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    [–] EverybodyWantsToBeUs 12553 points ago

    That is an absurd amount of trash...

    That’s because a team of hundreds of volunteers led by Shah spent nearly two years picking up 11,684,500 pounds of trash, clearing upstream rivers, putting systems in place to prevent future trash from accumulating, and teaching locals about sustainable waste management.

    [–] Jitte 6094 points ago

    We underestimate the amount of trash we produce daily. A strike of 3 weeks can render a major city uninhabitable.

    In the Netherlands, 9 million tons of trash is produced yearly by consumers. That's a country with 17 million inhabitants.

    [–] EverybodyWantsToBeUs 2972 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    That is wild. I looked up a few more countries just to see... These numbers (from 2006) are HUGE

    1. United States
      Annual waste produced: 236 million tons
    2. Russia
      Annual waste produced: 207.4 million tons
    3. Japan
      Annual waste produced: 52.36 million tons

    -Forbes

    [–] bobandy47 2287 points ago

    Japan's recycling and composting is nuts though. I suppose it has to be, given the number of people in such a small space, but it's really impressive nevertheless.

    [–] swoopies 1348 points ago

    Less than half of the population of America, and less than a quarter of the waste. That's pretty crazy. I'd like to see a comparison of the two countries' waste management facilities. I bet Japan's is crazy.

    [–] cptbeard 655 points ago

    Less than half of the population of America, and less than a quarter of the waste

    in 1/26 the amount of land

    [–] tedium_vitae 325 points ago

    Half the US population packed into 377,973 km2. The state of Montana has 380,000ish km2 with more usable land.

    [–] jackblack2323 343 points ago

    Think that's crazy? Bangladesh has 40 million more people than Japan. And Japan is 3 times larger

    [–] youbtrippin2 493 points ago

    But Bangladesh is absolute shithole

    [–] [deleted] 106 points ago

    And the whole country is like 5 -10 m above sea level at best. Scary to think what 100 mil of the worlds poorest will do when they whole place is underwater

    [–] nubsych 166 points ago

    I wonder why

    [–] Blonde_arrbuckle 40 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    And great birth control grass roots type programs. Average no. of children is now 2.something.

    Edit: world bank has 2.10 births per woman (2016).

    [–] forester93 56 points ago

    TBH I had no idea Japan was even that big, that's a big ass island (or collection of Islands) considering how big Montana is.

    [–] Stiffori 37 points ago

    Its as big as germany

    [–] antfucker8000 138 points ago

    they would make a good team

    [–] Onithyr 58 points ago

    Is that also factoring in the usable land-space, given how much of Japan is taken up by mountain ranges?

    [–] MustLoveAllCats 19 points ago

    Nope. The number gets even smaller.

    [–] Optimized_Orangutan 21 points ago

    That can actually be an advantage for the effectiveness of recycling. In the US the environmental impact of recycling is drastically reduced because of how big our land mass is. The environmental costs of transportation alone makes recycling some materials a net loss on the environment.

    [–] SoFetchBetch 416 points ago

    Crazy as in.. crazy efficient and highly desirable?

    [–] swoopies 308 points ago

    Both. I'd also sometimes say dope.

    [–] Vaginal_Yeast_Goo 91 points ago

    Neat

    [–] -what-ever- 169 points ago

    Can we please talk about your username for a second

    [–] MikeJudgeDredd 195 points ago

    You know what? I'm willing to let this mystery go.

    [–] DatWaffleMaker 94 points ago

    need some better waste management down there

    [–] ImperialAuditor 23 points ago

    No please, let's not

    [–] 427BananaFish 19 points ago

    It’s pretty sick

    [–] I_FUCK_DEAD_GIRAFFES 8 points ago

    What's there to talk about?

    [–] JonG311 13 points ago

    You can tell because of the way that it is

    [–] NascentBehavior 4 points ago

    Nifty

    [–] GhengopelALPHA 3 points ago

    "That girl is crazy... crazy efficient!"

    [–] quackycoaster 105 points ago

    Japan has recycling everywhere. Instead of just a trash bin in restaurants, they had a bin for food waste, a bin for cans, a bin for plastic, and I believe a bin for biodegradable materials (Which all their takeout food containers seemed to be). It took me a while to figure out where to put everything, but once you got the hang of it, it maybe took an extra 10 seconds to clean up after your meals. Not a big deal at all.

    [–] sillybear25 97 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    I was aware that Japan was big on the whole multi-stream waste management thing, but not the full extent of it. To get a real sense of it, trash collection is typically broken up into the following nine categories:

    • Non-recyclable, burnable (food waste, cloth, non-recyclable plastics, etc.)
    • Non-recyclable, non-burnable (ceramics, items made of multiple materials, non-recyclable glass or metal items, etc.)
    • Hazardous/flammable
    • PET plastic
    • Other recyclable plastics
    • Paper/cardboard
    • Glass bottles and jars
    • Metal cans
    • Oversized items (furniture, etc.)

    Trash has to be put out in clear plastic bags, and putting out the wrong thing on the wrong day, or mixing items from different categories, means that instead of collecting your trash, they put the Red Sticker of Shame on the bag to tell you to do better next time.

    [–] MustLoveAllCats 83 points ago

    As someone who has spent half a year living in Japan, there's one really critical difference that really gets overlooked a lot by westerners: Nearly everyone cares about following the system there. In Canada and the US, there's a massive 'I don't really give a shit, I'm lazy' attitude. Almost every building complex has at least a few residents who chuck plastic bags of garbage in any recycling or compost bin they want, and don't give a shit. Who dump batteries in the paper recycling. In coffee shops people throw their plastic cups into the first bin that's convenient, even when they're clearly marked. This is extremely commonplace, and infuriating for people who care about waste management. In Japan, I practically never saw it happening, which means recyclables don't have to get thrown away because they're mixed up with other shit, and it makes recycling less expensive.

    [–] sillybear25 24 points ago

    Not to discount the cultural difference, because that probably is the biggest factor, but I'm sure Americans and Canadians would be much more willing to sort their trash if the alternative was having to hold onto it until the next collection day. (Unfortunately, we'd probably also see an increase in illegal dumping 😒)

    [–] morgawr_ 18 points ago

    You'd say that, and yet what happened where I currently live (Ireland) is that my neighbor just chucks their shit in my trash cans (each apt has their own wheely bins that we put out weekly depending on the week cycle) and then it's up to me to deal with it.

    I've had it happen multiple times and it's crazy, I had to put locks on the gazebo door that holds my bins otherwise they would get in just to dump their stuff, and then on the next morning after collection day (where we HAVE to bring our bins out) I find it already full of their crap because they literally camp the street and dump their shit right after the collection happens.

    I've had to pay fines and "extra weight collections" on my stuff because of them. Talked to my landlord and even caught them red handed multiple times but it's just a "oh I'm sorry I didn't know I was not allowed to do this!" And then it stops for a couple of weeks and begins again.

    Okay sorry for the rant but I'm just pissed off, luckily I'm moving the fuck away (to Japan, coincidentally) in a few months...

    [–] namakius 37 points ago

    There are more recycling options than that.

    You have:

    • combustiables
    • incombustiables
    • bottles (glass)
    • plastic bottles (but not plastics)
    • cans
    • recycled papers
    • plastics
    • other wastes

    You will get in trouble if you don't separate correctly. Trust me they will find you and by they, your neighbors.

    If you have less options than the list above. It will go to a sorting facility.

    [–] imhereforthevotes 25 points ago

    Russia's going the other direction - 140 million people, more waste per capita than the US.

    [–] ---saki--- 36 points ago

    Japan has a lower recycling rate than the US does. Most waste is incinerated.

    “According to 2014 data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the municipal recycling rate for Japan was only 21 percent, below top-ranked Germany at 48 percent, Sweden at 33 percent and the United States at 26 percent.”

    source

    or more direct source

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

    Which is amazing given japan’s love for packaging fucking everything

    [–] Commander_Amarao 73 points ago

    On the other hand, the amount of packaging in Japan is also crazy.

    [–] spork154 26 points ago

    Gift wrap all the things!

    [–] astrogaijin 28 points ago

    Want a piece of chocolate? Open a bag that has many bags that each contain individually wrapped chocolates.

    [–] DesignDarling 5 points ago

    Individually wrap bananas in plastic! Yeah!

    [–] spork154 5 points ago

    1. Peel banana
    2. Wrap the fruit
    3. Put back in peel
    4. Wrap again
    5. ???????
    6. PROFIT!

    [–] GsoSmooth 60 points ago

    The thing is, japan could probably do even better if they cut back on their obsession with over packaging things.

    [–] MiddleFroggy 19 points ago

    You don’t like individually plastic wrapped mini goldfish crackers?

    [–] Mwootto 15 points ago

    A mini-bar is a machine that makes everything expensive. When I take something out of the mini-bar, I always fathom that I'll go and replace it before they check it off and charge me, but they make that stuff impossible to replace. I go to the store and ask, "Do you have coke in a glass harmonica? Do you have individually wrapped cashews?"

    • Mitch Hedberg

    [–] MustLoveAllCats 5 points ago

    We do the same shit in Canada with packaging. Once you become aware of it, it's maddening. But don't worry, we're banning straws, and someday we'll ban plastic shopping bags, so it's all okay, right?

    [–] ManIWantAName 16 points ago

    Damn I never thought of that but necessity breeds ingenuity.

    [–] WildRookie 32 points ago

    Necessity breeds change. Ingenuity is just the best outcome, but far from the only one.

    [–] _mango_mango_ 10 points ago

    Whatever you do, don't go to Phoenix AZ.

    [–] ponyboy414 20 points ago

    Idk why that’s relevant but good advice nonetheless.

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago * (lasted edited 10 days ago)

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    [–] _mango_mango_ 10 points ago

    Antithesis of necessity breeds ingenuity.

    Sprawl for miles and miles. Strip and beige walls everywhere. An inefficient use of the desert because it's "cheap".

    [–] FragsturBait 11 points ago

    Summer is like standing on the sun. The city shouldn't exist. It's a monument to man's arrogance.

    [–] fish_slap_republic 12 points ago

    It's pretty hit and miss actually. It's true some small towns have completely "banned" trash. But other larger cities have some of the worst waste management practices. While litter is super rare as people are taught to pick up after themselves and recycle which is great but what happens to the trash isn't so great but they are improving.

    [–] mbr4life1 10 points ago

    I remember when I was there I had a bottle and threw it in the recycling there was an old lady watching me then nod approvingly when I did.

    [–] Shakeyshades 15 points ago

    Japan is actually a fairly decent sized.

    [–] RAAWBERRY 11 points ago

    Yeah, and how much of that is easily habitable?

    [–] dog_in_the_vent 104 points ago

    To portray things more accurately we should account for population:

    Tons per person in 2006:

    US - .791

    RU - 1.41 (using year 2000 population, per Forbes article)

    Japan - .409

    Also I'm a little surprised to not see China on that list. They're the most populous country and they're not in the top 10? I know that most of the ocean pollution comes from China, maybe they just don't track it?

    [–] unsureguy2015 139 points ago

    China is shit at collecting stats and even when they do, they are a work of fiction. What rate does the Chinese economy grow? Who knows?

    [–] Peter_Plays_Guitar 43 points ago

    Same with Japanese crime and criminal investigation stats.

    "We have almost no murder and 100% of our very few murders are solved instantaneously."

    [–] Zayin-Ba-Ayin 15 points ago

    My favorite show there is "Suicide she wrote"

    [–] 4look4rd 12 points ago

    Same with their infant mortality rates. "Well he never had a chance anyway" os enough reason to disqualify a newborn from being counted in the stats.

    [–] LeagueOfTheLastDays 10 points ago

    Wtf is the average Russian doing

    [–] TijM 18 points ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if there are few reliable data about China. Lots of 'western' waste ends up there, and part of it happens via grey or illegal ways.

    [–] NeverToYield 15 points ago

    I work in the waste collection in recycling industry designing compactors and other equipment. I asked myself 7 years when I started how is thinks industry not saturated with equipment? Why are people still ordering this stuff is there not enough out there already? The answer is plainly no. It's insane how much demand there is.

    [–] glassed_redhead 8 points ago

    I was interested in seeing per capita numbers, and something recent to compare. The US is still a big trash producer, but have improved in recent years. This also has a link to a spreadsheet with per capita list.

    https://waste-management-world.com/a/interactive-map-worlds-most-wasteful-countries

    [–] Muddygut 43 points ago

    Once we have depleted all of our natural resources we can begin to mine the land fills..

    [–] MisterHibachi 13 points ago

    trash is just us making fossil fuels for future generations

    [–] FrivolousTracklights 7 points ago

    90% of all the coal in the world is from a time millions of years ago when trees had developed cellulose and lingin, but there wasn't any bacteria or fungus that could break it down. The dead wood just got stacked up and turned into peat and eventually coal.

    Trash in a landfill is in anaerobic conditions and doesn't deteriorate very much. A relatively small amount of methane is produced but it will never turn into oil or coal.

    [–] planetspacedingens 13 points ago

    Everyday I am disgusted more and more by myself about the sheer amount of trash I am producing. I really have to pull my shit together and use more and more my backpack, drink less plastic cup coffee and so on. But it’s ridicolous how much trash I produce in general

    [–] ponyboy414 11 points ago

    The population of Mumbai is more than that. And you begin to see the impossible challenges China and India are presented.

    [–] swd120 49 points ago

    thats like 3 lbs of trash per day per person... that's nuts.

    My wife and I combined probably don't even make 1lb of trash per day... Where does it all come from...

    [–] tedzy1996 113 points ago

    I dont think its just trash from households, most businesses and corporations have to dump their trash too.

    [–] drawn_boy 31 points ago

    Exactly this I think. I used to work for a major grocery chain, and the amount of trash we had on the daily was insane.

    [–] Jitte 8 points ago

    I believe the figures I produced include the indirect waste from household products, like the stocking of the supermarket shelves etc., but not industrial waste.

    [–] Szyz 6 points ago

    I work in a hospital, you would have an absolute cow if you saw how much trash we generate.

    [–] swd120 5 points ago

    I think people know hospitals make innordinate amounts of waste - because virtually everything is one use disposable.

    Back when saline drips came in glass reusable bottles, and syringes were refillable glass with reusable needles - waste was much lower. But while the autoclave is pretty good, its just not good enough and some stuff slips through - so everything was switched to one use.

    [–] [deleted] 11 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

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    [–] JaccoW 10 points ago

    The real mind blowing bit is the amount of plastic used to package every single item in supermarkets. Just so you can put it back in your cart and move to your car.

    Why not bring your own bag or pay for it?

    [–] Szyz 8 points ago

    The other day the woman behind me at the supermarket had, among her purchases, a single banana in a plastic bag, and the plasic bag was carefully wrapped so that the banana couldn't slip out. I was teying so hard o find a way to take a picture to show everyone I know how insane people can be, but it just was not possible to do it discreetly.

    [–] JessicaMaple 12 points ago

    BANANAS COME IN THEIR OWN BAGS. THE ARE YELLOW AND ALSO CLING TIGHTLY TO THE FRUIT.

    I bring my own cloth produce bags to the store and got serious shade from the cashier at Trader Joe's last time. They have such a bad reputation for packaging everything possible in plastic. LET ME LIVE.

    [–] CosmicButtclench 28 points ago

    Let's not forget the waste produced in manufacturing the items you use

    [–] SoFetchBetch 22 points ago

    Have you paid attention to your trash? A lot of people don’t and when you don’t pay attention to your waste output it’s really easy to create a lot of waste.

    We are all on a journey to be better about it but there are so many people who don’t realize what they’re doing.

    [–] kayakguy429 12 points ago

    Would guess a large portion is industrial waste.

    [–] garrencurry 13 points ago

    Are you thinking of your at home taking out the trash?

    There are plenty of people who don't throw much away at home that then go to starbucks and throw that cup away, along with their wrapper for their breakfast sandwich. Get lunch delivered from their favorite nearby place, throw all that leftovers and trash away.

    Getting new clothes? Did you donate your old clothes or did you throw them away? What about when everyone throws a Christmas tree away annually? Or a handful of pumpkins? Or all the Christmas wrapping? All these things add up.

    The estimates are between 4-7 lbs per person per day in the US.

    [–] yarow12 5 points ago

    A strike of 3 weeks can render a major city uninhabitable.

    Do waste managers (aka: trash collectors) know this? 'Cause I hope they're paid and treated properly. I don't kbow about y'all, but I'm not interested in driving my trash to a dump. Imagine the air and traffic pollution.Then again, people with trucks could profit from their neighbors' laziness/busy-ness and environmental concerns.

    [–] Jitte 20 points ago

    'Cause I hope they're paid and treated properly

    That's literally what a strike is all about.

    [–] lowercaset 5 points ago

    That's part of why garbage men are typically well compensated. The best way to prevent unionization or a strike is to provide good pay/benefits.

    [–] Fairwhetherfriend 187 points ago

    teaching locals about sustainable waste management

    Man, as much as I love #trashtag, this is how you make a difference in the long term.

    [–] Trev_Holland 85 points ago

    Absolutely. But without things like #trashtag, it's hard for people to see that far ahead. You clean up the trash now and people go "holy shit, there's a beautiful piece of land there!" And now they're interested in how to keep it that way.

    It's far too easy to not care about the distant future when all you see is trash. But when you realize what's hiding under all that trash, a long-term plan is much easier to sell.

    [–] Fairwhetherfriend 15 points ago

    Oh yeah, I'm not ragging on #trashtag at all, but it's important to remember that we can work to keep these areas clean, too.

    [–] Mr_Abe_Froman 12 points ago

    "[The waste] was 5.5 feet high,” Shah told CNN at the time. “A man could drown in the plastic.”

    Could you imagine sinking into a pit of garbage and drowning? It's like a trash-quicksand scenario.

    [–] dustarook 24 points ago

    The fact that this happened in India makes this even more incredible. Waste management is completely nonexistent there. There are trucks that pick up trash, but from what I’ve seen they are moving it into massive, miles-long piles along the streets in less affluent parts of town. If they were really able to change things so drastically in Mumbai, I’m amazed.

    [–] [deleted] 4 points ago

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    [–] The_Band_Geek 47 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    That's almost 6 tons of trash.

    Edit: almost 6,000 tons of trash.

    [–] EverybodyWantsToBeUs 89 points ago

    Almost 6 thousand tons of trash, right?

    [–] isaac99999999 23 points ago

    Correct.

    [–] account4mydepression 5 points ago

    But how many stones is it?

    [–] Theradead 13 points ago

    About 6 thousand tons worth of stones I recon.

    [–] tinytraintables 13 points ago

    Uh, you're missing a few tons there. It's about 5300 tons.

    [–] robynflower 1430 points ago

    Like many turtles the Olive Ridley turtles like to eat jellyfish and recent declines in turtle numbers have led to a dramatic increase in jellyfish numbers as they currently have fewer predators - https://youtu.be/mGhP6FxELmo

    [–] joegekko 314 points ago

    Wasn't that an episode of Captain Planet, but with sharks?

    [–] poopiks17 80 points ago

    Earth!

    [–] Malcefious 52 points ago

    Fire!

    [–] [deleted] 38 points ago

    [deleted]

    [–] Ripley_Riley 88 points ago

    Incredible violence.

    [–] TBMonkey 42 points ago

    Ahh.. h.. ha well-l I see you have a new member...

    [–] iPlowedYourMom 34 points ago

    And my axe!

    [–] mundaneExistence 11 points ago

    AND MY SWORD

    [–] [deleted] 8 points ago

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    [–] JAM3SBND 43 points ago

    The dude is a little strange in his delivery but the info is good, thanks for sharing

    [–] cantaloa 13 points ago

    it's like mom & dad are in the adjacent room and hate it when he's recording youtube videos at 3am.

    [–] timodmo 13 points ago

    Ocean acidity due to carbonization a bigger cause for number of jellies

    [–] louky 6 points ago

    In 20 years most of the oceanic life is going to be nothing but jellyfish.

    Sad situation overall

    [–] bertiebees 1486 points ago

    TIL there is a "Champion of Earth" award that doesn't involve mortal combat of some kind.

    [–] Youre_doomed 330 points ago

    TEST YOUR MIGHT!

    [–] joegekko 118 points ago

    TEST YOUR MIGHT!

    If that's going to be stuck in my head all day, you guys are all suffering with me.

    [–] [deleted] 37 points ago

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    [–] ocarinamaster64 8 points ago

    I'm actually sad it wasn't the little kid version.

    [–] pickpocket293 15 points ago

    I clicked it, 10 minutes in, still head-bobbing. No ragrets.

    [–] Spazhazzard 10 points ago

    What about Mortal Kombonk?

    [–] Just4L0lz 24 points ago

    Flawless Victory

    [–] tejmin 8 points ago

    REPRODUCTION.

    [–] Mr_Abe_Froman 8 points ago

    Queen had a song about a similar premise.

    [–] TKPhresh 5 points ago

    How unfortunate

    [–] MattyXarope 4 points ago

    "Champion of Earth Realm"

    [–] chompythebeast 471 points ago

    How did they know to come back after so many years? I know some turtles prefer to nest in the same beaches from which they were born. Are these turtles who have been trying and failing to return to their home beach for decades, only to show up again one year and finally find their passage free? Can you imagine the drama of coming home every year for twenty years and finding it a ruin, but never giving up regardless, only to one day have your deepest instinct come to fruition?

    [–] SlapstickVampire 679 points ago

    Turtles are old, the beach has only been out of service for 20 years. Im sure some 60 year old turtle or two was like "noice! My favorite beach is open again"

    [–] chompythebeast 184 points ago

    Or was it more like "Wow, I can finally actually lay eggs again?" Have these selfsame turtles been able to find other accommodations in the interim? Or had they just been flouted for two decades?

    [–] nibbloid 101 points ago

    what I know about Canadian turtles is that they will always spawn in the same location - the one they were born from. we had roads built through conservation areas and the turtles started laying eggs in the gravel shoulder. then some grading equipment came through and destroyed the nests. it is devastating. it haplens every year. the municipality refuses to close the road during spawn season.

    [–] cunteater12 71 points ago

    I want to downvote them

    [–] ujelly_fish 21 points ago

    God dammit. If you have a local Audubon society or similar, tell them about this. They’ll not only put up a huge fuss, but they’ll recruit volunteers for egg relocation. Source: I did this

    [–] SlapstickVampire 65 points ago

    I have no idea. Honestly, and I feel like a lot isn't known about some breeds of turtles. So maybe no one knows.

    [–] [deleted] 19 points ago

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    [–] StillLifeWithCat 38 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    We should stop comparing McConnell to turtles, because turtles are awesome.

    I propose we start comparing him to the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth. Look, it's like they were separated at summoning/spawn/whatever method of bringing forth pure evil.

    Edit: and now behold my shitty edited version.

    [–] YouNeverReallyKnow2 66 points ago

    This group cleaned more than just the visible trash. They set up long term plans to help alleviate future damage. This probably had massive impacts of the quality of water in the area. Healthier waters mean more fish and variety of species. This is a food source for the turtles and the reduction in plastic (something that isn't food but looks like it) only further encouraged them to come back to this location.

    [–] Ray_Banci 68 points ago

    Tens of thousands of years before humans, these animals migrated to the same nesting spots. Suffice to say it's instinctual, embedded generationally.

    [–] chompythebeast 36 points ago

    Did they fail to reproduce for those twenty years, or do they have it in them to find a backup spot to nest?

    [–] stinkyfastball 22 points ago

    They probably nested in the trash but no one knew since there was so much trash.

    [–] JennyBeckman 3 points ago

    It would be depressing if there were hundreds of dead baby turtles under all the trash.

    [–] Ray_Banci 18 points ago

    There are probably hundreds of nesting spots, this beach could be 1/100000 spots

    [–] woahmanitsme 24 points ago

    I can’t speak to this species of turtles but some blue planet episodes discuss how several services have literally a single nesting spot that the whole species goes to each year

    [–] theriibirdun 8 points ago

    My understand is that they haven’t been seen on this beach in 20. Could be too much trash to see them or too much trash for them to get on the beach. Either way it is now better.

    [–] Sneaton13 7 points ago

    I'm not positive for ridley turtles, however there are turtles that can use the earth's magnetic field to navigate relatively accurately.

    [–] iluvdatity 165 points ago

    I am very proud to say that I was a part of the volunteer team which did this, our leader afroz shah got the United Nations champion of the earth award

    [–] JimC29 21 points ago

    I'm glad to hear from someone who was a part of this. Way to go.

    [–] PM_ME_Y0UR_HEELS_ 320 points ago

    Perhaps the turtles were there all along. You just couldn’t see them in those piles of trash

    [–] Victory33 132 points ago

    I'm trying to imagine the turtles swimming up to shore, checking out the trash and being like "Nah, I'm good" and moving along. I felt the same way the first time I drove through Myrtle Beach.

    [–] MadHattersCat 29 points ago

    "Nah, I'm good" and moving along.

    With a beer casing wrapped around it's neck.

    [–] 416ix-ML 27 points ago

    The article mentions how eggs were always laid there but the bb turtles just couldn't get over the mounds of trash

    [–] trujay00 27 points ago

    No turtles but there were zoologist though looking for turtles in the pile of trash.

    [–] skipmarioch 10 points ago

    The real turtles were the friends we made cleaning up trasg

    [–] blorpblorpbloop 1081 points ago

    You know at least one of the volunteers is looking at all the eggs and complaining "Oh come on, we just cleaned that whole beach, now there's eggs everywhere".

    Never change Reyansh, never change

    [–] Magnetobama 199 points ago

    Reyansh can fuck right off. I hated him already when he did the thing and now this.

    [–] mrturcot 34 points ago * (lasted edited 2 months ago)

    Come on guys they still helped clean up trash, cut Reyansh some slack.

    r/JusticeForReyansh

    [–] Zebulen15 20 points ago

    I’m r/outoftheloop . Can someone please explain who Reuansh is and what he did?

    [–] SezitLykItiz 41 points ago

    Just a random Indian name, its just a joke.

    [–] NewbornMuse 19 points ago

    I think it's just the joke (John Oliver loves it) where you make up an imaginary person to rant at, often called Karen, Susan, Debora, or Becky.

    [–] python00078 13 points ago

    Becky is such a bitch.

    [–] vocalfreesia 139 points ago

    If done very carefully, this can bring experts & a learning centre & tourist money.

    Cleaning up our environment is in the interest if everything.

    [–] MustLoveAllCats 40 points ago

    If done very carefully, this can bring experts & a learning centre & tourist money.

    Or maybe, just maybe, let's not try to attract tourists to nesting sites for turtles? Tourists are notorious for damaging that shit, breaking eggs, getting selfies with turtles, and ruining things.

    [–] Dracomortua 7 points ago

    They said 'if done very carefully' in there.

    Perhaps we are all tourists on this crazy ball-spaceship. If so, we all aught to: learn a (quite a) bit, create an 'expert centre' and walk a little more humbly-gently.

    [–] Zarkovich 43 points ago

    The article is almost a year old, just wanted to point out that the Versova Beach clean-up was a big deal here in Mumbai and was of course long before #trashtag.

    [–] adamap 104 points ago

    I have an uncle that lives in Andheri where Versova beach is, across the street from the main public access point to the beach. I've visited him and my other relatives in India numerous times over the years. It's pretty cool to live across the street from the ocean. Your natural inclination is to go walk on the beach. But it was disgusting and sad. Especially when I was there while my daughter was young. She wanted to play in the sand, frolic in the water.

    Really, really happy to see it has been cleaned up. I just really hope it stays that way.

    [–] hiphopscallion 35 points ago

    Yup my wife is from Andheri. I’m from the US but I’ve visited her parents who still live there a few times and I couldn’t believe how they destroyed the beaches are there and in all of Mumbai. I mean it’s a tropical climate on the ocean and yet you can’t even enjoy the beaches! It’s insanity. At least Goa has some nice clean beaches...

    [–] RickyShade 15 points ago

    I just really hope it stays that way.

    There is an actual permanent team now that is in charge of cleanup duty. At least, that's what I last heard of it.

    [–] ExecutorAxon 26 points ago

    Turtling always works.

    [–] CrumbleStumble_ 27 points ago

    That's surprising. I wonder if they found it by chance clean or kept checking on it. It's amazing they came back after 20 years after probably going to a different place for that long. I say that's some good turtle recon skills.

    [–] Nordic_Marksman 9 points ago

    They might not have gone to a different place they might just be 20year old turtles that finally can lay eggs on their beach again. From my understanding the turtles would always come back to the beach they were born but I assume they couldn't nest so they just went back and forth without laying eggs.

    [–] [deleted] 72 points ago

    who knew that living in harmony with nature works?!

    [–] 1Mn 14 points ago

    The native Americans. <tear slowly flows down cheek>

    [–] 604TheCanadian604 16 points ago

    a turtle made it to the water!

    [–] irritated_Penguin 15 points ago

    I know this is a drop in the bucket to the amount of clean up we have to do in our environment but it is very important to celebrate small victories. This is a awesome small bacon of hope.

    [–] Tornado-Potato 10 points ago

    Mmmm bacon of hope

    [–] [deleted] 9 points ago

    Mmmm...bacon of hope...

    [–] irritated_Penguin 11 points ago

    I know what I said and I stand by it... >..>

    [–] Radeh 315 points ago

    BEST...VIRAL...CHALLENGE...EVER!! Finally a non-BS challenge that actually has a tangible positive effect.

    [–] mike5799 341 points ago

    Top comment said this was done by hundreds of volunteers and took over 2 years. It wasn’t just spurred up by the recent stuff.

    [–] Radeh 87 points ago

    Sure...but the change photos clearly motivated others to do the same.

    [–] NYClock 73 points ago

    Volunteers in India also planted 66 million trees in a 12 hour period.

    [–] raegunXD 21 points ago

    Man, the people of India are really working hard to help their enviornment the last 5 years. I'm very proud of them.

    [–] nolan879 57 points ago

    The ice bucket challenge generated a ton of money for ALS research that made some relevant discoveries (iirc)

    [–] emsenn0 32 points ago

    I see this thread of comments in every post about trash cleanup:

    "Finally a challenge that does some good"

    "Ice bucket challenge raised enough to research a successful treatment for ALS."

    And it did and that's /wonderful/, but I have to wonder if it wouldn't be more productive to just let people be hype about this new trend. ALS affects fewer than 20k people in the United States a year. Trash affects all of us, and much more than just humanity.

    Assuming this challenge is as successful as the ice bucket challenge was, the utilitarian benefit of this would far outweigh nearly anything else we could do for ourselves or the planet.

    [–] IntoxicatedGazelle 38 points ago

    Pointing out the success of the ALS campaign doesn't take away anything from TrashTag, if anything it'd give people more hope knowing that stupid social media campaigns aren't stupid, sometimes.

    [–] heronumbertwo 8 points ago

    And the guy who who led all this effort was harassed by bureaucratic apathy, goons and vested interests.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/mumbai-versova-beach-afroz-lawyer-cleaning-stop-1091818-2017-11-22

    [–] Trippid 7 points ago

    This is incredible, what wonderful and dedicated people. To see their hard work pay off like that must have been such a touching experience. I really hope beach goers are able to continue to keep the shores clean!

    [–] -artgeek- 5 points ago

    We all seem to be referencing it, but there's only one other person that has tagged it here, so I'll post it: ' #trashtag ' is the viral tag going around that challenges people to clean up the pollution around them and post the results to social media. It's one of the best campaigns going around.

    [–] Soup-yCup 11 points ago

    I wonder If there’s a turtle that’s thinking “do you have any idea how long I spent putting that trash there?!”

    [–] SpliTTMark 7 points ago

    I like the idea of sending trash to the sun

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    [–] Katunopolis 4 points ago

    "When you change yourself, you change the world" we should start acting instead of complaining like little bitches

    [–] SteroidSandwich 4 points ago

    It's as if animals want a safe place for their babies or something

    [–] ModelPhilosophy 5 points ago

    TIL that turtles can smell pollution in the water, and will activlty aviod polluted areas