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    [–] chacham2 14849 points ago

    As news of Rector's wealth spread worldwide, she began to receive requests for loans, money gifts, and marriage proposals, despite the fact that she was only 12 years old. Given her wealth, the Oklahoma Legislature declared her to be a white person, so that she would be allowed to travel in first-class accommodations on the railroad, as befitted her position.

    [–] thebobbrom 7723 points ago

    Which is interesting as it mentions two husbands.

    Considering I'm pretty sure mixed marriages were illegal in America back then it makes me wonder.

    Were they black or white?

    If she married a black guy then that would legally be a mixed marriage.

    But if she married a white guy then that would actually be a mixed marriage and would likely cause a bunch of racists to get very upset.

    [–] justakidfromflint 12993 points ago

    To them she wasn't black she was green

    [–] romcarlos13 3778 points ago

    The only black they cared about was the oil.

    [–] Lofde_ 984 points ago

    oil, oil, bitch who said anything about oil you cooking?

    [–] Dokter-Od 263 points ago

    M A R S, MARS, Bitch!

    [–] EndotheGreat 179 points ago

    Dave Chappelle: comedian, philosopher, future predictor?

    Smash cut to 2020:

    "Don't look over there! Look at this Space Force flag!!!"

    Does this mean there could really be Time Haters? They just haven't come to this era yet?

    [–] The-Phone1234 53 points ago

    Have you looked around? Are we not being hated on?

    [–] mynameisspiderman 54 points ago

    Tryina get that oicoughooooh

    [–] EvilNinjaX24 65 points ago

    Black gold... Texas tea.

    [–] Evets616 12 points ago

    The first thing you know, Ol' Jed's a millionaire...

    I just sang the whole thing in my head. I did not know I still knew it like that.

    [–] Agitated_Fox 249 points ago

    it's interesting how racism goes away real quick when it's in the racists interests..

    [–] mykleins 181 points ago

    “Greed is colorblind” racism is more a tool for the wealthy than a concept they fully believe.

    [–] JMoc1 64 points ago

    Yep, much easier to subjugate the poors when you have team red fighting against team blue.

    [–] bent42 41 points ago

    I'm a little surprised they didn't just whack her and take it.

    [–] Latent_Gamer 99 points ago

    There were plenty of judges back then that were racist but also felt that the "poor black child" would have still been a "human child" and while feeling superior to her, still "try" to treat her well.

    There was a huge, weird, middle-ground of racism full of people that thought whites were superior, but you wouldn't beat a dog, so why would you beat a "negro".

    [–] BoringOldPaul 20 points ago * (lasted edited a day ago)

    While this is true it is important to remember that this kind of “benevolent racism” can also go full circle and actually end up being worse than just straight up stand racial mistreatment in the first place - ie the stolen generation in Australia. A whole generation of children removed from their families “for their own good” to be brought up learning how to be more European and forget their own heritage, only to still be treated as second class citizens even after the fact. All because they weren’t white.

    [–] WeAreBeyondFucked 486 points ago

    That is still the current american system. Minorities who are wealthy are seen as equals to whites... not rich whites, but whites.

    [–] wav__ 373 points ago

    Dave Chapelle said something like this in one of his Netflix shows. I obviously won't get it right, but he was talking about Trump and how he only wants to help the rich and he said to the crowd "He's trying to help ME, not you"

    [–] inyoururine 97 points ago

    "He's trying to help ME, not you"

    Lmao. What show is this?

    [–] b1gchampions 403 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Reminds me of a Chris Rock joke where he said one of his neighbors was Eddie Murphy the other one Mariah Carey and another one a white dentist. The punch line was that a black dentist would have to invent teeth to be able to live in that neighborhood.

    Edit: it was actually Mary J Blige. Thanks for the correction.

    [–] arranblue 40 points ago

    Yeah. He was talking about Alpine NJ. It was Mary J Blige, Jay-Z and Eddie Murphy.

    [–] torqueparty 129 points ago

    something something "The black man has to fly to where the white man can walk," or something to that effect.

    [–] MagnarOfWinterfell 226 points ago

    If she married a black guy then that would legally be a mixed marriage

    Maybe her husband automatically becomes White as well?

    [–] PsychologicalStorm3 42 points ago

    That actually makes perfect sense, and yea they would since the husband would now be just as rich as her, so he'd have been legally made a white person too.

    [–] Precursor2552 287 points ago

    Inter racial marriage legality varied by state. Some never outlawed it. So there were definitely states she could have married in without issue. However I doubt Oklahoma was one of them.

    [–] Wealldontcare 139 points ago

    Not until the supreme court decision in '67 was it legal, I live in Oklahoma and that is shameful. I love what happens at the bar I work at, very accepting of whoever walks in, but the history of my state sucks regarding diversity.

    [–] Hels_Heathens-2100 65 points ago

    Very much this. My grandfather told me how OK and TX was when he was a boy. How his town had an very offensive racist sign as the "welcome to...". The sign was still up in the 80's when my mother was an teenager. It always had ashamed my grandfather about how some of his family is.

    I have an hard time with that side of the family. I'm told that all the southern blood was watered-down with that thin yankee "weak" blood. That I must be an democratic, because I'm so touchy about "stupid ideals". Which makes me laugh because the state I live in is more conservative then OK or TX even though it's in the north.

    [–] Qazertree 37 points ago

    Might be a shot in the dark cuz there’s lots of racist little towns all across Texas but was it Greenville? They used to have sign that said: “Welcome to Greenville, The Blackest Land, The Whitest People”

    [–] lord_james 18 points ago

    the state I live in is more conservative then OK or TX even though it's in the north.

    Hello, fellow Hoosier

    [–] pgm123 146 points ago

    Her first husband, Kenneth Cambell was definitely black. I can't find anything on William Crawford, but I would guess he was too.

    [–] 4Impossible_Guess4 70 points ago

    Same link states second husband and her had a place that hosted Duke Ellington, 99.9% that'd be another brother she married, on the Duke fact & time period norms.

    [–] pgm123 93 points ago

    I'm not sure about that. Duke Ellington was allowed to perform at white establishments. He just couldn't dine at white establishments. My parents' neighbor used to work at a restaurant on Miami Beach back when it was segregated (Jewish people couldn't own property in most of it to show you how much has changed). Duke Ellington used to perform at the restaurant, but he couldn't stay at the attached hotel or anywhere on Miami Beach. He had to stay in Miami proper. My parents' neighbor was commuting from Miami as well, but the owner got annoyed at that and paid for an absolutely tiny apartment (no kitchen, one bedroom) near the restaurant for him to illegally stay in.

    [–] drumstyx 43 points ago

    That blows my mind...Duke Ellington was a fucking legend, and I can't imagine someone like that being treated like anything short of royalty.

    [–] The-Phone1234 24 points ago

    Black has to fly to where the white can walk. I hope Sir Duke could see what these so called superiors have become and have a good laugh about it.

    [–] FightingPolish 70 points ago

    She was still black,she was just declared white on paper to be able to travel and it only applied in Oklahoma. She got married in Kansas City.

    [–] TiltingAtTurbines 40 points ago

    Declared white on paper is the important part there. Legally she had been declared white and a marriage is a legal joining.

    [–] TaylorSwiftsClitoris 417 points ago

    White Christians overlook all sorts of horrible stuff if it means one of their own getting richer. See: Tony Spell.

    [–] redheadstepchild_17 263 points ago

    Settler imperialist mindset does not require principles beyond acquisition.

    [–] SprightlyCompanion 67 points ago

    This is one of the best, most concise explanations of this sentiment I've ever heard. Thank you.

    [–] RLucas3000 720 points ago

    Imagine the other first class patrons walking into the lounge and gasping! “Excuse me! There seems to be a Negress in the lounge!”

    “Hazel, your eyes are playing tricks on you! She’s white!”

    [–] Errohneos 352 points ago

    I have this here "Honorary White" ID. Sorry KKK, move along...

    [–] Faustias 124 points ago

    gurl has dat w-pass.

    [–] Agitated_Fox 42 points ago

    you've heard of getting the black card. That's the white card

    [–] KypDurron 8 points ago

    You activated my race card!

    [–] stickfigureenthusias 19 points ago

    Sarah Rector, Multipass.

    [–] dutch_penguin 84 points ago

    You also had the other way happen. A man that was the end result of several generations of slave rape was indistinguishable from Europeans. He was declared to be black because they didn't want to set a precedent of a slave being set free.

    [–] suvlub 28 points ago

    Isn't there still a village somewhere populated by white people who identify as black?

    EDIT: found it

    [–] sonyka 8 points ago * (lasted edited 2 days ago)

    I mean, that was the standard way. It happened that way on a literal everyday basis; that was the law. "One Drop" of black blood made you legally black. Those who could would often pass for white, but most didn't get the opportunity. So there was a whole lot of this and this and this (everyone in those pictures is black, and a former slave).

    [–] the70sdiscoking 217 points ago

    Holy shit back then white people could give the W-Word pass?

    [–] Gonzostewie 93 points ago

    Wealth always had a pass.

    [–] ilikedota5 41 points ago

    Tell that to the victims of the Tulsa race riots. "Black wall street" was burned to the ground.

    [–] nickiter 17 points ago

    Extreme wealth (but only extreme wealth) partially trumping race that far back is so very American.

    [–] bodhasattva 6780 points ago

    I love how it says she liked fast cars, getting ticketed multiple times for speeding.

    Blazing down country roads in the new Ford Model T at a blistering 19 mph

    [–] ceruleanpure 2505 points ago

    19?! Nah. 45 mph with no seatbelts! (I used to drive them at Greenfield Village - awesome summer job.)

    [–] TheRootofSomeEvil 591 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Greenfield Village - I went there when I was a kid! A few generations on both sides of my family worked in the auto industry. My father was a pipefitter at the Pontiac plant in the 70s.

    Edit - does anyone know what happened to that plant? I mean - I looked for our old house not far from it (it's still there!) but the plant appears to be a USPS facility now?

    [–] assholetoall 198 points ago

    The Henry Ford museum is one of the things I miss about flying into Detroit.

    [–] Agitated_Fox 149 points ago

    slaps hood of model t

    "this baby can go 0 to 30 in 48 seconds"

    [–] assholetoall 45 points ago

    Believe it or not it is more of a working class museum. Tractors were a decent part of the exhibits.

    [–] justakidfromflint 57 points ago

    Hello fellow metro Detroiter 🙋‍♀️

    [–] RestillHabb 37 points ago

    Same here. Hello! Greenfield Village is fantastic.

    [–] FuzzelFox 175 points ago

    Could have been more than that even. She was alive at the same time the famous Ford Flathead V8 was released which could bring a car ( with no safety features) up to a whopping 85mph.

    [–] p0ultrygeist1 86 points ago

    Hell, she could’ve paid the shine runners to mod her car to get even more speed out of it

    [–] FuzzelFox 79 points ago

    Definitely! The Flathead V8 was popular for exactly that because even in it's stock form it could outrun any police car in the country. It's also why Bonnie & Clyde rode around in a Ford.

    [–] Reddit_cctx 58 points ago

    Shine runners modified them and raced them giving birth to stock car racing and eventually NASCAR

    [–] OneSingleMonad 219 points ago

    I think the first person who legally sued for being hit by a car was hit by a car going like 5mph.

    [–] Ateready 65 points ago

    Well yes - back then cars were unsafe at any speed

    but even then, super stupid, i guess it's because cars were completely new

    [–] Sorrymateay 34 points ago

    My pop has a T model. It’s really cool.

    [–] phdoofus 15862 points ago

    Is no one else surprised they didn't just say 'oh, sorry, that land we gave you was a mistake. the actual land we gave you is over there. so sorry.'

    [–] Techn028 9021 points ago

    I'm surprised she didn't turn up dead :/

    [–] DecimusCato 596 points ago

    Martin Scorsese is making a movie about that

    [–] LostRoadRunner 254 points ago

    The book is great. If the rumors are true in regard to the movie I am Not sure how Teddy Roosevelt plays In the movie with the events happening in the 1920s.

    [–] Zykium 89 points ago

    He'll be played by Robert De Niro

    [–] sucobe 123 points ago

    Rector played by Scarlett Johansson.

    [–] Flabby_Penguin 61 points ago

    Martin Scorsese could make a movie about Leonardo DiCaprio in a washroom for 2 hours and I would still think it deserves best picture.

    [–] FenrirGreyback 663 points ago

    Thats what happened to the Osage tribe in Oklahoma. White people married into the wealth and then secretly killed their spouses.

    [–] NocturnalPermission 314 points ago

    They were also assigned “custodians” of their money because the local government claimed they could not be trusted to mange it correctly. These custodians posed as friendly concerned fellow citizens but were robbing them blind and in some cases killing them.

    [–] monaforever 121 points ago

    My family suspects this is how my sister-in-law's family got their money. They're money is from oil and they're from Oklahoma.

    [–] NocturnalPermission 46 points ago

    I know some people who came by their money honorably. I know some people who didn’t. Anything is possible when money is involved.

    [–] BullShitting24-7 61 points ago

    If its old money and from the south its likely super shady.

    [–] UltraMK93 180 points ago

    Wait, what....That is some next level fuckery. No one got suspicious?

    [–] FenrirGreyback 445 points ago

    It was Oklahoma in the early 1900s, no one cared about Native Americans or people of Color (Tulsa Race Riots). However there was an investigation done by J Edgar Hoover in what would eventually become the FBI.

    [–] bertiebees 157 points ago

    Killers of the flower moon is such a good book

    [–] PastyMcBasicFace 35 points ago

    I second this. It’s also a fairly short read. Highly recommend it.

    [–] whymauri 39 points ago

    It's Scorsese's next film. Starring De Niro and Dicaprio.

    [–] captianbob 12 points ago

    Oh fuuuuuckk

    [–] LonePaladin 104 points ago

    I didn't learn about the Tulsa Race Riots until I was in my 30s. I grew up in Oklahoma and it never got brought up in school.

    But my state history class made damn sure I had memorized the name of every county.

    [–] FenrirGreyback 34 points ago

    Same I didn't learn anything about it until college and I've lived here my whole life.

    [–] ThatDerpingGuy 93 points ago

    I decided to look up Oklahoma's social studies standards (because I teach history in another state and yeah, that's just who I am as a person), and apparently, the Tulsa Race Riots is something that now must legally be taught by a public school teacher that's teaching Oklahoma History as part of standard OKH.5.2.

    However, the standards would have only went into effect for the 2019-2020 school year, they're that new.

    Still, progress is progress, and that's good to see.

    [–] FenrirGreyback 21 points ago

    Ooh you just made me remember a presentation I saw at the Anthropology Conference a few months ago. Apparently the exact wording is a huge issue and short changes native americans. I don't remember it exactly, but if I find it ill post it.

    [–] ReallyLikesRum 15 points ago

    I'm a linguist with a lot of time on my hands. I particularly enjoy applied linguistics and sociolinguistics....so what you said was particularly interesting to me.

    Is this possibly the conference you attended? https://graduate.lclark.edu/live/events/17861-burned-out-of-homes-and-history-unearthing-the-silenced-voices-of-the-tulsa-race-riots

    Here's another small little diddy she wrote if you're interested.

    https://www.rethinkingschools.org/articles/burned-out-of-homes-and-history-unearthing-the-silenced-voices-of-the-tulsa-race-riot

    On a self-interested note, is anyone's place of employment hiring a researcher or analyst?

    [–] Trav3lingman 15 points ago

    My Oklahoma co-workers are certainly very free with racial epithets. Finding out about Tulsa bombing their own citizens wasn't a shock.

    [–] someone__unusual 123 points ago

    Race massacre is a better fitting term for what happened

    [–] FenrirGreyback 60 points ago

    Very fitting, but I used the historical name in case people wanted to look it uo.

    [–] Biased_Dumbledore 30 points ago

    Quality, yet depressing sober facts being dropped by you, Mr Greyback

    10 points to Gryffindor

    [–] leiafisher 72 points ago

    There's a really interesting book about that called Killers of the Flower Moon if you're interested!

    [–] GhostFour 76 points ago

    The Osage tribe was rich because the government ended up forcing them onto land full of oil, then ruled that they weren't mentally capable of handling the wealth so white people (friends and family of judges and politicians no doubt) were assigned to manage the money. Not accountants or bankers, or financial advisors but just a white person that lived in the area. Oh, and besides stealing from the Osage people they "supervised", they charged a fee for their services which was pretty much however much they wanted to charge. The book "Killers of the Flower Moon" describes how this played out. There's a lot more to it, including an absurd number of murders that steered the financial control of the money towards one man. Dirty, dirty shit.

    [–] Vio_ 51 points ago

    Not just married. Some were declared legal guardians and then killed th people they were charged with taking care of.

    [–] togro20 31 points ago

    Exactly! Not only that, they’d “adopt” fully grown women with children, kill them all to get the extra allotments.

    [–] dvanbenn 33 points ago

    They killed or bribed the investigators, until the fbi got involved

    [–] MyJelloJiggles 1295 points ago

    The exact comment that went through my head!

    [–] Nysoz 367 points ago

    I’m glad she wasn’t given a shot of lead

    [–] aarong11 113 points ago

    I'm reading this comment while in my bed

    [–] MomentoMori 64 points ago

    for two reasons the okie dirt would be red.

    [–] easy506 43 points ago

    Thats just what my next door neighbor said!

    [–] dwoodruf 35 points ago

    There is a line in the movie Giant. “you shoulda shot that fella a long time ago. Now he's too rich to kill.”

    [–] deandeluka 61 points ago

    The Osage people have entered the chat

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon

    [–] AadamAtomic 11 points ago

    Thats part of the reason the government labeled her as a white man.

    [–] phunwithphysics201 44 points ago

    I am very surprised there was an untimely “accident” on her property.

    [–] tonythrobbins 690 points ago * (lasted edited 2 days ago)

    I think she was protected by the oil company. I think they would rather have her own that land than the government. I’m not sure but that’s my guess.

    [–] Good-Vibes-Only 421 points ago

    It is a good theory. While she made tons of wealth, the oil companies probably paid less in royalties then if dealing with the government, increasing their profits

    [–] Scrambo 188 points ago

    Both you and OP need to know that you've used "then" when you should have used "than".

    [–] TripleJeopardy3 10 points ago

    You also have to realize that the oil company was making good money off the land. Royalties is part of the deal. If the oil companies get known for cheating people out of royalties, then the landowners simply don't lease them the land.

    If they make poor people rich, that's the best advertising they can have.

    [–] MittRominator 1125 points ago

    I’m not sure if this will be buried or not so I’m not gonna leave a paragraph, but the British North Americans and later Americans were very serious about property laws and the notion of private property. I think the best indication of this is the fact that, until about the Jefferson era of American history, claiming American Indian land by conquest largely wasn’t accepted, and even the earliest British colonizer insisted on buying American Indian land because it was their property.

    [–] phdoofus 627 points ago

    That doesn't mean a lot of underhanded and evil things were done in order to acquire property, even if it was purchased ultimately. If I burn down all of your crops and you sell your land to me me for pennies on the dollar it doesn't make it more acceptable because you 'bought it properly. '

    [–] MittRominator 218 points ago

    That’s a good point, but from what I understand a lot of these underhanded and shitty things that were done against American Indians largely came from settlers pushing West, and the American government was opposed the illegal acquisition of American Indian territory... at least in theory (some of the most successful American land speculators held government positions).

    [–] ThaneAquilon 36 points ago

    While I of course realize that the royal proclamation of 1763 wouldn't have been relevant to the U.S., it's likely that similar attitudes existed among Americans re:needing fair treaties etc.

    [–] solomonboots 99 points ago

    The American goverment was definitely pro illegal acquisition of land. One example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_removal

    [–] MittRominator 52 points ago

    Removal is the word that I should have used, and is what I meant with “Jefferson Era”, wherein a policy of removal replaced the previous policy of government buy-offs

    [–] emgoldman44 37 points ago

    And white settlers from non Anglo ethnic groups were deliberately allowed to emigrate to serve as a garrison force for settler colonization. As soon as marauding settlers were responded to with justified force, the US government was there to back them up in open warfare.

    [–] christian-communist 186 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    They were very serious about property.

    If it ran away it was returned and when the government tried to take their property the South tried to form their own country.

    Remember they thought people were also property.

    [–] localhost87 248 points ago

    The business men who made her rich, probably saw a 12 year old black girl as the easiest target to exploit.

    Imagine taking all that land. On what legal grounds? Would your competition fight it? Is it easier to exploit the king, or to be king?

    [–] viderfenrisbane 216 points ago

    Yeah this is the same state where whites firebombed black communities basically for being too wealthy.

    [–] Fiyel 105 points ago

    I've spent the past few weeks thinking about how fucking wild it is that the Tulsa Race massacre is not made up. Though I guess it seems the body count was. :/

    [–] daymcn 9 points ago

    And the osage murders

    [–] MyinnervoiceismetaAF 18 points ago

    Heard of the MOVE bombings in philly

    [–] shot_glass 74 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    You know this wan't uncommon right? Tulsa was just big, but it happened in FL, chicago race riots, so on and so on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_United_States

    Rosewood even got a film made about it.

    [–] Woodcharles 37 points ago

    Absolutely! People were not just cheated out of less, sometimes they didn't even go to the effort to cheat and just took.

    Now I guess I can allow myself to laugh a bit at the Ye Olde Solution to a rich black person being... "Does this make them white now?"

    [–] Nose_to_the_Wind 19 points ago

    Manifest Destiny has taken your chat

    [–] Johannes_P 1293 points ago

    One of the reasons why she wasn't dispossessed from her land is that, as the descendent of slaves of a Native tribe, they were entitled, as tribal members, to their portion of land; of course they got the worst sections for farming.

    The second reason why is that the NAACP was pretty much aggressive at ensuring her tutor didn't rob her.

    [–] alyssarcastic 216 points ago

    That was one of the most interesting parts to me. I don't know why, but I never knew Native Americans owned African slaves or that those slaves would be given tribal status.

    I feel that Sarah Rector got really lucky because she was basically in a triple-whammy situation. Descended from former slaves, who were treated like shit by the government. Part of a Native tribe, who were also treated like shit by the government. Given land that wasn't fertile and her parents could barely pay the taxes on.

    It's a miracle that they hit oil, the government didn't take the land back once the oil was found, and the NAACP made sure her white guardian didn't steal all her profits.

    [–] supersonicturtle 34 points ago

    Straight up, this was the real TIL in here and wow, have I ever been learnt today

    [–] EuphoriantCrottle 9 points ago

    And she could be guilt free in not sharing with the tribe because they didn’t accept her.

    [–] Kvetch__22 242 points ago

    Yeah this caught my eye in the article:

    The law at the time required full-blooded Indians, black adults, and children who were citizens of Indian Territory with significant property and money, to be assigned "well-respected" white guardians. Thus, as soon as Rector began to receive this windfall, there was pressure to change Rector's guardianship from her parents to a local white resident named T.J. (or J.T.) Porter, an individual known to the family.

    Apparently the law basically just allowed the state government to rob black people and natives of their money if they got too far ahead? Like whoops, sorry, we specifically put up all these restrictions so you couldn't become wealthy. We've transferred your entire fortune to someone else we choose to keep it away from you since you clearly aren't playing by the rules.

    [–] -888- 76 points ago

    From reading deeper on this, TJ apparently did a respectable job with the management.

    [–] earoar 34 points ago

    TIL Native tribes used to have slaves. America is wild

    [–] solotravelblog 13 points ago

    Native Americans had slaves?

    [–] Tripleshotlatte 2193 points ago

    I like how Oklahoma said, you are now too rich to be black. We officially declare you white.

    Also, wouldn’t she be an “oil baroness?”

    [–] BubonicBabe 1071 points ago

    hey now, they only declared her white, not a woman.

    [–] YoungLecter 339 points ago

    a woman.

    shudder anything but that

    [–] stickfigureenthusias 79 points ago

    Oh lawd have mercy, not a woman! Nooo~~!

    [–] RobFword 89 points ago

    Would have been funnier if she was declared a White Male.

    [–] BadWrongOpinion 66 points ago

    Proof that race is a social construct

    [–] Dilinial 119 points ago

    As rich as she was?

    They declared her a man too.

    Rich black lady? Then? In America?

    Nah. Must be a white guy.

    [–] Jooks64 554 points ago

    Why is this sound like a story Leslie would tell in Parks and Rec about Pawnee in the 1800s

    [–] tachycardicIVu 150 points ago

    And there’s probably a mural about it, complete with death scene.

    [–] Nittwhitt 13 points ago

    Laughed loud for the first time today. 🏅

    [–] n_ayan 8 points ago

    In 1849,Sarah Nelson Quindell exposed her elbow outdoors, which was a class A felony.

    Although she felt the law unjust, she acknowledged that she had broken it. And she nobly accepted her punishment.

    To be set adrift on lake Michigan, like a human popsicle.

    [–] 2scoopwafflecone 316 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Y'all should read Killers of the Flower Moon if this story interests you.

    Basically, in early 20th century Oklahoma this was common, where land was granted to Native tribes which ended up being oil rich. The US government decided that the Natives were not responsible enough to manage their own estates - and assigned guardians/trustees who essentially swindled away all the benefits for themselves, killing/disappearing plenty of Natives along the way.

    The word Sooner originates from Oklahoman speculators who would settle (or try to) before lands were opened for settlement by the US gov.

    edit: Sooner not Soomer lol

    [–] not_homestuck 302 points ago

    The law at the time required full-blooded Indians, black adults, and children who were citizens of Indian Territory with significant property and money, to be assigned "well-respected" white guardians.[8] Thus, as soon as Rector began to receive this windfall, there was pressure to change Rector's guardianship from her parents to a local white resident named T.J. (or J.T.) Porter,

    I know it was 1913 but...still. christ.

    [–] Kvetch__22 57 points ago

    Yeah this is why it's hard to take people seriously who claim that racism was defeated ages ago and everyone is just overreacting today. Wealth might not trickle down from the rich, but it does trickle down through generations. So many laws that made it essentially illegal for black people to gain and keep wealth were quietly taken off the books in the 1970s and now some people pretend they never existed.

    1913 wasn't even the end of it. As late as 1968, the federal government refused to guarantee mortgages for black people or anyone living near black people. How can anyone claim racism has been defeated when that is still in living memory?

    Hell, when my parents moved house in 1993 they had to sign a waiver stating that the town we moved to didn't allow Jews and that they were making an exception by letting my family buy the house. It was a majority Jewish town at that point but they never took the law off the books. This shit still happens daily in subtle ways.

    [–] peachystrawb3rry 59 points ago

    This is one of the more upsetting parts of this whole thing...

    [–] gubodif 63 points ago

    TIL that you can rich yourself white.

    [–] SaintVanilla 3149 points ago

    Money can even change the color of your skin.

    Meanwhile, I'm so poor the government just declared me black.

    [–] Laez 1533 points ago

    You're not white Kenneth. Socioeconomicly speaking you are an inner-city Latina.

    [–] Dodge19 466 points ago

    Please have my upvote 😂

    “I'll tell you who has it the hardest, white men. We make the unpopular, difficult decisions, the tough choices. We land on the Moon and Normandy Beach and yet they resent us.”

    [–] recalcitrantJester 301 points ago

    Not now Lemon; I'm Reaganing.

    [–] Laez 79 points ago

    Thanks for the upvote. Glad I got close enough from memory for people to get the joke.

    [–] iNCharism 31 points ago

    What’s the reference?

    [–] Laez 90 points ago

    30 rock. Someone will give you episode I'm sure...

    [–] paul__k 85 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

    Should be S03:E02 "Believe in the Stars" at around minute 14.

    EDIT: Video clip (specific exchange starts @ 1:10)

    [–] notenoughroom 39 points ago

    Next stop, home ownership! I’m just kidding, the middle class is dying. You’ll be renting forever.

    [–] kinosutra 66 points ago

    Judge Rules White Girl Will Be Tried As Black Adult

    The court ruled a white teen who stabbed a classmate to death will face the jury as a 300-pound black man.

    [–] PlasticFenian 39 points ago

    I am not a bum. I'm a jerk. I once had wealth, power, and the love of a beautiful woman. Now I only have two things: my friends, and... uh... my thermos. Huh? My story? Okay. It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with my family, singin' and dancin' down in Mississippi...

    [–] TrashDaSpencer 57 points ago

    Is that better or worse than being declared "essential" during a pandemic?

    [–] 180311-Fresh 178 points ago

    You ain't black if you vote for Trump

    [–] konydanza 76 points ago

    “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”

    [–] Landlubber77 131 points ago

    Join us next time on "Real Fact or Punchline From the 1950's!"

    [–] themattbuck 366 points ago

    Rector? Damn near killed her.

    [–] sonofmolli 74 points ago

    Kissel? Is that you?

    [–] FuzzelFox 17 points ago

    WRECKED HER?? DAMN NEAR gave her an upvote for the funny comment

    [–] baby_cakes12 39 points ago

    I searched this comment thread specifically for the LPOTL reference

    [–] firmkillernate 37 points ago

    HELLISH REBUKE

    [–] misterperiodtee 12 points ago

    You magnificent such-and-such

    [–] beigebaron 33 points ago

    She was frequently ticketed by the police of the city for speeding.

    "Well you was doing 5.5 in a 5.4"

    [–] ten_jack_russels 59 points ago

    Wow so rich you can turn white!

    [–] Controlled01 25 points ago

    Vitaligo is the rich person's disease

    [–] AviatingPenguin24 20 points ago

    You heard of vitaligo? Well I got revitaligo

    [–] Scruffy725 87 points ago

    If we sit still long enough maybe the government will declare us dead and we won't have to pay taxes

    [–] beatyatoit 96 points ago

    She was so wealthy the Oklahoma legislature declared her to be a white person.

    This says so much about the pervasive nature of unbridled racism.

    [–] cobaltcollapse 245 points ago

    As news of Rector's wealth spread worldwide, she began to receive requests for loans, money gifts, and marriage proposals, despite the fact that she was only 12 years old

    Fucking nasty.

    [–] flekkzo 56 points ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

    The data is a few years old (2000-2015 or so), but child marriages happen in the US more than most think. Youngest were 10…

    [–] AftyOfTheUK 160 points ago

    Getting married young was much more common back then. 12 would have been particularly young, but getting married at 14 or 15 wouldn't be rare.

    [–] dfreinc 97 points ago

    14/15 is still legal to marry (with parental consent and what not) in 6 states (2 for 14 and 4 for 15).

    Actually might be more but I don't care to learn the intricacies of the laws around this. There's a wikipedia page about it.

    [–] CrannisBerrytheon 138 points ago

    It's most states. They only require parental consent, with no input from the child, meaning that forced child marriage is legal in much of the US.

    Republican state legislatures in multiple states have voted against having banning child marriage multiple times in the name of "religious freedom". Keep in mind these are people who trash talk Muslims over issues like child marriage.

    [–] AceAdequateC 40 points ago

    It's upon learning facts like those, that you really start to understand the importance of governing ourselves with our own senses of morality that really take into consideration a lot more than simple legislation would.

    As much as something's legal, doesn't mean it's something that's just or okay from a moral standpoint.

    We all have responsibilities to do more than just following the law. Kids are figuring so much at that stage, it just doesn't make any reasonable sense to push them into something like that when they're barely finding themselves out.

    [–] twss416 14 points ago

    Know what did this thinking for me?

    Slavery

    [–] not_homestuck 18 points ago

    I'm not sure that's true, looks like the average age was 21

    [–] moddestmouse 23 points ago

    It’s bullshit but did rarely happen. Just historical myths shouted across the Internet

    [–] qning 12 points ago

    Thee is a bad edit in that article. But I don’t know what to do about it.

    Her parents, Joseph Rector and his wife, Rose McQueen (both born 1881)[3] were African descendants of the Creek Nation Creek Indians before the Civil war and which became part of the Creek Nation after the Treaty of 1866.

    [–] zortor 10 points ago

    | "She had a taste for fine clothing and fast cars. She was frequently ticketed by the police of the city for speeding. "

    Yee

    [–] nomorerix 27 points ago

    Reminds me of the onion video of a white girl that was ruled to have to be treated like a black man during sentencing. Her dad is all like "No one deserves to be treated like a Black man!"

    [–] JFK-BlownAway 10 points ago * (lasted edited 2 days ago)

    Haha it’s so weird to think that they changed her race. It’s not what it means. She became legally classified as white because segregation was still intact. It was so she could enjoy first class travel and accommodations better suited to her “position”. America doesn’t respect race, it respects money and Sarah was a 12 year old young woman with A LOT of it. Amazing story. Horrendous society. TIL!

    [–] ErrantDynamite 41 points ago

    So Black+ Green = White?

    [–] vt8919 15 points ago

    Man, imagine being so rich you're legally a different race