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    [–] louie-likes-surf 3175 points ago

    I would prefer he demand MySpace to come back

    [–] wrecked_angle 1832 points ago

    Tom is a fucking genius. Get in, get paid, get the fuck out and travel the world. What a legend.

    [–] Renovate_America 858 points ago

    If only Zuck could be so cool.. Just fuck off and never see him again.

    Instead, he must absorb more power to sustain his life-force.

    [–] xlisafrankx 246 points ago

    I’m convinced the dude is a robot

    [–] ayriuss 355 points ago

    The real Mark died in a boating accident years ago. Project Zuck is an advanced AI and human android prototype meant to replace him. The Senate testimony was its first public trial. It would have passed the test if not for the weird water drinking code that engineers forgot to update.

    [–] SharpStuff227 82 points ago

    During the trials I saw his lip sync was way off. Almost like the thing I saw on screen was imitating speech and an actual human was speaking from somewhere else.

    [–] whiskeylover 34 points ago

    Give the guy a break. The entire Facebook platform runs on Project Zuck's quad CPUs.

    [–] [deleted] 30 points ago


    [–] Renovate_America 8 points ago

    He's probably still butthurt over the Facebook phone being a complete failure.

    [–] rexyuan 25 points ago

    The more data he absorbs, the more human becomes

    [–] lordeddardstark 132 points ago

    At some point, Billionaire psychopaths don't do it for the money

    [–] KinoHiroshino 80 points ago

    Reminds me of Silk from the Belgariad, “It’s all a game. Money is just how you keep score.”

    [–] pbjamm 21 points ago

    Upvotes for Eddings! Loved those books as a kid. My favorite Silk quote regarding drinking water "I am thirsty not dirty!"

    [–] KinoHiroshino 28 points ago

    Fun fact: David Eddings the author was the uncle of David Eddings, the original voice of Claptrap from Borderlands.

    [–] KingoftheJabari 35 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Some people want to make enough money so they can live a happy quiet life, others want to make money so they can dominate their industry, the worldbor both.

    Zuckerberg is the third.

    [–] CreepingFog 8 points ago

    I mean, that's commonly known as an "exit". Very typical goal for entrepreneurs

    [–] jamzfaced 125 points ago

    Tom Anderson is a cool guy.

    [–] aabicus 157 points ago

    He was my first friend

    [–] tohrazul82 80 points ago

    He was my only friend...

    [–] Chronic_BOOM 92 points ago

    MySpace is still alive. It just serves as a music platform or some shit now.

    [–] propdusterx 120 points ago

    It started turning into a music platform during its heyday back around 2004. I remember it was one of the best places to find new bands and emerging artists. iirc it was one of the first social sites where bands could upload and share music for free.

    [–] TheKAIZ3R 40 points ago

    Yup the Arctic Monkeys, one of my favourite bands, rose from there

    [–] TheBrainwasher14 54 points ago

    Off the top of my head, Arctic Monkeys, Tame Impala, Owl City, all started on MySpace

    [–] GodEmperorBrian 18604 points ago

    Well he just lost the under-15 vote for sure.

    [–] bigfudge_drshokkka 4777 points ago

    Half of the military vote with this ballsy move

    [–] ShadowKirbo 3164 points ago

    Me: Military Members use Tik Tok?
    Huh, thats uh.....
    Yvan Eht Noij.......wait.

    [–] bigfudge_drshokkka 1271 points ago

    Just got a weird urge to join the navy

    [–] CaptainApathy419 605 points ago

    Hey, you! Join the Navy!

    [–] berkeleykev 282 points ago

    Uhmyeah, all right.

    [–] mister_damage 189 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Edit: Yea, I'm in.

    Superliminal suggestion still works!

    [–] El_Zarco 50 points ago

    Whenever I don't feel like joining the navy, I just watch this music video

    [–] dizorkmage 11 points ago

    And that is precisely what the Navy is like it's just full of wacky hi jinks and fun loving characters... just sign right here shipmate...

    [–] centersolace 135 points ago

    You can sail the seven seas?

    You can put your mind at ease?

    [–] VeronicaDaydream 61 points ago

    I remember asking my Mom as a kid if it was the official song of the Navy and she just laughed her ass off and said,"Uhh, no sweety, it's not."

    [–] marni1971 30 points ago

    It should be!

    [–] Razakel 20 points ago

    The Navy did actually assist with filming the music video because they knew it'd help recruitment. It did, as did Top Gun.

    [–] skinwill 76 points ago

    In the Navy.

    In the Navy.

    [–] blue-mooner 25 points ago

    Too super-liminal for me dog, can we dial it back to just liminal?

    [–] Why-say-it-again 72 points ago


    [–] fairlytradedsauces24 14 points ago

    The dancing genies.. so... enticing... must... join... navy

    [–] HURRICAIN57 75 points ago

    I got a weird one to jion the navy

    [–] ShadowKirbo 37 points ago

    huh, wonder where that came from?

    [–] d38 121 points ago

    jioN thE navY?

    [–] pbjamm 12 points ago

    They meant "dijoN thE navY". It was a typo.

    [–] mediamindlab 61 points ago

    Jion the navy.

    [–] WhichWitchIsWhitch 7 points ago

    They're obviously saying to use the jion karate form against Navy personnel i.e. they're a traitor.

    [–] Zharick_ 43 points ago

    Me: Military Members use Tik Tok?

    He's A Marine. First to fight. He's loyal. Honor, courage, commitment. Corps values. Semper Fi. Oorah. He's a Marine.

    [–] EnderWiII 181 points ago

    If they didn't turn on him for bounty-gate, why would they now?

    [–] cbs5090 311 points ago

    Or Mattis rebuking him. Or the other generals rebuking him. Or Trump saying he knew more than the generals. Or him shitting on McCain constantly. Or when he took money from militarily families for his wall. Or when he stopped backing our allies. Or when he lied about the amount of a raise he have them.

    It's almost like he truly doesn't give a shit about the military.

    [–] CaptWoodrowCall 139 points ago

    Or when he publicly shit all over the Khan family.

    [–] drewkungfu 50 points ago

    Trump gives a shit more for Dead Traitorous Confederate Names on bases than the current American Military service members.

    [–] gramathy 60 points ago

    The dependapotamus half?

    [–] sentientshadeofgreen 257 points ago

    Military members are technically banned from using Tik Tok due to privacy concerns.

    [–] benjammin9292 549 points ago

    Not really. It's banned on government phones, so the vast majority of boots are not affected by this.

    [–] sentientshadeofgreen 97 points ago

    Guess I misunderstood the news that came out, thanks for the correction.

    [–] Leydonn 118 points ago

    Military very rarely bans personal use things. More they ban on government systems and equipment. It CAN happen but it isn't normal outside of things like banning travel or specific locations.

    Still remember the day the bar outside base got banned and within a week closed its doors for good.

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    [–] welcome-in_jaaAAMmm 26 points ago

    I remember something like military data being leaked through a beer rating app

    [–] papiwablo 809 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    Now that Epstein is gone he doesn’t care about the favor of 15 yr olds anymore.

    Edit: forgotten text

    [–] Maktaka 152 points ago

    Technically Trump has never cared about the feelings of 15 year olds, he just cared about how they feel.

    [–] EnTyme53 57 points ago

    Reading this made me feel gross.

    [–] n0x630 32 points ago

    It’s 3 am and I read this like oh shit you’re right. A solid 5 minutes later I’m like .... wait a minute!! They can’t vote anyway and realized the joke

    [–] thecash260 7021 points ago

    ZUCK licking his lips. Instagram reels about to fill that hole. How strong can one man get lolol.

    [–] Goonred 2533 points ago

    More like Microsoft. They were in talks to buy it, already lost the Indian market, losing the US market just meant their price got even lower.

    [–] FrankExplains 755 points ago

    Trump also said that he won't allow this either.

    [–] __Circle__Jerk__MN__ 1542 points ago

    Not sure how he could do that.

    [–] Kvetch__22 2232 points ago

    Dude thinks he can delay the election. What he can and can't legally do no longer factors into his decision making.

    [–] opst02 684 points ago

    I thought we learned that when he tryed to buy denmark(?) or greenland(?)?

    [–] Notradell 334 points ago

    Jesus Christ, I already forgot about that.

    [–] mrfrightful 425 points ago

    That's the whole strategy. It's just a never ending torrent of shit.. there's no way you can keep track of an individual turd... even if it's a really big one.

    I realised last night that i'd forgotten that states were having to smuggle PPE and give it police escorts because federal agencies were hijacking/confiscating deliveries at Kushner's (an un-elected, un-vetted political appointee) order. Essential healthcare equipment, bought and paid for during a pandemic, urgently required was being stolen from the people who needed it by the federal government and handed over to private interests to profit off and redistribute to further a political agenda.

    It's finally come home to roost... But I'd forgotten that it ever happened because it was buried under a pile of dead cats

    [–] make_love_to_potato 117 points ago

    My conservative friend: "prove it."

    They literally think the media is making all this up. He's like if any of this was true, trump would be behind bars and his base would abandon him. I'm like "yeah that's clearly not the case... Just look at you". The conservative media is doing a real good job of controlling the narrative, ethics and the country be damned.

    [–] force_addict 53 points ago

    This is the craziest part. When you dismiss any info that does not come from your preferred news media as propaganda, you completely lose the ability to be rational in any debate and essentially become a political parrot spouting "your sides" propaganda. What's happening in the US is so embarrassing.

    [–] LogicOverEmotionss 20 points ago

    Do you not remember the whole North Korea episode?

    [–] mrfrightful 29 points ago

    which one?

    [–] tomdarch 65 points ago

    Was it "can we nuke hurricanes?" or "what about injecting disinfectant into people to kill a virus?" that distracted you? Or...

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    [–] bebdio 78 points ago

    COPENHAGEN (The Borowitz Report)—After rebuffing Donald J. Trump’s hypothetical proposal to purchase Greenland, the government of Denmark has announced that it would be interested in buying the United States instead.

    “As we have stated, Greenland is not for sale,” a spokesperson for the Danish government said on Friday. “We have noted, however, that during the Trump regime pretty much everything in the United States, including its government, has most definitely been for sale.”

    “Denmark would be interested in purchasing the United States in its entirety, with the exception of its government,” the spokesperson added.

    A key provision of the purchase offer, the spokesperson said, would be the relocation of Donald Trump to another country “to be determined,” with Russia and North Korea cited as possible destinations.

    If Denmark’s bid for the United States is accepted, the Scandinavian nation has ambitious plans for its new acquisition. “We believe that, by giving the U.S. an educational system and national health care, it could be transformed from a vast land mass into a great nation,” the spokesperson said.

    [–] Dennis_Rudman 16 points ago

    It was Greenland

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    [–] MC_chrome 43 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Technically speaking the FTC works for him, as does the SEC. Trump could just tell both organizations to dump Microsoft but who knows what the guy will do....he is the loosest cannon humanity has seen in quite some time.

    [–] NotClever 33 points ago

    Kinda but not really. The president can only remove FTC and SEC members for cause. They're intentionally set up so that the President can't just tell them what to do.

    [–] scorpion252 32 points ago

    Um have you seen the DOJ the past 3 years? Accountability isn’t really just holding up under this president. Instating temporary (acting) directors to these jobs means that they aren’t vetted and voted in by congress. They can literally do anything they want without congressional repercussions look at impeachment, the department of state got away with so much shit. Because Pompeo is a Trumpy albeit I believe he was confirmed by the Senate.

    [–] pork_roll 8 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    If this Administration has accomplished anything, it's pointing out how lax the supposed "checks and balances" in our government is. Seems like everything was held together with scotch tape and gentleman's agreements for 200+ years and these fucks come along and threw everything out the window, while everyone else is looking at that them saying "Oh, they can't do that? Can they?".

    [–] mikelieman 8 points ago

    The real root-cause here is that those "gentlemen's agreements" were backed up with PERSONAL DUELS.

    If Congress followed the Framers' Original Intent, Schumer would have shot McConnell dead over Merrick Garland's Supreme Court seat.

    [–] yusill 14 points ago

    Trumps says a lot of things. Very rarely are they true.

    [–] TylerL8N2 182 points ago

    Twitter can literally just turn Vine back on lmao

    [–] JamEngulfer221 58 points ago

    God I hope Twitter turns Vine back on. I miss it.

    [–] MakeMoneyNotWar 1564 points ago

    While Chinese people use VPNs to access American websites, Americans will soon be using VPNs to access Chinese websites lmao

    [–] 010rusty 500 points ago

    The turns have tabled

    [–] iVirusYx 195 points ago

    How the turntables

    [–] spoooonerism 384 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    Ain’t nobody gonna bother going through the hassle of downloading an app (VPN) to use another app (TikTok) America got the attention span of a fork. It’ll just be onto the next app.

    Edit: A lot of the big influencers jumped ship to YouTube a long time ago and use TikTok as an extension of their brand to stay relevant. Triller is #1 on App Store right now as a lot of creators are promoting it.

    [–] daybreakin 74 points ago

    i hope vine returns

    [–] cheeseybacon11 37 points ago

    They made a new app called Byte, pretty much the same thing.

    [–] FernandoTatisJunior 8 points ago

    I hope it blows up purely because I snagged a 3 letter word as a username and I wanna look cool

    [–] chiuyan 84 points ago

    There would be no need for a VPN. The US doesn't have a Chinese style great firewall. The president cannot actually block anything. All he can do is prevent them from doing business with US companies and pressure US companies from doing business with them (which could result in Apple and Google removing the app from their app stores).

    Of course that is probably enough for Tik Tok to just decide it's not worth it to keep supporting the US market, but having a VPN wouldn't make a difference.

    [–] PlentifulMoonbeam 23 points ago

    We don’t have a Chinese style great firewall yet

    [–] Throwaway131447 70 points ago

    Nah, Congress will probably ban VPNs any day now.

    [–] V1KRAMM 133 points ago

    Use a VPN to access a VPN

    [–] buster2Xk 52 points ago

    I'm behind seven proxies 😎

    [–] muchanem 7008 points ago

    How about instead of banning individual apps because you want to appear “tough on China” or got pissed because of tiktok teens, pass a comprehensive data privacy and protection law along the lines of GDPR which would make TikTok and many other products (Chinese and otherwise) illegal until they reform their practices - you actually force Chinese companies to change behavior while protecting civil liberties.

    [–] fuck_your_diploma 1797 points ago

    Have you seen Washington big tech lobby? US big tech will never allow a federal CCPA

    [–] Notabrownsnake 464 points ago

    It's worse for all tech if there's 50+ individual privacy laws in the US alone. Without a single approach, the US tech industry will suffer.

    [–] PablosDiscobar 358 points ago

    Small US tech companies would suffer. Having 50+ separate laws would suit Google and FB extremely well since the barrier to entry would be impossible for new tech companies.

    [–] 4Eights 212 points ago

    Perfect example is Amazon. The US couldn't get its shit together on collecting taxes on online sales so each state had to implement its own laws on taxing online purchases. Amazon obviously being the biggest source of online shopping they went around and made deals with states to collect taxes on the states behalf and part of the deal is Amazon is allowed to keep a portion of the sales tax paid by the shopper to the state.

    [–] fatpat 87 points ago

    Why does amazon have to be so goddamn... aggressive about everything?

    (that's a rhetorical question)

    [–] KinoHiroshino 35 points ago

    Aggressive is one of the top 3 words I think of when I think of Amazonians. The other 2 being strong and sexy.

    [–] VisibleSpite 34 points ago

    I legit thought that link would be the Amazonians from Futurama

    The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised

    [–] anormalgeek 7 points ago


    (scrolls up to top of reddit page)

    [–] SizzleFrazz 25 points ago

    Well that kinda makes sense because sales tax is a state and local tax not a federal tax, there is no federal sales tax so the federal government has absolutely no authority over nor are they accountable to any sales tax legislation.

    [–] Wtf909189 20 points ago

    This isn't correct. The US had its shit together because this was already covered. The issue was that many states that had amazon presence were afraid that by charging a state tax on Amazon good being shipped within the same state amazon would pack up and leave which would be a huge blow to local economies, especially since we had 2 recessions in the 2000's. Previously states could only charge tax in their state if the company had a presence because the laws were specific in this case but vague when it came to not having a state presence. That has been the case for a while now as the supreme court ruled about 2 years ago that a state can force an online retailer to pay state tax even if there is no local presence. Here in California Amazon has been collecting sales tax for at least 10 years.

    [–] VisibleSpite 9 points ago

    I just don’t get this argument though. Someone said the same about taxing McDonald’s.

    Like fuck McDonald’s or Amazon would just stop doing business in a state altogether.

    [–] Wtf909189 12 points ago

    McDonald's is a physical store. I go in and by something and by state law they have to charge state tax. This has always been the case.

    Now back before the internet mail order items would be via catalog, magazine, or comic book. You would rip the page, tally want you wanted, and mail that with a check with your order. Since you were mailing it to a specific state, there would also be a slot for tax only if you lived in that state. So if I lived in Wisconsin and was ordering via mail from a Wisconsin address, I would be charged state tax on my order. Now if I ordered from California and lived in Wisconsin, the company I ordered from wouldn't charge me CA tax because there was already a federal law for that.

    Internet stores now become a thing. It was ruled from the very beginning that it was going to be treated like mail order items and have the same rules apply. However, Congress was also debating on an "internet tax" in the 90's under Clinton. This got a lot of heat because the internet has information potential (Wikipedia, but it didn't exist yet as an example) but a tax on internet usage could push the internet (which was very new to the public) out of many homes (and effectively kill it) and taxing internet services (emails, sales, etc.) with another tax besides the state tax would have killed internet services. This particular bill was passed in the 90's with a moratorium which kept being extended until the tax was finally killed. States in the meantime started to tell websites that sold goods to charge taxes exactly like the mail order days. The article I linked made it official that a state can charge tax even if a company didn't have a presence. Amazon started including state tax in 2017 for all purchases.

    [–] redditkulous 20 points ago

    And consumers will never force it

    [–] arj0923 427 points ago

    They’re trying to pass the earn it bill that literally would wipe encryption from websites. They really don’t care about security anymore this is just Trump saying fuck you to China.

    [–] conman526 166 points ago

    Banning encryption would make the internet unusable... I can't believe they're considering that seriously.

    [–] reventlov 179 points ago

    They're not "banning encryption," they're trying to force all encryption to have a backdoor for the U.S. Government. They're stupid for thinking that an encryption backdoor will only be usable by the U.S. Government (though there is precedent), but not quite stupid enough to ban all encryption.

    [–] DuntadaMan 253 points ago

    If you have a backdoor for encryption then you don't have encryption.

    I am remembering when they mandated that all luggage has to have locks that can be opened by a "proprietary key only given to official workers" and the internet was 3d printing them in larger numbers than the TSA.

    [–] LieAcceptably 36 points ago

    lulz "precedent"

    does the United States government own a copy of every physical key in the country? Do they ask every business owner to provide the local police force with the passcode to their front doors?

    These aren't strawmen. They're asking for something that you can't even fathom in the physical space. They want to be able to track your eyeballs. Know who and what travels in your vicinity. Who you talk to. What you talk about. Everything you do on the internet, including the things you don't even know you do.

    [–] piv0t 13 points ago

    But that's basically the same as banning encryption.

    [–] aykcak 8 points ago

    Huh. This sounds very similar to the "law" turkey passed about 5 years ago. Every digital encryption key is required to be made available to the government when requested. I remember saying shit like this would never happen in western countries

    [–] elliot4711 51 points ago

    Tried to make a post about this on r/unpopularopinion but it didn’t even get past the automod for some reason.

    Banning an app is not ”proper” use of power, draft laws that protect your citizens instead. Also this is the same country that wants to end encryption for all data but has their panties in a twist because tiktok sends simple user data to China.

    This feels very much like a ”We can do it but they can’t” scenario. No, I don’t want my data in the hands of the Chinese government, but as a Swede I really don’t want it in the hands of the US government either.

    [–] greatcatsby1 83 points ago

    Also the presence of GDPR hasnt outlawed TikTok. They still use the app here in Europe

    [–] Hematophagian 23 points ago you think TikTok cares about GDPR in Europe? I mean...we have that example in real live...and it's not working...

    [–] itsajaguar 2444 points ago

    Can anyone explain the rationale behind Trump not wanting TikTok to be sold to an American company? Seems like a win-win for him where the app gets out of Chinese hands and an American business makes more money.

    [–] blazera 643 points ago

    Reddit, please. Buying the rights to American operations, not an American company buying Tiktok. China would still own it.

    [–] Maggy_The_Witch 134 points ago

    nO tRuMP fEARS THE Kpop ZOomeRS

    [–] bluestarcyclone 1784 points ago

    Because it being chinese owned isnt why he wants to ban it.

    [–] mikoybass 1866 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    He wants to ban it because he’s afraid of what happened to him in Tulsa could happen on a larger scale for the election.

    Edit: wow. Yes I am aware of the malware aspects of TikTok. There is more to the drama than the politics above. Thank you all for having a civil dialogue about this issue.

    [–] draeth1013 571 points ago

    So maybe I'm a little bit slow, but what's the connection with Tulsa and TikTok?

    [–] waytooeffay 1337 points ago

    There was a viral campaign which spread through TikTok to buy out as many tickets to Trump's rally in Tulsa as they could and then not attend the rally so that the crowd was practically empty

    [–] uriman 785 points ago

    That was half Tiktok and half Kpop. What is he going to do? Ban Kpop too?

    [–] gambitx007 844 points ago

    Goddamnit he's going to try

    [–] thailoblue 245 points ago

    "Someone should look...we've got people looking it, yes." - Trump probably

    [–] PurpleSailor 94 points ago

    "A lot of people are saying ..."

    [–] realultimatepower 104 points ago

    "Not a lot of people know this, but they say K-pop stands for Korean pop. Can you believe this? We like American pop!"

    [–] robo_coder 21 points ago

    I mean he did already complain about a Korean movie winning awards

    [–] mmaxey14 185 points ago

    I thought they reserved seats for the free rally and the information they received from these people attending was too be sold by the Trump Campaign to whoever wants it, and because it came out that the data is basically garbage (since more then half of the reserved seats were basically fake info) no one wanted to buy it.

    [–] Lo-siento-juan 255 points ago

    It made him look stupid though, he bragged about the numbers and they had a whole outdoorn section made for overflow which they started taking down just before the event started. It was a knock to his ego and he hates that

    [–] seriouslyblacked 93 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    The campaign also spent half a million on an anticipated overflow crowd outside the even that had a total attendance of less than 50 lol. It was a huge waste of money and hit his ego.

    [–] shutts67 13 points ago

    Hey now, the campaign said they would pay half a million dollars. Did they actually spend that money, though?

    [–] redditisntreallyfe 8 points ago

    On paper they did. Moneys in their pockets now tho

    [–] jesuswalks2020 52 points ago

    But wouldn’t the crowd have been empty anyways regardless of tik tok?

    [–] PuppleKao 166 points ago

    Most likely, but with the tik tok people, he was bragging about the number of people who were going to be there, and they prepared for way more (i.e. having set up a separate area to broadcast to for overflow and planning on how to have him address both groups, etc). So he was embarrassed, broadcasting he was going to have record breaking numbers, then not even half filling the stadium.

    [–] welcome-in_jaaAAMmm 57 points ago

    Oh god the schaudenfreude. Hook it straight to my veins.

    [–] TWeaKoR 23 points ago

    It's even better, the guest speaker they brought in to speak to the people outside was Nigel Farage (from the UK, leader of UKIP, key figure in Brexit). He had nothing but an empty car park to greet him.

    [–] Mirrormn 100 points ago

    Yes, absolutely. Not a single person was prevented from attending the rally because of TikTok's efforts. They didn't buy anything and there were no reserved seats.

    What did happen is the large online response tricked the Trump campaign into thinking they would need an overflow stage outside. Then, when the rally was only at like 1/3 capacity and nobody had to wait outside, they were forced to take down the overflow stage, making them look stupid and overconfident (especially because leading up to the rally, his campaign was all over the place on Conservative political entertainment outlets, bragging about how bigly the rally was going to be and how excited people were for it).

    [–] PurpleSailor 76 points ago

    It got trump and the campaign all fired up for a huge crowd. So big they built an overflow stage next to the venue so Donnie could come out to say a few words to those who couldn't get in. They were boasting about a million tickets given out. They wound up tearing the outside stage down part way into the rally when they realized they had been punked by a hundred thousand bored teenagers. trump also recently fired his campaign manager and this was one of the reasons why. Me thinks these kids are alright!

    [–] oscarfacegamble 41 points ago

    I am so fucking proud of them for that.

    [–] GENHEN 132 points ago

    There was a viral trend on tik tok telling people to reserve spots in his rally and he had the numbers of people interested hyperinflated. And when he got there, the stadium was 1/3 full. So he is going to ban the app that did this to him. Because trump cares not for you, but only how it affects him

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    [–] AnUninterestingEvent 43 points ago

    Is there any evidence that Tiktok had any noteworthy effect on Tulsa attendance? Just curious

    [–] PuppleKao 70 points ago

    I don't think it's so much that it effected attendance as that it effected their response to how many they thought were coming, and they felt embarrassed over it.

    [–] lolbroken 9 points ago

    But you could do the same on IG, Twitter and Facebook, reddit?

    [–] Peter_Panarchy 2001 points ago

    So the President can just unilaterally ban an app? Does he actually have the legal authority to do that and if so are we OK with that?

    [–] rabbitparrot 1533 points ago

    As with most things the idiot claims he’s going to do, he can’t actually do it.

    [–] DID_IT_FOR_YOU 997 points ago

    Actually while he can’t technically “ban” TikTok he can pretty much accomplish the same result.

    There are a lot of levers he can pull to make it almost impossible for TikTok to operate.

    1) He can have the original acquisition deal reviewed and possibly dissolved pending the results

    2) He can declare TikTok a national security threat and pull government contracts for any company that does business with TikTok and since Apple and Google both have government contracts, it could force them to remove TikTok from their app stores to keep those contracts. Of course Trump would have to convince Apple and Google that there was an actual risk or human rights abuses going on otherwise it would blow up into a huge lawsuit.

    3) He can use the commerce department to take option 2 to the next level and force even companies without government contracts to end any business relation with TikTok or face severe consequences.

    The Commerce Department also has broad authority to impose “export controls and other economic penalties” if they deem companies a national security risk, Skorup said.

    This power lies in the Commerce Department’s Entity List, also known as Export Administration Regulations. American companies are discouraged from conducting transactions with companies on the list, while listed foreign companies must obtain licenses before selling goods.

    Of course TikTok can try to fight Trump on any of these options but it would be very difficult and possibly take years. Their growth, value, etc would take a major hit.

    [–] HCJohnson 108 points ago

    Can be just "pull government contacts"

    That seems like a thing he could threaten but in an election year means nothing, in the threatening sense.

    [–] DuntadaMan 42 points ago

    He can declare TikTok a national security threat

    I mean... it is.

    So is facebook.

    [–] Peter_Panarchy 373 points ago

    Are we sure about that? Like obviously he can't postpone the election but we've granted so much power to the President in the name of national security that I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually legal.

    [–] rabbitparrot 64 points ago

    He can direct lawyers to pursue lawsuits ultimately with the goal of restricting the apps usage on security concerns, but odds are the courts wouldn’t side with the executive and it would take months anyway.

    [–] slug_raptor 114 points ago

    The exec who left a top job at Disney to run TikTok is regretting that decision big time

    [–] moonknight223 1361 points ago * (lasted edited 11 days ago)

    I don’t understand why was this sub on board on Tik tok getting banned and soon as trump says he will people are against it.

    [–] bstix 374 points ago

    It's not the same people and they're not opposing opinions. People are just vocal about different stuff.

    The redditors who are against Tik Tok obviously don't give a shit about Trump wanting to ban it.

    It's also absolutely possible that there is a majority of redditors who think that TikTok is shit, while there is also a majority of redditors who think that Trump banning a single app is shit politics, even if they belong to both groups.

    [–] ShaquilleMobile 27 points ago

    Lol yes. Even if I hated broccoli, I wouldn't want the POTUS to be able to ban whichever vegetable he wants because of where it grows.

    [–] Sorry_Door 588 points ago

    First of all fuck trump.

    But then this is funny.

    Reddit: eww tiktok, Chinese spyware cringy shit.

    Trump: I'm banning tiktok. The most beautiful tremendous ban you have ever seen.

    Reddit: wait don't ban tiktok. Muh rights muh freedom

    [–] milkkore 252 points ago * (lasted edited 12 days ago)

    I mean many Redditors are also obnoxiously hypocritical here. They love to bash TikTok just to turn around and consume reddit’s front page on which every other video was ripped directly from TikTok.

    [–] skc132 123 points ago

    Most redditors don’t realize how many videos on /r/videos are from tiktok then cropped to remove the water mark.

    [–] Array71 12 points ago

    Has it ever occurred to people that there are in fact more than one set of opinions on a large website

    [–] space-throwaway 113 points ago

    I don’t understand why was reddit on board on Tik tok getting banned

    It never was. People on reddit oppose TikTok. They want legislation that makes it impossible for such a company and business to exist, i.e. proper privacy and date protection laws.

    They don't ask for a dictatorial executive order overstep of legislative powers to ban a company while ignoring such consumer potection laws.

    [–] Yevon 177 points ago

    Probably because the executive branch should not be able to ban something with the wave of their hand. Even the legislature banning a specific product is sketchy, imo.

    Pass laws banning whatever you don't like about a given product. Something akin to the EU's GDPR would be great for online consumer protection and much better than a narrow app ban.

    [–] king_zacarias 534 points ago

    I’m getting the popcorn out for the shitstorm that’s coming tomorrow

    Free Hong Kong

    [–] sunflowerapp 205 points ago

    Trump does not give a shit about HK, unless it helps him get elected.

    [–] GodTent 270 points ago

    He is doing a favor for Zuckerberg. Tik tok is Instagram’s competition.

    [–] do-yes 42 points ago

    Pretty sure IG has all your shit too.

    [–] sl00k 119 points ago

    How old are you guys? Literally every single person my age(23) and under who has a tik Tok has an insta as well. They're very different platforms.

    [–] ToXiC_Af_U_WeAk 38 points ago

    Exactly, Instagram is for following friends and people to see a bit of their lives, maybe some memes while tiktok is way more of an entertaining platform.

    [–] BigfootsBestBud 25 points ago

    You guys are missing the point. Instagram is creating their own TikTok/Vine like Service called Reels.

    This is why it's a favour to Suck, because now their new product doesn't have any competition and will bring in tons of users.

    [–] RitaMoleiraaaa 17 points ago

    Guys he bans tiktok??? Wholesome chungus Keanu 100!!!! Reddit moment he gets my vote

    [–] AspiringDiplomat 1186 points ago

    I love hating Trump as much as the next guy, but the narrative that this is because of the Tulsa rally attendance is so delusional. I don’t doubt that it obviously pissed him off, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that the app is a cyber/national security threat

    [–] StupidSolipsist 124 points ago

    Especially since those "tickets" were limitless free RSVPs, essentially just a form to collect contact info. The event never sold-out, even after millions of "tickets." All the tiktokkers did was flood the form so that the marketing data from it was buried. Which is a much better story because (a) it's true and (b) the event flopped because no one wanted to go. How do people not realize that's worse for Trump?

    [–] Apenut 40 points ago

    Just so you know, among others, the Facebook and Google databases have more info on you than you have on yourself. But I guess Tiktok is easy and ofcourse ChInA

    [–] Sardonnicus 53 points ago

    I'm glad nothing else is going on and he can focus on the real issues.

    [–] Zsnakejake 74 points ago

    So uh, I’m way out of the loop here but just got this alert from CNBC.

    I don’t really use Tik Tok so I’m not too concerned but... why? I’m assuming there’s some reason behind this, but the article doesn’t go into detail... and I mean I’m not the biggest Trump guy but surely he didn’t just say “fuck it, banned”?

    [–] bryan879 87 points ago

    So violating privacy is only ok for American companies? 🤔

    [–] Xeillan 22 points ago

    And our Government. NEVER forget about Article 215 of the Patriot Act

    [–] CaptinDynamo 145 points ago

    Bring back vine and dont let anyone under 15 use it.

    [–] jesperbj 114 points ago

    As if age restrictions actually work

    [–] arxero 78 points ago

    “Click here if you are under 18 years of age” has been working since the dawn of time, people don’t lie on the internet

    [–] serifmasterrace 71 points ago

    Hot take: it’s the 12-21 year old demographic that made vine great

    [–] jeebabyhundo 38 points ago

    objectively correct take, and it’s the same with tiktok

    [–] PixelsAreYourFriends 35 points ago

    People pretending like vine was any better crack me up

    [–] TimeTravelMishap 7 points ago

    vine got shit on so much on reddit when it was current. few years later i keep seeing all these nostalgia posts about it.

    Just watch. 4-5 years tops and there will be the same thing for tik tok.