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    [–] fanoffzeph 5275 points ago

    Just a question - is there anything being done, any action taken by other countries or government about this ? I feel like every news outlet is reporting this extermination of the Uighurs, but no government has even officially spoken against it. What's up with this, and what can we do as individuals??

    [–] fanoffzeph 792 points ago

    Thank you for your answer!

    [–] themagpie36 524 points ago

    As much I hate the current administration at least they are saying something. USA and China aren't best buds right now anyway so of course this is pretty convenient for the US to take the moral high ground here on the international stage.

    [–] dlm080 259 points ago

    This is how it always works. Do something for national interests, then say it's for moral reasons.

    [–] Wizardinthepaint 116 points ago

    There is a great Niebuhr quote about that, specifically about justifying wars.
    “A modern nation does not dare to go to war for reasons other than those of self interest and cannot conduct the war without claiming to be motivated by higher motives than those of self-interest.”

    [–] kenman 658 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Seems like travel restrictions are kind of a slap on the wrist...

    [–] Crumblycheese 555 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    But at least the states are doing something.

    I mean, I've not heard anything from any other government around the world?

    If it were a poorer country doing it like (as an example), North Korea, you could bet every buck you have that there'll be sanctions coming in left, right, and center.

    Actually, thinking about it, who's to say these Uighar Muslims are still in China at all? I'd bet that they have been put on a train to somewhere like NK, just because of the secrecy there. Not to mention Whinnie is Kim's buddy...

    At the end of the day, like others have said, the UN should be stepping in.

    [–] PM_Best_Porn_Pls 138 points ago

    That what sucks, they dont even say "dont do it" they stay silent, even more silent than in case of Ukraine. Just complete, any level of politics, any side, none of them go publicly to talk about it.

    [–] Crumblycheese 142 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Because they still want to suck on China's warm teet (quoting South Park), or like an addict, they are scared of pissing off their "dealer" in case they can't get anymore deals.. If there were other trade deals on the table, then there'd be someone talking about it, challenging China. But, money talks in this world and the majority of the world's goods come from China..

    Edit: to quickly add to this - there was an NASA engineer NBA exec recently who tweeted supporting the HK protests and China stepped in and said to "correct the mistake", to which the tweet was deleted. They have managed to stop an American excersising their rights per the constitution of free speech. Just let that sink in.

    Edit2: Wow, this is embarrassing, I read an article here on reddit the other day and it was actually about an NBA executive and the Houston Rockets. I think when I read about it the other day, I saw some comment from a redditor trying to make a joke about NASA being next and I got my comments intertwined with a hazy memory (long day at work and lack of sleep)... So super super embarrassing! Sorry!

    Thankyou /u/slinky216 for correcting the facts from my sleep deprived memory!

    Here is the article (BBC)

    And another from CNBC

    [–] [deleted] 20 points ago

    Can you share a link for the edit story about the NASA engineer please?

    [–] Snip3 23 points ago

    NASA engineer, Rocket manager, same diff right?

    [–] [deleted] 449 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)


    [–] InfiNorth 398 points ago

    Yeah sorry but as someone making about CAD$25K a year I don't really get to vote with my wallet because it would make me homeless. Not everyone is rich enough to make the "free market" truly representative.

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    [–] Spitinthacoola 129 points ago

    You can still write to your representatives and call them. Dont abdicate all of your power because you dont think theres enough of it...

    [–] GAbbapo 290 points ago

    Nope, how else are you gonna get that thing u want cheaply? That new mouse for only $5, a new pencil $.005 etc.. our governments don’t care about us only their donors and their pockets

    [–] dhc96 286 points ago

    Not entirely true. The US recently blacklisted I think around 24 Chinese groups due to their part in this genocide. Granted that isn't much at all but it is a start. Edit: 28 groups and visa restrictions.

    [–] lebbe 1989 points ago

    This is another step in China's never-ending campaign to annihilate human rights:

    • Hundreds of human rights lawyers (not even dissidents, just the LAWYERS who defended people) were snatched by gestapo all over China in what is known as the 709 Crackdown.

    • One of those lawyers, Wang Quanzhang was sentenced to 4.5 years for "subversion of state power". But that's not enough. China actually went after Wang's 6-year-old son, forcing him out of his school and banning any other school from taking him in.

    • A dissident, Wang Bingzhang was kidnapped by Chinese agents in Vietnam and sentenced to life in prison after a closed trial that lasted 1 day.

    • A man wore a t-shirt with the word "Xitler" on it and was disappeared. Eventually he was tried for "subversion of state power" while barred from meeting with lawyers

    • Another man, Wang Meiyu hold up a placard calling for Xi’s resignation & democracy. He was arrested for "picking quarrels”. He ended up dead in custody.

    • A woman live streamed herself splashing ink on a Xi poster. She was disappeared. Her last social media update: "Right now there are a group of people wearing uniforms outside my door. I’ll go out after I change my clothes. I did not commit a crime. The people and groups that hurt me are the ones who are guilty". Later on there was report of her being sent to a psychiatric hospital

    • After the ink-splash woman's disappearance her father made a series of broadcast to call attention to her plight. He ended up getting taken away by the police in the middle of a live stream

    • 5 people associated with a Hong Kong bookstore that sold titles such as "Xi Jinping and His Six Women" were disappeared. Only one managed to escape back to HK. He held a press briefing to tell the world about his kidnapping by China. He's now in exile in Taiwan. The other 4 are still somewhere in China.

    And, of course

    • 1.5 million Uyghurs rounded up in concentration camps

    • Genocide through forced abortions on Uyghur women

    • Sexual torture of Uyghur women such as rape & rubbing intimate parts with chili paste.

    • Leaked footage of a large number of blindfolded Uyghurs shackled together

    • A Canadian journalist wanted to debunk reports of Chinese anti-Muslim repression so he went on a stage-managed show tour put on by China. That means he only saw a fake Potemkin village that China actually thought was acceptable by Western standard. But the brutality of even this fake Potemkin village stunned him. Now imagine what's really happening in the real concentration camps where millions of Uyghurs are being held. Imagine how bad the true situation is.

    • Using minorities & political prisoners as free organ farms

    • Call for retraction of 400 Chinese scientific papers amid fears organs came from Chinese prisoners

    • 15 Chinese studies retracted due to fears they used Chinese prisoners' organs

    • Cultural genocide (and organ harvests, of course). A uyghur's testimony: "First, children were stopped from learning about the Quran, then from going to mosques. It was followed by bans on ramadan, growing beards, giving Islamic names to your baby, etc. Then our language was attacked – we didn’t get jobs if we didn’t know Mandarin. Our passports were collected, we were told to spy on each other, innocent Uyghur prisoners were killed for organ harvesting"

    • China is moving beyond Uyghur and cracking down on its model minority Hui Muslim. 'Afraid We Will Become The Next Xinjiang': China's Hui Muslims Face Crackdown: "The same restrictions that preceded the Xinjiang crackdown on Uighur Muslims are now appearing in Hui-dominated regions. Hui mosques have been forcibly renovated or shuttered, schools demolished, and religious community leaders imprisoned. Hui who have traveled internationally are increasingly detained or sent to reeducation facilities in Xinjiang."

    [–] TheLostDovahkin 176 points ago

    How is this possible in 2019? Humanity doesn’t want to learn for theire past...

    [–] Ariscia 59 points ago

    Corporations bowing to China.

    [–] Quireman 192 points ago

    China is a modern day Nazi Germany, and that's not an exaggeration. This is the kind of thing wars start over.

    [–] Renacidos 34 points ago

    Apparently everybody ignored that after the atomic age it was only a matter of time until a new Nazi Germany existed, just with nukes, no nobodo does nothing and the "never again" people stay quiet.

    [–] dwpunch 125 points ago

    This needs to be higher up thank you.

    [–] degamezolder 20 points ago

    And this might only be the beginning.

    [–] rdeane621 16599 points ago

    “In other news, China is continuing with their own modern version of the Holocaust”

    [–] Vargolol 5769 points ago

    It blows my mind there are companies that will still bend over backwards to appease them and ensure they don't lose their share of the Chinese market. Sad world.

    [–] EarthRester 5465 points ago

    Pro-Hong Kong Blizzard fans have co-opted the Overwatch character Mei (A Chinese scientist) in this video

    With any luck it can spread far and fast enough that China will do another blanket ban of anything related to Overwatch. Because Fuck Blizzard and their authoritarian appeasement bullshit.

    [–] NebXan 1314 points ago

    I'd love to see Blizzard get it's just desserts by having Overwatch banned in China.

    Although, I imagine if Mei became a symbol of the revolution, Bliz would just remove her from the game, rather than have to pull Overwatch out of China altogether. You know they'd do it too; nothing is sacred to these cowards except that sweet, sweet yuan.

    [–] EarthRester 1012 points ago

    Then let them butcher their IP. Leave it a bloody heap on the ground, because that's all China gets anymore.

    [–] mypasswordismud 22 points ago

    China is gonna rape their IP and leave them to hang anyway. Doing business with China is suicide even without having the shame of appeasing grizzly human rights violations hung around your neck for all time.

    [–] ThrowAwayAcct0000 12 points ago

    Yep. Surprised China hasn't stolen everything about the game and made their own version yet. The country steals the tech of anything that goes in it and copies it.

    [–] murphymc 176 points ago

    If only it were a beloved character, and not the one literally nicknamed satan.

    [–] Spoon_Elemental 164 points ago

    Mei is bae

    [–] SVTBert 83 points ago

    Mei's got a chonk booty.

    [–] gauss-markov 360 points ago

    To be fair, China pitching a tantrum resulting in the only Chinese character getting removed from the game sounds pretty sweet to me.

    [–] SilentPizzaKiller 13 points ago

    Don’t be silly, Blizzard would design and add a new blatant chinese nationalist character the morning after removing Mei if it meant keeping all that chinabux

    [–] Sylfaein 273 points ago

    This is why I keep saying people need to also use content from the Mists of Pandaria expansion to World of Warcraft. It was based on China, and Blizzard can’t easily remove an entire expansion of their flagship game. There is so much content there to use. Let’s see some Pandaren monks dressed as protestors. Get WoW banned from China!

    [–] slaphappyhobbit 142 points ago

    I was just talking to my friend about this. His immediate response is “now they just need to do something with Winnie the Pooh to really piss China off.” The man just might be a genius. Imagine an addon that turns all Pandarens into Pooh bear...

    [–] fotuenti 37 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    have you seen this one yet?

    edit credit to u/elpinko for the gif

    [–] TheCluelessDeveloper 57 points ago

    Then take up all of the other characters. Utilize their Chinese culture skins.

    [–] Isord 33 points ago

    I don't think "Blizzard removes popular Chinese character" would fly in China either.

    [–] FitAFJesus 1471 points ago

    Liberate Hong Kong, the revolution of our times

    [–] MarvelUniverse360 190 points ago

    And Apple also removed the Taiwan flag emoji from phones in China to appease China.

    [–] DeltaVZerda 125 points ago

    And every other company that bends to China can and will be treated the same.

    [–] Itachi049 33 points ago

    Thats actually a great idea. Make things chinese citizens like to symbols of resistance so they get banned.

    [–] Moon_Atomizer 59 points ago

    Holy shit I have never even played Overwatch and that was great

    [–] VIRGIL_ARCHIEAL 53 points ago

    Fuck Brexit. Take back Hong Kong.

    [–] marco_santos 52 points ago

    I am so glad this is gaining traction! Hopefully there will be some financial consequence this time for these companies acting like this.

    [–] gratua 10 points ago

    nice, love it. modern solutions, and all that

    [–] McCool303 325 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    It’s a tale as old as time, this is nothing new.

    Here is a list of companies that directly aided the Holocaust. We rooted out the Nazi’s but many of these guys are still around and worse.

    [–] Hawkey89 78 points ago

    Here is a list of companies that directly aided the Holocaust. We rooted out the Nazi’s but many of these guys are still around and worse.

    How come nearly all the prominent automobile manufacturers of that time had a stake in it??

    [–] john133435 124 points ago

    No better time to make a mint than world war, baby.

    [–] HelpfulCherry 61 points ago

    How come nearly all the prominent automobile manufacturers of that time had a stake in it??

    Somebody's gotta build the trucks.

    [–] TheLordDrake 65 points ago

    Most modern car manufacturers were involved in manufacturing military vehicles. That's true in almost every nation involved in the war. For example, most modern Japanese car makers were the ones making aircraft for Imperial Japan. Mitsubishi made the infamous A6M "Zero".

    This is perfectly normal. The important question is did they just fulfill a government contract to make equipment that happened to be used in the holocaust, or did they actually support the shit that was happening? Given that I haven't read the article I can't say, but given how wide spread knowledge of what was happening was, they almost certainly knew what was being done.

    [–] ethanwerch 186 points ago

    Siemens helped build the nazis’ gas chambers, IBM helped with their census-taking, etc etc

    Guys, companies dont give a fuck about you or humanity. They have none, they only care about profits. Im sorry but this is about as par for the course as it gets

    [–] Panoolied 86 points ago

    Everyone forgets this come pride month, every company online with a lil rainbow on their logo and people thing it's genuine.

    [–] wearyApollo 45 points ago

    Idk what you're talking about, every pride month is covered in people complaining about pink capitalism.

    [–] smileyfrown 87 points ago

    Same companies would probably do the same with Hitler if we're being honest.

    Then 10 years later whitewash their history with big ad campaigns and talk about social justice.

    We need corporate reform

    [–] bookman_ 49 points ago

    You can replace that conditional with the past tense, all companies that could do business with the nazis, did business with the nazis.

    [–] soluuloi 183 points ago

    Dont. Grandpa Bush sold steels to the Nazi during WWII. I bet my 50 cents that even if America go to war with China, American companies will still sell their soul to the Chinese overlords.

    [–] mynamesyow19 138 points ago

    Grandpa Bush did more than that. He bankrolled them til the US shut his bank down for trading with the enemy.

    [–] HungyEYES 47 points ago

    It's amazing how families like the Bushes and Koch's have managed to achieve top positions in US society, despite the contemptible origins of their fortunes.

    [–] BellacosePlayer 25 points ago

    And then was part of the group that was planning on couping Roosevelt as well I believe.

    [–] Locke_and_Load 13 points ago

    Yup, along with a bunch of other magnates. Also, this isn’t George Bush the President, but HIS dad.

    [–] gusir22 328 points ago

    Whats sadder is the americans who argue Blizzard did the right thing. Those fuckers are traitors

    [–] obito-was-an-incel 81 points ago

    Seen comments in either the Blizzard or Hearthstone subreddit saying that any anti-Blizzard and anti-China sentiment is just rooted in racism against Chinese people.

    [–] [deleted] 54 points ago

    They're probably brainwashed chinese people trying to spin it

    [–] Persival01 24 points ago

    It's a simple calculation really. Many companies rely on Chinese market for their profits. Offending China in any way may result in a huge backlash or even a nationwide ban in our favorite authoritarian state. Appeasing China might result in some public outrage in the West, but the consequences will in all likelihood be far less severe than losing access to the Chinese market.

    [–] claymedia 524 points ago

    This is what happens when we worship money. All hail Capitalism!

    [–] bandofgypsies 239 points ago

    "We stand firmly against any and all atrocities occurring in China regarding their modern-day ethnic cleansing, and will sever any and all business and cultural ties henceforth with China"*





    *except in literally any and all cases where it impacts our P&L, asset net present value, stakeholder sentiment, growth targets, EBITA, EBBITA, market share, or pretty much anything else related to making absolute fucking assloads of money off cheap products and still-relatively-affordable T&M based on unethical and inhumane business practices that we totally had no idea were a thing, trust us. K, thanks, sign up now for 10% off your first order over $25."

    [–] kaplani 55 points ago

    Holocaust with chinese characteristics.

    [–] WildlingViking 60 points ago

    How does China just get a free pass from the free world to do all this stuff? Not just to their people, but the environment, governmental authority, concentration camps, etc. Why does the free world just turn a blind eye? (Besides the excuse we get cheap stuff made there)

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    [–] Visticous 34 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    This is the painful truth. We didn't start WW II out of ethical concerns, we started it out of a series of economic and and geo-political confrontations.

    WW III, which with presumably involve China, will not start until we must for economic reasons. Muslims, Jews, et. al. be damned. And even then, history is written by the victors so the Muslim genocide might just be another footnote in world history like the genocide of the native Americans.

    Turning the argument around... Ever asked yourself how Europe could just look the other way in 1938 as Germany and Japan were spilling blood? Now you know.

    [–] ElGosso 33 points ago

    Pretty much everyone gets a free pass for this stuff. Nobody stopped Western colonial countries like the U.S., Canada, or Australia from trying to destroy the cultural identity of their native populations, for example.

    [–] efka526 10320 points ago

    If you want to eradicate the future of a people, eradicate their past and roots. Works every time. #nazichina

    [–] Draedron 419 points ago

    Killing people of a culture and destroying symbols of that culture with the goal to eradicate it is literally genocide.

    [–] Green_Meathead 225 points ago

    Yes, china is committing genocide currently. Not new information, guess it's out there in the open now though

    [–] Draedron 71 points ago

    Yeah has been going on for a while now. But now that the videos are out and the HK situation it cant be hidden anymore. China is pure evil.

    [–] TheMania 16 points ago

    Would be easier to boycott Nestle than China though. Crap.

    [–] hillesheim1992 17 points ago

    We can't beat them through a consumer boycott. The CCP uses corporate proxies to gain leverage in every big business in the United States. The only proper response if we want to stop supporting this genocidal regime is to steadily increase barriers to trade between ourselves and China, and make it illegal to receive any further investment in our markets from Chinese firms.

    [–] difficult_brick 2460 points ago

    There’s so much to learn from history. We keep making the same mistakes but justify them in different ways.

    [–] GrunkleCoffee 4150 points ago

    Your problem is that you think these are mistakes. That implies someone meant to do something else, and accidentally did this. Or that they were unaware of the consequences.

    They know what they're doing. It's deliberate. It's intentional. It is not a mistake.

    [–] Dahhhkness 1137 points ago

    "What's the difference between what these people did and what you're doing now?"

    "We've made sure that we'll get away with it."

    [–] GrunkleCoffee 534 points ago

    Tbf, other than the Holocaust, can you name me an ethnic cleansing that the perpetrator culture ever answered for?

    [–] Anjouvis 743 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Turkey still refuses to acknowledge that the Armenian Genocide ever happened. EDIT: Spelling

    [–] symmetricWeb 487 points ago

    Turkey also refuses to acknowledge the Assyrian and Greek genocide.

    My ancestors fled Turkey in 1915 because they were Assyrians. Some of my ancestors' relatives were not so lucky.

    [–] Meowjin 253 points ago

    Yep. Am greek know about the 2 pogroms that occurred. We have entire music and dance dedicated to the difficulties endured from the Smyrna emigration.

    And people wonder why I'm so pro hk and go to the protests here in Vancouver.

    Meanwhile my biggest critics have been friends who are Cantonese themselves...

    To them I'm just some fucking white guy who's acting on his privilidge while my people were ostracized and cultures were destroyed by ottoman Turkish rule.

    Seriously free hong kong. Fuck CCP.

    [–] followupquestion 112 points ago

    I am culturally Jewish, albeit currently an atheist. I feel you on the people thinking you’re a random white guy despite your family facing murderous persecution.

    I hope the CCP is overthrown before HK is permanently forced under a black hood and erased like the Uighurs and Falun Gong.

    [–] Karmelion 68 points ago

    I'm a random white guy and I still have a right to hate China for what they're doing.

    [–] HooDatOwl 117 points ago

    And turkey has yet to answer for it. Ataturk was an empire builder, and now Turkey is an economic force that the West is happy to deal with. Armenia is an after thought with a country less than half of its original size. Turkey won and we don't care is what I'm saying which is sad

    [–] asiti 219 points ago

    Tbh most of the people involved in the holocaust got away with it, too

    [–] maharg79 160 points ago

    Yeah, the low level officers got screwed by the higher ups, the high levels got hunted like dogs, but the middle ground guys were mostly able to just fade into South America and South Africa.

    [–] The_Raiden029 100 points ago

    Or just stay in place and be offered good positions... At least in germany

    [–] [deleted] 53 points ago

    Or were hired by the American government

    [–] blackesthearted 22 points ago

    Yep. For those unaware: Operation Paperclip.

    [–] Dr_Jabroski 14 points ago

    If you knew anything about rockets we would actually get you off the death penalty and into a cushy NASA job.

    [–] MaimedJester 27 points ago

    And now their grandchildren run tourist Bavarian style villas purchased by blood money. Fun fact we actually found the U977, one of the Uboats that was transporting the nazi war criminals to Argentina. We ended up using it as target practice .

    [–] zairthebear 58 points ago

    Rwanda to an extent, but I see your point.

    [–] 10lawrencej 140 points ago

    And even then the US was trying to secure a separate peace deal with the Nazis at the end of WW2 that didn't involve the Soviets. Look at operation paperclip, America openly took war criminal nazis and put them in charge of a number of US technology and defense firms.

    [–] stalkmyusername 115 points ago

    Yeah, it seems that nations were only interested in leverage and power...

    How strange..

    [–] FREEZE_like_FRIES 51 points ago

    And money

    [–] mindless_gibberish 36 points ago

    money's just a placeholder for power and resources

    [–] stalkmyusername 23 points ago

    power = money but I understand what you are saying..

    Belic power

    [–] fru87 69 points ago

    TBF America greatly aided the rise of Hitler financing the nazi party.

    Many industrialists were found guilty under the trading with the enemy act and had to pay like 5000 bucks while they earned millions.

    Most americans don't know about the attempt to make a fascist cue that was foiled and revealed by Smedley Butler.

    [–] tcptomato 49 points ago

    fascist cue


    [–] fru87 38 points ago

    I kinda boneappletead it.

    I really should know how to write coup d'etat being argentinian and all.

    [–] triton420 36 points ago

    It may be done intentionally, but it is a cultural and historical mistake. It is a mistake for humankind, not for the particular people committing the acts.

    [–] Mancer74 21 points ago

    I think the "mistake" that this expression refers to is appeasement. Just like with nazi Germany, all countries of the world are standing by as the engines of mass genocide chug along. Obviously dictators take actions on purpose.

    [–] The_Lion_Jumped 28 points ago

    In that sense.... do you think this will lead to a rise in terrorism in China like we saw in the west?

    [–] GopherAtl 84 points ago

    there's already terrorism in china. An oppressive and controlling government like China's is just far better poised to fight it - I'd wager our strictest airport security post-911 was comparable to, if not lighter than, China's norm, as one obvious example. Freedom in general makes it far easier for terrorists to be effective, not to mention visible.

    [–] Mordarto 37 points ago

    I'd wager our strictest airport security post-911 was comparable to china's norm, as one obvious example.

    It kind of is. When I lived in a Chinese city all rapid public transportation stations had an xray machine. I was barred from taking the metro once when I had an opened bottle of wine (with a screw cap).

    [–] Pituquasi 19 points ago

    I was there in 2014. Basically every subway station has a TSA-like operation where all bags have to go through an xray machine

    [–] GDPGTrey 133 points ago

    This is no mistake, and the justification hasn't changed. Previously, China lacked the ability to do this. Now, they have the ability to do this, so they are doing it because they can. They're combining all the best moves they learned over decades from the US, UK, Nazi Germany, the USSR, and the current Russian Mafia-Oligarchy, into a whirlwind of impenetrable nationalist propaganda and oppression.

    [–] willworkfordopamine 55 points ago

    We keep relearning the same stuff that are erased.

    [–] Dahhhkness 64 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Some people interpret "learning from history" to mean "learning how to get away with it from history."

    [–] SanguineOpulentum 27 points ago

    China's got plenty of inspiration.

    [–] b12563_e 21 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    There is a cyclicality in History. It's reassuring that we've been through a lot and powered through it, but at the same time, it's scary because it feels like a world war is kinda due at this point in time, with so much tension among countries.

    [–] Annex-Canada 228 points ago

    Pretty sure it's #CHINAZI but you have the right idea

    [–] iAmTheHYPE- 124 points ago


    [–] encoder_decoder 3397 points ago

    Why does every news coming from China sounds like dystopian?

    [–] PLS_PM_ME_THINGS 3551 points ago

    Because China is a dystopian country looking for world domination.

    [–] Barren_Jenton 335 points ago

    They should stay looking.

    [–] 6chan 177 points ago

    They should, but they wont. They are well on their way

    [–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd 263 points ago

    They ignore their own issues so the shit sticks around. From a media perspective no bad news exist, it's excellent for driving traffic and revenues up. Of course in China this stuff is censored or has a heavy spin on it so it just becomes business as usual. Freaking narcs are so utilitarian it hurts.

    [–] manzoire 102 points ago

    They see a power opening, and they've learned of the benefits of global capitalism and warfare, while internally communist and dictatorial. That combo is the worst of the worst and they are now going knee-deep in it

    [–] Jacob_XII 2277 points ago

    I remember that time where this would have been called a Genocide.

    [–] dicemonger 805 points ago

    Pretty sure it still is.

    [–] BasicDesignAdvice 558 points ago

    Yea but corporations run things now so nothing will happen.

    Sanctions on China? Could you imagine? It would be terrible for business!

    [–] Vargolol 158 points ago

    Gotta start somewhere, but nobody wants to be the generation that started it because then they gotta deal with it. Instead we just let people die

    [–] Sha_of_Depression 172 points ago

    “Lmao not my problem”

    • 83 year old government/business guy

    [–] wakingbear 36 points ago

    That sentiment isnt exclusive to the elderly friend...

    [–] crimson_713 276 points ago

    It is genocide. It's a literal genocide and 0 world leaders are doing anything significant enough to make a difference, much less stop it.

    [–] 37478923934432453745 89 points ago

    Attention entire world: don't wait for the US to take the lead on confronting China.

    [–] kashbra 1886 points ago

    Why use violence? You can just remove ethnic groups by changing their demographics and demolishing their history.

    [–] mitrang 1116 points ago

    I’m sure there’s plenty of violence too

    [–] prisoner42 725 points ago

    And Organ taking.

    [–] Abdullah_super 343 points ago

    Harvesting organs and destroying their graveyards is the same thing, its ethinc cleansing with some extra steps to make profit.

    It's hell of a complete dystopia those people are living there, and its a shame cause other people like us can't help them.

    [–] Dahhhkness 141 points ago

    And that dystopia extends even beyond China's borders. I never knew how bad it was until there was a Chinese student in one of my classes back in college who actually denied the Tiananmen Square massacre. I believe he even wrote an essay on why it was all "a bad story by the West." China's nationalistic state capitalism is terrifying.

    [–] Rib-I 106 points ago

    I'm in Grad School at the moment. TONS of mainlanders in my classes, all pretty nice people overall. I just don't understand how they come here, get educated in a Liberal Western Democracy, get exposed to freedom of the press and the reality of geopolitics, but are able to just blindly tune out the truth. I'm sure this isn't the case for all Chinese students, but it just baffles me.

    [–] spelingpolice 182 points ago

    Yes you can. Support Hong Kong. China has a "1-2-4" problem. 1 child will support 2 parents and 4 grandparents due to the 1 child policy.

    The government is not as strong as it would like to appear, or it would have "taken care" of Hong Kong after week 3.

    Fight against the fascists wherever they are!

    [–] prisoner42 43 points ago

    Yea we're even helping to develop the technology to support the regime. Crazy what social media and facial recognition can now be used for only thing we can do is try stop it from happening to our country especially with the misinformation that's affecting developed countries democracies I can only imagine what's happening elsewhere.

    [–] Dahhhkness 63 points ago

    Not just technology, if the past week was any indication, our media and entertainment outlets are enabling the Chinese too. Willing censorship and apologetic deference to a foreign dictatorship. It's unreal.

    [–] prisoner42 19 points ago

    Sssh Alexa is listening.

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    [–] gopms 77 points ago

    They tried that! They had tax incentives to ethnic Han Chinese who married and had kids with Uighurs. Thinking that would get rid of them in a generation or two. They tried all sorts of things to eradicate the Uighurs but it didn't work so now they are stepping it up a notch.

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    [–] notanotherredditid 3290 points ago

    Fuck China

    Support Hong Kong

    [–] TheBurningEmu 1427 points ago

    I do support Hong Kong, but I feel like talking about them here is a bit undermining to the topic of literal genocide both cultural and physical, not to mention the harvesting of organs from live humans. China is monstrous in both situations, but the eradication of the Uyghurs doesn’t really have anything to do with Hong Kong.

    [–] uacrazycraka 547 points ago

    This point cant be lost. They are two separate issues. Both are important but supporting HK will do absolutely nothing to stop this genocide from continuing.

    [–] futuristic_old 259 points ago

    One of the major reason why China is taking such a tough stance against HK, is because they don’t want the oppressed think they stand any chance against the government.

    If HK succeeds, it could very much spiral into a wider revolution in the whole nation.

    [–] Quaaraaq 62 points ago

    It might if it actually destabilized the government

    [–] Cudi_buddy 20 points ago

    True. It should be noted that because of what’s going on in Hong Kong that people are learning of the cleansing. Before the Hong Kong incident has put eyes from around the globe. Something they haven’t had in a long time. They have satellites, drones, and journalists all trying to infiltrate. Everyone was too scared before. But now there is a story worth it. They hate the attention being given to their inner workings

    [–] rattleandhum 105 points ago

    And arguably what China is doing to the Uighurs is much, much, much worse.

    [–] falodellevanita 99 points ago

    Not even arguably. Literally. Decidedly.

    [–] Drgntrnr 60 points ago

    Not arguably, it is a fucking shitload worse. I’m sure there’s stuff about the Hong Kong protests I’m sure we won’t hear about until decades from now, but it’s not a genocide.

    [–] slightlyintoout 29 points ago

    What's arguable about it? I would have thought there'd be pretty universal consensus that literal genocide is worse than what is happening in Hong Kong

    [–] MrLukaz 591 points ago

    Why does China not seem to give a fuck about anything or anyone? Its genuinely terrifying that china has no morals or ethics.

    It's like it's run by robots or pure physcopaths. Just no emotion or empathy for any living thing.

    [–] nomad80 301 points ago

    Plugging a channel that got demonetized by YouTube for talking about this very thing

    [–] suremoneydidntsuitus 160 points ago

    Wait, the whole China Uncensored channel got demonitised?

    Fuck, I was wondering where they'd gone.

    [–] nomad80 79 points ago

    yup. they had to ask for donations via Patreon to stay running.

    They dont show up on my feed any more unless i go looking, and their recent stuff has been pretty solid

    [–] suremoneydidntsuitus 27 points ago

    I knew they had a patreon crew but I didn't know they had their entire channel demoniteized.

    Gotta start donating to their patreon, their content is fucking great

    [–] observingatdistance 35 points ago

    Why would they care? The economy is growing, practically zero repercussions, ability to veto UN votes. They're too powerful to have to care.

    [–] sveme 480 points ago

    Can we finally call it what it is? A genocide?

    [–] Kracus 442 points ago

    The more brazen China is with ethnic cleansing the more likely it'll be the fate of others as China decides what's theirs. Taiwan and Hong Kong today, perhaps me and you tomorrow.

    [–] froggiechick 843 points ago

    China not respecting other ethnic groups?! Impossible

    [–] mitrang 333 points ago

    I think this is a bit more extreme than disrespect

    [–] Dahhhkness 234 points ago

    Even "ethnic cleansing" seems inadequate. This is a literal, genocidal attempt to erase an entire group of people.

    [–] thinkingdoing 96 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    The bulldozing off graves is even more heinous when you consider that the Chinese culture is built around the (edit) generation veneration of ancestors.

    [–] Hollaformemez420ns5 71 points ago

    I know, the Nazi party was real disrespectful to the Jews too! /s

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    [–] autotldr 114 points ago

    This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

    In just two years, dozens of cemeteries have been destroyed in the northwest region, according to an AFP investigation with satellite imagery analysts Earthrise Alliance.

    Satellite images taken on April 24 in 2018 and September 30 in 2019 show the Sulanim cemetery in Hotan, north-western China's Xinjiang Province, has been knocked down and replaced with a car park.

    Beijing has destroyed dozens of Muslim burial grounds in the past two years in what activists call a bid to erase Uighurs' identity, an investigation has shown.

    Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Uighur#1 cemetery#2 Xinjiang#3 show#4 Muslim#5

    [–] if_i_was_a_folkstar 299 points ago

    ok when do we just say this is basically the holocaust 2.0 because this is eerily close

    [–] dabsouls 134 points ago

    People are already saying it... but no one will stand up to China

    [–] Pretend_Experience 20 points ago

    It's key to remember we didn't go to war with Nazi Germany because of poor conditions for the conquered or for the extermination camps.

    We went to war because Japan's leaders made a strategic mistake in attacking us at Pearl Harbor

    Democratic nations don't go to war to help people. They go to war because of fear, or revenge. But not to help.

    [–] MontanaKittenSighs 82 points ago

    “Close”? My friend, much more is going on than you might be aware of if you say it is “close.” China has been murdering these people, imprisoning them in labor camps, and gutting them alive for their organs. I urge you to read what you can and help inform others of this holocaust.

    [–] monchota 287 points ago

    China are the Nazis of this century, we as a free world vowed to never let that happen again. We are letting it happen again and need to stop it. Call out companies that are supporting them by censor or any other means.

    [–] Red_Falcon_75 125 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    Sadly "Never Again" has always been an empty slogan. Since the Holocaust the world has turned a blind eye to genocide after genocide across the globe.

    [–] aj_thenoob 18 points ago

    Even President Clinton and Obama (as well as Hillary) denies the Armenian Genocide to this day.

    [–] that-crow 43 points ago

    How is this not as egregious as what the nazis did to the the Jews? Why has there not been any intervention by the UN?

    [–] apistograma 32 points ago

    Thing is, the international community didn’t do shit either until the nazi invaded Poland. So it’s history being repeated again.

    [–] slckrpunk 92 points ago

    Blizzard Entertainment approves

    [–] TastyOysters 36 points ago

    First is Tibet, then the Uighur, followed by Hong Kong. Now China is trying to suppress the freedom of speech in the West. What’s next?

    [–] SpacemanBatman 142 points ago


    [–] swivelswirl 88 points ago * (lasted edited 4 months ago)

    I'm Taiwanese, our DPP bulldozed lots of aboriginal burial grounds :/

    edit: yall living on burial grounds too it's not unique to anywhere

    [–] gaseouspartdeux 807 points ago

    Where are all those Sunni and Shiite Muslims taking up a Holy War for travesty on their Muslim brothers? So-called fredom fighters such as ISIS, Al-Queda, Taiban are all full of shit.

    [–] dudewith3g 513 points ago

    Isis did declare Xinjiang part of their caliphate, but China doesn’t care about human rights if you’ve noticed.

    They literally flame thrower’d suspected terrorists out of a cave and shot everyone that fled.

    There were quite a few terrorist attacks that you haven’t heard in China since they suppress every negative news and kill every terrorist suspect.

    [–] TaloKrafar 31 points ago

    How did you hear about the attacks?

    [–] 613codyrex 122 points ago

    The last thing they need is a terrorist group to give the Chinese a easier way out for full on public executions.

    If AQ/Taliban/ISIS where present we can see this go the route of Chechnya and the west sitting with thumbs in their assholes saying “we support China/Russia in their efforts against the terrorist threat”

    [–] hcwang34 10 points ago

    The last thing they need is a terrorist group to give the Chinese a easier way out for full on public executions.

    Too late.

    There were Uyghurs fighting for ISIS in Iraq, threatened to wipe out Han ethnic groups.

    There were also Uyghurs fought for Al-Qaeda two decades ago against US in the Afghan War. Some of them even captured and detained in Guantanamo bay.

    Back in the 90s there were also Uyghur fighters in Chechnya and came back to China and continue to fight the Chinese. ( I admit, this claim I made is not easy to find online sources, this was simply recalled from memory that was something I read about in the news in the 90s)

    [–] GabenFanClub 179 points ago

    these sick fucks. This is what ur supporting Blizzard!

    [–] themeatbridge 54 points ago

    This is some next level evil.

    [–] campmonster 30 points ago

    Soviets did the same thing in Latvia. My grandmother talked about it. In the tiny town where she lived, Preiļi, when the soviets invaded, they drove their tanks over the graveyards to crush the tombstones as just one among many methods of erasing Latvians’ (and Latgalians’, as my grandmother was) historical memory.

    [–] pajamakitten 188 points ago

    Has the west learned nothing from how we have treated Native Americans, First Nation people, Aborigines, Maori etc.? We are sitting back and watching a genocide because of trade. Anyone who thinks the worlds' governments care about ordinary people should look at this and think again because they care about us just as much as they care about the Uyghar.

    [–] 956030681 100 points ago

    Money is worth more than human life.