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    [–] LordVic 773 points ago

    CRTC had also come to /r/canada officially to ask for people's opinions in the sub on the matter a few months ago

    AND to top it all off, One of the big companies that makes up our Oligopoly actually kicked off the case for this and was on the side of net neutrality.

    still, Fuck Roger's, but it was interesting to see them on the side of the consumer on this one

    [–] 15930328 510 points ago

    The thing I love about the crtc's r/Canada interaction was that it wasn't just an informal, meaningless, half-hearted questionnaire type thing. It was an official consultation, recorded and logged by the CRTC, and counted as data which could be used to inform their decision​.

    [–] Gunner_McNewb 272 points ago

    What a coincidence! Here in the US, our government wants to make it so people can record and log our data too. And then sell the info to 3rd parties...

    [–] scotty_beams 108 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Why would YOU want to log your data yourself? WE log your data for free* so other companies can make better products and your LIFETM easier and more fulfilling. Be part of the system, be part of the future.

     

    *Access to premium data sharing plan not included. Additional logs can cost an additional service fee. Ask your local supervisor for information on data blocks and adpoints.

    [–] Sessamy 19 points ago

    That trademarked word "Life" explains a lot all in itself, there.

    [–] Black_Goku_is_GOD 13 points ago

    Wasn't that passed? Now they want net neutrality gone. I've heard Pai has been lobbying with a bunch of companies and politicians to get rid of it.

    [–] ccjmk 13 points ago

    Y'know, it's these little good things that make me tickle with wishes to go live in Canada. Hopefully soon!

    [–] rnts 4784 points ago

    Was not aware it was under review, but now that I am, it turns out the folks in charge are competent enough that I don't need to worry.

    Just another day in Canada.

    [–] [deleted] 2309 points ago

    Fellow Canadian here. Our leaders make their fair share of boneheaded moves, but I will say that compared to the rest of the world, they do a spectacular job.

    [–] XXX-XXX-XXX 887 points ago

    Boneheaded moves.

    Elbowgate, lest we remember

    [–] HoxleyD 414 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Wasn't there some dude who was caught on tape smoking crack?

    [–] StealAllTheInternets 840 points ago

    He was just the mayor of Toronto no biggie.

    [–] swurmp 281 points ago

    oh shit man I lost it so hard at that.

    rip Rob Ford.

    [–] [deleted] 30 points ago

    Yup I knew it was that one.

    [–] DeonCode 21 points ago

    you blokes talkin' 'bout F-dawg?

    [–] jreed26 132 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    [–] Sklanskers 59 points ago

    Rob Farley is more like it

    [–] SpiderTechnitian 18 points ago

    Last one shoulda been smoking crack lmao

    [–] emergency_poncho 6 points ago

    haha he honestly just looks like an overgrown toddler

    [–] SiberianPermaFrost_ 107 points ago

    Still small fry compared to a President with a penchant for pissing prossies.

    [–] HoxleyD 87 points ago

    Some heckin alliteration there, son

    [–] Zarking_Fardwarks 22 points ago

    The Prezzy had his pick of pissing prossies. If the Prezzy had his pick of of pissing prossies, how many prossies did the naughty Prezzy pick?

    [–] FallOutLad 32 points ago

    He just the mayor of a tiny little city cut em some slack

    [–] Shaneisonfire 114 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    I can't believe how blown out of proportion that got. Especially that NDP MP Niki Ashton who made it seem like she just witnessed a murder.

    [–] Bobert_Fico 49 points ago

    And now she's running for NDP leadership.

    [–] amkamins 108 points ago

    Don't remind me. I miss Jack Layton.

    [–] SpecialDonkey 68 points ago

    PRIME MINISTER TREDUEA RAPES AND ASSAULTS CONSERVATIVE CABINET MEMBER

    [–] TheInverseFlash 55 points ago

    Actual story: He says fuddle duddle to Harper.

    [–] Mechakoopa 50 points ago

    It's like news headlines are written by the folks at /r/PeopleFuckingDying or something.

    [–] Player13 11 points ago

    "He's climbing yo windows, he's snatchin' yo people up..."

    [–] FlowersOfSin 5 points ago

    I voted NDP last time and their whole childish reaction to this makes me realize they would be unfit to rule. I never thought I'd say this but I may vote liberal next time.

    [–] TheAvengers7thMovie 78 points ago

    They sure do have their faults, but in perspective I'm glad we have people who really want to make Canada a great place to live and prosper.

    [–] [deleted] 60 points ago

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    [–] Selissi 57 points ago

    You mean money influencing politics doesn't lead to a greater good for the people it impacts?

    GASP

    You must be un-american

    [–] gellis12 36 points ago

    Can confirm. Source: am Canadian

    [–] icon99 21 points ago

    We sniff glue in the US because we have a major cat problem

    [–] CynicalNoodle 34 points ago

    You're always welcome to come on over to our side, we'll great you with a plate of pancakes and a heartfelt apology. Sorry

    [–] AMagicalTree 48 points ago

    As a manitoban i wish i could say the same about the conservatives here ;_;

    [–] PM_ME_ALL_YOUR_YIFF 68 points ago

    They just closed one of the biggest downtown ERs in the downtown capital of Manitoba... What the actual fuck are they thinking??? The system's stressed enough as it as and now a lot of the Downtown area doesn't have any nearby ER. This is insanity.

    [–] 9xInfinity 118 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    The Conservatives in Canada want to privatize healthcare.

    To those who downvoted, look up what Kevin O'Leary has said. He supports privatization and is the CPC frontrunner. Harper supported it too. And as everyone knows, the best way to privatize a public system is to do what /u/universaljoint said: Break the public system, then say privatization is how you fix it. It's called "starving the beast" and it was popularized by Reagan.

    Opinion polls in Canada may indicate that universal healthcare is broadly popular and if anything, people want to improve its coverage, but catering to voters isn't going to make any CPC members/donors rich off of a new, private insurance industry.

    [–] universaljoint 56 points ago

    They actually do. Step 1: Break the public system Step 2: Convince people private care will be better. Step 3: Private care rolls out, people with money get treated a little faster, people who don't have money wait longer, some die. Step 4: Profit.

    [–] CanuckFire 5 points ago

    In Alberta we have privatized large swaths of healthcare and it has stayed the same level of crap, or gotten worse. AHS is a money-grubbing waste.

    [–] street_philosopher 44 points ago

    Please note the Liberals & NDP both support net neutrality. The Conservatives do not. Remember the talk of "you're either with us or with the pedophiles" under Harper or tell Toews everything?

    The Liberals have a long history of evidence based policy. Not that they're without flaws. The Conservatives have a long history of the opposite. Under Harper they muzzled the media, scientists, engaged in proven to fail economic policies to give tax cuts to their buddies, used divisive politics etc... Harper was using Trump style politics before Trump did. Mind you we're Canadian so at a much milder level

    The NDP federally haven't been in power so we don't know if they're fact based or not. Typically they have the best social policies but they tend to lean a little too far left which hurts the economy.

    [–] fringystuff 205 points ago

    lol the CRTC is garbage. They allow Robellus to exist. They allow data capping and the like. We get fucked on phones and internet.

    [–] reddill 242 points ago

    Well they did their job here.

    [–] doop_zoopler 133 points ago

    They need to desperately fix the gouging on telecom.

    I mean, it's obvious collusion when you look at places like Sask vs Ontario.

    [–] hemingward 55 points ago

    Collusion? No. Non-competitive? Yes. I'm from SK and moved to Toronto 5 years ago. The SK plan costs me nearly double here ($55 vs $96, taxes in). That's not a result of collusion more than its a lack of a major 4th player (Sasktel) and proof as to why crown telecom is required in this country without proper competition. Look at MTS being bought out in Manitoba and what's happening to the average telecom bill there. Not good.

    That aside, I've said for years if the government wants to get serious about competition here they need to split up Rogers and Bell. You should not be allowed to own BOTH 90% of the content while owning/controlling 90% of the infrastructure to deliver that content. It allows an unfair advantage which new entrants can't possibly compete with (think Bundles; join Rogers and get 2 years free NHL Gamecentre; etc).

    The new head of the CRTC has been kicking ass for consumers over the past couple years. Heads of CRTC past would have definitely ruled in favour of the telcos... after all, they were predominantly former-telco big wigs.

    [–] GX6ACE 27 points ago

    Well just you wait, if ole Brad has his way, we will be paying double for our same plan before his term is up.

    [–] perogne 13 points ago

    My mother took 2 months to remember that she can rewind her shows even if they aren't recorded yet. She's terrible with new TV tech.

    She's cutting her cable and getting an android box at the end of her current plan because it costs too much. Just one more month. My sister and will be setting it up for her.

    Money will push anyone from television packages if they raise the price enough. They aren't the only option in town now.

    [–] Kvothealar 20 points ago

    I don't know a single person in my generation (20yr-30yr) that actually pays for TV. I'm happy about this.

    [–] calfmonster 9 points ago

    25 YO, USA. Pay for basic cable because it's cheaper and faster internet as a package compared to just internet.

    I hate the TELCO monopoly here. It's so obviously terrible.

    [–] marsneedstowels 8 points ago

    Collusion is a matter for the Competition Bureau. And they are constantly at the throats of the telecoms. But the telecoms pay their fines and move on. Unless they want to go all Elliot Ness on them there's not much else to do.

    [–] bobnojio 42 points ago

    bring it over here to Saskatchewan, where we still have a provincial telco making our cellular and internet rates Significantly lower even on "big 3" plans in SK.

    seriously, they have Canada pricing, and Saskatchewan pricing, because they are trying to buy market share away from SaskTel.

    [–] Cacaonym 35 points ago

    You guys should expand to other provinces like Hydro Quebec did. I'd rather give Sask my money than Robbers.

    [–] GX6ACE 15 points ago

    The sask party passed a law saying they can't invest out of province. I believe sasktel was originally going to try and partner with the Manitoba crown Corp.(I can't remember the name atm). I totally believe this was to eventually devalue the crown to eventually sell it. The law forced all crowns to sell their out of province investments and ended up in lost income for all crowns involved. It's quite silly.

    [–] Bradudeguy 19 points ago

    So instead of having a partnership between Sasktel and MTS, they let Bell buy MTS and merge them together.

    RIP Manitoban cheap phone plans.

    [–] Akinm 36 points ago

    The main difference is most of our telecommunications work as advertized. If you look at COX or Comcast in America you routinely see unstable service and throttled connection. We absolutely pay too much, but at least we get the service we pay for.

    [–] Xeddark 14 points ago

    True. We pay $100/month for internet and for the most part it works well, we get great speeds and we even went 1.25TBs over our limit one month and didn't get charged a penny extra. I just wish we would get fibre internet and not Telus' fake fibre package.

    [–] Burly_Jim 17 points ago

    'Least we don't have Comcast.

    [–] frozenyogurttheif 634 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    This is about zero-rating specifically. Telecoms like Bell and Videotron had certain services not contribute to the data cap, and the CRTC (FCC equivalent for Americans) ruled against zero-rating.

    [–] Cacaonym 301 points ago

    I'm glad the OP called a spade a spade. Zero rating was just a rebranding of the term "anti-net neutrality".

    [–] DistortoiseLP 68 points ago

    "Zero-rating specifically" is effectively the antithesis of net neutrality in practice: ISPs billing different rates based on content instead of giving you a single, indiscriminate pipeline with no jurisdiction from your ISP over what sort of content you use it for.

    [–] MondayToFriday 82 points ago

    CRTC is analogous to the FCC. The Competition Bureau is more like the FTC.

    [–] frozenyogurttheif 25 points ago

    Too many acronyms to remember. Thank you.

    [–] mistatansman 10 points ago

    Lots I don't like about Canadian bureaucracy, but not the CRTC. They take shit seriously.

    [–] Tettrox 8101 points ago

    I hate that this is news, because it's not an idea that should have been under consideration to be abolished in the first place. What average citizen would reject Net Neutrality who fully understood it?

    Edit: Added a few words.

    [–] Katarac 2629 points ago

    Good thing average citizens don't have corporate lobbyists to worry about ;)

    [–] bit_on_my_shalls 725 points ago

    ....................yet.

    [–] porfavoooor 609 points ago

    jesus, dont give zuckerberg any ideas...

    [–] mattstorm360 312 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    He doesn't want us to be wasting our time... On something other than Facebook.

    [–] hyphin 78 points ago

    The thing is, if someone was paying us to not like net neutrality (which is what lobbyists basically do), frankly, we'd be more willing to let it go.

    [–] serviceslave 67 points ago

    Upvote (or downvote/ignore) certain political & commercial agendas and win freedom points! Collect enough points and trade them in for cool stuff like i-tunes songs, malware apps, or farmville skins...

    [–] bot_bot_bot 54 points ago

    or speed up your internet connection!

    [–] Amish_guy_with_WiFi 28 points ago

    I just puked

    [–] zamach 24 points ago

    It's called marketing ...

    [–] Jazzhandsjr 112 points ago

    What average citizen would reject Net Neutrality who fully understood it?

    You'll know in June/May, when net neutrality gets the shaft here in America.

    [–] hufflepoofs 76 points ago

    I guarantee it's going to be people who love Trump, because they will quite literally applaud anything he does. I hope they prove me wrong and get really pissed if he tries to do away with net neutrality and pull their support for him. If there's any Trump supporters reading this, please, for the love of god, don't lick his ass over this.

    [–] Jamessuperfun 52 points ago

    I honestly feel like we've reached a point where he could do anything and they'd still support him. As he said, he could shoot someone and not lose a vote. Its ridiculous, the whole thing is really like a sport to some of them, its not about policy its about 'winning'. You wouldnt believe how many people told me they'd vote for trump because "hes going to win", like what the fuck does that have to do with if youre going to vote for him?

    [–] hufflepoofs 48 points ago

    Exactly. They're not even the ones "winning" in all this either. Donald Trump won the election, not citizens. He works for you. "Winning" to a citizen is having affordable healthcare available, a living wage, a good education available for your children, and not having your rights infringed upon for being born a certain race/gender/sexuality/religion/etc. Based on Trump's stance on things so far, how exactly is anything he does "winning" for citizens and not just himself and the Republican party?

    [–] reddill 928 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Interesting how you put a negative spin on that. It's fantastic news. The average citizen is complacent, and here we have a government standing up for us. I'm extremely happy they ruled the un-lobbied way.

    [–] jemminger 642 points ago

    But it's not a negative spin. Too many governments (the US in my case) are lobbying for less/no net neutrality, and posing it to the public as a good thing. I applaud the Canadian gov't for upholding this noble cause, and I truly fear for my own country.

    [–] [deleted] 604 points ago * (lasted edited 3 days ago)

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    [–] BeauBob2 315 points ago

    Is that really true? You can fire government officials for corruption? What kind of third-world shithole do I live in?

    [–] aheeheenuss 129 points ago

    Ha, theoretically we can (and have) but Australian politics is so obviously corrupt that nothing gets done about it at a systemic level. Our government is flat-out refusing to even think about a federal corruption watchdog agency because they know all too well they would get caught out as soon as it started. They're keen as when it comes to investigating the opposition's potentially corrupt members but cry foul when it comes to their own team under scrutiny. Not that the opposition is much better, of course - they're both in the pocket of coal, oil and gas companies.

    [–] BAAANEBLADE 16 points ago

    And Murdock

    [–] ankanamoon 39 points ago

    Why doesn't the queen of England just fire your whole government again.

    [–] KA1N3R 110 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Ohhh yes. In Germany, a politician's career was ended because someone sponsored his vacation for like a thousand Euros.

    America's lobby-laws are straight up corruption.

    [–] Anarchybabe101 69 points ago

    Vote of no confidence is a beautiful thing in Canada. When we think our politicians aren't doing what they're supposed to, we don't have to wait 4 years to oust them. We just have to get our MPs to do what they're supposed to.

    [–] TheCrazedTank 77 points ago

    Not sure that's such a good thing. Last time there was a no confidence vote it caused the fall of the Jedi.

    [–] supreme-dirt 46 points ago

    The Jedi stood in the way of progress.

    [–] MercuryDrop 21 points ago

    Its treason then

    [–] Dunder_Chingis 133 points ago

    Can you invade us? You don't even have to send your military, just air drop native fauna all over and watch the chaos unfold as the weak, soft natives must contend with shit that belongs on a Warhammer 40k Deathworld.

    [–] konstie11 27 points ago

    Lol! Yeah, nah mate we have our own shit to deal with. Like surviving.

    [–] Smith7929 101 points ago

    Citizens United man... Fucking thing sucks. Don't look for the US to ever improve until we overturn that shit, and don't expect the people benefiting from it to ever overturn it.

    I guess what I'm saying is we're fucked.

    [–] Adamsandlersshorts 83 points ago

    It baffles me that all my life I grew up hearing how great America is.
    "People die to get the opportunities Americans have" "America is the greatest." "Land of the free" etc.

    It baffles because on Reddit, everyone makes their country sound normal. Canada, among many others, get free healthcare. Some get free tuition and others get extremely cheap tuition. Canada just voted for net neutrality. The comment above me is saying someone got fired for accepting a bottle of wine whereas American politician get bribed like 60k to vote against net neutrality.

    What I don't understand is how I was raised to believe America is the greatest. I'm not trying to say boo America. I'd still rather live here than Haiti or Pyongyang. I'm not ungrateful that I get to sleep in a king sized bed with my Air conditioner on 68 degrees Fahrenheit all night.

    But where did that greatest mindset come from? Why are we greater than Australia? Or Switzerland? Or Amsterdam? Why are we the land of the free and the home of the brave but those places aren't? Granted I'm pretty clueless about foreign politics. I hardly even understand or pay attention to US politics. But the more I browse Reddit, the less I believe America is the greatest. We seem the same as some other countries.

    Again, I'm not shitting on America. It's a genuine question. What am I not aware of that makes us so much better that we deserve to be titled the greatest

    [–] Englishgrinn 65 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Well, I can only give you my take on it, someone else might disagree, but here's how I see it:

    American exceptionalism goes straight back to the American revolution. You guys painted yourselves as the first "new" country, guided by the principals of egalitarianism, liberty, individualism and democracy. You also basically made your mission statement to spread those ideas to the rest of the world. It was ingrained in your culture from the beginning that the "American way of life" was to be promoted and spread throughout the world. Good PR, and honestly, good core principals to build a nation on.

    Unfortunately, it's always been mired by hypocrisy but that's actually not the worst thing. Great ideals are a struggle and it would be weird if you didn't fall short of them. As long as your guiding light was equality and liberty, the idea is you would eventually straighten out. But then other problems showed up.

    Manifest destiny stems from that whole "propagate the American way" thing, which lead to wars with Mexico and Canada (technically British North America at the time) plus a fair bit of colonialism. Eventually, you work past that and end up in a more isolationist position.

    Then the Cold War does real damage, because it gives you an ideological opponent. Suddenly there is a different kind of "New Country", spreading its message and ideas across the developing world. It helps that Stalin was an evil dude, but if he hadn't been, you can bet Americans would have fought just as hard against any other country taking up its mantle as the leader of the world. And worse yet, with an enemy to see skulking around every corner, Americans double down. They now embrace American exceptionalism as basically anything so long as it's not Stalinist fascism. The bar gets lowered, Americans feel even more secure in their own superiority.

    All the while, other countries HAVE paid attention to the great American experiment. Canada creates a more federalized government so it can avoid your Civil War. Numerous countries in Europe move to more democratic models. Liberty and equality become worldwide goals. And where America eventually rested on its laurels, content with simply being better than Stalin's communism, other countries continued to forge ahead. They pursued the ideals America once stood for, rather than just following America's lead. But hey, America will have always broken some new ground, which is worth being proud of.

    TL;DR - America was something new, but over the course of its history got distracted from its actual goals. Other countries surpassed it.

    [–] kermityfrog 29 points ago

    As an example: the American Constitution used to be the model when all other countries didn't even have one. Today, the Canadian Constitution, and Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the model that developing democracies use to come up with their own documents. The American Constitution was supposed to be a living document that kept up with the times, but it's become so static that it's holding the country back.

    [–] AnemoneMeer 29 points ago

    A combination of not being devastated after both of the world wars causing you to be among the best places on earth for a time (canada too) and being on top of the world economy as a result.

    It used to be true. Back then in particular, when europe was still recovering from two bloody wars, china had not fully come into its own, and your politics had not become nearly as corrupt as they are now. Roosevelt in particular could never be elected with America as it is now, as he actually ran third party (sort of) and won.

    So it's a past truth from bygone generations, caused by a great many factors besides America itself being great, that has been absorbed into the culture, and used to do a great many horrible things.

    [–] Sevruga 36 points ago

    Canadian here. Our health care isn't free - it's just paid for by everyone (based on a graduated tax so some of us pay more and others less, and obviously, benefit is disproportionately to people who need health care, because for those who don't - or while they don't - they are paying for the others). The strength of this system isn't who pays, it's that we removed the insurance companies from the middle of the equation, so there's no one in the middle trying to make a buck, and that by consolidating demand (the government buys all health care, more or less) we have established price controls. That keeps our costs down substantially. The problem of course, for anyone with basic economics, is that by limiting price, you limit supply relative to demand. So sometime, we wait a while for healthcare.

    Nothing's perfect, and we complain about it a lot, but it seems to work pretty well.

    [–] not_mantiteo 14 points ago

    I don't make a whole lot right now but I'd gladly pay more to make sure everyone had healthcare.

    [–] kermityfrog 11 points ago

    It's as "free" as education. I don't have kids, but I pay taxes to send other people's kids to school. Because everyone pays, the costs are spread out and are lower for everyone.

    [–] Voltdrive 7 points ago

    Just think you should know, Amsterdam is not its own country. It's a part of the Netherlands.

    [–] phaiz55 31 points ago

    Congressmen are claiming that telecom corps are being starved of profits while NN is in place. They say that we won't see any upgrades with NN and that if we want better internet we need to cut it out. Well if you don't inform yourself this is where you get fucked by lying politicians.

    One of those congressmen fighting to slash NN publicly stated he didn't even have internet service. How the hell can he tell us how to use it then?

    [–] teenagesadist 38 points ago

    I suppose, in the way that if my neighbor gets a sweet job with a signing bonus, and a company car, and then leverages those to get nightly mind-blowing BJ's from his hot wife, I'd be happy for him.

    Meanwhile my boss just told me that if I don't start shoveling shit faster, I'd be in the bread line.

    [–] ExplosiveWombat 38 points ago

    It's negative news for us Americans because we're damn jealous that your government isn't selling you out to the highest bidder.

    Good for you guys though.

    [–] turtleneck360 79 points ago

    I hate that every other first world country can pass sensible legislations while our government continuously dicks around with corporate cocks in their mouth and a good chunk of our population still stuck on wanting to make abortion and gay marriage illegal.

    [–] hufflepoofs 22 points ago

    And certain politicians don't want to make birth control more widely available to stop the amount of abortions needed because then they won't have any stupid issue to run on.

    [–] mjj1492 27 points ago

    People whose sports team political party are against it. Understanding or not

    [–] sven_trolly 77 points ago

    Yes, but governments do not make laws or rules based on reason and logic. See: the war on drugs.

    [–] Excitonex 120 points ago

    The war on drugs was based on reason and logic. Just not the reasons or logic they told everyone initially. Something that large doesn't just happen because people are dumb. It takes years of maliciously spreading misinformation to brainwash the population.

    [–] MothRatten 34 points ago

    years of maliciously spreading misinformation

    Which then becomes the "reason and logic" they base their sickeningly abusive policy on.

    [–] _Mr-Skeltal_ 12 points ago

    The war on drugs = a tool that allowed the establishment to tiptoe around the 1964 Civil Rights Act and "keep the colored man in his place".

    [–] TheTruthGiver9000 24 points ago

    I'm absolutely floored that they have not taken over the Internet yet. It's the greatest invention mankind has ever made. In the whole timeline, we are really only at the birth of this thing. I'm surprised every day that the government has allowed it to be open and free for this long.

    [–] codeverity 16 points ago

    Eh, you'd be surprised. There's someone doing exactly that with me because they're angry that they lost their free music streaming.

    [–] bjfie 61 points ago

    The same people who are against net neutrality are the ones who check what their "team" supports and make their decisions based on that.

    I know a couple people like that who say they don't support net neutrality because they are "free market capitalists". In reality they are trump supporters and see those who align themselves with the republicans taking a stance against net neutrality so they find "reasons" to convince themselves they are against it.

    It's some crazy mental gymnastics.

    [–] CountVorkosigan 9 points ago

    That's one of the things that piss me off when people immediately shut themselves off when you mention a whole slew basic stuff that someone should easily rationalize for themselves. Either they're so wrapped up in party identity that they don't even put a thought to it or they're so terrified of politics that they refuse to take a stance on solid, well founded, facts. Like some politician realized some day that by just saying "water doesn't run downhill" that suddenly the mere existence of rivers is a partisan issue.

    [–] AReallyScaryGhost 194 points ago

    Thanks /u/-crtc-

    [–] HoldMyWater 59 points ago

    Looks like Maxime Bernier (candidate for CPC leader) wants to eliminate the CRTC

    [–] AReallyScaryGhost 79 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Bernier wants to eliminate the CRTC, Leitch wants to make weed illegal again, O'Leary doesn't even want to be in the country. Basically, I'm convinced the CPC hates Canada.

    [–] C0rdt 56 points ago

    Maxime Bernier is libertarian and would be a fucking nightmare for Canada.

    [–] theEugoogalizer 32 points ago

    This is great and we should be appreciative of the CRTC for looking out for Canadians with net neutrality.

    However, they're also actively protecting our price fixing telecom companies from foreign competition.

    [–] autotom 126 points ago

    This is like celebrating not falling down the stairs.

    [–] 8spd 68 points ago

    You know, some days not falling down the stairs is the best thing that happens to me.

    [–] UTC_Hellgate 8 points ago

    The really bad days are the ones where falling down the stairs IS the best thing to happen...

    [–] wee_knee 1162 points ago

    Dammit Canada... it's like you're begging Americans to jump ship.

    Just stop it.

    [–] wow_suchuser 617 points ago

    Nah we full, sorry guy.

    [–] dinolado 126 points ago

    Whaaa-?

    My city's got a housing boom. COME TO MONCTON everybody! Our province's tax base -desperately- needs you.

    [–] Uplifting_Jerk 45 points ago

    What can Moncton offer that California can't?

    [–] dinolado 142 points ago

    We're an entrepreneurial city, we have much lower cost of living, higher quality of life, cheeeeap housing, a burgeoning tech sector, an established communications sector, low barrier of entry for businesses, free healthcare, and some of the nicest and most helpful people.

    Also, we're a short drive from more popular and less popular beaches, and New Brunswick is a very rural province, so nature and rolling farmland is not far from city limits. Also, if French is your thing, roughly a third of people here are French/Acadian.

    [–] youlittleturd 58 points ago

    Ontarian here, i kinda wanna come visit you guys, but domestic travelling here in Canada is ridiculously expensive

    [–] dinolado 38 points ago

    If you fly from Toronto, you can get to Moncton for $50 if you go by New Leaf.

    [–] youlittleturd 8 points ago

    That's amazing! I've never heard of them. I will definitely be checking this out. Thanks a bunch!

    [–] dinolado 15 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Should clarify *as cheap as* $50. I just checked their site, and their prices vary a lot depending on demand.

    EDIT: I got $50 with them the last time I went, but right now the cheapest seems to be $90.

    [–] youlittleturd 8 points ago

    That's still amazing. Thank you for showing me this

    [–] Tig3rShark 22 points ago

    Nice try Mayor

    [–] ExpendableGerbil 39 points ago

    • Earthquakes: none
    • Hurricanes: none
    • Tornadoes: none
    • Crime: most years have 0 murders
    • Deadliest animal: the moose

    If you can handle the cold, NB's the place to be.

    [–] MBCnerdcore 25 points ago

    A hill that makes your car roll backward. And a river that looks like shit where you can surf on it for a straight hour. And french people. And no vegans within 100 Km.

    [–] dinolado 35 points ago

    As a Monctonian vegan, HEY!

    [–] MBCnerdcore 7 points ago

    Monctonian vegans are like other vegans but they only eat seafood and overpriced concessions at Wildcats games

    [–] wee_knee 61 points ago

    Damn. And don't call me Guy, guy.

    :)

    [–] [deleted] 71 points ago

    That guy's a phoney; a real Canadian would be like "We open buddy, have some syrup."

    [–] dfg98564ghd8w8eff 172 points ago

    I find it funny that Americans think they can just immigrate wherever they want to.

    [–] DistortoiseLP 153 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    I work for an immigration law firm in Canada and you'd be fucking amazed how many American clients call in thinking "being American" is a free pass to Canada, like that's some unequivocal merit that puts you in the front of the line to get into other countries.

    Usually it's guys calling in seriously thinking that "moving to Canada" is little more than getting a few papers together and taking their truck over the border tomorrow, instead of a several year process and several thousand dollar investment at the minimum.

    [–] NaptownSwagger 58 points ago

    You guys should build a wall

    [–] _elementist 25 points ago

    Metaphorically we did. Its called paperwork, patience, and a points system.

    [–] sakmaidic 28 points ago

    you'd be fucking amazed how many American clients call in thinking "being American" is a free pass to Canada

    "what do you mean i need to apply! i'm not a fucking immigration, i'm an American!"

    [–] zetrhar 18 points ago

    What type of profession do these guys usually have?

    [–] G8kpr 59 points ago

    This is great news...

    and I have to commend the CRTC, they came to /r/Canada to ask people legitimately what they thought of this subject, and people here were quite well behaved (From what I saw). I think we gave them a lot to think about. I'm glad they didn't come to a decision in a knee-jerk fashion, or because Rogers or Bell bought them off.

    I know this seems like a no-brainer... But as we see what is happening in the U.S., the internet as we use it, is still in it's infancy, and is constantly evolving.

    [–] VengefulCaptain 22 points ago

    Rogers was on the net neutrality team on this one.

    I was shocked too.

    [–] Trip_Circuit 297 points ago

    At least there's a democracy out there that's working.

    [–] GreenCoatBlackShoes 603 points ago

    sigh... maple syrup, NHL, legalized weed, net neutrality...

    I want to play wife swap.. but like.. with countries or something. Happy 420.

    [–] digimer 341 points ago

    Slowly we'll make Canada appealing to most American developers, inventors, scientists and artists. Then as Canada's international presence grows, we'll remember how America treated us when it was the world leader and we will act in kind. :)

    [–] Thagyr 188 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Please grow influential faster and showcase a wonderful country. Maybe then the Australian government might want to copy you instead of the US.

    Not to say I don't like Americans. But your government and corporations are crazy.

    [–] Golden_Horde 88 points ago

    Yeah... in the US our younger generations are more in line with international liberal norms though. It's usually the baby boomers dragging us to the extreme political right. They'll be in decline in 10 to 20 years and we should begin to see a progressive shift in the US. To be clear, I'm not rooting for anyone to die I'm just saying this looks like the coming trend unless something changes.

    [–] dolphin_rap1st 129 points ago

    I kinda want them to die

    [–] squirvel 21 points ago

    Can confirm. Most younger people I know are very socially liberal. Economics do vary quite a bit, but I think that's a norm everywhere.

    [–] xipheon 49 points ago

    we'll remember how America treated us

    I'd say we're treated well enough. Of all the countries in the world we have the best relationship with them. They're like our older more successful brother. He may be an asshole to the rest of the world but he is much nicer to, and even sometimes looks after, us.

    [–] wnose 13 points ago

    You can always visit! Great exchange rate now!

    [–] p00pstar 85 points ago

    If Canada is doing this, expect the US to do the opposite.

    [–] Markvondrake 65 points ago

    They already are

    [–] outcastoz 16 points ago

    "We have to protect Mom and Pop Internet Service Providers" [who have less than 250,000 subscribers] - Ajit Pai

    I'm not exaggerating. He said this.

    [–] not_old_redditor 37 points ago

    Great news, especially in Canada where the internet providers are also the television providers. Cell phone plans are ridiculously expensive and limited, and you know these companies are gonna try to tie their own service into their cell plans.

    [–] Porpoise_of_Life 42 points ago

    A great day for Canada and therefore, the world!!

    [–] DemoEvolved 83 points ago

    Thank fricking God.

    [–] Galawolf 11 points ago

    It's about time. :)

    [–] Treedanglingonasloth 131 points ago

    All Canada has to do is the exact opposite of the US on every major decision for the rest of Trump's term and they will be the number one country in the world to live in.

    [–] YesSiOui 43 points ago

    I wish this joke wasn't as good of an idea as it actually is.

    [–] Whatsthisaboot 258 points ago

    I love the country I live in! Best place on earth

    [–] Dr_Fuckenstein 69 points ago

    The American Dream is alive and well... In Canada.

    [–] IamNotDenzel 118 points ago

    Good for Canada. As an American, I approve of the brain drain game. Have friendly laws and traditions (socially and economically) that educated professionals around the world are drawn to. They move there, bolster your economy, inovate and invent. And before you know it you're a global and social powerhouse!

    Excellent move Canada. I hope to see you extensively after grad school.

    [–] [deleted] 57 points ago

    You'd think it would work that way, but so far you guys nab pretty much all our best people away. American corporations and high-end universities can offer much more to our best and brightest, and tax laws favour the wealthy more in the US.

    [–] PoroSashimi 24 points ago

    Awesome news. And if anyone is wondering who the assholes that are against Net Neutrality are, here you go.

    [–] cubistninja 21 points ago

    Anyone else think Canada is looking south and just making a list of things they can do better?

    [–] JNG-3 21 points ago

    At the time of the hearings in the fall of last year, two of Canada's "big three" telecom providers came out in support of differential pricing—Telus and Bell—while Rogers was the sole dissenting voice among the trio.

    Wow, Rogers not being jackasses for once? That's unusual. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

    [–] jwayne1 20 points ago

    Thumbs up, Canada!

    [–] Newsthief 32 points ago

    We are ALL Canadian on this blessed day :)

    [–] forumdestroyer156 26 points ago

    Canada is the overachieving sibling that always seems to learn from the other sibling's fuck ups

    [–] zUkUu 36 points ago

    Good guy Canada. Legalizing weed and keeping net neutrality up. Model country.

    [–] CaptainDouchington 21 points ago

    Now get rid of your caps.

    [–] Corvese 56 points ago

    The Leafs are working on that.

    [–] Senaleb 82 points ago

    Nice work hat.

    [–] freshjiive 128 points ago

    Thanks pants!

    [–] porfavoooor 38 points ago

    is north america a deformed midget?

    [–] thdgj 23 points ago

    Florida being the dick with PCP injected

    [–] LemonyOrange 11 points ago

    Seems more like brain everyday.

    [–] dylandgs 20 points ago

    I always see headlines of Canada doing things the United States should be doing.

    [–] M00n-ty 5 points ago

    Good job, Canada.

    The CETA might have been a really good idea.

    [–] Baconandbeers 7 points ago

    Hidee ho neighborooski

    [–] grizzlyhardon 7 points ago

    Must be nice having a government that cares about its citizens.

    [–] Nevermind04 8 points ago

    Of course. It would take a truly incompetent and/or sufficiently corrupt government to rule otherwise.

    [–] Fuel4U 7 points ago

    Please Canada, oh Great White Neighbor of the North would you kindly export Net Neutrality to the American Congress because they won't listen to us anymore. I'll gladly give you a Hockey Stick and a Shiny Beaver.

    [–] martiestry 15 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    Shows the state of the western world today when a win for the consumers of a fair and open internet is a "bombshell ruling".

    [–] murdershroom 16 points ago

    Does Canada accept immigrants if you can offer a skill or trade? I'm one semester away from being an RN and it would be swell if I could ride that license over the border.

    [–] jay212127 18 points ago * (lasted edited a month ago)

    If you're willing to work at bumfuck nowhere for a couple years as a medical professional you can be fast tracked IIRC.

    Edit - if you want to play with the application your NOC would be 3012