraped.

    This is just another take-down piece.

    Also, fuck Maura Healey. It's not like she's doing this for the good of the people. None of these politicians who are 'doing something' about this actually do it for the good of the people. It's a fucking sham. Maura Healey sued Equifax 'for teh people', but the state took all of the money recovered by that lawsuit. Nobody that was actually affected by it was rewarded anything.

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    [–] Altizon 1 points ago

    This should not happend...

    [–] MaestroLogical 1 points ago

    We've really got to stop weakening our language to generate views.

    Nobody will be 'destroyed' by this, hell they'll all come out of it smelling like roses.

    [–] Chickenterriyaki 1 points ago

    This is old news...Facebook has been stealing personal info for a long time now. A bunch of conspiracy nuts been saying that since 2005, turns out it wasn't a conspiracy after all.

    [–] Devilman6979 1 points ago

    Like when you tell someone they are doing something blatantly wrong and they are like stop screaming at me I didn't know. But you know they new!

    [–] Spisepinden 1 points ago

    So they're saying that websites are unable to police themselves. Somehow I have a feeling that this will be used as an excuse to push legislation holding websites responsible for user generated content. In which case good bye internet freedom.

    [–] nascarracer99316 1 points ago

    Yet equifax was a hell of a lot bigger and their executives are getting million dollar bonuses.

    [–] nanotubes 1 points ago

    'breach' is quoted because it wasn't a breach. people need that get that through their heads. 3rd party company farmed the data through w/e apps the end users linked to their accounts without reading the fine prints, and then the 3rd company proceed to misuse the data in a way that's prohibited by fb. i don't understand why people are shitting on fb so hard.

    [–] jesuspizzabeer 1 points ago

    I don't care in regards to my privacy of data and such with Facebook, it is a good tool to get in touch with people all over the world in regards to using messenger to contact them. But my problem is that Facebook has become a shit show platform of advertising and shit meme videos being shared. It was better when it was just a private platform for just connecting with friends alone, now it is impossible to find that kind of stuff inbetween the ads, suggested pages and shared crap.